just got an email that a friend of ours who's been fighting cancer for the past year and a half has stopped treatment and gone into hospice care. there's a pony here somewhere, right?
hastily arranging for my dad (who is full-time caretaker for my mom who is wheelchair-bound) to come watch the kids while we make the mad dash down to the hospice in Burleson. i hope we make it in time.
- Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
:-( That sucks. On one hand, it's sad to see someone give up the fight. On the other hand, it sounds like she isn't expected to suffer long. Not particularly comforting, but it's something... My maternal grandmother passed in a similar way.
- Jason, Incognito
we got back ages ago, but we're all a mess. her body is shutting down so quickly now.
- Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
holly, that's too bad. You should have the option of having it public or private. I suppose I could make another whole account, but that would be a lot of work, and adding it as your own blog feed is misleading.
- Cristo
If you want people to see stuff, create a room, if not then make a private room
- Susan Beebe
Susan, and how will they discover that room? What if I want those posts fed into some existing rooms?
- Cristo
You can reshare into other rooms. But if you don't own a room, you can't setup auto-import into it.
- Jason, Incognito
Yeah, manually resharing seems the same amount of work as reposting to me.
- Cristo
However, if you put the private room you created into your home feed, the posts will be fed to you and you can quickly reshare them from there.
- Jason, Incognito
Better option: Go to Settings, select "Custom RSS/Atom URL" (look for grey RSS icon), enter feed URL to deliver content into your FF page
- Susan Beebe
Susan, I don't want the content to appear as if it's my own. (Because it isn't)
- Cristo
Cristo post in the bio it isn't you and add unofficial to the name of the feeds. XXX(unofficial).
- Jimminy Fuller
Jimmi, it still shows up with my photo next to it. The correct way to do it (currently) seems to be creating a new account and then subscribing to that account.
- Cristo
Oh sorry, that's what I was referring too, I was going to point you to holden's page to see how I did it there.
- Jimminy Fuller
Holden? Sounds familiar, but I can't quite place the name...
- Cristo
Try this, Chris: Log out. Create a new account. Name it appropriately. Add the RSS feed. Log out. Log back in as you. Subscribe to that new account. Whenever you see an item you like, "Like" it and then it'll appear to your subs via FoaF.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, that's exactly what I was describing, although I don't think that should be required.
- Cristo
Ah, I see your earlier comment now where you rejected this idea. Yeah, I agree, it shouldn't be required. But I think it's the best of the options available, overall.
- Stephen Mack
If you want, group with me or another guildie before queueing in Dungeon Finder. Typically I'm able to get a run within about 30 seconds if I've queued already in group.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
geared enough to do toc25? or geared in toc25 gear?
- mjc
Heh, yeah ToC25 gear. Which I guess means geared for ICC.
- Victor Ganata
You've been running TOC25? SWEET. Are you locked out for this week already? We're running it tonight for some lowbie guildies and I can drag you along if you're game. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Whoops, I think this ended up in the wrong thread :D No, I haven't run any raids at all. I was just wishing I had that kind of gear :D Although, according to WoW Heroes, ToC25 and ICC10 should be "medium hard" in my DPS gear. (I need to start working on my tanking gear.)
- Victor Ganata
Dammit. LOL I forgot to check back. TOC25 didn't happen tonight because we were rep farming in ICC25. But there will be a TOC25 this week. We are farming it for Talonstrike for me. :D I'll let you know when. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Heh, no worries. I was coughing my lungs out last night anyway and went to sleep at 10 pm.
- Victor Ganata
Well my GS is about 2450 ret, 1900 prot. I've been sadly neglecting tanking. I couldn't get past Hadronox with an appropriately geared group the other night. (Although I didn't originally sign up for tanking, but that's another story.)
- Victor Ganata
My dear friends: Happy New Year to you all! Instructions: Open the below .txt file in Notepad. CTRL+H and replace all 6 with _ (underscore). Make sure the font is size 10 (regular) and Lucida Console. ;-)
There is a video somewhere which I think is going online. Also a wave at https://wave.google.com/wave... which was one of the best uses of Wave that I've had work out so far. Really good record of the talk as well as some questions that went on afterwards.
- Cameron Neylon
likewise. I assume the last pic is someone taking off to fly ;)
- Anna Croft
Well it was intended to be someone playing and having fun...so yes more or less :-)
- Cameron Neylon
"Fulfilling one of the transparency goals of President Obama's administration, the White House today released more than 25,000 records of visitors who came through the gates at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue this year. The spreadsheet posted at WhiteHouse.gov offers the visitor's full name, date of visit, who they met with and in what room. These records cover from Sept. 16 to Sept. 30, and the monthly visitors logs will be a regular release going forward."
- Jeff P. Henderson
from Bookmarklet
Unlike the Whitehouse, my house is not 100% supported by taxes. If I am paying for something, why shouldn't I have the opportunity to know what is going on there?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
So, under MVB's model, a President is not entitled to a private life.
- Anthony Citrano
MVB: Does this hold true for everyone whose home is paid for by taxpayers? The chancellor of UC Berkeley? The grad student whose room and board are paid for by university scholarship? The Coast Guard captain who's family lives in military housing? Sure, you want to gander at a list of everyone who talks to the president privately, but saying its your right because you pay for the house...
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- Kevin Fox
It may not be the societal norm, Kevin, but if you gladly take my money, I want to know exactly for what you are using it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
As a taxpayer, I want the security of my nation protected - that includes the protection of our Nation's President and the respect of his privacy when necessary.
- Jesse Stay
MVB: I'm sure you want to, but you don't get to. Obama has a job that has a compensation package, part of which is housing. He has no more obligation to tell you who visits that house socially and in private than a Federal Marshall has to tell you how he spends his paycheck. They're both parts of compensation packages you're footing the bill for, but you don't get to judge how they utilize it.
- Kevin Fox
MVB, two follow-up questions: Do you think personal visitors to the VP's residence should be made public as well? Do you think you're entitled to see the President's personal credit card statements (if he has any)?
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: The President lives in the Whitehouse, which, last time I checked was a public building, not a private residence. What someone does with their paycheque is immaterial. The same applies to anyone who lives in any public housing. Public means I own a small portion of it, as does every citizen. Why is it so wrong to want to know what goes on in something I own?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
A question for you... does it really matter? Seriously, does it keep you up at night? Cause if you do demand that, then anyone of his two daughter's friends would have to be included. Any personal friends of his wife would have to be included. "Do you want to come over my house for a play? Here, sign this" This is just being petty.
- Johnny Worthington
Why are people all nosy now? Why not during Bush? Or Roosevelt? Or Nixon? Where was the inquiry then?
- Derrick
What about visits by Jeff Immolt (CEO GE) that are unrecorded because it was a personal visit?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
What about meetings on golf courses? What about meets and greets? What about a stenographer sitting next to him at every state function writing down his every word. What about GPS trackers on everyone. What about we get to see his girl's report cards. What about having a list of what he watches on TV. What about recording his shoe size..... What about a Obama-Takes-A-Dump-O-Tracker. The...
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- Johnny Worthington
MVB it is those cases that, if warranted and approved by a Judge, Freedom of Information Act are for. A Judge should have to approve it though. The President and his family still deserve some privacy though. FOIA protects anyone in the public eye from getting too public though when there are items of suspicion.
- Jesse Stay
I also wonder what, if anything in the Constitution any of this conversation is based on.
- Jesse Stay
I used to work for a company who thought it was OK to know whenever I took a dump. We literally had service codes for all kinds of different type of breaks and they measured it against the norm. Hard to believe I put up with it, but I was happy to take their money.
- Davis Freeberg
MVB, you are wrong, while the White house is a public building, the part that the president lives in is a private residence. It is no different than if I owned an apartment building and rented you an apartment. I own the building, but you have specific rights to privacy inside of your unit. I do not have a right, for instance to walk into your apartment any time I want or to monitor what goes on inside of your apartment.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Two baby kittens. To the left, Midnight, the Empress of Everything. To the right, the Most Reverend Esther Gabriel Kittenpants, Archbishop of Catterbury. Midnight's pic is from May 2001; Esther's is from July 2008.
We just finished kitty-sitting Midnight for a week, while the ex and the ladybuglets went to Texas for Christmas. She is no longer anywhere near this little and cute, being a big ol' 18-pound blob. But I already miss her again. Esther is still here, of course, and her full-grown size is nicely petite and still adorabibble. I just like how similar they look in these two pics!
- Ladybug Heather
(Esther's momma was a feral kitty who got run over by a car, leaving her babies all alone. Esther told her story on the blog post above, but she didn't know about her mom. So don't tell her, mmkay?)
- Ladybug Heather
Ah... and I guess that is the story, but not her name. She's named Esther, because she saved her people. She's named Gabriel, because she certainly announced her presence very clearly! And she's named Kittenpants... 'cause that's just what she's always been. :-)
- Ladybug Heather
#Resolutions -- Since I'm putting these up on social media, everyone can attack me when I break one :) So much better then just putting them in my head and breaking them the next day; I did keep last years.
1. Change my out look on life, from deeply negative to positive. Learn how to use mental calming and self reflection yoga techniques. No more evil negatives and no one evil anger as it's not healthy for us nor is stress healthy for me.
- H0llywoodWh0re
2. Survive my last few weeks left in Kentucky before my life switches to California (getting along w/ all I have to do here for a few weeks). Plan. Plot. Create data base and lists to the point I start packing. If the court date is held off for either of us, don't freak; don't harm and don't cut.
- H0llywoodWh0re
3. Mature and continue the open/honest/transparent techniques that we build the foundation of our relationship on.
- H0llywoodWh0re
4. Attempt to sleep like a normal adult, instead of skipping 4-5 days at a time. Also eat better instead of skipping 2-3 days.
- H0llywoodWh0re
5. Start a household with my love and successfully do everything involved in the household. Take life one step at a time with a open positive attitude knowing what ever happens happens and it's not the end of the world if something goes wrong.
- H0llywoodWh0re
How did you skip 4-5 days of sleep and 2-3 days of food?
- Morton Fox
My illness. Gastro problems will no allow me to eat normally. Chronic pain will not allow me to sleep normally.
- H0llywoodWh0re
#10yearsago I was at one of the lowest points in my life. Depressed, cutting, desperately trying to hold on for the birth of my niece, after which I was planning to take my life. Once I saw her though, I could not leave. In another 10 years, I will tell that girl how she saved my life.
I don't think I have the stamina required to start now and stay awake until midnight. I can put down some beers, but I'm not superwoman.
- Michelle Martinez
Sean, if only I knew. This was delivered directly to me fresh and hot.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wow, whatever you do, don't google "Asian guys at beach licking" if you want to find the Flickr account for this. No, seriously. Just...don't. o.O
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
changed my life forever...I will always go to the beach with a a few chubby buddies after porking myself up for those bosoms ~ and this image is most definitely going in the ol' spank bank
- sofarsoShawn
Remember ! I bring quality product to Friend Feed !:)
- Akiva Moskovitz
you know what would be funny: ok bear with me, if we blindfolded leather donut (you know the booby man) and...yeah fill in the blanks...something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- sofarsoShawn
Sir, randomly linking to your FriendFeed from one of my posts is oh wait you'll never see this because you're blocked for spamming. Thanks anyway, kaghazrangy.
- Akiva Moskovitz
damn this picture just won't go away - you have forced me to hide it
- William Harryman
Akiva, wasn't that pic taken at your last BBQ?
- Paul
Every time I see this picture I smile. Their joy is infectious, like herpes.
- Sparky
Paul, I surely do wish I had a beach in my back yard!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sparky, I'm going to have this blown up to poster-size and attaching it to the ceiling above our bed. That'll cause some infections!
- Akiva Moskovitz
makes me want to grow a rack and diddle with my own, know what I'm saying?
- sofarsoShawn
this. . . .this. . . ugh . . . so fucking wrong.
- Peter Ghosh
Akiva - you can put anything you want above our bed.
- Sparky
i've been trying to formulate a comment for this for days, but i just...can't.
- joey
I still want to know the motivation here. is this a gay marriage argument? or are we already pushing group social contracts on friendfeed?
- Noah David Simon
oh man this one keeps popping up on ma friendfeed,....must spread virus nao
- Chris Hofmann
I'm surprised no one's noticed old boy's red-framed glasses.
- Akiva Moskovitz
oh right... the glasses are so important when three asian men are licking his nipples and all the comments are by people who think gay marriage has something to do with equality... when it has everything to do with taking protections away from children. the red glass glasses.... um yeah. chicken and Oklahoma with milk
- Noah David Simon
Mark, you have uncovered the dark underbelly of humanity except in this case it isn't dark but is rather a pasty hue somewhere in the vicinity of undercooked flan.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm thinking that eventually, it will have been hidden by every user on FriendFeed. It'll be the most hidden post in FriendFeed history.
- Akiva Moskovitz
WHY WHY KEEP BRINGING BACK THE EYES THEY HURT ME
- Neal Jansons
from IM
Herpes (and this): the gifts that keep on giving.
- Sparky
I wonder if the FriendFeed guys see this and say to themselves, 'Well, this isn't exactly what we had in mind when we started started FriendFeed.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
I look at it and think, "Not again."
- Steven Perez
from IM
Just about the time you FF is getting some class .. Oh well we is what we is.
- Brent - Loving Life
I can't believe after all this time some diligent FF'er hasn't dug up the identities (I said "titties") of this bunch and invited them to join the service that made them famous. Mitchell Tsai, get to work!
- Sprague D
i think if you unlike and delete all your comments anna it'll go away, but hide in general would be nice too (this photo makes me smile every time it pops up so don't mind it)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
*sigh* This is never going away, is it? It's gonna end up like James Bond movies and Swedish meatballs - always existing in the same form. never diminshing, never forgotten. :( :( :(
- Steven Perez
from IM
It will go away, to be replaced with photoshops of the original. It's all part of the meme lifecycle.
- Sparky
I am too new on friendfeed to know anything about record comments.. I love gmail tho, puts all the comments in one threaded email and I can delete them all later in one shot or not if I choose..
- David Gross
from email
well we should aim to beat the record.. i mean jeez there are tons of things that could be said about this.. like.. does it taste like chicken?
- ed fry
I'm gonna have nightmares now. thanks ed. ;)
- Alejandro
ok, in Japanese: "an, an, soko dame!"
- Rick Cogley
You can't close this thread. A lot of people say that this place is a Scoble-fest but, truly, it is this thread that is at the very heart of FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm officially going to proclaim that this is the FF equivalent of Goatse or FFoatse if you will. Lets all refer to it as that from this point forward.
- Mark Krynsky
Sparky has left 57 comments. The rest of you are slacking. Hop to it!
- Christopher Harley
Chrisitan just walked by and said "It's too early in the morning for Japanese titty licking." It's NEVER too early for Japanese titty licking.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
THIS is the first thing I see here this morning?
- l0ckergn0me
Chris, you just woke up? C'mon, man! It's 10:30!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I knew he would break eventually - it's fitting that it's on this thread *now to find out how to hide a thread once you've commented....*
- WorldofHiglet
As much as I am loathe to bump this post, I have to do it to say, You, sir, are a master. Well played, sir. Well played. This is why I take every opportunity to say, in my next life, I want to be Akiva. I've already called it! Don't anybody go getting any more ideas.
- ♥patricia♥
I, for one, refuse to "bump" posts...it's very unseemly...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I wish FF-search allowed to do GROUP BY -aggregations so I could COUNT(*) who are the biggest *bump*ers. :)
- Jemm
Makes me laugh everytime I see it. Such a happy yet silly scene by the sea.
- Toby Graham
There is nothing silly about it. This is serious business.
- Sparky
The more I see this, the more I like it. Not for the ironic nipple-licking, but because these kids are genuinely enjoying themselves. :) Carry on.
- felicious
This photo looks so much better in iPhone 3.0!#!~
- Akiva Moskovitz
Seriously dude. What do I have to do to get rid of this disgusting picture!? Doh! Now I've just pushed it back to the top... yuck, I'm so sickened.
- Jason Nunnelley
I love this image, because I have no clue why it's happening. Randomness FTW!!
- Jimminy Fuller
from twhirl
I'm just thinking of all the new folks coming to friend feed and see this and wonder just what the hell did I get into anyway? And why in Gods name can't I spell Friend correctly the first time - GRRRRRR
- Brent - Loving Life
Can't believe I never hit 'like' on this! Consider the situation rectumfied.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops! I hope I didn't just bump this up again... ;-)
- Sprague D
It's just so refreshing to see genuine juvenile humour at work. These kids are no different from any other, I think it's a great happy image, given all the other shite happening in this world on a daily basis. For those that are too pompous and prudish, 'up yours with brass knobs'
- ImJustCreative
Wow. 666. Nice! Actually, the reason Asashoryu is getting a divorce ( http://ff.im/4T0UA ), is because he wants to spend time with this lot.
- Rick Cogley
To this day, the pic still comes back. Just like Herpes. :D
- Danny Minick
Although unlike herpes this photo is fun to share with friends.
- Sparky
I would rather go to http://woot.com and buy the Acer Aspire One for $259.99, I do not care that it is a refurb.. but what would I do with two laptops? Maybe #hive knows? hmm..
- David Gross
from email
What's this? A real question in this thread? Two extra laptops? Make them fancy digital photo frames.
- Jordan Hofker
Reason #696 why the Internet can grant you immortality. ;-)
- darnell
from BuddyFeed
I can't believe this thing is still floating around Friendfeed. These poor guys... ha ha ha
- Bradley Farless
@SeanMcGee sorry about the spam, this thread is sorta spammy.. I get the messages in email perfect for replying with any message because it then gets posted on twitter and facebook.. I do not do it all the time, look at my other posts in this stream..
- David Gross
from email
Lactating, males last resort to save ourselves, now that they can create sperm in labs.
- Jimminy Fuller
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that...
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- David Gross
from email
I have 89 :( emails since july 10th.. that includes the ones I sent.
- David Gross
from email
gmail comes in handy, it keeps all the email in conversations, 100 messages at a time but because the subject " :( " it will not filter out so they dont go to inbox.
- David Gross
from email
*THOUGHT FOR THE DAY...* Women are like phones: They like to be held, talked to, and touched often. But push the wrong button and your ass is disconnected.
- David Gross
from email
all this oral stuff is just begging the question of when do they start with the money shots?
- Noah David Simon
I just use this image as a way to announce crap. no one really pays attention to my feed... except my enemies. so when I have something important to say I tell the Asian Titty lickers. it is my strong belief that this thread needs it's very own domain name. something like http://xrl.us/TittyLickers
- Noah David Simon
You know, every time this pops up, since FF hides the middle of the comments of which there are 804 or so, I see Akiva say "I'm sorry." at the top. It makes me wonder about how some things are just not possible to apologize for!
- Rick Cogley
wow, I can't believe tomorrow is Friday :o) no, wait, somewhere in the world it's ALREADY Friday :o)
- David Gross
from email
Thanks Rick, thats what I thought.. does that mean I can start with the #followfriday on twitter or do I have to wait till it is Friday here in NJ? would be funny to post it from this post LOL all my friendfeed goes to twitter..
- David Gross
from email
David - yeah, you can get an early start.
- Rick Cogley
Rick, I am not good at lists or #followfriday but there are lotsa good people in this thread.
- David Gross
from email
the thing that strikes me about this (aside from the obvious) is after seeing this thing pop up like 35-40 times since March its just occurred to me that I don't have any (guy) friends that a) would lick my nipples b) would lick my nipples for a photograph. Maybe I should get out more...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I'm a little scared that I've this has gotten more than 800 comments and almost 200 likes over nearly five months and I still haven't clicked "Hide."
- Scott of Two Countries
It's just a bit of fun. I mean watching how many comment, not the picture content (although I suspect that is all that was too!)
- Ian May
Allright, you guys ready to shoot "mirth and girth"?
- Rick Cogley
For the life of me, I'll never understand the emotion people have around this picture for or against. There's no nudity at all, not even implied nudity. Less dude nudity than a beer commercial or cigarette ad, yet there are people who really really really hate this picture.
- Matthew DeVries
I found a way to get a Tit Theme, and it involves this picture.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hahahaha! It's like a telethon. And after Joey Bishop goes off stage, they flash this picture on the screen. "Won't you think of the CHILDREN?"
- Spidra Webster
It's been a while, hope the magnetism still prevails...
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I just had to bump this once more... gives me a whole new excuse to go look at Phoebe again!
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
Hmmm, where do you think they're from? My guess is Japan...
- sofarsoShawn
The bumping algorithm includes things like novel people posting to it, in addition to thread age, and rapidity of comments. If the same 3 people are talking in a thread, it quits bumping because it's obviously a closed tea party.
- Matthew DeVries
I forgot, also you're a very handsome guy(saw the wedding images), I don't understand why you don't like to share your face. Rochelle is a lucky lady.
- Jimminy Fuller
Jimminy, it's an irrational phobia. No different than people who are afraid of heights, spiders, clowns, or Canada.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, now I'm LMAO at the fear of Canada. People are actually afraid of Canada, or just the fact they don't know if they're British or French?
- Jimminy Fuller
I don't think even Canadians know that difference.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If Friendfeed had sound .. this thread would be all licks and slurps
- Mattb4rd
Sorry Akiva, I think it was the display picture.. I have known male and female Akivas.. Oh and by the way guys I am not afraid of Canada LOL will be there this weekend.. Dave Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes...> - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day."
- David Gross
from email
I popped the 666 cherry and I will get 1000 also.
- Jimminy Fuller
If it gets to 1000 will Akiva lock it so it can sink from our feeds forever? Please?!?
- WorldofHiglet
I think locking this post would be un-FriendFeedian.
- Jason, Incognito
This is the immortal post everyone who uses the service must see it so WoH it just wouldn't be good to lock it.
- Jimminy Fuller
Not everyone see's it, only the people with true class do.
- Sparky
It keeps on going and going and going....
- David Gross
from email
In the Hall of Great Posts at the FriendFeed museum, this shall be hung high on the wall with pride.
- Johnny Worthington
I'M THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN.. AND I LIKE COCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINE
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
*Wispering to Murderface* "Seriously man, I do... A LOT of cocaine."
- Matt Stoddard
It is now September 1st, and this has not reached 1000 comments. I am sorely disappointed. Yet, for some reason, I am uplifted by the smile of this young man, who was fortunate enough to have such great friends that fateful day on the beach.
- Josh Haley
Quick let's add some comments... Gee that guy on the far left is not really getting into the swing of things is he?
- Travis Koger
Travis... bear in mind that we don't know what "main chubby guy's" right hand is doing, or where it's doing whatever it's doing...
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
BUT WE CAN INFER WHAT "MAIN CHUBBY GUY'S" HANDS ARE DOING. BOTH OF THEM.
- Sparky
@Mark, of interest (well not really) is the location of Front Left guy's left hand.
- Travis Koger
The photo of Akiva in the jacuzzi with the Texas A&M cheerleaders would be so much more popular. Now if only someone would post it.
- Christopher Harley
Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Posted March 1st and we are still enduring the wrath! "Akiva's posts, now with more staying power than ever before!"
- Nicholas Kreidberg
YAY! OVER 1000 COMMENTS BLAAAARGBLBLLB
- Josh Haley
It feels like Groundhog Day whenever I see this.
- Andru Edwards
Except that unlike Groundhog Day this is AWESOME!
- Sparky
This thread was how I discovered Akiva. ROFL... Y.M.C.A.! BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP! GAZE AT IT! DON'T LOOK AWAY! >:O I SED DON'T LOOK AWAY!!! ... ^_^
- Danny Minick
You have nothing to fear - I never look away.
- Sparky
On Fark, there was this one thread, that just kept growing and growing. On Fark, it was a single page per thread. And you could post images and gif inline. Well the thread wouldn't die, people just kept posting. I forget which one it was. Anyway, it got so monsterous, that few people going to read/post to it per day (which was only a handfull) accounted for 1/3 of the server load of the site. They eventually had to cull that thread.
- Matthew DeVries
I think everyone who has participated in this thread has 'culled' themselves privately.
- Akiva Moskovitz
What with all the copycat images this has inspired I hope our muse continues to stick around and not get lost in the shuffle of so many knockoffs.
- Sparky
SHUT UP SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!
- Andru Edwards
I refuse to shut up about the glory that is this thread. REFUSE.
- Sparky
Yes, Vezquex, I'm jealous of those guys, it is warm there, nothing like a warm beatch..
- David Gross
from email
Yes, Sparky, they do not know how good they have it there frolicking on the beach while we freeze up here.. Hard to believe it is only 49 degrees, feels like 29.. I bet it's at least 85 degrees on that beach.
- David Gross
from email
Anyone who doesn't appreciate this thread is clearly not developing a FriendFeed iPhone client because this is a great stress test case. (It crashes BuddyFeed, by the way.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Also it exercises the crap out of your thumb trying to scroll down to the bottom of it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Do you need to appreciate the pic in order to appreciate the thread?
- Travis Koger
If I un-collapse this thread, will it break my computer?
- Eivind
Every time this thread gets a bumped, god kills a kitten
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, you may have given some people more reason to keep bumping this thread.
- Victor Ganata
How does it give you thumb exercise? Whatever you're doing, why don't you either use the keyboard or switch to Linux so you can middle-click the scrollbar to jump to where you want? :P
- Tanath
actually this thread does not bother me because I get it in email and gmail groups them and starts new thread after every 100 comments. I have it autoarchived so I do not have to see on phone lol and just see when I look at my ffeed label in gmail.
- David Gross
from email
disgusting? HOW DARE YOU, SIR! That is j-love! and it's beautiful (in it's own way.. a way that shouldn't be seen in public)
- Kyle Johnson
this is probably the most popular feed of 2009 in FF. lol.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I think the one where Robert Scoble gave away money easily beats this one, but this post has staying power. ;-)
- Jason, Incognito
I think that Chinese at FF post was a marriage proposal thing. They were all trying to bump the guy's photo so that it would be the first thing his girlfriend would see when she logged onto FF.
- Kamilah Gill
On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me, 1 salty beach, 2 pairs of glasses, 3 lords a licking, 4 chubby men, 5 santa hats(O_o), 6 rolls of fat, 7 ????, and 8 moobs to view.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hey, I'd be willing to let random guys suck on my nipples if it meant I'd lose all my extra weight. *waits for wiseass random guys to suggest it DOES mean that*
- Spidra Webster
נתתי לו למצוץ את הפטמות שלי, אם לתת להם לשחק על החוף. לפחות לא כל כך קר על החוף.
- David Gross
from email
@Raphael I am not amused. That's an abuse of an idea that could have resulted in people tagging some of the best educational threads on friendfeed, to filter the best most intelligent conversations to be found here. Don't spoil it, not even as a joke.
- April Russo (app103)
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! YOU GUYS ARE ALL SO GORGEOUS WITH CHISELED BODIES!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Very clean and an excellent example of how one can fit a great deal of things on the site without cluttering it up beyond the ability to read the actual homepage. Love the colors. Not to sure regarding the logo, perhaps it needs to be more symmetrical for the page to balance the logo w/ the page itself; I do love the writer picture;
- H0llywoodWh0re
If you swap the image to the right side so it more closely lines up with the right column it'll work better. I'm also not keen on the different widths for the buttons in the right column. Colour scheme is nice and suits the site content.
- Mark H
Thanks for the feedback! I'll see what I can implement today. You were all very helpful :)
- Renee Hendricks
And thanks, I guess, BSCW for stopping by with "hidemyass.com".
- Renee Hendricks
I draw a distinction between functional programming and pure functional programming. Functional programming is a style. Pure functional programming is an anti-style. The article seems to be talking about pure functional programming.
- Bruce Lewis
To be honest, I never really got functional programming. I just assumed it was some sort of masochism. Perhaps I've never gone deep enough -- just projects in school and the lost productivity due to mucking with .emacs on occasion. I've been meaning to dig into clojure, but I don't have the time.
- Joe Beda ()
I've done some programming in Clojure. I find that it's a pleasant experience most of the time, but sometimes it takes me a lot of thought to figure out how to write functional code that is simple and short as what I can do with imperative code.
- Gary Burd
My impression (from working with SML in school) is that writing code turns into solving a puzzle. You have to shift your thinking and get creative on how to make it work in a purely functional way. That can be fun, but it also seems like a lot of work when you just want to get something done.
- Joe Beda ()
emacs lisp is the opposite of functional programming.
- Jim Norris
Learning LISP+functional programming was one of the highlights of my geek career. It opened my eyes.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The "make A depend on B" example is poor. IME, FP is a mindset, and once you acquire it (which takes time, longer if you're more experienced) it's no more of a puzzle than IP. The problem with FP isn't that it doesn't work, but that the benefits just aren't worth ghettoizing yourself.
- ⓞnor
from Android
The problem is that humans aren't functional.
- Paul Buchheit
Kris: bah; it's a principled response to a pragmatic question. I think we're all in agreement that purely functional programming is "cleaner" in keeping dependencies explicit (indeed, you don't have a choice), but *in practice* some quick and dirty hacks work very well and save you a lot of trouble. Software engineering is engineering, which means you have to be able to make trade-offs and not always take the high road.
- Tudor Bosman
And Paul, yeah, people are often dysfunctional :)
- Tudor Bosman
Use the best style for the problem at hand. There are times when imperative style gets in the way of expressing a solution, a times when FP does the same. Don't be religious about adhering to rules, this often produces bad code. Consider the OO astronauts who overemphasize "best practices", which lead to tons and tons of labyrinthine boilerplate just to avoid breaking stylistic rules.
- Ray Cromwell
Tudor: I use Scala for most of my work these days, so I appreciate the convenience of having both options. I've just found that almost invariably, the quick and dirty approach comes back to haunt me eventually. The primary difference between software engineering and other disciplines of engineering is that frequently in software (at least with successful projects) the work is *never done* and the cost of the shortcut will have to be paid eventually - with interest.
- kris. nuttycombe
I think that's a quintessential acid test, even personality test for programmers: have you ever been or do you feel you are destined to be bitten by informality in programming practices and languages? I think, unlike Kris, my answer is: no. Hence my personal approach of employing minimal design and rapid-development languages (currently ruby). I simply wouldn't enjoy a more formal approach, nor would I find it worth the overhead.
- Christopher Galtenberg
I think it depends on the size of the project. Even in duck typed languages people fall back on pseudo-formalisms, code style and idiom conventions, to ensure some kind of sanity and readability. I would assert that once a project grows beyond a certain number of programmers and lines of code, degrees of freedom start to become restricted.
- Ray Cromwell
I find there's a survivorship bias. If I look at the projects that are around for a while and ask myself, do I wish they were cleaner from the start, I'd say yes. But lots of my projects don't get that far (my guess is 90% of them die within a few months), and the effort designing those projects for the long term is … wasted.
- Amit Patel
Maybe Dysfunctional Programming would be a better paradigm?
- j1m
Scheme works great for impure functional programming.
- Bruce Lewis
CG, I'm surprised that you don't feel like you've suffered as a result of poor design, given the previous project you were working on. How much time was spent reworking things over and over? How much of that time could have been better spent if the parts of that system had been less tightly coupled?
- kris. nuttycombe
Kris, you make some good arguments, but I think they really hold up in the real world. Yes, functional programming prevents you from using quick and dirty approaches that cause pain later. But that often comes at the expense of making it harder to get the first iteration right. In most real world cases, it's more important to just get *something* done and working, and worry about fixing...
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- Tobias Jungen
Though it was procedural, I sometimes get nostalgic for classic ASP. It was the first platform I learned and the first scripting language I learned was (VBscript). I've done some assembly language but focused more on the ASP and then .NET
- Melanie Reed
Tobias: How does using functional techniques inhibit prototyping? In my applications, at least, the only real difference between the functional and imperative code is that in the functional code it's clear where the side effects with external systems (database, web services, etc.) occur just from the types.
- kris. nuttycombe
Kris, I didn't do much suffering *or* rework :) I mainly built new things, flat-out replaced old/bad stuff with new functionality (which may or may not have been designed substantially better), and most importantly, I found ways to run the existing stuff faster. I've found that old, poorly-designed apps are actually remarkably stable once they stop timing out (the previous app being only one instance of this discovery).
- Christopher Galtenberg
I don't know; maybe it's just that since I work mostly on transaction-oriented systems I don't have as much need for mutable data as others. Since there's other people's money involved, I vastly prefer the safety that purity provides.
- kris. nuttycombe
Kris, as was pointed out earlier in this discussion, humans don't inherently think in a functional way. Our brain is trained to think imperatively, so I don't think it's unreasonable to say that imperative programming comes more naturally. In my experience, every time I have attacked a problem with the functional approach, it took a considerable amount of rethinking and trial-and-error...
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- Tobias Jungen
Do humans think infix, prefix, or postfix? Do we think recursively or iteratively? Deductively or Inductively? I don't think its a matter of naturally thinking a certain way, we learn ways of thinking, and they become our vocabulary for building other things. If you raised a baby on functional thinking, would if find imperative thinking hard?
- Ray Cromwell
Tobias: With respect to the notion that imperative programming "comes more naturally" I think that I need to say "CITATION NEEDED." Programmers have been trained to think imperatively by continuous exposure to imperative languages and as a result of being taught to think of programs as recipes instead of as declarative statements about the problems they're trying to solve. There is, to my knowledge, very little well-controlled psychological research on programming.
- kris. nuttycombe
Ray: You might be interested to talk to Tony Morris - (http://blog.tmorris.net/) as I believe that he has been attempting to raise his children to think functionally. He has claimed that when he showed one of his children the statement "x = x + 1" that the response was "But that doesn't make any sense!"
- kris. nuttycombe
I think Ray's earlier point, essentially that you should use the right tool for the job, is the most important lesson here. A functional approach works best for some things, an imperative approach for others. You probably want to avoid mutable state for transactional systems, but it sure is useful for simulations and UI code. What you want to avoid like the plague is any approach that prefers "purity" to utility -- I spell that "r e l i g i o n" and it mixes poorly with my goal of getting shit done :)
- Joel Webber
from BuddyFeed
Kris: With all due respect, maybe the fact that imperative languages have remained the dominant force in programming is evidence that humans prefer that style of thinking. I'll concede that there is little, if any empirical study on this topic, so debating it further is pointless. Regardless of which style "comes naturally", as I have so poorly phrased, the reality is that most...
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- Tobias Jungen
Tobias: Certainly. Can we also agree that imperative techniques are very often applied where very trivial functional approaches are strictly better? The most significant example I can think of is the way that operations on collections are usually handled in Java and C++ - and I take Google Collections, Python & Erlang's list comprehensions, and Ruby's Enumerable as evidence for my position. Iteration just sucks.
- kris. nuttycombe
I agree that one should avoid religion, use the correct tools for a job and do what's practical. My frustration with functional programming is that some problems are more difficult to solve using functional programming. A FIFO queue is an example of one of these problems. The imperative implementation is easy for me while the functional version takes some thought and more lines of code. I am finding that the frustration is sometimes not worth the benefit of fp.
- Gary Burd
One response would be: Who builds things like FIFO queues from scratch? In Haskell (for example) you'd just use Data.Sequence, which among other things supports efficient push/pop from both ends, using some spiffy data structure ("2-3 finger trees") internally. Another response might be: Pointer network mutation algorithms seem natural to you and I, but people raised differently report finding functional algorithms more natural and comprehensible -- for them, it's pointer whacking that hurts their brain.
- ⓞnor
The first response supports my point. Haskell uses spiffy data structures to solve what is a simple problem in imperative programming. Your second response mentions what I think is the heart of the problem. Imperative programmers have an extra tool in their belt: the ability to whack memory cells with new values.
- Gary Burd
Well, clearly you trade off "capability" for "comprehensibility", just as you do when choosing Java over assembly language. The question is whether it's worth it, and that's not a question that can be resolved in a point-by-point debate, and programmer productivity studies never seem to be quite conclusive. Personally, I think community ghettoization is a much, much bigger deal than any technical feature of the language itself -- but that's just my extremely subjective conclusion.
- ⓞnor
I agree that community ghettoization is a big deal. Clojure mitigates the problem by allowing easy calling to and from Java. As nice as Erlang is (except the syntax), I would not choose Erlang for a project because the community is small.
- Gary Burd
The thing is, Haskell's solution to the FIFO queue problem solves *more* problems than does its imperative equivalent, because it's inherently threadsafe and has universally predictable behavior. The same cannot be said of a queue based upon a mutable data structure. The functional solution is future-proof whereas its imperative counterpart is not.
- kris. nuttycombe
Kris: Absolutely. Basic collections operations are almost always handled better in a functional way. It's no coincidence that mapreduce as a framework is rising in popularity. In the end, walking the middle ground is the best path - and that's why I enjoy languages that allow both paradigms (as you seem to as well, given your enthusiasm for scala).
- Tobias Jungen
There are some concepts more succinctly expressed vs internal iteration (each/map/etc) and some for which external iteration is simpler (multipass loops over multiple collections), this is why I think religious purity is a bad thing, since it leads people to choose more complex solutions for purely religious reasons. However, I do like the conceptual simplicity of pure functions and...
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- Ray Cromwell
I found this demo-version animated speech-capable avatar on a website, and "she" will say whatever you type into the text area. Somehow (and I have no idea how!) the words "May I suck your throbbing tumescent member?" were entered. I feel so dirty!
Dang. The tank didn't have any aggro problems? :D
- Victor Ganata
they have crazy aoe now, the concept of which baffles me. most of my guildies are around that though, with the mages doing that on single targets.
- mjc
No, that was actually one of the better H HoS runs. We had trouble for a couple of wipes due to the healer dying, but once everyone started killing casters first and we stopped doing the lame LoS exploit, it was pretty enjoyable. My dps went up to 3k by the end of the run and the tank was just fine.
- Mark Trapp
Yeah, their AoE is just nuts. Who thought, "man, rogues aren't doing enough, let's give them an AoE that really should be called 'I Win'?"
- Mark Trapp
I get boned in there as a healer, I've just quit going
- mjc
rogues are supposed to be a single-target class and that really upsets me :( I used to play one
- mjc
Yeah, I've actually had a lot better luck with fighting in the open in HoR, without trying to use LoS. But then a kill order is a must. Man, I want to be ToC25 geared.
- Victor Ganata
Dismantle and FoK were retarded to give to rogues. But they finally shut the hell up about how underpowered they were. Consequently, I don't bother playing my rogue anymore and enjoy stunlocking when I pvp as prot warrior.
- Arlan Koizumi
LoS with alcoves are easier with Paladin and DK but can get into some aoe troubles when phantom mages are involved. As a warrior, I can't use that strategy due to no passive threat. It's easier being by either doorways. I still have problems picking up all the mobs, but I'm convinced those waves in H HoR were meant to reintroduce CC.
- Arlan Koizumi
LoSing in the alcoves is a real pain due to barely being able to make out what's going on and some people's machines don't handle that much action in one spot well. On top of mobs going through walls anyway, I much prefer the out-in-the-open approach, especially if there's a DK who can death grip the riflemen. You also get a little bit from LoS if you stick near the instance portal.
- Mark Trapp
ff.im is what I tend to use. bit.ly works well with Twitter, especially if you wanted to track statistics. goo.gl works fine with FeedBurner on your blog. bit.ly looks like it has the most money and corporate support behind it, if you are afraid links might eventually fail.
- Louis Gray
bit.ly: stat tracking, great API ... that said, don't use one unless you absolutely have to!
- Louis Simoneau