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Nice --> Dear Hallmark, if you make a card that doubles as a vibrator I may start believing in Valentine's Day. Love, Me /via @vdog
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our hosted project management search is over, we are going with Unfuddle, it does everything we are looking for & more http://unfuddle.com
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I'm always open to testing new PM hosted services. Currently very happy with clockingit.com which is a free hosted service or you can run your own. Can you tell us what compelling features made you choose unfuddle?
- Mark Krynsky
Cool... I am a Project Manager and would *love* to get your feedback on this app.
- Susan Beebe
I haven't project managed a software project in years. Any suggestions for current favorite apps? Or weblinks to pros/cons of different systems?
- Mitchell Tsai
Mark I listed the features in my original post, but it's not just about features, there are many other factors that influenced our decision to use it, too many to list here. That's what demos are for and Unfuddle as a free one, so check it out.
- Scott Beale
See you made your decision but we use (and like) TeamworkPM.net. For nonprofits, Huddle offers a nice premium program for free.
- Peter A. Mello
I use http://Atlassian.com 's JIRA and Confluence (integrated apps for issues, bugs, SVN repo, Wiki, etc.). Also used eProject (now owned by http://Daptiv.com). I was looking at using Trac too
- Susan Beebe
did you concider assembla? It seems even more feature rich.
- Lloyd Budd
neato will add to my list http://slashpd.blogspot.com/2008...
- Peter Dawson
Lloyd, haven't heard of Assembla before, it looks really good as well, but appears to be more geared for software development.
- Scott Beale
still enjoying unfuddle?
- Lloyd Budd
coldplay's latest live album is allowed for free download on their site now: http://lrlrl.coldplay.com/leftrig...
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We're subletting our SF apartment (across from Dolores Park) for ~1 year. Best place I've ever lived. Could be yours! http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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"I got put on Twitter's official suggested users list last night. I asked them to take me off it today and they did." http://twitter.com/jayrose...
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i wonder why they don't ask people before they put them on the list? maybe they just assume that everyone wants to be on the list
- Chris Heath
I will do the same, if I get put on the Twitter list.
- Robert Scoble
I think I asked the last time there was a similar conversation - so please excuse the question if it was already asked - but why would you want to be removed? Am I missing something? Since I don't really use Twitter maybe there is something I do not understand.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: I will refuse to be on this list for three reasons: 1. it's not a meritocracy. That means that my inclusion on it will raise questions about whether I did something behind the scenes to get on the list. 2. It is a gift from a company I would like to cover journalistically in the future. If I got the "gift" of being on the list I could no longer do that and keep my own integrity. 3. Being on the list gets you huge amounts of unenaged followers. I really am not in this game just for numbers.
- Robert Scoble
...you're a man of principle, Dave Winer.
- .LAG liked that
LPH: Go to TechCrunch's followers. Look at the engagement level. Most of his followers don't even put a picture on their avatars. Now go to mine and compare. The engagement level is HUGELY different. I'm paid to get an engaged audience, not an audience of bots or an audience of people who don't participate in the Internet.
- Robert Scoble
LPH: TechCrunch's followers: http://twitter.com/TechCru... My followers: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... -- what differences do you notice? Look for signs of engagement. What are those? 1. Have the members put a photo on the avatar? 2. Have the members actually done a tweet or two? 3. Have the members actually followed anyone on their own (organic following?)
- Robert Scoble
Robert - now that makes sense. I just don't use Twitter enough and am used to FF engagement. Guess I'm spoiled !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: now do you see the problem Twitter is facing here? http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsen... -- lots of hype, not enough engagement. It's engagement that advertisers will pay for, not the hype.
- Robert Scoble
Or, visit this article about non engagement: http://features.csmonitor.com/innovat...
- Robert Scoble
Hint: this list is actually making things worse for Twitter's returns and engagement. Here's why: 1. If you get onto Twitter because of a celebrity, that's great, but I've found people get very fickle about celebrities. Go to @oprah, for instance. Is there anything really that interesting there to read day after day after day? I don't see it. But what if your best friend is on Twitter? Yes, I find following my close friends on Twitter day after day IS interesting and DOES get me back to the service.
- Robert Scoble
2. Twitter seems to only endorse "celebrities" on its recommended follower list. Well, that tells normal users that they don't matter to the system as much as celebrities. So they feel less engaged/empowered. Compare this to Facebook where celebrities only can have 5,000 friends. Now everyone is on the same level and the system "feels" more intimate and engaging because of that.
- Robert Scoble
Great point Robert, and that's another reason why sites like Facebook (and in the past MySpace, Friendster, etc) are 'sticky' ... people you actually know are there. Most people will be more engaged with people they actually know - i for one don't engage with celebs on twitter because i know they're not going to engage with me
- Chris Heath
bet that if twitter had a "best-of-the-day" feed like, no celebrity will on it. twitter is becoming less conversational. pity :(
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Chris: right! Plus, this list really penalizes the real users of the service (this is why Allen Stern's points about friendfeed's list being bad are starting to win me over). Those who put the most time into the service should be rewarded by that service. I've been on Twitter 890 days. The fact that someone else is on the recommended list that's only been on for 15 days really pisses me off and makes me more likely to go elsewhere.
- Robert Scoble
Shivanand: right, and it would be a lot better for engagement to have something like http://alltop.com/ which recommends people based on your content interests. If I want to hook into people who are into quilting, why would such a system recommend Mike Arrington to me?
- Robert Scoble
i'm texting scoble from my iphone and it's mangling every goddam word
- Dave Winer
The other thing about 'recommended' is For What? I might like Robert, but not if I'm looking for hollywood dish. same w/ jay, obviously.
- reed price
Dave: the iPhone keyboard does that. (I'm on the phone with him now).
- Robert Scoble
I've never found the suggested users list to be useful, on Twitter or FriendFeed. Frankly, I don't care if you're "just some guy/girl" or if you're God...if you don't say anything that interests me or teaches me something new, I'm not going to look for what you have to say. If you put all the numbers aside and make connections on a one-to-one basis, even though it's accessible one-to-many, that's worth finding.
- Sally - Skyrimmin' It
The celebrity suggested user lists completely miss the point of Twitter, implying it's a broadcast system - which is a minority use case. Services like Mr Tweet are far more apposite. Even random selections might get you started better!
- Tom de Grunwald
A friend of mine joined Twitter and had list of "friends" and she didn't know who they were. It's like moving to a new address and getting a bunch of junk the first time you open the mail box.
- Tom Newman
Tom, they're not really "friends", you're following a person, they may be friends, they may not. I know, picky, picky, picky.
- Rob Fahrni
Reed, i totally agree... suggested lists are a nice thing to have, but only when you know why the suggestion is being made.
- Chris Heath
Maybe a better model for a suggested list would be to look at more than number of subscriptions/follows - look at how many posts/comments - on FF they could also look at how many services or what services - if i post a lot from a service then the suggested list should maybe show me more people from that service ... one thing i will agree is that a suggested list is a hard thing to do because you can't please everyone with your suggestions ... just look where we are now...
- Chris Heath
Even though I respect your reasons, I still can't believe you did it. It's such a huge opportunity. Yes but I do see what Scoble is saying. it would be impossible to criticize them.
- Stephen Pickering
Oh my bad, It was Jay Rosen. I thought it was Dave Winer. Oh well, same difference. I can totally understand him. He's a journalist. What would be interesting to see though is if he remained on the list but remained totally objective and criticized them when it was appropriate and see if they then took him off.
- Stephen Pickering
NICE: @anonymoustom: "celebrity suggested user lists miss the point of Twitter, implies broadcast system, a minority use case"
- .LAG liked that
Dave, why do you think they put you on the list?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas: Dave wasn't put on the list, Jay Rosen was. I bet he was put on the list because he's one of the best Twitterers around and because he doesn't do anything "negative" in their eyes, like talk about friendfeed or overload users with too many tweets.
- Robert Scoble
Don't forget the fact that there will be no way your followers can all DM you if you're on that list.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that's a good point and since I care more about having engaged followers than just a broadcast mechanism, that matters to me too.
- Robert Scoble
When a 'cat who tweets' makes the list, while many worthwhile charitable/educational organizations are ignored, something doesn't smell right. And it isn't just @sockington's litter box.
- Sharon McPherson
How many more requests did you get while 'recommended' versus say a normal day?
- Andrew Leyden
ah got it. It was Jay not Dave.
- Thomas Hawk
Probably not the same league as Twitter, but Tweetree.com shows you (Dave) and Scobleizer on their front page sometimes.
- Hiro Asari
Jay's decision clearly struck a nerve: Look at all these comments! ... Re: Robert Scoble saying he'd refuse to be listed because (a) it would raise questions about quid pro quo (b) gift would compromise his journalism, and (c) unengaged followers -- I get a & b, and applaud him for it. But I'm not sure I grasp the downside of having 100,000 "unengaged" followers. How do you know how...
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- Alan Mairson
Wow, I hate this! As someone who does UI UX and product strategy, my hatred fascinates me. Why is this so awful? FF killed the scannability to have yet another boring news feed, yawn. YANF (yet another news feed) UGH. Well, maybe I will discover the joyful pink bits if I poke around long enough.
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Took me a long time to understand and like FF. The ability to easily comment and the rooms are highly useful and powerful.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Susan: I started a "does friendfeed suck" thread here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
HAHAHA joyful pink bits ...Now that is a useful addition to my vocab
- Maren Hogan
A dollar bill taped to the floor of friendfeed's offices: - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Zu from AOD, Monique, Pat Hawks and 145 other people liked this
This is a dollar bill taped to the floor of FriendFeed's headquarters. It's a bit of social engineering. They figured out it kept people from tripping on the cord cover because people noticed the money on the floor.
- Robert Scoble
Hahaha, now that is brilliant stuff. Awesome.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
This is a fantastic idea.
- Jeremy Botter
Wouldn't last long in my office.
- Ralph Whitbeck
Amazing.. think I could use this idea in a few places.
- Roberto Bonini
Clever! i love it.
- Federico [Kurai]
from twhirl
Simple, clever, great idea. That FriendFeed crew is a bunch of smart fellers!
- Brandon Wood
My employer is too frugal to do that.
- Jonathon
Inexpensive risk management.
- Dave Pelland
Ha! Very clever.
- Brent Newhall
brilliant
- mjc
Wow! I'm speechless.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
nice
- Mike Collett
The dollar bill trick doesn’t work with strippers though ;)
- Tony C (Unrated)
@Earl: Consider it a stripper-filter, then. You know someone's a stripper if they trip over it.
- April Buchheit
for some reason i expect a "stripper filter" to be something coded using regular expressions. sad, i know.
- Karim
The message here is that Web 2.0 companies are so ignorant of money and revenue that they even step over a dollar on the floor
- Jason Carreira
from twhirl
Genius!!!
- Joe Dawson
Interesting. The photo has been viewed more than 500 times, but has only earned 62 likes and 19 comments. So, for every 1 thing we can see here there's another 9 people hanging out lurking in the shadows.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble the old 90-9-1 rule :) (well almost)
- Naor Mark
You could always just superglue some road kill to those things. Nothing gets people's attention more than a dead opossum.
- Andrew Leyden
wow, that's funny smart!
- Susan Beebe
I stubbed my toe on that dollar.
- Michael Muller
Heath And Safety in the UK would not approve....but I do!
- Toby Graham
"but has only earned 62 likes". This currently stands as the most-liked Flickr photo of all time.
- Vezquex
I forgot about that photo. It does work, though. Everytime I visit friendfeed's offices I see the dollar and I'm careful not to trip over it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
As an IE I can state that's definitely not something to publicize. Definitely not OSHA Kosher.
- Arawak
Great idea will have to remember this.
- Laura Gonzalez
Reminds me of the deli counter in grocery store in Scotts Valley across the street from NorCal offices of MetaCreations (the Fractal Design arm of it). Local companies'd go there for lunch daily. PROBLEM: Deli counter pencils (for marking your sandwich menu) disappeared at frightful rate. SOLUTION: Deli affixed pencils with price label. Price: $100.00. Pencils stayed at store. :)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Haha I like that trick for keeping Pens from going missing Susan!
- Garin Kilpatrick
DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE WAY TO TYPE IN THE 21ST CENTURY!?!?
Hutch Carpenter, Steven Perez, edythe and 24 other people liked this
no. definitely not.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I blame Oprah for my outburst.
- Bwana ☠
And my lack of coffee today
- Bwana ☠
MaYbE We ShOuLd StArT a TrEnD aNd AlL tYpE lIkE tHiS fRoM nOw On? RiGhT, @oPrAh?
- Les Zaldor
These computers are just advanced typewriters anyway. *return*
- Stian Tønnesen
It was the way to type pre-1878 when typewriters only had one case. Back then, all typewriters were cruise control for awesome. :)
- Morton Fox
ONLY IF YOUR NAME IS AKIVA
- Rochelle
SPEAKING OF CENTURIES, THEY'RE OK. BUT I'D GIVE UP THAT UOM IN A HEARTBEAT FOR MEASURING BY CENCHURROS - THE LENGTH OF 100 CHURROS. YUM! (yes, laid end to end for distance, and the duration of the average human to eat as many for time).
- Micah
WAIT WHAT
- Akiva
DID SOMEONE SAY CHURRO?
- Bwana ☠
MAKE MORE WIIS!!!!!!!!!!!
- Andru Edwards
huh...it's the 21st century already? :o/ <takes off 18th century jacket>
- Rob Sellen :o)
YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT NINTENDO!
- Bwana ☠
I have a couple of friends who type LIKE THIS. ALWAYS. I am tired of telling them not to do so but nobody listens!
- Rahul Das
OPRAH SAYS IT'S OK, SO YES
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
who's oprah? *steals akiva's line*
- Micah
Who's Akiva?
- Akiva
WiN! (http://beta.friendfeed.com/micahwi... )
- Micah
that drives me crazy.
- Scott H
use caps just makes me ignore what you are saying
- Kevin Adair
No - uh, hell no.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
DON'T FORGET THE PERIOD ．
- LouCypher
You guys are being mean, CAPS LOCK is the shit ! =D
- Faraz Mullick
No, in fact I have un-followed people for that offense.
- Richard A.
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
- Rich
YES! CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M SHOUTING FROM A LONG WAY AWAY!! <caps lock off>
- Chris Loft
LOUD NOISES!
- Mo Kargas
NOISE ?=? SIGNAL
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Is @ev helping out @aplusk for @oprah show? I'm getting tons of messages from people who realize they can't unfollow that account. I can't either.
zokiboy, Bernard Moon, Paul Stamatiou and 50 other people liked this
wait now they are blocking unfollows?
- rob friedman
Yep, I cant unfollow him.
- Christian Burns
This is not right at all. We should have the right to unfollow him if we want to. Personally, I'm not following him, but still, THIS IS NOT RIGHT!
- Michael Forian
rob: yeah. I can't unfollow @aplusk
- Robert Scoble
oh BURN!
- rob friedman
as aplusk woud have said on That 70's show
- rob friedman
Nope, I can't unfollow Ashton..but I can unfollow other users
- Sam Houston
Oh that is cheap Twitter, You can't unfollow @Aplusk!! I am glad I didn't do it at all!!
- Paul
The beginning of the end... Twitter has sold it's soul to Oprah.
- Trad Robinson
You can't stop following? -- that is lame. I guess you have to be special to get that set up?
- Brian Sullivan
I've tried to unfollow @aplusk and I cannot do it, either.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I'm so glad I never followed that one. Maybe they moved @aplusk to it's own server and have the SQL update/delete locked down.
- rob friedman
Leo was just talking about that. Makes the whole platform a joke.
- Eric
I can't follow @Aplusk, let alone unfollow. Twitter's just borked. No conspiracy here folks, sorry.
- drew olanoff
I followed him, but it took a few minutes to register - maybe unfollowing is the same?
- Caffeinated Sue
Glad I never bothered to follow him anyway!
- Chris Charabaruk
Eric: the whole platform has been a joke since day one. Didn't stop all of us from joining.
- Robert Scoble
lol @ own server
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
Twitter cant afford to have that account go down
- Christian Burns
Weird. Twitter's been acting wonky the last few days tho.
- Tiffany Monhollon
wow.....
- MikeAmundsen
Twitter is becoming the new VH1 "Where Are They Now" countdown special.
- Eric
And @aplusk's follower count is still going up.
- Michael Forian
definition of Twitter = Wonky
- rob friedman
Twitter's infrastructure is just falling apart, as always
- Michael Krigsman
@aplusk is adding about 2-4 followers a second from what I can tell.
- rob friedman
I've tried to unfollow for a couple of hours. I have successfully unfollowed marketers and spammers in the same time frame, just not Kutcher. Getting this error message on him "Whoops! Something went wrong. Please refresh the page and try again!"
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Okay, I just tried to unfollow, it didn't work. Has anyone tried to unfollow CNN?
- Caffeinated Sue
I was unable to unfollow @aplusk, but I did just unfollow @scobleizer. Just a test ;)
- Ryan Kuder
I tried to unfollow both of them and it gave that Whoops error
- James Rowe
You can't unfollow @cnnbrk either. Wow, this sucks. Twitter's obviously trying to cover their parfaits.
- Michael Forian
Brings new meaning to the term, "default"
- Jesse Stay
Being pretty new to Twitter (two years but very sporadic until the last few weeks) I hadn't heard of @aplusk until today. Anyhow, I went to try to follow him in the last few hours and none of my attempts were successful. My conclusion: the race is rigged by joint PR effort, they want him to break the million just as he appears on Oprah. Or something like that. I have to say that, given it's a free service, I didn't mind too much. But I probably haven't invested as much of myself as Scoble and others here :)
- Richard Drake
Well, the million follower scandal will hopefully show us technical folks what not to do if we ever hit it big. http://twitter.com/aplusk... Hacked really? pfft.
- rob friedman
can't unfollow, but I can still block. Let's all punk him and block him. (I did.)
- Michael Markman
1,000,000 blocks that'd be nice
- rob friedman
Honestly I don't remember ever following @cnnbrk, and I don't see updates on page, or tweetdeck
- James Rowe
So, what does blocking do?
- Dennis Jackson
Twitter's TOS: "General Conditions - We reserve the right to modify or terminate the Twitter.com service for any reason, without notice at any time." Wow. This blows big time.
- Michael Forian
blocking makes it so that user when they are logged in, are unable to see your msgs
- rob friedman
I see the TOS. I still don't think it's right they are doing this. They need to make it fair. :( boo..
- Dennis Jackson
I wonder if it has to do with the "aplusk's 1,000,000th follower gets this and that and the other thing" promises that people/organizations like EA are making. By blocking people from unfollowing those accounts, they could be hoping to prevent people from unfollowing right after he hits 1,000,000 and the jockeying to become the "real" 1,000,000th follower that's sure to come.
- Gord McLeod
This is common for users with a lot of followers. I see it with our users on SocialToo all the time - it's some sort of bug in Twitter, assuming it's not a conspiracy.
- Jesse Stay
You can block him though http://twitter.com/aplusk
- Christian Burns
I just don't see how blocking him does anything.
- Dennis Jackson
Hrm, that certainly takes some wind out of Twitter's sails...
- Trish Ridgway
Ashton is saying on his twitter feed that his account is getting hacking continually. Maybe this is a protective measure?
- Karl Kovacs
Guys, I think I've figured it out: the "unfollow" only takes effect after a few minutes. This applies to both @aplusk and @cnnbrk.
- Michael Forian
After a few minutes? I tried unfollowing Oprah and Ev and those don't work either. I wonder if it's my browser.
- Dennis Jackson
I can't follow him either. It pretends I'm following him, but when I refresh, I'm still not following him. I don't think this is what everyone thinks it is. Seems more like the account state is frozen.
- Cait
I've seen something lke this happen to regular users - follow again, clear browser cache, reload page, try to unfollow again. If that doesn't do it, try blocking. I would never have followed @aplusk in the first place, so I can't perform the test
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Maybe it's a scaling/load issue with their database.
- Gord McLeod
digg it: http://digg.com/d1ovKP
- Chad DeHaan
Ashton's closing the gap: http://chartbeat.com/cnnvsas...
- Caffeinated Sue
Looking at the stats for @aplusk and @cnnbrk, it appears they maybe working on a tie instead of a win. The numbers have gotten too close to call.
- Karl Kovacs
Karl's got it. Almost certainly a preventative measure in case the accounts get compromised. I'm wondering though... a) Does this take the heat out of Apple's one billion app milestone? and b) Does it really matter because Oprah will storm past both of them (indefinitely) once she starts tweeting.
- Smashing
I was able to unfollow @cnnbrk for sure.I was able to follow @aplusk and THEN I COULD NOT UNFOLLOW @aplusk
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Maybe he paid for that little service. It's one way to monetize Twitter. Then Twitter will charge us to unfollow those people.
- Mary Wehrle
I was able to block @aplusk just fine
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Ashton watching it live: http://www.ustream.tv/ashton
- Caffeinated Sue
http://www.ustream.tv/ashton idiot has too much money, so he spilled champange on his macbook.
- rob friedman
guy makes me ill
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"i read all your @replies" - ashton
- rob friedman
yea, fan mail new low.
- rob friedman
I should block aplusk while I still can! :)
- Morton Fox
FWIW: I first unfollowed @CNNbrk,worked fine then followed @aplusk could not unfollow, blocked @aplusk then followed @CNNbrk and was not able to unfollow @CNNbrk
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
darnell: No...starting a little while ago..bug or not. This is going to blow up already starting to
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
perhaps twitter did not do this intentionally. their app may be hitting some functional limits! They've got to be scrambling over there... kinda feel sorry for them! LOL
- Susan Beebe
there's really not much that can make me feel sorry for them. starry-eyed, failing to manage their business for their customers (and I'm talking outages and lack of notifications esp) sympathy gone.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
oh no! there's gonna be a recount and lawsuits. what will the country do until we know the final answer? oh my! least it's cheaper than a sorry ass movie.
- Landon
No Way! A Twitter PR Disaster brewing quickly! Twittersphere speak it loud.
- Kemp Edmonds
I'm seeing a lot of noise about this already....lots of RTs (and coincidentally lots of follows on my account LOL!)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
This sounds like an interesting topic...
- coldbrew
Surely if CNN actually stated tweeting (they haven't done any since they took over the account) and they put it on their program, they would have a huge surge. CNN isn't taking this seriously. Maybe it is because it isn't!
- CJPhoto
That's what you get for following any of them in the first place. You keep trying to leave, but they keep pulling you back in.
- dewtheone
aplusk had 1.9 million users, and now I see just 1 million ?! Something is not quite right.
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: what, you expect Twitter's engineering to be good? You have GOT to be kidding!
- Robert Scoble
I personally think this is because to not allow people to unfollow and then follow him back to get a 1millionth follower gifts from EA... my opinion...
- Hameedullah Khan
When I unfollowed CNNbrk, then followed CNNbrk again later tonight as per my experiment, I could not un follow. no gifts from cnn right?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
what a joke...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Scoble I was just understating my outrage ;)
- Ahsan Ali
Mark, looking for 0 tweets is pretty much dead giveaway
- rob friedman
from twhirl
Mark well I'm sure there could easily be a collaborative effort given the amount of people using the service, and the amount of companies or projects using the firehose, we could easily find new users, and check their followers out, and who they may follow, then give that back to twitter to judge who is "real" or someone. Adding spam watchdog would be easy too since someone already does spam and link checking.
- rob friedman
Someone posted that Twitter disabled the unfollow feature for this jive
- Outsanity
Weird this was I couldn't even ADD Ashton to my other Twitter account. So maybe both functions were disabled. But, if that were so, then how did he hit 1mill? Odd...
- Outsanity
Thank you for asking that question.
- Prokofy Neva
Chris: So If I can run a big contest to gain followers I giving away fabulous prizes, Twitter will fuck other people around for me too. Yet another example of Twitter really only giving a damn about the big name stars & companies,
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I wonder how many million follower user accounts it will take before Twitter does something drastic?
- rob friedman
I unfollowed him, the 1st day he made that proposal....what happens when he hits 1MM followers? what next? 1.5MM?
- clarke thomas
Really?
- ChiliMac
Chris: Fabulous Idea! I'm gonna march right down to @ev's office with a bunch of cupcakes and get my refund today! :) heh. -But seriously, its now how I was damaged personally but about how Twitter is making sure there is the "great divide" between the Followed and the Followers. The more they've focused on the stars the less Twitter is about real interactions between real people. This damages the community, and I am sad to see it happen this way
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I would have been more impressed with Twitter overall if it had taken the opposite approach and shown us what value there is in following ordinary people who have interesting things to say. But instead, they show extreme favoritism towards people who have large draws. Go ahead and ask to see if you can have a special favor from Twitter so that you can draw in an even bigger crowd than you already have. It doesn't hurt you, no, but sure doesn't help you either. What's wrong with wanting equality?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nothing's wrong with wanting equality. Internet is becoming just as assymetrical as real life is. The more crowd you already have the less job to take to build even bigger crowd. Sorry, but Twitter can't help you. It's not the matter of Twitter. It's the matter of what kind of people use it and what goal they achieve using it.
- Денис
No Twitter can't help me, or you. But it can and does help: Mashable, Oprah, Jimmy Fallon, Tony Robbins, etc, etc, and now Ashton & CNN. It is a matter of Twitter and what kind of people they strive to attract.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yet another reason Twitter has launched a high velocity missle over the shark for this user. I'm still using it, but most of my time now is here on FF.
- Mark Traphagen
It's the too big to let fail doctrine applied to social network chosen ones. wow.
- Micah
Mona's ff post to Rafe's cnet How To on unfollow technique that seems to work http://beta.friendfeed.com/monasfe...
- Micah
Its easy to unfollow send a message: "off aplusk" in Twitter. Simple as that. I suggest a mass unfollow in order to avenge this dirty trick.
- Alexandre
Alexandre: I don't think that unfollows; it just keeps his updates from showing in your timeline. So no message sent that way.
- Mark Traphagen
Great business use of Twitter: one of my favorite restaurants in SF @lunaparksf is sending out discount passwords to followers
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It makes sense that Twitter will become the mobile couponer of choice - especially since it costs $30 grand, I'm told, to start up a similar service using SMS - using a proprietary channel, at any rate.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Would that be "word of tweet" or perhaps "tweet of mouth"? We need new terms for this!
- caj needs a haircut
hmmm... And I'll be in SF next week... How about that?...
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
ha3rvey FYI the discount is for Monday nights only. They'll tweet the password sometime Monday morning. 50% food and 40% off bottles of wine. Not bad!
- Mike Doeff
Apple stupidly rejects Tweetie 1.3 for foul language in Twitter trends - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
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I would suggest that everyone hashtags #tweetie on twitter for the next few days so that Apple Inquisitors are comfortable with it
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Absurd.
- Clay Newton
omg I LOVE TWEETIE. damn you apple
- Erin @queenofspain
You've got to be kidding me. I guess they had too many deserving new fart app updates or something.
- Warner Crocker
Apps can't be held responsible for content they don't own. This is ridonkulous. I <3 Tweetie!
- Abbas Haider Ali
Perhaps Apple's problem is with the Russian and German Localization. Some cold war fighter is still holding out.
- Jimmy Walker
Apple apparently changed their mind, is going to allow the app. see http://venturebeat.com/2009...
- Karim
Update is available now on the app store. I just downloaded it. Love the RT (vs. via) style for RT. New dark theme is cool too.
- Abbas Haider Ali
How asinine of that Apple reviewer not to understand that those trending words have nothing to do with Tweetie. I'm glad they figured out their cock-up.
- Rick Cogley
Do you realize there are now people who call themselves "professional tweeters." I've lived too long. Please shoot me.
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sounds like speakers to me
- Logan Lindquist
I've seen folks add it to their CV as professional skills. Along with "Professional Facebook user". It's beginning of the end!
- Ricardo Vidal
Seems risky to add to CV unless specifically related to the job, no? Like "Hire me and I'll spend most of my time surfing the Web."
- Herb Hernandez
wait, wut?
- Shey
and there are people who are called dickheads for decades, the beauty of life is in the mix
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Must be code for "I have no job"
- Eric
They used to be MySpace consultants.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Just shoot me. Financial crisis is one thing, but this...?
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
fortunately for them, ramen noodles are cheap. I can't think there'd be a way to make significant money tweeting today (yet!)
- Stephane Kasriel
gross
- Denise Young
yes, we call them twits.
- Sean
I think Leo Laporte would have a major problem with them being called Twits. :D
- MarkCarras
where does one get paid to tweet? I'd like to apply for that job!!!
- Sean Reiser
I don't think it's that strange, but people hiring might, esp if it's not for a marketing job.
- David Lynch
...that's asking for trouble... the 'shoot me' part. .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Like telemarketers...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
That's hilarious! Reminds me of ppl who put "Java: 5 years of experience" on their CV when Java was only a public language for 3.
- Kevin Elliott
A profession usually nets one some sort of financial compensation. Who's paying these "professional tweeters' for all of their time spent tweeting?
- Jeff P. Henderson
I need some names and output to judge what they're up to. I might be interested in supplementing my income :)
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Whatever happened to all the Professional Friendsters?
- James
@ James, They got real jobs.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'd like to hear their answer to the interview question, "What is your biggest challenge as a professional tweeter?"
- Carolyn Chan
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse... How do they fit any of the dictionary definition criteria?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
And I appreciate that "meeting the dictionary definition" is short-sighted, but the point is, how do they do it as a job? How do they make a living out of it? Assuming they mean that they're "experts", then who defines the criteria of "expert tweeter"? Crazyness.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Bob Blunk: Sure, I hadn't thought of people *employing* people to Twitter on their behalf. Strange world we live in.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Bob Blunk - Ewan Mcgregor is 'threatening action' over a fake Twitter profile - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news...
- James
tarpipe workflow for SXSW - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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My son's phone broke and he is emailing me in full sentences...which he realized halfway thru the convo: "See Mom, I DO know how to spell!"
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None of "The 25 Most Valuable Blogs" are blogs. http://247wallst.com/2009...
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Drudge is one guy with a grudge and a lot of time. It definitely seems blog-ish to me. Techcrunch feels like a blog to me as well. How do these differ from what a blog is? What do you consider a blog?
- Andrew
What's the definition of a blog? What makes them not blogs?
- John Wang
Very similar to the TIME list http://www.time.com/time... and I think they are blogs. Some are multi-author, some are blog networks, some are professional, some are blogs-growing-up-into-serious-journalism, but they are all blogs. High quality (not the stupid Powerline that TIME touted on their cover, trying to give all blogs a bad name by associating them with that crap), too.
- Bora Zivkovic
The best blogs are not teenage existential angst, and we should celebrate the evolution of the top blogs into serious sites that demand respect!
- Bora Zivkovic
The Problem With Following Everyone - http://www.utterli.com/~u-ODEz...
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Thank you for this. It's a ridiculous argument, especially with Twitter turning into the the equivalent of MySpace/Facebook/etc. where people are just trying to collect the most friends.
- Hillary Hartley
I really screwed up today. When the plane crash happened I should have opened a friendfeed room. Here's why:
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1. A room can hold multiple searches from http://search.twitter.com so I could have tracked a lot more items.
- Robert Scoble
2. A room would have been a permanent repository of info about that event.
- Robert Scoble
3. I could have mixed searches from Twitter search along with searches from Google News and Google Blog searches.
- Robert Scoble
For instance, for the CES/Consumer Electronics Show I created a room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... -- this room has feeds from quite a few blogs and from quite a few live searches.
- Robert Scoble
Next time you'll know better-
- Richard A.
What prompted you to think about the room these hours later?
- James D Kirk
4. You could have international coverage and integrated items, images etc.
- Richard A.
James: I thought about it at dinner and kicked myself. Here's a room I created for Davos/World Economic Forum: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Scoble
Truth is you could still do it. But what would be missing is the instant reaction through comments. With work, you could also reshare the most interesting threads and have them there (sans comments).
- Louis Gray
Richard: exactly. I could have pulled in Flickr photos and YouTube videos.
- Robert Scoble
Louis: yeah, but now it would be polluted. It would be much more interesting to do while the event is going down.
- Robert Scoble
What about live video streams, can those be included?
- Richard A.
Not a screw up at all. To be honest, I had no idea any of this could be done with a FriendFeed room, so I've learned something, and I'm sure others will here as well.
- Brandon Mendelson
Richard: sorta. You can certainly put a URL in to the live stream while it's live. Afterward you can pull in the RSS feed for the video recording.
- Robert Scoble
www.frienddeck.com can have multiple searches on one screen at a time.
- Paul Kinlan
Brandon: actually that's what I'm hoping that next time there's a news event like this that other people create the rooms so that we can quickly get caught up on a news event just by visiting a room.
- Robert Scoble
Really - whatever we lost from the oversight we just gained in your explaination :)
- Soulhuntre
Paul, yeah, I'm playing with http://www.frienddeck.com -- looking pretty good.
- Robert Scoble
I love it. You are learning and helping me along the way as well. Thanks for sharing. Next time you will be on it...and maybe I will be too!
- Troy Malone
Robert, Excellent, I need all the help I can get with it making it better.
- Paul Kinlan
Troy: rooms are very powerful. I'm just starting to understand how powerful they are. Here's my ego feed room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Scoble
Paul: you should create a "super like" that lets me automatically shove items I see in frienddeck into a specific room for others to view. I'd use it more often then and that would be crack for important news events.
- Robert Scoble
my fear is that all this valuable information (especially the one from Twitter yesterday), will not be here in a few weeks.
- Orli Yakuel
Orli, why would it disappear?
- Richard A.
Richard: it doesn't disappear it just becomes very hard to get to.
- Robert Scoble
yeah, but if you feed search terms into google reader you have an archive for certain keywords. Then can download that locally for posterity.
- Richard A.
Twitter is not saving the data (or letting you see/fine it) after few month. I am not sure about friendfeed though. but if it's information that coming from twitter, you wont be able to find it here after a while.
- Orli Yakuel
Hi Robert, I think I might be able to "copy" an entry from a searcg to a room and "auto like" it as well.
- Paul Kinlan
Robert, you can't find data from 2007... when did you join Twitter?
- Orli Yakuel
Only keeps 40 pages worth of tweets, but the database increases, when we look at post number.
- Richard A.
Orli: Google can get to older Tweets, but Twitter search can't. I joined in 2006.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I love these lists! I've added this conversation/idea to the Pros and Cons of FF: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- B2B Specialist
Another necessary element is load distribution. Quickly sites with first hand images ground to a halt. Maybe we need a site we post to which distributes and caches info for subsequent mass sharing on ff/twitter
- mal
Thank god for Web archive: http://web.archive.org/web... but some of my tweets looks like this: http://cli.gs/G9HhtB BTW, did you know that once upon a time you had only 148 followers?! http://web.archive.org/web...
- Orli Yakuel
sounds a bit manufactured...
- Bob Sonin
Random thought: Google News does a good job of bundling stories about the same event. Maybe FriendFeed should do the same thing, and when a significant term starts getting a lot of buzz, a special 'newsroom' gets auto-generated and starts aggregating items...
- Foomandoonian
There is a "Breaking News" room http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Andrew Leyden
Here's one caveat: If you reshare to a room, geoRSS info doesn't come along with the item. This is of concern to me since I made OurDoings, currently the ONLY way to email geocoded photos from a mobile and have them show up in real time on FriendFeed with a map.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll put my name on the list of people learning a lot about the use of Friendfeed rooms here. Does anyone know of links where these aspects are reviewed in detail?
- Peter Efland
hudsonplane - room : http://friendfeed.com/rooms... still updating web2.0 viralism dynamics analysis on this -plus updates of any kind , followed from original analysis at http://friendfeed.com/e... incl. http://krunchd.com/hudsonplane link collection
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Great idea @scobleizer, "get a room" is a great idea to capture breaking news. Like multiple search.twitter.com streams. Smart. Next time.
- Mike Reynolds
interesting. I've never thought about using rooms that way. Would non room members see the posts in the room though?
- Thomas Hawk
Posts to the room wouldn't show up in people's normal feeds unless they join the room.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I would think that would be a limitation. Especially with breaking news. Not everyone would see the posts, especially right away. It would be invisible to most people on FF I'd think. You could of course post a link to the room in your own FF feed at least to let your friends know you'd make it.
- Thomas Hawk
the trouble w/ rooms is that they are not easily visible w/ most FF UIs. once created, they don't 'leak' anything to the public stream and lots of folks will miss the data. need a 'fix' for that.
- MikeAmundsen
I think Mike and Thomas are right. An option to make room posts appear in people's regular streams would be a win. Right now people just post about the room, or comment on others' posts on the topic. Works OK, but not the best.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Well, if you want a hacky work around: create your room, pull that room feed through something like Yahoo Pipes and then pull the pipes feed into your homefeed. People will see it then, and it should be marked in the URL that it's a FF room.
- FFing Enigma
<plug>who needs rooms when you have search columns on http://www.frienddeck.com</plug> :)
- Paul Kinlan
you might be hard pressed to get people to join a room for a realtime event like that. most people would never see it unless you spend half the time promoting the room. Might work for a story as big as 9-11, but this story is pretty much over.
- Josh Haley
Good shout, Paul (pph my first post via the real-time page!). :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there, there, next time...next plane crash
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Paul, nice app. Any plans to make it show media?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Yeah, Will try and show media soon. Need to work out a way todo it with breaking the columns whilst make it look good.
- Paul Kinlan
I will probably add in twitter search into it soon as well.
- Paul Kinlan
Thomas: yes, anyone can see into the rooms I've created. We could create a private room that would be members only, though.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone can see what's in the room when they go to its URL, but I don't think that's what he was asking.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
oooh! man, it's almost so obvious. that for sure would have been nice!
- SolidSmack
from twhirl
I think you should also consider a room for this discussion. there was a nice coverage of the plane crash on thomas hawk's page http://friendfeed.com/e..., that too could have turned into a nice room
- Xavier Vespa
I just added a feed for the Friendfeed Davos room to Google Reader. If you are already a GR user, this URL should open the feed directly in GR: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Sean McBride
Robert, you did an amazing covering the plane crash (and I think I'm not the only one who would say that)! Don't beat yourself up :)
- Michael Forian
Robert, thanks for being obsessive enough to think this through. It's exactly what I've been trying to puzzle out about FF and how to use it in breaking news situations. This discussion is extremely helpful.
- Karoli
Why does this have to fall on you, Robert?
- David Bisset (sn)
It'd be very handy if rather than re-publishing items into a room, you could just create what amounts to a symbolic link to an existing item. You wouldn't lose any comments, no existing flow would be disrupted, it's just that a pointer/mirror would appear in the room when you added the link.
- Ken Sheppardson
i tried a 'hudson plane twitter friendfeed'- yahoopipe now, dunno if it sux or not. the argument on the isolated room was good, but i didnt wanna offTopic spam my main feed ; http://friendfeed.com/e... ; http://friendfeed.com/ewing20... ; http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
CNN says they are about to interview the guy who took the 'famous' Twitter photo (2:50 PM EST)
- Andrew Leyden
he's on 10/10 tonite 01/14, 10 pm too. i think his followers are now in the 4 digits ; http://twitter.com/jkrums
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
As of Jan 15, 2009 4:48pm EST twitter.com/jkrums had 167 friends, 192 followers, 480 tweets (I snipped it to compare later, which is right now).
- Micah
As of Jan 16, 2009 8:48pm EST twitter.com/jkrums has 2,982 friends, 3,063 followers, 487 updates.
- Micah
@micah wow. amazing stats.
- Morgan
Morgan, I agree. Let's see what happens by next week.
- Micah
rt @giorodriguez first presidential portrait taken with a digital camera http://change.gov/newsroo...
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amazing on so many levels. totally awesome.
- Hillary Hartley
Cat Riding On A Roomba Vacuum - http://au.youtube.com/watch...
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terry radford, Sid Yadav, Adrian Pratt and 21 other people liked this
LOL! I just wish my cockatoo wouldn't FREAK OUT whenever the roomba was on. I would be forever entertained if she would ride it. When I was a kid I used to collect remote controlled cars... I set up perches on them and would "torture" my cockatiels by making them ride around. I think the only reason they did was that they were too afraid to let go when the cars were moving. I used to build "ski lifts" for them as well from their cage to my canopy bed.
- Lindsay
Cool. Kevin U should hire the Cat, will make a great Digger! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Get The Hell Off Of My Blog, When Google AdSense Goes Bad - http://laughingsquid.com/get-the...
Hillary Hartley and Dave Schumaker liked this
thanks for your continued support of No on 8, scott.
- Hillary Hartley
Make-Believe Maverick : Rolling Stone - http://www.rollingstone.com/news...
Hillary Hartley, Mike Reynolds, Stanton Teters and 18 other people liked this
"A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty"
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
The comments alone are worth the read. Politics seems to bring out the worst in a lot of people.
- Henry Burger
"Dramesi says he has no desire to dishonor McCain's service, but he believes that celebrating the downed pilot's behavior as heroic — "he wasn't exceptional one way or the other" — has a corrosive effect on military discipline. "This business of my country before my life?" Dramesi says. "Well, he had that opportunity and failed miserably. If it really were country first, John McCain would probably be walking around without one or two arms or legs — or he'd be dead."
- EricaJoy
This hasn't made it to factcheck.org yet -- does anyone know of a reputable site that's either fact-checked or responded to this article?
- Tom Stocky
Everyone should read this article, and watch this Daily Show piece: http://www.comedycentral.com/videos...
- Hillary Hartley
Have been asking for this for years for my phone: http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008... - but only w/o math. That shit could very well stop me SOBER.
Hillary Hartley liked this
Not Everyone Should Own a Home - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
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Interesting take from an Aussie- "Maybe only a friendly foreigner could say this. But America needs to realize that not everyone can own a home."
- Andy Kaufman
Fact. The problem is the social engineering of the public toward a feeling of material entitlement.
- Nope Not Listed Here
I'm pretty sure the Constitution has a clause on the order of: If metaphor overwhelms you, you can't hold the nuclear football.
Hillary Hartley and Susan Beebe liked this
hollyrae, Rodrigo Jaroszewski, JP Habaradas and 74 other people liked this
LOL... scary! haha
- AJ Batac :)
It just won't stop. Please, make it stop.
- Andrew Trinh
awesome =)
- FFing Enigma
Am I missing a reference?
- Yuvi
Auuughhhh that's freggin scarry
- Bwana ☠
wild!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
awesome
- mike "glemak" dunn
Yuvi, the movie Exorcist.
- Yolanda
O M G
- Mladen Srdić
@Yolanda - Darn, still don't get it :( Guess I'll look it up tomorrow..
- Yuvi
You have to watch that Yuvi. It's a classic. ;-)
- AJ Batac :)
The movie is about a young girl who is possessed by demons. In one popular scene, her head spins around... very similar to the cat in the pic. But, yes, you should see the movie. :)
- Yolanda
hahaha!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
ha! But, I was sort of expecting some green projectile-vomit action. :/
- Anna Haro
That cat has to be part owl.
- Admiral70
I wonder what show she was watching...
- AJ Batac :)
that does not look like a real kitty
- Anne Haynes
Cats are teh evil
- Jason Carreira
GYAH!
- Mo Kargas
Silly cat! : )
- Erhan Erdoğan
interesting, this video doesn't play on the iphone
- Thomas Hawk
What, no puke?
- Outsanity
LOL, I can't stop staring at it!
- DJ Lein
Ahhhhh!
- Charlie Anzman
Love it and am sending it to everyone!
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
creeeeeeepy
- Phil Glockner
holy crap
- Kyle Lacy
whoa! weird kitty!
- Susan Beebe
Matt, this one was reshared from the original, which was posted via the bookmarklet. Perhaps it is only animated gifs that are uploaded directly that do not work?
- Phil Glockner
10 Futuristic User Interfaces - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
Rob Record, santiromero, Laura Norvig and 4 other people liked this
Several of these are really interesting! I particularly like the wireframes at the conclusion of the this related article: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... The Apple, Google and "your company's app". Hilarious!
- Charlie N. Browning
Barack Obama Overtakes Kevin Rose On Twitter. McCain Is Nowhere In Sight. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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So?
- Michael Tefft
McCain supporters don't want to follow some flak on Twitter? :)
- Sam Pullara
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