If McCain's campaign is any indication at all of how he would run the country, then this election should be a landslide for Obama.
- jcunwired
Let's see: Obama started his career in the home of a terrorist, his campaign benediction was given by a hate-monger, and he has ACORN committing election fraud for him. Yup, a good indication (just another Chicago politician)
- Robert Hafer
Guess that means Al Sharpton would be a good president. He's run several campaigns.
- Andrew Leyden
Any more refuted talking points in your coffer, Robert Hafer?
- jcunwired
Let's see, the last president had a lot more experience and let's see what he did? Oh, yeah, became the worst president EVER. Obama is a Senator. Taught at law school. Community Organizer. But it doesn't matter what I think. I'm just tired of people like Hafer who pull this kind of misrepresentation. Go hang out with Joe the Plumber.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Really? ACORN is committing election fraud? Who identifies the bogus registrations? Do fraudulent registrations wind up as votes? There is plenty of real documentation on this if you're willing to look.
- AJ Kohn
Rufted by spin doctors, but no less true
- Robert Hafer
Wait just a darned minute, Mr. Scoble. I don't want that guy hanging with me :-)
- jcunwired
Umm, no, it doesn't ;) Apropos of that, one of the funniest SNL skits ever, from 1984 - Jesse Jackson lampooning himself in the game show "The Question Is Moot." http://menino.com/mirror...
- John Craft
So your sating that Bill Ayers isn't a terrorist, Rev. Wright isn't a hate-monger and ACORN isn't committing voter fraud? Or perhaps Obama refuses to release records of his associations because he has nothing to hide.
- Robert Hafer
That's a silly metric. Obama's qualifications aren't his accomplishments, because he has precious few worth putting up for scruitiny. Obama's qualifications, like him or hate him, are his intelligence, and his fresh (though increasingly Washingtonian and familiar) angles on issues.
- Mark Jaquith
from twhirl
Hafer, two words. Charles Keating. McCain's association cost us, the taxpayers in the US, $124.6 billion. Does this matter?
- jcunwired
@Scoble: Yup, sure did. @Hafner: ACORN is required by law to submit all registrations. They flag those that they believe are fraudulent. They then go and fire those canvassers and help prosecute them since they have actually gotten paid for bogus work. Read up.
- AJ Kohn
Indeed. ACORN is required by law to submit the false applications. They have to group them separately (which they did) and submit them to election officials from the state. Mickey Mouse will not cast a ballot. This is all just silly fake outrage from people trying to suppress the new voters registering to vote for Obama.
- Rolf Schewe
I love it. Mention Keating, they clam up immediately on all the Ayers sound bites.
- jcunwired
I have had this same thought. Talk about being a community organizer! Obama is a healer and an inspiration. It takes incredible skill to run a campaign like he has.
- Sarah
Yup, Ayers just opens up a huge can of worms for the Republicans.
- Alex Scoble
@Joe - and Obama's chief financial advisor was CEO of Fannie Mae, how much is that going to cost us? When someone doesn't have a voting record to speak of, what are you suppose to base an opinion on, campaign speeches?
- Robert Hafer
Robert, you may have missed it, but John Worthington asked you a question below, which I'll requote: "how about some reasons TO elect McCain (and not just cause he isn't Obama)? " I confess I am interested in your answer.
- John Craft
Top McCain fundraiser accused of ‘war profiteering.’ -- http://oversight.house.gov/story... as reported by Think Progress. The company is run by Florida businessman Harry Sargeant, who has raised at least $500,000 for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).
- Glenn Batuyong
@John I did miss that, and I'm that I'm no McCain fan. It's just that his fiscal policy is less ruinous than Obama's. And I believe (but can't be sure) that McCain is more likely to support Democracy around the world. I get perturbed that the news media is so in the tank for Obama that they help to spread his spin.
- Robert Hafer
Obama didn't run the campaign, his campaign manager and the Democratic party ran the campaign. If Obama were running it, I'd say that he sucks. With Bush's 8 years of fumbling, the Dems should have an 80% lead right now.
- Douglas Karr
from twhirl
@Joe Snopes.com? why don't you just quote the Daily Koz?
- Robert Hafer
I'll plead ignorance. When did Snopes.com become a tainted source?
- Christopher Galtenberg
LOL@Hafer. “In life you need either inspiration or desperation.” You clearly have chosen the latter.
- jcunwired
"Reality has a well known Liberal bias." - Bill O'Reilly, 4 November 2007
- John Craft
@Robert Hafer: '...the news media is so in the tank for Obama that they help to spread his spin'? Whaaaaa? All of the 'spin' that you introduced earlier in this thread - all of which is being spread ad nauseum by Fox 'News' - has been soundly proven false via non-partisan sources...so please help me out and identify the 'spin' that the media is spreading that is helping Obama???
- Steve just Steve
I couldn't win Dance with the Stars, but that doesn't mean Kristi Yamaguchi should be president.
- Rob Sterling
It's not the dancing MiniMage - it's the paramilitary-looking outfits that's making it creepy. I think fawning that much over any political leader is pretty creepy, but the fatigues take it to the next level.
- Tad
I was just about to ask whether you'd ever been exposed to black fraternities/sororities.
- cecily
Yes Cecily, I have - maybe not to an extreme extent, but I went to Mississippi State University and had a few friends in Omega Psi Phi. I've been to a few step shows. Do they still dance with canes? hehe
- Tad
Ooh, Tad. Omegas and canes? You're lucky there aren't any Omegas on Friendfeed (that I know of).
- cecily
See, I've seen fraternity guys stepping in cammo, so I don't see it as those kids are emulating military. I've had to shop for step outfits before, I'd have been happy to have it that easy! I've also been to step shows where hand placement, lining up, turning and chanting/shouting were done very much like this. Instead of bragging about Boy Phi Boy, they were making statements about Obama. Not so scary.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Obama is acting and sounding presidential because of his own discipline, but also because Senator McCain couldn't be acting and sounding LESS presidential.
- Jeff De Cagna
from Alert Thingy
He should of acted Presidential yesterday and got 12 of the 90 democrats to vote yes yesterday. Including 3 from the Chicago area or 5 of the chairmen leaders.
- Caleb Easterwood
Why, so that this heist can go through unobstructed? Have you read the bill? You can drive a semi through the loopholes in just the first 10 pages.
- kris. nuttycombe
It's not Obama's place to try to get house members to vote on a bill. He's not president yet and to do so would require stepping on a lot of toes that he'll need when he does become president.
- Alex Scoble
"Whatever is necessary", Mr. McCain, is to butt out of that which you provide no help whatsoever. This sounds like "I will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell". Unless, of course, hell is located in Pakistan.
- jcunwired
Wow, he's so busy, he has no time to be President!
- Shawn Poulson
This is McCain quietly acknowledging that he can't win.
- David Ortiz
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. His involvement this last time was of no help. Republicans abandoned Bush and McCain on this issue.
- Jim Goldstein
Wow the journlist is sucking a lot of McCain there...
- Sheraz Mahmood
from twhirl
wow, is it me or is it BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that Steve Douchie is a McFanboi
- Dan
I just find it amusing watching the refusal by McCain's campaign to sit on their spin for just ONCE, and relent to what other people saw: that the Repubs did NOT want John McCain with them last Thursday, that he looked and acted less than presidential in last Friday's debate, that he took credit for forcing the bailout bill through HOURS before it went down in defeat, and that he...
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- Helen Sventitsky
This is the weirdest election campaign I have seen since....well since Bush in 2000. The double standards that are being whined over is nauseating. I can wait to get past this nonsense.
- David Ortiz
The Thursday meeting went down in flames because of the Obama staff. An Obama supported in the Treasury office leaked an agenda to the Obama staff, and they wrote up a list of attack points for Obama. The other Dems in the meeting deferred to Obama so he could look more like a leader. When they did, all he had was attack points, which put off the House Repubs
- Robert Hafer
Right, and I'm sure the Republicans did absolutely nothing to deter the progress of the bill. They all agreed with each other on every point and tried to ignore Obama's attacks and do what was best for the country, right Robert?
- Eric Geller
My understanding of the House Repub. reaction was that the meeting was a setup for Obama to attack them and they had been sandbagged. Too much politics leads to the anticipation that everything is political. McCain suspends campaigning to do his job and all the news outlets can talk about is whether or not it was a good move politically. My point being that no real work gets done.
- Robert Hafer
Please do. And this time make it permanent... take your ads off the air, pack up your lawn signs, and go live in Wasilla with your trophy running mate.
- Michael Markman
From NewsGrange: "Yesterday, people posted screenshots of their desktops – the day before – pictures of themselves – tomorrow, it’s going to be a picture of their feet. FriendFeed (or at least the part that I am subscribed to) is becoming a completely self-referential community that creates less and less value for me."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Agree? Disagree? Let them know in the comments. (And no, this is not my site or opinion)
- Louis Gray
It's a little harsh, although I do accept that there has been a serious shift with FF. Where as it was once primarily a secondary discussion around posts, today it's a full blown social network in its own right. And I might add, it's a network I'm happy to be part of, and unlike facebook, it's one I'm happy to spend time in
- Duncan Riley
It's impossible to create aggregator that shows exactly the content you want. FF can be fine-tuned with lists and hides to filter, but it can't be perfect, either. I think all the meme's etc bring the community together and makes them more likely to add more useful content, too :)
- Jemm
They should subscribe to fewer people. My tech list doesn't participate in most of the memes and I don't click like on many of them either.
- Robert Scoble
So come on, who's going to start the "Photo of my feet" meme?
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
I think tagging / categorizing would bring more value as I want to add both fun and tech content. Tags would help filtering data for my followers from my end.
- Jemm
use the lists feature, which i find to be a great sorting tool on FF, and adjust your filtering strategy. personally, i don't mind the pictures of people, and their feet... it brings a little bit of humanity to what is an essentially unnatural activity...sitting in front of a computer, that is...
- .LAG liked that
FF needs to step up its filtering. None of the noise referenced on Newsgrange -- a nearly naked site, by the way -- would be evident if the author could exclude posts containing the word "meme" in the title. Beyond that: boo-hoo. Sorry to track our muddy feet across your pristine, sterile, unsocial network. People are noisy, and people have arrived.Figure out how to see what you want or move on to the next Pure Land.
- Chris Baskind
I would have to disagree. Maybe its just the people but I honestly didn't see many post about the list at all. And also, sure there are many useless memes, but I see may great photos, news stories, personal stories, funny things, etc throughout the day. I don't know what Friendfeed your referring to, but its not the one I'm a part of.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
if you're only getting your feet wet with Friendfeed and playing around in the home feed, then yeah, I agree it's convoluted (although, personally that works for me). However, with just a little tuning of the rooms and lists, you can avoid most of that stuff, if you really wanted to. For me, I'm only peripherally interested in the tech news, it's everything else that goes on here that really strikes my fancy.
- Pete Delucchi
Chill out dudes, it's not that serious bisnes. It's funny and nice to see what people has :)
- Kristian Salonen
ff key: separate signal from growing noise
- Igor Poltavskiy
I for one appreciate the non-tech posts, just as much as the tech posts. Friendfeed isn't just for discussing OAuth...
- Matt Harwood
I agree, this isn't Techfeed or Oneparticularsubjectfeed, this is Friendfeed which means that pretty much anything and everything can be shared. That is why you can connect so many different services to Friendfeed and why you have rooms based on different topics. Yes, there are some instances of noise. But, I must say that even as I've subscribed to more and more people I'm not really encountering any noise. And the only things I find myself hiding are post in languages other then English.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
on the topic, i think duncan said it well early in the thread & louis what sort of site have you linked to, its a void except for this mindless "hating" ff now that its diverse post - that's not like you...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I see the point but it's simply a matter of subscribing to the people who interest you/who post articles/shares you are interested in. I don't get it. Doesn't this person know how to do this? Was FF created for tech news only? The name certainly doesn't suggest that. You can share what you like, if the reader doesn't like it then they can unsubscribe or create a friend list tailored to their needs.
- Kol Tregaskes
Great buttons on FF.. Hide, Unsubscribe & Block. Don't like what someone says, just hit one of those buttons. Problem solved. :) Wish I had them in real life. Granted I probably would be as alone as Wil Smith in I Am Legend.
- Uncle CW™
After joining FF, my activity on all other sites has not slightly decreased, but I am happy with FF cos' now I don't have to login to all those sites just to see what others have posted. I log into them only if I want to post something. Otherwise I carry on discussion only on FF. In simple words, I love FriendFeed!
- kunwar
Mike, I saw the site left a trackback on Robert's list. It does seem to be a bit of a hit and run.
- Louis Gray
Bah, whinging because of FF's increasing variety and diversity - it's still social media, so there will be social aspects. FF's slowly diverging from it's original tech bias, deal. Use the tools provided, block, unsubscribe, or use lists to remove what you don't like or simply be more discerning in subscriptions.
- Mo Kargas
Talk about linkbait... well, he got what he wanted.
- Sprague D
I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community. If the early adopters would like a tech list to dabble in information create a room and hang out in it! I happen to like a bit of diversity on FF... it adds to the value for me. Isn't too much of a photo meme the same as me getting pissed off on the 30000 Google Chrome posts? Or the iPhone App posts that litter my home feed? You can get tired of stupid, funny postings. You can get tired of random noise and
- Kyle Lacy
chatter. The last thing you need to do is get tired of FriendFeed. If you are tired of personality and a community of diversity, go quarantine yourself in Strandz. :-) This is what social media is all about. Have a good day everyone!
- Kyle Lacy
Definitely Kyle, once again on the ball mate
- Mo Kargas
Louis, and all, I did stop by and thank the author for sharing his/her opinion. I have no worries with listening to the opinion and am not offended. Robert is fairly accurate in his assessment, as is Mathew (and many others). I have come for conversation on all manner of topics. I am interested in more than simply tech, and I hope that my likes and comments reflect that. I have begun to really enjoy the oddball humor and many interesting recommendations that come from everyone I subscribe to. Keep it up.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I don't understand why any of you who are involved in tech and promoting new applications would feel like the growing popularity of Friendfeed is a bad thing. Why would anyone publicly discourage the growth and development of any application in the mainstream? Is it only a great application when it's shiny and new and yet undiscovered by the masses? Personally, I get tired of reading the same tech posts linked by 20 different people.
- Trish R
This happens to every social site - as the community grows, it tends to trend towards the kind of stuff that a large community can agree on, which tends to be funny pictures and dumb memes more than thoughtful commentary. Bolstering the rooms feature for more topical discussion would help greatly with this; in the meantime I'd suggest just culling your friends list.
- Eric P
You can't tell people what to do or share. You can just filter the people you find interesting, and make good use of the rooms and lists features.
- Alejandro
I like friendfeed as it has become. its a community of different people and different ideas. to qoute public enemy "bring the noise!" :)
- (jeff)isageek
This is what turned me off FriendFeed for awhile, and after trying to come back the same thing. I'm not going to call out any names but I got tired of seeing FUNNY PICS and just silly things that isn't new, just midly interesting, and most of it I had seen before on sites like Reddit, Digg, etc. .. My goal of FriendFeed was to be able to connect to people of like-mindedness on things I am interested in. Perhaps it's the people I'm subscribed to but even searches for things I'm interested in don't turn...
- Bartek Ciszkowski
(Continued comment) .. up very intriguing results. I've participated in one or two memes because I was bored but the FriendFeed problem is the same as any social-based network: You have your star players, they get all the attention, they post most of the links, and it becomes centered around them. It's too much effort to block/unsubscribe and filter it all out so now I'm stuck thinking how I can make FriendFeed useful for me.
- Bartek Ciszkowski
I know how you feel.. I can post a link and it'll get ignored. Someone else with a higher profile will post the same thing and it'll generate a load of activity. This is a central problem I notice across the net - it's billed as the great equaliser but it isn't, people don't have a fair shout because of human nature and its tendancy to coaless around "prominent personalities" and cliquish behaviours. I doubt this is a "problem" that can be fixed by technology as it sits much deeper.
- alphaxion
@alphaxion I've had that happen a few times. At first I was kinda miffed that I'd posted something topical and relevant and got no response, and then someone else had posted the same link a couple of hours later and got 30-40 comments. Still, I still post stuff I find interesting, and that I hope others will too. If we don't post links, because we think that it will always only be the high-profilers ones that get read, then it WILL always only be theirs that get read!
- Ian May
Kyle, you said "I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community." The problem is when a bunch of people participate in every meme: those people stop functioning productively in the tech community. P.S. I'm glad my month-long curmudgeonry about MemeFeed has finally gotten mainstream!
- Mark Trapp
There's something productive about the contributions of the tech community? News to me - a thousand people going "ZOMG Google Chrome!!!" and "Dude check out my iPhone!" strike me as being about as useful as lolcats but less interesting.
- Eric P
There's a tech community on FriendFeed? Where? I see a lot of talk about Web 2.0 sites and using webapps, but very very little about tech.
- Jason Carreira
@Mark What is a productive tech community?
- Kyle Lacy
@ian I know, I have the same philosophy with everything - I post to my site even though no-one goes to it, I produce podcasts that no-one will see nor hear. I don't care about any lack of traffic, I do it cause I want to. If someone else picks up on it, ok. If I change one persons opinion, fantasic job done. @jason we are there, it's just we don't have many subscribers to hear it ;)
- alphaxion
It was just Sunday night - everyone is more relaxed over the weekend.
- Jesse Stay
Agreed to a certain point. (I still like having fun with you all.) I will do my best to be more informative instead of entertaining. I will go for being 80% informative and 20% entertaining/fun. I don't want to treat FriendFeed like a Face Book or MySpace application or see it become one. I originally came to FF to follow some of the greatest tech minds ever and learn from them. I’m not apologizing for following the meme’s, but I will cut back from some of them.
- David Cook
at this point, for most people (ie not tech bloggers who have a vested interest in staying on the cutting edge) fun and cutting up has more value than more information. I lost interest in friendfeed when it was the opposite -- when all my FOAFs became saturated with attention whores whoring after the attention of my early adopter friends with floods of links and already beaten-to-death analysis of the latest tech news quantum. I'm not including L.G. in this, but -- I'll take thedesktops and picture memes.
- Jeremy Raines
I still find it to be pretty useful. I don't check it everyday mostly because it requires more time to dig through everything and involve myself in some discussions that interest me. Yes there is a lot of noise but that unless your FOF is completely unmanageable there you can often find some great stuff buried in all that noise.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
The problem I'm seeing is that people spend more and more of their time on the silly memes - which I suspect leaves little or no time to read worthy articles that are shared (often by less-popular users), and certainly almost no time to comment on them, especially considering how quickly they get buried by the meme entries. FF will need to overcome this.
- Aviv
The past 2-3 weeks have seen a huge upsurge in FF photo traffic, which is a direct result of the new photo feature being so easy to use now after the recent FF beta went into production (some of us were aware of how to use mail2ff app (which I think FF later acquired). So, I was expecting this increase; however, it certainly went viral when all these "meme" photos popped up. Early on, I suggested a MEME Room to contain all the madness so folks could manage their preferences to opt in/out. Cont'd.......
- Susan Beebe
Cont'd....... Also, I think we're seeing a genuine interest in folks getting to know each other better. This generated the whole photos idea, which seems to have cemented new online friendships and opened the door to a plethora of new "memes" thereafter. I still think we need a "meme room" to filter in/out this new content type. In the end, this all may be just a short-lived trend.
- Susan Beebe
as for the "silly meme" trend on ff, i don't mind them but haven't really participated much (i have very little time) - i have created a specialty list called "high volume" that gets most of these out of my primary feed/lists, it has cut down the noise but i still can go scan through them when time allows - works for me...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Gang, is FriendFeed specifically geared towards tech, or was it simply the early adopters that found and spread the concept of "life streaming"?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
If Newsgrange doesn't like what the people they follow are posting, they can simply change who they follow. To whine about this is a total waste of their time! Talk about ironic and not having a clue.
- Dread Pirate PJ
I think FriendFeed is becoming more than just a place for tech. Depending on the people you subscribe to, you could have a nature feed, you could have a geeky feed, you could have a tech feed and so on. I think FriendFeed is able to grow along with the diverse users. FriendFeed has the power to become a strong and powerful resource for anyone. Period. Regardless of anything, literally.
- Amir
Cafferty noted, “I’m 65 and have been covering politics as have you for a long time. that is one of the most pathetic pieces of tape I of ever seen for someone aspiring to one of the highest offices in this country.”
- Alejandro
i saw this live earlier. i used to think jack had the personality of a rock when he was here doing local tv in nyc, but he's really become quite the opinionated bloke. this made me laugh
- Cee Bee
Scary!!! Palin will self destruct next week when she debates Biden. I'm afraid it will be a train wreck.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm not being snarky: I didn't understand Palin at all. These Couric tapes keep getting worse.
- Ayşe E.
I have no idea what she said and tried to listen a few times.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Honestly, I believe we're going to see a clash of the titans at the VP debate. Ignorance vs Stupidity. Palin = Ignorance. Biden = Stupidity. Palin doesn't know any better so you're going to see what you get, and Biden seems to know better, but just says the dumbest things at times. It may rip a hole in the space-time continuum when its all said and done.
- Bwana ☠
What question exactly was Palin answering? She sounds programmed to say the same thing over and over. "What are your thoughts about N. Korea's nuclear program?" "Well, it's about healthcare, and reducing spending and taxes..."
- Hutch Carpenter
Yeah, can't wait for that debate. Man, was that clip tough to get through.
- J. McConnell
@Hutch Carpenter, I believe she was answering the "Issues" question. Her other answer is for the "Family" question. Those are the two "questions" she has prepared for ;)
- J. McConnell
But you know what, Bush has actually sounded worse than this. LOL
- Bwana ☠
Rahsheen - that's true. Cafferty is mad as hell, and he's not gonna take it anymore!
- Hutch Carpenter
i don't like jack cafferty, but damn...he looked ready to bite the head off a pitbull with lipstick.
- Admiral Anika
Wow, he slammed her. With every passing second, I keep thinking that her being booted off the ticket isn't that crazy after all.
- Shawn Farner
You could actually look in her eyes and see her panic as she lost control of the question, tried to recover it with the party platform, and stammer as she realized none of it made any sense in context.
- Bryan
"Among likely voters, Obama now leads McCain by 52 percent to 43 percent. Two weeks ago, in the days immediately following the Republican National Convention, the race was essentially even, with McCain at 49 percent and Obama at 47 percent. "
- newsjunk.com
Still lots of time to shake this thing up :) No worries.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
I think that the Republican convention should go down in history as the "Dumb Moose Convention"
- Paul Denlinger
Just as long as the Democratic convention goes down as the "New Car Salesman" convention.
- ComicList
Wow. "Dumb Moose Convention" - is that really the level of discourse left for so many folks about this stuff?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Does "Smart Moose Convention" make you feel better? What level of discourse do you want about people who have destroyed the US from the inside? What level of discourse do they deserve? What's your suggestion? At times like this you worry about level of discourse? You've really got your priorities right...
- Paul Denlinger
The "conservatives" from Conservative Oasis (Neoconservative Ghetto) have a proven pattern of reducing every political discussion to the most shallow level possible. (Since they rigidly censor opposing views in their own group, perhaps they should be systematically excluded from disrupting other groups.) The main cause of the current financial crisis is the culture of deregulation which...
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- Sean McBride
Who is most responsible for the financial meltdown? I haven't got this all sorted out yet, but these are some key names that seem to be coming into focus in all the accusations and counter-accusations: Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve, Goldman Sachs, John McCain, Milton Friedman, Phil Gramm, Republican Party, Wall Street. Chief culprit: deregulation. It's like the Republicans forgot that the Great Depression ever happened.
- Sean McBride
The Wall Street Journal, like George Will, is turning on John McCain: http://tinyurl.com/4r4pcy "Topic A should be deregulation. Financial institutions are dropping everywhere after playing with poorly regulated financial instruments; the last investment banks standing are begging the government for stricter oversight; and some of our nation's leading champions of laissez faire have...
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- Sean McBride
The single biggest culprit from many accounts: Milton Friedman. He provided the holy writ for the train wreck. He is also a neoconservative icon.
- Sean McBride
The Wall Street Journal: "It's Judgment Day for John McCain": http://tinyurl.com/4r4pcy "Last week, Republican presidential candidate John McCain called for a commission to "find out what went wrong" on Wall Street. It was an excellent suggestion: Public inquiries into Wall Street practices served the country well in the 1930s. And Mr. McCain has a special advantage to bring to any such...
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- Sean McBride
An estimated 500 million images are captured every day, but less than 5 percent end up on major photo sharing sites. Uploading photos is not the easiest task and most photos are locked into a specific photo sharing service and have all rights reserved licenses. Jean-Marie Hullot, wants to liberate photos from silos and offer news ways to organize and discover images.
- Hayk H.
from Bookmarklet
Jay: the thing we talked about is how he'll use technology to change the music business next year. So, this IS on topic.
- Robert Scoble
The guy from the group who gave us the song, "Shut up, shut up". WHAT AN INNOVATOR.
- Shawn Farner
can you elaborate more on your conversation?
- Marcos Marado
The downside to his name is that every person I know by the name Will has .i.am as their annoying Facebook status!
- Joe Dawson
The guys a living legend no doubt about it. I'm impressed he attended.
- Zee.
Marcos: we talked about where the music industry is going in a post piracy world. He says that he's going to respond by making music experiences that morph over time and get fans to reengage with the band over time, to get new versions of the songs (and to participate in creating new versions). He also has interesting thoughts on how music goes viral. He designed the Obama video too to be like a "baton." One that gets passed from person to person to take advantage of how people on social media sites work
- Robert Scoble
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... The Black Eyed Peas is an American hip hop group from Los Angeles. The group is currently composed of will.i.am, apl.de.ap, Taboo and Fergie. Since their breakout album Elephunk in 2003, they have seen international fame for their pop/dance-oriented style of hip hop music. Black Eyed Peas have sold an estimated twenty-seven million albums and singles worldwide
- jfayel
Maybe the future of music is more people, ... every people, playing and/or singing it... not just "watching" it... This is the old roots of music, isn't it? When mmusic was not commercial... Maybe future is back to old good roots... maybe...
- jfayel
Interesting that I first learned about this group from an Apple iPod advertisement. We talked about that, too. That launched them big time, he told me.
- Robert Scoble
will.i.am is great when it comes to the music business... just keep him off the topic of politics - mashable.com/2008/02/06/will-i-am-podcast/
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I think it would be a great time for him and Jakob Dylan to make another inspiring viral Obama music video. Any plans for that?:-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Skype recently celebrated its fifth birthday which caused users to reflect on the recent changes that have taken place with the VoIP service. A recent surge in activity and a new unlimited international calling plan are things that bode well for the business. However, there remain a lot of complaints about Skype including problems with the changes made in the beta version of Skype 4 and frustration that SkypeCasts have just been dropped from the service. These concerns have many people wondering whether Skype will be able to regain the innovative edge that made it a leading product when it was first released or if number five is the last birthday that the business will be celebrating.
- Leo Laporte
We already trail countries like China and Japan in terms of math and science, so by all means, let's teach creationism and fall even further behind. I don't put my politics in your religion, so please keep your religion out of my politics. There have always been private schools for including religious instruction, and I oughta know, since I did 12 years of it.
- Cyndy
I also believe in the Constitution, which says "separation of church and state"... i.e. don't teach your religion in public schools... which she wants to do.
- Jason Carreira
@l0ckergn0me it only counts if you're nominated for national office ;)
- Jason Carreira
I have no problem at all with Christians in the White House. None. I just don't want anti-science luddites in office any more. We just finished with 8 years of one and I'd rather not have another 8. If we keep it up we will completely destroy our education system in this country and become the (fictional) Kazakhstan of the Americas...
- Tad
this makes me more proud that i made my first *ever* political contribution to the Obama campaign. yes, we can believe in *both* but i rather pick the ticket that shares my worldview. and in my worldview, science and philosophy trump policies which are not based on evidence and critical thinking.
- ~C4Chaos
Me too, donate keep the momentum going, we need a chance and with McCain there is no chance for us.
- tom sparks
look I am a Christian so I don't knock her on that, but I will be making my donation today as well and larger than usual because time is running out and we can't risk four more years.
- R. Ferguson
Our educational system is already failing because schools are not free to teach. they spend more time preparing to pass various standardized tests then actually teaching. Politics plays a big influence on schools and our kids are paying the price. Between hot button issues like teaching in the native language of the student, ELL, ESL, SEI, etc. among other things. Schools are for...
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- Jason Shultz
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Christian does not equal creationist. I don't find willful ignorance in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence a desirable characteristic in a world leader, personally.
- stretta
from twhirl
I agree with that too Jason. Throwing out science education would make things much, much worse.
- Tad
@Matthew I just don't understand why a person can't believe in both. I'm not saying it should be taught in schools. I don't think schools should be teaching morality or religion anyway, that should be a parent's responsibility. Unfortunately, many parents would rather hang by their entrails then teach their kids anything. But, back to the point, saying your a christian but don't believe...
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- Jason Shultz
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Jason, there's a huge difference between that view and what most people think of as creationists. Creationists generally take a LITERAL view of the bible and wish to teach that in science classes to children in lieu of evolution. Some creationists don't believe in a literal view of the bible, but generally they don't believe in evolution. Plenty of Christians believe that God created the universe and helped guide life. That belief doesn't rule out the acceptance of evolution.
- Tad
interesting observations Jason. I will say I do not know enough about what creationism in the classrooms reflects. I don't have kids. Personally with my limited knowledge I don't mind it being taught as a possible theory along side science. yet I hear and understand religious leaders who would prefer it not be taught b/c too watered down.
- R. Ferguson
@Ruth creationism and any other religious-based belief is not a theory (in the scientific sense) because it cannot be proven false.
- Jason Carreira
@Tad I guess I take the latter view. My wife OTOH does not. I can believe in evolution and have no problem with it. My wife believes we were placed here. It makes for some heated arguments at times. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Just saw this on Wonkette: "Has anyone else noticed, BTW, that Palin is Governor of a state that’s younger than McCain?"
- Jason Carreira
Ruth... let me give you my perspective. I believe in a higher power. I'm married to an atheist. I give our kids my belief, while Jason gives them his. When they have questions about either, we send them to the appropriate parent to answer. When they are adults, they can choose what they believe for themselves. However, that's only in terms of religion. We both believe in science. :) Now, to teach creationism in school, you are obviously negating one other theory without offering that opposing viewpoint
- Cyndy
Now, in addition, depending on the view of creationism, it ranges anywhere from 7 days as we know them and man riding around on dinosaurs to a much less science-negating version that a higher power set things in motion that resulted in the Big Bang and evolution as we know it. Most people who identify themselves as creationists, however, tend toward the dino rodeo side of the equation. If your impressionable child decides to believe in THAT, then where do they end up as adults in the global marketplace?
- Cyndy
Jason thanks for the info. & I must check out wonkette
- R. Ferguson
Wow, there is a creationist out there that actually believes in creationism because it is the most plausible explanation? That shatters my illusion that creationists are simply people who believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, and attack evolution because they're afraid if science soundly invalidates something written in the Bible, their entire belief system collapses like a house of cards. Christianity isn't that fragile. If it can survive heliocentrism, it can survive evolution.
- stretta
from twhirl
So much for freedom of religion. Will you at least let them be carpenters like the Cagots or will you burn them at the stake? -- A Concerned Non-Creationist
- Ernie Oporto
How's that Ernie? I don't mind anyone practicing their religion as long as they don't try to enact laws to force it on other people. Creationists activists - those who wish to teach creationism in public schools as science, of which Palin apparently is, are such people. So, no I don't believe in the type of religious freedom that would grant creationists the right to indoctrinate my child in religious non-scientific puffery.
- Tad
Heh yeah Matthew. Christianity survived the death of its leader. I'm sure a little thing like evolution can't hurt it.
- Alex Scoble
Religious freedom is the ability to practice whatever religion you choose in the private place of your choosing. It is not the freedom to teach your religion in the classroom. When you try to enforce your beliefs on the rest of us in society, you are taking away our religious freedom. And that's the thing. We don't teach evolution because we BELIEVE it to be true. We teach it because we have found it, through over a century of examination of the facts, to be the BEST explanation for how we got here.
- Alex Scoble
Is god going to speak to them about their policies as well?
- orionstarr
The debate between creationism and evolution is one for a class on religion and/or philosophy and not one for a science class. There is no scientific basis on which to support creationism, therefore there's no way to present it in a scientific forum.
- Alex Scoble
I just donated $50 to the Paris Hilton campaign to keep a *real* celebrity out of the Whitehouse.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Schools should teach *Moral* and parents should attend that class!!!
- Alex Sauceda
@ruth ferguson are you nuts? you don't mind a made up 'theory' taught alongside science? so what about my theory of faries? or dragons? or green aliens?
- Ivan Pope
from twhirl
I always love it when folks bring up that silly argument. You do realize that the most populous religion in our country isn't the holy dragon church, right? I mean you at least have those two brain cells firing, right?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Science has nothing to do with the popularity of an idea...all ideas popular or not have to go through rigorous peer review process to be called a theory.
- Alex Scoble
@Mark The point Ivan is making is there is as much science in creationism as there is in fairies, dragons and green aliens.The fact that Christianity is a popular religion in America is irrelevant in the context of what should be taught in a public school science class.
- stretta
from twhirl
@Jason Schultz: Wherever religion makes claims about reality, it infringes on the domain of science. One can hold certain religious beliefs without them conflicting with known facts/evidence, but creationism is a world-view in conflict with science. It is demonstrably false, and should not be taught as true anywhere, let alone in a public school.
- Tanath
No, the point Ivan demonstrates by saying what he says is that he doesn't have the capacity to illustrate his point without sounding incredibly insensitive to those who call themselves Christian. It's ignorance and hypocrisy, particularly when it's in advocacy of "the party of sensitivity and compassion."
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Well, a person who believes in God is generally the kind of person I don't want anywhere near the White House. But I know I'll never see that in my lifetime. So best case, I want a person who can at least separate religion from politics and has a grip on reality. I'm genuinely shocked that McCain managed to pick someone even less tolerable than Romney in this regard.
- Eric P
You hit the nail on the head. Alcohol will completely derail you from a workout because of lack of energy. I always make myself 'earn' a night of boozing by working out first. It does mess with your recovery and will require massive amounts of water...but it's better than killing a day you had planned for exercise. You should seriously try Bikram Yoga for a month 2 days a week. Results will blow you away.
- Ryan
Kevin... did you cut out coffee? Were you a coffee drinker before?
- Veronica
Wow! That is pretty quick to lose 10 lbs. Have you ever tried wheatgrass shots? I just took one recently and it was energizing. I'll ping you the URL. Cheers!
- Frank Gruber
Me too. While exercising everyday on the Wii Fit!
- RaAusar Powers
I already don't drink. I've cut out a lot of carbs. Already take the multivitamins. Not sure where I will find time for that kind of exercise, though.
- ComicList
Wheatgrass juice is great but tastes awful on its own. I grew some years ago, but my manual wheatgrass juicer is currently gathering dust somewhere... Maybe I'll get back into it someday.
- Vincent X
Kevin, Leo Laporte is looking for you something about his Pounce account having too many followers thus not being able to get in
- Fred Grott
Veronica: umm coffee is ok, I have a cup a couple times a month. Just don't add sugar.
- Kevin Rose
I've been want to switch from coffee to green tea for a long time - you just gave me a reason. Great post Kevin.
- Orli Yakuel
yeah, sounds like great, sound advice, but way time intensive I hate to say.
- Steve Isaacs
Yeah I'm also doing the 100 pushups, no mid-week drinking & cardio. Raesons? Energy level helps, and just general well-being. yoga in the morning!
- anna sauce
But is that safe to do if the app should be running? Don't you risk data corruption? Don't you risk government corrup... ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
- l0ckergn0me
Sure, if you're force-quitting apps all the time, you risk data corruption, I wouldn't do it daily. Besides, the black helicopters can remotely make your brain explode if they want :)
- Bwana ☠
You think a developer will provide a memory mgt app.
- RaAusar Powers
Daynah <3 You know, I'm starting to share for YOU haha!
- Mona Nomura
I'm happy to have known all of these. ;)
- l0ckergn0me
Ok show-off! ...but then again, I would've been worried if you DIDN'T know :P
- Mona Nomura
Actually, if I was a show off, I'd write something like: "What a n00b. He didn't even include the obligatory 'hold down the period button in an email field to flesh out a '.com' with ease tip. Classic rookie mistake." What I'm interested in is finding out which iPhone tips your friends on FF have, Mona. :)
- l0ckergn0me
Design matters but functional design matters most. Presentation is nothing without function
- Brian Sullivan
In a classroom maybe. But in our world awash in entertainment... function counts for very little. Hell, strict function applied to social media and @chrisbrogan and friendz would have to get real jobs.
- Amanda Chapel
Amanda -- not sure what world you live in but it obviously is different from mine
- Brian Sullivan
I think design + function matter. You need design that conveys your brand or message on an emotional level, and you need good UI for it to achieve the desired results. I have a personal preference for aesthetically pleasing and imaginative, too, and I'm sure many people would feel that way. To be most effective, it should resonate with the target audience.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Design should not be divorced from function - they go hand in hand, usability is key. It is a mistake to think of design as decoration.
- felix
felix: I strongly agree. You can't separate out 'design' from the experience, and the experience is well, the experience of the product. Users don't get anything else, so it had better be good.
- Robin Barooah
Right on! Elegant design means that something looks good but most importantly that it works well: straightforward function trumps most "beauty" in designs that last.
- David Muir
Not to sound like a fanboy, but I don't get how the author essentially sides with design to back up function, and then criticizes the Office team, which risked adoption in order to improve design and therefore function.
- Mohit