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I'd just like to personally say thank you to all of you for your support with Flickchart. It's been incredibly exciting and rewarding to see so many of you enjoying it and sharing here on FriendFeed. It really means a lot to us, and we appreciate you and all the help you've given us through your comments, suggestions, and opinions. Thank you.

May 28 - Comment - Like - Share

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Thank you (and curse you!) for making such a fun and addicting website! Glad to be part of something special. :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

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Ditto to what Haggis said - when you rollin out Tunechart?! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

It's addicting alright. ;) - Alejandro

my son and I played it on the way home on the train tonight - ever selection we made was the same which is a little freaky as a dad :) - mike "glemak" dunn

Don't mention it. - AJ Batac

@Marco: Man, you're SO close on calling that domain name. Did you guys think we were stopping at movies? ;) - Jeremy Thompson

Thank you for such a great service! - Kevin Whalen from email

Thank you for such a great service! - Kevin Whalen

@jeremy lol dammit you mean I squatted on tunechart.com for nothing? (kidding of course I have no connection to Miami) hellz no! i would have been shocked if you did stop there! in fact I'm heading to GoDaddy right now to grab Colorchart.com, Countrychart.com, universechart.com, shampoochart.com, carbonatedbeveragechart.com and cheesechart.com so I can head you guys off at the pass and sell you the domain names for a quick buck ; p Seriously though - VERY much looking forward to the tune version! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Don't forget videogamechart.com and boardgamechart.com and tvchart.com and bookchart and fastfoodrestaurantchart.com and cookiechart.com and sitechart.com....the possibilities are ENDLESS. The music one should be next, though, definitely. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Music - is definitely next... others are planned. - Nathan Chase

Nathan, with these charts you are really spoiling us. - Andrew Roche

That's probably not what some FriendFeed users will be saying once we launch them all with FF integration. - Jeremy Thompson

I think you're overlooking Crystal Pepsi. - Jeremy Thompson

Vanilla vs Cherry? … Coke that is. - Andrew Roche

DR. PEPPER IS BETTER. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

You kids and your carbonated beverages. [/old man] - Steven Perez from IM

Wheeeeeee! Wait.... I'm actually supposed to be coding this stuff right now. - Jeremy Thompson

lol lindsey that one would have to be a choice between cherry coke and Robitussin for me blecht! what no Dr. Enuff? - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

FlickChart is great fun and I am only glad to be of help. Thank you! - Parth Awasthi

Yeah, FlickChart is awesome. If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

It's brilliant Nathan, & it sure gets discussions going here http://friendfeed.com/dalziel... - Glenn Slaven

You're welcome, thank you for the service. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Yeah, thanks a bunch. The service has been really sweet and very addicting. Kudos. - Jon, the Beartato of '10

Wow, I just noticed I can moderate comments to this thread. How odd! Looks like I could even delete it. - Daniel J. Pritchett

that is strange Daniel - perhaps a bug of DM'ing large groups of people? - Flickchart

Maybe "delete" just means "remove me from this list". I'll try it on some other less awesome thread. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

No, thank YOU! I have spent hours on the site and have over a thousand rankings already. It's a fun site! I can't wait to see the music one!!! - David Cook - 2010!!! from email

Thanks Nathan & Jeremy. Flickchart is a great site & the FF integration is especially cool ! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Hello! I'd like to extend a request to see if you've used Flickchart lately. If not, were you just not interested enough to continue using it? Not enough features? If you have used Flickchart lately, what's kept you coming back? Would you have any advice for us to draw you back to the site on a regular basis? Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance! Appreciate it! - Nathan Chase

For me, I've visited it a few times in the past year (based on when people mention it or you mention there's an update). It's a fun distraction, but I'm not sure what would keep me visiting regularly. My favorite movies of all time don't change that often, and I'm not sure what I can do with that list once I have it other than point it out as an example of what Flickchart does (so, a... more... - Mark Trapp

Honestly, I haven't used it in a long time and it's for two reasons: I began to lose interest once the novelty wore off and I just haven't really had time. I think about it a lot and always think to myself, 'I should spend some time on Flickchart,' but then I see an inbox or feed reader with a ton of unread items, Audrey starts crawling all over me, etc. Plus, since I've been working again, I've not had time for much of anything like this. - Akiva Moskovitz

I pop on fairly often, I guess - a few times a week. But I feel like I spend a lot of time trying to get new adds in place (especially since they all come in right at the middle, which is not too bad if they should be higher, I just rank them a bunch of times, but if they should be lower it's a major pain since it's really hard to move things DOWN on the list), and that feels more like... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I haven't, but then my love affair with movies has subsided greatly since I graduated film school. It's me, not you. ;) - Derrick

Yeah, I haven't used it in a while. I just haven't been watching as many movies as I used to... for lack of time. However, if I got a question a day from Flickchart in my email, asking me if A was better than B, I might click on it. That's an idea for you... - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from email

I've been watching more than ever, but I forget to go rank them sometimes (also the ranking individual movies on the three-at-a-time page is less fun - didn't I hear that you were working on a new way to do that?). Ooh, fanciful idea based on Ahsan's comment - integrate with the Netflix RSS feeds or something so when you return a movie Flickchart automatically pops it up to rank. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I'm never really at my computer when I use flickchart so I guess if I had any feedback (which I haven't thus far because the service has been great!) it would be to perhaps optimize the mobile site for android phones. For me it the site hangs a lot, and I can't actually access the charts on the top. But it's a small criticism as I can still choose what films I like with reckless abandon! :D - Jon, the Beartato of '10

Jeremy Thompson

Funny People vs. A Serious Man - http://www.flickchart.com/0A8280A...

November 1 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

haha... recent watches you were not particularly fond of... - Nathan Chase

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I really enjoyed watching A Serious Man and really hope it all means something. If so, I love it. But I'm not sure it all meant anything. - Jeremy Thompson

That's how I felt about Synecdoche, New York - Nathan Chase

Haven't seen either, but will once they reach blu-ray. - Derrick

Nathan Chase

Honey, I Shrunk the Kids vs. O Brother, Where Art Thou? - http://www.flickchart.com/F5BB764...

June 16 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

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the first inclination is to go with O Brother, but I LOVE Honey I Shrunk The Kids - watched it umpteen times when I was younger - it got my vote! - Nathan Chase

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Coen Bros. Please. *judges Nathan harshly* - Derrick

come on Derrick! Shrunk is pure fun. I love that movie. - Nathan Chase

O Brother - RAPatton

*arms crossed, lips pursed, and glaring at Nathan* - Derrick

if it was No Country, I might have gone that way - Nathan Chase

i havent seen Fargo - which apparently is also the bee's knees - Nathan Chase

I concur Nathan.... - jamar78

thank you jamar. :) - Nathan Chase

I hated Fargo. - Derrick

No Country > Fargo. - Jeremy Thompson

Lebowski > No Country. - Jeremy Thompson

*revvs up wood chipper* - Micah Wittman

*judges Derrick harshly* - jbrotherlove

No Country vs. O Brother is a matchup I hope I never get. - Jeremy Thompson

I'd put O Brother over No Country, but I am a junkie for the classical period - RAPatton

Coen Brothers FTW! - jcunwired

O Brother, Miller's, No Country, Barton Fink, Raising AZ, love love love. Fargo and Lebowski? BLECH. - Derrick

Miller's No Country, Fargo, AZ, and Blood Simple are the loves for me. Shame on you all for forgetting Blood Simple ;) - Michael W. May

O Brother and the soundtrack too. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

O Brother - Andrew Roche

man, I wish our "By Director" ranking filters were ready. ;) - Nathan Chase

You are dead to me. DEAD TO ME. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Hah, just realized I'm on a search and this is a really old post. Still, my sentiment stands. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

hahaha Jandy... if it makes you feel any better, Fargo is my #86, Honey I Shrunk The Kids is my #127. :) - Nathan Chase

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[TITLE ADD] "The Maltese Falcon" is ready to rank at Flickchart! Thanks @syntheticono, @Rhetorican, @bobfreelander - http://www.flickchart.com/movie...

July 22 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Thank you! - cdogzilla

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I was able to shoot it right up my list to number two, but now I keep getting Maltese Falcon vs. Maltese Falcon instead of it matching up against my current number one. - cdogzilla

I'm taking a look at that bug right now, Chris. We've got reports all over the place of it showing its ugly face. - Jeremy Thompson

YES! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy only chimed in once she heard it was a popular bug. - Jeremy Thompson

Yep, I love when people encounter bugs. :p Silly. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Nathan Chase

Teen Wolf vs. The 'Burbs - http://www.flickchart.com/855171E...

July 1 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

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Burbs, Burbs, a million times Burbs. God how I love the Burbs. And yes, I'm serious. - Jeremy Thompson

Both are classic comedies but my vote goes for the Burbs. - LonelyBob

Snehasis Patra

Gone With the Wind vs. The Day After Tomorrow - http://www.flickchart.com/CC15AB0...

June 8 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

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@flickchart why there is no poster 4 Gone With the Wind? - Snehasis Patra

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we're missing the poster on the site - but we'll get it added soon... - Nathan Chase

@Snehasis - Sorry, we're missing posters of some obscure and critically not well received movies like that. :P - Jeremy Thompson

Gone With the Wind critically not well received? - Snehasis Patra

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@ScottEWeinberg @jasonwhyte Depends on the POV, I guess. For awards, sure. I'm not sure how much a typical moviegoer/user relates to NY/LA.

June 28 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

But you have to pick some date. And the NY/LA release-date is the most standard you're probably going to get, for US anyway. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

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All these ignorant posts have been me, btw, perhaps obviously, not Nathan, who is lazy and sleeping already at 5am. - Jeremy Thompson

And I'm not sure about the standard dates; if we use IMDB as a touchstone, for instance, we get the US wide release date, which seems pretty standard to me. - Jeremy Thompson

Not to mention more relatable to the common moviegoer who's likely to be the bulk of our user base. If I know I saw, say, There Will Be Blood on opening day of wide release with all my friends in Jan 08, I'd expect to see that in my 2008 filter if I want to figure out my fave movie from the theaters that year. I might not know anything about a premier or when it might've been -- not from a user's perspective. - Jeremy Thompson

I think in the end, the only universal way to resolve it is to just have both/all relevant dates with proper tagging to set context. Users would relate to wide release dates, generally; insiders might prefer premiers; and awards would be tied to their years of eligibility, which likely would also be the premier dates. They're all distinctly meaningful. - Jeremy Thompson

Well, I'm not a typical user, then, by those guidelines. I always keep track of movies by NY/LA/limited release dates, as they're far more predictable than wide release dates. A lot of films don't have fixed wide release dates at all - it'll be one week for NY/LA, the next week for Austin/Chicago/St. Louis, the week after that for other large cities, the week after that for relatively... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I might be going out on a limb here, but despite the somewhat slow trickle to some degree, don't most films have a "BAM! Now it's 2000+ theaters" date? - Jeremy Thompson

I'd say it depends on the film. I doubt most foreign releases hit 2000+ theatres, unless they're by Almodovar or Del Toro or Miyazaki or funded by a major US studio. Of course, bringing up foreign films brings up other issues - do you count the release in country of origin, or US release (which could create delays of dozens of years, as in the case of Godard's Made in USA or Melville's... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

It sounds like maybe it depends more on the category of film than on the film. Foreign ones and special cases (like bans) definitely add wrinkles. I suppose based on my logic of relating the best to the most users, the most correct course would be to use localized dates for everything when possible. - Jeremy Thompson

But it's interesting: I might want to rank a single year to compare the 30 movies I saw in the theater that year (and since I saw, let's say, Cloverfield and TWBB in a double-header on opening week, I expect them to both be in there). BUT...maybe I want to rank them by year of completion/premier and see just how visionary particular films were in the context of their contemporaries. Both valid causes, but with different date settings. - Jeremy Thompson

I guess I read too many critics lists - I feel uncomfortable when my Flickchart list for, say, 1941 includes Gone with the Wind (though I think that was actually corrected to 1939 the last time I checked), when every critic in the world ever places it on their best of 1939 list. Same thing with TWBB - if I had it on my best list, how does it make sense for it to be on my Best of 2008... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

On Cleo I'd say nah. Wide release then premiere date, at most. Good point about the critics' lists, though. I don't read any of them, but a lot of people do. - Jeremy Thompson

Yeah, I was being facetious about Cleo. :) But that's a major reason that I do two end-of-year lists on my blog - best of the year and best I saw during the year. And the best of year is up for modification until at least April, when all the major awards contenders have had time to come out everywhere. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Okay, so that's what I was saying about the two perspectives, then (user perspective and movie perspective). As I said above, from an information/academic pov the two dates carry different (valuable) meanings and might respectively be missed by different groups of people. Seems the only truly accurate means is to include both and contextualize them. - Jeremy Thompson

In that case, the only TRULY accurate means would be to include the factual premiere date and ask the user to enter the date they saw it. I rarely have such clear thoughts in my head as you, apparently, about when I saw stuff. The years all run together in my head. If you asked me what year I saw Lost in Translation, I'd guess 2003 because it's a 2003 movie and I know I saw it in... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

tehKenny, Dork

Until Flickchart gets Dr. Strangelove in rotation, I am afraid I will have to be boycotting the service.

May 27 - Comment - Like - Share

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Seriously, What the fuck? - tehKenny, Dork

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He'll see the big board! Do you realize what a serious breach of security that is! - mikepk

You'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola Company. - tehKenny, Dork

Fair enough. :) It's a corrupted record that I have to correct in the database -- not a complete oversight or a principled anti-Strangelove stand. - Jeremy Thompson

http://friendfeed.com/flickch... - Nathan Chase

huzzah! - Nathan Chase

YAY! - tehKenny, Dork

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@jasonwhyte I'd agree on TWBB, but the dates are tricky. E.g., IMDB shows the release date as 01/11/08 ('07 was premier in FF or NYC).

June 28 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Is this about There Will Be Blood? I still think you should count it for the year that the Academy Awards (or awards in the film's home country) counts it - TWBB was eligible for 2007 based on release dates in NY or LA. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

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That could be. I might agree. I'm far from a pro on movie release date insider culture. Originally we were going based on IMDB release dates, which at US wide release seem not entirely unreasonable. - Jeremy Thompson

IMDb usually lists both premier and wide releases, don't they? And don't they usually give the year based on the premier release? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

http://www.imdb.com/title... | Release Date: 11 January 2008 (USA) -- that's the one that gets the front-page billing. - Jeremy Thompson

Yet it has (2007) in the title line - Michael W. May

Right. That's the confusing part about tying some of the data together. It seems like the parenthetical year is the premier date always, but for the actual dd/mm/yyyy release date it's US wide release. - Jeremy Thompson

And yes, they do have all the others, which is what I mean by maintaining all the relevant ones with proper context. I'm far from a film expert - same with most of my friends - but I honestly can't remember the last time a NY/LA premier date came up in casual conversation about upcoming movies; it's always of the format "When's [X] coming out?" "Oh, it's [insert wide release date here], wanna go?" - Jeremy Thompson

NTM that when a poster (which we show) has a giant, ominous date on it, it's generally wide release, right? Marketing also ties chiefly into that date (as with the upcoming 9, on 9/9/9). If there's a movie with a massive broad marketing push at 1/1/11, and the premier was in late 2010, as a regular user I'd think it's an error to find it in 2010. But maybe with really specific dates they coordinate the two. I have no idea, honestly. And clearly. :) - Jeremy Thompson

A lot of really small films, though, you can't tell. Big films will come out day and date everywhere. Medium films may have a set limited and wide release date, but small films are more likely to be "here's the limited release date, and it'll be coming to your town...maybe sometime." Just for fun, try to find out when Francis Ford Coppola's new film Tetro is going to open wide - say,... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I see the argument for wide release dates, but the problem is, not every film HAS a wide release. So you either need to make an arbitrary decision to treat them differently than other films, or somehow make an overarching rule that includes both big and small films - which is to use the premiere date in the country of origin. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

The academic side of me has no problem with your argument, and it's certainly a neater solution. Again, for awards, perfect. But for giving expected results to what I think will be the broad majority of users, IMDB might be onto something there (wide US release if there is one, else premiere). - Jeremy Thompson

Either way, thanks for the angles. Gives Nathan and me more to argue about when we decide which way to go. And by "argue" I mean "commence our octagon cage fight to the death." Although at the moment we're in peaceful harmony on the point that it's a rather annoying problem to deal with. - Jeremy Thompson

:) Hope I didn't come across too argumentative. Release dates are a pain, especially in December when studios release films into one or two theatres solely to get awards eligibility. I'm honestly not sure it will matter that much to the majority of users. It matters to me because I care about getting my best-of-year lists right, and it annoys me when something shows up the wrong year.... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Hah, I don't mind. I'm by far, FAR at the disadvantage here -- I have the combined cultural knowledge of a sack of sea monkeys. I think about movies like Pulp Fiction, which went May-October from premiere to wide...shift that to Nov-March, and a movie like Watchmen would show up in the 2008 filter on the site, even though it opened to sold-out theaters, long lines, and IMAX... more... - Jeremy Thompson

Hiro Asari

Flickchart doesn't know about Dr. Strangelove. Seriously? http://www.flickchart.com/SearchR...

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May 26 - Comment - Like - Share

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Confirmed :-/ It's in the database, but the data's messed up a bit, so it doesn't show up on the site. We have some general data cleanup to do, and that will definitely be included. Don't worry, we didn't deem it "unworthy" in a sudden fit of stupidity or anything. I mean, we have those fits and all, but Strangelove wasn't a casualty. - Jeremy Thompson

Thanks for checking, Jeremy. - Hiro Asari

http://friendfeed.com/flickch... - huzzah! - Nathan Chase

Nathan Chase to Nathan's feed, Meme

My Current Desktop (Meme)

June 2 - Comment - Like - Share

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I like that wallpaper. - Admiral Anika

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yeah i like dark wallpapers - Nathan Chase

Yeah - I keep it uncluttered. If I need to get to something I open Windows Explorer, or use Launchy - Nathan Chase

i like that! - Cee Bee

where do i find the desktop image??? :) that's a must have. - Frankie Warren

@Frankie - I don't recall where I found it... :( - Nathan Chase

That looks like one from Vladstudio, I think. - ha3rvey (wants confit)

ah ha3rvey, you're right! http://vladstudio.com/wallpap... - Nathan Chase

Vladstudio has great stuff... - Nathan Chase

I love Vladstudio. my current work wallpaper is from there. I thought this had that vibe :) - holly

what are some other resources for desktop images? i know about www.interfacelift.com, that has some cool stuff. - Frankie Warren

Reminds me of Hansel and Gretel :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Nice desktop, but holy crap you have everything but the kitchen sink running. How many services are you actually running or do you care? - aerobroken

Hahaha... 9 of those tray icons all belong to Digsby - it looks like more than it actually is - Nathan Chase

I like it! - Shevonne

Expand your quick launch and send another screenshot. I bet it meets your system tray in the middle, or all of your tasks collapse into one button. That would be awesome. - Jeremy Thompson

Haha... no there's only like 2-3 more apps on the quick launch - Nathan Chase

I had the same wallpaper. Vladstudio ftw - Ethan

Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Unforgiven vs. Serenity - http://www.flickchart.com/FC773A2...

May 26 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

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Blame Flickchart. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

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Good as Unforgiven is, Serenity sticks to my soul like pop culture glue - Never underestimate the power of closure closed well! :P - Michael W. May

Hee, I actually picked Unforgiven. Despite my Whedon fangirliness, Serenity disappointed me compared with Firefly. It was a crisis of indecision for a good few minutes, though. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Sans spoilers: the scene where Munny rendevous with the prostitute to receive payment and console (?) The Kid's guilty conscience, under the lone tree? "We all got it coming, kid." Tremendous symbolism, that. This is one of the best Westerns ever made. - wyclif

Jandy - Agreed, Serenity is no Firefly. And it just can't serve as a standalone movie, so it's hard to rate it as such. - Jeremy Thompson

*ponder* I recall when Serenity came out, part of the praise it got was from people with no Firefly history saying how good it was. - Michael W. May

That's interesting, MWM. I went to see it with a few friends who knew nothing about Firefly (I, of course, rabid fan). They came out not quite loving it because they had no prior relationship with the characters, and the film didn't give them enough emotional connection to them to make them care. I came out not quite loving it because the film failed to follow through on so many of... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I thought she was becoming both in the series. Ever since the moment where she took the pistol from Kaylee to defend the rear hatch, I had been waiting for her to go off like that. Hands of Blue, I think that was too abstract in background and too immense a secret to unfold in a 120 min feature. The Blue Sun Corp feels to me like the syndicate behind most things if you dig deep enough... more... - Michael W. May

Now I wanna watch the series and film again :P - Michael W. May

Don't forget to read the comics as well. ;) They link the series to the movie. - Brome

Serenity. - Kol Tregaskes

Serenity - cdogzilla

Serenity - FUNdalina

Jandy, just to be clear... we agree that River's "I can kill you with my brain" was just a joke to scare Jayne, right? - Brome

Darn have not seen serenity yet............. - Kevin J Hatton

They tried to get me with that choice too, but I went Serenity immediately. Sometimes my clickin' finger is quicker than my brain. Who am I to argue with instinct? - Joe Pierce

serenity. - Joel Robert Perez

Serenity - Shannon

joey

Monsters, Inc. (3-Disc Edition) [Blu-ray] - http://www.amazon.com/dp...

June 22 from Amazon.com wish list - Comment - Like - Share

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Haven't seen Monsters, Inc. yet. I need to get on that - Johnny

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Cheaper here in the UK on Amazon. But only a 2 disc edition - £13.98 = $22 - Giraffes Up In The AIr

Still awesome movie though! :) - Giraffes Up In The AIr

Johnny = great Disney/Pixar movie...well worth it. And it's not just for kids. - Joel Robert Perez

Lindsey, it's mine, too! I absolutely adore it. - joey

So what's on the 2nd and 3rd discs? - Andrew C

I'm not sure; on some of the Disney Blu-Ray packages, one is the movie, the next is bonus features, and the third is either a standard DVD or digital-ready copy. - joey

Agreed. I love all the Pixar movies, but Monsters, Inc. is absolutely the uncontested #1 for me. A cuter movie there almost could not be. - Jeremy Thompson

I just saw Up and this may be a bit contested. I think I need to buy this soon so that I can rekindle my undying adoration for this one. ;) - joey

Oh, and for your entertainment (and my embarrassment): http://www.flickr.com/photos... - joey

joey, <3 the picture! :) - Yolanda

No need for shame, great picture Joey! - Toby Graham

Haha, thanks. My sister has a Sully costume and makes a much cooler monster than I do. - joey

Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

AI in Far Cry 2: "Where'd he go? I lost him!" Me: "Uh, I'm still on the Jeep turret, idiots, same place I've been shooting at you from for like TWO MINUTES."

June 21 - Comment - Like - Share

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Multiplayer? - Michael W. May

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Nope. Single player. The AI's pretty smart generally, but those two guys were... not. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

*snicker* Still is a need for a good coop multiplayer fps. Any Raven Shield fans know what I mean. I was hoping this might be it. - Michael W. May

Jandy: have you tried DeadSpace?! one of the best games I've ever played.. bioshock too :) - Johnny from BuddyFeed

MWM - Rainbow Six: Vegas? Gears of War? Army of Two? Halo? GRAW? And applicable sequels. A friend and I used to love playing those when we lived in the same city - can't seem to be on Live at the same time (plus he's the one who owned most of those). - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Johnny, I loved BioShock. Really looking forward to the sequel. DeadSpace looked a little too survival horror for my tastes - I've also stayed away from Left4Dead, though everyone raves about it. Flitcraft, Infamous I don't know off the top of my head - I'll look it up. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy, I'm looking forward to the sequel as well. I also have a very bad call of duty 4 habit! - Johnny

I'm trying to build a list of gamers to follow on FF (http://friendfeed.com/jschrep) Any help? - Johnny

You speak console, I mean real games *inno* - Michael W. May

@Johnny: Check out the friendfeed Gamers room https://friendfeed.com/friendf... for a good start on that. I'm sure there are other rooms I don't know off too *hinthintnudgenudge* - Michael W. May

MWM, I'll get back to you when I can buy a gaming PC for under $300, like I can a console. :p - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Mmm, Bioshock.... - Jeremy Thompson

Ah, that's why I haven't heard of it. I'm Xbox-only, and don't keep up with PS3 news. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Modern Times vs. Napoleon Dynamite - http://www.flickchart.com/96DB0B3...

June 19 from Flickchart - Comment - Like - Share

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Napoleon Dynamite! [Mainly because I've never seen ANY Charlie Chaplin films.] - Akiva Moskovitz

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There's no question for me on this one - now I'm sharing for stats. :) My ranking: Modern Times #4, Napoleon Dynamite #749. Global ranking: Modern Times #732, Napoleon Dynamite: #180. WOW. First time I've been that much opposite the global rankings. So.........guess which one I'm gonna pick? :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Notice the new comment feature on Flickchart... - अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das

I just didn't get the humour of Napoleon Dynamite. - Michael W. May

Abhishek, I know about it. I prefer commenting here. Note that you can hide all Flickchart entries on FriendFeed now, if you'd prefer not to see them. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

MWM, I enjoyed Napoleon Dynamite. It should probably be much higher than 700s, but compared with Modern Times? Not even close. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Michael, Jandy, what we see here has been dubbed the “Napoleon Dynamite” problem in regards to mathematically predicting entertainment interests (the "Netflix Prize" write-up: http://www.nytimes.com/2008... ) - Micah Wittman

Thanks, Micah. That was an interesting read :) I did think the story was sweet, but the humour fell completely flat for me. I've got it as a 6 on IMDb, though that is far lower or higher than most I know. - Michael W. May

Welcome, Michael! - Micah Wittman

Micah, I remember reading that! Heh. You'd guess from it's current standings in my Flickchart rankings that I'd rate Napoleon Dynamite a 1, but actually, I'd rate it a 3 (out of 5). It's funny, but not as funny as it thinks it is. It's good, but it's not great. The problem is, I'd think an average rating is also not very useful to algorithms. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Huh, funny that MWM and I essentially rank it the same (6/10 or 3/5), even though he said he didn't get it, and I said I enjoyed it. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

*chuckle* - Michael W. May

Thought Napoleon was meh. 6/10 is about right. Haven't seen Modern Times, though. How about...Modern Times vs., oh, Duck Soup? - Jeremy Thompson

Jeremy, still Modern Times. :) I like the Marx Brothers, but they ain't Chaplin. And I like A Night at the Opera better than Duck Soup anyway. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Modern Times for sure. Napoleon Dynamite is a fun movie, but it has very little replay value and hasn't aged well for me. Modern Times is STILL fun and enjoyable. - Jon, the Beartato of '10

Jonathan, exactly. Even after 73 years, Modern Times is still amazing. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

no doubt, chaplin is way ahead...;) - diego morelli

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It Happened One Night vs. A Star is Born - http://www.flickchart.com/A67A0AE...

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Big Judy fan and I've not seen half her films including this... I'd probably still choose the other. - Michael W. May

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Never seen It Happened One Night...but great poster for that one. - Jeremy Thompson

I've got It Happened One Night at #9, which is really too high. But do I want A Star is Born in #9? I'm overthinking this again. MWM, you NEED to see it - for "The Man That Got Away" alone. Judy's first film after four years of rehab struggles, and all that pain and yet hope is right there. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I need to see alot of films *sigh* Will add it to the "must see it" list - Michael W. May

It happened on night is a great movie :D - martha

Jeremy Thompson

Forever Strong - http://www.netflix.com/Movie...

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Umm, just in case anyone sees this, my wife added this to our queue. I disavow all knowledge and/or endorsement of said movie. - Jeremy Thompson

Flickchart to Flickchart's feed, Flickchart

[NEW FEATURE] Matchup Statistics! You can now see all kinds of stats on the movies in each matchup - right on the homepage. See your current rankings for each film, and where they're at on the global charts, how many times you've ranked the movies, how often they've won, who's seen it, and who has it in their Top 20 - all without leaving the page!

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Ooh, this one is awesome. But I'm a stats whore. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

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Jandy, it will be interesting to see if people adjust their choices based on being able to see the stats ahead of time... I think some will. - Nathan Chase

I've been noticing that already. It's really hard not to let it affect my decision. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

That element was the source of argument when we launched the site originally. My wife, for instance, was dead-set against having those stats there because of the sway factor. - Jeremy Thompson

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Raiders of the Lost Ark vs. Citizen Kane - http://www.flickchart.com/F8FD895...

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Wow. Gotta go with Raiders for favorite, though. Citizen Kane's amazing, but I find it difficult to like. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I went with Raiders. Kane is already in my top 10, but Raiders deserves to be up there too. - Shawna Benson

Raiders! I agree with Jandy on Kane -- it's a cinematic spectacle, but I don't think I'd ever think of it warmly or like it's personally "mine." - Jeremy Thompson

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Trainspotting vs. Being John Malkovich - http://www.flickchart.com/E351A89...

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I haven't seen either one. I just run a movie site. - Jeremy Thompson

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Malkovich! - Michael W. May

Trainspotting for me. I liked Malkovich but trainspotting is just awesome. - Joey

Gotta be Malkovich, one my favourite movies. - Chris Lawrence

Tough choice. But I'll probably go with Being John Malkovich as well. - Parth Awasthi

I love pretty much any movie with a shit flinging scene but that's just me. - Joey

I heard Malkovich is pretentious. But the source was sketchy. - Jeremy Thompson

Jeremy, we should have a trainspotting night. We'll get really drunk and eat chocolate pudding. - Joey

Pretentious? A deliberate part of its charm. I've never finished watching Trainspotting; never gave it a real chance though. - Michael W. May

Malkovich. Trainspotting was boring. - Admiral Anika from fftogo

Jeremy, you also haven't seen The Godfather. Or Silence of the Lambs. Or Kill Bill Vol. 1. Or Toy Story. Or L.A. Confidential. Or Taxi Driver. Okay, I'll stop now. :p EDIT: Or GoodFellas! Okay, I'm done, really. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Wow, such unlike for Trainspotting! I loved it, personally. Pretty much love all of Danny Boyle's movies. But I also pretty much love all of Spike Jonze's and Charlie Kaufman's movies, too.... GAH. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Trainspotting definitely. - Nikhil Dandekar

Jandy, come onnnn, where are you getting that bogus info? What kind of loser hasn't seen *The Godfather*, seriously?? I know, right? - Jeremy Thompson

Yeah Jandy, Jeremy is really behind as far as good movies go. I once had this grand dream where we would all get together one night and watch Godfather, Godfather II and Goodfellas while eating Italian food. But alas that dream has been shattered by something called flickchart... - Joey

According to Flickchart, Trainspotting wins. Globally 94 vs. 111 for Being John Malkovich. Trainspotting wins its matchup 54% of the time, as opposed to Malkovich's 47%. Currently for me, Trainspotting is 50 (winning 75% of the time), and Malkovich is 145 (winning 36% of the time). I LOVE STATS. I'm surprised Malkovich only wins that often, though - I like it a lot. But the numbers don't like. I will leave Trainspotting above Malkovich, for that is where it wants to be. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Joey, lol! And I haven't seen The Godfather II, so I can't mock TOO harshly. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Oh my Godfather! You must watch it tomorrow evening while eating spaghetti! Some consider II to be better than the original. So much character backstory. They are equal in my wiseguy eyes. - Joey

I actually have the set of all three, so I think I win over both of you. I can't believe you haven't seen part II, Jandy. Even *I* know how great it looks there on the shelf. Plus it's still in its shrinkwrap, maintaining its value more than you could ever imagine. - Jeremy Thompson

Being John Malkovich. - anna sauce

I'm not a huge fan of The Godfather, which is why I've put off seeing Pt 2, even though everyone says it's better. I've actually got the Blu-ray of Godfather from Netflix right now - maybe a hi-def rewatch will enlighten me, and then I can move on to Pt 2 and remove this horrible oversight from my unwatched list. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Malky. - Derrick

Whatever, Jeremy. :p - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Actually, if it weren't for Nathan and (this other total tool) Ryan, I would've seen Godfather by now. But we have a blood pact to see it together, and the problem is that none of us want to watch it in the first place, so we haven't even gotten to the blood part of the pact yet. :( - Jeremy Thompson

You've got good films you'll know you will enjoy in that same queue. Why subject yourself to a too long film about characters you already know you don't really care that much about? - Michael W. May

Good thing you guys added matchup commenting to the site ;) - Joey

MWM, so people stop teasing you mercilessly on social networks? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Joey, if we were on Flickchart right now I'd dignify that comment with a real response. - Jeremy Thompson

Johnny Worthington to Johnny's feed, FFundercats Podcast

FFundercats: Episode 34 Chat Room ............................................................................................. Listen Here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel...

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Hai hai! - Simon Wicks

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Coming soon folks. Waiting for Josh (stuck in traffic) - Johnny Worthington

What. - Akiva Moskovitz

Par-tay. - Michael McKean

How is everyone? - Johnny Worthington

I saw this and was like, what? josh isn't even home yet. - Trish Haley

Trish... have the Diet Coke standing by :p - Johnny Worthington

will do johnny. since... dinner is leftovers. - Trish Haley

Hello :) - Molly, New Ears :P

Hi, gang! - LB - all new for '10!

Molly, Laura, Michael, Akiva, Simon... Hello - Johnny Worthington

Is Josh home yet? I saw that picture. Not a happy picture. :( - Molly, New Ears :P

No - Johnny Worthington

Johnny, hello there :) - Molly, New Ears :P

But soon - Johnny Worthington

Simon! You stayed up, good chap. And hello to all others too. - Janet

(I hope) - Johnny Worthington

yo! er, I mean, ho! - Jim in Real Time

hello everybody! - Nathan Chase

Hi Janet - Johnny Worthington

we're excited to be here! - Flickchart

Awesome - Johnny Worthington

Hello - Mo Kargas

Mo!!! - Johnny Worthington

Hi Mo, how is the foot today? - Janet

Hey all! - Jeremy Thompson

Hi and Howdy, all. - CAJ, somewhere else

Yeah i stayed up, headphones in sat in the dark, Charleys asleep :) - Simon Wicks

Much better, thanks Janet - Mo Kargas

Hi Janet! - Trish Haley

Jeremy, Curtis Hi - Johnny Worthington

Hi Trish! - Janet

cheers, Simon. Thanks for burning the midnight oil. - Jim in Real Time

O HAI - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Cherry Coke Zero - at the ready. :) - Nathan Chase

WOOT - veo

Still BBQing, but will be done soon - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

just started raining here. boo! - veo

Hallo. - Helen Sventitsky

Hey! - Nicholas James

Veo, more rain? :( - joey

Just messing around Facebook. - Molly, New Ears :P

Isnt it saturday morning in Australia? - veo

Joey, yep.. :( - veo

not raining here because I came home from the beach today... that made it stop. - Jim in Real Time

I'M HERE - Josh Haley

man, have we got some stuff to show you guys... - Nathan Chase

Let's get this show on the road! - veo

It's raining and I'm dying of spider/mosquito bites. How does a girl catch a break around here? - joey

Yeah to Josh! - Janet

YEAH JOSH IS HERE :P - Molly, New Ears :P

hell josh! - Simon Wicks

hello even.. - Simon Wicks

i hearz dem - Jim in Real Time

VOLUME ON - veo

Yay! - CAJ, somewhere else

i hear! - Simon Wicks

BEG FOR FORGIVENESS! - Mo Kargas

Echo Beach, far away in time :P - Molly, New Ears :P

haha - Simon Wicks

Woah trippy - Mo Kargas

errr... - CAJ, somewhere else

OOmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - veo

... - mjc

Oh. I thought that humming was some kind of weird feedback here. - Rochelle

sounds like yoga ffundercats - Janet

huh... - Michael McKean

Binaural beat - CAJ, somewhere else

start again - Molly, New Ears :P

COME BACK! - Michael McKean

:( - joey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - CAJ, somewhere else

FFunderfail :( - Mo Kargas

mantra'd themselves right off air - Janet

They must've transcended their physical bodies. - veo

My voice is my passport. - CAJ, somewhere else

ommmmmmmmm-ff line - mjc

maybe it was swearing in mantra speak - Janet

y'all - CAJ, somewhere else

hoooooo - Simon Wicks

LOL MJC! - Janet

ho! - Jim in Real Time

First show I've caught in weeks! - ha3rvey (wants confit)

Hahaha. Trucks. How Texas! - Rochelle

Madness! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

ಠ_ಠ - Mo Kargas

I don't think there was an Iran election as much as there was an unpopularity contest. - Akiva Moskovitz

Anyone seen my desktop? - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Akiva, if it was really an unpopularity contest I would have won. - joey

ঢ_ঢ - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

not true Joey - Jim in Real Time

Joey, you're super popular, at least to us... - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Someone's going fishing! - Akiva Moskovitz

and I got hooked - Jim in Real Time

I'm only popular on FF :) - joey

Bring me back some bass... - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

What else matters? :P - CAJ, somewhere else

Probably not so much to the Iranian electorate! - joey

This tool has been great for 1st-hand accounts. Translate to/ from Farsi. http://translate.google.com/transla... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

YES. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

So who decided to make their avatars green? - Nathan Chase

I decided to just use another one... Too lazy to tint. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I know Ashton was helping out the protest. - Molly, New Ears :P

There was a few people asking if the Tweets were real from the protesters. - Molly, New Ears :P

keep waiting for the hashtags to switch over from #iranrelection to #iranrevolution so I can get a screenshot. Maybe I'll just wait for it to switch to #iranapathy - BryanSchuetz

People need to remember that Facebook has more Iran talk then Twitter just the mainstream press picked up Twitter ;) - Nicholas James

I also heard Facebook come up too. - Molly, New Ears :P

Howdy. - Steven Perez

howdy steven - Jim in Real Time

Hi Steven :) - joey

What is Johnny's point here? - Akiva Moskovitz

Good Evening Steven Perez! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Steven!! - Janet

HAI, Steven! - LB - all new for '10!

Hey Steven :) - Molly, New Ears :P

can't hear what's going on ... still messing around with the computer. :-( - Steven Perez from IM

Hey Steven and Laura - Nicholas James

Steven: They're discussing Iran. - Nicholas James

they're talking about tweeting from Iran - Jim in Real Time

Hi, Nicholas. - LB - all new for '10!

Ah. - Steven Perez from IM

I'm looking at an animated cat gif. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Specifically Twitter and the mainstream press coverage - although we know Facebook has more coverage of it ;) - Nicholas James

That's not just true of the Iranian situation - Mo Kargas

Farsi - veo

Farsi - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

A lot was Farcie (sp) - Molly, New Ears :P

http://friendfeed.com/infinit... - Josh Haley

Or Farsi even :P - Molly, New Ears :P

I'm working on a translation (using google api) friendfeed script. No promies, but it's in the works. - Micah Wittman

coherence is overrated - Jim in Real Time

Micah: nice! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

اسم من شان است - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Source of the data to prove Facebook is getting more Iran talk then Twitter: http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009... ;) - Nicholas James

You're always working on something new eh Micah :) - Simon Wicks

:) - Micah Wittman

Micah: That would be pretty useful :) - Nicholas James

Well, unless we're on the ground ourselves, we can only get a reflection of it. I think the IMMEDIACY of twitter is really what's astounding here, even if it's not wholly representative. - veo

Green for the party - Molly, New Ears :P

You gotta pick and choose your causes. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I don't think they should, and assume a cloak of neutrality. - Mo Kargas

Yeah, they do need to pick and choose. - Molly, New Ears :P

I'm staying out of this one - Molly, New Ears :P

I've kept neutral on the whole situation at the moment. Although I saw a lot of Twitter users having Green Avatars - Nicholas James

Oh great if FF put an elephant in the logo all hell would break loose - Molly, New Ears :P

brb - Molly, New Ears :P

Agreed. Social Platforms should remain neutral, let the users choose sides, if they want. - veo

I don't think FF as a service should 'pick sides' but individuals should be/can - Mo Kargas

Exactly, Josh (SEE http://friendfeed.com/friendf... ) - Micah Wittman

¬_¬ - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

http://friendfeed.com/simonwi... - Josh Haley

if you wore pants, Johnny you wouldn't get so many splinters - Jim in Real Time

Woo, It's me :) - Simon Wicks

Simon! - Jim in Real Time

London :) - Simon Wicks

It's awesome. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Yay Simon! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

its 2.35am ;) - Nicholas James

it is awesome! - Jim in Real Time

Whoa, good one, Simon. :) - Molly, New Ears :P

Love it. Super creative. - joey

It started on Flickr, I think. - Akiva Moskovitz

almost perfect.. Sean got it a bit better.. - Simon Wicks

FF art - Mo Kargas

it is pretty sweet. - Nathan Chase

JOHNNY! NOOOOOOOOOO! :O - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

yeah, this has been on flickr for awhile - veo

You're the pioneer, I just loved the style :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

FFunderFAIL ;) - Nicholas James

*clap* - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

*claps* - Jim in Real Time

*bows* - Simon Wicks

I can't get this thread to update with new posts. Hitting F5 over and over is getting tiring. :/ - Rochelle

*bows* - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

ouch that sucks, Rochelle - Jim in Real Time

Haggis: post ur link - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Rochelle: click on the timestamp and see it in real time ;) - Nicholas James

http://friendfeed.com/haggis... - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

WIN! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Very cool. - joey

You used it for EVIL though. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Nicholas, that's where I am. It's not updating at all. - Rochelle

haha - Simon Wicks

Speaking of Zooey, I just finished watching The Go Getter - Jim in Real Time

Nice, Haggis! - Micah Wittman

http://friendfeed.com/joshhal... - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

aghhh!!!! - Jim in Real Time

The asian nipple lickers - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

:( - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

don't! - Jim in Real Time

Dude. - Akiva Moskovitz

That's the only way. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

It was awesome. - Akiva Moskovitz

LINK IT - Akiva Moskovitz

boys on the beach! - veo

Yum! - Michael McKean

LINNNNNNNNNNNK IT - Akiva Moskovitz

Ben is listening to this and he totally laughed at that. - joey

DO NOT LINK! - Jim in Real Time

Oh. Sean linked it. - Akiva Moskovitz

http://ff.im/4chpx - Simon Wicks

IT WAS FKN EPIC - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

veo, boys say go! - Akiva Moskovitz

http://friendfeed.com/ronin... - Johnny Worthington

What has been seen cannot be unseen. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

:( http://friendfeed.com/joshhal... - Josh Haley

But also :) - Akiva Moskovitz

No, just :( - joey

OOO I remember the Ford Fiesta review, I remember seeing that a while ago on Top Gear. I can't wait until 21st June when it returns :) - Nicholas James

Moar liek :D amirite? - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

i love top gear. the OZ one just doesnt really do it for me though - Simon Wicks

DO NOT TAUNT HAPPY FFUNDERCATS - Akiva Moskovitz

Woah. There's a new iPhone? - Akiva Moskovitz

http://friendfeed.com/joshhal... - Johnny Worthington

WTF. Why does no one tell me these things. - Akiva Moskovitz

@Johnny where have you had it NOT work? - mjc

Akiva: It was all over friendfeed about the 3GS - Nicholas James

Wow. How did I miss that? - Akiva Moskovitz

Josh, don't fall for it. This is like handing a magician a $20 bill. - Akiva Moskovitz

You probably wasn't on FriendFeed at the time ;) - Nicholas James

hmm .weird. works for me - mjc

Let's listen to Josh's phone brick LIVE! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

That happens to me a lot! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

That's because the iPhone goes in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere. - Akiva Moskovitz

Haggis: LOL - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

On my G1 Android, and happened in Chrome yesterday until I moved down from the beta to stable build. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

what are we talking about? - Jim in Real Time

You hit comments or like and it pushes to the top of the page. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

twss - Jim in Real Time

Feedburnerfriendfeedgate! - Nathan Chase

Well, restarted my iPhone and didn't have any trubs with expanding comments. - CAJ, somewhere else

100 fold for my blog - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

A new way to inflate those RSS readership numbers ;) - Nicholas James

http://friendfeed.com/jworthi... - Johnny Worthington

WTFs a 'trub'. - Akiva Moskovitz

Same here: http://friendfeed.com/haggis... - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Is that some kind of Star Trek reference? - Akiva Moskovitz

no that's a trib - Nathan Chase

a baby tribble - Nathan Chase

Mudd's Trubbs? - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

lol@Akiva - no it is just pleural for tribble - Janet

Mudd's got trubbs with tribbs - Nathan Chase

Welchy, Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! - veo

*faceplam* - CAJ, somewhere else

Subs + likes + comments - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

OMG WTF IS A PLEURAL - Akiva Moskovitz

The numbers are worthless anyway imo. - Nicholas James

a lung-y tribble of course - Janet

a pleural is a word that cries - Jim in Real Time

It means you get to take johnny to the prom!! - veo

OMG I remembered to come listen this time!!! WOOT!!! - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Hi Lindsay! - joey

http://friendfeed.com/iphone... - Josh Haley

I was embarassed to publish my rss followers (28)--now it's 2650--probably still won't advertise that - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

yo yo Lindsay - Nathan Chase

WHO?! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

oh hai, lindsay! - CAJ, somewhere else

ROLLAH COASTAH! Of loooove.... - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

dang, I completely missed that post! - Jim in Real Time

rocking the C64! - Nathan Chase

I had a lot of interesting things happen to me at that time. - Molly, New Ears :P

14 sucked mostly for me. - Lindsay is in 20-ten

it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. - veo

My best year in high school - Josh Haley

That post was really an eye opener as 14 is a really impressionable time in the formation of personality. - Janet

I had my first high school crush at 14. - Molly, New Ears :P

I had my first high school crush when I was 4. - Akiva Moskovitz

Don't ask. - Akiva Moskovitz

oh deary me. - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

Mine wasn't until I was 6. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

We won't. ;p - joey

I had my first real gf at 11, and hooked up with her again when I was 15. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Uh... - Michael McKean

YAY NEW SUBSCRIBER EMAIL. - joey

wtf are you talking about - Jim in Real Time

Isn't it fancy, joey?! - Penguin It's Cold Outside

those new shiny subs emails are very slick - Nathan Chase

Me likey. - CAJ, somewhere else

I haven't had a new subscriber this week - Jim in Real Time

Totally fancy, Penguin. - joey

The new subscriber msg. rocks! - LB - all new for '10!

New sub email: VERY nice. - Micah Wittman

Quick, someone subscribe to Jim. - joey

first time listening, cool - Jacob

Height and Weight? No. Shit. - Christopher Harley

heh - Jim in Real Time

Can I just say, dial-up? Not as awful as I remembered it - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Noo nooo.. do not want - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

That sounds like an invite Jim :) - Bill Heslin

dial up? - Jim in Real Time

Be my friend. - Christopher Harley

O hai Penguin! That's dedication, dial up is horrendous. :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

I'm in the woods, no shiny wireless access for me! - Penguin It's Cold Outside

wow - Jim in Real Time

Hi Jacob :) - joey

I'm not actually listening yet, though, LOL. Just chatting. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

There is Subscribe Sunday on FriendFeed guys ;) - Nicholas James

are you away from home? - Jim in Real Time

It's only until Sunday, though. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Yeah, mini-vacation. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

FriendFeed is like grandma's secret recipe - Christopher Harley

cool - Jim in Real Time

:) - Jacob

I'm following the chat on my G1. - Steven Perez from IM

Most active groups - yes, that's a good one. - Micah Wittman

that's cool, Steven - Lindsay is in 20-ten

How classy of you, Steven. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs... subscribe sunday link ;) - Nicholas James

I never, ever do it. If you have a private feed, I just ignore it. - Akiva Moskovitz

But, I'm also a fussy little bitch. - Akiva Moskovitz

THIS USER IS PARANOID. - Christopher Harley

I do my best, Sally Sparrow. :-) - Steven Perez from IM

And by 'little', I mean fat. - Akiva Moskovitz

LOL - Christopher Harley

So someone tell me what's going on, please. - Steven Perez from IM

NO! - Christopher Harley

I'll have to guy pick out your postcard in the morning, Doctor! :) - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Who wouldn't be subscribed to you, Johnny??? - Lindsay is in 20-ten

I like the fact that since the new e-mail format has come out, I've had zero subscriptions. - Akiva Moskovitz

Steven, they're talking about being subbed by someone with a private feed - Jim in Real Time

WOO HOO! :-) - Steven Perez from IM

He's talking about Leather Donut. - Christopher Harley

ZERO. - Akiva Moskovitz

Oops, I still have a private feed. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

That's because everyone is already subscribed to you, Akiva. - Steven Perez from IM

That's okay, Penguin: I'm already subscribed to you! - Akiva Moskovitz

I could unsub and resub to you Akiva. - Jim in Real Time

Yay! - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Beets. - Christopher Harley

You could be checking for Cilantro - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

It's still delicious - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

I don't remember why it's private, actually. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Hey, asparagus cooked right is awesome. - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Welp, that's the moment of win: You eat corn and corn comes out. - Akiva Moskovitz

Oh Josh.. oh, Josh.. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

I don't want to know about Johnny's poo. :( - Rochelle

YOU EAT CORN AND CORN COMES OUT - Akiva Moskovitz

hahaha - Simon Wicks

MoW. "Eat corn and corn comes out!" - Christopher Harley

:/ - Nicholas James

BACK TO TOILETS?! - Rochelle

HEY HANDS OFF DOWNUNDER! - Mo Kargas

I agree with Akiva.. that's it - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

it comes out backwards - Jim in Real Time

good asparagus: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Uh.. what?? - Michael McKean

Is that the MoW, crap Kernals :P - Molly, New Ears :P

jlhdhafa ntus;mcdtk - joey

YOU EAT CORN AND CORN COMES OUT - Christopher Harley

Like a ramen packet? - Akiva Moskovitz

Aww, we went nearly an hour before the toilet humor - Janet

My private feed is delicious, Sean? (A lot is lost when you can't listen to the actual broadcast...) - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Corn goes in. Corn goes out. - ha3rvey (wants confit)

ewwwwwwwwwww ... - Steven Perez from IM

I HAVE MADE IT SO - Akiva Moskovitz

ON it - Christopher Harley

AHOY - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Akiva said - Christopher Harley

NATHAN CHASE. I LOVE/HATE YOU. - Akiva Moskovitz

i bet you do - Nathan Chase

Hi! - Rochelle

HELLO. - Akiva Moskovitz

Yay Nathan - Mo Kargas

no face-licking, Akiva. - Steven Perez from IM

I'm Chris. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

hello Flickcharters! - Jim in Real Time

I don't lick faces. - Akiva Moskovitz

Oh, hi, Nathan and Jeremy! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

hello...Hello...HELLO.....HELLO! - CAJ, somewhere else

How dare you, sir. - Akiva Moskovitz

"Do you love or hate Cilantro" http://friendfeed.com/coturni... - Micah Wittman

... twice. - Steven Perez from IM

SILENCE OF THE LAMBS vs. BMX BANDITS - Akiva Moskovitz

hello! - Flickchart

Hi, I'm Candy. Call me. 976-555-1212 - Christopher Harley

I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT FFUNDERCATS. Thankfully I got here in time for Flickchart. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Hey Nathan and Jeremy :) - Molly, New Ears :P

Tough. Choice. - Akiva Moskovitz

Flickchart vs Flickchart II - Micah Wittman

Flickchart FTW ;) - Nicholas James

Hai jandy - Mo Kargas

Please remove Goonies from my life. - Christopher Harley

WRONG. - Akiva Moskovitz

Jandy! - Jim in Real Time

SO WRONG. - Akiva Moskovitz

Hey Jandy, I remembered tonight too!!! Yay for us! - Lindsay is in 20-ten

I need to find where my confirmation e-mail went to, because I didn't get it. - Molly, New Ears :P

I'm Akiva! - Akiva Moskovitz

So you were defending the Empire. I see. - Micah Wittman

Yay us, Lindsay! Whee! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Oh, hey. Johnny. - Akiva Moskovitz

You joined Flickchart before it existed, yeah? - Akiva Moskovitz

Hrm..all my subscription emails from FF go to /dev/null - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

I think I started on Flickchart in June 2008. Does that make me an early adopter? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Johnny Worthington joined Flickchart back when the Internet was called ARPAnet. - Akiva Moskovitz

No way. But you're still one of our favorites. - Jeremy Thompson

ROFL at Akiva - Jim in Real Time

Johnny Worthington used to use an analog coupler to dial in 8-N-1 300 baud to rate movies that didn't exist yet. - Akiva Moskovitz

I joined Flickchart as part of the WPA. - Christopher Harley

Mmm acoustic coupler - Mo Kargas

Johnny Worthington kills kittens and looks at their entrails to decide which movie to choose on Flickchart. - Akiva Moskovitz

When I joined Flickchart, all the text was in cunieform. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I got a Flickchart membership when I opened a box of Cracker Jacks in 1985. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

haha - Nathan Chase

Johnny Worthington joined Flickchart before Halley's Comet first visited the Earth. - Akiva Moskovitz

Barry Lyndon vs Akiva - Christopher Harley

CHRISTOPHER HOW DARE YOU - Akiva Moskovitz

I think the doctor signed me up for Flickchart right after he ripped me from my mother's womb, but before spanking my ass. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

:) - Christopher Harley

Penguin, LOL. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Hrm...I had got an invite to Flickchart when I was just a wee lad. It came in the box with Omega Supreme...that was the best xmas ever - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Johnny Worthington joined Flickchart when Australia was still a dumping ground for English rejects. - Akiva Moskovitz

OOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH I WENT THERE. - Akiva Moskovitz

My grandfather was one of the original 3 that saw the concept design for Flickchart - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

:( - Akiva Moskovitz

Does it consider how long it takes me to choose which movie? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Welp, unsubscribing from Jeremy. - Akiva Moskovitz

I have to use Flickchart for my Dia-BEETUS - Christopher Harley

:O - Penguin It's Cold Outside

LMFAO@Chris - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Flickchart 3.0 ? - Nicholas James

Johnny ranks "Akiva The Movie" above all Kubrick films. DEAL. - Micah Wittman

My grandfather, a mafioso who came to America in the early 30s, left my father a flickchart membership which he then handed down to me. - Jim in Real Time

Are there many people using Flickchart who AREN'T FriendFeeders? - Rochelle

JIM! - Christopher Harley

And then half the people loved you and the other half HATED you. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Damn, what did I miss? - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Rochelle, actually, yeah, mostly due to Louis Gray and Lifehacker. - Jeremy Thompson

what happened Penguin? - Jim in Real Time

I think FF users are probably the most active, tho. - Jeremy Thompson

Rochelle, there are over 6500 users - Flickchart

And that worked out well for lots of people, because there were other API-based services that people wanted to hide, so thanks for prodding them to do that. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Rochelle: Thats an interesting question although, Louis Gray blogged about it and he has readership outside FriendFeed ;) - Nicholas James

I don't know what happened, I'm just waiting to get audio :( - Penguin It's Cold Outside

I think I have a date with Flickchart tonight. - joey

Yes, ask. - Micah Wittman

The link is to that rating - Nicholas James

doesn't netflix offer like a million dollar prize if you can improve their recommendation engine? - BryanSchuetz

they're talking about flickchart now with Nathan and Jeremy - Jim in Real Time

Flickchart and I are going to to have a long night tonight :P - Molly, New Ears :P

Bryan: They'd rather sell to IMDB for more ;) - Nicholas James

Music next, music next! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

MusicChart - Molly, New Ears :P

Games? Music? Software? - Nicholas James

The Beatles vs. The Who - Molly, New Ears :P

The Beatles. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Asphalt recipes? - Micah Wittman

Yay, I hear people talking! It cuts out a lot, but it's not silence. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

Beatles, def - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Beatles vs Stones - Josh Haley

Nicholas: ahh. Here's the prize page for netflix anyways: http://www.netflixprize.com/ - BryanSchuetz

Beatles. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Whatever you say, Beatles. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Yup, Jandy :) - Josh Haley

Kramer vs Kramer domain? - Micah Wittman

Kramer, hands down. - Christopher Harley

I saw Amazon referrals on there ;) - Nicholas James

lol - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

knew it! - Micah Wittman

Beatles. - Jim in Real Time

June Bugs! - Micah Wittman

CHRISTOPHER! - Jim in Real Time

M. Jackson Vs. Justin Timberlake - Nicholas James

JIM! - Christopher Harley

I'm confused about something, where do you register for Flickchart? - Molly, New Ears :P

Garfield vs Garfield vs Garfield the Movie? - Micah Wittman

It's semi-private beta. Let me find the link, Molly, unless someone else beats me. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Molly...you mean you're not a member? :o - Nicholas James

Very cool! - joey

@Molly you can just put your email address in the box on the front page, the invite is automatic - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Molly: "Interested in joining the beta? Enter your email address below!" - Christopher Harley

Garfield vs Garfield Minus Garfield vs Garfield the Movie? <------ correct-a-mundo - Micah Wittman

Like call us all out on FriendFeed for the famous movies we haven't seen? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Molly: I'll get you an automatic signup link ;) - Nicholas James

http://tinyurl.com/flickch... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I did enter my e-mail - Molly, New Ears :P

You can go straight to the link I just posted to sign up. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Molly: http://www.flickchart.com/Splash... - Nicholas James

Killer Apps vs Killer Bees vs Killer breakdancing moves - Micah Wittman

Thanks Nicholas :) - Molly, New Ears :P

That's called reloading the page. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Rocky 2 vs Rocky 5 - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Please remove Groundhog Day from my list. - Christopher Harley

Christopher: you can do that yourself ;) - Nicholas James

Christopher: click on groundhog day and "remove from ranking" ;) - Nicholas James

Can I never have to judge it ever again? - Christopher Harley

You can remove it from Flickchart, but I got you babe will still play on your clock radio every morning, Mr Harley. - Micah Wittman

Not a bug. - Christopher Harley

a feature! - Micah Wittman

Okay, I'm a member, thanks again Nicholas. :) - Molly, New Ears :P

hah my first choice pair includes Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Could there be anything worse? - BryanSchuetz

No problems Molly :) You can follow me on flickchart: http://www.flickchart.com/profitb... ;) - Nicholas James

Xanadu vs. Rocky Horror Picture Show - Molly, New Ears :P

My trend is BAD movies (hence Xanadu) - Molly, New Ears :P

have a good evening guys, I'm fading. Not gonna make it to MOW. - Jim in Real Time

g/nite Jim - Janet

Night Jim - Molly, New Ears :P

Uh....I do, Josh. Every movie I've seen is in a spreadsheet. And on my website. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

here's my profile: http://www.flickchart.com/Zampa - Nathan Chase

Sleep well, Jim - Bruce Lewis

Film school - Josh Haley

Night Jim - Nicholas James

I'd like to be able to see which films are on Netflix's Watch Instantly. Can that happen? - Christopher Harley

I want to rank just Jean-Luc Godard movies. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

OH WAIT. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy, you are awesome. - joey

:) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Ranking Tim Curry movies :P - Molly, New Ears :P

interesting idea using friendfeed chat during a podcast, might have to attempt that. - Gabe Taviano

Are you listening, Gabe? Go here to listen in: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Christopher Harley

yeah, I'm listening, thanks! - Gabe Taviano

My Mom would love Flickchart, she's a movieholic :P - Molly, New Ears :P

That's why you keep lists! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

My Mom writes down all the movies she's seen and ranks them from 1-10. She has lists all over the place of movies she's seen. - Molly, New Ears :P

Hehe. They're tired of me harping on them. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Oh the Jonas Bros movie needs to be added :P - Molly, New Ears :P

WHAT? - CAJ, somewhere else

WAAAAAAAT - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

SACRILEGE! - Lindsay is in 20-ten

I haven't seen it either - Mo Kargas

Josh hasn't seen Star Trek!!!!! OMG!!! - Molly, New Ears :P

THE WIZARD OF OZ ISN'T ON THERE? Okay, that takes priority over Godard, even for me. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Pfffft. - CAJ, somewhere else

Mona's in Seattle now. No more New York. - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Go see it - Molly, New Ears :P

OOH - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

HELLO. - Akiva Moskovitz

Can Flickchart servers handle the ffundercats bump? - Bruce Lewis

MOW - "YOU EAT CORN AND CORN COMES OUT" - Christopher Harley

Why does Harley get the credit. - Akiva Moskovitz

[sobbing] - Akiva Moskovitz

yes - CAJ, somewhere else

YES OF COURSE. - Akiva Moskovitz

It's Akiva's but I steal when I can. - Christopher Harley

SHUT UP JOSH. - Akiva Moskovitz

THANK YOU. - Akiva Moskovitz

Bruce, I think we'll be good... - Flickchart

no punctuation - CAJ, somewhere else

ready - CAJ, somewhere else

im ready - Simon Wicks

stop sucking computer - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

IM NOT - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Ready? - Mo Kargas

She's sewing little purses, I think. - Rochelle

Don't dis Trish's craftiness!! - Lindsay is in 20-ten

I expect duplicates too. - CAJ, somewhere else

same - Simon Wicks

WHAT???? - CAJ, somewhere else

slow computer is slow - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

How many movies total are in your database? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I bet I know what some of the duplicates will be. - joey

YES, AND HIS BAND IS AWESOME. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

STOP FAILING COMPUTER - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Look me up when you tour in LA. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Mine will be duplicated. I'm sure of it. :P - CAJ, somewhere else

http://www.myspace.com/thepaus... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

same here - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

ready, finally - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I'm keeping mine PG (and therefore probably less interesting). Haha. - joey

I accidentally had safe surf off. Bad idea. - CAJ, somewhere else

Okay I'm ready, Freddie - Molly, New Ears :P

like the flashing....:) - WorldofHiglet

Thank you joey! (Mine's rated G) - Bruce Lewis

Er, mine is G, too ;) I forgot my ratings. - joey

Mine is picture of Morgan Freeman playing the tuba but I'm sure it'll be duplicated. - Christopher Harley

ready - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

But who will pick GOATSE!?!? - Christopher Harley

lol - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

And I just posted the MySpace link, too. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy - It's about 10K, but some have crapped up data, so they're not all live. Not sure how many are actually live, but I'll check. - Jeremy Thompson

Crustleader standing by. - Akiva Moskovitz

Oh lord, I can't keep up... - Helen Sventitsky

pajamas man standing by - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Lil' Tripod standing by - Christopher Harley

Jeremy, thanks. :) Was wondering how my number of ranked movies matched up against the total number. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Joeybean standing by... - joey

321 GO! - Mo Kargas

HAGGIS FTW - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

ಠ_ಠ - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

HEE!! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

twss - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Good one :P - Molly, New Ears :P

<sigh> - CAJ, somewhere else

Hahaha. - joey

*shakes head* - Molly, New Ears :P

Cornicopia of... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

oh my - Rodfather

We're the Children of the Corn - Molly, New Ears :P

canola is soy. Rapeseeed actually - Christopher Harley

*crickets* - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

husky... - WorldofHiglet

mine was poopy! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

fun times - Amber, Random Time Lord

And I'll be on Flickchart all night :P - Molly, New Ears :P

2 ff's for awesome - WorldofHiglet

Night all :) - Molly, New Ears :P

We're just two listeners, but we do a lot of sock puppets. - Bruce Lewis

MEOW - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

And don't forget to watch Johnny in action right here: http://ff.im/47hwZ - Christopher Harley

meow - CAJ, somewhere else

MEOW. - joey

That's "please deliver" btw - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

OUCH! - CAJ, somewhere else

List Fail - Micah Wittman

Soft kitty, warm kitty... - joey

Well, Jeremy's never subscribed to me. *shrug* :p - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

want a spade for that hole? - Simon Wicks

I want to spike my hair - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I go boom nao. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Later days, guys. Thanks! - Christopher Harley

<EOM> - Micah Wittman

Thanks Chris - Josh Haley

thanks for the shout outs, bed time now. - Simon Wicks

Because..........*hanging* - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

LOL, are you drunk Haley? - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Josh doesn't drink, so it's all sack. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

It's allo sack, Sean - Josh Haley

allo WTF? - Josh Haley

ALL - Josh Haley

Not helping your case, Johs. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I know. :( - Josh Haley

i missed out? - Caroline

OMG. My case, either, clearly. Wait, did I have a case? *Josh. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

HONEST, I DON'T DRINK - Josh Haley

Okay, back to Far Cry 2. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Looks like the audience is growing! - Charlie Anzman

Charlie - or... a couple dozen secret accounts ;) - Micah Wittman

Nuts, I missed it? - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

Yeah, but it'll be out Tuesday. :) But stay tuned on FF right now for Flickchart announcements - Josh Haley

Here are the new Flickchart features we teased during the podcast: - Nathan Chase

http://friendfeed.com/flickch... - Nathan Chase

Kol Tregaskes

Is nobody sharing from FlickChart any more is is my saved search busted? - http://friendfeed.com/search...

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Looks like nothing for a few days now. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

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I haven't seen a FlickChart post on FF in forever. - Heather

I think people were scared off by the folks complaining about seeing it too often in their feeds... It shouldn't be a problem now since those folks can hide Flickchart (and any other API-based services) now. Feel free to share your matchups as much as you like! :) - Nathan Chase

I'm pretty sure we ran through every possible matchup ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Hehe, you're probably right, Ken. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

There are probably 10 million possibilities of matchups - you DEFINITELY have not exhausted all combinations ;) - Nathan Chase

The saved searches are still hit-or-miss - which is unfortunate. Hopefully Ben Golub and the team are working on searching by API-services soon. - Nathan Chase

I posted this one earlier today: http://friendfeed.com/nathanc... - Nathan Chase

Nathan, OK, cool. - Kol Tregaskes

Have you got a good saved search, Nathan? - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, it sucks because it doesn't seem to return very exact results - I've tried http://friendfeed.com/search... and http://friendfeed.com/search.... - but neither are comprehensive... http://friendfeed.com/search.... - still waiting for http://friendfeed.com/search... - Nathan Chase

I haven't had the time to mess with FlickChart for the past week or so. Trust me, I'll rectify that soon enough. - Akiva Moskovitz

I never did get an invite to flickchart. - Beau Liening

@Akiva - we're working on some neat stuff for the site right now... :) we MAY even push it live tonight, we'll see - Nathan Chase

@Beau - try http://tinyurl.com/flickch... to skip the invite queue and register right away... :) - Nathan Chase

What Nathan means is....MAYBE I won't RUIN it all for us with another delay. :) - Jeremy Thompson

Woot! Thanks Nathan! =) - Beau Liening

Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Is there a way to filter out posts by the URLs they refer to? totally swamped with the flickchart posts, too many. Don't want to block each person's friendfeed posts (the only option) just filter out the ones with that link, for now.

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I don't think so Joelle. I don't think the Hiding feature is that advanced yet. - Martin Bryant

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When a particular sites goes to fad, it can be quite annoying in the feed - it'd be nice to be able to do a hide by keyword or pattern. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I feared as much. I think I got about 6 in a row just about then and it was ARRRGHHH i dont care if it is Aliens or Fight Club, get off my feed! Grumpy morning a bit :D - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I've just been playing around with saved searches and it looks like you can't even set up Saved Search to filter out all mentions of Flickchart... unless I'm doing it wrong. You could just hide each one individually as you see it. - Martin Bryant

It'll die out in the next 2 hours I am sure, people will have run out of films to compare. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Have you tried "-www.flickchart.com"? I just did and it appeared to work, but until the US wakes up I can't be sure :-) - Andy Bold

Three Colours Red vs Weekend At Bernie's! Downfall vs My Little Pony The Movie! :) - Martin Bryant

Joelle, it's not perfect, but my friendfeedFilterByService user script can filter out most of the Flickchart entries http://friendfeed.com/friendf... . In the Configuration section, set as follows: var withWordsToHideArr = ["Flickchart"]; var withWordsToHideActive = true; The service "Flickchart" hasn't been added to the defined... more... - Micah Wittman

++Micah. My original punt didn't work and I was just trying "-service:Flickchart", which also doesn't work in the search box. (I guess FF need to catch up if it isn't in the services API yet.) - Andy Bold

Yep :) - Micah Wittman

I'd want something that goes outside the service API - since a lot of things will come either via a generic RSS/atom feed, or hand posted to FF. Filtering by URL is it - is there a URLtoHide option? Because of course just a WordsToHide option will hide this thread, which discusses it. That's too broad - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Joelle, the URL is part of the title of the entry, so this will work for most service-derived posts: var withWordsToHideArr = ["www.flickchart.com"]; - and this entry I'm commenting on right here is not hidden because you simple used the word flickchart. You should be able to add custom rss feeds to the withWordsToHideArr array as you come across noisy feeds. - Micah Wittman

Nathan, the Flickchart lead, is trying to get 'flickchart' recognized as a service. Then you'll simply be able to hide all flickchart entries. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Join the Friendfeed Feedback petition to have this service added ;-) Helps us, helps Flickchart. Win/win :-) https://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Andy Bold

Just added this into my hide list untill it dies down a bit - Simon Wicks

@Joelle (and everyone else here): Sorry Flickchart gets in your way. :( Figured when we were planning the integration that it would be an affliction for some people due to the volume, but I also thought there was a way to filter it out. It's sounding positive about FF adding to the services API, so I'll go on record as hoping THAT works out rather than interest in FC dying out. :P - Jeremy Thompson

Joelle and others: I've communicated with Ben on the FF team about supporting Flickchart, and any other API service and he's expressed that it's something they're considering. Eventually using -service:flickchart will be the ideal way to solve the issue. - Nathan Chase

Don't get me wrong - I *love* Flickchart. It's just a little noisy on the Friendfeed side right now :-) - Andy Bold from email

I have an idea for a FriendFeed extension that would answer this: Negative Groups. http://ff.im/3kVRf - Nathaniel Thurston

Greasemonkey does it - sofarsoShawn

FYI, you can now hide API-based services. See: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Nathan Chase

Thanks :) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

FriendFeed Feedback: Andy Bakun

Please tell me where to send money to get rid of flickchart from everyone's feed. Flickchart entries are as close to zero content as you can get and still call it an entry.

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Totally understood (I'm w/ Flickchart, btw). I wouldn't want my feed polluted with stuff I don't care about, either. But in defense of the posts and their followers, I've seen no shortage of movie matchups with 10, 20, 50, near 100 comments. It's got more content than a posted link (all the content you need stays within FF), and they generate some pretty entertaining commentary. - Jeremy Thompson

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And Nathan's posted this elsewhere, but he's talked to FF about some options for making it easy to filter out Flickchart posts, and it sounds like they're mulling over the details. - Jeremy Thompson

Noted, we're always working on ways to improve the hide feature. Thanks for writing in! - Ross Miller

I feel that on average, the entries' content approaches zero, not all of them have a lot of comments. I guess what gets me is that it doesn't even seem to indicate what the person preferred, and the link takes me to a page that asks me to sign in, so I can't even see the original content on flickchart. - Andy Bakun

Andy - it only takes you to a sign in page currently while we're still in private beta - once we open up the site those links will take you straight to make that choice on Flickchart. We're also going to make it to where the FriendFeed post title can be customized so it won't always say "movie name vs. movie name". Hopefully this will allow for the sharing here on FriendFeed to be more personalized for each user. - Nathan Chase

FYI, you can now hide API-based services. See: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Nathan Chase

Dawn

How do you pronounce "crayon"? I say cray-on. Of course, it's cray-on. My young adult kids say something that almost sounds like "crowns"! This may sound silly, but I'm shocked. It's like, where the heck did you pick THAT up?

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Yeah, I pronounce it just like it's spelled...cray-yawn. - Alex Scoble

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Cran. The y and o are silent, unless you're from hickville. :) - Cristo

My kids also say it like crowns. I pronounce it like cray-on - Alan Simpson

Cray-on. Even as a child, I never pronounced it "crown" but I've heard kids doing that more and more these days. Shoot, kids watch enough TV, do they *not* see the Crayon commercials where the word is pronounced correctly? (oh that's right...TiVo...) - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

On a related note, what about playdough? - Davis Freeberg

Cran. - Rochelle

Cray-on. But I've heard some people say "crown". - Mike Reynolds

Interesting. That's so weird to me. I wonder where that pronunciation started. It's not southern, at least not from anywhere I lived growing up in the south. - Dawn

I say cray-on. Wife says cran. I make fun of wife. Wife says I am dumb idiot. I feel good knowing I'm right. - Jeremy Thompson

Cray-on for me. - Jeff P. Henderson

Craay'Onns Here's a link for you. One of my FF on Twitter: http://twitter.com/crayonsman/ - Kay Designer

So how do people who say "crown" say Crayola? Crala? - invariant - farewell FF

It so happens that somebody this week forwarded to me some drawings by "the master crayon artist": http://www.themastercrayonartist.com/shop... His work is good. I wonder how he pronounces it. I bet it's cray-on. - Dawn

cray-on - Elena

Cray-on. - Kol Tregaskes

cray-on - BEX

I say cray-on with equal emphasis, but where I grew up they were CRAY-uns. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

My Canadian friends say "cranes" - Sean Oliver

I say cray - on - Ian May

Jeremy Thompson

Brazil vs. Gattaca - http://www.flickchart.com/8887B51...

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Duh, BRAZIL ;) - Andrew Roche

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Two great dystopian flicks. I know I'm supposed to like Brazil more, and it's certainly got the vision...but I really do like Gattaca. Probably more than I should. - Jeremy Thompson

Brazil makes me sleepy just thinking about it. - Nathan Chase

Brazil isn't his best film. - Andrew Roche

Films like Gattaca have a certain charm though :) - Andrew Roche

De Niro's rogue A/C guy in Brazil is my favorite part about it. Kinda reminds me of his gay pirate role in Stardust -- such strange characters. - Jeremy Thompson

Is Stardust any good then? - Andrew Roche

very easy choice -- Brazil; and Andrew -- Stardust is very good. :D - Pete Delucchi

Agreed. Saw Stardust at the $1.50 without knowing what to expect, and it was great. - Jeremy Thompson

Brazil has terwrorwists, had could you sleep through that? - meika loofs samorzewski

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INFORMAL STRAW POLL: Is this cartoon racist?

June 11 - Comment - Like - Share

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RULES: This is a simple straw poll. YES OR NO ANSWERS ONLY. All other comments will be deleted - NO EXCEPTIONS. If you wish to comment on this cartoon or are wondering why this post is here, you may find the answer and comment here: http://friendfeed.com/us-poli... If you wish to remain anonymous, you may DM your answer to me. This poll will remain open indefinitely. - Steven Perez

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YES - Michael R. Bernstein

Yes. - Kevin Pedraja

Yes. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Yes. - Steven Perez

Yes - Joe Dawson

yes - Cee Bee

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Raoul: please see first comment. (Sorry, dude.) - Steven Perez

No - Ryan

No - Robert Hafer

No - Michael Koby

No. - Jeremy Thompson

Yes. - Paul from twhirl

Sean: please see first comment. (Sorry, dude.) - Steven Perez

No - Dave Roth

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Yes - John Flynn

Yes - Andy Bold

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TG: please see first comment. (Sorry, dude.) - Steven Perez

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No - Morton Fox

Yes. - Ted Gilchrist

No. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

yes - Alfredo

yep! - Katy S

No. - Rene Wirtz

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yes - Jamie Vidamour

yes - Tyler Gillies

yes - Amber, Random Time Lord

Yes - Charlotte M

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No. - Rob Haas

Yes - Give 'Em DBizness

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No. - Dawn

Dawn: I'm not sure who you're used to flouncing at here on FF, but I moved your comment to the right post. - Steven Perez

yes - martha

yes - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

No. - Bill Sodeman

No - Keith - @tsudo

Yes. - mridul

yes - Patricia

yes - Bren -- Making Contact

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Yes - Vox

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Think Progress » News Corp. forms ‘diversity community council’ in response to chimpanzee cartoon controversy. - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...

June 10 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"News Corp. has agreed to form an external diversity council after meeting with civil rights groups about a New York Post cartoon that critics said likened President Barack Obama to a dead chimpanzee. The company will form a “diversity community council” in New York City that will meet with senior company executives twice a year, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous said Wednesday. It also will include a statement of commitment to diversity in its annual report." - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet

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That "controversy" was manufactured BS. I'm a cartoon writer myself and that gag did NOT liken Obama to a chimp. People who go out of their way to be offended and drag people's reputations through the mud so they get on their self righteous high horse to score political power via trumped up victimhood make me sick. - Dawn

Dawn - Agreed. What usually makes me as irritated as the initial controversy is when the party in question -- as in this case -- bows to complaints and does something vapid and worthless like form a "diversity council" as though everyone involved is a simple child... when ironically, the children are the ones who can't properly parse satire, instead crying that people are bullies and life isn't fair. "Teacher teacher, make them stop!" - Jeremy Thompson

Great point, Jeremy. News Corp should have stood up against this unjustified mob attack instead of caving in. The more we allow mobs to win, the more mobish people get, and that's very dangerous. - Dawn

part of being a good communicator is making sure your message is clearly received by your audience. this cartoon didn't do that so well. - tiffany

Yeah, but you could say the same about every toon in the New Yorker. You have to be somewhat cognizant of recent events; some things are pitched at those "in the know." When people not in the know are unwilling to invest time in understanding context, they're wrong in launching ignorant accusations that impugn the very character and maybe damage the livelihood of a person. And at worst, what you're saying is that the author's a bad cartoonist, not a racist in need of reprogramming. - Jeremy Thompson

Thank you very much, Jeremy and Dawn. Up until now, I couldn't have still believed that people who were so proud of their country could so vastly ignorant of its history, but your comments have inspired me to help rectify that oversight here on FriendFeed today. Towards that effort, I will locate and post recent events here that show that, not only is this "victimhood" an expected... more... - Steven Perez

Steven - Thanks for the thundering rebuttal to my claim that there's a theme here of responding with bitterness and accusation when you're almost entirely lacking a context for that person's state of mind or intent. You assume much based on a couple of comments. - Jeremy Thompson

You're welcome. Rebuttal still in progress. - Steven Perez from IM

Note that when most people speak of "historical narrative" they generally mean social, political, and military events of sweeping importance -- not the subjective interpretation of a particular company or individual that fades into the background noise of polemic on both sides that never ceases to find a villain in every story, but yet never responds in the most effective way: ignore them and move on with your life. - Jeremy Thompson

Mmmmm-hmmm. - Steven Perez from IM

Less ad hominem smugness, more justification. I haven't leveled any characterizations at you yet, and I'm more than willing to engage the debate. But it's gotta be two-way. - Jeremy Thompson

Mmmm-hmmm. - Steven Perez from IM

What is this... hideous visage before me! *aghast* - Mo Kargas

i repeat jeremy: part of being a good communicator is making sure your message is clearly received by your audience. if he's a cartoonist, he's aware of imagery, its impact and its potential for misunderstanding. and if he's not, his editor should have been. that he wasn't means that he's a bad cartoonist *at best,* and at worst a barely closeted racist. the whole debacle could have been avoided by writing "congress" across the chimp's chest, no? - tiffany

I don't really care about whether he's a bad cartoonist. Some people hate the Godfather; a lot of people didn't understand 2001; and many many people don't "get" Monty Python's humor. Because those people exist, are those things failures? Or failures only to those people? Or not failures at all, because they succeeded for a minor but targeted audience? Either way, sure, maybe he's a bad cartoonist. I can't say one way or the other on that. - Jeremy Thompson

I think that's enough for now. But, in case you two missed it, here's the point: That cartoon ***was*** racist. Murdoch, no matter what his motives may be, moved to correct it. This type of action should be lauded, not vilified. Because racism hasn't gone away; it's still very much here. Hell, the guy who shot up the Holocaust Museum yesterday? Avowed racist. So, stop pretending as if there isn't still a problem in this country. - Steven Perez from IM

I'm still pretty lost as to how a dead monkey could be interpreted in any other way. It's not like dead monkey is a common term with history and context. Why not use a dead horse? A dead baby? A possom? A dead deer? All things that have a context of being a common dead term, and funnier to boot, as all have context within joke world as well. No, he picked a whole new dead thing, that happens to be the second most offensive racial visage. - Matthew DeVries

to be fair, matthew, there was a chimp shooting earlier that week. perhaps a dead donkey or elephant would have been more appropriate and less controversial. - tiffany

And in SOME arenas racism may perhaps be overcorrected or over taboo, and forums like Mr. Murdoch's can only help to tweak those as well. - Matthew DeVries

What is *by no means* clear is that he's a "barely closeted racist." Seriously, wow. We see litanies from easily offended people like the NAACP on how people need to be understanding of differences, not typecast people, understand relative perspectives, and so on, but yet this is the kind of conclusion we logically draw from "he's not aware of imagery and its impact?" You know that's... more... - Jeremy Thompson

Steven - Stop assuming. Nowhere did I say racism doesn't exist. Again, the typecasting of apparently thinking that because I take issue with what you say, I must be Enemy X with Y qualities. I said above in my comment to ignore them and move on -- if I didn't think there's something to ignore (racists & bigots, in this case), I wouldn't have said that. - Jeremy Thompson

I don't think there was an error of communication; the cartoon sent its intended message. For one, New York City has an ugly history of police violence against minorities. Murdoch and the NY Post editors know that. Second, you can pick nits about the origin of legislation, but the stimulus bill was identified more with Obama than anyone else, so the someone who wrote the stimulus bill = Obama. And what the cartoonist is suggesting is that Obama is a deranged chimp who needs to be controlled by police. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Jeremy - you realize we're not 1960's era robot computers that will explode if you trap them in a logical loop right? "Everything I say is a lie" "I'm lying right now" See, I'm not dead. - Matthew DeVries

FYI: You're defending a racist cartoon, jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

And I'm not trying to give the guy too much credit here (I haven't followed his other work), but even if the black guy-monkey allusion was intentional, it's still not clear IT ws racist. There's a not-uncommon notion in political satire of making the meta comment about perception within the toon. In other words, it's a comment about the week's events (dead chimp), politics, and the... more... - Jeremy Thompson

As I said before, Jeremy, I couldn't have still believed that people who were so proud of their country could so vastly ignorant of its history. Black people have been called "monkeys" since before this country was established, and you're just now getting the memo? - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - Repetition doesn't make it true. Nor am I saying it's false. But for all the talk on the left (e.g. NAACP, Dem politicians, etc.) of openness and communication and chilling effects of stifling words, it's silly and hypocritical to crush someone for a cartoon in a genre known for double meanings and satire and levels of commentary, published boldly in a public forum, for a cause (anti-racism) well known for overreaction and jack-booted thought-policing. - Jeremy Thompson

It's a racist cartoon, Jeremy. You can keep saying that it's not, but it is. - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - Not following the commentary too well, are you? We're all aware of the imagery, and there's no way the cartoonist could've avoided it. If I had to pick a motivation, I'd pick that he wanted the cartoon to make major waves, that he'd be believed edgy and bold, and that he'd be given a pass in the end for satire. Selfish, but not malicious. - Jeremy Thompson

Steven - No, I see you're not following too well. I didn't say it's not. I said we have no proof that it is. - Jeremy Thompson

Then why are you repetiting Jeremy? Your premise is wrong. Racism is not an accepted touchstone of political cartooning, not even ironically. - Matthew DeVries

It's a racist cartoon, Jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with an 8-bit program that missing 7-bits? - Steven Perez from IM

Matthew - My contention is that it could be a commentary on racISM, which doesn't make it racist. Same thing South Park has done since day 1, same thing Chappelle did on every episode of his show. Him being black doesn't make it different that they both notice the same trends in society and have a satirical take on them. - Jeremy Thompson

Also, I'll note that the police officers in the cartoon are depicted as white. Given the history of depicting black people as monkeys, and given New York's recent problems with police violence, I don't see a non-racist alternative interpretation. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Were your premise even remotely true Jeremy, I wouldn't have get underground copies of Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips. - Matthew DeVries

South Park and Chapelle are not ironic or overt, they are obvious, blunt and on the nose. - Matthew DeVries

Matthew - So is it seriously your contention that there can be no satirical commentary of racism without being racist? And that half the people viewing it would not get the satire? - Jeremy Thompson

Derrrr, yes. - Matthew DeVries

So how do you know you're not on the wrong side of it this time? The people who "don't get it" always think they're right. - Jeremy Thompson

And the way they think they're right is by thinking the author is evil. - Jeremy Thompson

Because it's a racist cartoon, Jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

Wow, Steven. Thanks for the insight. - Jeremy Thompson

If only your trend of posts didn't indicate that you're on a daily hunt for benighted evildoers to skewer, inevitably on the right, that claim might have some credence and not seem like an inbred a priori conclusion. - Jeremy Thompson

You're welcome. Please feel free to see all of the other examples I posted today which have three things in common: (a) They're all about Obama, (b) they all happened in the last nine months, and (c) they're all racist, too. You can use them as a reference the next you get confused about what is and isn't racist. - Steven Perez

Are they from the same cartoonist? - Jeremy Thompson

Why, are you looking to put together a book? - Steven Perez

I can see the title: "THESE THINGS AREN'T RACIST. NO, REALLY." - Steven Perez

Oh, so....no. Your logic needs a little work. "This guy is racist, you can tell because there are these other guys who are racist and THEY exist" doesn't work. - Jeremy Thompson

Why are you trying to apply an interpretive, grey, and graded judgement scale analysis on a digital, yes/no, black/white data? This is nominal scale data Jeremy - Matthew DeVries

Matthew - Justify. You're repeating, so I will: before killing a guy's career because you hate it when people are racist and want to find them all and GIT 'EM, especially when said guy is in a field known for layered meaning and satire, you need more than a hunch. - Jeremy Thompson

I believe the last one I posted should be most helpful for you, Jeremy. That would be the video of a man bringing a stuffed monkey with an Obama sticker on it to a Palin rally. But hey, maybe there's just some subtle satire at work that I "don't get". - Steven Perez

This isn't deciding that a borderline artistic nude showing perhaps a bit too much beaver is pornography or not, this is deciding that a chick with 3 double dongs and Ron Jeremy leaning over her with midgets hitting her with a whip is pornography. When you're this far from the middle, there's no point in calling it anything else. - Matthew DeVries

Racism is undoubtedly a problem, lots of people are racist, it's imbued in our nation's history as well as our species', and it will never die. Those people suck, and it's best to ignore them, but if you want to get them fired, well, go ahead. But none of that means that you can apply it decisively to particular people because there's a whiff of what you don't like to see/hear. - Jeremy Thompson

Ignore them. Right. Until they shoot up a museum. - Steven Perez

Steven - I agree on the stuffed monkey. - Jeremy Thompson

But you only debate and discuss the things at the interface. Not the stuff 3 standard deviations from the mean. That cartoon = mein kamf - Matthew DeVries

Steven - You yourself talk about how racism's such a huge problem, but how many museums get shot up? Tons of people have stupid beliefs, even beyond racism. But to have a pre-crime unit for the 0.0001% of them who actually commit a crime is taking us in the very wrong direction. - Jeremy Thompson

Or until they kill some cops in Pittsburgh. - Steven Perez from IM

Tiny minority. You'd have 85% of the country in jail for not believing what you consider PC. - Jeremy Thompson

Or until they make plans to shoot Obama during the Dem's convention in Denver. - Steven Perez from IM

neat number. You can sure fit some big things in your ass. - Matthew DeVries

You're right, it's probably higher. - Jeremy Thompson

You guys seem a little...emotionally invested in this. Which makes your conclusions a little suspect. Not to mention the methodology itself, of which there is...well, none. - Jeremy Thompson

Newsflash, Jeremy: JFK was shot by some nut with a $12 rifle. So, yeah, the power of one lone nut can't be understated. - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - We agree on that. But as with all things, it's a trade-off. Was JFK's life worth a pre-crime unit and the abolishment of most of the bill of rights? Do you actually trust those creeps in congress with that kind of power? - Jeremy Thompson

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism where a person's personal attributes, unacceptable or unwanted thoughts, and/or emotions are ascribed onto another person or people. According to Wade, Tavris (2000) projection occurs when a person's own unacceptable or threatening feelings are repressed and then attributed to someone else.[1] - Matthew DeVries

Yeah, it probably comes from being the target of racists early in life. Nice to live in a place where people think that Hispanic=Chinese. - Steven Perez from IM

And I'd rather not even go into what they thought of my brother, who has dark skin. - Steven Perez from IM

*gasp* Steven Perez is brown! *draws a cartoon of a dead bean* - Matthew DeVries

What? There were beans in the news this week - Matthew DeVries

Matthew - Not helpful. That argument can be used for either side, of course. - Jeremy Thompson

Yeah, so, I've heard the "monkey" thing before, Jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - That kind of stereotyping exists in every culture in the world. I'm realistic about the US's flaws, but that's not one of them relative to the rest of the world. If anything, we've shown a remarkable ability to assimilate. - Jeremy Thompson

And kudos for not reading the article at all, Jer. Who said anything about firing the guy? - Steven Perez from IM

Not saying that's from the article, but it's a common reaction to this category of offenses. Just saying that if you want to, cool, go ahead and put pressure and try. - Jeremy Thompson

Nice sentiment, Jer. But this didn't happen in an international paper. It happened in a NY paper and referred to a specific person in a negative light. It's still a racist cartoon, Jer. - Steven Perez from IM

Imus, for instance. - Jeremy Thompson

Remind me again, Jeremy. Where is Imus now? - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - Thought you were referring to the US when you said it was nice to live in a place like...X. No? - Jeremy Thompson

Yep. - Steven Perez from IM

Steven - Come on. Don't need the sarcasm. You this demeaning to anyone who disagrees with you? - Jeremy Thompson

And it's nice that you care more about some guy's paycheck than about whether he drew a racist cartoon, Jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

Right, so that's what I mean about the US not being worse than other countries. I can imagine there are some better, but the US is very good in the assimilation category. - Jeremy Thompson

And no, I'm usually not this demeaning to people. Just people who feel the need to defend racist cartoons. - Steven Perez from IM

Nope, I care about his paycheck if we don't know he drew a racist cartoon. - Jeremy Thompson

But we know he did - Matthew DeVries

Well, there's your disconnect. It's a racist cartoon, Jeremy. - Steven Perez from IM

Glad you fellas didn't set up our system of jurisprudence. - Jeremy Thompson

It is precisely jurisprudent. Dude murders other dude, in front of 280,000 witnesses, goes to jail - Matthew DeVries

I got a great idea, Jeremy. How about you print out that cartoon, find 20 black people, and ask them if they think it's racist? I'll bet you'll get quite a surprising response. - Steven Perez from IM

So are black people your arbiters of truth? - Jeremy Thompson

You seem to think that it's not racist against black people. Prove it. - Steven Perez from IM

If I were to look at your rants against Republicans and ask 10 Republicans if you're biased and illogical, would that make it so? - Jeremy Thompson

Steven - Told you, can't prove it. Not logical. Don't have data, just as you don't. You're judging a man's inner thoughts. - Jeremy Thompson

Hell, I'll make it easier. Take it to 10 black FFers and ask them what they think. - Steven Perez from IM

You have data Jeremy, the cartoon - Matthew DeVries

Haha, right. Let's take it to the Daily Kos or Digg, while we're at it. - Jeremy Thompson

Matthew - That's circular, and you know it. - Jeremy Thompson

Now THAT's funny. You think FriendFeed is like the Daily Kos. - Steven Perez from IM

IF cartoon has dead monkey in it THEN cartoon is racist. Do you see any kind of sliding scale or variable in that equation? - Matthew DeVries

Nope, don't draw such a strong parallel. But in MY feeds, at least, it's strongly left-slanted. Not sure if that's a trend. Definitely is on Digg, even though it's mainstream, too. - Jeremy Thompson

good lord, everyone should really have to take a math class in their life..... - Matthew DeVries

Matthew - Sure. So now no one could ever do a cartoon of a guy drawing a dead monkey cartoon while being dragged away to jail for it. Doesn't meet your standard, even though it's obviously a meta commentary. - Jeremy Thompson

Matthew - Logic really oughta come first, if you think math will solve this. - Jeremy Thompson

Since you're too fearful to ask, Jeremy, I'll do it for you. - Steven Perez

Personally, I'll admit I saw no Racism in the first look at the Cartoon, primarily because I do not have the African American=monkey image at the top of my mind. After hearing the commentary and remembering the analogy/slur from history, I saw the possible racist overtones in the cartoon. Do I feel it was an overt attempt at racisim? I can't tell without some research into the... more... - Andy Glover

Andy - Agreed; to get a decent idea of the guy's intent and MO, look through his history. Still won't be definite, but if there are other (not stretched) examples, I'd agree. But one toon is far too little to go on for judging the mind of a man. A) saying something that's a mess was done by a monkey is old as the hills; B) the stim bill was widely regarded as such; C) a chimp HAD just... more... - Jeremy Thompson

Guys, whether it is racist or not, it advocates assassination. 'nother little problem with it, don't ya think? - Katy S

I just can't resist to comment your poll itself -- forcing to yes/no choice... well, when you put one into choice of "you are with us or with them, choose" - it is one of cornerstones of totalitarian system. - A.T.

A.T.: if you believe that, then I encourage you to read the other 100+ comments here and reconsider your position. - Steven Perez

It's racist. Before I even read the poll request below it on the other post my thinking went "Dead monkey - stimulus bill? US. Somebody else writing it? Who's in charge of writing it now? Ah - US - Obama carries that one. Dead monkey == Obama? WTF??? This must be from some white supremacist thing after yesterdays stuff." And then I came here and saw more context. It's racist. I've seen... more... - Andy Bold

"Written by a chimp" is also a common expression for a poorly crafted document. - Robert Hafer

That's not what's in the cartoon, Robert. - Steven Perez

Robert - the animal in the cartoon is shot- presumably killed. I read that as advocating assassination. - Katy S

Liz Trotta, on Fox News, "joked" about assassinating Obama, after smearing him as a terrorist. She suffered no consequences for her remarks. She's doing Rupert Murdoch's dirty work. There is a well-established pattern of Murdoch media outlets attempting to incite violence against political opponents -- this is standard neoconservative operating procedure. - Sean McBride

Wasn't there a movie made about assassinating Bush? - Robert Hafer

Robert - I don't know - I don't pay much attention to movies. If that is true, I don't agree with that either. This isn't a matter of political ideology or position for me - it's a matter of common humanity and decency. - Katy S

Robert: yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... And it held that, along with being wrong, would have unbelievably tragic untold effects on our freedoms and civil rights. So, yeah, bad idea. - Steven Perez from IM

My first impression when I saw the cartoon was that the Stimulus bill was a poorly crafted. But then, I'm white and rarely consider race when dealing with others. - Robert Hafer

I work with words and images, specifically in terms of their rhetorical effects, so these are things I tend to be hyper-aware of. If I weren't aware of these things (different readings/possible readings/etc), I wouldn't be good at what I do. Plus, my dissertation research deals, in part, with stereotypes about early 20th century immigrants - I'm sadly all too familiar with racism via animal and animalistic imagery. - Katy S

Ten Cartoons from Sean Delonas http://gawker.com/5155855... It's clear that Sean Delonas specializes in hate speech -- look at the context. - Sean McBride

When somebody draws a picture of a chimp that has recently been killed and somebody else makes the emotional leap that "monkey = black man = Obama, " then which one is being the racist? Obama did not write the stimulus bill! - and everybody with intellectual integrity cannot legitimately make that leap. It's a perverted, self-serving argument. It was clearly not Obama he was taking aim at. As the creator of it said, "Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon." It is NOT a racist cartoon. - Dawn

Given the man's track record, Dawn, your premise is a real stretch. - Steven Perez from IM

BS, Steven. This is the same thing as somebody making an innocent comment and somebody else taking it sexually. Which one has the dirty mind? Why don't you look up the actual definition of "racist." You're the one who is being racist here. - Dawn

Sean's contribution: Ten Cartoons from Sean Delonas: http://gawker.com/5155855... - Steven Perez

Sorry, Dawn, it's a racist cartoon. - Steven Perez

Good grief - I can't believe we're still talking about this. I think we should outlaw all monkeys, personally. The very fact that they exist is an affront to all African Americans, given the pejorative nature of the word "monkey." Furthermore, since I'm one-upping everyone in terms of political correctness, that means that I'm automatically right and can't be contradicted since to do so would mean you're a racist. End of discussion. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

I remember Dawn from a thread long ago. *queues monty python track* - Richard pancakhaus Walker

Yeah, the old "NUH UH! YOUR THE RACIST!!1!!" argument. Haven't seen that one since 7th grade. - Steven Perez from IM

I see it about once a week around here. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

To that end - the real villain here is the actual monkey who went, well, apeshit, and killed someone. That primate should have known that it would get talked about as a current event and then drawn about, thus further perpetuating the term "monkey" as a way to demean black people. Just further evidence to support my case that all primates should be exterminated in the interests of political sensitivity. It's the only way to keep tragedies like THIS CARTOON from ever happening again. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Do Dawn and Mark have any comments on Sean Delonas's other cartoons? - Sean McBride

The topic's certainly weary, particularly since we'll never know for sure what he thought when he penned the toon or why his editor thought it cool enough to okay (although again, I suspect attention-grabbing to be the culprit)...and since racists do exist, running with knees bent among us, the horror, and we have to deal with narrow-mindedness of all scopes regardless of whether this... more... - Jeremy Thompson

1) No issue. Everyone was shocked by the "pregnant man" image, which is why it had the press that it did; anyone who pretends it's life as usual is lying. For a comic, a bunch of doctors facing the first "pregnant man" is funny. Comedians all over took shots at that one with no cries of hate. It's a fatally easy topic. - Jeremy Thompson

2) Easy play on McGreevey's claims that his wife is a homophobe, and that's why she said some of the stuff she said about him. Implication's that if she weren't a homophobe, she'd have no probs with the situation. - Jeremy Thompson

3) Political commentary on the left abetting terrorism. Common theme on the right; nothing more to say here. - Jeremy Thompson

4) This one's tough to defend. There's the prevalent commentary about opening the rights to ANY sort of marriage if you do for gays (i.e. highlighting the double-standard of those who want gay marriage, but are vehemently opposed to, say, polygamy), but that'd be tenuous here. Strong case for it being anti-gay. - Jeremy Thompson

5) Old, worn-out, unfunny gay stereotype, no question. Maybe anti-gay, maybe just poor humor. SNL's been cashing in on it for 20 years, probably less because they're anti-gay and more because they suck at writing funny stuff. Not sure where this guy falls -- could be either one. But we're getting a trend. - Jeremy Thompson

6) Liza marries a gay guy, it's her fourth marriage, he may've done it for the money alone, and it's a huge messy divorce in front of the world. Good call that this is far worse than gay marriage, and that's his point here. They gay couple's, umm...a little strange -- Frenchy? -- but not depicted poorly. We get the pranciness more here, but I'm starting to think that's more an uncreative visual crutch than any real statement about gays. - Jeremy Thompson

7) Straight-up humor. Set-up, punchline. No deeper meaning. The poster here is really, REALLY stretching to go for "women are whores." - Jeremy Thompson

8) Pretty funny. He's not making a statement about gays broadly, but about the ones with feathers and boas and extreme makeup who flaunt it in the gay pride parade. And that's their point -- those guys know they're being extreme and ridiculous, but they have fun with it. If you think the decked-out dudes in the parade don't have a sense of humor about it, you're really missing the mark. (Women themselves would be ridiculed for dressing the way those guys do.) - Jeremy Thompson

9) Rosie O'Donnell is fat, hairy, gruff, and altogether unappealing. Staple for unoriginal comedy since she hit the scene. - Jeremy Thompson

10) Waa waa waa. Leg joke. Not PC, but are we making the case he's anti-amputee now, too? - Jeremy Thompson

11) I dunno, whatever. Seen that Sharpton bit elsewhere -- maybe South Park? Either way, we got a black guy here and we're making fun of the guy himself -- and there's plenty of fodder there -- not that he's black. What's the point? - Jeremy Thompson

Aaaaaaand scene. - Jeremy Thompson

And based on your Rorschach scores, we'll be happy to accept you as a full Grand Dragun. Your hood is in the mail. - Matthew DeVries

Those big hook noses in the cartoon which attempted to smear the majority of Americans as fellow travelers of Muslim terrorists are in the tradition of gutter antisemitic Nazi cartoons. Delonas's obsession with gays is just weird. The fragrance of generalized bigotry wafts off his crude drawings in waves, and that, along with the Murdoch-financed venue, is the context in which to decide... more... - Sean McBride

Right, Steven, you saying the same thing over and over again like a two year old no matter what the challenge is superior adult debate. - Dawn

Dawn, I keep saying it because it's true. Stop projecting your own issues on me, please. - Steven Perez from IM

Dawn's misplaced comment: "You'll delete this, but it's totally bogus to not put this cartoon in the context of the day it was published. Editorial cartoons have a one day shelf life. It needs the context to be a valid poll. Now go ahead and censor me so that you can get the results you want. - Dawn " - Steven Perez

There. Fixed. - Steven Perez

And Dawn: if we're still discussing this in the morning, you're gonna get blocked. I've tolerated this digression for long enough. Get over yourself. - Steven Perez

LOL Don't bother, I'll block you. I don't waste my time on hypocrites. - Dawn

Says the woman who wasted a whole day. Bye. - Steven Perez from IM

So, Dawn, are you saying that there is only one context? That it isn't possible to read the image multiple ways? - Katy S

You know what the really sick part of this whole thread is? It started because Rupert Murdoch, a guy who I've never had a kind thing to say about ever, finally did a good thing. He may have been sincere, and he may just be covering his ass, but he did a good thing. He at the very least paid lip service to diversity and understanding. And how did some folks react in this thread? Like he... more... - Steven Perez from IM

SP - fwiw, there is an ethnic studies gen ed req on my campus that many of the undergrads complain about. Funny thing is that it was set up b/c several Fortune 500 companies told the University that they'd no longer recruit on our campus b/c the white students were "culturally incompetent" when it came to working in environments that weren't solely white. The complainers just don't get... more... - Katy S

I hear ya, Katy. Experience is a great teacher. The problem with a subject like this is that too many people just don't have any experience with racism. They've never been pulled over by a cop for driving an old car though a nice neighborhood (happened to my Pop a decade ago in Illinois), never gotten shut out of a job because they have an accent, never found themselves unable to rent in a nice apartment complex because they're not the "right demographic". It's a shame, really. - Steven Perez from IM

Yeah - the course I TA'd for was cross-listed in English (my dept) and Native American Studies. As I'm sure you know, there are an added set of issues when dealing with a group that has been colonized. - Katy S

Follow-up: Murdoch has already admitted that there is a problem with the cartoon -- he understands that it appears to be racist to many people. Was the intent behind the cartoon racist? We can't be certain, but the work of the cartoonist as a whole fits the profile of an earnest bigot. Suspecting that the intent was racist is reasonable. Murdoch media outlets have been spewing rank bigotry for decades -- he specializes in it. See Media Matters for America for all the documented details. - Sean McBride

Sean - the point about the difference between intent and effect is one I wish more people would consider. It really is important. - Katy S

Katy -- I wish more people had your background in analyzing rhetoric and cultural communications. Regardless of the intent, one needs to be fully conscious of the effects of communications. (One can't be certain about the intent behind the cartoon, although full context justifies reasonable suspicion; about the effect there can be no doubt.) - Sean McBride

Nathan Chase

Crossroads vs. From Justin to Kelly - http://www.flickchart.com/316EFE7...

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HAVEN'T SEEN EITHER! - Nathan Chase

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and don't plan to. ever. - Nathan Chase

Hahah, you really got that without trying? That's terrible. - Jeremy Thompson

I've never heard of these movies. EDIT: Bleeech, yes I don't want to watch them either. I liked it better when I was ignorant of these movies. - Admiral Anika

I've naturally heard of Crossroads, since I have every Britney Spears movie set to auto-order on Amazon when it comes out, but I don't know about that other one. - Jeremy Thompson

maybe a better matchup would have been Crossroads vs. Glitter... - Nathan Chase

maybe a better matchup would include non of these movies. - Amit Morson

@Amit - exactly! hahaha.... - Nathan Chase

Sara was an extra in From Justin to Kelly.....she's so GAY! - Joey

Akiva Moskovitz

I just signed off of AIM... forever.

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I'm 100% Google Tizzalk now. - Akiva Moskovitz

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What prompted the decision? - Yolanda

I don't use IM much anymore but there were only two people I talked to that still used AIM and when I asked them to move to Google Talk they both said, 'Oh, I only use AIM talk to you anyway.' - Akiva Moskovitz

Good decision. - Mo Kargas

*uses AIM and YIM, but mostly YIM* - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

Ha... well, yay for no more AIM. - Yolanda

i sometimes actually miss IRC, but it's turned into a total wasteland since the mid-90s...or perhaps it was always like that and i just never noticed before i left it behind seven years ago. - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

RefD, I'm still a daily user of IRC but it's definitely not how it used to be. I stick to +npst channels mainly. - Akiva Moskovitz

Wish I could say the same. Unfortunately we use AIM at work. :( Although a couple of us are rebels and use Skype when we can. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Akiva: i was referring mostly to Undernet, i can't really speak about the others. - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

Ah, I've been an EFNet die-hard since the early 90s. - Akiva Moskovitz

hey wait, we did not discuss this on AIM - Josh Haley

You were on AIM?! - Tamar Weinberg

Oh, and if anyone wants to get in touch with me, you can find me on GTalk as my first name dot my last name at y'know, that Google mail thing. - Akiva Moskovitz

I still use it quite a bit. Both for work and friends. Friends are showing up more on facebook more these days though - Rodfather

I use Pidgin and am present on almost all of the networks (with the exception of ICQ). Have too many friends scattered all over. - Jorge Escobar

@Jandy you can use a jabber transport to use AIM over gtalk if you don't mind not having file transfer - mjc

I never think about providers anymore - you're either on my Digsby list, or you're not. I could care less what service you're piping through. - Nathan Chase

Yeah, Nathan, I was like that for a long time, too, but now I'm just being a bit anal about it. - Akiva Moskovitz

john.worthington.aac[@]gmail.com sir! Pls be my friend! *puppydog eyes* - Johnny Worthington

I know the cool kids have moved to Pidgin & Digsby. but I use Trillian because it works for me and I don't have to concern myself with what IM service you are using. - jbrotherlove

ICQ is where it's at. - Jeremy Thompson

congrats akiva - Tyler Gillies

hahaha, I'm laughing at ICQ. - veo

I'm liking Digsby too - Rodfather

Note that I was referring to the protocol and not the client. - Akiva Moskovitz

I still use MSN messenger all the time *blush* - Adrian Scicluna

with xmpp. protocols like aim seem so antiquated - Tyler Gillies from email

I ditched AIM a couple of months ago too. And Yahoo Messenger. Next up, maybe ICQ. - Kol Tregaskes

Never thought I'd be lumped in with the cool kids, but I do like Pidgin. I have a bunch of diehard AIM friends. They have discovered blogging, so maybe there is hope for them. - Heather Solos

Curious, what's the beef with AIM? - felix

as an aside, I've never had AIM-proper installed, yet it's always been the protocol I have the most friends on. I used Trillian when I first got an AIM account, and now use Digsby exclusvely. I'm always signed in to Yahoo, AIM, MSN, GTalk, and Facebook, as there are people I know who use each... - Nathan Chase

Right, I haven't used the AIM client since Trillian came out and, even then, most everyone I know had moved from ICQ to to AIM and stayed there. I only had a couple of people using MSN and no one on Yahoo. Around 2001, I tried to get people to move to Jabber but that never took. Now, everyone uses GTalk so I wanted to go ahead and unify. No need to be on AIM when those with whom I was talking on AIM were using GTalk anyway. - Akiva Moskovitz

I use Digsby, usually signed into both GChat and AIM...AIM is mainly there because sometimes GChat doesn't connect properly. I really only use chat for the Ladybug. - Scott of Two Countries

"Just say no" to proprietary protocols and software (unless server-side and free, as a service). - coldbrew

I don't care whether something is propriety or not: as long as it does what I want in a way that I want it, it's fine by me. - Akiva Moskovitz

With proprietary stuff, one day it may "do what you want" and the next not. It's your call, and I'll admit to being quite conservative. - coldbrew

I've never had that happen. - Akiva Moskovitz

AIM, remind me? - Amit Morson

AIM never took off with me, ICQ is a legend!!! - Amit Morson

I still have a six-digit ICQ address. - Akiva Moskovitz

As do I. My first was a 5 digit one but I lost it pretty soon after. - Amit Morson

Yeah, just like you were going to stop commenting after 19,999 posts... - Kevin Trotman

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