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Sunday at 7:28 am - Link
This is a great list. I especially liked #4: "4. There is no such thing as bad weather." This is so true. I'm always amazed that people want to wimp out when it's raining when some of the most amazing photographs taken come from rainy weather. - Thomas Hawk
Excellent list! I have found that I already follow quite a few of the items on your list, but still learned a few new ones. Great advice. - Jeff P. Henderson
All right I must come back and re-read after dinner. I dug #4. - Mathew A. Koeneker
I love photography. Following Martin and digitial photography school on google reader - Phillip Jeffrey
thanks everyone for your comments - Darren Rowse
#4 yes there is , come to canada and shoot in mid january in 3 ft of snow and 30 degree weather ... I still dont like it http://www.flickr.com/photos/j... - fotographic
Bad weather here in the SF bay area is temperatures below 40F and 2 inches of rain in one day ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson
Yap - thanks everyone !!! Good to see some conversation going on in here ;) - Martin Gommel
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Monday at 7:22 am - Link
Im gonna pass this along to a few of my flickr groups , thanks - fotographic
I think it's a mistake to assume that photos are all about the photography. More often it's the subject matter itself which is the point of any discussion. It's like as if blog comments were always about the author's writing style rather than what they are writing about. - Andy Roberts
this post went crazy on Digg today - thanks for passing it on fotographic - Darren Rowse
your welcome darren , always enjoy the blog - fotographic
I enjoyed this article, I know I'm sometimes guilty of being overcritical or just posting snarky comments. - sergiooooooo
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Saturday at 7:21 am - Link
For me, it depends on why it got the traffic. If because of Digg, Slashdot, etc. No. If because I see tons of "thanks for writing this" reader comments, Yes. - Kevin C. Tofel
It's more of search traffic from google, the comments are present, but not overwhelmingly more than other posts (my blog is less than two months old) but people are searching this topic more than the others I posted. Thanks for the comment. - Keith Bloemendaal
If people are searching about this topic using a variety of different search key phrases then it's worth adding more content in the form of additional posts. If it's all on one specific search phrase then that's good too, because you may be able to spin off a whole new blog just about that phrase. - Andy Roberts
Thanks Andy, they are using a variety of search terms. - Keith Bloemendaal
like others - for me it depends on the source of traffic. If it's Search traffic, I do a couple of things: 1. optimize the page so it ranks even better. This involves some on page optimization as well as linking to it from other relevant pagses on the blog. 2. write related posts (usually not on exactly the same topic but on related ones that either extend the post, find a similar topic etc. - Darren Rowse
any posts about how to optimize a poplar post or page? - Miguel Wickert- Pineiro
will write something on that Miguel - keep tuned into ProBlogger - Darren Rowse
A related technical question: how to approximate/relate bandwidth to #visitors. Limits of virtual compared to dedicated. Host reliability, etc. - phil baumann
That's an easy one. YES! Expand on the topic any way you can. Ask for user experiences, turn it into a detailed series, do polls, how-tos, tweaking, etc. And don't blow the whole was at once. Space it out. Do other stories in between to keep the site from becoming just about that topic, which (like anything else) could become a past fad at any point and no longer relevant. - Ernie Oporto
I've been wondering about this very issue myself. How far do you go to capitalize on a great post. - Todd
it's important to do at least some analysis as to why it was so popular and performed so well. Sometimes the content had little to do with it. - Allen Stern
Thanks for all the responses, my blog is a niche that I have not found many other blogs to look to for topic help, and I am having a new wordpress site built by iBusinessLogic.com (Scott Pooler) and am working on some ideas for two more sites. This post in question has now quadrupled the traffic on any other post I have written, so I will be working on expanding the topic in the near future. - Keith Bloemendaal
I have a couple of posts getting traffic because they were linked from another site. I also just noticed I'm getting a small amount of google traffic. I would definitely like to see a strategy to capitalize on this situation. - Rahsheen Porter
I ended up creating two separate series on the blog based on the post's success. It allowed me to expand and use other networks to grow the audience even more. - Andre Natta
awesome, thanks Darren! I'm looking forward to it. :) - Miguel Wickert- Pineiro
Yep. In fact I did so earlier today after looking at analytics and saw organic traffic coming in from a certain post. - Brian Weaver
@Keith I think that if the first doubling does not push you to expand on the post, the continous grow is a clear sign that it has to do with the content, and not just "lucked out on digg". - Roland Hesz
It would make sense, but I'm guilty of not capitalising on it and just letting that one post bring in the traffic - Adam Christie
I write my blog for me, there are subjects that get more attention but I am not going to sell out what I enjoy doing! - Joe Dawson
@ Joe Dawson I write my blog for consumers, and if they are searching heavily on a subject, why not give them what they are looking for at my blog, especially if it has to do with my niche (which happens to be very small), so if trying to give them what they are looking for, while at the same time attracting more readers, then OK, I will sell out as you put it. My blog is not monetized though, so I get no money for it, I write on it for free, I would think selling out would have some monetary benefit to me. - Keith Bloemendaal
it all depends. tempting to cash in on popularity but if you're not passionate about it, others can tell &blogging becomes a dreadful chore. - jane
I would certainly add in a few links to other relevant posts, or perhaps add a little note suggesting that readers might like to sign up to the RSS feed or newsletter. Realistically these posts often attract transient traffic but some of that can be translated into regular readers for sure! - Winston
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ProBlogger Room: Nancy Nally posted a message
June 10 at 12:05 pm - Link
yeah - I immediately thought of it more as a good tool to update my blog/moderate comments etc - but mobile readers will continue to increase! - Darren Rowse
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Social Media: Reem Abeidoh posted a link
June 4 at 11:57 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
nice overview mu :) one thing about the replies not showing up in a public timeline - i think a lot of the replies end up being quirky smily face replies, and just friendly remarks, which would really clutter up the timeline (though of course not all of them are - this is just my first 24 hours observation). a good solution is just to reply in a new thread so that you can be heard if you have something important or interesting to add and then link back to the original persons plurk i.e. http://www.plurk.com/p/3yrh - jaybol
I've been allocating my friendfeed time to Plurk. Damn that site is addictive. - Maki
@maki I feel you, I'm caught in a vicious love triangle with Plurk, Friendfeed and a half working twitter. Lets see who will win my long term affection=) - Steaprok
Maki - Re-tune your FF and split the time. Trust me ??!! - Charlie Anzman
Playing with Plurk today too - http://plurk.com/redeemByURL?f... - Darren Rowse
"Import" your plurk feed as a "blog." I agree, @Maki, addictive and fun! - Kimberly J
there is a FF Room for it BTW http://friendfeed.com/rooms/pl... - David Harry
Hey Darren, good to see you in here. I've been plurking so much you can call me a Plurkaholic. The experience so far is leaps ahead of Twitter and FriendFeed. Now we just need a bigger community (which is thankfully taking hold quite fast). - Muhammad Saleem
It sure is addictive, but I really can't see this going mainstream...even if the karma keeps people around. - Ryne Nelson
msaleem, already creating another room for plurk? :D - Syahid A.
Plurk is too much wurk - I am not a fan - Leslie
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ProBlogger Room: Darren Rowse posted a message
June 1 at 7:35 pm - Link
Absolutely I would! - Traci Knoppe
Yes I would and I would look forward to it also. - Grant Griffiths via twhirl
Yes Yes YES! Any more questions? LOL - Nancy Nally
Yep Yep Yep. I'd love to hang around :) - Shankar Ganesh
I think it's a mistake to not start one Darren. Think of all the content ideas you could get from it. Ala searchenginerountable....via feedalizr - Jim Kukral
No, my attention is too divided as it is with social media and writing - Leslie
I think it is a great idea, but you need a team of moderators who are truly democratic and open to controversial issue! If you start banning users because you do not agree with what they saying, it will be a negative backlash for Problogger! While I have all the confidence in Darren, but I cannot see Darren always moderating the forum. So unless Darren has a group of individuals who he can trust and delegate this authority, while at the same time supervising them, it is better not to do it! - Igor The Troll
So Darren please ask yourself this question, "Do I have the proper resources to run a forum?" And resources means technology, people, and your own time and energy! - Igor The Troll
FOLLOW UP QUESTION - what areas/topics would you like such a forum to cover (if you answer yes that is) - Darren Rowse
While I think a forum would work well on your site, because you have such a large and strong community already, Igor has a good point. The resources to run a forum are very different from running a blog. As for topics to cover. Look at http://forum.authorityblogger.... they have a good start for a blogging forum and topics. - LGR
Regarding the follow up question... I think it should cover all the obvious topics, like social media, SEO, affiliate programs, AdSense, etc. Another interesting forum would be an "ethics" forum or something along those lines, for people to discuss their views on the ethics of various promotion/monetisation strategies. - Eric Daams
I would love one, Darren. I think it could be a great place for bloggers to connect, find like-minded people, and have a place they feel they can have a voice with other bloggers. - Mark Frost
I think the topics should be Social Networking, SEO, Advertising, Writing Advice, Viral Marketing, and maybe some off-topic sections. Just promise to use vBulletin, Darren. - Mark Frost
I agree about the topics! - Igor The Troll
Cannot see why not...but could be difficult for you to moderate? - Luke Harvey-Palmer
What about a Wiki? Self moderating, would contain similar info to the forum? - Luke Harvey-Palmer
Who is going to write the wiki? Average Joe, same like Wikipedia? - Igor The Troll
Definitely. It would be a great resource for new, old and soon to be bloggers. - Patrick Britton
I go with the forum Webmasterworld, Lonelyplanet Tree! These are great communities! - Igor The Troll
Maybe Igor could write on the Wiki? - Luke Harvey-Palmer
No thank you! Did my Wiki days on Wikipedia! It is very hard to maintain an industry wiki unless you have professional editors. - Igor The Troll
I would probably decline if Darren asked me to be a moderator on the forum! It is a lot of work and you have to be impartial, fair, and respect all members beginners and advance! - Igor The Troll
I would love to see a forum on ProBlogger, but like many people who have already commented, I am concerned about whether ProBlogger has the resources to run one. - Riayn
Sure, I'd really like to use it too!! - Desi
I would sure visit it a few times a week. - Michael
I'd like to make one more point because I know Problogger is already a massive sort of community even without a forum, but there is no real way for a blogger to get sort of instant feedback from other bloggers about their progress. Take for instance if I wanted help developing my writing skills to connect more with readers or needed tips on how to be more creative, I could probably get feedback within minutes. - Mark Frost
I'm confident Darren can pull together a team to help. I moderate a large forum and would be willing to help or moderate a new ProBlogger forum as well. I'm a web designer, so could help on installing a forum too, if help was needed with that. - Traci Knoppe
Isn't that what we're using now... lol - Martin Jamieson
No thanks. There are plenty of forums for bloggers already. Too much UGC at problogger might allow Darren to retire completely and kill off the main blog itself. - Andy Roberts
Yes for a forum. Get a few forum users to moderate it. - Guinevere Orvis
If you make a forum, make sure you integrate the blog. Make it so that each of your blog posts spawns a thread in the forum where people can respond. Have the comments from your blog and the comments from the forum thread cross-pollinate, so that the discussion is complete. If you do this, there will be less of a wall between your blog and the forums. - Ed Healy
@Ed I'm not sure that's a good idea and that has been one of the things keeping Darren from making a ProBlogger forum in the past. I think if he makes a forum, the discussions should be separate from that of the blog and its posts as to not have the two interfere with each other. - Mark Frost
Is there a reason why tying them together would be bad? If the concern is whether forum posts will pollute the quality of the blog comments, one solution is to have the cross-pollination only go one way. IOW, have the blog populate forum threads (post only, no comments), so that people can discuss the blog in the forums, but stop the tie-in there. - Ed Healy
Yes, but only if you'd participate too. :) - Sarah Parker
I'm not a very big fan of forums. At least, not anymore. I think that the way things go on ProBlogger's FriendFeed Room and comments on the blog it's about right for my needs of communication. It seams I appreciate a lot more the simplicity of FF conversations. - Alex Cristache
The two comments I posted this morning (WordPress questions) are exactly the sort of thing that I would love a forum for! - Nancy Nally
Find like-minded people to interact with in one place. - Janette Toral
thanks everyone for your opinions - lots to think about here. I agree though - I'd only do this if I can find enough moderators to help cover the load. This is what I did at my photography blog and it worked quite well. - Darren Rowse
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ProBlogger Room: Jansen Lu posted a message
June 3 at 7:17 pm - Link
Ask questions and request suggestions in every post. :) - Sarah Parker
Engage the commentator. It is a two way Street! - Igor The Troll
Do you have a conversation strategy? http://beth.typepad.com/beths_... - Beth Kanter
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June 3 at 2:32 pm - Link
Networking is fun and rewarding, but is so overwhelming and a time sucker. It's a catch 22 as I do believe it is key to my blog's continued growth. I find that my traffic goes down if I slow down on networking for a few days, but I don't want to be a computer addict either. :) - Sarah Parker
Finding time and energy to post properly. My earlier pro-blogger attempts were mostly link posts, which failed miserably. Now, I'm vastly better at original content creation, but with a fairly full-on day job, I find it hard to find time and energy to create well. - Andrew Garrett
Getting more readers for the blog and trying balance that with actually having time to write posts for the blog. - Trisha
Finding ways to be comfortable blogging about several totally unrelated topics all on one blog. Trying to write for different audiences without impinging on each other. - Andy Roberts
It's hard to stay organized reviewing the incoming information that I need to stay apprised of to get the news and information I need to write my posts. There's feeds to read, news sites to browse, social networks to keep up with... I'm sure it takes me longer to do than it probably should. - Nancy Nally
Does it mater where you post? Unless you trying to become rich from selling Adsense on your blog you should be able to garnish interest and followers even if you only post on social media networks. So do not be a "Blogger" only person but post were it is relevant. By having this kind of mentality you will have enough time for your off line activities. It is not the number of people who visit your blog, but how many people read what you write on the Internet as well as off the Internet. - Igor The Troll
all good stuff, thanks... post is taking me longer to write than expected and I've got to go out for a few hours... working at home with two young kids after a few days of rain that kept them inside and unable to run-off their energy is definitely my biggest challenge, lol. so keep em coming, I'll post the link here when it's done. - Martin Jamieson
Thanks again to everyone who commented, my post about facing challenges can be found here: http://marketing-seo.com/blog-... - Martin Jamieson
nice use of the room Martin - will check out the post, it was a good discussion. - Darren Rowse
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ProBlogger Room: Sarah Parker posted a message
June 2 at 11:47 am - Link
Set up some email templates covering a few typical answers, requests etc. As for commenting, try to answer as much as you can without messing your schedule. Look especially for those comments that could further develop a conversation. - Alex Cristache
Try to reply to several commenters in one comment of your own, there's no need to reply to everyone seperately - Stephen B via Alert Thingy
Batch process comments and email. Darren had a good post on clearing your email inbox efficiently: http://www.problogger.net/arch... - Maki
Thank you. I am always afraid someone will feel left out. :( But I can't spend my life responding to comments and emails, I realize. I know I feel slightly bummed when I leave really thoughtful comments on someone's post and they do not respond, So I'm afraid of accidentally overlooking the same person, esp repeatedly. But I need to get over it. Thanks for the advice! - Sarah Parker
Sarah - this is a common problem. In addition to the link Maki left above I've written another - http://www.problogger.net/arch... on this exact problem. Hope it helps - Darren Rowse
Close your comments unless you willing to engage your commentators! You do not need to respond to everyone, even though it is desirable, but respond to main themes. Darren does it one way, Maki another way! I respond to all. - Igor The Troll
Thanks again, guys. I really appreciate it. - Sarah Parker
Sarah, you should read this link about Gary Vaynerchuk where he talks about his daily email routine with commenters from his podcast: http://www.hooversbiz.com/2008... - Nancy Nally
Thank you Nancy! - Sarah Parker
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June 1 at 5:12 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Problogger testing a new Anit-Spam filter TypePad AntiSpam. So do not panic if your comment is held for moderation! - Igor The Troll
so far it's been great. Not a single person complaining of comments being eaten in 24 hours. Comments are still being moderated (Akismet did this too) but less false positives as far as I can see - Darren Rowse
Great job Darren very professionally done! I like the idea that you did a test post to see if there would be a problem. I recommend to all Bloggers when installing a new Anti-Spam filter to keep an eye on moderation cue, because you do not want a commentator to feel bad if their relevant comments are flagged for moderation! Akismet has a big problem with False positives. You can see my PHSDL Anti-Spam project documentation about Akismet false positive here. http://www.phsdl.net/phsdl-vs-... - Igor The Troll
yes we've been watching the spam filter carefully. It's hard to watch everything it filters (we get tens of thousands of comment spams a day) but I'm yet to see any go through falsely of the thousand or two that I've scanned through. - Darren Rowse
Darren try PHSDL it will eliminate 95% of Spam even reaching the comment moderation cue! - Igor The Troll
I can't get mine to work - Michael
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ProBlogger Room: Sharon posted a link
May 31 at 4:23 pm - Link
Looks like a great start! - Nancy Nally
welcome to the blogsphere! - Heidi Cool
Sharon, the blogger. Welcome! (Tip: Make use of paragraphs when you write. Helps people read easier.) - Alex Cristache
Welcome... I'm new to blogging also. Just starting to figure out Blogger (after experimenting with Tribe.Net for 150 posts). Then later maybe WordPress... Any blogger tips are very welcome! - Mitchell Tsai
There is no formula for blogging, just go with your passion! - Igor The Troll
welcome to blogging! - Darren Rowse
You are in the right place! Get to know the community and have fun! - Igor The Troll
Great Blog to learn the ins and out! lol Very Educational. - Igor The Troll
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May 30 at 5:34 am - Link
that should have been 'stranger' not 'strange' - Darren Rowse
does that make you question your openness? I have always been hesitant to give much in terms of family details. - Rob Diana
yeah - a little. I don't generally use my family's name. The only time I did was when my son was born almost 2 years ago - although I do call him 'X' and there are not too many X names out there :-) - Darren Rowse
I am the same Darren, I think I reveal too much in my blog at times but I never mention anyone's names and try not to detail in advance where I am going. You never know who's reading! - Joe Dawson
it's always a tough one becaue you want to be personal as that is engaging but too personal has its dangers - Darren Rowse
Interesting topic here! I humbly think that the bad thing in social networks in general is the cult of "person", when it should be the cult of "concepts" and ideas... but I may be wrong... Am I ? :) - directeur
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ProBlogger Room: Darren Rowse posted a message
May 30 at 4:51 am - Link
Awesome! - Shelly Weiss
Looks nice! - Igor The Troll
i feel all warm and fuzzy about it.... - now we just need bean bags - Darren Rowse
It's nice to have somewhere to land the helicopter. - Andy Roberts
LOL - i'd never looked at it that way..... now I just need a ProBlogger chopper to land on it! - Darren Rowse
Darren, soon, soon! You will be a celebrity before you know it. lol But I doubt you want to be one! - Igor The Troll
We're styling now! - Nancy Nally
Excellent! - Arachne Jericho
It looks great up there! - Joseph Z.
This is great idea to let people know it is a part of ProBlogger community, not a part of Friendfeed:) - Oliver Ding
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Robert Scoble posted a video on Seesmic
Blame Scoble? Bulls**t.
May 30 at 5:07 am - Link
I twittered about twitter lame excuse ~5 hr ago...they can't be serious. - Tal Keinan
The comments are really pissing me off. FriendFeed is 1000 times more reliable. Twitter was going down before I even got popular on the service. Their architecture has always sucked and everyone knows it. They've never been able to get a handle on the quality of their service and now it looks like they are blaming their top users. Wonderful. I'll just go to the service that CAN keep up with my load. So far FriendFeed has been. - Robert Scoble
*face palm* - Andrew Dobrow
Have I missed something? Have Twitter actually blamed you (and other "super-users" for their problems? (UPDATE - Ahh, scratch that, just found the post). - Ian Betteridge
Ian, yes, they did in their latest technical post. Not using my name, but they said that noisy users with lots of followers are part of what's causing lots of load on their systems. - Robert Scoble
VentureBeat post in question http://venturebeat.com/2008/05... - Andrew Dobrow
Twitters excuses are pathetic. If one power user could take down Twitter, they should stop their services. Okay, Robert Scoble is a real power user. But if a service can't handle one of those guys, it shouldn't be on the web. - Ryo
Time for the "noisy users" to take their conversations elsewhere? I wonder where they could go that would support them and be able to handle the traffic they bring with them....hmmm. - cmiper
Ridiculous. It is NEVER the community's fault. And it's NEVER ok to blame the community. I missed this excerpt on my initial reading of the post on dev.twitter. Even if the technical basis is because of some sort of data pileup, that's because of their shitty scaling and their lack of planning from public launch. They should be able to handle a rapid succession of actions if they had their head screwed on straight. - Andrew Dobrow
OK, so this is what Payne actually said: "The events that hit our system the hardest are generally when “popular” users - that is, users with large numbers of followers and people they’re following - perform a number of actions in rapid succession. This usually results in a number of big queries that pile up in our database(s). Not running scripts to follow thousands of users at a time would be a help, but that’s behavior we have to limit on our side." - Ian Betteridge
Agreed - It's all BS to blame you for their technical issues. Maybe we revisit the pay service debate? It's only going to grow. Twitter has to have the ability to keep the fire going. - Lisa Thompson
And even if this IS the case. The fact that Twitter didn't plan for this by having some sort of friend limit is THEIR administrative absent-mindedness. - Andrew Dobrow
My question is, isn't FriendFeed sustaining the same impact when we all get on here and 'chat'? I've never had a problem with FriendFeed, and most especially never got the annoying pic of the birds carrying a whale..... - Paula Hawk
Robert, Twitter has recently been pretty open about what its architectural problems are lately. The way I read what Payne is saying isn't that he's blaming "popular" users: he's explaining, openly, where the system is not coping as well as it should. As for how FriendFeed does it... think of the network effect. Think of how the number of interconnections times the number of users affects the number of total database queries. You can work it out :) - Ian Betteridge
To be fair a) Friendfeed could hit the same problems if it becomes as popular and b) what they are saying may actually be true. This may be the cause of the database jams. This is reasonably unchartered territory and technical hitches like this will be discovered. It's like heating chemicals to extreme temperatures - sometimes strange shit happens. - Martin Weller
Possibly the lamest excuse for chronic system unworthiness in the history of social media. - Chris Baskind
Paula: I believe the traffic levels here are far more than anything Twitter saw in its early days and it's WAY faster and WAY more reliable than Twitter was at its same stage in life. - Robert Scoble
I don't think it was intended to get that across as an excuse... perhaps he was only trying to say what causes a problem. (UPDATE - although, it does seem like a serious design issue if they didn't consider such loads upfront.) - Parth Awasthi
Gotta say, if they're blaming the people with large follower/following numbers, then they just admitted to have a serious problem with their architecture. If you can't handle people USING your service, well then you shouldn't be in the service providing business. - Michael Koby
@Parth But if it does cause a problem it is not anyones fault but their own. If they weren't prepared for this type of growth and this level of scaling, there should have been a friend limit, much like Facebook has. - Andrew Dobrow
Robert - would it be churlish to suggest a week of you, Leo, Kevin R etc dumping as many tweets as you can into twitter? ;-) - Mat
This is the problem with being transparent about issues like this: someone picks up a quote, headlines it with "Twitter says it's the user's fault" and everyone froths about it. - Ian Betteridge
Martin: I don't think FriendFeed will hit the same troubles. First of all, FriendFeed is growing MUCH faster than Twitter ever did. It took me more than a year to get more than 10,000 followers on Twitter, while I did that here in only a couple of months. Second of all, FriendFeed's team understands how to build scalable systems a lot more than anyone on Twitter's team does. You HAVE to look at who is on the team. That's why I chose this over SocialThing or Profilactic. - Robert Scoble
Darn noisy tweeters ruining it for everyone. j/k :P Pretty lame-o excuse for not have the architecture to scale properly. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Michael: Twitter already talked about their architectural problems: http://dev.twitter.com/2008/05... - Ian Betteridge
Robert, I'm favoring FF more and more as you do, and Twitter is only helping FF right now. - Brian Carter
Ian: no, the answer is to be MORE transparent with issues like this and they should be participating in the conversation, which they aren't and rarely have on Twitter, even. That's a MAJOR part of the problem over there. No one on Twitter is really a serious Twitter user. I look over here at the FriendFeed team and I see tons of serious FriendFeed use. - Robert Scoble
I bet you Scoble is blogging atm. Or at least planning a post soon :-D - Andrew Dobrow
this should be interesting to watch! - ben rogers via twhirl
The Google guys are way more prepared than the Twitter guys. See my comments at http://friendfeed.com/e/03473e... I used to make $billion apps in the 1980s, and it was laughable to see the early Internet crashes on the big Amazon & eBay systems. Even Meg Whitman at one point admitted that she had to rethink her tech strategy for eBay - that better reliability required a whole different approach. Welcome to the world of BIG stuff! - Mitchell Tsai
I think a lot of you are taking Alex's comments wrong. He's not necessarily saying "power users are bringing down Twitter". What he's *actually* saying (at least how it looks to me) is that Twitter's architecture was built wrong, and the way it was built makes it easy for power users to put a huge strain on the system. While it probably sounds like they're placing the blame on power users, they're actually placing the blame squarely on the poorly-constructed Twitter architecture. - Nathaniel Payne
I would not even care about Twitter if you hadn't been talking about it. They need some perspective. - Josh
have to agree with Robert on this one - they should be active on twitter - watching the has tags and commenting where necessary like brightkite and zappos and seesmic etc etc - ben rogers via twhirl
Yep FriendFeed is working so great Robert's video doesn't even work and nobody that knows the nature of social networks is really blaming Twitter for going through what is typical for any social network and that includes FriendFeed. To date Twitter has been the most reliable for the number of users and the allowed tweets. Now Twitter spammers and the many numbers of folks who join your feeds and then find they have the time to read their post need to get off but super-users like Scoble, Laporte and Rose Don't need to leave. Obama, McCain and Clinton if she's on do...nobody is reporting anything on Twitter the cannot find on the news an hour ago. - James Bess
My site went down earlier for about a half hour and it's Scoble's fault. - Paul Short
Robert, nothing in the original post says "Blame Scoble", or even "Blame the users" - and yet that's what you're claiming they're saying. They explain what the issue is clearly and concisely, and yet now you're leading the crowd with the pitchforks and posting what's clearly an angry video clip. Calm down, mate. At the end of the day, if you don't believe their service can cope with what you want to do with it, change service. - Ian Betteridge
Whether or not Twitter's problems are due to "noisy" users with big followings is immaterial. The fact is they are backed into a corner and are turning to "transparency" as a last resort to try and buy some time. Unfortunately for them their 15 minutes of fame has clearly passed. If this is really the core problem with the recent outages it is a problem that could or should have been anticipated and dealt with a long time ago. That it hasn't is testimony to a lack of attention at Twitter by the management/founders. I suspect though that the problems of architecture, technology and personnel run much deeper. The people whose $15 million was recently invested I think can kiss their money goodbye. - Brian Sullivan
twas a bizarre call for them to use that excuse. - Darren Rowse
James: what are you talking about. The video is working great and so is FriendFeed. Twitter has NEVER been reliable. - Robert Scoble
Ian: read the headline. When you allow journalists to use headlines like that, and you don't get involved in the comments, then you are condoning them. Also, the engineer clearly blamed "noisy" users like me for causing stress on their systems. Well, I'm 100x more noisy over here on FriendFeed and I have about half the number of followers here already. Why isn't FriendFeed seeing ANY slowdowns? - Robert Scoble
Ian: The article states "Most users of Twitter will single out one person who this points to: blogger and Fast Company employee Robert Scoble." That's pretty blatant in the conventional-business world of "play pretty" & "politically safe". I think Robert has a good right to be upset! - Mitchell Tsai
Sometimes the worst thing that can happen to someone/something is that it gets wildly popular. Back in the day podcasters would get a budget hosting service, get popular by some freak of nature, and crash servers and eat bandwidth. Didn't Twitter get some funding? Was that to cover pork rinds and beer? HIRE SOMEONE and get a better backend. - Lynette Young
Oh come on Robert. "Allow journalists to use headlines like that"? Thankfully, we don't live in countries where companies can determine the headlines about them. And no, Payne was not *blaming* noisy users. He was making a clear, matter-of-fact statement about the issues the system has with noisy users. As for why FF works well... well how many users total does it have? How many does it have that follow/are followed by over 2,000 others? Network effects count here - the more large users, the bigger strain. - Ian Betteridge
It doesn't even matter if they aren't blaming Scoble or if they're blaming Calacanis, or if even they're blaming Henry Rollins for all I care. You don't ever blame your own community for causing the problem. Ever. Even indirectly. - Andrew Dobrow
I lost a scoop of ice cream off my cone -- it's Scoble's fault cuz he Twitters too much :\ - Shey
Andrew: That statement does not blame anyone. It just says what the issue is. You want them to lie, and so "oh yeah, our system is totally happy with people doing this, it needs no more work than a few hundred more servers". - Ian Betteridge
From a technical perspective, most people don't design "scalable stuff" because they've never seen the issues (either from academic research, or practical industry). I don't know the inside issues, but from Scoble's description of the performance of Twitter and FriendFeed in the their early days, I'd guess that Twitter's basic design needs to be scrapped & recreated, a major headache. In tech, if you have to redesign 10%, it's cheaper (but painful) to redesign. New $15 million will be good for something.. - Mitchell Tsai
Hate to say it but I told you so on your blog the other week when you disagreed with Dare Obasanjo. Twitter given its current usage from its members is based on a flawed architecture. I don't think it can be fixed. - Jamie
Seems like VentureBeat is going for the hyperbolic headline. They know by rattling/linkbaiting Scoble they'll get some extra traction. With that said, it's not very smart singling out "power users" as the reason the backend is flawed. Would have been smarter to blame the system and leave it at that. Your power users are typically the most loyal. Don't blame them. Ever. - TDavid
Mitchell: That's exactly what Twitter has said it is doing. It's basically replacing its back end, bit by bit. - Ian Betteridge
Ian: The wording is awful. You don't say "it's the popular users!" You say "It's because we screwed up with our architecture" - Andrew Dobrow
Lynette: In entrepreneurship, I encourage people to create "Top 10 dreams" and "Top 10 risks" lists. A "Top 10" risk is all your founders die in an airplane crash. A "Top 10" dream is you're featured on the NY Times and 1,000,000 users show up in the next week. It's important to...at least...think about the possibilities and the costs/benefits of approaches to handle things. e.g. Your five servers were just burned in a fire, can you restore in 2 hrs? 24 hrs? Do you have emergency IT support? - Mitchell Tsai
Andrew: It's worth reading the whole of the architecture Q&A (http://dev.twitter.com/2008/05...). That puts this comment into a different context. Basically, they're saying "we screwed up" - but VentureBeat is grabbing out of context statements to get traffic. - Ian Betteridge
Andrew: That's the responsible approach! "We need to redesign our architecture for real scalability. We underestimated the demands of real users." Big companies like Exxon are not the only ones shirking responsibility! Little ones do it too. - Mitchell Tsai
Alex said it was a flawed architecture. He was asked what could be done right now to help alleviate (sp?) twitter's problem and he gave his answer based on the current state of the architecture.[Edit] I don't see the need to take offense at all - he did not say it was the "popular" users fault that twitter's so bottlenecked. He has already acknowledged in a previous post on twitter arch. that the arch. is at fault. If you want to take offence, go ahead but if you calm down and think about it, its a developer architect's assessment of what will help now. - Kamath
Oh and Scoble, I know you're trying to be quiet not to wake the baby, but please go record on Seesmic when you can talk at a regular volume. You sound like a cross between Freddy Krueger and Mr. Rogers. - TDavid
DAMN YOU, SCOBLE!!! - Ben Rhudy
It's obvious that once someone with lots of followers sends two thing in quick succession, he will generate a butterfly effect. But is it the person's fault (i.e. a bad thing instead of an achievement) that he is very popular? Notwithstanding, blaming users is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the head, company-wise. - Rodrigo Jaroszewski
TDavid: >>Freddy Krueger and Mr. Rogers that was the first thing that made me laugh in this whole thread, thanks! - Robert Scoble
Robert: Seesmic videos do not seem to open and run "inline" in IE7 -- a point I have made several times (trying to do it directly to Loic LeMeur -- with no fix and no response). Since you have a line of communication to him and I don't maybe you should pass the information on. - Brian Sullivan
While I didn't read any blame placed on Robert - If a single fellow can destroy such a service (which I think is complete utter crap) then you've got to examine your service. It isn't scalable. It isn't working. It's design was badly implemented, and it needs fixing. After all, what happens when 100,000 'scobles' come along? I think we should coin the word 'scoble' as a social network unit of peak activity :) "What happens to our services when we reach 1million scobles?" But I digress. - mokargas
The simple answer, and the one Twitter should have used all along was "We screwed up." Period. Don't blame API calls. Don't blame power users. Don't blame Rails or anyone or thing else. We screwed up. We are sorry. We'll fix it. That's all. Anything else just adds to the current "Grab a torch and pitchfork" response from the community. I've given up that they will ever understand WHY it borks regularly, but maybe with the $15 million, they could hire a decent PR firm who can give them their talking points. - Cyndy
Wow, you would think that the admin od Twitter would be thanking Scoble, Laporte and Calacanus for making Twitter what it is today! If it wasnt for a half dozen heavy users, Twitter would have fallen into the bucket of useless crap on the cloud. if you (Twitter Admin) can't fess up to what the real problem is, maybe you need to hand over the baton and get out of the business. Aparently you don't like the spotlight and do not know what to do next. You are also saying that you have too many users and are literally pushing them out of Twitterland by the hundreds. I am on the fence and teetering to FriendFeed! - Pentaxfan
@ Cyndy, couldnt agree more! - Dudu P
Brian: I rarely use IE anymore. Firefox is just so much faster of a browser it isn't even funny. - Robert Scoble
Why all this talk about Twitter? Just forget about it and move to FriendFeed. - TranceMist
A sign of the beginning of the end is when they start pointing fingers at others. They see something else, like friendfeed catching up and soon will pass them if they don't get their act together. - Caleb Easterwood
Scoble - They said that "Not running scripts to follow thousands of users at a time would be a help" and it's something they have to address. How does this blame you? As a matter of fact, it's probably not even related to you but to somebody that was creating the db problems in the past week by mass amounts of follows. The article from VentureBeat is actually what's blaming you. :-\ - Damon
Maybe, just maybe, the world isn't revolving around Scoble? nah! - Soulhuntre via twhirl
Nice response Scoble - total bullshit that one person can take down a whole service. Look at some of the spam twitter accounts - I have seen a lot more follows on those than you have. What a crap post (VB). - Dave Gray
Twitter didn't blame Scoble, this guy Siegler who doesn't work at Twitter is the one who said it. To add -- if you look at the Q&A from Twitter, they were responding to a user who asked if the users could do anything to help. Twitter responded by saying don't run scripts that automatically hit their servers. Twitter did not say anything about Scoble. - Jason Honingford
So if the top users are part of the problem then folks who follow all the top users... wait, that means they're blaming me too. - Jon Winters
Well they could always kill themselves off by turning off the API and forcing people to only use the webpage again. - Jason Mitchell via twhirl
I agree with Damon. "Not running scripts to follow thousands of users at a time would be a help" doesn't apply to Scoble, Calacanis, Laporte, etc. That's more of a spammer issue. So that could explain why there are problems when you're not on. Tools like this are a big problem >> http://www.livelybrowser.com/i... That tool looks at EVERYONE who is online and adds them as friends. - Mike Doeff
Twitter makes funny news now ;)) I still think you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Scoble! :D - Sébastien
Robert, you're not to blame for a service taking a dive. However, you've got it completely wrong when you compare FriendFeed to Twitter. The architectures are different and different goals. If FriendFeed had to analyze each person's SMS and IM settings for update notifications every time anybody posts *anything*, they'd be in the same exact boat. FriendFeed is not going down because they aren't pushing updates in real time. - Sol Young
I actually sympathize with Robert this time. Twitter *knew* letting someone push the system would hurt them, but unlike Facebook, they decided to leave things uncapped. And as soon as they reach a point where they think they can live without his free promotion, they make him the scapegoat for their scaling issues. - Roger Benningfield
Totally agree with you Scoble. Blamming the users is the wrong way to go. - David Cohn
Two things. a) The post that seems to have upset Robert was posted by MG Siegler on VentureBeat. That's the person that singled out Robert Scoble. It wasn't Twitter. On the Twitter Dev blog, they offered an explanation of where some of the large query volume is originating. That's NOT the same as BLAMING those sources for the current issues. From other posts it's very clear that they know their current architecture is inadequate. - Dewald Pretorius
http://xrl.us/bmazc tweets totally f#(%ed twitter - Noah David Simon
Interesting points of view. I posted something, in spanish in my blog, about Twitter and community. http://robertoarancibia.cl - Roberto Arancibia
Personally, I blame Scoble for making me drop my ice cream cone. - CatCubed
FriendFeed
May 27 at 7:20 am - Link
No, but I've used rustybudget.com for budgeting -- works pretty well. - Tamar Weinberg
That would rock! Gotta talk to my WP friends about that! - Tris Hussey via twhirl
I searched so hard for one. So I guess the answer is currently no. I tried DDay for a while, which does have a widget to display stuff coming up, and was neat in that it had recurrences, but in the end it was not what I wanted. I think the interface was lacking---I wanted a calendar, not to keep referring to one. Right now I use Google Calendar. And yes, WP 3.0 with integrated calendar would rock my world.... - Arachne Jericho
never seen one but I was thinking yesterday that I need something as I'm putting together a series of posts from me and others for when I take some paternity leave in the coming weeks - Darren Rowse
I'm not sure if it's necessary now; I was playing around yesterday and it might be possible to solve most of the editorial calendar problems with stuff that's already built into Wordpress and one other plugin. - Matthew Bennett
Paternity leave? Are you having a baby or your wife? lol - Igor The Troll
ummm - paternity leave is for parents caring for newborns - I take a couple of weeks off after the birth of my kids to enjoy time with my family and lighten the load on my wife. It's pretty common over here in Aus. - Darren Rowse
I use the "future posts" plugin for WP to help me see when I've got blank spots that need filling. - Lara Kulpa
Paternity leave is mostly for making sure that mum gets to have some sleep while the new bub is also asleep :) (and it comes from 'Paternal' i.e. one's father, making it leave for dads... as opposed to maternity leave, which is the mum taking time off). Hope everything is going well. Enjoy yourself, no better joy than that from a new bub. - Martin Jamieson
FriendFeed
May 28 at 7:42 am - Link
Anyway, just go and read the latest post on their home page. Offline blog promotion by Darren Rowse. Nice one. - Alex Cristache
they had a few issues earlier today - seems to be fixed now. - Darren Rowse
FriendFeed
May 28 at 12:32 am - via Reshare - Link
Google video with Darren ... is the sound wonky for others? - Tris Hussey
They replayed it on the 5pm news in Brisbane, btw... how come you weren't wearing a problogger t-shirt Darren ;) - Martin Jamieson
Tris - seems ok to me.... others having problems? - Darren Rowse
Martin - hehe, good one. I was going for a slightly more 'professional' look :-) - Darren Rowse
I liked it... especially the adorable little boy at the end. - Shelly Weiss
me too Shelly - he was very cute that day :-) - Darren Rowse
FriendFeed
May 28 at 7:15 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Darren on TV! Does he want to be Famous? - Igor The Troll
lol - doesn't every blogger like a little publicity? - Darren Rowse
FriendFeed
May 29 at 5:21 am - Link
depends on the depth and complexity of the post but for me it could be anything between 20 minutes (if I'm on a roll) and a few hours. - Darren Rowse
About 15-20 minimum, but can take quite a lot more if I need to find more reference on the topic, interesting posts to link to, or if I have to find photos or take screenshots that I'll manually adjust to fit my blog's design. If it's a personal opinion type of post it usually takes less to write down + 5 minutes to re-read and fix some small mistakes. - Alex Cristache
Same as Darren, between 20 minutes to a couple of hours. Depends on how much research needs to be done for the post. - Sharon Bray-McPherson
Well I'm dead impressed. It takes me twenty minutes just to make a plan, a rough draft or the first paragraph. Anything over 450 words is probably constructed over more than one day. So I need to learn how to speed up then. - Andy Roberts
About an hour. 2 hours if it's in the 1200 word range. 3 hours if I'm unhappy with it and trying to improve/polish it up. Sheesh, now I'm starting to feel very underpaid. - Sarah Parker
Thanks guys, much appreciated - feeling like I'm running at about the right sort of rate now - I was feeling woefully slow :) - Andrew Garrett
Same as Darren. Some posts come out fully formed while others need to be crafted. - Sharon Hurley Hall
At least an hour for me. I am very picky with the words I use. :) - Maki
It depends but it could take me a month to do all the research and get the feeling to do the post! But sometimes I can get one down in 15 minutes if the material is in my head and the feeling is a Go! - Igor The Troll
Typically an hour for me as well. - Arachne Jericho
It can take anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours depending if I need to research and reference other blog posts and news articles. If it's an opinion post usually under an hour. - Maria Palma
It depends of the type of content. - Daniel Schildt
Recently started giving myself much stricter time limits on my social networking. That includes 45 minutes for a blog post. Lucky enough to type fast, so I can usually get something 500-700 words down on a page in rough format in short order, and that 45 minutes is in general OK for me to develop a post, edit it, and add imagery. - Robin Cannon
Depends on the type of content, if I need to do any research, and how in depth I want to get with it. If I'm writing off the top of my head, say in the event that I'd seen a post somewhere and it gave me an idea, then I can crank out 600 words in about 20 minutes or so. I've been known to take hours, especially when I'm saving and coming back to things. It's really a difficult question to answer I think though, because everyone's styles of writing and processes are so different. - Lara Kulpa