"According to Wikipedia, the recent Sichan earthquake measured 7.9. Because the Richter scale is logarithmic, that means that quake was over 100x stronger than ours. I never want to feel one that strong."
- edythe
i see the benefits, but also the problems behind it. (not saying one should not try!) It would also switch intentions. people do not post answers to you if you blog about something, but they will post because famous person X has shared that for example and they answered to *that* person. putting the comments to the 'original' changes the intent. so a listing like that would need to make a tree out of that.
- Nicole Simon
I think additional aggregation would be nice, but you'd open up a can of worms. For example, I often click like on the first one I see it, then may add it to my SU or other services. who get's the top spot? the one where it first hit Friendfeed which in some cases may be through twitter because they are pulled more often?
- Nicole Simon
www.friendfeedmachine.com goes some way towards alleviating this problem, with some more features due in a few days, especially around aggregation - via FriendFeedMachine
- Scott Goldie
Both :) IMO link-centric presentation is preferable, assuming of course UI and work flow related issues at the point of adding a link to FF directly are nicely resolved.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I think I'd prefer person-centric but link-centric is interesting too. I see link centric as a personalised memetracker...
- Andy Davies
+1 for person centric filtering first
- Alex Gawley
i prefer link-centric since it would clean up FF.. but thinking that rather than accumulating events like 'Shared on Google Reader' or 'bookmarked on Delicious', it should be shown as 'Likes' on the original feed. If there is some value add, like Comments or Tweets, only then, show it as an event.
- Vishy
@shakeel - i think the purpose of 'person centric' is to group all of a single person's activities as they relate to a specific URL into a single entry. As such FF doesn't do that right now.
- Alex Gawley
I prefer link-centric. it would be great to centralize the conversation. There should be a priority tree, though. Blog>Google Reader>Delicious...etc. The item with the higher priority goes first.
- Alejandro
Person-centric could be used in the user's own list of activities.
- Alejandro
Whatever you call it, I want to be able to see what the content is about. Just don't tell me Person X has bookmarked a page on Site Y. I need to know the title.
- Mike Reynolds
I think link-centric is intriguing. An organic techmeme, built directly on users' actions and transparent. Biggest concern with centralizing activity under one link is the echo-chamber effect that could result. I suspect that can be managed - e.g. the meme is set up in a separate tab, away from the flow of friends' updates.
- Hutch Carpenter
I would always vote for link-centric. If somebody else shares it...add it into the comments.
- Chris Nixon
Person-centric is probably a better user experience, but link-centric is very attractive to content producers. Especially if they can search for links to their domain.
- engtech
One thing I would *love* is if FF unrolled tinyurls, feedburner links, etc. That would be necessary for link-centric
- engtech
I like the exploration of ideas. However, I echo @HutchCarpenter's concern regarding the echo-chamber. Would my friendfeed be cluttered? Woulid I have to wade through gigantic posts such as this one where a ton of people have shared, liked, or commenting on the same link? Would I lose my current feeling of community if I was sucked into a massive conversation? Would interesting tid-bits get lost and scrolled by to fast by these compilations of linking behaviour?
- Seek Ground
I have concerns about the merging of different comment streams (in the link-centric model). The same item from different people will have different subsets of people commenting, depending on the poster's friends. Different people will see different comments depending on their friend graph, their hiding preferences, etc., thus it would be hard to maintain a coherent conversation.
- Mihai Parparita
Great idea - and it should be user-configurable all over the place. I post links to every article I write for InformationWeek in at least three places that FriendFeed picks up. As a FriendFeed producer, I should be able to configure my FriendFeed to designate which item is authoritative for duplicate links. And as a consumer I should be able to designate which source is authoritative for *others'* FriendFeeds, as well as whether to filter on a per-user or per-link basis (i.e. do I see same link from 2+ ppl)
- Mitch Wagner
To the FriendFeed folks. While you do listen to us, please also feel free to ignore us. Overall, I'm quite happy with the FF UI. I also trust that you're smarter than me and I look forward to the FFFuture.
- Mike Reynolds
I would love this!! Its a must have these days! Even I would go one more step further and say, it should combine same URL from more than one party (say person X and Y both dug same URL, why should discussion/comment/likes be different??) and combine them all!
- Jigar Mehta
cool idea, then it become a question of aggregating based on link vs. description, and it is nice to have all comments in one place. however, would it increase backend requirements that could slow ff down? i love the reliability and speed of ff now, (unlike twitter).
- Pokai
Well, in a way this will decrease the load on the system.. Imagine 100 duplicate stories being commented and liked (ff servers will get to maintain all of them and load them when user requests).. And also I, as a user will get to see more proper items on my page! (Say for example, i am not interested in a particular story which is shared by three different people in my network, I will...
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- Jigar Mehta
Well thought out and illustrated. Person-centric extends the current FF experience. Link-centric would make me feel like FF is turning into something like Digg...
- tagami
These are both great ideas. I'm not really sure whether I'd prefer the person-centric or link-centric models (maybe that should be a user preference?) but I do feel either one would help a lot with the duplication.
- Jason Wehmhoener
amen. especially with resharing going on. Hell, I wouldn't have had to write this comment twice if that were the case!
- Tim Hoeck
How about making it group-centric? Every additional person that submits the same link is added to the "likes" list... and just keep comments fragmented
- Rafael Robayna
Starting in 2010, Delta will be the first carrier to try a new seat layout. I wasn't a believer until I saw the photo of people leaning to the side to sleep, and when my concerns about cleavage-spying were mostly laid to rest. It kinda looks like the seats don't recline though, which has big pros and cons.
- Kevin Fox
I can't help it if I get checked-out... Well, maybe with this seat I can.
- Kevin Fox
Fantastic idea... Being a tall guy, it's nearly impossible for me to sleep on a plane since there's nowhere for my head to lay on... I want this now!
- Chris Reed
I can imagine though that for window-seat passengers, it might be a bit tougher to slide out of your seat during the flight with the angles. You'd be running into the person's knee/leg next to you.
- Zal
I love this. Another "how come no one thought of this before?" idea.
- Tudor Bosman
Fantastic idea! The NBA Star Yao ming will love this! ...via AlertThingy
- fiorano
@Kevin:"The patented seat recline which slides down and forward, reclines you to your perfect lounging position."
- Anne Bouey
@Paul Buchheit: they probably don't have a $14 bill, even if a $15.
- Puneet Thapliyal
Here's an idea: Burn 99% of the bank notes in Zimbabwe. Wouldn't that bring the value up? I'm no economist, but it seems that if the government is making so much money it makes inflation soar to 100,000%, getting rid of most of the bank notes would raise the value of the ones that remain.
- Voyagerfan5761
I find the news item interesting and want to mark it as such but "Like" seems like such a wrong term here.
- Ashwin Bharambe
@Ashwin: I think the Like feature means you find the article (or whatever the content is) interesting, not that you necessarily think its content is a good thing for society (as this obviously is not).
- Voyagerfan5761
is it just me or does it look a little deformed.... (please don't kill me for saying so!)
- Ňicķ
It's just the breed. The mom (visible in a couple of the photos) looks the same way.
- ⓞnor
It's mostly the breed. Its ears are folded back so its head looks disturbingly round. It's more pronounced in kittens (all baby animals have rounder features).
- Kevin Fox
"For their new approach, the UMass researchers rapidly heated cellulose in the presence of solid catalysts. They then rapidly cooled the products to create a liquid that contains many of the compounds found in gasoline. The entire process was completed in under two minutes using relatively moderate amounts of heat. The compounds that formed in that single step, like naphthalene and toluene, make up one fourth of the suite of chemicals found in gasoline. The liquid can be further treated to form the remaining fuel components or can be used "as is" for a high octane gasoline blend."
- Paul Buchheit
The driver holding this sign had the silliest and most eager smile on her face. Just waiting for someone else to acknowledge the name.
- Christopher Sacca
is this a trend? will this bring back the blink tag? :)
- felix
I figure if someone looks at that but doesn't get it, they're not a geek. :P But to me, it's just more funny like the rest of the jokes on teh intarwebz. :-)
- Voyagerfan5761
It looks almost like a challenge: “cut here”
- John Lam
I had never seen the first two. They look interesting. How are the data sets edited and updated? Freebase doesn't interest me from what I can tell. They seem more focused on the relationships between data items than the data itself because of all the "semantic web" stuff, and most of it seems to be relatively uninteresting data from IMDB and other existing web sources.
- Bret Taylor
Unfortunately they rarely get updated and most data sets cannot really be used reliably. theinfo.org is essentially an indie scraper's paradise and the intended use is controlled lab experiments. Perhaps a fresh, well-publicized effort will stand better chance.
- Aviv
Google already has access to at least 5 of the data sets you listed... sure, licensed and all, but at the end of the day shouldn't face great difficulties bending arcane usage restrictions. Let developers play with the data inside the cloud...
- Aviv
Right. The big obstacle would still be the whole issue of usage restrictions and copyrights, and as you said in your last point, it won't work without the backing of big companies. Developers can have access to such valuable data sets today - simply by scraping. It's far from ideal, but it works, and it can be kept up-to-date with extra effort. But then how do we go about using the data - and actually telling people about it? :)
- Aviv
@Bret you should talk to Freebase. This is precisely what they're trying to do. It may not look how you want it to now, but I think a conversation between the two companies makes a whole lot of sense.
- Carla Thompson
"The most important part of an environment that encourages innovation is low barriers to entry. The moment a contract and lawyers are involved, you inherently restrict the set of people who can work on a problem to well-funded companies with a profitable product. Likewise, companies that sell data have to protect their investments, so permitted uses for the data are almost always explicitly enumerated in contracts." -what memories ;)
- David
But you do need to be ready if you wish to succeed (able to learn quickly enough from mistakes to prosper). Anyone can try. Anyone, also, can fail (and most do before succeed). It's a free country.
- Alex Hammer
Not sure, why 12+ peeps - flaged as "liked" ?? 2nd'ly- creative fashion w/food stuffs when half the world is in near starvation mode, jus shows the metal state of the person who did it. GROSS is an understateme
- Peter Dawson
Happy Birthday April. "Like"-ing the link location on friendfeed.com very much. Linking to this from a prominent location is creative and dare I say it, cute :) - My girlfriend, Kati, will like this very much.
- Mustafa K. Isik
Thank you, everyone! This has truly made me feel very special.
- April Buchheit
I really was behind the carrier pigeon initiative....
- Chris Reed
It's easier to like than to comment, just like it's easier to Twitter than to long-form blog.
- Louis Gray
Louis, the interesting thing is that likes don't consistently beat comments. For example, this entry has 20 likes and 39 comments: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Paul Buchheit
Makes sense. I'm at 909 comments and 491 likes so far, so some of the disparity is my fault! (He said, tilting at windmills)
- Louis Gray
My April Fools got more hits (and links) than the real story yesterday. Looks like a moratorium on real stories April 1 ?
- Charlie Anzman
my ratio is pretty even. would be fun to rank order people by their comment to like ratio and look at the distribution - is that possible through the api?
- Alex Gawley
I've got twice as many "Likes" as comments. Guess I'm just lazy :)
- Shannon Jiménez
Paul now 9 comments, but only one is about pigeons : ) I'm now fascinated, too : )
- Erhan
Indeed, my own behavior is something like Chris White's. I usually Like things that I, you know, like, but won't add a comment unless I really have something to say. Sometimes that doesn't happen until someone else's comment inspires me.
- Voyagerfan5761
I've seen this somewhere before, but can't place it. Tatarah is an auction site where the lowest and unique price will win the item. Some doubt it'll work, but where the hell have I seen it before?!?
- Kevin Lim
i wonder how much the participants had to practice in order to keep from making too many mistakes or extra movements? amazing, creative, and very cool! i approve this message.
- Mike Massey