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How to Make Calzones (And Freeze Them for Later!)
How to Make Calzones (And Freeze Them for Later!)
"Calzones are a favorite in my house, not only for a relaxed weekend dinner but also for wrapping up, freezing, and eating for lunches all week long. Lunch or dinner, they're the perfect little "hot pockets" (ahem!) of cheese, veggies, and leftover meat. Here's how to make them." - Derrick from Bookmarklet
I just read this. SO HUNGRY. - holly #ravingfangirl
I've never made them, but now I'm all curious. - Derrick
Homemade hot pockets sound Awesome. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I've had a real hot pocket exactly once. I bought it out of a vending machine and it made me sick. I hope to have better luck with these homemade ones. - Derrick
I wonder what kinds of cheese work best. - Rachel Walden
I had to live off of the broccoli, cheese and chicken Hot Pockets for a time because I worked nights (6p to 11p and then 3a to 8a, back to back; it was Hell) and I had time and budget constraints. Those were the only truly palatable ones. I had Pop Tarts, too, and a few other things, but the food all had to be very fast and simple. My life sucked. But that particular flavor of Hot Pocket wasn't too bad. (The chicken could have been less like lunchmeat and more like actual pieces of meat, but, oh, well.) - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Everyone please to wish Rachel a very happy birthday!
Happy happy, Rachel! And keep up the good fight. - laura x from iPhone
Happy birthday, Rachel! - Betsy
Happy birthday :) - Pete : Team Marina
Happy birthday, Rachel! - RepoRat
Many happy returns! - Megan loves summer
Happy birthday! - Catherine Pellegrino
Happy Birthday! - Katy S from iPhone
Happy bday! - Joe
Hope it's a good one! - Stephen Francoeur
A very happy birthday to you Rachel! - Galadriel C.
Happy Birthday Rachel!! - Hedgehog
bonne fête, ma belle! - jambina
Happy birthday! - Jen
A belated but very enthusiastic thank you! - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
Do we have any Kansas City Public Library folks on here?
Kansas or Missouri? The KC Kansas public library is in my region and I have contact info for folks there, but not so much for the Missouri side. - WebGoddess
It's Kansas City, MO. We had a few book donations turn up with their barcode on them that aren't clearly (to me) withdrawn, so I wanted to try to check on them. - Rachel Walden
Yeah - good luck - I have nothing more than what you'd find on their website. Hopefully someone from the library will be here, though! - WebGoddess
They've got live chat help on their website, but it's QuestionPoint, so I don't know if you'd get someone actually from that library or not. - Catherine Pellegrino
Ok, thanks anyway though! - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
I know a medlib who is taking a Coursera on data science right now and is enjoying it a lot. She'd like to talk to someone who does data science work, and I know there are some of you here, but my mind is completely blank. Help? Anyone willing to be put in touch w a good egg?
@DainaBouquin & @l_zilinski were both in my IRDL cohort & were awesomesauce. Daina's more medical, Lisa more academic. And yeah, @hedgielib. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Sure point her my way. Also @KristinBriney, Dorothea, Amy West at Milwaukee, and I've some other people on Twitter from RDAP if that'd help. - Hedgehog
Depends on what you mean by data science. If it's analytics or visualization, I can't help you. If it's management and preservation of data, I can. - RepoRat
Thanks all! - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
YOU GUYS. What was the name of the guy who would always post complaints to email lists about, uh, (afraid of summoning...) a public library in a city in Massachusetts? Something reminded me but I can't find it and now it's bothering me.
Don Saklad? - LB: Unable to Can from Android
Don it is, the one and only. - Walt Crawford
The scariest thing? I didn't even have to Google to recall his name, just to find a link to share. - LB: Unable to Can from Android
Thank you. That's exactly who I was thinking of. - Rachel Walden
omg ... i know that guy! he also tips into glbt* groups to remind us all to have safer sex. - henry
Rachel Walden
Requesting IT to unblock an LGBT news not make me unleash Friday hell, people.
*cowers* - MoTO: Team Marina
I once had to write to our IT folks to unblock FriendFeed. Turns out, it was right after the auto-timeline moving was added, and the spam-protecting bots thought it was malicious software. - lris
Don't make me have to come down there and box the IT department's ears. Here's hoping it's something innocuous. - laura x
It took until today but they've unblocked it now. - Rachel Walden
*whew* ... Is Friday hell anything like fresh hell? - MoTO: Team Marina
Friday hell is just like fresh hell except worse because why are you messing up my Friday I mean I'm prepared for nonsense on Monday... ;) - Rachel Walden
Steele Lawman
My 12-year-old son seems to be coming across YouTube videos filled with misinformation about feminism. I don't want to raise another aggrieved privileged white boy, so any recommendations for videos, channels, sites that are pro-feminist and boy-friendly?
*father of 11yo boy tunes in* - Stephen Francoeur
Recommending this with some reservations because of a recent poorly-considered and poorly-handled site merger, but: - RepoRat
this post is probably too "on point" to be of interest, but it made me feel better than I had in ages about video game sites, and eurogamer, in particular: - Marianne
I wish it were A LOT EASIER to answer this question! - Marianne
I'm planning on having my 14 yo kid look at when he gets back from his week away at camp. - Joe
Crap, all I can think of is Target Women: But I don't know if that's too adult or (even worse) too boring for 12 year-olds. - Meg VMeg
Scraping my tumblr I'd recommend this: and this: and this: and maybe this: - MoTO: Team Marina
I wonder if John Scalzi's "lowest difficulty setting" post would be too preachy for a 12yo? - Catherine Pellegrino
Thanks, everyone! I have a lot of watching/reading to do. (And thanks, Catherine, because I knew that I'd read that analogy before but didn't know where. The analogy might resonate for him, even if Scalzi's delivery might not.) - Steele Lawman
Interesting article, Marianne! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Yes, the Brain Scoop! that's what I was trying to remember, e.g., - maʀtha
(You're welcome, Steve! I thought the analogy might communicate well. And honestly, depending on how you feel about salty language, a LOT of what Scalzi writes might be good for him to hear.) - Catherine Pellegrino
this is just a list of facts, related to that post, but they are IMPORTANT facts: I found when people eyeroll at the analogy, some solid facts from solid sources are a good way to make them rethink. especially if they've been getting a lot of misinformation. - Marianne
on a related topic, when the time comes, you know about Scarleteen, right? - maʀtha
Feminist high school boys ask: Are you a feminist? (perhaps a little dry, but, relevant) - maʀtha
and what about some anime? Spirited Away, perhaps? - maʀtha
Might be something useful toward the bottom of - RepoRat
What sort of misinformation is he encountering? I am just curious. - laura x
and are you able to discuss it with him? or is he too sulky teen for that? - maʀtha
He brings it up, so it's something he's interested in and apparently he wants to talk about it. By "misinformation," I mean the notion that feminists think that women are better than men, or that violence against men is funny. I think he's also encountering the "not all men" point of view that feels unfairly targeted. - Steele Lawman
It's going to be hard to find a lot of video channels, because YouTube is one of the most hostile places to women posting feminist content. Will think on it and recommend if something comes up. - Rachel Walden
The "Tropes vs Women in Video Games" series? (I haven't actually watched very much of it so no idea if it's suitable for him or not but came to mind when Rachel mentioned YouTube as a hostile place for women...) - Deborah Fitchett
Adventure Time - who's main character ages each season and is now 15 - deals with the emotional life of a teenage boy in a remarkable way (caveat: not having been a teenage boy, this opinion is just a hunch) and the Vlogbrothers channel is great too, although the advice is usually the same: "use your words": an example: Why I love makeup: - copystar
Jim Hines's cover-pose series is a great way to talk about representation, while also getting across the idea that men can be feminists: - RepoRat
I definitely do not think of Adventure Time as explicitly feminist or educational about feminism. Vlogbrothers can occasionally get the point, but it would be nice if we could come up with some recommendations of actual women for him to listen to. Most of the feminism 101 materials I'm familiar with are going to be too advanced for him at this age, as are most of the books I would... more... - Rachel Walden
I didn't mean to suggest that Vlogbrothers or Adventure Time were explicitly feminist. But I think that they are "boy-friendly" media where relationship matters are addressed in a serious way that I think most feminists would respond positively to. - copystar
Read this before you recommend it to Mr. 12, because there's some pretty intense stuff in it, but maybe Strong Female Protagonist - RepoRat
Policy question: Do any of you have wording in a policy or two about indemnification? Basically, if the staff member follows the policy, they won't be punished for the outcome? If so, could you shoot me that wording either here or at ijastram at gmail?
More information: we're developing an emergency plan that asks staff at all levels to make decisions during stressful situations, and we'd like something in there about how they won't get in trouble for acting according to the plan just for everyone's peace of mind. Are there policies that require decision making at your institutions that build in protections for the people making the decisions? Or do you have other policies that say "you can only question the outcome of the process if you think the process wasn't followed?" - lris
I think I see what you're getting at, and I think it would be a laudable thing to include in a policy of this sort; I just don't have any examples to hand. - Catherine Pellegrino
Yeah, the key here is that we're trying to encourage staff at all levels to make stressful decisions based on a framework for action. No two emergencies are alike, so we can't spell out what to do in every situation, so as part of helping people feel empowered to act rather than hesitate, we want those who aren't used to making this kind of decision feel extra super safe in doing so. - lris
We don't have such language but if I were constructing such a thing I might call our campus Public Safety office or Office of Risk Mgmt to ask what phrasing they would suggest. - Marie
Seconding the advice to talk to Risk Management or Legal. I think what you want is something like the Good Samaritan laws that cover emergency responders, for example. - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
I got my "if nothing else today, this" item done. And then someone broke the glass in the front door of the library.
Wow. You really know how to punctuate an exit from a building. - lris
LOL it wasn't me I swear! Amazingly, nobody seems to have seen or heard anything. - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
All I know is I have "Harry Potter meeting" on my calendar for this afternoon. :)
Use a time turner to go back to figure out why it was scheduled. - Joe
I will be sure to use expecto patronum to keep dementors out of the meeting. - Rachel Walden
Accio agenda! - copystar
let me know if you need ideas for stuff to do in your library along with the exhibit - maʀtha
Martha, I absolutely need ideas! That's what yesterday turned out to be - planning meeting. I'd be really grateful for any thoughts you want to share. - Rachel Walden
Are you familiar with the good people of the Harry Potter Alliance? I'm wearing my Granger Lovegood 2016 tee right now - copystar
I have a ton, because we really leveraged the exhibit to do a lot of stuff. - maʀtha
excellent! - Rachel Walden
Patricia F. Anderson
RT @KingCiDot: Here is a graphic that breaks down signs of an abusive relationship. Please read it.
Let me point out a version of these signs can absolutely take place in abusive workplaces, too, with very minimal adjustment of the language. - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
Anybody have suggestions on tools/software for allowing library users to make reservations and see availability online? Wanting something to use for a special room and also day-long check-out iPads. Thanks!
We are looking at OpenRoom: Is anyone using that? - Rebecca Hedreen
We use MRBS for self-booking. University of Washington uses it, too. - kaijsa
We use OpenRoom at Baruch College. Here's an article about it at Virginia Commonwealth U. - Stephen Francoeur
I like to look and functions of this one at UNC Charlotte - Stephen Francoeur
We also use MRBS. - Deborah Fitchett
thanks! - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
Have any of you all written anything about changes to PLOS's institutional membership charges?
nope. hadn't heard, actually. link me up? - RepoRat
Oh, that's awfully disappointing. :-( - Deborah Fitchett
Oh..this is not good news. Sending notes to people now. - Hedgehog
well, shit. - jambina
I'm going to guess "not enough uptake from libraries to bother." Sigh. - RepoRat
How many no-fee Gold OA journals could Vanderbilt publish for $122K/year? Never mind; PLOS is a Verified Good Guy, so I shouldn't ask questions like that. - Walt Crawford
They're a Verified Good Guy who I'm pretty sure nevertheless could survive quite happily if they lowered their fees. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah: The last chapter of my Library Tech. Reports on Big Deal Damages (out any day now) has as one possible "solution," after "Transparent Prices," "Transparent Costs." I'd love to see such transparency happen during my lifetime...but that only allows about 30 years. - Walt Crawford
Another way of saying: "quite happily" may depend on personnel pay levels and perks, but otherwise I'm inclined to believe you're right. - Walt Crawford
ooh, Transparent Costs! sounds lovely! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
As I say in the report (not remotely in these words!), it's mostly a dream...whereas with FOI, transparent prices should be reasonably achievable. (On the other hand, some OA startups devoted to fair pricing--and maybe with university backing--*could* establish some actual costs...) - Walt Crawford
So the point is that there was never actually a discount. Libraries paid a 'membership fee' which covered the discount to institutional authors. This was just getting silly because there was a huge administrative overhead on both institution and PLOS on managing a zero sum system. So now if an institution wants either direct billing or to pay into a fund both those things are available.... more... - Cameron Neylon
..speaking as the person who took the decision to sunset the old program. More than happy to talk to anyone about this but we did it to simplify things and reduce overall costs in the system. - Cameron Neylon
I was gonna say that I'm pretty sure jh has been moving toward dropping all memberships and putting the money into a fund you have to apply for but that will pay full - Christina Pikas from iPhone
With author-fee funds dying like flies... yeah, I admit I'm concerned. But I do see the reasoning. - RepoRat
Christina, who's in charge of administering the fund and evaluating the applications? Researchers/faculty? Or librarians/administrators? Also, where does the money sit? Library budget? University/departmental budget? - Meg VMeg
Part of the issues was exactly that it didn't seem we were helping with author fee funds. The way it worked was we'd estimate volume, assess a membership fee of 10% of the expected costs, then find the volume was a bit higher than expected then have to assess a bigger fee the following year, on top of the volume increase so there was sticker shock - and the amounts were rising to levels... more... - Cameron Neylon
What has happened is that we have fewer US institutions using the new tools but a lot more UK and European ones. Certainly we're seeing a lot more UK/EU institutions establishing funds, less clear on how many US ones are dropping them. - Cameron Neylon
Yeah, that figures. I don't have hard numbers on the US either -- it may be a wash, because other funds are being established even as older ones die. - RepoRat
@Meg - it's out of the libraries budget, administered by the library, and there are some requirements - drat, they deleted the online guide since they ran out of money this year and the new year money doesn't start until July 1. Basically 1 publication per author, author has to state that they can't pay the fees out of a grant or other source, a copy has to be archived in the IR... I can't remember what else. - Christina Pikas
Whatever PLoS's reasoning is is fine for them, we're just not going to take on the costs or local administration of a fund of that type. (Note that this was not my decision to make on our end, so I will not be engaging in conversation about whether we should or not) - Rachel Walden
*nodnod* At MfPOW it was a lot easier to sell a membership than a fund. It fits into existing green-eyeshade categories and it's a lot less hassle internally. That's not to say it was a piece of cake -- I had to do the homework on how many authors and articles we were talking about -- but I'm pretty sure MfPOW still has some OA memberships, while the author-fee fund is deader than Generalissimo Francisco Franco. - RepoRat
... maybe all this is my next LJ column. I need an idea for it anyway. - RepoRat
There's definitely a wider discussion to have about where it is best to administer different kinds of system. I can buy that it's easier to subsidise by putting a smaller amount of money into a third party place. The catch is two fold - there's an administrative burden which to my mind is very inefficient on our side (the intricate variety of what different institutions want is... more... - Cameron Neylon
All that said, if there's real demand for a deposit account that gets use to provide institution marginal discounts then we could look at that again. But at the moment we've got much more demand for systems where the eligibility varies author to author based on their funding sources within an institution. - Cameron Neylon
You'd enjoy my summer lectures, Cameron. I spend a LOT of time hammering on the chooser-isn't-payer market dysfunction. :) - RepoRat
the thing with memberships, imo, was that a chunk of money would go to 10% or 20% discounts... when it was like not that for, say, $1000 they couldn't pay the apc but for $800 or $900 they could. It was like they either could or couldn't. library may want to endorse oa, but instead, they're endorsing one publisher and their offerings. and really, biomed vs all other fields of endeavor.... more... - Christina Pikas
@Meg here's how ours is handled if that's useful - Hedgehog
Somebody needs to ask, "Now that we know you think that it's on to tell jokes with the word 'slut' in them on stage at a national conference, what other kinds of jokes so you think are appropriate in that setting?"
Also, I'm now wondering, when was the last time a male professional comedian used that word in his routine? Because Stephen might actually have been unprofessional in TWO professions. - DJF from Android
He also thinks it's funny to make racist jokes about people's last names, as of last year when my co-worker walked out of his presentation. - lris
Folks. Any one think this is NEW behaviour? This is a Donald Sterling Situation. Many I think knew he was like this, it was just done with someone willing to share it. - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
Iris, he WHAT??? Oh my god! - DJF from Android
Oh, I don't think this is new at all. One of my first impressions of him was from sitting in the audience while he put up a picture of his daughter in a bustier. Nobody laughed. He was disappointed in us. - lris
And that's when he doesn't have a few drinks in him.... - Mary Carmen
I've heard stories about inappropriate behaviour at conference adjacent social events, but never on stage. I have long judged him for the things I already knew about. - DJF from Android
Both of my examples were on stage, DJF. - lris
Iris, I understand. I meant that I've never seen him behave like that on stage before. But then I mostly avoid his talks because they're either out of date or vendor pitches disguised as keynotes. - DJF from Android
I think Mo nailed it. The only real surprise here is that there are still organizations that feel comfortable having Abram as their public face. - Steele Lawman
I'm not surprised. Until people complain then probably they either a) don't know or b) think that no-one cares. That's why everyone (by which I mean primarily people who aren't directly targeted/affected) need to speak up early and often to make them know that we do care. (And maybe doing this will prevent the idea cementing in speakers' own heads that doing these things is okay.) Silence is complicity. - Deborah Fitchett
I am seeing on Facebook that there are people for whom this is all news. - DJF from Android
The online librarian world is a still a microcosm. Just because the news travels around the world fast doesn't mean it hits all the spots between hops. - Andy
I'll probably get yelled at for taking this to Tangentville, but one of the things that bothers me is the unprofessional behavior in calling SA out on, well, unprofessional behavior. It's not like the inappropriate actions of one party gives a free pass to everyone else in commenting, remarking, and otherwise reacting to the transgression. (This is from shit I've seen on Twitter in... more... - Andy
I'm with you on the grand moral scale, Andy, but on the scale where Abram wields more power and influence than most of us combined--well, sometimes power and privilege can only be attacked via unprofessional means. - laura x from iPhone
I'm hemming and hawing at that, Laura, but I see your point. My question then becomes whether giving up the moral high ground is the best course of action. I don't see what slinging mud gets you except just as dirty. It shifts from a moment of responding to unprofessionalism with professionalism to just a bandwagon beatdown. - Andy
I must be missing the really cool tweets. I see a fair amount of anger and disappointment, a little mild snarkiness, and maybe a sense that SA has been High Keynoter of Librarianship a bit too long. I haven't seen behavior that struck me as inappropriate *on a social network.* - Walt Crawford
And, frankly, "bandwagon beatdown" is starting to sound to me like an implicit defense for the offense and for SA: Without the "bandwagon" it just goes away. As has been happening for decades (not specifically him). I think more people saying "No, this was wrong, and the apology was worse" is essential. - Walt Crawford
"Sometimes the best you can hope for is to make the sons of bitches look bad." - Meg VMeg
Walt: the 'beatdown bandwagon' is part of my question about the benefits of abandoning the moral high ground. It's the difference between a group of people stepping up to say "this behavior is unacceptable and we are going to take steps to insure that it doesn't happen again in the future by insisting on better choices" versus "this behavior is unacceptable and we are going to take steps to insure that it doesn't happen again in the future by beating the shit out the offender as a public spectacle". - Andy
If people are using language about him like the language that he used, that's not so cool (and yet it's also not as bad, because *he used it as a powerful speaker in front of heaps of people*). If people are making substantive threats, that's really not cool and also a police matter. But if people are merely (as I've seen) saying vocally and maybe sometimes angrily that what he said was... more... - Deborah Fitchett
Shorter me: I need specific examples or at least description in order to read your comment as anything other than a tone argument. - Deborah Fitchett
I found them as part of a Twitter search for "abram" earlier this afternoon. For the most part, the reactions I've seen have been in the latter category that Deborah describes. I don't have any problems with that. But there are ones that fit into that first category. - Andy
I've seen some swearing, which I'm not entirely comfortable with. And I admit I have wondered today at what point the big pile on becomes harassing in itself. I think it is a valid question. - maʀtha
I also still think the initial comment was absolutely unacceptable and that the apology is lame & ineffective, that he doesn't really accept responsibility for his behavior. So, yeah. - maʀtha
+++martha - Andy
Well, I don't know about all the plus signs :) I'm still pissed off and I totally understand other people being pissed off. - maʀtha
It's agreement. :) - Andy
Interesting. I tried an "abram" search and found myself drowning in references to somebody's son AbRam and other stuff. Other than "Satan Librarian," still didn't find anything inappropriate re SA. - Walt Crawford
I suspect that, for some of us who've been around for a while, the possibility that SA's apparent Teflon coating may be wearing thin is too good to pass up. Which may not be moral high ground, but hey, most of us are just people. - Walt Crawford
Walt: So, are you saying "I didn't see it, therefore it did not happen"? As someone who by their own admission does not give me the benefit of the doubt, I'm curious as to the motivations for your nitpicking. I'm feeling that if someone else in this group had said it, you would be taking them at their word. - Andy from Android
Maybe I am, and maybe that's unfair. If a few people have gotten "inappropriate" in criticizing SA, that may (OR MAY NOT) be unfortunate--but not too surprising at this point. And I do know that Twitter moves too fast to do anything like comprehensive look-backs. Sorry. - Walt Crawford
I appreciate it. I'm not trying to defend SA; I'm just looking at a particular subset of the reactions that I find distasteful. I will concede that they are a minority of the tweets, that I don't fall into a tone de-rail, and that what matters here is what happens in the future. - Andy
Unfortunately, I can place a bet on what will happen in the future (by 2015): SA will continue to be in Hot Demand as a speaker (and probably on every CI/IL program) because he does such awesome PPTs. Once you're on top, it's remarkably difficult to be unseated. - Walt Crawford
Is he going to be in Vegas later this month? - Julian
Walt, which is why the high visibility "pile on" is important. It makes it more difficult for people to claim they didn't know about this behaviour. - DJF from Android
*nod* - maʀtha
Walt, under most circumstances, I'd agree with you on this. In the 21st century, i do have my concerns that the gossip rounds going to a (sort of) international audience, with various degrees of interpretations and extrapolations has some broader implications than you are admitting to. It doesn't really pass Kant's universality test (to me), for instance. That's a broad philosophical... more... - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Note that I'm all for the "pile on"--it's the best chance of seeing some lasting change. - Walt Crawford
Ohhhh Walt, I'd like to see some causal connection to that last statement. As a counterfactual, I suggest Eric Montpetit's "Misplaced Mistrust" and Baumgartner and Jones "Politics of Attention" that suggests pile ons can and do lead to some disastrous policy effects in the long run. - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
1. Can't offer causals. 2. It may depend on the "pile on." For many people, some with their own high standing, to point out the error of SA's ways seems likely to have more lasting effect than for everybody to say "ho hum, it's been two days and a couple people were distasteful, let's move on." Note that I've been scare-quoting "pile on." What I hope for is widespread recognition that this stuff was bullshit 35 years ago and it's even worse bullshit now. - Walt Crawford
(Pardon the possibly distasteful language.) - Walt Crawford
Well, I think "it may depend on what the "pile on" is important. For instance, "Groupthink" is often criticized for policy disasters, but the evidence suggests that high cohesion is not more responsible for failures than other factors. However, "feedback" effects based on what captures our attention, can create real policy problems. For instance, violence on the news tends to capture... more... - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
On the other hand, I think that the so-called "pile-on" has been dead on in other areas. Most recently the story of Rob Ford in Toronto. In my ideal world, there would be a limited "pile-on" (which these days is not feasible as we cannot control the Internet), with a judicious use of limited formal institutions to deal with these issues. Policies around harassment and appropriate... more... - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Wait. Do you honestly think that children placed in protective custody fair worse than they do when they live with the people who rape or otherwise abuse them? Really? - Katy S from iPhone
This thread has gotten way off the rails, so let me try to guide it back by saying that Stephen Abram is a dipstick. - Steele Lawman
Katy - that is a HUGE extrapolation of what I said. I said that our concern for child abuse results in more child protective services which in turn results in more kids taken from their homes for all purposes, because at least in Canada, the burden of proof for such cases is (rightly) much lower for protective services. But yes, I have it from a number of very prominent former deputy... more... - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
I'll admit this is a hot button issue for me. Here, the goal is to always place kids with family when possible. So, perhaps the laws and regulations are a bit different. But, I found the analogy a bit off for this case, anyway, for a variety of reasons - Katy S from iPhone
Back to Abrahm: I find it interesting that someone who felt the need, at several points, to call for civility could rationalize that joke as appropriate in a professional context. - Katy S from iPhone
I guess what I'm saying is ... should Abram ever be the focus of a whole whack of people's attention librarian or no? It's like how Carrottop and Pauly Shore are so unfunny that they become famous for how unfunny they are. The end result is more Carrottop and Pauly Shore, while other more important stuff (including how society should deal with child protective services) are ignored. - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
I don't think Abram is the whole focus; Abram is a particular case of some generally ugly undercurrents in librarianship generally and High Powered Consultant Librarianship in particular. I'm also concerned and unhappy that this conversation is turning into a bingo card. E.g. ryanish's comment struck me as a textbook . - RepoRat
Thanks, RR: I deliberately avoided the whole "silencing" issue because I think it has more resonance from those who have to cope with it--but I also believe it's absolutely legitimate. (Unfortunately, I lack John Scalzi's writing talents...) - Walt Crawford
Dude, I think the guy is a dipstick, but his name is Abram, no S. Let us have authority control in our pile on, or whatever the hell this is. - laura x
Sorry about that. Edited my comment! - RepoRat
I'll take your tone policing and raise you two pluralistic discourse theories and 10 positivist counter-factuals, RR! I should have stopped at the book recommendations I suppose. Thanks. (I also edited my comment.) - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
What RR said about the bingo card. - Rachel Walden
Anyone else noticed that the "pile on" essentially stopped about a day ago? Anyone want to take bets as to any actual consequences for SA? Or RR's HPCL in general? (High Powered Consultant Librarianship...) - Walt Crawford
Hahaha consequences hahaha. - Deborah Fitchett
LGBT vs LGBTQ - a friend is working on policy documentation and wants to use lgbtq (province uses lgbt) so she wants to cite some best practices about why Q is important. thoughts on where to find'em?
A quick Google search suggests that resource centers at universities might be a good place to start. I believe that Q is extremely important. - Julian
to cpmplicate: I just heard that LGBTQI is becoming the phrase - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I've seen QUILTBAG, as well. - Katy S from iPhone
I've seen MOGAI, LGBTQIA+ - Pete : Team Marina
I've seen LGBTQIQA as well. No examples of best practices for you though. - ellbeecee
this is an nyt article rather than a best practices doc, but it's well written and also links to a LOT of those university resource centers Julian refers to - maybe some of them have documentation? [I edited my thoughts about various acronyms to be clearer but they got REALLY long and they are beside the point so now I am taking them out.] - Marianne
One thing I suggest is using whole words as much as possible instead of any abbreviations. Also, don't use the B or T (or bi or trans) unless one really means it. So often, B and T are included, but get no real attention or resources. I think it is a little harder to participate in bisexual erasure or trans erasure when the complete words are used. - maʀtha
Also, in response to your original question, queer is so much more inclusive (at least for many folks of my generation, though folks of older generations may find it offensive because it was often used hurtfully against them) and a less restrictive box than bisexual, gay, or lesbian. - maʀtha
I also suggest including ally along with lesbian, bisexual, gay, trans, and queer. - maʀtha
I like QUILTBAG, and find it whimsical, but I think that it's limited to the sff/geek community, and I've heard criticism about the whimsy - DJF from Android
Yes, it is also important to talk about intersex people, esp. since many of us are woefully ignorant about how biology works - maʀtha
in an academic context, using the word queer also maps nicely to queer studies and queer theory - maʀtha
thanks for the link, marianne! martha - my friend is a social worker specializing in same sex violence working at a feminist organization, so they have all kinds of acronyms they use internally, but they are advising the govt on policy, and want to advocate for including "Q" so i'm trying to give her a list o'sources that have reasons why it should be included. - jambina
Ah, that helps. Would something like this be helpful? - maʀtha
I was hoping GLAAD's media guide would address this, but they don't, except to include LGBT. LGBTQIA+ seems to be what I'm seeing most. - Rachel Walden
So, I just had a faculty member call the reference desk because he had two students in his office who need library materials but don't want to come to the library because they think our fluorescent lights are carcinogenic?
This, from students living in wifi-enabled dorms. Also, there's the sun. - lris
...okay, I'm dying of curiosity here. What did you SAY? - Catherine Pellegrino
I said that we have the same lights that the rest of the campus has. The faculty member (in physics, no less) said he would send them over. - lris
Wow, the kids are really getting creative with the laziness excuses these days. - Mary Carmen
There are sometimes PCBs in the ballasts of light fixtures. Here in NYC, we're spending a fortune to remove such fixtures from school classrooms, where they occasionally start smoking and sometimes dripping who knows what on the heads of unsuspecting students and faculty. - Stephen Francoeur
Yeah, we had that remediation done a couple of years ago, too. At that point, they also changed out the entire lighting system for a spiffy new one (which also happened in other major buildings on campus). - lris
Oh. I guess those kids didn't get the memo...or maybe deviously thought their professor didn't get the memo. - Stephen Francoeur
Yeah, I'm kind of suspicious of their motives... - lris
I'm picturing the prof being all, "weeeeeeelllll, oooooookaaaaaay, lemme just check and see what the library says, hm?" and basically letting you be the bad guy. I'm having a hard time imagining a physics prof falling for this BS. - Catherine Pellegrino
you could quietly put out a couple of tinfoil beanies at the ref desk... - Marie
You should make them a couple of tin foil hats and tell them that blocks the light rays. - John Dupuis
Marie! Love it! - Janet from FFHound!
heeeeeee - lris
LOVE the tinfoil hats. LOVE. THEM. - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, the fun I could have had with this, "Ah yes, we've had similar concerns and have been in touch with the manufacturer. They've done quite a lot of research into this and, as a result, every tube operates on a unique frequency. So long as the light from one tube isn't falling on any one part of your body for more than a couple of seconds, you'll be fine." - Slippy
I'd probably follow it up with "The real concern isn't the lighting, of course. It's the radon. You know, from the books. Radon's a radioactive gas, so you should probably wear some kind of mask if you're going to be handling books during your visit. Even then, no barrier method is perfect, so you should probably avoid inhaling while you're actually looking at the book, just in case." - Slippy
Then sit back and watch red-faced, gasping students spinning and darting about every few seconds. - Slippy
heeee - lris
Yeah, I think the bar also has safer lighting. - lris
Rachel Walden
Nonurgent lazylibrarian request: is there any research on student retention when taking notes by hand vs. typing? By pen/pencil vs. stylus? Just curious, because I find that handwriting notes (which I tend to mark for emphasis, go back over, etc.) helps me retain in a way typing does not.
Typing does seem to lessen retention, there was just a study done on this: - Regular Amanda
(I would add that the methodology of the study is pretty blah. but, it is a study. peer-reviewed and everything.) - Marianne
what i said elsewhere is that I wish they would study people who are getting the most use out of new(ish) technologies like taking notes with a keyboard (or phone) or whatever, instead of exerting effort to demonstrate that most people aren't as able to benefit from a technology they didn't learn as a kid. - Marianne
Marianne, I'm super-interested in what you're saying! When you say the methodology is blah, can you expand on that? Or, what sort of study should we do? - Regular Amanda
Just to clarify, I'm not anti-digital notetaking or anything, just wondering if there is anything inherently different about using one's hand to write letters vs. typing them in. Marianne makes a good point about personal experience, that my better retention with writing is not necessarily a "brains work better this way" thing but could be an "I learned like this" thing. - Rachel Walden
Amanda, my biggest issue with the study I read (cf is that they instructed the students who were taking notes on laptops with a statement "People who take class notes on laptops when they expect to be tested on the material later tend to transcribe what they’re hearing without... more... - Marianne
oof, sorry to go on. i have to admit the only reason i paid attention to the study in the first place is that as a person with a hand disability, I've been successfully taking notes on a laptop for decades (because pen and paper isn't an option for more than 10 minutes), and been dealing with "OH NOES YOU WANT TO USE A LAPTOP" until about 2010 or so, when it stopped being an issue most... more... - Marianne
Thank you! That seems so strange to me, to prime the subjects like that. I'm not an expert, but isn't experimental design usually about figuring out how to NOT tell the subjects what's under study? - Regular Amanda
Nice take on the "pen is better than laptop" studies here: Excerpt: "See, I don’t think the takeaway is “don’t take notes with laptops.” I think the takeaway is — we have to start teaching people how to take notes. Better yet, we have to start teaching people how to use the information they gain from lectures, videos, infographics, textbooks, readings and learning objects." - Megan loves summer
Amanda, it depends hugely on the discipline, but yes, in psych it usually is. Certainly, even if the question is open to the participants, the hypothesis (or associated sub-hypotheses) aren't meant to be presented as facts. Megan, thanks for posting, that's a really good piece. - Marianne
academic libs. i'm curious - how many prov/state/federal holidays do you get? how many vacation days?
15 holidays per year and I get 20 vacation days. Only 12 month faculty status and staff get vacation time. I'm trying to find where it's listed who gets how many - it's based on how long you've been at the institution. ETA: 12 month faculty get 15 days their first year and 1 extra day per year (up to 20) starting in year 2. - ~Courtney F
14 holidays per year, and either 22 or 25 vacation days, I'm not sure. ETA: oh yes, like jambina, we are also closed btw Xmas and New Years and paid for those days. - Meg VMeg
24 holidays this year, but that was up from past years (19 or so; we got fall break and spring break this year). I'm currently earning 18 days of vacation (started at 15). - Kirsten
12 holidays per year, and I accrue vacation at the max: 1.75 days per month, plus 1 extra annually. So 21 vacation days and 12 holidays = the equivalent of 6.5 weeks of paid discretionary leave. (New employees accrue at 1.25 days/month, then 1.5, then 1.75.) - Jenica
12 official paid holidays, Faculty (we are faculty members) members working on a fiscal-year (12-month) basis accrue 21 working days of vacation time a year, Faculty members on fiscal year appointments of less-than-full-time accrue annual leave in proportion to their fulltime equivalency. - ellbeecee
7 paid holidays (4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving day and the day after, Christmas eve and day, New Year's Day), 3 "floating holiday" days to use at other times, 20 vacation day. - lris
9 prov/fed holidays. 25 vacation days (cuz of tenure, tenure-track have 22). and the university is closed the week between xmas and new years (we get paid for those). - jambina
Dang, my college needs to step it up in the paid leave department. :/ - lris
wow, very interesting. thanks all! - weelibrarian
New Zealand public holidays are 1-2 Jan, 6 Feb, 25 April, Easter Friday and Monday, 1st Mon of June, Labour Day in Oct, and 25-26 Dec. There's also a provincial show day we get off. In addition, universities traditionally take Easter Tuesday and all the days between Christmas and New Year. In addition to that I get 5 weeks of annual leave (4 of which is the law, 1 of which is union-negotiated so varies a bit between universities). Oh, plus unlimited sick leave which is *not* usual but ought to be. - Deborah Fitchett
Funny you should ask now, because I was just explaining our new policy to someone. We get *NO* holidays (now) that are simply paid to everyone as holidays. They switched us to a paid time off system where not only do vacation and sick days come out of the same bank, but we have to draw from our PTO if we want to get paid on a holiday. If work is closed on a holiday and we have no PTO left, we go unpaid. We also have new, lower caps on how much leave we can have accrued at any one time. - Rachel Walden
168 duty days - maʀtha
(for anyone interested, our new cap on PTO accrual for those here >10 years is 34 days) - Rachel Walden
Holly's favorite Anna
RT @misspotkin: What does THE WORST SOFA THAT HAS EVER BEEN MADE look like? Wonder no more....
RT @misspotkin: What does THE WORST SOFA THAT HAS EVER BEEN MADE look like? Wonder no more....
Or the best sofa... - Rachel Walden
It is a matter of perspective. Pretty sure this would be a hit in certain lesbian homes. - Holly's favorite Anna
Saves money as you don't have to buy inflatable dolls you just pork your couch - Steve C Team Marina
Rachel Walden
Ladies of the LSW, you have made many excellent and helpful recommendations for online ordering of pants and shoes. Now - anybody had any luck ordering bras online? . I find their universal-sizing system helpful; most sites strand you in the difference between US/Euro sizing. - RepoRat
I buy from La Senza, they're in Canada. Have had decent luck with them. - Hedgehog
I second herroom. before babies I used to get cheap ones from one hanes place... I think that's the one that even has models running in the sports bras to prove how supportive they are. - Christina Pikas
Thanks - I'd never heard of herroom! - Rachel Walden
Only after being fit professionally. I'll order the brands that work in styles I've already tried. Nordstrom = bliss for this hard-to-fit person. - kaijsa
I actually buy from ebay after being fit professionally, which taught me the exact (expensive) brand and styles that I like. - Meg VMeg
I'm taking a chance on ordering online this time - I don't have a car, and I hate shopping, so walking or bussing (on our terrible, slow system) all over Nashville to different stores to try things on is not gonna happen. - Rachel Walden
I got measured at a local store (and bought a couple of bras there as well). With my measurements in hand and good experience with brands I feel pretty comfortable buying from Bare Necessities. Though I'm glad to hear about other sites! - Sarah from FreshFeed
Where's a good place to be fit professionally? - YvonneM
The best fittings I've had were at Nordstrom. I've heard that small specialty boutiques can be good, but they aren't available everywhere. The idiots at Victoria Secret are NO GOOD. They only carry up to DD and try to get you into something there at any cost, even if it doesn't fit. No other department stores have come close to the perfection that is Nordstrom. - kaijsa
Second a specialty boutique if there's one in your area. - RepoRat
Rachel - Nordstrom and Rebecka Vaughan (, the boutique known for fitting) are both in Green Hills. I know that's not super-helpful with our crappy transit, but they're not far from each other if you wanted to get fitted. - ~Courtney F
Thanks, Courtney! - Rachel Walden
this just came across one of my feeds - maʀtha
Stephen Francoeur
Do you know by heart your library ID# or barcode #?
Yes. Both work and my local public library. - ellbeecee
For work yes, PL no. - Pete : Team Marina
90257862952. Yep. - RepoRat
Nope, but my browser has it stored. I just have to remember the first digit (7). - Catherine Pellegrino
Yes! though I got a new barcode on my ID and didn't tell the library system. - barbara fister
I don't know my barcode #, but I know the alternate ID I created for it. - Katy S
nope - DJF
barbara, how do you check things out, then? - DJF
I do have mine saved as a keyboard shortcut tho - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Yep. - Jason P
I know the numbers of my PL one, but can never remember what order they go in. Work? Maybe first three digits, on a good day. (Remembering random strings of numbers is not a strong suit.) - Kirsten
I remember my credit-card number too. (Not gonna type it here tho. Don't ask.) - RepoRat
I JUST finally memorized it after 8 years. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
I couldn't learn the first one. They gave me a new one when I moved, and for some reason that one was a breeze to learn. - Betsy
RR, what's your credit card number (by heart, please, and with CCV and exp date)? - Uli
Yes, all 14 digits of it! - Lisa Hinchliffe
I can probably be attacked via social engineering. BUT IT'S GONNA BE HARDER THAN THAT Y'ALL. - RepoRat
you mean there are people who DON'T have their credit card numbers memorized? - DJF
I don't have mine memorized … relying instead on the keyboard shortcut. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
No. This is this first card I've had since junior high where I didnt tho. also first time I've had a publib w/ username for placing holds that wasnt my card# - Hedgehog from Android
I can, however tell you a number from jr high/high school 120204588926 - Hedgehog from Android
i know my publib one but not my work one - Christina Pikas
Work, yes; public no. This work one is much shorter than the last which I also knew (and shorter than the public). - Rebecca Hedreen
Nope, I keep it in a password-locked local Evernote note so I can copy/paste whenever I need to log in and renew things. - MontglaneChess
Work yes, pub lib no - Joe
I have had it memorized for years. - Julian
I have everything memorized. It's a curse. I still remember some NDC codes from when I was a pharmacy assistant and CPT codes from when I worked at a surgery center. - kaijsa
00085-1132 is an albuterol inhaler. Never forget! - kaijsa
Yes and everyone at my library is amazed I have it memorized - John: Thread Killer
Our ID system doesn't talk to our patron records, so I have no idea what my new barcode is - and neither does our ILS. I aim to keep it that way rather than memorize a new 14-digit number. - barbara fister
I am with Kaijsa. I have managed to forget a few barcodes, but 6-20-16 was my junior high locker combo. - laura x from iPhone
Nope. I know my Texas driver license number, though. - Meg VMeg
I did, but then I became a donor to the library and they issued me a special card. That's nice, but it had a new number :( - Heather Piwowar from iPhone
sure, although it's not really required because my browser will remember it ... thankfully, for work and school it's all connected to AD logins so there's nothing extra to remember. - henry
Work yes, public no. - Steele Lawman
Public library, 14 digits, yes. :) - Rachel Walden
Mostly - FLEMING from Android
Time to cry into my lunch for a bit with the office door closed. So tired.
Dislike. - Steele Lawman
*fistbump* - MoTO: Team Marina
Phooey. And hugs. - laura x
Thanks all. I'm pulling it together. Time to prep for my next meeting. Whee. - lris
oh noes. big internet hugs. - maʀtha
thinking of you. - Marianne
sorry, iris. - Rachel Walden
Sending love, and I hope your afternoon goes swiftly so you can get home and rest. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
**hugs** - Jennifer Dittrich from FFHound!
aw, boo. - Marie
Hugs - Janet from FFHound!
Hope your afternoon is going better. - Kirsten
*hugs and happy thoughts* - Heather
*more hugs* - Galadriel C. from Android
bleah - Meg VMeg
Hope today is better. - Jen
Regular Amanda
And so it is near the end of the semester, when the cries of students echo throughout the library "please, I've already finished my paper and just need a few sources", and the librarians despair.
sob - lris
*wince*....yup, I get those for case reports from my dentistry students. - Hedgehog
Now that I've been teaching semester-long classes for a few years, I am convinced that finding sources for a complete-ish paper is actually a BETTER strategy than getting so overwhelmed by sources that the writing becomes a patchwork of badly-integrated quotes (barely) held together by very little student-generated thought. - kaijsa
I see that point, because at least it means that most of this paper is the student's reaction to the text rather than the regurgitation of other opinions. But it also means that the student is now going to find a few articles in JSTOR, ctrl+F for applicable phrases, and patchwork that nonsense in anyway. I hate setting these poor articles up for abuse like that. - Regular Amanda
Ugh. I think this is symptomatic of how students are told to write a paper but never taught how to write a paper or told why they should write papers, beyond hoop-jumping and grade-making. Kaijisa, I see what you're saying, but I worry about the effects of the "write up thoughts, then find support" approach because the students are not necessarily properly relying on evidence to guide... more... - Rachel Walden
Just to be clear, I am not defending any of these practices. Writing AND research are iterative and interconnected processes. Using sources well is really, really hard and requires a lot more instruction and opportunity for practice than is typically given. As Rachel says, requiring something is not teaching it. I'm kicking myself over this and many other things this semester. - kaijsa
^^Yup. - Rachel Walden
Being referred to in a group as "you guys" is so, so irritating to me.
It's possible I have a bad attitude today. - Marie from iPhone
I'm trying to break myself of that habit - maʀtha
one of my faculty told me off in a email for addressing her and male colleagues as "you guys" - Sir Shuping is just sir
all y'all - Greg GuitarBuster
Nah, just "y'all." Reserve "all y'all" for situations in which a group is in trouble: "All y'all better X if you know what's good for you!" ;) - Rachel Walden
I know where you're coming from. Related problem: the word gals seems awkward to me. Similar to dudes in a non-surfing context. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
From my experience, the use of "all y'all" requires a mid-air finger snap. - Marie
I've been making a conscious effort to switch to "folks" for exactly this reason. - Catherine Pellegrino
I've developed a negative reaction to 'folks', probably because of its overuse in political speeches "folks are having a hard time, they're hurting" (of course the speaker isn't REALLY connected to 'folks') - Greg GuitarBuster
Maybe it's because I grew up with a lot of brothers, but I have no problem with "you guys". I don't see it as gendered. "Ladies", on the other hand, raises my hackles as a way to refer to a group of females. - Spidra Webster
I usually refer to a group as "y'all" out of habit. A weird habit to have for a native Californian, really. :) And Spidra, I detest when someone rolls up and refers to a group of women as "ladies". It always feels so disingenuine and almost patronizing. - Hookuh Tinypants
I got your second-person plural pronoun right here, Ladies. - Holly's favorite Anna
I've seen enough instances of people saying "you guys" to all-female groups that I believe it really is gender-neutral for a subset of native speakers - but also try to avoid it myself because of the subset for whom it really really isn't. I think formally I say "you all" if disambiguation is required ("y'all" isn't a word here; "youse" is but isn't natural in my own mouth), and on social media I say "folks" or "tweeps" or use the Māori "hoa mā" (friends) depending on audience. - Deborah Fitchett
Sometimes, I will say "Hi everyone," or "Hi all," when sending an email to a buncha people. - Joe
What is wrong with you guys? - Joe
Hi all, or You all. - Betsy
People - maʀtha
Peeps. - Joe
I am actually quite irritated when someone at work sends an email to everyone in the support dept, and opens it with something like "Hey guys and gal" or "Hey guys (and April)", since I am the only female in the group. I don't like being singled out like that. For me, I'd much prefer "Hey guys" without the additional add-on just for me. I also consider "guys" to be gender neutral, in... more... - April Russo
Rachel Walden
Anybody have recommendations for students on sources of financial aid/grants/scholarships?
More specifically, student was told to get a book on sources of grants/scholarships, but I am not sure what to recommend. - Rachel Walden
Wow. We used to keep books like that in our reference section, until they invented this thing called "the internet." We've weeded them all, but maybe your reference section has one? Or the public library? Can the student narrow it down any: grants/scholarships for college? grad school? students with particular characteristics? studying particular fields? - Catherine Pellegrino
pub lib has these big floppy books that list grants/scholarships... tons of them. they're with the gre/gmat/act/whatever study books - Christina Pikas,, and are all free databases that are pretty good. - kaijsa
What is this "internet" you speak of? ;) Thanks for the online suggestions, will pass along. - Rachel Walden
Rachel Walden
Talking to a libschool class today. When did I become a real (library) grown-up? ;)
It's possible I told the babybrarians not to be supervisors or go into management unless they really loved unsticking problems for people and helping good people do their best work. - Rachel Walden
Victor Ganata
It occurs to me that "The Princess Bride" could totally take place in Westeros. Maybe there's not enough nudity and whoring, but there's certainly plenty of treachery, scheming, plotting, torturing, and running people through with swords.
Sounds like you have your next crossover fanfiction idea. :) - Rachel Walden
A little too much whimsy for Westeros. - Todd Hoff
You'd really just need to put off-screen events on screen: like all the other trumped-up wars that Humperdinck has probably started, all the crimes Vizzini, Iñigo, and Fezzik had to commit to pay the bills before they got the job from Humperdinck, all the people Wesley probably robbed and murdered as a dread pirate, all the people that Count Rugen arbitrarily tortured and/or slaughtered, that sort of thing. And I actually think there's a lot of whimsy in Westeros :D - Victor Ganata
I mean, Count Rugen kind of strikes me as a cross between Tywin Lannister and the Bastard of Bolton, to be honest :D - Victor Ganata
The novel version of *The Princess Bride" actually goes a little more into detail about the torture and other perversions that Humperdinck and Rugen are into. - Victor Ganata
Heh, according to William Goldman's framework conceit about *The Princess Bride* being an abridged story, the fictitious original text by S. Morgenstern is supposed to be primarily about the excesses of nobility. So one can imagine Goldman just cleaning up all the sexual perversion and whoring and all the torture and murder not relevant to the main plot to make it PG-13 :D - Victor Ganata
Rachel Walden
Okay, ladies of the LSW: I need a new pair of black flats, professional enough but comfortable and very walkable (think for use at conferences, with skirts, etc.). Any brands/styles you particularly recommend? I hate shoe shopping because I have short wide feet that are hard to fit, will probably order online.
Thanks, I'd never heard of either of those! - Rachel Walden
are Danskos flat enough? I find their clogs & summer sandals incredibly comfy & walkable. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
The Cole Haan flats with Nike Air soles are spendy, but amazing. My coworker & I both have the one with a slight heel; she's had hers for years & they still look great. A friend has the ballet flats, & she was the one who recommended them to me. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
If you don't mind old-ladyish shoes, maybe look at Propet. Zappos carries them. - RepoRat
Ooh, will look at all those too! Thanks! - Rachel Walden
I don't know how professional you'll think these look (I categorize 99% of ballet flats as casual), but Tieks are very comfortable. Expensive, but worth it in my opinion. In general, flats are UNcomfortable to me. - kaijsa
I am a HUGE fan of Cole Haan with the Nike Air soles. FYI, you can often find them at Nordstrom Rack for about 30% off. They last a long time. - Lisa Hinchliffe
I live in Aerosoles ballet flats during the summer. They tend to have wide sizes and wear like iron. - Hedgehog
If you don't mind butch shoes, I find my short wide hard to fit feet fit a lot better into men's sizes than womens. these are my go-to shoes right now: - Marianne
Marianne, those remind me of the Rockport men's shoes I've worn for years. I don't know what the model. I just take them to the store every couple of years and ask them for a new pair just like it. :-) - Betsy
In addition to some that have been named (I love my Jambu shoes), Clarks and Born. - Katy S from iPhone
Amy Mather converted me to the FitFlop flip flop a few years back. I always have a difficult time with my feet at conference (now diagnosed and being treated, yay!) and those shoes save my life. And I truly abhor flip flops. They are, as a whole, more blingy than I would like, but that makes them more professional, right? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
As someone who's had problems with plantar fasciitis in the past, I like the orthaheel (and this made me go check where I found some new ones on sale. Yay! - ellbeecee
you've reminded me that I need to try on all my work shoes now that I'm postpartum. I dread this. - Jenica
i bought these at TJ Maxx 3 weeks ago and i lurve them. superlight and comfy. do not, however, suddenly become a n00b and try and break them in during the conference. because that is just dumb, buckland. (i have wide feet too) - jambina
*scribbles notes* Thank you! Many in here I've never heard of. - Rachel Walden
I bought these in summer 2012, and they are amazing. Wide feet, and one of them was swollen for most of 2012 due to injury -- these were the only shoes I could reliably and comfortably wear. They've also held up well. - Jenica
As someone with wide feet as well, I'm in love with the Bendables line from Clarks. - Katie
Keen - maʀtha
Wide feet here too and the brands I have the best luck with are Keen, Naot, Alegria and no Vionic (though my shoe-shopping is complicated by the need to also need orthotics) - kristin buxton
I really want to try Alegria shoes. And Jambu looks really cool. - maʀtha
DO NOT BUY PATENT Alegria shoes. I love them to death, but they squeak horribly! Two pair like that. I have a non-patent pair that are wonderful and squeak-free. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
*goes to look at Cole Haan with the Nike Air soles * - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
(I'm going to have to blame you all for the really cute shoes winging their way to me right now! It's as much you as the fact that I'm in an air cast and can only wear sneakers!) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Catherine Pellegrino
Confessing once again that I am a Truly Incompetent Librarian: I have a list of 6 journals that I need to arrange for TOC alerts for. One has an RSS feed [EDIT: they all have RSS feeds and I am a goober. Carry on.] One is in Ingenta. Is there any way -- ANY way AT ALL -- to get TOC alerts from all 6 journals unified in one place?
so, four of them you'd basically have to watch for changes to the Current Issue page? do I have that right? - RepoRat
Well, one of the remaining four is on MetaPress, so I can get a TOC alert if I register for a free account with MetaPress. But that only works for one of them, and I've already got a free account with Ingenta that I'm using for Just This One Other Journal. What I'm trying to avoid is five different free accounts for Just That One Journal + one RSS feed. - Catherine Pellegrino
Both Ingenta and promise "all your TOC alerts in one place!" except, not really. - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, and the one that has an RSS feed didn't used to, so I had a "watch for changes to this one webpage and alert me when they happen" service set up for that one -- which, again, one service for one journal. GAH THIS IS 2014 THIS SHOULD BE EASIER BY NOW WHERE IS MY JET-POWERED BACKPACK. - Catherine Pellegrino
AND A PONY. - Catherine Pellegrino
yeah, a website-watch service was what I was gonna suggest, with IFTTT or Yahoo Pipes to tie it all together. - RepoRat
oooh, I hadn't thought about IFTTT or Yahoo Pipes. Good call. Got a website-watch service you'd recommend? (I've forgotten what I used to use, and it's probably been shut down or bought by Facebook by now). - Catherine Pellegrino
Okay, now I feel like an Even More Incompetent Librarian: they all, actually, have RSS feeds. Every one of them. I just hadn't looked hard enough and got all caught up in TOC alerting systems and email alerts and the foo and the wah. Now they're all just piped into my feed reader. Stand down, everyone. (I still want my jetpack, though.) - Catherine Pellegrino
Yay! In case you need it in future though, Yahoo Pipes itself can watch and scrape websites. It's how I built an RSS feed for the news items on MPOW's website. --It's a long story don't ask. - Deborah Fitchett
Might be able to do something like that through some EBSCO databases? - Joe
If they were all indexed in a common database, you could potentially set up email alerts of new results based on a search for the titles, but that might get messy. - Rachel Walden
There was this great lightning talk at LibTech 2014 where a Yahoo Pipe was already created for this kind of thing. Here's the pipe:, and the presentation ( - GretelSK
Catherine, I know/hope you're kidding, but I still want to say you're FAR from an incompetent librarian. You're on my secret list called Awesome Librarians to Know and Learn From. - kaijsa
^^^ mine too. (not that it's particularly secret.) - Marianne
Aw, shucks. *digs toe awkwardly in the sand* :) - Catherine Pellegrino
You are on a beach, I knew it. - Joe
If you have RefWorks, this used to be somthing I did there. (To my knowledge, RW still has function - I just gave up on keeping up with TOCs!) - Lisa Hinchliffe
Tom Bruno
RT @john_overholt: I should remind everyone that there are still two putative human skin bindings that haven't been confirmed or denied.
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