But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids?
- Bradley Farless
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person?
- Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though.
- Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Love him when he's unicorn watching.
- Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o
- Adam Lasnik
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense.
- Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm
- Neal Jansons
This was the first I'd heard of Spaghetti Pie, but my Gramma used to make something very similiar that she called Chili Pie. Same concept and delicious. I wonder if they're related.
- nakachi
Well, I'm not going to make this again...unless I'm desperate and we only have the things for this. I'm unimpressed. Maybe it needs the pound of ground beef and 200 cups of cheese to make it tasty.
- Admiral Anika
The last time I had baked spaghetti, it was at a restaurant and they used whole wheat pasta, which I think added a lot of good flavor, and it looked like it had less sauce and cheese than this. It was really good and flavorful. I think that there probably are some good recipes out there. Maybe this just wasn't the right recipe.
- Katy S
I don't send my tweets into facebook. Different content for a different audience
- Duane-PreppyDude
Did it for a while - but as Twitter reposted my friendfeed and Facebook had my friendfeed already, I decided it was just too noisy in there ...
- Harald Felgner
I use selective twitter (the #fb thing) because I only want some of my tweets in facebook. As the other's have said, different audiences.
- Andy Roth
i did it for a few weeks, but it was noise for the others so i gave it up
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
I use Selective Twitter as well. Otherwise, one could end up massively spamming facebook. I think facebook also has a hard limit on how many tweets per day it's willing to take from you.
- John Wang
I had my Twitter account connected to FB but I'm planning to sever that! It's more useful to have Friend Feed and twitter connected that couple I used to keep in touch with my professional and personal hobby world.
- Marco ILLESCAS
I had a few friends drop me on FB because they felt overwhelmed and didn't understand they could hide my tweets. There are a lot of excess tweets and posts going to too many accts. It takes time to send them more selectively, but I'm trying to do it more often.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I don't import. It's too big of a mess. I don't import them into FF anymore either.
- Ben Hanten
I use the Selective Twitter option to share tweets I think might be appropriate there.
- Tom Landini
Agree... tweets just crowd the facebook news stream
- Bindu Reddy
Its more interesting than those fucking retarded Quizzes. I also hate status updates from all the apps. ><
- Logan Lindquist
Not going to import my tweets from Twitter into Facebook. I keep two separate groups on each service, and am not really interested in crossing them over at present.
- Steve Farnworth
And yes I know you can ban them, as I have been, however I said before to people its near impossible because there are a Quizzillion FB quizzes.... A word I made up in my spare time hating them.
- Logan Lindquist
I block/hide anybody who puts all their tweets into Facebook. Use Selective Twitter if you want to update both statuses.
- Otto
Unless I really like you, I hide anyone who has all of their tweets coming into FB. Drives me nuts.
- Jeff "RESPRES" Turner
It's fine to hide people or their tweets, but I don't think it's necessary to drop someone as a friend on FB just because of their feeds. It's interesting, some people use FB more like LinkedIn, with the info profile being the key feature; others prioritize the "wall" and feeds more.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I don't. Tweets are for public comments. Facebook is for my friends. I very much dislike reading the same content from people on every platform.
- Amy Anuszewski
Facebook culture demands minimal tweet noise. Use Selective Twitter or Ping.fm for specific tweets you want to share to your #fb friends. If folks want to read all of your tweets, they'll follow you on Twitter. I think this distinction in "media consumption capacity" will be a tough nut for facebook to crack. FB wants to be Twitter and FriendFeed - both are high volume media platforms....
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- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Nope, i see a whole bunch of @replys as peoples status's and it just makes less sense than their regular status updates, so i dont want to do that myself.
- Simon Wicks
Only selected tweets with the Selective Twitter.
- Jemm
For months I am publishing with this flow: Twitter --> FriendFeed --> Facebook. A single input is better than three ;)
- Nicola Junior Vitto
I love selective twitter to. Show how useless the Facebood feed is though. I have all my friendfeed and twitter activity going there and never one comment.
- Tony
from fftogo
@Nicola: Soon it will be: -> Facebook -> blackhole :P
- Jemm
Yep, I had mine linked to FB for some time now.
- Louis Trapani
I've always brought my tweets into Facebook, but it works for me because my FB and Twitter followers are two different groups. I only have a handful of twitter folks that are my FB friends as well. At the same token, there are lots of posts I put on FB that are solely for that arena.
- Naomi Williams
Nope + never will. Facebook is for ex-girlfriends, pretending to be a pirate & so forth.
- goodmachine
Would make Facebook very noisy, and that interface is not built for the firehose IMO.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Nope - I use facebook to keep in touch with familiy, colleagues and old classmates.
- Nisse
i hate it when people put their tweets into facebook. all those @replies don't make sense. use tweetdeck an decide on a per-message-basis if you want to post to twitter, facebook, or both.
- flaimo
My husband is behind me whispering. Loudly. Like seriously? My daughter just wants to eat all the food. The boy...well, he's a stomper and we're on the second floor. Sigh.
- Admiral Anika
My daughter would fit right in. Uses her playground voice in the house... at night... right before bed time.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
stevenbeelen:
The Knife (mixtape)
1. Pass This On
2. Marble House
3. Heartbeats
taken from Silent Shout (an Audio Visual Experience)
Knife Lovers, don’t miss this live set. - http://tsparks.tumblr.com/post...
Mine had J Mayo, avocado and sauce made of Worcestershire, sesame oil and Unagi sauce on it. Yum. Never tried it with avocado... it works great.
- Adrian
Mine was just cabbage & shrimp in the egg batter. I put seaweed and a little soy sauce on top.
- Admiral Anika
Hrm... It looks like Sushiyama has it. It's about 2 miles from our old apartment. I may have to head up there for dinner tonight.
- ha3rvey (big appetite)
Ilia is about to make hers. Batter and shrimp only, no vegetables for her. Maybe shredded carrots she says.
- Adrian
Go for it Ha3rvey! It's no more complicated to make than an omelet. Pretty much anything goes as long as you have cabbage, egg and flour. Lots of cabbage. A giant MOUND of cabbage. :)
- Adrian
I don't think I have any cabbage at home. Hadn't planned to buy groceries until tonight. This could easily change. :)
- ha3rvey (big appetite)
Paul was a guitar and electronics mastermind whose creations — such as multitrack recording, tape delay and the solid-body guitar that bears his name, the Gibson Les Paul — helped give rise to modern popular music, including rock ‘n’ roll. No slouch on the guitar himself, he continued playing at clubs into his 90s despite being hampered by... - http://creativesage.tumblr.com/post...
I love that Bret, Paul, and Kevin checked in. They probably are looking at their screens and asking "what do we do now?" how about ship some new features before Facebook overlords take you off to do bigger things?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I feel sorry for all you addicts. My use of it is purely social.
- Bruce Lewis
I do like FF and use it almost every day. Wouldn't it be great if FB either left it alone so we can continue to use it as "professionals," or somehow incorporate it into a more "mature" version of FB that didn't have all the annoying, time-wasting apps, games, etc. I'd much prefer a totally customizable FF "wall."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I think FFundercats HO!!!!! would have worked but I'm here anyways.
- Jimminy Fuller
Actively fighting addiction to anything on a daily basis, but I'm still a FriendFeed fan! (I'd have been here sooner but I've been staring at Phoebe Cates pics for longer than I realized.)
- Mark It's 2000-Oh-1-Oh J
Thank you Robert Scoble to be here. :) BTW is this looks interesting for FF replacement? : http://streamy.com/ ? May be... I'll try it to see. :)
- Claude LaFrenière
Why should I? Whats in it for me? You doing some sort of survey of people to send out the police to do a "Safety Check" on when the site is shutdown?
- CW™
here. anecdote: a friend of mine just signed up for FF this evening. apparently the FriendFeed hype of the last 24 hours pushed him over the top. leaves me wondering whether FF has actually gained users today?it would be a crafty way of marketing the service. I'll wake up tomorrow to discover that there was a problem with the paperwork and the FriendFeed team have had a change of heart.
- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
Count me in even though I was just starting to get hooked. I guess it's time to find a rehab and get all sobered up until the next relapse with some other new addiction. Isn't life grand?
- Usman Bashir
oh hey, look, the added an "add comment" link to the end of the comment list. Huzzah!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
++Jay. I was going to do the same thing yesterday but I didn't want to pay the money.
- David Cook
David -- this was a $9.95 session but you can get them for $7.95 and there are also 25% off coupons if you do online check-in prior to your Delta flight. That's an incentive for folks to use that service and offload kiosk use at the terminals. Very savvy marketing by the folks at GoGo and Delta combined.
- Jay Cuthrell
well, it's 12:12 a.m. and I'm perusing FF from my iPhone via BuddyFeed before turning in. so yeah, I guess I count. "Here!" (raises hand)
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
I recommend FF to some of my clients, and there are some companies and nonprofits with presences here—not like Twitter, but I'll be curious how that will be affected when FB takes over more. Most have FB fan pages, groups and/or causes, too.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Yeah, me too. I just saw the request to have a comment link at the bottom of the comments from one of your friends just yesterday and here it is. I'd say they are listening. Thanks FF.
- Keith Rowland
превед кетаец! давай сегодня сделаем тебя счастливым!
- Махатма Бугоганди
И так чятег, пока Скобл не поговорит с нами представителями СовиетФрендфидика, все мои записи теперь можно читать в этом тредике. Пользуясь случае передаю Парню Бухайту и его команде большой привет, в связи с тем что [He can has sleep naw].
- ideali
точно! поэт, пародист, переводчик. известный блоггер.
- Махатма Бугоганди
я вчера был в издательстве, с меня сведения об авторе просят. давайте, говорят, напишем, где учился, что генеральный директор. и что известный блоггер.
- Махатма Бугоганди
а можно получить профессию известного блоггера? какие экзамены сдавать надо? какую специализацию лучше выбрать - микроблоггинг или аудиоподкастинг?
- Махатма Бугоганди
Один чувак пришол в чятег и говорит я известный блоггер кто тут тру на первый второй рассчитайсь. А ему говорят чувак у тебя сертификат есть что ты известный блоггер? Вот иди Зайке экзамен сдай потом приходи. А Зайка стоит такой с топором и улыбается. Щас думает счастливым его сделаю.
- Махатма Бугоганди
Я потерял интерес в данный момент. Я буду скрывать, как и любой другой. Это хромой, что вы захватили этот. Пивные правила. Спокойной ночи. :-)
- Matthew Horton
More than a friend of FriendFeed, was starting to use it as a full lifestreaming platform and loved it. It's made a whole lot of other sites make sense.
- achean
Hi, I'm Bette... I don't know if I'm an addict, but I can't stay away... I keep checking, just to see if something's new... and I cry if I get no responses to a post. Is that addictive behavior? :D
- Bette Cooper
Yup, I have blocked all the impersonators now. You will still see them, but I don't see them and they no longer can comment on any of my items.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer As far as I can see you have blocked not only the impersonators (who renamed themselves back the moment they found out you have a problem with this) but most of the folks who chatted there.
- Махатма Бугоганди
@meatreach yes, see next thread. Scobble becomes anti-Russian.
- Never Impersonate You
Maxatma: well, that's just too bad. I speak English. Sorry. People who don't speak English really don't have any business commenting on one of my items, except in rare cases.
- Robert Scoble
Why you, Robert Scoble, don't block users from Spain or Italy? China or arabic countries? Those users that comments on non-English languages?
- Never Impersonate You
@Robert, in fact they do speak English. But they also do make fun of Friendfeed and everything that's going on there. You can block them or take part in this fun. ;)
- Махатма Бугоганди
I prefer FF over twitter and facebook, but all my friends are on twitter and/or facebook. Maybe facebook will get it right this time now that it has acquired FF. If they simplify it a bit more without removing functionality. Then I would spend a bit more time on FB. Lets hope all goes well with the merger. If not I'm jumping ship and going over to Google Wave. oh wait, I'm going to go with Google Wave regardless! ;-)
- Captain Jack
Bu arada Russian friends Turkiye'ye selamlar gonderiyor.
- ideali
@scobleizer i can speak english and i beg you to remove bann from all russian friendfeeders, because we are all from it-community, working in internet companies and we came with peace, you asked for feedback from friendfeed addicts — we show you how really it is being frf addicts, we change names, we chat, we making things that are not serious. Why so serious? Unlock people, they are not bots, they just playing the game of real addicts and have fun. Common.
- ideali
shaun: I started this post to demonstrate that a lot of us are still here and aren't likely to leave. At least not quickly. So, life goes on after FriendFeed gets acquired by Facebook. Point proved.
- Robert Scoble
Robert He says ; Our Russian friends say to hello to Turkey
- Osman Üngür
ideali: have them send email to scobleizer@gmail.com and I'll unblock anyone who says they weren't impersonating me.
- Robert Scoble
Hector: good morning! I need coffee.
- Robert Scoble
@robert yes they (we will) stay here, I think tat the migration process will take time and after reading @Paul Bucheit, I think that what we all are trying to get even if we don't say it explicitly is to preserve a kind of intimacy (beeing a part of the Huge faceBook community) don't mean that FF community will preserve their intimacy, why should a community be a plan one, (let imagine a community as a set of sub-community) that all.
- abdellah
Wow!! So many likes and comments; is it a record Rob?
- میر «عرفان» موسوی
@scobleizer thank you, for understanding. be cool, guys we just want have fun here a little. Take care.
- ideali
@Robert RE "I have enough noise in my life. I don't need to have more" - isn't it a lot of noise having 26K subscriptions and 46K subscribers on your frf account? I'm kind of surprised - you create a community that large around yourself, yet when you see a new and unusual activity you just block it right away.
- Махатма Бугоганди
@Robert, patience? Who's talking about patience? It's about curiosity, not patience. When something strange and unusual happens around you, you can either try to stop it or try to see what it can develop into. You choose to stop - and it stopped. Well, not stopped - just moved to some other place. And do you really know what it was and what it was about to bring you?
- Махатма Бугоганди
I'm here all the way from South Africa! I dig this service and I'm not quite ready to give it up. Regardless of the news about the acquisition, this remains an awesome service.
- Paul Jacobson
I'm new to ff but find more valuable information here than anywhere else!
- Janet Crance
I don't know how I rate my addiction relative to others, but I shared Hitler's reaction upon hearing the acquisition news (despite happiness for Paul and Bret)
- Chris Duffy
I'm sure this is part of Scoble's plot to poll all the people who really read his posts, and unfollow the rest. So I raise my hand.
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Just a wannabe. Not an addict (yet).
- Carole Hicks
It might also be a way for me to filter down my "following" count (diff (my followers, scoble)) are the only people I really need to follow. Those that scoble follows, I can safely unfollow and use Scoble as my social media filter :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
pardon the arrogance but it really sucks this great forum of sharing will turn into a myspace humdrum. Now I have to find another SM where first adopters and well informed techies won't haft to compete with general "noise"
- earl wallace
Well, here's a comment I can later delete and rob the owner of 1500!
- Matthew DeVries
I just mention the 1500 mark since it was such an iconic query to see... that and the 500 Likes club of FF posts. It's pretty exclusive stuff... but it's also sobering to note that the subject matter required to get to these levels isn't always a uniform mix of cares/concerns.
- Jay Cuthrell
When I heard the FaceBook news, I tried to quit FriendFeed and I couldn't... I'M HOOKED
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
i clicked the "1488 more comments" and my computer nearly exploded. and yes, i am using an amiga 500.
- jack
Now that I have instructions (thanks LouisGray) and figured out my Bookmarklet! I am LOVING the ease of use! addict - not quite...
- Robyn Hawk
Actually, I lied. I am not a die-hard friendfeed fan. I desperately want to be but have just not been able to get into a good "feeding" rhythm. Maybe I need to add some more friends
- Anant Gairola
I don't need to be addict. I'm just here, everyday, absorbing so many geeky info :D There's no place like FF
- Lysender
I'm still with ya, Robert. Whatever FB paid for FF, it wasn't enough!
- Donald C. Lindsay
New here, but learning. Tips for best use?
- Barbara Langham
@bdlangam From my perspective the #1 tip in this category is: Explore and define "best use" for yourself. Despite potential "finishing" impression of some productive consolidations in this collective-collaborative cognition space, the emergent #cognosphere is still WAY too nascent to assert anything other than initial impressions. March to the beat of your own drum; build your own...
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- michael silverton
yeah sorry, late. was at Shambhala Music Festival, I know tardy, sorry...
- sofarsoShawn
I'm getting hooked, still figuring it all out
- Michele McGraw
I think I do. Not enough contacts to make a impression.
- Michael Schlag
For me it's when i feel they are worthy of sharing personal information. Not every friend is worthy. Fighting cancer since 96 has taught me that most people don't want to know what's truly going on in your life. "How are you?" is just a salutation
- Duane-PreppyDude
I agree with Duane-PreppyDude—when someone is worthy of sharing personal information and shows they are trustworthy. I applaud your courage, Michael, and wish you only the best. I will add that, although you may have an officially diagnosed life-threatening illness, none of us is immune from accidents, future illness, aging or death. If someone is truly your friend, and he/she has...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
If you have a radio show like Don Imus, you'd mention it in every show at least every 15 minutes.
- Morton Fox
It's impossible to tell how people are going to react. Some avoid the subject whenever it comes up. I can understand this and I don't press the issue. Some seem to be put off by the fact that I haven't locked myself in my room cursing the world (I might be exaggerating a bit here). And I'm talking about family and friends here. I respect their feelings, though, and I know it can be a bit awkward. It will be interesting to see how future friends react.
- Michael McKean
I'm bad at this. I have friends I've known for 10 yrs+ and they don't know what my health issues are. But the newer ones...I think I just like to get it out of the way. The last time I became real ill (5-6 yrs ago), I lost a few friends. I even managed to lose my best friend. It broke my heart and I'm still f-ed over it. But people should see you and not the illness. Good luck!
- Gabrielle V
I'd tell them right away, in the course of getting-to-know-you conversation. That way you'll know from their reaction whether they'll end up being a great friend.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I'd like to get it over as soon as possible, but I kinda feel like I'm playing the sympathy card. Anyway, it certainly beats becoming attached to someone only to be crushed later on.
- Michael McKean
Yes, Derrick! That's *exactly* what it's like. I kinda want to have a party to commemorate my new shower head. Oh and it matches the sink fixtures, thankyouverymuch. If we didn't have this water conservation thing going on, I'd hop back in there right now.
- Admiral Anika
Oh, wait...I took a shower after run/walking around the Rose Bowl, but just remembered I have to do my EA Sports Active tonight, too. There's another shower in my near future. YAY!
- Admiral Anika
.LOLz! it's the simple things in life that make it worth living...
- .LAG liked that
Me and the roomie were laughing because we too were finding excuses to take showers.
- Derrick
People can congratulate the FriendFeed guys as much as they want but this site would be NOTHING without us. And I don't mean Scoble and his tag-alongs. I'm talking about the core group of users who have truly made FriendFeed what it is today. Technology without users is dead.
I dunno, the site has had a bunch of different sets of "core users" over the years. I thought it was useful before the current crop showed up.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Ok lets go all high school in our reactions here.......
- Rasmus Lauridsen
So the FF snobs can't play with the FB snobs? Is that how it works?
- Bette Cooper
Being a snob about Facebook is like being a snob about processed cheese slices. You can try it but you're going to look damned foolish.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Good grief. There's nothing here that didn't exist in 1993 via IRC and Usenet. Get over yourselves and go make the next Friendfeed if you're all hot and bothered about it.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I have no doubt plenty will say the same about FriendFeed...
- Bette Cooper
other way round - we wouldnt be here if it wasnt for the FF guys
- Jamie
Amen. They said nothing about users in their announcements.
- Dave Winer
Arrington's inteview with the FB and FF guys suggests they want the engineers not the service itself
- Mark
"There's nothing here that didn't exist in 1993 via IRC and Usenet".... Actually you're wrong. IRC and Usenet, like successors Facebook and Twitter were/are all about conversations with ocasional nuggets of information. Friendfeed was all about nuggets of information with eventual conversations around them.
- Mario Valente
"Bret and the gang owe it all to us and we have now been paid in full." This would be true, Akiva if Facebook had bought friendfeed for the content...instead they bought it for the talent. I think this could have happened regardless of community involvement, which is why it's an even deeper betrayal.
- Alex Scoble
Why is it a betrayal? Friendfeed is a BUSINESS....
- Rob Sellen :o)
If you don't understand how screwing over your customers is the worst betrayal a business can do, then you shouldn't be in business.
- Alex Scoble
Holy crap! Friendfeed is a business! Wow, I comLETELY forgot!
- Jim Iz Not on Ur List
Alex, what have you bought from friendfeed so far? I guess it all depends on who you think the customer is.
- Richard Lawler
I bought the use of the service and I paid for it with my time, my words and my word of mouth advertising.
- Alex Scoble
I'm looking for Alex Scoble's time, words and word of mouth advertising on the balance sheet, gimme a sec.
- Richard Lawler
I don't know, Akiva. I've had a lot of good experiences here. Among them was getting to know Robert Scoble and his tag-alongs. I feel like they won me as a user with the technology and community they gave me. It's their party. They get to say when it's over.
- Bruce Lewis
really? REALLY? And who is the core group of user to which they depend on so much?
- Patrick Allmond
word Akiva. That post up there, that could me posting it. That how much it rings true with me.
- vijay
That's a direct insult to: (1) everyone who is not part of "us" [whoever your 'us' points to; not me] (2) the brilliant engineering of the FF team [because if it wasn't for your 'us', FB would not have come to them with $50 million].
- Mohamed J
without the team and the VC there would be no "us"
- Thomas Power
If you want to know who the core group of users are, just check out ffholic. And if the FF team is insulted, then they should've better prepared themselves for the backlash that they had to know was coming.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The wealth of social media is in the user community. Your friends are your personal credentials and so it goes... all the way up the line.
- Fossil Huntress
Without the users friendfeed is nothing but lines of code.Actually, without anyone to use it, it would be useless code. Sure VC invested in it, but so did we. And the ff team and VC win and the rest of the investors (us) lose.
- April Russo (app103)
Akiva it's not the developers you are insulting it's all of us "Scoblefollowers" We are part of this community but you decided to swing the high school clique bat and discount us all as nothings. Thank you, that shows your great community spirit... I guess you didn't get what Bette meant by FF snobs.. I'll look at it as a "knee jerk" reaction since I normally like you and your posts.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Look, I see where people are coming from here, but if "community" is gonna be every fifth word, maybe we should work harder not to tear ourselves apart just because some business issues happen. Being worried about the possible changes is understandable. I don't feel "betrayed", I am just worried. But playing clique games is a bad idea, creating "us vs. them" mentality is a bad idea, and...
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- Neal Jansons
Rasmus, you're not getting the actual sentiment here. The Scoble tag-a-longs are people who followed Scoble from Twitter to FriendFeed and then ended up contributing nothing to the community here other than dumping their Twitter streams and occasionally replying to Scoble's posts. Robert's unique in that he can encourage 20,000 people to join a service but just because they tagged along...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
Neal, I don't see where I've played clique games. As I pointed out above, just go to ffholic.com and look at the 20 most active users. THOSE people are the driving forces behind FriendFeed community. Do you see my name in that list? Nope. I'm not sure what you think my motive is to promote an us vs. them mentality when I am neither part of the 'us' nor part of the 'them'.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thnx, Jason, I try. I just think that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy to say "OMG FB bought FF, it's gonna destroy the community!" and then go around doing everything we can to polarize ourselves. Save the polarity and extreme positions for blog posts. We need to keep our behavior up to the standard that has made this such an awesome place to be, and if the conditions become untenable,...
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- Neal Jansons
Oh, Akiva, I am not pointing the finger at you at all! The tone is the issue here...upset is turning into angry too much. I am not saying you made a cliquey statement, but people went there. You made a statement about content and value, no us and them. The us and them crap seems to just happen. What I am urging ALL of us (including me) is to be careful and live up to the standards that have made FF great, even if FF goes bye-bye.
- Neal Jansons
Akiva - I am a Scoble "tag-along" as you derisively labelled me/us, so I too resent your holier than thou tone and attitude
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, you need to read through the comments.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Brian...are you here responding and posting? Then you are not who was being referred to. The tag-alongs are those who just go to add numbers and then don't interact at all. The very fact that you saw the comment excludes you from who the comment is about.
- Neal Jansons
Neal, ah, got you. With how tense things are around here right now, it's terribly easy to read the negative into everything.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And for the record, I don't buy into FFholic too much. Follower count is just not a good metric for judging a community. A lot of people I consider "core group" here are not in the top 20.
- Neal Jansons
Neal, true, which is why I referred specifically to the top 20 most active users and not the most popular.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Now thats one post on FF which I've really really really liked...
- Rohit
Akiva...I know, that is exactly why I am urging all of us to be careful. I am trying to willfully ignore things that seem provocative.
- Neal Jansons
Funny, i woulda thought that "core groups" (and there appear to be several claiming the mantle) kinda sorta goes completely against the type of shared community ethos I thought this place was all about.
- Thom Kennon
Thom...core groups are a natural sociological phenomena. They are unavoidable, due to loci of interaction and convergent socialization. I participate in no ethos that pretends like some hippie ideal is going to subvert basic rules of interaction. In any case where there is a community of sufficient size, those who participate more become the core group. Only way not to have one is to have no community or no participation.
- Neal Jansons
I would like to add that just by participating, you're already 'in' on FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I would agree w/ Thom. This week I am more active then Akiva, but I think we are equal as we both are active even though we are in different circles. Now does this make me part of a "core" anything- who knows. Akiva is right, it is the active users that make this happen.
- Joe
Deakins, contributing is one thing; caring about how many people see your contribution is another.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Neal - yes, totally get the sociological phenomena. I'm talking about how people elevate themselves in comparative self-worth by striving to exclude others not in their "core group". As natural as it may be, it is uncool when waved as a flag in defense of being wronged. You see - it's ironic in this case as some of the core group people are kvetching they got left out in the deal. There is, alas, always a more core core group.
- Thom Kennon
Well it goes both ways. They saw a need for such a site, they created it. We liked it as it suited our tastes. They deserve the credit because they made it, early adopters like you encouraged them keep going. Why say stuff like, "Technology without users is dead"??
- | Balu |
Kibbutz privatization is a trending topic.
- Eric Logan
Okay Moskovitz, you do know the correct way to this. Good day.
- Joe
That was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, Deakins. I just have other things to do right now. I'll return to this thread later.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Ahh, I see what you are saying, Thom. I don't subscribe to that attitude...that isn't a core group as I mean it, that is a clique. I got familiarized with the notion of a "core group" in my activist days, where the sociological aspect was focused on making sure people who were NOT core group got their ideas included and didn't feel excluded. It's a organizational psych. issue...not...
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- Neal Jansons
Look Akiva if you don't have enough courtesy to use my first name then I guess new folks like me are not entitled to respect from FF users like yourself.
- Joe
WTF, Deakins? This isn't because anyone thinks they are better than you, he is just responding to usernames, most likely because he is using a client, not the web interface (just like me). All I see is usernames. You are willfully choosing to take offense. Can you keep your narcissistic injury under control? If not, maybe you aren't in the best place emotionally to have a civil discussion and should withdraw.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
If you want people to call you by your first name, include it in your username so people using clients will see it.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
@Akiva Moskovitz I never said users are not necessary. I said, "early adopters like you encouraged them to keep going" Yes you had a role so did many others, who build friendfeed into what it is today. What makes friendfeed special is the underlying code. That's what made you, me and many others stay. The groups, the search, the real-time thingy.. People, the users, make something good, perfect.
- | Balu |
Neal: He already knows my first name and if you look in the comments above you will see that I mentioned it again. So thanks for your tip. :) You have a great day Neal.
- Joe
I don't happen to think it is the underlying code that makes it special. It would be just as special to me if it were the same conversations with the same people on phpbb forum.
- April Russo (app103)
April, on phpbb you wouldn't find the interesting people through all the noise. The precise workings of Like/Hide on FF are important.
- Bruce Lewis
I don't know about that. Well, maybe not phpbb. More like SMF. At least there is a "permanently ignore" mod available that works well as a "hide"" and then there is ones for "ignore user" and ratings, and all kinds of other stuff. And I wouldn't miss anything at all with the unread items page, something Friendfeed lacks. And a slight modification to one of my apps would give me ability to search right from my taskbar.
- April Russo (app103)
So, last season I felt sympathy for Bill and his struggle with his identity. This year he feels whiney, petulant and ineffectual. Even when he clocked his maker in the head with the plasma screen - it felt a little flat. In fact, I'm far more intrigued with what happens around the Bill/Sookie relationship than what occurs between them. #trueblood
The way handled telling Sookie last night was pretty weak. He only gets problems by dragging it out, but vampires need their angst.
- RAPatton
It's definitely time for more Eric. His interaction with Bill is much like a cat with a mouse, which makes him even more delicious. And I think it would be be fun to see how Eric's presence adds tension to the Sookie/Bill lovefest.
- Cheryl
I find the TV version of Sookie & Bill underwhelming compared to the book versions
- Duane-PreppyDude
As much as I dislike the books (the writing, not the concept), I have to agree. Book Sookie feels smarter, less "damsel in distress." Their relationship quibbles felt viable (at least they did up to Book Three which is when I couldn't take it anymore).
- Cheryl
I'm getting the Sunday ticket for the bar this year, adding more TVs, doing three fantasy leagues, and I have season tickets to the Chiefs. This will be a big football year.
- Ben Hanten
I hate that I pay so much for premium NFL and am still subject to blackouts. Grrrr
- Bwana ☠
Only wish it was teams that I actually care about.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Killed 2k or so Twitter followees today - my own numbers are dropping like a rock, yet I feel much better. Not vibing on the 'numbers as proxxy for self confidence' thing and much prefer quality conversation. So, will be doing what I can to migrate my thought patterns to FriendFeed over the next few weeks. Anything I should know?
What exactly are you looking for? Your video content can be shared if your employer allows it. There's the ability to create list depending on who you need to speak/listen to. The groups are interesting. I'd suggest you'd get into some of the politics groups to see what the person on the street is saying.
- Admiral Anika
It's better over here, Dan, especially if you're looking for a discussion.
- Alan Mairson
from iPhone
It's better here, and you can always cross-post it back to twitter.
- Keith Barrett
One last thing I'd suggest, is really looking at your Twitter follows. Some people have opened accounts and just dumped them. That's fine, but if you've had meaningful conversations with them, then sub to them here. If they offer something, sub to them here. Otherwise, don't bother. Or put them in a Twitter or Dumpers list like I do.
- Admiral Anika
Well, I've been on and kept an eye on FriendFeed since the beginning. More than anything, I'd like to pick up on and adapt to the various communities.
- Dan Patterson
Yeah, and meaningful discussions are key - Twitter has become so infested with spam and self-promotion that for conversation and connecting it's become fairly useless.
- Dan Patterson
If you do a simple search for topics that appeal to you above, you'll find worthwhile people. If you go in to 'browse groups' you'll find more communities.
- Admiral Anika
Oh, oh, the mainstream is coming! (Dan works for ABC News).
- Robert Scoble
Dan and I just subscribed to each other. Now to hit that "FriendFeed Beginners" link myself... (EDIT: Just joined that group, too...)
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't get why some folks plug in things to FriendFeed but then never comment on their own feed items or those of others. Did they just forget they set up a FriendFeed account?
Amen! I know several people like that. They feed in their tweets, their facebook, their whatever but I often see the item here 1st or it is easier to comment/discuss here so I do. Then I never get a response. If you aren't going to (generally) engage here then don't feed it in. And do not make me figure out where I'm *supposed* to comment. Because I will just stop trying to engage with you since you don't intend to engage.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Eh. People come and try it out, decide it's not for them. That's okay.
- D0r0th34
I suppose I should just unfollow those folks, but some of them are feeding in really good stuff, so I guess it does give me an easy way to keep tabs on what some people are thinking about lately.
- Stephen Francoeur
Besides - we can have a conversation about their stuff even if they're not here...
- Cameron Neylon
When I first set up an FF account, I didn't really get it. I thought it was just some kind of alternate aggregator. Then I checked back weeks later when someone mentioned it and was shocked and disturbed to find comments on my entries.
- s t e v e
i often forget to check on *my* friendfeed stuff (the stuff I'm feeding in here) for comments, etc, so that could also be what happens
- ~Courtney F.
A couple of my friends 'tried it out' and then never came back. I don't necc want to unfollow them though in case they decide to actually come back... OR DO I?
- JSNFLMNG
Also- I was once asked why I comment on my own twitter feed once.. of course the answer is that I am more of a ffeep than a tweep, but maybe some people with ff accounts think the same way about not commenting on their own stuff? No accounting for not commenting on others stuff though.
- JSNFLMNG
I have a name for these people: "people who I might have subscribed to at one point" :)
- Brett Kelly
I don't mind that much anymore. I see it as a way to get people's total life stream in the medium of my choice (FriendFeed). That way, rather than using imaginary friends, when I comment, it is seen by others and can be responded to. I follow Andy Ihnatko here because I get all of his stuff, but he has never commented etc. I still find having him piped in here valuable, While no...
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- Johnny Worthington
Yes, I remember sometime last year, a lot of peeps on Twitter set up FF accounts, but never used the service.
- phil baumann
In the beginning FF didn't even have any commenting. It was the place where people could centralize and aggregate all their feeds/services. Maybe some people use FF just for that.
- Jemm
I tend to "live" on Twitter and am forced by others to check Facebook frequently, so sometimes forget to come over here. I remember about once a week, which is a good thing. Once in a while Friendfeed sends me an email to say people have actually commented on my stuff, which is a nice courtesy. OTOH that is exactly how I treat Plaxo. I feed a pile of content in, connect with people who want to connect, but never actually go in their on my own.
- Connie Crosby
FF needs to default to enabling email notifications on comments to your feeds. Sure, many might turn it off right away, but it would serve to point out to people that hey, others are commenting on what you're doing.
- Otto
Samuel, can you even get a feed for comments on your posts? That seems like a no-brainer. I know Jessamyn was looking for that, because she isn't looking for another online discussion community (since she's already the den mother for a huge one) but would like to know when people comment on her stuff.
- s t e v e
You can set up notification--look under settings
- Abigail
yes just set it up and never played with it. Honestly I find it frustrating for newbies. Giving it a try though and I think I see how powerful it is
- cheapsuits
I have emails to comments on my own posts, and I get IM notifications for updates to posts I have commented on. Is there any way to get emails for other people's posts that I have commented on? (for when I am not online)
- JSNFLMNG
Speaking as a frequent lurker, sometimes poster, & a very rare commenter, when I first set-up FF, I checked it constantly & commented sometimes. However, I found it to be a bit of time-suck, & eventually dropped off the grid. I now monitor it off of my iGoogle page. I may try becoming more involved at some point, but I'm trying to find the balance between monitoring my online networks & RL.
- Amanda
well like many tools people use them for different purposes - I'm not at all surprised that people use FF for a different purpose than you seem to think it serves. i.e. it isn't just about leaving comments it can also be about consolidating lots of your own personal feeds (for yourself as well as for others) and/or about reading lots of other people's consolidated feeds. Across the whole web only a minority of people (a very very small minority) leave comments vs a far, far larger majority who read content
- Shannon Clark
Doesn't bother me. If their content is good, I enjoy reading it. If not, I unfollow.
- Liam Sullivan
Cranky ole me is simmering down. Maybe the caffeine is having its effect.
- Stephen Francoeur
I forgot that I did...and I'm new so still getting used to it.
- Kristina Duncan
Honestly, I set up a friendfeed account awhile ago just to have all my online activity aggregated into one place that I could then import elsewhere, like facebook, just so people could keep track of all the things I was up to outside of facebook, and friend me there if they wanted. I find that my facebook friends tend to be oblivious of online communities outside of facebook, and this...
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- valerious
@JSNFLMNG --yup, that's under settings--notifications too :)
- Abigail
I use friendfeed to search my own stuff. I do read the "best of...", "my discussions", but admittedly unless i have a lot of free time it's impossible to watch the stream in real-time basically because I dumped almost every subscription into the main feed.
- aarontay
Remember that participation on any site goes in peaks and valleys no matter what. I just came off a 4-6 week period where I was commenting very little on Friendfeed. Sometimes your worklife doesn't permit heavy engagement.
- Jill O'Neill
Doesn't bother me. I use FF as an RSS reader too so I like seeing their updates here even if they don't comment. But they should subscribe to email notifications. It would be nice to see a reply if someone has a question about a post.
- Lori Reed
Thanks Abigail ;) I don't think I've messed with those since they were improved to that extent . really amazing
- JSNFLMNG
Yeah, thanks Abigail. I never knew they had done that. I don't really use them since I'm on FF 24/7, but good to know.
- s t e v e