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Leo Laporte

One 32GB iPhone 3GS is on its way from Shenzhen China. Scheduled to arrive Thursday!

June 16 - Comment - Like - Share

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Yay! ;) - Peter Kruit

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Nice. I have to wait until July 12 :( - Jim Graham

Congrats! - Terje Mikal Espedal

Enjoy, Leo! - Sarah-Jane Gray

a day early? Awesome for you! - Jim Oxenford

Nice. You'll have to give us a good review. - Tom Silk

You are a sucker for incremental apple upgrades Leo but I love you all the same :) - David Lloyd

Drat! I ordered on the 9th and still no shipment :( Look forward to some first impressions :) - Richard Goodwin from twhirl

Jealous. Screw you leo! - ihateatmfees

Unfortunately I won't be able to get one until December. grr - Tony Buser

GIve us a good hands on review. Debating if I should upgrade as I hit one year with 3G on 7/12 - Alan Ashley

iPhone 3G S[orry its not a Palm Pre] - Palm Pre shootout? :) - jcunwired

Congrats!!! I want one so bad but I don't want to leave T-Mobile. - Eduardo Contreras

Jealous! - Duncan Rawlinson

@jcunwired: I played with a Pre. It's nice. iPhone will kick it's ass. Frankly, so will the new BB's which is what Palm seems to be targeting. - Adam C.

When did you place your 3G S order? I put mine in to Apple on June 10th, and it's not showing as shipped yet; trying to judge how fast they're processing... - Paul Skudlarek

Mine was scheduled to arrive on Wednesday. Checked again this morning and it changed to Thursday.. Let's see if it changes again to Friday. - Rick Huizinga

iPhone will undoubtedly kick its ass, at some point in the future. The delta is too small between Pre and 3G S to warrant an ass-whooping. - jcunwired

I can't wait!!! - Jerry Lee

Lucky you, we can't preorder in Canada :( - Ray Slakinski

Uh, not sure displaying your tracking number is a good idea. That's about all it takes when requesting a package redirection - and that's pretty tempting! - Anil Rhemtulla

Mine says it will arrive on the 17th, which is tomorrow. I don't know how, since it hasn't left china yet - Nate T

I'm scheduled for delivery on the 18th... order placed June 8th. God... sounds like a baby... Cheers - Ross W. Prout

Ordered mine on the 8th and no shipping notice yet. :-\ As for iPhone vs Pre, it'll take awhile to fully see how the apps change the Pre since that's the iPhone's key right now for me. - Ken Chan

When can we stop calling these phones? - David J Lowe

I'm taking a chance and heading to the Birmingham Apple Store Friday morning to get mine. Hope they have enough. - Dom Barnes

Me too. Mine says the 17th! - Wo

kewl - emoqix

Gonna pick up my pre-ordered one at the "T-Punkt" T-Mobile store here in Germany on Friday. Picked the same You did, unless You chose the white one, that is. Personally I especially can't wait for the tomtom car navigation set with exta speaker and GPS enhancer to finally come out - it's gonna be so awesome! - weckman

I got that message too! Woo hooo!! sooo excited, where's that UPS brown truck baby?!! party at the front door!! - Susan Beebe

P.S.: Don't You love world-wide rollouts? So much more fun when we all get it the same day! - weckman

That's so cool - ramiles from Alert Thingy

I ordered it from Apple around noon Pacific on June 9. - Leo Laporte

Mine, too. - Jim Cutler

Ordered mine same time on the 9th, but no ship yet. Is this another famous Leo Laporte "free and early access to garner a good review"? Screw you Leo! :) - Richard Goodwin

Is - ramiles from Alert Thingy

Very interested on your reports about the speed increase and if it makes a difference. I may get one in December when my contract is up for this old Moto Q. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

That's awesome Leo. My 3G will have to suffice though. Still looking forward to 3.0 - Joel Crawley

Anyone know how leo dealt w/ the AT&T contract/costs??? Just curious. I know he can afford to spend the extra for the phone, so that's not the question. - mark dekruyter

congrats, Leo! - Matthew Vaughan

How much did it cost? - Henrik Falk

See if it still has that date Leo. Mine disappeared. - Wo

My delivery date has just disappeared! It's beginning to look like UPS may hold the delivery until Friday. - Rick Huizinga

Wow, no 3G S for me only OS 3.0 update..waiting for the download - Gerard Marbeck

I'm really not understanding the i-phone thing. Frankly, I think the phone sucks. I hate the keyboard touch, I can't imagine a woman in this country with a decent manicure wanting to deal with that crappy screen! I have service at home with Verizon in the countryside where we live, my husband's crappy I-Phone drops out about ten miles from the house and not only that, the piece of crap is constantly dropping phone calls. Is the bay area better? - Jennifer Ragde

Boys like their toys, Jennifer. - Jeff

I love toys as well, I'm just not getting the I-phone thing, I have a DS, PSP, I'm a seriously geek game girl, just not getting that horrible phone. I can't be the only girl that thinks that touch screen is completely awful! The touch screen is so sensitive, if you have fingernails, good luck! - Jennifer Ragde

Clearly it's a counterfeit! - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

UPS is holding delivery on the iPhone 3GS until Friday: http://tinyurl.com/n8gr8o - Joshua Blevins

I envy you Leo! - Rahul Mirakhur

did u get it leo? details please! lol - Arnold

Leo Laporte to Leo's feed, TWiT Conversations

Live now, This Week In Tech with Denise Howell, Tom Merritt, Jeff Cannata, and Jason "Maverick" Calacanis. http://live.twit.tv Discuss here...

June 7 - Comment - Like - Share

Kishore Jeganathan, siouxmoux, Tyson Key and 150 other people liked this

first - Bruce Segal

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There we go - Ken Sheppardson

1k peeps in irc.twit.tv - Devin Baines

hey - Matthew

Thanks for remembering to ask for this Denise - Chris Heath

Lets do this thing - Jack

Wooo! - Lise

15+ likes already! - Gavin

hola - Mike Bracco

Greetings from Manila, Philippines! - Rom Feria

Yay - Andrew Johnson

Hold on to your butts - Roberto Bonini

ello ello ello - Jackson Pollock

yahoo - David Ginsburg

HAMMER TIME! - Jason Thompson

howdy - Denise Howell

"Thats what i like about it" Funny man leoo - Akshay Dodeja

hooray - Patrick D

Hello all - Dante Repko

Ello! - Robert

heyp - Sebastian

w00t there we go... Looking foward to this show - Chris

Hello - Doug

is this how I comment? - Myles Cloutier

Thanks for reminding Leo of Friendfeed Denise - Matthew

Will you be talking about WWDC? - nick

hello again :) - Zeeshan Virani

Bring back the stoagie - Zane Blandish

hello - jeffoneill

awesome - Aubrey_Ingraham

Lets do dis. - DivemasterDoug

Hello! - John Slanina

Hey Yo! - Roy Pledge

why is this better than irc? - Myles Cloutier

hi - Michael Mooney

Leo say FU again! - Garrett B. Rhodes

woohoo! - cchiango

Yay Palm Pre! ;) - Rob

Jeff Cannata FTW - Hasan Al Shehabi

OK, this is going to go through the roof on likes and comments... - Ken Sheppardson

for clean embed style chat with comment box at bottom (auto scrolling) http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Chris Heath

Excited for yet another amazing episode of twit! - John

here we go - Stephen Collins

first time here - Gus

Ok, let's get this started. - Mister IQ

That was a dumb remark - Gavin

this is slightly better than irc - Tim Trautmann

Kick the tires, light the fires - Tim Frasier

this is a lot harder to follow - Theodore Grabow

Leo, you should do Talkshoe for this show - Matthew

How is this better than IRC? - Henrik

on FF for first time in a "coon's age" this thing has gotten all javascripty! - James Britton

Hey hey!! - Randy Cornetta

This is way better than irc - Gavin

This is not difficult!! - MarK

Really cool to see Jeff Cannata on the show today. - Eric Florenzano

screw you! LOL - Alex Jordan

How do I use this?? - Bruce Wagner

@Henrik it's not - BryanSchuetz

Wow...haven't seen comments come in this fast... - Mike Bracco

iPhone Rumors please! - Roy Pledge

Liking, and searching - Gavin

Nice, I love BOL! - Bill Frater

miss dvorak - Alex Jordan

woo hoo - Brian Matthews

Henrik: It's archived ans searchable, for one thing - Ken Sheppardson

Don't miss the Pirate Party success in the EU election now :) - Ola Johansson

hello - Roman Milker

@Gavin does anyone really search comment transcripts? - BryanSchuetz

Whoa! My FriendFeed live feed is going crazy! - Mister IQ

whats the dif between this and chat - David Suro

السلام عليكم - TunisianGuy

Calacanis will do Dvorak impressions for those who miss him. - Kevykev

I am a college student and looking to attend the #140 conference and was wondering if you can please help me out in attending? - nathan

Doug is usually in here - Jackson Pollock

Hello all! - zephyrlily

yeah, pretty fast... - Bill Frater

live commenting - David Suro

Already the most entertaining in weeks & the show has just started! - Todd

Nice pre-show - Sergey Petrenko

the FF chat persists - Chris

TRS FTW! - Roy Pledge

hey peoples - Jason Calacanis

hey FFers, how do I make it so that there's always a comment window open for me in this thread? - Lise

FF is sticker than irc chat - Stephen Collins

If you want a clean window, with a comment box stuck open on the bottom, you can click on the timestamp of the entry twice, or just go to http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

searchable - Chris Heath

ITs as crazy as a chat line. :) - RALPH

Hope the show is as good as the preshow - Steve Dickey

yay Jeff ... moving on up ... :D - Zeeshan Virani

Using friendfeed For The First Time And It Looks Cool With The Ajax Stuff - nanochrome

Jeff Cannata is a cool guy - James Britton

howdy - mark dekruyter

I feel like i need 3 monitors to watch TWiT...one for the video, one for FriendFeed, one for the IRC... - John

Rofl, prenatal - Gavin

"Natal" means Christmas in Portuguese - Filipe Rodrigues

Hi Jason! - John

Preshow was good - Roberto Bonini

Too cool for Alex Albrecht anyway - James Britton

lol - Randy Cornetta

SCREW YOU! - Chris

I agree with Jason, this can be confusing sometime - Michael Ballack

Ken Sheppardson great tip thanks. - Walter McNabb

CALACANIS - nice little drama you had this past week with Fluther - http://blog.fluther.com/blog... - Mike Bracco

@Ken S: Thank you! - Lise

Play him off keyboard cat. - Rob

calacanis is leos wingman - Tobias Lewsadder

i keep having to scroll down a lot - nanochrome

Leo, you did the right thing with Mike Arrington. He TOTALLY deserved it! :) - Bruce Wagner

lol I knew it - Chris

PalmPre Schmiee, let's see what Apple shoots out tomorrow :) - Scott Graham

"screw you!" - Dakota O'Neill

Tom's wife is Eileen not Elaine - Doug Walker

we'll do it live - Jackson Pollock

Y'all see the Leo/Arrington Keyboard Cat?? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ken Sheppardson

Podcast listeners are not going to understand the whole "Screw You!" thing. - Mister IQ

This scrolling is crazy for this thread. It didn't used to be like this. Wow. I'm getting dizzy - Lise

i dont see the big fuss about ff - David Suro

It took an iPhone to produce the Palm Pre - Jay McCormack

pre - Kris Gustafson

this use of friendfeed comments is interesting/insane - Raymond M. Kristiansen

I actually think that the v1 Pre is better than v1 iPhone was - Gavin

Jason looks pimp - Bart

App's Are The Winner For The Iphone - nanochrome

Apple is going to totally eclipse the pre tommorrow - Roy Pledge

Leo, peeked at the new Instinct, more changes coming - Chris Miller

how do you get it to scroll fo ryou - Jackson Pollock

@gavin I would hope so :) - Akshay Dodeja

Roy: Agreed - Jay McCormack

apps for the pre are coming soon - Michael Benny

@Mister IQ: I think anyone who watches this show regularly has already heard about yesterday's debacle, heh. - Cory Roush

I'm waiting for a 1.1 WebOS before getting a Pre - Stephen Collins

G2 is what you're looking for Jason - Gavin

I don't have the numbers handy... can somebody remind me how many apps were in the iPhone app store the day it launched? - Ken Sheppardson

Isnt that the Samsung - Tom Ryder

It is the default for it to scroll. - Scott Ohlemacher

sounds like jason wants the nokia n97 - Mark Zip

But It Can Only Be Made With HTML CSS JAVASCRIPT - nanochrome

Palm should have built the app store for it sooner to make a better initial impact - Chris Miller

So, who wants to bet that even though Calacanis pushed the Arrington issue before the show, he'll bring it up again during the show. Arrington's a prick, apology or no... - James Britton

Thats called a payphone. - Tom Ryder

@Tom yes the Samsung - Chris Miller

I think Jason looks kind of like the actor that played Squiggy on Laverne & Shirley. - Sean Patrick Sengenberger

can I get more lines of scrolling - Troy S

Well could be in Canada - Greg

Palm should've done lots of things earlier. People forget that Palm has 900 employees vs Apples 35,000 - Ken Sheppardson

yeah - Roberto Bonini

HTML CSS Javascript is all you need for a phone app - Michael Benny

No - Gavin

@Cory Yes, but the listeners to the recorded podcast probably didn't hear about this. - Mister IQ

james it was already brought up, were you not watchin? - Chris Heath

It was all over digg - Scott Ohlemacher

I agree. I feel bad for the Pre because they're not going to get the coverage they deserve. - Lise

Apple comes with discounted apps, no slideout keyboard ever, enhanced OS and 2 iPhone hardware versions - Chris Miller

is there some way to have the comments scroll down from the top ranter than pushing off the screen? - BryanSchuetz

@chris heath, that was not during the show, it was before recording wasn't it? - James Britton

They better announce a new iPhone on Monday - Lise

+2 BryanSchuetz - Jackson Pollock

Apple definitely needs to do something amazing - Gavin

Yeah, the market has already "priced in" a new iPhone, so to speak. - Ken Sheppardson

Definately - Roberto Bonini

Apple will win by default - Jackson Pollock

Video phone, front-facing camera. - Colin

They better release OS 3.0 Monday - Roy Pledge

@Bryan try http://friendfeed.com/realtime - zephyrlily

I need apple to announce a new iphone - Kim Landwehr

james there was a lot of discussion before the show, but it was brought up when leo started talking about the pre - Chris Heath

@chris heath, guess i was too busy getting blinded by ff live stream here :) - James Britton

Roy Pledge: I don't think they will release it. - Mister IQ

And everyone says it charges very slow - Tom Ryder

A "win" for Palm isn't killing the iPhone, it's just selling Pres as fast as they can make them. - Ken Sheppardson

hmm that didint' help - BryanSchuetz

LOL @ leo throwing the stone charger - Lise

iPhone is from MARS - Pre is from VENUS. Pre works with fingernails. IPhone not so much! I'm told... - Todd

Video would be software - Gavin

sorry, http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - zephyrlily

2megapixels - Jackson Pollock

Is Jason flying a helicopter? - Eric Rice

I've gotten very good at using the iPhone keyboard, a lot better than I thought I would be - Matthew

video chat on new iphone will be a wow - BryanSchuetz

Can u tether the Pre? - Mike R

bg notifications are the bomb for the pre - Gavin

Mike R: I think no - Jay McCormack

"3" network phones in UK/Ireland all have front facing phones for video calling, US is so far behind on this feature - James Britton

Zephyrlily: I am using that in my Firefox sidebar, and it is going crazy with this TWiT live FF room. - Mister IQ

If you want this feed in a stand-alone pop-up anchored on an open comment box, try http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

The arrogant american mind. The pre is us only. Nobody outside the US gives a c*** - Jackson Pollock

zephyrlily, the realtime has been taken away for comments, right? - Matthew

Hi from the UK! - Najeeb Mirza

@Bryan Is is working now? - zephyrlily

The Pre will be a solid player in the market. - Jim Bednarz

Flinging a card up to close an app is very viceral on the pre - Michael Benny

Is Palm Pre really comparable to the iPhone? - Bruce Wagner

Thanks Jay@ - Mike R

zephrlily: I've never seen that page before. How long has that real time functionality been around? - Mike Bracco

Bruce: Absolutely - Ken Sheppardson

@Matthew I can still comment - zephyrlily

Doubt it. - Andre D.

That is sweet. - Roberto Bonini

Wow, awesome animation! - Gavin

"Screw You Leo" beer drinking game??? - Todd

@Zephyrlily @kens link worked - BryanSchuetz

Very Sweet - nanochrome

Lindsay: I think they will do multi-tasking on the new hardware. The 3G hardware won't be able to keep up - Jay McCormack

Lindsay: No, i don't. They are already releasing Push Notifications. - Mister IQ

zephyrlily, but the comments don't look like the old style, correct? - Matthew

Apple will do multitasking after they figure out music subscriptions and a real right click - Michael Benny

Blackberry easily shows the apps running,but even with the Palm you will have to learn which slide closes, puts in backgrond or uses - Chris Miller

@lindsay doubt it, push notifications only - James Britton

when is the next iphone coming out? - Bruce Wagner

You can get Everything 450 with the Pre... $70 - Ken Sheppardson

I dont think so, I think I came on after that - zephyrlily

The Iphone 3 Will Blow The Pre Out Of The World - nanochrome

Pre G1 iPhone - Roberto Bonini

hopefully they'll announce a new iPod Touch with a camera - Matthew

Canada will probably get Pre next year ;-) - Greg

Yeah I Want To Get A Ipod Touch - nanochrome

no Jonathan Ive team anywhere but at Apple - Jackson Pollock

I want the Apple Touch/Netbook so bad! - Mike R

Who puts a camera on a Touch!!!!!!????????? - Roberto Bonini

Can't understand why people like Blackberry's. BIS is horrible. - Andre D.

Canada gets the Pre later this year http://www.engadget.com/2009... - Ken Sheppardson

To Make It A Iphone Without A Phone - nanochrome

@Mike I think this is the older version - zephyrlily

So far, Palm Pre looks way better than Blackberry, I see it as 1. iPhone 2. Pre/WebOS 3. Blackberry 4. everyone else - James Britton

An iPod Touch with a camera would be awesome, then it can be used with all the camera apps on the app store - Matthew

"All we need is an open source iphone with a replaceable battery, multiple carriers, and a real slide-away keyboard." - Bruce Wagner

Matthew: probably not until September if it happens. Especially since the iPod event is in September. - Mister IQ

James: Where does andriod fit? - Jay McCormack

Bruce: thats a G1 - Roberto Bonini

what is the enterprise hook for palm pre? what sync app? activeSync? Push? - Chris Miller

Imagine webOS on iphone hardware - Jack

Mister IQ, last year they announced the new Touch in the summer, before it came out in September - Matthew

And A Mic In A Ipod Touch So Mic Apps All Work - nanochrome

My WinMo phone has an app to turn it into a wifi router - Michael Benny

I have a T-Mobile MDA and haven't upgraded because EDGE data is costing me $5 but if I got a new phone, it would be $25!, thats over $200 more per year! - Sean Flaherty

I'm sure we'll see webOS on different form factors withing 12 months... there's already a candybar in the works - Ken Sheppardson

@Jay throw Android in at number three (maybe tied with 2) and shove blackberry down - James Britton

Japan has HD video cell phones already! - Scott Hubble

Google gave out free phones at I/O - think Apple will do the same at WWDC? - Jesse Stay

Matthew: Still it may not be released until September by my guess. - Mister IQ

"apple has a tendency to make me drool" - Jay McCormack

how about a 3G macbook Air using a via cpu & ION platform - Michael Mooney

Mister IQ, I definitely agree with that - Matthew

it won't be a tablet either, it won't have a pen. - Jackson Pollock

@Ken Definitely. It makes no sense to switch over to Sprint. - Andre D.

Apple and a solid state tablet? - Chris Miller

Jesse: What plans did they 'give out' - Jay McCormack

Netbook???? - Roberto Bonini

Apple stone tablet - James Britton

what about the Crunch Tablet??????? - Matthew

Google gave out G2s with a pre-paid card - Ken Sheppardson

I think Jason C. is wrong, Apple is not going to release a Netbook - Akshay Dodeja

no, they said that they were looking at it, but only for research - Jackson Pollock

Jay, Google gave a month of free service with the phone for developers to play with. - Jesse Stay

The Crunchpad? - Greg Byrne

Apple will release a netbook, but it'll cost $1800 - Jay McCormack

netbooks are in their first year. apple never jumps on something that new. - Jackson Pollock

Apple TV in a TV? i doubt, but ok Calicanis... - Mister IQ

@matthew Arrington's not getting my money - James Britton

Perhaps our definateion of netbook is wrong. Jason explain what is the spec of Apple Netbook - Akshay Dodeja

I wish a CrucnchTablet! :D - Daynah

I agree..... A new revamped ATV is more likely - Roberto Bonini

It hadn't occured to me that Apple could do a *subsidized* small laptop... hm... - Ken Sheppardson

Crunch tablet looks good, and at $300 it would be a bargain, we'll see. - Matthew

I agree with Jay... - Daynah

James Britton: I still want a CrunchPad... - Mister IQ

The only way Apple would do a tablet-like machine, it would be with the iPhone OS - Jackson Pollock

why NETBOOKS SUCK - http://ff.im/3EMXY interesting take - Mike Bracco

10" Apple laptop with AT&T for $299 up front - Ken Sheppardson

I could never work on a netbook - Roberto Bonini

Jackson: That would be cool - Jay McCormack

Apple will never release a netbook with ATOM processor. - Akshay Dodeja

Is there a way to keep the twit.tv popout window always on top? - zephyrlily

zephyrlily: I use nvidia software to put any window on top - Jay McCormack

Apple Might Make a netbook but they will redefine what netbooks are - nanochrome

zephyrlily, you would probably have to have a separate app that does that for you - Matthew

Jackson Pollock: I hope it would have a full version of OS X. - Mister IQ

I think Apple might drop the price of AIR, the margins on - Akshay Dodeja

Steve hates pens and gloves and everything like that. They would never do a tablet with a pen, and never do a tablet without a pen, but with OSX. It will be a huge iPhone - Jackson Pollock

I tend to agree with Jeff Cannata about tablets, iPhone is a perfect size, just needs more power/storage/openness - James Britton

Would you read on a Kindle DX????? - Roberto Bonini

Who would want a giant iPhone? - Mister IQ

On a train route I take regularly with free wi-fi, at least half the people have laptops open. - Greg Byrne

AppleMan Bag - Chris Miller

The iManPurse - Mister IQ

The guy ahead of me in line for Pre Saturday morning had a Kindle. First time I'd seen one in person. I'm tempted. - Ken Sheppardson

Mister IQ: If it was a beautiful screen, more power, yes! - Jay McCormack

@Jay @Matthew Ok, thanks - zephyrlily

Apple tablet will be just as sucessful as the Apple Hi-Fi speaker system - Michael Benny

I think he is right - Akshay Dodeja

that sony thing is ridiculous - Matthew

That'll be the big news from Apple this week: a new line of bags - Ken Sheppardson

LOL you guys are killing me with the purse jokes - Roberto Bonini

Yea for Man Purses! :D We can accessorize together. :) - Daynah

INET - nanochrome

Dear Jason, you know which platforms already have the turn-it-into-a-wifi-hotspot app you described? Windows Mobile and Symbian. For months. - Vlad Bobleanta

iBook - Jim Bednarz

tom's exactly right - Chris Heath

Mister IQ. They would never do that. if an engineer gave Steve a touchscreen devise that you have to hit a tiny little red x in a corner to exit an app, he would throw it out the window. It has to have a touchscreen OS. - Jackson Pollock

I'm so proud of them, they haven't mentioned twitter once! - Curtis

They're not going to release a Netbook unless there is some sort of developer focus. Remember this is a dev conference. - Jesse Stay

@Ken Thinking about it now, I've yet to see one in person. - 321

Macbook Air Touch???? - Roberto Bonini

OK, maybe...but i would prefer OS X - Mister IQ

hmm just realized I can route all the comments here to chat through ff@chat.friendfeed.com - BryanSchuetz

And there's our title "The Manpurse" - Aaron T. Harvey

I can see a convertible tablet Air - Ken Sheppardson

the iPhone OS is built from OSX. - Jackson Pollock

Ahh this long Friendfeed chat is getting annoying, I wish I could invert it and have the message box on top. - Akshay Dodeja

yeah and the ATV runs it as well - Roberto Bonini

sorry not the chat itself, but the scrolling part. - Akshay Dodeja

Akshay: Try this view - http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

Apple will never make anything with a pen or a hinge that you rotate. It breaks with every one of Dieter Rams' rules of good design. - Jackson Pollock

if you open it in a second window the comments will scroll up from the comment box - BryanSchuetz

@ken that was really helpful. How do we find these embed links ourselves? - Lise

@Ken thanks! Much better! :) - Akshay Dodeja

@ken thanks - Jackson Pollock

kshep: oh thanks, that view is waaaay better. wish it was default. - Vlad Bobleanta

Leo should start a FF post for comments during WWDC for people @ WWDC to liveblog and others to chat. - Mister IQ

Lisa: Click on the entry timestamp once to get it by itself on a page, click on it again for a pop-out. - Ken Sheppardson

Leo your Twitter Calacanis.... [pic] Link leads to a File Not Found Error page - Erle Stride

correct me if wrong... but no one on the shows monitors this right? - Jay McCormack

Looks like Bing already lost its #2 spot to Yahoo: http://tcrn.ch/3K5 - Cory Roush

@ken thank you! - Lise

FriendFeed's a really slick way to live blog announcements. A room/group dedicated to WWDC would be slick - Ken Sheppardson

Leo does, not sure about the others - Hipp from IM

ken leo will be live streaming some sort of apple coverage tomorrow iirc (there should be a twit-conversation for it) - Chris Heath

Will It Be A New One...... - nanochrome

What time is WWDC tomorrow? - Jesse Stay

0900 am - Jackson Pollock

Let me guess... only in the US? - Jay McCormack

Yup - Roberto Bonini

PST - Roberto Bonini

mmm so now I have the FF chat window in front of my twit live view. this is awesome. - Lise

or 4am the day after where i am - nanochrome

Thank you to Mahalo, oops SquareSpace - Chris Miller

no, i mean a #squarespace iphone prize only in the US. - Jay McCormack

Too bad I'm working while WWDC is going down. I'll monitor the MacRumors feed - Roy Pledge

I gotta get up for work in 6 hours - Jackson Pollock

They're making developers get up at 9am? - Jesse Stay

LOL - nanochrome

Hey... we had to get up at 7am for Google I/O. lol - Daynah

@Jesse: It's day one, they wont be hungover yet - Roy Pledge

Daynah hmmm...maybe it was good I stayed home. :-) - Jesse Stay

Jesse: The keynote is 10:00AM Pacific - Ken Sheppardson

Ken ah, that's much better - 11am my time :) - Jesse Stay

3am here - Jay McCormack

Wake up, open the laptop, and listen - Jesse Stay

That Merritt is one smart cookie! :-) - Hipp from IM

I wish I could see the FriendFeed chat next to the video of this - Jesse Stay

@jessestay I have it running side by side in iChat - Hipp from IM

Yeah good idea jesse - Roberto Bonini

IT DOES LEO: after a threshold, ads get thrown out of system - Mike Bracco

The creepy dancing Six Flags guy - Ken Sheppardson

Jason the digg blog that announced (http://blog.digg.com/?p=808) digg ads says "Conversely the more an ad is buried, the more the advertiser is charged, pricing it out of the system." - russtbarnacle

@Jesse, popout the twit.tv and put it next to your FF window - zephyrlily

zephyrlily I know how to do that - that's not what I was referring to. :-) - Jesse Stay

Jason is full of it, people will watch good ads... Superbowl anyone? - Roy Pledge

@jesse I'm sure when (if?) Wave comes out, Leo will do that. - Vlad Bobleanta

Bing takes over Yahoo, wihtout much effort. all advertising - Chris Miller

hehe - Roberto Bonini

yo friendfeed peeps - ralphsaunders

I am really surprised how good Bing is - Michael Mowery

These new ads on Digg are going to be annoying because Adblock won't be able to block them. - 321

What up Ralphy! - Hipp from IM

I use Bing to find blog images now - Jesse Stay

the map thing for bing is really hard to use - ralphsaunders

hi hipp :D - ralphsaunders

321, but they'll be just like another digg post and non-instrusive - Chris Heath

I been using Bing and its not bad - Kim Landwehr

I don't think Bing is doing well regionally beyond the US. i can't get the map stuff to work in Australia. - Jay McCormack

But Google Is Better And I Don't Like Going To Any Microsoft Site - nanochrome

Bing 's reign as Number 2 search engine ends after one day - @TechCrunch - http://bit.ly/sEHTW - Todd

bing = because it's not google or bing is not google - Holger Eilhard

Even if BING is great, what is the compelling reason to use anything other than Google which IS great and I am really comfortable with already? - Joel Asaro

I'm very impressed with Bing. I haven't used Google since Bing come out. - Joseph Ferris

Joel: Agreed... there's just not enough to move accross to it - Jay McCormack

That's the problem it good but there is nothing about Bing that makes people want to use it over Google - Kim Landwehr

The video preview is a thumbnail, how can Denise expect you to watch a video in a search result in total - Jay McCormack

Bing; how about not showing previews of short videos. problem solved - Roberto Bonini

True - nanochrome

how do they pull relevance - Chris Miller

Does bing do that for Youtube videos??? - Roberto Bonini

I Don't Think So - nanochrome

Bing beats out Yahoo, cuz it's the only pre-installed search on the new Explorer!! - Alex

http://www.instantrimshot.com - Ken Sheppardson

Leo: Groan - Roy Pledge

Nice work digitalkitty http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Erle Stride

I Didn't Know That - nanochrome

@holger I prefer But It's No Google - Lise

Its not supposed to be google - Roberto Bonini

well then mission accomplished - Lise

http://www.instantrimshot.com - Ken Sheppardson

This is the same issue over and over again. It's not the technology's responsibility to not watch inappropriate content (porn or violence or whatever). It's the parent's responsibility to instill the right values in the child. - Jay McCormack

And now we all know... - Jesse Stay

See! Leo has done a good job educating his kids to look at the right stuff - Jay McCormack

Where is everyone going for WWDC coverage? - Mister IQ

is WWDC going to be streamed, or will it only be for download after the fact - Matthew

@Chris That's true, but I would personally rather just see user-generated content without the advertising. At least Digg is doing it much better, as long as they clearly disclose what is advertisement, than banner ads and popups. - 321

Bing video search does show youtube videos - Kim Landwehr

@Master IQ: I'll be following MacRumors - nick

Poorngle - zephyrlily

Permitted content is tolerated different in each counrtry I visit fow work. makes intresting browsing - Chris Miller

Matthew: Only for download, unfortunatly. - Mister IQ

MacRumors... Assuming the feed doesn't egt hacked again - Roy Pledge

Aaargh!... - Jesse Stay

@Matthew Several sites will be live blogging the event, Apple will probably put up a video later in the day. - 321

yeah. Apple provides a video pdcast feed to subscribe to in iTunes. - Roberto Bonini

'tis a Mutiny, me mateys! - Jesse Stay

Arrrrrr, matey..... Dont no one say parley!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

How about Balmer not liking US tax proposals? ... - Xenophrenia

Leo: ask Denise about the developements in the Jammie Thomas / Nessor case too, plz - Hipp from IM

he should have simply gone to just take over that account - Chris Miller

LOL Jason. Exactly - Lise

it is already settled right? (from here in St Louis) - Chris Miller

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1... - Adrian

they said it wa pulled and settled with the donatio. HE made no statement boutactually using twitter and actually RUNNINg his account - Chris Miller

Exactly - that case has already been lost in court. Tony needs a better lawyer. - Jesse Stay

Twitter starts verified accounts soon, problem solved. - Jay McCormack

actually it wasnt lost. Twitter didnt say "guilty" but settled already - Chris Miller

did Jason just screw up? - Jay McCormack

Quick MG! Word's out.. - Jesse Stay

Ooops Jason? LOL! - John

it is one of their monetization moves. fees for payment system - Chris Miller

Payment and Authentication for twitter is a good idea. - Jay McCormack

who becomes the digital banker? and what happenes when the twitter bank is down? - Chris Miller

who owns their name on twitter? their real full name? - Lise

sorry bank closed, twitter is down - Chris Miller

Chris: Fail whale becomes a MUCH bigger issue... right - Jay McCormack

I do - Cory Roush

Twitter is the banker, and gets a cut: business model - Greg Byrne

Would that be a Fail Safe? - Hipp from IM

ha - Chris Miller

Hard work... it's taken PayPal years to get it right - Jay McCormack

Exactly when did PayPal get it right? - Roy Pledge

LOL @ clinton and cigar. Did anyone get that? - Lise

Would be nice if they bring back their old features they took away because their infrastructure couldn't handle them before they try to add new ones. - Ken Sheppardson

Of the many payment options, it's easy, it works, it's international, it might be expensive, but it does work. - Jay McCormack

he didnt make any intention to even use or expand no the account, he just wanted it down - Chris Miller

yeah ken, but you and i know that's not a technical problem - Chris Heath

@Lise: I laughed, but then felt guilty because no one seemed to find it funny :P - Cory Roush

Have you ever tried to contact Twitter support? - Jesse Stay

@Ken I agree. I'm still upset about this whole @ reply feature - Lise

You have to have TechCrunch to write about it for them to listen that you are being impersonated. - Jesse Stay

@Cory I don't think anyone got it. lol - Lise

@Jesse: Yes, and it was one of the most frustrating processes I've ever went through. - Cory Roush

Bing is no longer the #2 search engine. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Mister IQ

Facebook is the same - Jesse Stay

Couldn't Open ID help that? - Brian Allen

Didn't myspace have a process for this also? - Jay McCormack

so registering TherealLeo (like Dvorak did) makes it legit? hang on.. ok kidding - Chris Miller

We got our twitter account back, /sixflags - sean andersen

Today I was followed by a fake Paul Thurrott. Where is the "Report" button? - Greg Byrne

Tony didn't bring cupcakes. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken ROFL! - Jesse Stay

Tony La Russo's 501c3: It's NOT about adoptions; it's about DONATIONS. Donations might be affected by something like a Twitter account, especially in the future. - shelter watch

I guess this means Tony's not getting on the Featured users list - Jesse Stay

@JasonC you look cute as Maverick! I say keep the look. You don't need the cigar, though. - Lise

Lise: he needs a cap or something to finish the look - Jay McCormack

600 people want an iPhone - Jay McCormack

That's more than 140charcaters. - Ken Sheppardson

he needs a jet - zephyrlily

Bill Gates did talk about this at D5 tho, people forget - Jackson Pollock

Natal can recognize 48 points of motion compared to the PS3's 2, plus you know Natal will work with Windows 7 - Matthew

Natal combined with the new controller Sony showed would be pretty slick. - Ken Sheppardson

Felicia Day looks good with anything! :-P - Hipp from IM

watch the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs interview from D5. Bill talked about it and was laughed out because people thought he meant the Wii interface - Jackson Pollock

Shane Kim said that releasing Natal in the spring would be "aggressive". So they still have a year or more to work on it. - Matthew

no, the eyetoy is not the same as Natal - Matthew

Using the newer tech like this in an arcade environment with a wrap-around screen would be interesting - Ken Sheppardson

That new PS3 controller demo Sony did was sweet! - Scott Hubble

here's a video of the company MS acquired to work on Project Natal..... http://gear.ign.com/dor... - Matthew

How long after release will it take for some Sicko to make Milo Naked - Erle Stride

it's a video of their Z-Cam - Matthew

The press has completely missed the navigation piece of Natal...did you see the minority report style menu conteol and the voice control of teh video playback? - Rob

Wii's just integrating acceleration to get position. The Sony controller actually measures the position of the controller, doesn't it? - Ken Sheppardson

I want 3D games with those controllers - Jesse Stay

MS will put Natal on Windows as well, so Minority Report type interface is possible when this comes out - Matthew

Lindsay: All chats on FriendFeed are real time. - Nicholas James

what if they added skype to xbox using natal - Michael Mooney

Time to resurrect VRML :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Lindsay: Just create a post, and let people comment. - Mister IQ

Lindsay: Twitter doesn't even come close to this. - Nicholas James

ah found the official court filing record of Tony La Russo against twitter - Chris Miller

http://bit.ly/An2Lf - Chris Miller

Chris: It just gave them an excuse to roll out part of their business model ;) - Nicholas James

And an increase in feet through TV screens ensues - Jesse Stay

nobody uses voice on the PS3 online games - Matthew

How is that detecting body motion? - zephyrlily

What's the state of the art in head-mounted displays these days? - Ken Sheppardson

Its all about Xbox Live ;) - Nicholas James

I think there's a lot of younger people wanting to play the Beatles - Lise

anyone else having audio/video issues over the last 10 minutes? - detorn

What about Alan Wake? - nick

Lise: I disagree, I don't think there are a lot of young people who WANT to play the Beatles - Nicholas James

it's the software plus specialized chips in the device, zephyrlily - Matthew

James: It's been fine for me - Nicholas James

No, you might want to try refreshing or going to Stickam or uStream - Mister IQ

James: fine here - Jay McCormack

did all three IQ, tried different browser too - detorn

lmao at keyboard cat - Hipp from IM

eh, getting better, odd. thanks all - detorn

I don't know then, you may have bandwidth issues or may need to reboot. - Mister IQ

Scribblenauts sounds great for kids. - Denise Howell

what game did Jeff mention? - zephyrlily

you can also have dracula, and then write in vampire hunter and he will obviously kill dracula - Matthew

scribblenauts - Matthew

Scribblenauts looks amazing, I may have to check that out. - Patrick Sullivan

Thanks, gotta look that one up - zephyrlily

I typed Palm Pre into the demo and cash payment fell onto the screen - Chris Miller

only iphone has motion controls - Matthew

does the DS have an accelorometer? - Matthew

DS can add a "motion pack" in its second slot, acts as one. - Denise Howell

If you type in Twitter the Fail Whale comes up - Jesse Stay

Is Scribblenauts for DS and DSi or just DSi? - Mister IQ

The new DS only has one slot, no GBA slot - Matthew

the DSi - Matthew

I haven't bought DS games since I've had the iTouch - zephyrlily

I love my iPod Touch, it is my first apple product - Matthew

:-) Yes, it was a joke - Jesse Stay

I'm so getting Scribblenauts. - Filipe Rodrigues

I missed something. The game is... you write stuff, and stuff pops up? - Ken Sheppardson

:-) - Ken Sheppardson

i think so ken - Chris Heath

Anyone attending the #140 conference in NYC i would love to attend! you guys hear about this? - nathan

Ken, yes, I believe - it supposedly has a huge database of objects - Jesse Stay

kshep: It's a puzzle game where stuff helps you. - Mister IQ

ken, it's like a platformer, and you can bring in whatever you want to help solve the levels/puzzles - Matthew

Ah... gotcha - Ken Sheppardson

You know what drives me mad! "Fall 09" as a release date. Just watched the scribblenauts video, says available Fall 09. 1: Fall = Autumn for me, 2: When is Autumn? Each hemisphere has autumn at different times of the year! Argghhhhh! - Jay McCormack

"Fall" = Q4, IMHO - Ken Sheppardson

jay McCormack, it means it will be available for the holidays - Matthew

Matthew... again a problem. We have "holidays" throughout the year here. - Jay McCormack

christmas time - Matthew

it's a terminology thing: How hard is it to say Q4 2009. - Jay McCormack

winter usually means early 2010, or whatever the case may be - Matthew

You see my winter starts in April - Jay McCormack

Yeah, but yours is wrong, Jay. - Ken Sheppardson

i 'can' work it out, but it yet another US centric thing - Jay McCormack

It's broken. - Ken Sheppardson

tom sets the record straight - Chris Heath

Ken: LOL - Jay McCormack

yes, it's US centric - Matthew

Upside down. - Ken Sheppardson

But as an ex-Lobbyist, doesn't that make him even more qualified to serve? - Hipp from IM

jay q1 is winter january, feb, march - Chris Heath

fall usually means in time for people to buy it for x-mas - Matthew

You only think I'm Jesse Stay... - Jesse Stay

Chris, q1 is Summer, Jan through March - Jay McCormack

Q4 also means january - Matthew

Sorry... i'll stop nw - Jay McCormack

at least fiscally - Matthew

jay, you must be in the southern hemisphere - Chris Heath

Oh good lord, no - Aaron T. Harvey

Chris: Australia - Jay McCormack

Just say "Yes", Jason :-) - Ken Sheppardson

ten-four - Chris Heath

Chris: But i do live on planet earth. - Jay McCormack

twip = this week in poker with host jason - Chris Miller

Go Norm - Jackson Pollock

NORM ! ! ! - Matthew

Jason was playing it up with all the celebrities out here at Sundance this year. - Jesse Stay

Hey denise can i please ask you a question that you can ask the TWIT lovers for me? - nathan

as in MacDonald - Matthew

twia = this week in audible with your host Jason - zephyrlily

who needs a punchline, when you have the world crackwh... - Jackson Pollock

word* - Jackson Pollock

Disclosures Jason? ;-) - Jesse Stay

I think all the twit regulars get free audible accounts - Jay McCormack

I'm a twit regular... oh, you mean on the show. - Lise

ah - that would explain his enthusiasm. That said I like audible too. - Jesse Stay

i don't know about that jay, leo may have got a few free accounts to give out - Chris Heath

Lise: LOL - Jay McCormack

They talked about it about 12 months ago i think. - Jay McCormack

Turn It Up A Bit - nanochrome

audible has been TWiT's best advertiser/sponsor - Chris Heath

Bad mix Leo - Roy Pledge

NOOOOOOOO - Aaron T. Harvey

please, Jason does the worst Christopher Walken - Matthew

Audible definitely lives up to the hype that Leo and friends put on it - Doug

This is where we need Dvorak - Aaron T. Harvey

it needs more cowbell - zephyrlily

Christopher Walken should sue.... - Roy Pledge

don't quit your dayjob. you're no craig gass - Jackson Pollock

he's no Jay Mohr - Matthew

my god... calicanus reminds me of my father - Jay McCormack

Turn It Up Leo - nanochrome

Ricky Gervais too - Simon Wicks

didn't hear that one Leo - zephyrlily

Can't hear anything Leo! - Colin Clarke

ustream is fine - Chris Heath

http://ustream.tv/channel... - Chris Heath

Probably the channel he was doing caller audio on this morning. - Ken Sheppardson

What about xp upgrade? - Jay McCormack

Yeah - nanochrome

Thanks to #audible for supporting #TWiT :-) - Mister IQ

I get the employee discount from my friend at Microsoft - Jesse Stay

Much better in VM from our tests - Chris Miller

I so wanna try Android on my Wind - Hipp from IM

Luckily You - nanochrome

Windows 7 is awesome, can't see how Android would be that popular on netbooks - Matthew

The $50 upgrade to Win7 was VERY encouraging. - Cory Roush

Is it black shirt day today? - zephyrlily

When is Microsoft just going to release a browser for the 360? I don't understand their holdback. - Jesse Stay

Via Kiwinerd: Leo Screw You Ringtone: http://bit.ly/RLPox - Mister IQ

Leo, the newest dashboard for the Xbox (NXE) lets you install your games to the hard drive, and it barely makes a sound. The fans don't make that much noise, it's the DVD drive that makes all the sound due to wanting short load times - Matthew

The streaming HD on the TiVo Netflix interface is beautiful! - Aaron T. Harvey

I think that ringtone should have Keyboard Cat as a backing track instead. - Ken Sheppardson

yay FF - Lise

Love ya Denise ! - Matthew

Nice to see you today Denise! - Jesse Stay

Is there a good Iphone app for friendfeed ? - Marcos Detry

Marcos: I haven't found one yet - Jay McCormack

wooo @ everyone come in - Lise

Everybody who has ever been on the show. - Ken Sheppardson

The FriendFeed mobile site on the iPhone is good - Aaron T. Harvey

Have a big giant party show! - Mister IQ

@Marcos Nambu is free does FF and Twitter - zephyrlily

why do I have to scroll back up to click comment.... am I missing something ? - John Hillestad

ROFL!!!! - Jesse Stay

@John http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - zephyrlily

what's Dans twitter? heh - Lise

I'm dying here! - Jesse Stay

LOL Screw you! - Lise

awesome! - Chris Heath

Needs Keyboard Cat in the background - Ken Sheppardson

Too funny - Roy Pledge

Paulywood FTW - Hipp from IM

@Marcos: Have you tried BuddyFeed? - Cory Roush

Keyboard Cat Remix http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ken Sheppardson

thanks zeph - John Hillestad

lol arrington - Lise

200th episode is on Father's Day! - Doug Slater

lol Denise - Hipp from IM

Throw in Christian Bale - Ken Sheppardson

I can't stop giggling - Lise

I JUST POSTED the Calacanis Audible Love Dance...haha - http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Mike Bracco

I think Chritian Bale vs. Leo would remix pretty well... - Ken Sheppardson

use Ustream Lindsay - Matthew

nice show! - Bill Frater

Starting to think this is a media stunt. - Jay McCormack

Lindsay - Matthew

Linsday: Can't you just hit 'enter' - Jay McCormack

Keyboard cat plays Mike off on youtube - zephyrlily

whoops, Lindsay you can hit enter - Matthew

I'm out - gotta go kill a wasp nest (wife's yelling at me). See you guys later... - Jesse Stay

It's not really a chat engine - Aaron T. Harvey

I don't think Michael was the only person who was supposed to get a review unit Friday and didn't. I suspect there were logistical issues. - Ken Sheppardson

It works great within iChat or Google Talk - Hipp from IM

It's stuck between real time chat and blog-type comments - Aaron T. Harvey

A very large screen! - Aaron T. Harvey

Go Jason; Pogue IS an embarrassment - Jay McCormack

I heard that some of the Best Buy stores didn't even get the Pres in until Saturday afternoon - Doug

ratings ratings ratings - Chris Heath

Molly for the muthaflippin' win - Matthew

Pogue and Buzz Out Loud - http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10... - Ken Sheppardson

LOL @ jason C is in fact white - Lise

lol - ralphsaunders

LOL @ playing the tune so they can capture it for the youtube video - Lise

Man Purse! - Aaron T. Harvey

http://www.instantrimshot.com - Ken Sheppardson

sorry - Ken Sheppardson

hey-oo - Chris Heath

heeheehheheeh - ralphsaunders

140 likes. FF is TWiT country - David Lloyd

burger king - John Hillestad

make that one mroe :P - ralphsaunders

Love the Show!!! - Dante Repko

Well, I'm out folkses... food time! :-) - Hipp from IM

it needed a few F bombs - John Hillestad

Leo, her name is Eileen not Elaine - Colin Clarke

colin he does that sometimes... - Chris Heath

colin, at least he's close - Chris Heath

Lindsay: 9a Pacific, 12p Eastern - Mister IQ

leo i have to leave for work a 8pm gmt will be finished - Michael Mooney

thought Leo said 10 pst am - John Hillestad

okay backpack - Lise

The WWDC Keynote is at 10AM Pacific - Ken Sheppardson

Chris , True. - Colin Clarke

Is Pirillo gonna be there / - John Hillestad

hopefully not - David Lloyd

Well the calendar says 9a Pacific - Mister IQ

there wont be a live video feed of the keynote - David Lloyd

looks pretty fine - John Hillestad

is this a green screen? - David Lloyd

"The Apple Worldwide Developers Conference 2009 will kick off with a keynote address on Monday, June 8 at 10:00 a.m. A team of Apple executives, led by Phillip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing, will deliver the keynote address" -- http://developer.apple.com/wwdc... - Ken Sheppardson

anyone watching twit live? is this a green screen shot or are they at WWDC? - David Lloyd

I'd expect to see a bunch of liveblogging during the keynote, ala http://friendfeed.com/iphone-... - Ken Sheppardson

looks good - John Hillestad

im so confused lol - David Lloyd

the footbally thing - Lise

Leo, where will it be streamed? - Matthew

6:00PM this evening for me :D - ralphsaunders

LOL Leo - Lise

HAHAHA @ the secret plan broadcast live - Lise

Leo, i agree 5-star TWiT today - Chris Heath

Great show Leo - zephyrlily

what happened yesterday? - mark pompeo

I am trying my best to learn how to use friendfeed but, I can't say I like friendfeed as much as leo does... here's to trying it again! - flashtrader

Here's a q&d of Calacanis' jig with audio added http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Phil Maxwell

i like how it auto-updates - Brian Harper

Great Show Leo! - Eric B

@Mark http://www.youtube.com/watch... - zephyrlily

That keyboard cat sure gets alot of work these days even in the afterlife - siouxmoux

Glad to see one of the TRS guys on the show. TWiT gets better and better..oh and screw you Arrington! - Ryan Tiffany

ready! - Shannon Burns

All I can say..I don't use ringtones and I would use that screw you one... - Samuel Lewis from twhirl

Another great TWiT. - Adi

Leo WWDC FF please - Erle Stride

Leo no audio in the live video of alex and justine! - Clayton Borah

if Jonathan didn't show up there, he won't at all unless there's a new category in the mac lineup at the end. - Jackson Pollock

this dude is broadcasting live http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jackson Pollock

it's like a kid having opened his first presents on christmas eve, saying; it's early, it's early, I have many left - Jackson Pollock

People forget Lion, Liger, Tigon et - Jackson Pollock

etc* - Jackson Pollock

I am hearing them fine - Jackson Pollock

Wow, 6GB freed space in Snow Leopard. - Mister IQ

handwriting recognition for the trackpad - Jackson Pollock

might mean tablet - Jackson Pollock

That pretty much means tablet as far as I'm concerned. In terms of touch, the trackpad on a macbook is the same hardware as the iphone/possible mac tablet - Jackson Pollock

Well, Quicktime has been the same for the last 3-4 versions more or less - Jackson Pollock

That's not an Apple ad Leo - Jackson Pollock

They're previewing quicklook - Jackson Pollock

Guys that's not expose, that's quick look you were talking about. - Trevor

Very not authorized. - Jackson Pollock

I'm thinking it's $29. It is an incremental update - Jackson Pollock

OPEN SOURCE. OPENCL - Jackson Pollock

That's such a nice move. This will make it explode the way it should. - Jackson Pollock

What they're saying is that they're an option to the Windows horror - Jackson Pollock

$129 - Jackson Pollock

*$29 - Jackson Pollock

iPhone time - Jackson Pollock

here is working stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jackson Pollock

Yes, 50k "apps" - *cough* - Trevor

video about streaming video on iphone going on right now - Jackson Pollock

@Jackson Thanks:) just started watching it - zephyrlily

the Jokemaster Jr - Jackson Pollock

NOW here we go - Jackson Pollock

there we go - Jackson Pollock

Price? no price. It uses your phone data plan - Jackson Pollock

Later this summer he said - Jackson Pollock

And that's why they laughed - Jackson Pollock

Its also streaming on twit.tv with Leo on - zephyrlily

yes correct - Jackson Pollock

hey it's R2D2 - Jackson Pollock

to 10k people? don't think so - Jackson Pollock

riiiight. everyone has an iphone, sure - Jackson Pollock

but not a impluasible situation. look at what collages are doing with the Kindle DX - Roberto Bonini

look what 0.5% of colleges in the US only are doing - Jackson Pollock

here comes the 20 minute demoes - Jackson Pollock

The WWDC chat is here http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs - Jackson Pollock

twit.am is down? - Dave

Yikes, are the streams down? - Mister IQ

Leo Laporte

PuTTY - http://wakoopa.com/softwar...

May 31 from Wakoopa - Comment - Like - Share

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Leo you use Putty? - Jesse Stay

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Use PuTTY constantly. Great network utility. - Chuck

this is really cool Leo - Richard Thomson

putty -ssh host.ftw - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Is there anything of the quality of Terminal.app or iTerm on Windows? - Paul Grav

@Paul: In Windows world remote connections/administration are done through Remote Desktop or through API calls with PowerShell or Admin Tools (MMC). I never need to ssh/telnet anywhere - except very rarely to some *nix and for that there is Putty. - Jemm

I work in a Windows world and I have plenty of *nix boxes that I need to ssh into, and Putty sucks. - Paul Grav

paul: whatever works. you have a choice - http://www.openssh.com/windows... - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

I'm open to suggestions. What terminal software is better than PuTTY for Windows? - Leo Laporte

There is no better. Portable, fast, simple ... what else do you need? - Mike Roberts

why settle for something inferior just because you're using windows? put windows into a VM on a REAL OS, and then you can use big boy tools like terminal.app :) - Nate

Ugh fanbois... - Adi

I wouldn't go so far as to call Nate a fanboy... He's just overlooking the obvious fact that as big a PITA as putty is, it's still easier than booting a virtual machine. Because of unavoidable circumstances, I have to use windows on 1 machine I use. I do boot ubuntu in a VM when I know I'm gonna have to do some real work and can't get to another box. The long and short of it is that I... more... - Justin Hopkins from twhirl

putty is a mainstay, but there are some advantages to a free tab-based SSH client in Windows such as Poderosa: http://en.poderosa.org/ Unfortunately, Poderosa hasn't been updated in quite some time and it has some really bad keyboard choices for copy/paste. - Professor Messer

it's not fanboiism, it's using the right tool for the job. I have a windows VM open all day at work because in my experience nothing beats Beyond Compare, and I need to test IE anyway. Yes BC is available on linux, but VMWare just has better Windows support. And yes, I am sshed into my linux servers all day. - Nate

Ponderosa does look promising, I'll give it a try. - Justin Hopkins

My work boxes and laptop are linux or mac, but when I have to ssh from a windows box putty is my answer. - Eric Standlee

Leo: BitWise Tunnelier -WAY better. Same "dos box" limitations, more versatile - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

Leo: just as good maybe better: CygWin, use the bash that comes with it, and use ssh from the bash prompt. - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

Leo Laporte

Question for you all. I have a trademark for TWiT® - first used in May 2005, trademark applied for May 2006 and registered March 2007. The trademark is in "Entertainment in the nature of visual and audio performances, and musical, variety, news and comedy shows." http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin...

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Up until now there's been no conflict with Twitter itself because the brands were in different arenas. (We have, however, sent out cease and desist letters to companies using "twit" in their name and doing audio or video). But now Twitter is doing a TV show. The confusion between TWiT and Twitter is mounting. What do I do? Defend my mark? Or let my brand be swallowed by the big guy (even though we were first by several years)? I need your advice. What does the community think? - Leo Laporte

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Defend your trademark, 99% of people will totally understand, you have to do it, or you'll loose it! - Chris Lloyd

Defend it. People that watch Twit Tv will also defend it. - Jason Rundell

Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Does TWIT still stand up as an accurate brand for all the new stuff you are doing with TWIT Live? Might be time to find a new visual/brand identity. - BryanSchuetz

At the SF MusicTech conference a lawyer called "tweets" "twits" repeatedly. Let's just say I think you should defend your mark and let TV chew up and spit out twitter. - Richard pancakhaus Walker

I don't see how the brand of Twitter infringes on your trademark. Plus trademarks are an outdated ideal. You need to market and promote your brand and the people will come. - Bob Blunk

Bryan: The TWiT name carries alot of weight in tech circles, it will take alot of money/time/effort to make a completely new name for something that will probably outlast twitter anyway - Chris Lloyd

Incidentally, Twitter just got their trademark approved May 11, 2009 in the following "Telecommunication services, namely, providing online and telecommunication facilities for real-time interaction between and among users of computers, mobile and handheld computers, and wired and wireless communication devices; enabling individuals to send and receive messages via email, instant... more... - Leo Laporte

There is nothing ideal about any aspect of IP law. - Richard pancakhaus Walker

Chris: I think Leo's name carries more weight than TWIT and (for me at least) he IS TWIT so I don't see it as quite such a big deal. - BryanSchuetz

Of course, there's a larger long-term problem because of the way that Twitter has weakened _your_ brand. It might be less expensive (and a better use of your time) to rebrand TWiT into something that strengthens your brand and moves it away from Twitter; avoiding any future problems (and there will be future problems). You can't fight Oprah. - Professor Messer

I guess Leo started a shit-storm here...The question goes far beyond the argument of Twitter vs. TWIT. It begs the question of how do Brands defend their government protected trademarks in a time when trademarks are failing to adequately describe what a company does. Do we need a trademark to know that Leo creates awesome podcasts and streams realtime shows via the internet? Plus, how could a trademark impart this knowledge to newcomers? - Bob Blunk

Leo - your brand, as most evidenced by your show and content is awesome - for a small group of peeps who have had a chance to discover it and enjoy. I'd use the overlap in marques to leverage Twitter in some type of promotional / service partnership, whilst still retaining your brand and the equity you've built. Don't fight em, join em, at least tactically. - Thom Kennon

Never give in to the big guy! - Brian Harper

I'm with the majority, defend your trademark and your legacy. - jcunwired

Defend it Leo. You built the brand and they need to honor that. - Robert

I always thought calling the network the same name as a show on the network was wierd. But it's a recognized brand, and I wouldn't give in. Send some mails to all the twitvid.io's out there. - Anton Tanderup

Is the BIG guy really that Big? Plus, with the way busines is changing one thing seems to remain the same...protectionism, let's sue someone it's easier. I'm suggesting your desicion is easy here Leo but in light of the landscape changing do you really have a chance? The other question to ponder is this, Twitter is the hot thing now but will it be 5 years from now and will it be true... more... - Owen Greaves

speaking from a british point of view a twit is someone who is a little silly or stupid. I think your podcast can stand up against the everising onslaught of twitter. Why not rise above all this discussion and say what you are This week in technology, a fantastic poscast full of wit and essential information for gadget freaks such as myself. Let the owners of twitter gabble on, in my book baby creatures twitter and you are certainly no TWIT. - Chris Jennings

@ Professor Messer 'You can't fight Oprah' is not totally correct. You can FIGHT her, can you win? Maybe. I think, offline, Leo VS Oprah would go several rounds. Tweetfight says otherwise. - Jason Rundell

Defend it Leo. What's the use in having a trademark if others can infringe upon it. - TechListReport

Sorry to say, my girlfriend recently yelled at my for watching 'Twitter' when I was really watching TWiT live. Confusion does exist for people who don't fully understand what each service is. - Wo

The good thing about trademark law is that it's well established and legally documented. The problem with trademark law is that it's well established and legally documented. You need a brand to create awareness, and you need the trademark to protect your established brand. This one is sticky because TWiT is well established but it's going to be an expensive brand to protect. Twitter's... more... - Professor Messer

@Jason Rundell, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a cage match between Leo and Oprah (who wouldn't?). But it'll cost a lot of time and money. Sometimes it's better to be smarter than the legal system. - Professor Messer

I'm not sure I fully understand where the perceived trademark issue is. The names are similar, but clearly different. I don't know that Twitter is making any efforts or attempts to infringe on the TWiT brand, particularly in the area specified ""Entertainment in the nature of visual and audio performances, and musical, variety, news and comedy shows." I agree and understand the brand... more... - Ken Camp

The fact is, the brand that really matters here is not TWiT, but Leo Laporte. I came to TWiT because of you, Leo, not because of the name. That being said, I'll stand behind whatever decision you make. - Darren Landrum

Oh, and I think this is just the opportunity we need to resubscribe our iTunes and take over the top 10 lists. :) - Professor Messer

Can I ask - did TWiT exist before Twitter? Or did Twitter exist first? And - is your name TWiT based on Twitter, at all? - Chris Loft

Chris Loft: TWiT predates Twitter and comes from This week in tech... - Chris Lloyd

I think it's only right to defend your trademark Leo. You were there way before Twitter and just because they have gained significantly increased attention and media coverage, doesn't mean you have to lay down and submit to Twitter. I would defend your mark vigorously if I were you. You've worked hard to build your brand. - Marty McPadden

Chris Loft proves that there is confusion between the two. - Anton Tanderup

Leo - TWit is an incredible brand and network of invaluable podcasts - you simply have to defend it - Robert Davies

Fight for it. When they try to get additional financing make your move. Asserting your trademark will cause them to settle or buy you out when they go public. - Alan Morris

I think that once you see the Twitter television show, you'll probably want to distance yourself as far away as possible. - Professor Messer

Defend your trademark. I get more intellectual engagement from the TWiT network of shows than I do from most of my Twitter community. - Eric Geller

Use whatever legal tools you have available to defend your brand, especially if Twitter is talking about crossing into audio/video. You have a strong product, and Twitter is creating brand confusion in the market. A hard line needs to be drawn between your product and theirs, and it's clear that they are not going to keep a respectful distance with TWiT. - Jason Miller

You have to rise above the emotion and make a business decision. How much will it cost you to defend versus how much will you gain? Simple cost/benefit. My guess is that this fight will cause you to lose focus on your work, be a financial hardship as you go up against a company with VC backing, and all for the "possibility" that you will win and maybe get some compensation from Twitter.... more... - Tom Sheppard

I thought twitvid.com was the new video netcasts Leo has been talking about, boy was I surprised! - Daniel Rinaman

It has to be defended.Giving up and letting another company take your brand, no matter how big the company or personal feelings toward the owner, can not be an option. You built your brand and should defend it. - David Z

Defend it Leo! - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Don't think you have much choice do you. You either protect it or lose it. If you don't at some point they will try the other way. - nef 919 from Nambu

You need to defend it Leo. You had the trademark first. - imperator3733

How about a name like LeoCast... No confusion there. - Rustic Thoughts

Agree don't let the big dog scare you..you have the law on your side - Randy Pollock

It's YOUR mark Leo and you have worked hard to make it as well-known as it is. Defend what's yours!! - Jim Connolly

Twitter will be virtually gone like Classmates and MySpace in a few years... Keep the name! - Rick Harvey

Leo: As others have said, you can initiate legal action, but I doubt you'd win. TWiT is based upon an acronym (This Week in Tech). Twitter is not an acronym, it's a word unto itself. Twitter doesn't use the term "twit" by itself; the word is always used fully (though some people snidely call Twitter users "twits"). Until you launched a microblogging area on your site, TWiT and Twitter... more... - Dwight Silverman

yes defend your trademark - Alfonso alatorre

Add to all this another twist. While TWiT is trademarked, twit is a common language word which can't be trademarked. That adds a dash of ambiguity to the whole issue. - Ken Camp

Twit came before Twitter I think you should defend it. it is dumb anyways Twit and Twitter is not even the same word, it would be like CocaCola suing Coconut because of COC - URLREVIEWS

Twitter is going to be a realty show based on stalking celebrities. It wont last more than one season. - Rustic Thoughts

I say let it roll. Your a 'big guy' in your own field, but Twitter is bigger. Play off of them. You could be bigger. Look at all the petty stuff that Microsoft did..and where did it get them? Bad Press. - Gene

To keep your trademark you must defend it if it's being violated. - CT Raider

I think Twitter has the brand and you don't right now. Maybe Twitter should buy it from you or you should collaborate with twitter to monetize and add your TWiT to twitter - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal

I certainly think you should defend your trademark, isn't that why you registered? - dcale1965

I checked Twitter's own site and it looks like Twitter launched March 1, 2006. TWiT was around well before then. Being in tech, I find it hard to believe they hadn't heard of him. It was a big podcast even then. I knew of TWiT well before Twitter. This may seem like a dumb issue to some, but a lot of people I recommended the podcast to now ask me if "it's a Twitter thing." - JeffreyVC

Ev told me that when they were considering names for Twitter they knew about TWiT and decided it didn't matter. In their defense, they had no idea what or how big Twitter was to become. We talked about trademark early on and both agreed there was no conflict _as long as we were in different spaces_. And therein lies the rub. - Leo Laporte

Apple Computer and Apple records recently went through this -- what was the outcome there? - Brian Sullivan

I thought it wasn't clear infringement when Twitter came out but now that there is Twit video the infringement is very clear. I would defend. - Robert Scoble

Lawyers are expensive. Legal fights are draining. You could spend the rest of your professional life fighting this battle. I don't know what's been going on in the back channel, and you probably shouldn't say publicly, but if you haven't tried approaching the Twitter board members privately, you might want to. Lay out the facts carefully, and if you're open to a settlement, say roughly... more... - Dave Winer

Legally, if you do not actively defend your trademark in every infringement then you will have difficulty *EVER* defending it. This isn't an anti-Twitter thing, just a simple business practice, Leo. - Kevin Donahue

"Clear Infringement". How exactly? It's a lose/lose for Twitter if they choose to encroach or even litigate. - Adi

Yeah but Leo added video later. And now Twitter is adding video. The real issue is that there is no clear separation between a radio/video network and a social microblogging site these days. And our trademarking system is so ridiculous that these kinds of conflicts go completely unnoticed all the time. - JeffreyVC

I'd say it's time to either re-brand TWiT or defend it. Deferring the decision and just living with the confusion and ambiguity is no longer an option. - Ken Sheppardson

Defend your trademark - Lars Clausen

Defend your brand Leo.The World Wide Fund for Nature took on the WWF and made them change their name to WWE. If they can do it, so can you. - Bryan Lee

The big problem with defending it... beyond the unfortunate fact that it's a drain on resources that could be better spent elsewhere... is it's not clear how you'd win. They're not going to change their name. They'll forever be Twitter. Is it sufficient to somehow "ban" them from ever doing anything in video? Enforcing that in perpetuity's would only raise your blood pressure. - Ken Sheppardson

I would take the emotion out of the equation -- find out what it would cost to defend and determine what it is worth to have exclusive/non-exclusive use (maybe some subjectivity here) and make the decision using that information. - Brian Sullivan

I say defend it but only so much as to bring more media attention to your brand... once you have the media's attention you can use that to change the brand identity if you so choose. Your followers myself included will stay fans no matter what you call your brand, but I think you have an opportunity to expand and use twitter as a means of gaining media attention! - Nathan McClain

If you don't do this you wont have a leg to stand on in the future when you need to really protect it. I can piss all over your trademark if you do not defend it. - David Lloyd

Leo: in a trademark fight what is the ROI? I am sure it will be very expensive and not sure you will get much in return but if you forced Twitter to change its name I am sure they would quickly settle with you. - Robert Scoble

I still think Twitter will be as irrelevant as MySpace in 2 years, but it's your brand to protect. - Mike Lewis

Ideal Outcome: A $$$ settlement sufficient to comfortably fund the rebranding of TWiT. - Ken Sheppardson

Robert makes a very good point. This could get messy and expensive, although it seems like those guys are VERY hard to work/interact with. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

while bryan lee makes a good point, their battles took a long time to resolve. but, don't let this deter you. i would suggest you defend it. if anything, i see you have a strong case and whatever happens can be in your favour. it's possible twitter can concede in infringing in your trademark and may be even consider licensing through the course of the battle. but be very, very patient for any outcome to happen. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Dave: wrong. Leo is who got me on Twitter. His marks were more popular and predated Twitter's. - Robert Scoble

Leo got me into twitter too! - Jim Connolly

I think Leo has a good chance at wining his case since he did register the copyright first. Twitter is still not a money making business. They are living off of VC money. They will probably not have the funds to mount a case since their money will be tied up with keeping twitter afloat. Am I right? - Bryan Lee

Leo also got me on Twitter shortly after they went public. - Mike Bracco

regarding AMF, Inc. v. Sleekcraft Boats, 599 F.2d 341 (9th Cir. 1979) the battle was very different. one of the things found was that the company had an 'infinity' of other brands to choose. it's a very different situation in detail, although it looks comparable at face value. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Or just have them become a premium sponsor. There used to be so much twitter talk before, I think they really should be owing you some gratitude for the traffic. - Adi

As part of any settlement, you should demand Ev and Biz concede that individual Twitter entries are "Tweets", as embarrassed as they seem to be by that. They're net "twits" or "twitters"... they're "tweets". - Ken Sheppardson

i'm sure something can be negotiated with twitter. a lawsuit in this case would show you're just defending your trademark because they are encroaching in your territory. you're not taking them on what they are known to do, their core competency. rather, it's stepping into your own grounds. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

not doing anything on purpose may weaken your trademark. many court cases also end up not going through the entire ordeal. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Yep, I agree the day has come where it's either fight or flight. And I don't mean that quite the way it sounds. :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

Defend!!!! - Mark Williamson from BuddyFeed

I don't think you have much choice. Either you defend it or you lose it. - Pascal Sijen

dave johnson: true, there's always a degree of uncertainty; but that doesn't mean giving up in defending one's investment in a trademark. it can be argued pragmatically and it's to the point where leo must defend his territory upon which twitter is encroaching. aye. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

I'm not sure you can win, are we aren't even sure what they're going to call it yet. If it ends up being Twitter.TV you have no chance to beat them. - DarknessFalls

There is even a shortening service called: http://twitpwr.com/ - The brand must be defended. - David Z

Leo: You must defend it or lose it. They need to know you also have the muscle behind you. I have the attorney that did all the trademark work for Terminator 1-4, Rambo, old timer who knows every angle. I have him on retainer and would love to join your cause. I can arrange a chat with him at no cost, then you can decide to move ahead, or if the cost seems to steep, I would be interested in partnering with you on the trademark. Fight on Leo! Let me know if you want to chat Thx Chad - Chad Harris

Reading this I'm also thinking, if you move forward as some here suggest, be ready to go after Twitpic.com and every other Twit* variation to aggressively defend everywhere or lose steam on all fronts. Is that a good identity move? This is not a simple question to consider when everything is taken into account. - Ken Camp

I'm of the opinion that twitter's initial success back in 2006 and 2007 was in part due to piggybacking on the brand name recognition that Leo had built over the years prior. - Chris Heath

I think defending it is what you must do, but perhaps take a different look at it all together and suggest some kind of mutual PR blitz leading into a partnership or new brand identity for TWiT. Just don't call it SyFy! - Aaron T. Harvey

The question here is would a "Reasonable person" confuse the two? I would like to think I am a reasonable person (even though I can't spell) and I would not be confused in the least. I love the Twit network and watch several hours a week, but I don't see the issue. - Rob

I agree that since Leo has been a twitter evangelist all these years, they should be able to strike an accord somehow. Maybe even partnering up on the whole Twitter TV Show since Leo has the video presence online. - Bryan Lee

You have to defend now, or 5 years from now you'll have a weaker case against the twitty podcast network. - Robert Hafer

Rob, the question isn't whether or not you or I would confuse the two, but do the people who watch Oprah and maybe catch Leo on The Tech Guy confuse them...and they do. - Aaron T. Harvey

Aaron...Do you really think they would. Am I that out of touch with the "Normal People"? If that is the case then I guess I would have to conseed that to be an issue. But I am still not quite convenced. - Rob

Funny - I would enjoy the extra publicity - You have a loyal set of listeners - and none of us are confused. If people end up on your site -cause they are looking for twitter, maybe they will take a listen. People who are looking for podcasts on technology though i doubt will find twitter in a search. - Laurence Gold

Rob, I've seen it happen, even with people "in the know". People think that TWiT is somehow connected with Twitter because of the name. It's a mistake that, while not happening with everyone--and maybe not even the majority--can end up costing Leo and co. money. - Aaron T. Harvey

Protect what you worked hard to build - Shawn Hickman

Had Apple been named "TWiT," you can be assured there would be no talk of a TwitterTV... - Christopher A Carr

Of course you should perfect TWIT for media and tech. You have the prior art, use. It's an obvious move for Twitter to exploit their 'brand' into media. You must pursue Leo. You have been a crusader for fair-use, but there are times (like this example) where fairness requires accountability. - michael sean wright

The commenter who noted that if you do not enforce your rights they may be weakened is generally correct. I suggest seeking an agreement that is mutually beneficial and recognizes your rights in the TWiT(R) trademark. - erik pelton

The problem with defending your trademark is the public backlash it can generate. Think O'Reilly and Web 2.0 or Apple and Profit Pod. But in this case, if you are indeed convinced that there is some infringement of TWiT by Twitter, I think you'd be doing us all a favor if you could somehow head off their plans for a celebrity-stalking TV show. - Dave

The problem is not really twitter, or a twitter video show, but all the people who says they just sent a twit. Also all the small companies with twit in their name, who are in the video/audio area. Twit radio, twitvid.io etc etc. I see no problem in protecting the brand. However it ends out you'll get a lot of publicity. - Anton Tanderup

Leo, this could be an opportunity for you to come out ahead. Yes it's an awkward situation and yes you could fight this on legal grounds, but there's no win for you there. Here's a way for you to win. Today your brand is a split brand--split between "Leo LaPorte" and "TWIT." You can win by focusing more on building the Leo LaPorte part of the brand. "Leo LaPorte" doesn't equal TWIT, yr... more... - Michael Metz

man you gotta defend your name and trademark,whats next a twitter podcast network? - cliff whitefoot

I think Ken Sheppardson sums it up nicely. I don't think you even need to retain a lawyer to start with the cease and desist letters, then see if they are amenable to a settlement, partnership or other remedy. It doesn't have to, and hopefully won't ever, come to a legal battle. However, it's clear enough that unless Leo hands them his mark and re-brands on his own dime, he must defend... more... - Richard pancakhaus Walker

Its funny... in a way you helped make twitter the juggernaut it is today.... all the free advertisement that you have given them over the years....LOL.. Maybe they should return the favor - Nathan McClain

Hasn't Leo said he wants to add a second host to the network? Wouldn't it also confuse viewers if they were watching the Leo Laporte Network and the show was hosted by someone not named Leo? - Norm Corriveau

Leo, some other people have made good points, if you're going after Twitter your also going to have to go after the other sites with Twit in the name: Twitpic, Twitpwr and Twiteverything or your case will be thrown out. - DarknessFalls

DarknessFalls: he'd only have to do that if they all launched TV shows too. - Martin Bryant

darknessfalls, you're not getting the scope. it's about leo's twit trademark on video and what twitter plans to do that's associated with it. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

If you haven't done so already, explore the Apple case, both the legal and business issues that Apple Corps encountered. And if you DON'T defend your trademark, what's Plan B? Remember that Twitter (or its future owners) may someday sue YOU. - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo

Leo, take your mark and make them all change names. Is this Ustream show even official Twitter? it looks pretty lame, like they just used the word, visual branding like twitter.com. http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - rob friedman

Don't sue unless you can find a business case and a lawyer to take the case on contingency with enough potential gain that it all wouldn't have been a big waste of time for a couple hundred dollars. But I am not a lawyer (IANAL). In fact, the grown up thing for twitter to do would be to link to you with an explanation that they aren't you and visa versa. - Eric Standlee

Defend yourself, Leo. - Devin Baines

Defend your trademark. Why else would you have filed it in the first place? - phil baumann

The best solution would be for Leo to produce the official Twitter show as part of the TWiT network. - Martin Bryant

The brand is big because of Leo yes, but having the TWiT brand is important. There are shows on the network in which Leo is not in. - Anton Tanderup

Whats the question? TWiT is yours Leo, you need to protect it, the TWiT Army is not only at your back but with 60% of new Twitter accounts not coming back, all you have to do is hold out and wait on it to fold anyways. - Bush Williams

Anton, the band is TWiT - twit.tv? - TWiT netcast network... that is the brand... - Chris Heath

It is totally unfair, but I want to see all of your focus and money going towards content, not legal actions. You will be endlessly sending out C&Ds or worse as long as Twitter is popular. That said, I do think you should squeeze some money out of Ev in order to cede the brand. - invariant - farewell FF

Twitter offers more value to me than TWiT ever could. Sorry Leo, but this just seems like sour grapes. - Shannon

Leo: You should do a This Week in Law on this btw. - Anton Tanderup

Shannon - how much value you get from either brand is not what is at question here. - Chris Heath

I'm not sure if this was already mentioned in the nearly 150 comments here, but Leo's link doesn't work. Here's a better link that I hope stays active: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin... - Eric Geller

+1 to chris' comment. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

You have a "defend or lose" obligation under trademark law. The TWiT brand has significant value, both from a revenue perspective and and the potential cost of re-branding al your sites, moving twit.tv etc., if you lose it. Protect the mark that secures your brand. Oh yeah, on that whole "big guy" theme: Because of your stable business model vs Twitter's Twitter's evolving one, an... more... - David Lounsbury

Shannon, the post asks for advice on how to be the best caretaker of a network and its trademark - your assignment of personal value should guide your own choices, but is irrelevant to the question at hand. How can it be sour grapes if failing to act now _could_ result in losing the standing of a trademark/brand which preceded those of other players who _may_ be crossing the line to the point of infringement. - Micah Wittman

TWiT offers more value to me than Twitter ever could. Sorry Shannon, but this just seems like sour grapes. - invariant - farewell FF

What a conundrum. I can't speak much to any legal considerations. But, on an emotional level, I would imagine that not defending and potentially losing the name must feel like smiling politely as an immigration official pins you with a random Anglicized name because your real, "ethnic" name is confusing to the masses in the new world, and making a fuss is to gamble the welfare of your... more... - Micah Wittman

@Ken Camp: Isn't twitter also a common english word which can't be trademarked? EDIT: Or Windows, for that matter? - invariant - farewell FF

invariant -- you mean like Apple? - Brian Sullivan

word, err, I mean Microsoft Word - Micah Wittman

I think your best brand is "Leo Leporte". TWiT is just where Leos at. - Matthew Snape

So I think we've established that common English words can be trademarked. So what's the criteria? Has to be a noun? - invariant - farewell FF

of related note, i realise that twitter is indirectly facilitating twit offshoots upon registration. this is how: registering anything with 'twitter' in the username is *banned*. so, for a user already having their heart set on using twitter as part of their 'brand' might think of using 'twit' instead. this opens up a new can of worms figuring out who is using the twit name and doing video. like how they are doing now with 'twiter', they can stop it at registration to avoid further confusion. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

I say defend it. If they are doing a TV show, they're definitely stepping on your toes. Nevermind that I can't imagine their show would be any good, but that's a different story... :) - Jan Ole Peek

What about TwiTips? If that isn't entertainment then what is? But seriously I own several trademarks myself and I know if you don't take action then you could lose the Tmark. You have a conundrum because Twitter is so popular. So I would recommend seeking a compromise so that you won't lose your mark and appear like the bad guy with the public. Perhaps a clearer definition of the terms... more... - BLOGBloke

Other than I think he needs to see a surgeon to fix that lean to the left he has,... I love the guy and have been listening to him for about 15...16...dang probabaly close to 18 years about tech news I love the guy. And to top it off! He knows what he is talking about!! Leo makes am radio worth a listen on the weekends! - John Apostoli

TWiT is a network providing audio and video broadcast covering issues related to the tech field. Twitter is a social network used to connect people using the basic SMS tools. While people *may* confuse the issue by referring to Twitter messages as "twits, there is no evidence that Twitter has used or endorsed the term. Unless & until Twitter (as a company) starts using the term "Twit"... more... - David J. Garcia

I've said this privately, but I guess I will say it publicly.Defend your mark. It is your livelihood. There WILL be confusion if it gets to TV, where people are not tech savvy and have no idea who you are - Francine Hardaway

Yes, it may be expensive, and yes, these fights are draining, Dave, but until the laws are changed (an entirely different question), Leo could lose part of his livelihood through the confusion, especially since he has advertisers who would probably want him to defend. Everything in the universe doesn't happen in Silicon Valley:-) - Francine Hardaway

David - until now that has been the case, but Twitter is planning on doing a TV show (which would definitely be infringement), which is why this debate is happening. - imperator3733

I would certainly want you to defend it but i don't think its gonna be possible for two reasons. First Twitter is a bigger, more powerful and certainly more loved brand with more money. and you were first to infringe the unofficial agreement by hosting Twit Army. in that perspective you might not be able to defend it legally.besides the audience you've built ain't gonna be affected by what twitter does.So consult a legal advisor & take best course of action. Best of Luck - Abhishek

I think if you approach it in good faith--initially without lawyers--you have a very good chance to work something out. Ev seems to be a very reasonable guy. Perhaps it's best to draft a strategy with counsel before any discussions though. What's really in your favor(perhaps legally, perhaps not) is that Twitter can't deny how your support and promotion for it was incendiary to the... more... - Gregg Scott

http://www.googlefight.net/... - ouch - Nate

What's the point of a googlefight here Nate? - Chris Heath

Sorry but the Google fight site is loaded with pop-ups that even show through popup blocker. - Usman Bashir

Usman, I didn't get any popups (using chrome on winxp) but still it's a hideous site - Chris Heath

Twitter has a lot of investment, but I'm not sure all of that is liquid money. You may be even in the money spent defending your Trademark. I say go for it. Do it now though if you do. - Jesse Stay

Leo must Defend! - Jim Mahon

If it was me, I'd defend it. While Twitter is still worth something! Talk to a lawyer first and see if you have a valid case. - John Frazer

You must defend. - Will Bostwick

I can't believe how long this thread has gotten! - Bryan Lee

Seems like you are getting a lot of FREE promotion as a result of twitter. My bigger concern would be not having the twit.com URL to go with your brand name. That's a big issue! - Craig Shipp

@Craig, twit.com was registered in 1997, and it's parked. - rob friedman

Twit is your trademark for the company you have built up. It seems rather unfair that they would brand their idea so similar. I would defend it and all the hard work you have done. - Matthew Davis

Defend it Leo. Things may get ugly, but sometimes they just gotta. - David Chartier from BuddyFeed

Fight for you trademark! Especially since they knew of your prior use and now they are doing a TV show which they should know is stepping on your trademark. - russellcoleman

Defend, owning Twitter may not be useful for you yourself, but you could make a profit off of it if you were to sell it. Go for it Leo! - Zachary TG

If you decide to fight this I'll up my monthly donation. - KyleHase from twhirl

What Kyle said!! - jcunwired

Leo, FriendFeed community, let's get practical here - Twitter has more resources and probably a decent case defending against what you could file. It would be a blow to your image, to TWiT's image, and be bad press overall. You have a far greater chance of losing credibility than gaining trademark protection. You need to look into other strategies. - Ben Parr

There is no such thing as bad Press - Jesse Stay from email

I would thin kthat the thing to do is to gently but firmly convince them that they are infringing on your brand, that litigation would be damaging to both of you, losing community goodwill over the fight, and that it would be simpler, faster, and cheaper for both entities if they were to pay for your rebranding effort. Be prepared to present them with the estimated costs of litigation,... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Defend your Trademark. It's the responsible thing to do as a buisness. - Donald Forth

Defend your trademark - Russ Jackson

what Kyle & guruvan said. Does anyone else think we need threaded comments for conversations like this right here? - Richard pancakhaus Walker

I'd defend the TWiT trademark. - Jonathan Bloom

I'm not as thunk as you drink I am - David Lloyd

Also there is this guy who has a "beef" with twitter http://twitter.co.uk/ - rob friedman

@rob friedman - That guy says Twitter doesn't require you to validate your email address. Wow, that's ripe for abuse! - invariant - farewell FF

Defend. - Tony Meyer

Talk to a lawyer. - Zian Choy

More than a hundred comments, the community is twitting even on friendfeed. A legal action would be very difficult. You should first define your objective in doing so. Do you really want to protect your brand or settle for a lucrative compensation? Even if you get some sort of legal protection limiting Twitter to use or endorse the word "twit" to some extent, people will still be... more... - Cem ARGUN

Cem: I'm afraid I don't understand that first sentence of yours. Can you explain? - Christopher A Carr

It's only infringement if trademark string parser is case insensitive TWiT® != Twit® - KyleHase

Prior art (and obligatory MP reference) http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Jay Cuthrell

Maybe a dead issue? At least as far as the potential fight w/ Twitter, Inc. Mashable says Twitter responds no official Twitter TV show http://mashable.com/2009... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

And now for something completely different... watch the meetup room if interested in seeing Spamalot in SF as a group... - Richard pancakhaus Walker

I would say defend it. Of course, I'm just a Twit.tv fan and not a lawyer. - Joey Gibson

You lose so much credibility with all this nonsense. - PC Easy from twhirl

'all this nonsense'?? wtf is that supposed to mean? - Chris Heath

Just leave it alone until they manage to make some real money off it, then litigate. That's how it's done you know. - Will Higgins™

Yeah this is nonsense. If you think you really have a case, then don't make a big stink about it on Friendfeed. Just go take them to court. - PC Easy from twhirl

Leo, I am a long time fan and constant listener to all of you work. You are a more than fair and wholly honorable man. You have had TWIT long before I ever heard of a twitter. Go with your heart Leo. I am behind you. I understand you would impede progress of any positive kind. But a cease and desist letter. Seems harsh. I think you have a winner. Let them buy the TM. Power to the people. Go Leo, you deserve it. You do only good. You are one of a kind! RodneO - RODNEY OLIVER

PC Easy: I don't think Leo's making a big stink. The idea that twitter would get into the tv/video business would be a big thing since they have a verbal agreement with Leo not to get into that business. This may be all for nothing, since the mashable article guruvan linked above states that twitter will not be doing a show. Leo was doing the best first step (imho) in asking the community for guidance in the event that the original reporting was correct (which it does not appear to be now). So moot point - Chris Heath

I think if I was you Leo I would try to license rights to them and get some mula out of it. Remember "Leo Laporte" goes a lot farther than TWIT does and most importantly ever will. - Eric VM

there's a current backlash on twitter trending topics right now w/ hashtag #notwittertv. the examiner has an unfavorable article here: http://www.examiner.com/x-264-C... even alyssa milano is against it: http://twitter.com/Alyssa_... - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Its going to suck and bomb... guaranteed. - Rustic Thoughts

Maybe just sell it to them Leo for a gazillion dollars and retire. Keep the leaches out of it..meaning the lawyers. What the heck, Leo you are great at trend setting, you practically put twitter on the map. They owe you something.for all the pub you have given them since their inception. - John Apostoli

Defend. There's really no reasonable alternative. - Jason Clarke

You gotta defend it Leo. What's the point of trademarking in the first place. - Joel Lovato

You have to defend what is legally yours. - Michael Hansel

Twitter Responds: There is No Official Twitter TV Show- Mashable (May 25th, 2009 | by Pete Cashmore) -- http://mashable.com/2009... -- There is no official Twitter TV show—although if there were it would be fun to cast! In dealing with networks and production companies we sometimes have simple agreements. Regarding the Reveille and Brillstein project reported today,... more... - Chris Loft

Leo, suggest you go "open source co-branding" on this. Monetize your "twit" brand through creative brand licensing with emerging entertainment and multimedia microblogging companies that want to ride the "twitter" bandwagon. I can see creative corporate and individual co-brands like, TwitSounds, TwitFilms, TwitMedia, TwitCats, TwitBitch, TwitMechanic, etc... - Mike Schmidt

If I hear the word "monetize" one more time, my eardrums will begin bleeding. That is all. - wyclif

I don't want to over simplify this but if Twitter do branch into video and even streaming TV, surely the content would have to be substantially different to what TWiT already provides, otherwise they are at risk of spoiling their brand identity. Stay strong and true to the Tech news content and let Twitter, well do what ever they may do. Personally, I think it would be a mistake for them to go down this road. Time may be better spent further improving the existing service. - Kevin J Hatton

the mashable news is taken directly from the twitter blog: http://blog.twitter.com - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Maybe it's a good time to Re-Brand. Twit has unfortunate connotations in some areas of the English speaking world. On this side of the pond a twit is an idiot. Until I became aware of Leo I gave TWiT a very wide berth. Branded simply as This Week in Tech it would have got my positive attention a whole lot sooner. Time to move onward and upward. - Gilbert Harding

This was copied and pasted but sums it up so well : Of course, there's a larger long-term problem because of the way that Twitter has weakened _your_ brand. It might be less expensive (and a better use of your time) to rebrand TWiT into something that strengthens your brand and moves it away from Twitter; avoiding any future problems (and there will be future problems). You can't fight Oprah. - Professor Messer - Fragtastic

A very worthy point - "I think that once you see the Twitter television show, you'll probably want to distance yourself as far away as possible. - Professor Messer" - Fragtastic

I'll admit to being a little slow on the uptake to both TWiT and twitter and it took me some time to figure out that they were different things. I was listening to TWiT before I found twitter, and at first I wondered if I was mixing the names up in my head. I think there is real potential for confusion between the two names. Good luck in whatever you decide to do, Leo. - Rick Reynolds

You could ride the wave of popularity Twitter is experiencing by allowing that confusion to blossom. Perhaps more people could start listening and watching your netcasts *because* of that confusion? - David Hepworth

You need to defend your brand, however since you know the guys at Twitter maybe you can come to some sort of agreement that is the best interest of both TWiT and Twitter. - Jim Lavin

I say defend the brand. I fully believe Leo and TWiT will outlive Twitter. It would be a shame to surrender the brand only to see it disappear in 1-2 years. - Martin Johnson

I think you should definitely defend it. Whatever it will be called, Twitter-TV will make a big splash and Twit, being less mainstream than Oprah, won't even make a dent. And if they want your trademark, they should pay for it. - Vincent van Wylick

I say defend it, if you don't the that opens the door to other infringements. - Hunter

since you clearly took your name from This Week in Baseball, which deputed in 1977, should MLB defend their trademark with you? - glenn simmons

Defend it! definitely, the trademark is rightfully yours and you need to hold on to it...I like twitter, but I like TWiT even more... - Raymond

Glenn, you are wrong. There are many registered trademarks that contain "this week in" - russellcoleman

See what you have started Leo? Twitter TV is not a patch on what you do. Now if it was professionally done, with great audio then maybe, - Kevin J Hatton

Dealing with a similar issue (though not as big as dealing with Twitter). I say throw out a warning shot to protect your brand. Worst case they ignore you and you have to spend gobs of money to defend it. Best case they make you a $$ offer. - Brian Niles from Nambu

russellcoleman, exactly so why is Leo crying about twitter - glenn simmons

Glenn, because "Twit" is Leo's trademark in the area of entertainment in the nature of visual and audio performances, and musical, variety, news and comedy shows. - russellcoleman

Defend it! - Kiran Patchigolla

Sorry Leo, does that mean I can't call people Twitts? Does it mean no one in a television or audio show can use the word twitt? I mean Twitter...TWIT...they have 3 more letters and their brand is based on communication not entertainment. Give up the ghost against Twitter by now dude. IF they were doing what you were doing MAYBE but what you are saying is noone can use the letters T W I or T .... don't become the next Monster. - Sidney

Defend. No retreat. No surrender. - Barry Biddlecomb from twhirl

Sidney, it means they can't use twit as part of their brand if they go into the areas Leo's trademark covers. We are talking about branding here. - russellcoleman

Again, Twitter is a communication company looking to capitalize on providing television content the ability to have immediate interactive component...Nothing that TWIT does...so no infringement. Leo has always had the axe to grind with Twitter...if he was going to do something he should have done it immediately... - Sidney

My understanding is that Twitter is going to have a TV show and that may infringe. My point above was to the suggestion that no one could say the word twit. - russellcoleman

@Christopher Carr, I meant that twitting has become a generic expression going far beyond Twitter. Here on friendfeed we are twitting, an these lines are in fact twits... :) - Cem ARGUN

As an anecdote, until now I thought TWiT was something twitter related, and I basically ignored it for that reason. I have learned over time that I'm often not a good representative of anything, but there was certainly brand confusion in my case. - Robin Barooah

Robin: You're not alone. I thought TWiT was Twitter-related too :( - Tech Introvert

At first, yep, I thought Twit spawned Twitter. But in a few nanoseconds, I knew otherwise. But in the mind of 'ordinary' (horrible term, sorry) user coming at Twit from Twitter surely they'll get the idea. But Twitter is SO pervasive, I'm glad that you've decided to take advice. I know nothing, but I feel you should protect your brand. Don't change your name. Change the game. On another tack, you checked out http://audioboo.fm ? - John C Wesley Barker

"Again, Twitter is a communication company looking to capitalize on providing television content the ability to have immediate interactive component." - Sidney That is exactly what Leo's doing - Anton Tanderup

news of twitter tv just hit the local abc news. they mentioned there's already direct opposition by celebrities ashton & demi who (according to their tweets) will quit twitter if this reality show sees the light of day (paraphrasing). this could mean -as they say & putting it lightly- 'my enemy's enemy is my friend?' odd yet amusing opposition from the hollywood. however, no mentions of twit and leo. :-\ - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Twitter can look to capitalize on providing television content the ability to have immediate interactive component all they want. But I don't think they should do it in a way that can cause any confusion between them and Leo's network. - russellcoleman

Sorry the only confusion people have had is what Leo has brought to the table himself. He should have stepped up long ago if he felt Twitter was going to create confusion and admittably it has and TWIT and Twitter don't even cross streams. I know for one if Leo wastes his money on litigation I for will be disappointed and believe it will harm the TWIT brand. - Sidney

i know this thread is too long to read for many. re-quoting what leo said here for those who keep saying he should have stepped up long ago: "Ev told me that when they were considering names for Twitter they knew about TWiT and decided it didn't matter. In their defense, they had no idea what or how big Twitter was to become. We talked about trademark early on and both agreed there was no conflict _as long as we were in different spaces_. And therein lies the rub. - Leo Laporte" - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

Very tough choice. I think these comments provide you with a fairly good sample of public opinion from people in tech, but it would be interesting to get input from the rest of the world on Twitter who have never heard of TWiT. It certainly won't cost much to send in a warning shot so they take notice and to demonstrate defense of your TM, but I would follow that up with a request to... more... - Phil Ashman

Give it up Leo ... You may win the battle ,, but you wont win the War IMHO ,, Unless you have deeper pockets than Twitter ... is your time/money worth fighting over it ? Only *you* can answer that! - johnpiercy

This twitter thing is just a flash in the pan, you can wait them out ;-) - Wolfman-K

If he fights and loses, at least he defended it, which is required to keep it. If Leo does nothing, he could lose it. - Bwana ☠

How do people feel about Monster Cable suing companies that use the word Monster in their name? I feel the same here...except that Twitter just happens to have the same four LETTERS as Twit, as the beginning. They arent using Twit as a standalone word. C'mon. - Andru Edwards

The only justification I can see in Leo going after Twitter is so that he can at least show he is defending his TM so he doesn't lose it as Bwana said...otherwise I think it is a losing game that will be a waste of resources that TWIT could utilize in other productive pursuits. - Sidney

The Monster Cable example doesn't really work. They were suing companies that were in different spaces. Now with Twitter doing a TV show, that is in the same space as TWIT and Leo has the trademark for it. - Mike Child

Everyone should read this: http://blog.twitter.com/2009... It has been linked a few times in this discussion up above, but bears linking again based on recent comments - From what I can tell, it doesn't look like twitter will have a tv show - so this whole point is moot - leo may have to defend his trademark against these 'other' shows if they use the word twit in their name, but i don't think they will - Chris Heath

Leo -This is a battle that will be HELL. Yet, it is critical you fight it. I had a couple situations very much like it in telecommunications late '80s early '90s. I should have fought. Give them a run for their money. It will cost you $$ and resources. But, with Twitter's new direction - man - you're a journalist at heart... You already know - you've got to fight for your right! - Arleen Anderson

Man this is a tough position to be in. Honestly, I can't see TWiT or Twitter changing brands/names. However, Leo, you were first and you have the trademark to back it up. I say defend it! - Doug Jones

Biz responds to the Twitter TV show on the blog: http://blog.twitter.com/2009... - Doug Jones

not reading the thread befire i comment... but seems to me that TWITTER does not equal TWIT. what else is their to know? - sull

Leo, I think the law is very clear, if you don't defend your trademark you may lose it. - David Angel from twhirl

Leo a firestorm is brewing over twitter tv http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_gu... - dday

Make them pay you a million in cold hard cash for the TWIT name and change your name to TWIG - This Week In Goodness :-) - Richard Bitting

When you see such services as "TwitThat" (http://twitthat.com/), with that spelling of "tweet", there is an incredible amount of confusion waiting to happen ! - arnaudt

arnaudt, good point. and again... TWiT does NOT = twitter - so leo has no case. twitter themselves dont use 'twit' in any way. they barely if at all use 'tweet' in any way. they began as 'twtr' in like 2006. twitter is NOT an abbreviation for anything as TWiT is. twitter is not solely behind producing an entertainment property.. they are granting rights to others to do so and in some... more... - sull

sull, TWIT does NOT have to = twitter for Leo to have a case. People just have to be confused enough to adversely impact, or even potentially impact, Leo's business. - Chris Gardner

Chris, i think it does for him to have a 'good' case. You cannot prevent Twitter from letting media entities use twitter as part or their 'shows', even if twitter as some levell of partnership. In the end, it will cost Leo money to lose a trademark case. Proving, for example, that an MTV show tentatively named 'what you're watching' that uses twitter and facebook etc as fundemental components for audience interaction has any negative effect to the TWiT podcast. - sull

sull, there just needs to be a likelihood of confusion. The Court there announced eight specific elements to measure likelihood of confusion: Strength of the mark - Proximity of the goods - Similarity of the marks - Evidence of actual confusion - Marketing channels used - Type of goods and the degree of care likely to be exercised by the purchaser - Defendant's intent in selecting the mark - Likelihood of expansion of the product lines - Chris Gardner

Oh, and TWiT is not just a podcast. It is a live streaming net video network. There are on and off talks to take to cable also. - Chris Gardner

Chris, thanks for pointing those elements of liklihood. Still, i think that even for the case to have a leg to stand on, twitter would need to have a 'show' specifically named in a way that may cause confusion. That has not happened. Trying to prevent the word 'twitter' from being used at all in marketing and branding via "visual and audio performances" because of the TWiT trademark seems a stretch and will prob result in negative publicity for Leo. Anyway, maybe we'll see. Interesting. - sull

sull, agreed interesting. Also, this will probably not go anywhere near the courts. Ev Williams and Leo know each other and get along (not many in the industry that Leo does not get along with). They will work things out. - Chris Gardner

For those who are unaware, people have to take action to protect their brands otherwise they lose their trademark. My suggestions and observations: 1. Look for win-win 2. It all seems moot anyway http://blog.twitter.com/2009... tho this is a fascinating thread 3. If twitter did ever go ahead with this it would be a fairly simple compromise for them to... more... - Isha (Marysia)

You need to defend it. I don't know that you'll stop twitter from launching their show but you have to fight it to keep your trademark valid. You for sure need to go after twitvid.com and twitvideo.com! - The Griff

Defend the trademark. It could make the difference on winning a future trademark case with another company. - David Ebaugh

Defend it. It was your long before Twitter was even around. Like someone else said what is the point of calling your network that if as soon as a bigger fish comes along you cave. Don't give in to the man Leo! - Mr. Thomas

Leo. I am not a lawyer and don't play one on the Internet. It sounds like you have no real case against Twitter, but the producers of the rumored tv show are a different story. Even then, it depends on what they are doing with the subject matter. Is it *about* Twitter, or simply about people who use Twitter? Will they ever use the term, "twit" in the show? It certainly couldn't hurt to... more... - Jake Overton

While this is getting a lot of buzz now, it didn't even occur to me till it was posted. I think both have built their brands, both have similar sounding names but are different. Isn't TWiT an acronym? I would be more concerned with TWiB (This week in Baseball) going after Leo if he goes on TV as his show title is clearly a play on theirs, and not Leo being concerned about Twitter... ;) Either way Leo, you got some free publicity for your program/site out of this. - mike wood

Let's not forget that use of anything in an editorial context is considered fair use. - Ryan Brodkin

I also feel that you have an opportunity for even more publicity if you can work the TWiT shows into the TV show, joining them rather than fighting them. You will get publicity either way, but there seems to be a high road and a low road (or perception thereof). Good luck and keep up the great shows. - Jake Overton

Leo fight them. - johnny

we neec to fight for TWIT - Richard Thomson

So far I don't think there is a conflict with Twitter, unless there is a Twitter TV show. Although you should fight sites like http://twitvid.io . Plus if you win, you could have an awesome domain for video downloads when you want to offer them. - Mister IQ

Apparently there's a popular twitter client app in Japan called "Twit" http://wakoopa.com/softwar... It's the first "twit" result on Google Japan and Yahoo Japan. - KyleHase

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MacNN | June 1st New Yorker cover painted with iPhone app - http://www.macnn.com/article...

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The June 1st cover of the New Yorker was drawn with an iPhone, says the New York Times. Jorge Colombo, a recurring artist with the magazine, is specifically said to have used an app called Brushes. Using an iPhone offers anonymity, claims Colombo, because people cannot tell a drawing is in progress. - Leo Laporte

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Live now: this WEEK in TECH with John C. Dvorak and Dan Bricklin. http://live.twit.tv - discuss here...

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Thanks for starting this - Matthew

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Was wondering when this would open up :) - Simon Wicks

About time. :P - Phillip Stewart

Good show so far, leo. - Willowdale

Audiophiles seems like the biggest joke - Matthew

Dan Bricklin is the nicest guy! This gets confirmed every time I hear or see him. What a great guy - Jackson Pollock

If you are going to go deaf, best do at it at the highest quality :) - Johnny Worthington

Jackson: I agree. - Wo

Wiki page: http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki... - Phillip Stewart

makes me laugh at the people who have paid for the wine mod for ipods to sound better - Matthew

when they don't even play flac - Matthew

Looks like accounts have been hacked on Twitter. Again. - invariant - farewell FF

Being 20yo, I hate my generation when I hear people talking like this. But it's so true - Jackson Pollock

See http://twitter.com/thomashawk for example. - invariant - farewell FF

What is a wine mod? - Willowdale

Whooops,at first I thought that said Twat - sofarsoShawn

http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod... - Matthew

I watch Bruce videos from the 70's every day. Not once have I seen P-Diddy in HD. - Jackson Pollock

whoa, that was not long ago invariant - Matthew

Thanks Matthew - Willowdale

How high quality do you need teenage hit in the nuts videos? - Johnny Worthington

For $5 is also a trending topic on Twitter. - invariant - farewell FF

Johnny; or today's music. or reality TV. or ben stiller movies - Jackson Pollock

Johnny, HD. - Phillip Stewart

well Johnny, crotch shots should always be in the highest quality to see them crying afterwards - Matthew

True - Johnny Worthington

When will Leo start sending these out on time? - Robert

I can't use one cause they pick up my breathing - Johnny Worthington

sending what out on time> - Greg

The heil sounds much better - Willowdale

Agreed - Johnny Worthington

This is old. Guitarists have been using Digital Processors for effects for years. But in the end, there is nothing like a Fender Bassman '59 with a Ibanez Tube Screamer. - Jackson Pollock

New Book, Old Pic - Jackson Pollock

they're talking about voice, not instruments - Matthew

Wondering if Leo is recording the channel the countryman is plugged into> - Greg

Same science. Digital creation of analogue tone - Jackson Pollock

The book: http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCD... - Thomas James

but microphones can be considerably cheaper than instruments - Matthew

depends on the mic - Daniel Grove

Matthew; instruments have microphones on them, called pickups. - Jackson Pollock

what they're talking about is having inexpensive mics sound better thru software - Matthew

esp; vintage tube mics - Daniel Grove

John was talking about a Texas Instruments project that emulated specific speaker-types on cheap, crappy speakers. - Jackson Pollock

Enough mic chat, are there no tech stories this week? - Clay Lewis

Maybe my ears are crap, but I don't tell the difference. That or my speakers just suck. - Tony, Paradox of FF

Objectified is the no.1 independent movie in the US. - Jackson Pollock

I've always used the earbuds that come bundled with mp3 players - Matthew

I swear by Shure E2c - Jackson Pollock

in 1989! - Jackson Pollock

Gates always says that his head is filled with software and code, and that he'll forever be in love with writing code - Jackson Pollock

yes and now with wolfram alpha it's going to be worse. like someone said last week, we no longer need to think so much. - shen heng

netbooks killed them. - Jackson Pollock

@Greg the FF notes, as opposed to sending them out halfway through the show. - Robert

Jony has it in the lab. Waiting for Steve approval, I bet. - Jackson Pollock

HAve a button Dan might appreciate I got it over 25+ years ago. - Bill McClusky

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums... - Bill McClusky

They bought. They always buy. Jony's team builds every type of computer we can imagine. The lab is filled with every project imaginable. He is an ever perfectionist. No 1st editions from Apple. - Jackson Pollock

I would like either a slide out keyboard or one of the ones where the keyboard can swivel out and your tablet turns into a little laptop... - Johnny Worthington

Leo new JCD "on the phone" picture for you http://img30.imageshack.us/img30... - Joseph

A little singed from a fire - Bill McClusky

Sorry I wasn't able to make it to the show today Leo. - Robert Scoble

Moblin trailer makes it look really good - Matthew

If you notice, Apple keyboards have become lower and lower (keys are thinner). They are guiding us through evolution until the keyboard is a screen with vibration on touch. They patented this a while ago, and I'm sure that's where it's going. We're comfortable with the Apple keyboards as they are now, and becoming comfortable with the iPhone keyboard - Jackson Pollock

At this point the Pre should be called the Post. - Jackson Pollock

Sam, yes. While building the AppStore and preparing for iPhone 2.0, they had what they called web apps, which are sandboxed in the browser. You can't do anything, but at the same time you can access it anywhere on any platform. - Jackson Pollock

Sam - the difference is that the Pre won't need connectivity to run the apps. But AJAX is only nice because of it's compatibility with many platforms. If you're writing an app for a single device you can do better with native code. - invariant - farewell FF

How does Dan like numbers? - Jackson Pollock

Jobs always says that. Google provides a great server back-end that they build clients for, like Google Earth for the iPhone - Jackson Pollock

Like, say, uhm GMail? - Jackson Pollock

If audible was more like netflix watch instantly I would be more tempted. - Tony, Paradox of FF

I can probably still quote Dan's dialogue from The Triumph of the Nerds - Jackson Pollock

These Friendfeed conversations need timestamps (at least as a user option). - Phillip Stewart

what about putting it on archive.org? - James Beake

When I was 15 I literally watched the Triumph of the Nerds again and again every night. That and Channel9 - Jackson Pollock

realtime has time stamps http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - FW

Scoble looooves him - Jackson Pollock

Thanks, FW, but is there a way to get realtime for a specific conversation? And all of ff appears to be realtime now. - Phillip Stewart

john's personal homepage; http://dvorak.org/home.html - Jackson Pollock

Hertzfeld! - Jackson Pollock

That was really good! - Chris Lloyd

Yes great show, refreshingly different. - James Beake

Looking forward to the Google show. Right now, I think the Gillmor Gang is the best show on TWiT. - Wo

I would love an occasional "history of the tech industry" podcast, with people who were there back in the day. - Thomas James

I tried listening to the Gilmour Gang but was immediately turned off by the love affair the Gang had with Pres. Obama. I ended up listening and subscribing to No Agenda instead. - Charles LePage

Leo hi ,its an interesting video about sound ,"Steve Weiss invites Dave Schwarz, Nick Barbieri and Jeff Beaumont to discuss how to get the best sound with DSLR’s in this video. “The real sign of an indie project to me is in the sound”. Steve Weiss, product designer, Zacuto USA. http://vimeo.com/4782593 - Johni Fisher

Why doesn't Audible support Linux? I am pretty much all Linux now. - Eric Standlee

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After careful consideration, I'm totally okay being called a beer snob. They call it Arrogant Bastard for a reason, you know. #craftbeerftw

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