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anyone done an external assessment of ILL before, like how your patrons feel about it? I'm looking for some examples of questions to ask, ways to conduct the assessment, etc.
*afternoon bump*
- Sir Shuping is just sir
What do you hope to learn? Are there specific things that are possible to change or new services you need feedback on, or what?
- Rachel Walden
I'm hoping to find out what we need to do to improve services and how we communicate with our patrons. we haven't done any type of feedback in over 15 years, so its time I think. I'm thinking that might lead to ideas of new services that we can/need to offer
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Hmm, bumping for more ideas on how to go about it, if folks have suggestions for Sir.
- Rachel Walden
I haven't done such a thing. But I'd be trying to find out which usergroups had heard about it, what they understand its purpose to be; if you charge then is that a barrier to them; what delivery method(s) do they want; are there issues of timeliness? format? image quality? others?
- Deborah Fitchett
thanks Deborah, that helps! anyone else have suggestions?
- Sir Shuping is just sir
You've probably already done this, but there's always LISTA/Library Literature/Emerald. Looks like there are at least a couple of articles about people who've run them. Ex: "Interlibrary Loan Satisfaction Survey at the University of Evansville." If they haven't included actual questions, you could always email the author.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I haven't looked at Emerald yet (I always forget about them) but I'll take a look thanks!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
*Sigh* It was one of those Mondays where I forgot my pants at home.
Jen, RudĩϐЯaЯïan, Galadriel C. and 2 other people liked this
(Biked to work...then realized that I missed some key elements in my change-of-clothes packing)
- Megan loves summer
Just explain that it's your interpretation of business casual.
- lris
I'd think they'd understand that in Australia.
- Steele Lawman
Hmmm, I'm not sure how legal 'topless' would be when I'm teaching my Equity Law workshops...even in Australia
- Megan loves summer
Eep! That has happened to me, no fun! Had to buy a dress at the hospital gift shop one day!
- Rachel Walden
Funny Crazy BIG CAT SOUNDS! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Meg V. Meg and Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart liked this
That ocelot is SO ADORABLE. Now I want to go snorgle with my cats. Why is there no midday cat snorgling. Also, Pyewacket chuffs like the tigers do :)
- Hedgehog
Working from home means I can have midday cat AND dog snorgling! :D
- Laura H.
The tiger and lion roars make the lizard brain part of my brain want to run and hide. Some of the others are super cute.
- Rachel Walden
This would make for a great version of that toy, with the spinning disc in the middle, that gives the animal sound when you pull the string: "The serval says, 'nom nom nom nom nom nom'...'nom nom nom'"
- Meg V. Meg
^^^ I want this toy.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Also, Rachel, that lizard brain thing is totally true. The first time my then-toddler son toddled up to the lion's enclosure at the local zoo I nearly had a panic attack, even though I KNEW he was totally safe.
- Catherine Pellegrino
RIP Frodo. You were a sweet boy even if nobody but us got to see that side of you. I love my Fro-diddly.
Iván Abrego, Brent Schaus, Mo Kargas and 31 other people liked this
:( So sorry LB.
- Me
:( {{LB}}
- c.a.j.
{{{Laura}}}
- Anika
**hugs** I'm so sorry :(
- Jennifer Dittrich
I'm very sad to read this, LB.
- Greg GuitarBuster
oh, doll. so so sorry for your family. you did right by him though, you know that.
- t-ra: not givin up
:( *hugs* I'm sorry LB
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I am so very sorry, Laura. You gave him a wonderful, happy life.
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
I'm very sorry.
- Eric - seven eleven
:-(
- Jenny
I'm so sorry, Laura. I know how hard this is.
- Katy S
I love you Sis!
- Lois Loves LB and Mr. B
:(
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
He knew he was loved.
- Kirsten
I'm so sorry LB. Its such a heart breaking thing to have to do.
- Shannon - GlassMistress
Oh, Laura. Such a brave decision. Crying with you... praying for you & Mr. B. *hugs*
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
So sorry LB.
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
RIP Frodo :( *hugs*
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
I'm very sorry, LB. *hugs*
- Betsy #TeamMonique
My condolences!
- Rachel Walden
What a rough decision. My condolences.
- Lnorigb
I'm sorry Laura {hugs}
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
*hugs*
- John (bird whisperer)
:(
- Jim #TeamMonique
from iPhone
:(
- Julian
*hugs* so sorry LB :(
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm so sorry, Laura. I hope you can take a little solace that you gave him a happy, loving life.
- Anne Graham
Goodbye, faithful, loving lad
- maʀtha
I'm so sorry Laura. Many hugs to you and Mr. B.
- Hedgehog
I'm sorry sorry Laura. Thinking of you and Mr. B.
- Soup in a TARDIS
:(
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
Oh, Laura! I'm so sorry for you & Mr. B & the pups. *much love and sympathy*
- Laura H.
I'm sorry for your loss. :-(
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
{The Botts}
- Pete #TeamMonique
Oh big hugs to you and Mr. B. :(
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
I'm so sorry for your loss.
- joey
Sorry for what happened!
- SophiaAnne88
Sorry, LB.
- Friar Ticket to Ride
I'm so sorry. I know you gave him a happy and healthy home.
- Jed Harris-Keith
from iPhone
*hugs*
- Kristin
hugs- sorry for your loss..
- Peter Dawson
Very sorry for your loss, Laura.
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Thank you all very much.
- LB: #TeamMonique
(((Laura)))
- Monique the crochet freak
I'm so sorry, Laura.
- Mary Carmen
So sorry. :(
- Heather
(( LB ))
- Julian
Much love xoxox
- Headless Gnad Kicker
((((LB)))
- VALZ/TEAM TRAVIS
Oh, love. *hugs*
- Pixie
Sorry, LB.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
((hugs))
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Aw, man. I'm so sorry for your loss.
- Spidra Webster
be well http://www.petloss.com/rainbow...
- WarLord
*hugs* My condolences, LB, on the loss of your beloved pet.
- Anne Bouey
:(
- Bash
I'm so sorry LB. So hard to lose a furry family member. *hugs*
- Carmen
RIP :(
- imabonehead
I'm so very sorry, LB. A sad sad day.
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
oh my condolences
- hasinihemanth
I'm sorry :[
- esther
Our feedback board re: our 24/5 finals week hours is asking for suggestions. There are a handful of requests for kittens, and one for "rock salt and wrought iron for the demons", and then one for "cups for the free water dispenser." So we put out cups. The next day "Bigger cups, please."
LibrarianOnTheLoose, Yo Joe. No, go slow., RudĩϐЯaЯïan and 5 other people liked this
I would love to know what happens if you put out rock salt and wrought iron.
- RepoRat
I use these boards to keep me grounded. On the one hand, knowing what students really think REALLY MATTERS as i make decisions. And staying in their goofy-ass loop is awesome. But on the other hand, I have to remember we'll absolutely 100% never ever ever ever please them all fully. Ever.
- Jenica
RR, it's damned tempting. :)
- Jenica
doooooo eeeeeeeeet!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Yes, put out a basket labeled "as requested" with rock salt, wrought iron, and pictures of kittens.
- lris
I asked the undergrad library here if they kept all the suggestion cards and responses on their (lively, EPIC WIN) suggestion board. Turns out they do. I told them they HAD to do a chapbook of these; it'd be a WIZARD fundraising tool. Sigh. They didn't listen.
- RepoRat
...days like this are why I love working in libraries. Best after lunch cheer ever.
- MontglaneChess
Totally need to put salt around some windows and doors and post pictures.
- Rachel Walden
Oh, and if you do the salt/iron, you should also put out a small box with a hinged lid and label it a "crossroads box."
- Rachel Walden
Isn't it supposed to be "cold iron"? I'm not up on my demonology... I guess that's an oversight that could really come back to bite me, huh?
- Bill Hooker
so, how many libraries are offering BrowZine on their iPads?
Thinking on this now.
- Rachel Walden
We do. I just spoke about this in my first & only presentation!
- Julie Kane
from iPhone
Julie Kane - can I see it? We're thinking about it.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Project Little Human initiated. ETA: November 11, 2013.
Carmen, Wulffy, Georgia and 112 other people liked this
Congratulations :)
- Hedgehog
ha! i guessed right but i didn't think it proper to ask. Congrats!
- Christina Pikas
:)
- Pete #TeamMonique
#bleepyeahbuttercup. And congrats to the Nycest parents in the school.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Congratulations!
- adf
Lol. Yes, mommy has hypermesis and has been home for the past month with no end in sight. Other than the constant vomiting everyone is healthy.
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
woohoo! :)
- Hieronymous Boob
CONGRATS!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
How wonderful!
- Anne Bouey
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so happy for the both of you....
- VALZ/TEAM TRAVIS
Congrats!
- Brent Schaus
Very happy for you both!
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Thanks y'all. We strongly feel its a girl, but won't know for certain for a few more weeks.
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
Congrats! Hoping they offer you a Zofran pump option!
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
WAHOO!! :D
- Laura H.
Congratulations!
- joey
Yay babby!
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
HappyHappyHappyHappy!!!
- Russian Space Lizard
from FFHound!
Yay! Finally I can congratulate you! :) Maybe you can talk to Kate.
- Running Slow
Congratulations!!!!
- the king of the interweb
Congrats!
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Congrats!
- MoTO #TeamMonique
congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
You know, "Barry" can be used with either gender. #justsayin *cough*
- MoTO #TeamMonique
Lol....the baby is going to have a either a very Scottish name or a very Italian name. There seems to be no in between.
- Mary Carmen
Congratulations!!!
- Jennifer Dittrich
Congratulations, that is exciting!
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Christina: I also guessed right but also didn't want to ask. Also, congratulations!
- Betsy #TeamMonique
Yeah, it was pretty obvious. But Scott wouldn't let me come clean till after the first trimester.
- Mary Carmen
w00t! :-)
- Steven Perez
from Android
Congrats!
- John (bird whisperer)
Wow, you've been breeding! FANTASTIC! Srsly congrats, lady :)
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Congrats! :)
- LB: #TeamMonique
from Android
I look forward to little Eva's debut on the podcast. OH NOEZ POSSIBLE FUTURE INFO CONTAMINATION OF TIMELINE DELETE COMMENT
- Steven Perez
Hyphenate for the best of both: Guiseppe-Hamish if it's a boy, Carmine-Eilidh if it's a girl.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Hamish Kaidan or Isabella Suzanne.....no hyphens necessary.
- Mary Carmen
Beautiful!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
<333333!!!
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Congratulations!!
- Yolanda
Would be neat to deliver the 12th. 11/12/13 :)
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
Yay! I was so hoping that this was the secret! Congrats to you both.
- Shannon - GlassMistress
I'd guessed this as well - and happy I was right. Nyce. ;)
- Great Scott! Snow!
congrats!
- imabonehead
Congratulations!
- Harold
Yay!
- Jed Harris-Keith
from iPhone
Yay!!! :)
- Micah
Congratulations!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Squee! Omg!
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
I wondered at one point with all the emesis.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
Congratulations, you two!! <3
- Kelli H.
Congratulations!
- Son of Groucho
YAYAYAY!!! I wondered... :))) So happy for you guys!!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
The most awesome project you will ever undertake! Enjoy!
- DJ Stevie Steve
Congratulations Mary and Scott!
- Mike Nencetti
Yay! Congrats to you both :)
- Jen
*bumpity* because it's MC and Scott. LITERALLY!
- MoTO #TeamMonique
YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Congratulations, that's fantastic news.
- Yvonne
Con'grats !!
- Peter Dawson
LMP? :D
- ووووزلا
Congrats!!! =D
- David Cook
<3 Awesome.
- Pixie
Yay! :D
- Michael W. May
Congratulations!
- Jim #TeamMonique
I just saw your pregnancy whine post and I think all of downtown Sac heard me say, "Wait, she's pregnant?" (scroll back scroll back scroll back, find announcement) Wow! Congrats to you and Scott.
- Corinne L
Thanks, Corinne!
- Mary Carmen
Congrats!!!!
- Rachel Walden
Is it weird to still use the old business letter format with the mailing address of the sender and recipient? I mean, I'm not physically mailing it anywhere, but it looks wrong without it somehow. (for a cover letter)
I always do even though it is a little weird.
- laura x
what laura x said. I make my students do it on cover letters, too.
- RepoRat
Yep. What Laura said.
- Catherine Pellegrino
If you don't use a formal layout of some kind, it devolves into casual email. So, since a standard layout is needed, the one we're all used to makes sense. <-- my $0.02
- Bill Hooker
I do it for thing like cover letter and recommendations.
- kaijsa
Way I figure it (and this is what I tell my students), a little extra unnecessary formality never did nobody no harm; that's why you dress one level up from your prospective employers for an interview. Whereas if you omit the formality and end up in front of a stickler for etiquette, you're screwed.
- RepoRat
Thanks, all.
- Rachel Walden
My Chair regularly takes lengthy phone calls over speakerphone. At least once a week. In the office next to mine. All days, this is annoying. Some days, I have to resist the urge to play P!nk at audible levels without headphones. today? Is a P!nk kind of day. *stabbity*
I hate speakerphone with the fire of ten thousand suns. *sending virtual xanax*
- kaijsa
Ugh, speakerphone makes me angry. As does being able to hear people's music when they have headphones/earbuds.
- Rachel Walden
wait...your chair talks??? :P (sory i couldn't resist)
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Possibly of interest: "Apologies for any cross-postings: My colleague Scott Vieira and I are gathering data on librarian opinions regarding sex materials in libraries. Our hopes for this survey titled "Collecting Sex Materials in Libraries" is to understand different opinions on books/magazines/materials regardless of experience in handling them...
and regardless of the type of library in which you currently work. This survey is for children's librarians, public librarians, academic and archivists, and everyone in between who works in (or has in the past) a library.
- Rachel Walden
. Whether you're pro sex materials or anti or anything in between, we want your opinions. We understand the survey is a bit long, but we're hoping the chance to win 1 of 4 Amazon gift cards will be the carrot to keep you going until the end. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s....
- Rachel Walden
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact Scott Vieira at 936-294-3743 or svieira@shsu.edu or Michelle Martinez at 936-294-1629 or mmartinez@shsu.edu
- Rachel Walden
When you say "sex materials" do you mean ... well, what do you mean? The imagination can go kind of wild...
- lris
Iris, the word you're looking for is "realia." :-)
- Betsy #TeamMonique
*clutches hand sanitizer*
- lris
I *highly* encourage everyone to fill this out!
- Katie
Feedback sent about flawed question regarding gender - three options are M, F, or prefer not to answer. HRC (surprisingly) has some good suggestions about how to frame more inclusive survey questions about gender. http://www.hrc.org/resourc...
- maʀtha
Thanks for sending that feedback, Marth. Sorry, not my survey or colleagues, just passing it along.
- Rachel Walden
FYI, this survey is really long, so set aside some time to complete it *plods along*
- maʀtha
also, fyi, no realia :)
- maʀtha
It is a wee bit long. But I kinda love clicking "Oklahoma" in the demographics and then clicking on very not-Oklahoma-typical responses.
- Kirsten
how do you pronounce subsequent: sub-SEE-quent or sub-suh-quent?
sub-suh-quent
- Monique the crochet freak
the second.
- holly #ravingfangirl
suh
- Jenica
It depends on the noun for me.
- Anika
sub-suh-quent
- John (bird whisperer)
Both, actually. Same with either and neither. I have no sense of consistency.
- Jed Harris-Keith
sub-seh-quent.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
suh (or seh, but not accented)
- Walt Crawford
SUB-suh-quent
- Kirsten
sub-si-quent
- Heleninstitches
suh
- Rachel Walden
suh
- Hedgehog
suh or seh
- Catherine Pellegrino
suh or seh
- Meg V. Meg
SUB-s@-qu@nt (where @ is a schwa aka standard "not-really-a-vowel" vowel on unstressed syllables)
- Deborah Fitchett
sub SEE quent for sure
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Never heard it any other way than SUB se quent
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Depends on the meter of the verse ;) I'm kind of into the aesthetics of prosody.
- Victor Ganata
sub-si-quent
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
suh
- Headless Gnad Kicker
LSW peeps - I'm officially, publicly keeping an eye out for associate/assistant director positions in medical libraries. In case you hear of anything spectacular coming open. :)
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Any geographic preferences?
- Meg V. Meg
Only vague ones - south of Maine, ideally not AZ/NM/TX (heat), anywhere west of Missouri but not on the west coast is iffy due to lack of familiarity, but not completely out of the running. In the southeast, south of about Atlanta/Birmingham, I'd like to be near the coast. Uh, so maybe those aren't so vague after all. :) But no strong preferences.
- Rachel Walden
Oh that would be awesome if you could come to welch. I don't know what's open but I think they're delaying hiring until the new director is hired in case he/she wants to change/ reorganize things
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
(welch side note: I'm very interested to see what happens there with a new director, out of pure curiosity)
- Rachel Walden
Go, Rachel!
- Marie
Thanks, Marie!
- Rachel Walden
What's the most polite verb combo for turning down a non-OA writing gig? "Cannot" is untrue. "Will not" sounds petulant. "Choose not to" sounds entitled.
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(ok, maybe not POLITE, but...meh)
- ellbeecee
Maybe expressing as a positive? "I only write for open-access publications" or similar. Leaves the door open to "hey, we're gonna release this OA!"
- RepoRat
"I would prefer not to."
- Stephen le Francoeur
can you work "committed"/"commitment" in there somehow? "I am committed to writing only for open-access publications"?
- Catherine Pellegrino
or just "don't": "I don't write for publications that don't permit some degree of open access."
- Catherine Pellegrino
Yeah, I think it's some form of "I have committed to... and therefore am currently unable to..." with a side of "if X implements a more OA-friendly blah blah, I'd be happy to reconsider" (if that's true)
- Rachel Walden
I think RR gets it in one, although you might want to add "articles" to that--"I only write articles for open access journals." Or what Catherine says (but do you feel the same about books?)
- Walt Crawford
*regrets making Bartleby the Scrivener allusion, which sank like a lead ballon*
- Stephen le Francoeur
I liked it, Stephen.
- Meg V. Meg
"i have committed to only write/review/sit on editorial boards of open access publications" is my standard line.
- jambina
MWAH MWAH MWAH you guys are the best.
- Meg V. Meg
Unfortunately, I am not able to accept this post/position at this time. Blah, blah, blah.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
though i have to say, i like lbc's - something like SUKKIT! OA4LIFE!
- jambina
I just sent one of those today for an invitation to write something for a T&F encyclopedia of our profession. I wrote "I have pledged to only publish in open access venues in so far as it is possible, and so I am declining this invitation. Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic."
- barbara fister
Crabby, much?
- barbara fister
I'm kind of in favor of making T&F's life less pleasant, as well as those who continue to donate labor to T&F. If that makes me crabby, I'm in damn good company!
- RepoRat
i love you barbara fister
- jambina
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Andy
While I appreciate the offer, at present blah blah blah--see my blog post commitment etc etc. :)
- Hedgehog
Claim to be too busy.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
After reading more of the thread--Yes, do tell them that you would do it if they were OA, or allowed for immediate green OA copies.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
In other news, I am on a library advisory board for CRC Library Advistory Board for this summer meeting. I think I will have some things to say about the T&F MotherShip policies.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Need to figure out how to use the line "Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic" somewhere.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Oh yes, this was almost a year ago, I have long since responded :)
- Meg V. Meg
This is the money quote: "Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic" thank you
- awd
Ahhh, that BF revived it with her money quote.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Oh, how funny! I didn't realize I'm joining a conversation started LAST May. How'd that happen?
- barbara fister
Argh, there's a Wikipedia article I promised to improve for someone a couple of months ago....
- Deborah Fitchett
It accidentally got bumped because I linked to it in the new thread about the OA TandF issue (http://ff.im/1ffYLP) because this old thread was where I had asked you guys how to respond when they asked me to write something for that very issue.
- Meg V. Meg
Well I'm glad it did, because it was fun to share my off-the-cuff email that was sent just this morning. Love me some serendipity.
- barbara fister
I don't mind chiming in on an old thread... I'd include the phrase "in good conscience" ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
(I missed this one the first time :) Just reinforces why I want to be BF when I grow up )
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
Do y'all get students/patrons hanging out in the stairwells? We have a handful who prefer to study on the landings on the old side of the building (bigger stairwells than on newer side), and I don't recall seeing that anywhere else I've worked.
...not unless they're talking on their cellphones, nope. Not a thing here.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Yes, it's annoying. They sit on the stairs and talk on the phone and block things up. I'm not above telling them to find another spot.
- kaijsa
It's a favored phone-talking spot in our library, too, which is odd because the stairwells broadcast the conversations to all surrounding floors.
- lris
On the phone, definitely.
- Rachel Walden
yes. and the hall. and we totally get the broadcasting as well. usually in swiss german.
- kendrak
Huh. Our aren't on the phone--they're camped out with their books and laptops, studying. The phone-talkers all just go to a "group" study area (where talking's allowed) or they hang out in the bathrooms.
- Kirsten
Who here will supply me with soothing getting-prepped-for-a-conference thoughts?
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Your audience wants you to rock out, kick butt, and take names. :)
- RepoRat
you are there to share what you know with folks who are interested in what you have to say. you will rock it.
- jambina
You know at least as much as the audience (please grok that you know more about your topic than the aggregate of the audience) and they are attending to hear you and learn more about it. *strength*
- awd
Thanks, all!
- Rachel Walden
I always find this article very soothing when I read it shortly before giving a presentation. Especially the last paragraph. I take away from it: do your best. It will probably be really good. Sometimes it isn't: that's ok too. http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article...
- Heather Piwowar
"You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You."
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I'm reading responses to Rachel as applying equally for me (leaving tomorrow for Or/Wa Lib Assoc, three speeches over three days). Thanks, Rachel: Sure you'll do fine.
- Walt Crawford
It'll be dark, they'll be drunk.
- Steele Lawman
Thanks again, and Heather for the link.
- Rachel Walden
it will be fun.
- barbara fister
I once dropped the microphone battery pack down my skirt and had to fish it out again and no-one seemed to mind.
- Deborah Fitchett
that would not be fun, but it's good to know nobody minds.
- barbara fister
What is the thing at your job that you are best at and proudest of?
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I'm usually fearless about trying new things; technology, services, programs, etc. The worst that can happen is failure, but there is always a lesson in that too.
- Running Slow
I guess... doing stuff that's a bit different. And acting on equal terms with academics.
- Pete #TeamMonique
The varied ways my students are using things I taught them to change the world and the profession for the better.
- RepoRat
I am exceptionally good at talking to--or rather listening to--patrons with mental health problems. Your delusional, your anxious, your paranoid--bring them to me, give me some time, and we won't have to call the cops.
- laura x
Helping a wide array of people learn a wide array of things.
- Marianne
Running classes that are more spontaneous and conversational rather than overly-scripted.
- Steele Lawman
Getting things done.
- SteVe C
I am really good at translating concepts into, and out of, the language of science/technology/computers. So I love to do research consultations about, like, the polar equations of Gothic cathedral windows, or analog methods of systematically capturing human movement, when people are like, "You are the first person who understands what I'm talking about, and does not think I am crazy."
- Meg V. Meg
I'm really good at being a liaison from my library to departments and groups on campus where no conversations are happening at all (but should be), especially making that essential first attempt at outreach.
- Lily
I'm really good at getting the babies to laugh
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
That I am respected and my projects and ideas are given the green light more often than not.
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Being a change agent and helping staff push the envelope on service to children.
- Marge LW
Giving people confidence.
- Andy
Reference. Not just finding stuff, but connecting with patrons on an individual basis.
- maʀtha
Conceptualizing new spaces, managing projects, and wearing heels.
- Kathy
I like our anarchist organizational style. I'm good at anarchy and mutual aid.
- barbara fister
I...am really not sure. I'm good at lots of things, but best at? I have no idea. I'll have to think about this.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Figuring out doable solutions to problems and talking people into mascot costumes.
- Heather
Connecting and working with people who don't seem to know all of the resources available to them and making them comfortable in using them.
- Derrick
product and process design for transportation vertical :)-
- Peter Dawson
Been informed about what the rest of the library world is doing and bringing in new stuff which succeeds more often than not. I am particularly proud of the chat reference service, I know other libraries has had it for a decade but still proud of managing to get it adopted widely here and the compliments it brings in daily.
- aarontay
Containing the damage from intra-staff blood feuds.
- Mark Kille
I try really hard to support my colleagues, especially newer folks, and I think/hope they find it beneficial. I'm a good project manager, too.
- Rachel Walden
I put together meaningful worship services and preach good sermons (usually).
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Hard to say. I *am* pretty awesome.
- Chris Z.
translating between arcane library jargon and human patron language (i.e., LCSH to "tags")
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
organizing internal documentation and working with vendors. They drive everyone else crazy, but I've come to find a certain amount of zen with them all (random hair-tearing events aside).
- MontglaneChess
Being a partner with staff to provide efficient and effective solutions, and accomplish goals. Other than that... knowing how to install an operating system onto any kind of computer?
- Julian
Pushing information to faculty who had no idea that the information existed, or that anyone cared that it existed.
- Larry Schwartz
Building relationships with faculty; seeing across library silos to where we can make improvements in services or communications
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Designing assessments that prepare students for the real world AND teach them how to think critically and express themselves in academic discourse AND have very clear expectations AND are easy to submit and to mark.
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
Wow. I want to do all of this ^^^^
- maʀtha
JoVE Update: 1. The JoVE rep is contacting UConn faculty falsely saying that I am conducting an evaluation of JoVE and that faculty feedback is needed to help complete this evaluation. The rep names me as the faculty member's librarian even though such correspondence typically (but not always) occurs between faculty and subject librarians.
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2. If UConn were to subscribe to all of JoVE for more than $25,000 per year, JoVE will *not* waive researcher publication fees ($2,400 for subscription accessible publications or $4,200 for an open access publication).
- Galadriel C.
Wow. I just...what the hell is going on with them, that their sales reps behave this way?
- Kirsten
wtf?
- Sir Shuping is just sir
seconding that WTF. I'm so glad they're completely out of our price range.
- Catherine Pellegrino
whoa. NO.
- Jenica
jove has a history of some really pushy salesmen lemme see if I can dig up a link- there was one really obnoxious example but i think that particular salesman got canned.
- Christina Pikas
It should be noted that the above e-mail was sent to the faculty *before* I received and began "evaluating" JoVE's most recent quote.
- Galadriel C.
Further correspondence with JoVE --- Me: "Additionally, please know that I completely understand that JoVE relies on subscription revenue and that acquiring new subscriptions is integral to your work. As such I know that it is part of JoVE’s practice to contact faculty and ask them to recommend JoVE to their institutions library; I received a message from a faculty member who had been...
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- Galadriel C.
JoVE: "In regards to our contact with the faculty, we reach out to them because we know the value of their feedback in the evaluation process and want to help by answering any questions or gaining that feedback. Thank you for sharing that feedback on this manner not carrying as much weight with you - that is helpful information. What would be the most useful to you when evaluating a new resource? How am I able to help you with this evaluation process?"
- Galadriel C.
Creeps.
- RepoRat
oh, i guess you've seen it then: http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2012...
- Christina Pikas
In self-defense, I suggest you make your chain of command aware of this little contretemps. Wouldn't put it past JoVE to try to smear you.
- RepoRat
Me: "As for feedback from faculty, yes we do value their feedback greatly when considering resources that will best support their teaching and research. However, when this feedback is solicited from JoVE under the false pretenses that I am actively conducting an evaluation of JoVE and actively seeking feedback from faculty (see attached), then we cannot consider this legitimate. "
- Galadriel C.
@Repo - Thank you and done! I sent a message to my supervisor and the Vice Provost of Libraries yesterday after I received the forwarded e-mail from a faculty that included JoVE's e-mail illustrated above.
- Galadriel C.
*joins the Galadriel C fan club*
- Marie
"Your librarian is looking for feedback from you. She just doesn't know it. To rectify that situation, we are enlisting you as our unpaid sales team. Thanks, Prof!"
- barbara fister
JoVE isn't the only one to do this. I have several vendors who contact my business faculty without asking/informing me. Then I get the joyful task of telling them that they don't have any money to spend on the fabulous product they were just shown.
- ~Courtney F
Oh, it doesn't surprise me when vendors do that. It's the part where JoVE told the faculty that a trial was underway, which was *cough* not entirely accurate, that is the problem.
- DJF
I have good business relationships with many vendors who make a point of *not* contacting faculty though I think our business librarian's experience may by similar to Courtney's with certain venders. JoVE is just an excellent example of how not to endear libraries to your product.
- Galadriel C.
It's frightening the number of emails I get from JoVE. I got one today, in fact. They also tend to call very regularly. Although I don't recall the sneak around behind my back thing before. Maybe I should watch for that one and especially warn our life science librarians.
- John Dupuis
What subject area is it? I mean, I know I'm a CHMINF-L fangirl, but if I were you, I'd post it there (or I'm happy to do so), because that's where they got in trouble last time (and their rep actually responded), and people will remember.
- Meg V. Meg
It makes me mad when they try to make the faculty end-run on things, but their false statements really pushes this over the edge for me. I mean, they could expect a response like, "We make it a policy not to do business with vendors we catch lying to faculty."
- Rachel Walden
JoVE's subject areas include biology, medicine, and chemistry. I'm going to work with subject librarians to 1. post to subject-specific lists that I'm not on and 2. warn faculty in their subject areas. However, if anyone here wants to post on lists of their choice about this, please do so!
- Galadriel C.
I told my head of CollDev about this in a meeting this morning--she mentioned that they have a library advisory board due to last round of kerfluffles. Any idea who sits on that where we might strategically forward this email?
- Hedgehog
Excellent idea Hedgehog - Here's the roster of advisory board members: http://www.jove.com/about.... I recognize names, but do not know anyone personally; perhaps I will send a note to all of them.
- Galadriel C.
Silver Lining: Just received a note from a faculty member that JoVE contacted - "At least, I’m glad that I had an opportunity to communicate with you and learned some about the library system from you (and an example of bad sales tactics). Thank you very much for your time and warm and thoughtful responses."
- Galadriel C.
win!
- maʀtha
also, @JoVE: EWWW!
- maʀtha
Galadriel, have you talked to Nicholas about this? I hear him in my head saying "by JoVE!" (which you've probably heard already, but still: heh)
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Galadriel: right, I wasn't sure if they were pushing a particular product, or the whole suite. Christina: not canned.
- Meg V. Meg
Meg: Ah, got it! From what I can tell, they are contacting faculty members with links to specific videos/articles. However, the quote that they sent me shows the cost for everything along with breakdowns for each section as a stand alone (general, neuroscience, immunology and infection, clinical and translation medicine, bioengineering, applied physics, chemistry).
- Galadriel C.
I would contact the advisory board with concerns. My take on JoVE is that they don't seem to understand the academic library political arena very well, and are thinking more like a business start-up, where I'm sure the more aggressive tactics would be OK.
- Elizabeth Brown
Looks like JoVE will be an exhibitor at the Medical Library Association meeting in a couple of weeks.
- Rachel Walden
I guess I can cross "cry in front of superiors" off my list for the day.
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:( *hugs*
- Sir Shuping is just sir
((hugs))
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Oof. *hugs lris some more*
- Marianne
Ugh.
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
sorry
- Rachel Walden
Hugs. Sorry :(
- Hedgehog
*hugs*
- Kirsten
Blergh. Hugs
- maʀtha
Oof, sorry my friend. Certainly have been there.
- Derrick
*sends a ray of sunshine to light the rest of the day*
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
If you drink coffee, when did you start?
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Hmm. Probably around... 16
- Pete #TeamMonique
University, I think. With cream and sugar. Then a couple of years after university I cut out the sugar, then a couple of years ago, I started drinking it black.
- DJF
16, but I only drank it at Denny's or at my friend Lucy's house.
- Meg V. Meg
usually whenever I wake up
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
The summer between jr and sr years of high school, while I was attending the University of Iowa Journalism Workshop. NoDoz followed close after.
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
14 cuz I thought I was fuckin cool, man
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
from BuddyFeed
Maybe 1978. Still in HS. Instant but no microwave. Boiled water.
- Mike Nencetti
from iPhone
Usually about 11PM when I have to get up for work.
- Uli - Sent to Coventry
I started sometime around 1998 (there would be an occasional cup before then, but not regularly) - or at least that's when I remember starting to drink it regularly. I would have been around 25? That would have been the time when many workdays involved a 2 hour interstate drive before arriving where I'd be working that day.
- ellbeecee
I was 18 and I was at a Vietnam war protest outside the White House and it was REALLY cold and someone handed me a warm, milky, sugary cup of coffee....mmmm. Converted instantly.
- barbara fister
oh gosh, when I was a kid I was always snitching it from my dad's cup, so I got the taste early. started drinking it regularly in high school, probably?
- holly #ravingfangirl
College. When I was in high school, I used to get really good flavored hot chocolate from a coffee bar all the time. When I went away to college, I couldn't do that anymore, because the flavored syrups at my college coffee bar would curdle the milk in the hot chocolate; so they told me I should order a mocha instead. From then on, I was hooked. Mochas all the time, and straight (no...
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- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
College. I don't drink it every day, but I take spells where I drink it got a few weeks at a time.
- Jed Harris-Keith
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College. I blame Cafe Nica, also working long hours at my parents inn. Also, Sarah's four-cup Krupps machine
- maʀtha
not when I worked at the iowa city coffee shop in college :) I started when I went back to school, and was working at a food coop. 6am grains shifts= los of coffee!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
from YouFeed
College. Mr. 13 started probably around age 8.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I usually start about 8:30 am.
- Running Slow
Forever, I think, but certainly by seventh or eighth grade. Learned to drink it black in tenth grade. Thanks to the proliferation of mochas and lattes in the last two decades-plus. Both kids started drinking those very early. Sarah's still a coffee drinker, but at 17, Jojo has graduated to preferring tea most of the time.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
BTW, I am drinking the first cup of coffee produced from grounds from Sarah's new burr grinder. Yum!
- maʀtha
In college. From sophomore through senior year, many of us in my 10AM acting class would go and get coffee after class at "Jitters," the coffee cart in the student center.
- Steele Lawman
Between Jr/Sr year at college. Worked as a camp counselor. Counselors could have coffee instead of milk with breakfast. After learning to drink that sludge, all other coffee tasted great.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
11yo. In the mountains of the Philippines (a 12 hr hike from the 'road' into the village). The beans and sugar were grown there, in a clearing. I helped pound the cane and the roasted beans, then we brewed and drank. I was hooked. Got back to US and promptly quit. Till I worked at the Copacetic Cafe when I was 18.
- Lnorigb
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Sophomore year in high school, so 14-15. This is when I started getting into the habit of pulling all-nighters.
- Victor Ganata
My mom used to make us "kids coffee", warm milk with honey & a splash of coffee. But I started drinking it for real when I was 26.
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
Until reading this thread, I'd been amazed at the number of high-schoolers buying coffee drinks, but I see now it's nothing new!
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
I started in college. And I drink it about as often as I did then - 2 or 3 times a year, maybe?
- Marianne
Probably in Berkeley/college. I drank a *lot* more coffee then than I would ever do now.
- Walt Crawford
17 when I started working in a newsroom
- jambina
Sometime in college.
- John (bird whisperer)
Casually, when I was about 15. Became an every day drinker when I was 19.
- Kelli H.
Grad school
- lris
College, but only rarely. Maybe a half dozen times a year.
- Derrick
I don't drink it regularly, but mid-high school.
- Jennifer Dittrich
from FFHound!
As a habit, maybe 25 or 27.
- Andrew C (✓)
from Android
If you count powered, flavoured coffee mixes (of which I now cringe at the thought), then probably age 10 or so. With my milk allergy, hot chocolate was forbidden fruit, so I tried the "coffee" my mom liked at the time. Real coffee? University (age 18).
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
I tried it once when I was 14 and again maybe in my 40s ...still hate it and tea too.
- VALZ/TEAM TRAVIS
My dad did mix me up some very milky sweet stuff once in awhile when I was younger.
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
I want to say 17ish/college
- Rachel Walden
14.
- Steven Perez
around 30
- MiniMage
Junior or senior year of college, I decided it was time to learn, so I started making hot cocoa with coffee instead of hot water, then used less and less cocoa. (I think Barbara wins the street cred award.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
from iPod
Around 18
- Iván Abrego
12 years old, but only when I get tired or after a big meal.
- Eric
10 I think? I'd drink weak coffee in hot cocoa. In college I got down to drinking it black; now I'm back to cream.
- Hedgehog
My first 10 years after college were in an auto plant where coffee was social currency. You wanted to talk to a skilled tradesperson about a job? You bought it him/her a cup of coffee. You wanted to settle a dispute? You did it over coffee. You wanted host a meeting? You had better have coffee. After a while, I just got tired of just holding it and started drinking it. Now it's my reason for living.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
I didn't start until I was 29! My bf at the time gave me my first mocha... Damn him! Couldn't stand the stuff before, now I can't live without it!
- Yvonne
Freshman year of college. Thought I had to, but didn't like it. Fell in love with coffee around 25 when my girlfriend was into home roasting and using a french press.
- Royce's favorite Anna
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As much as I hate to even look at the Annoyed Librarian, much less react, what the actual fuck? "Perhaps the Racine librarians are just that sexy, in which case he could argue that it was instead their fault."
Is it referencing that dentist who fired his assistant of ten years for "being too sexy"?
- Betsy #TeamMonique
When people stop reading/reacting to the tamer stuff, the provocateur has to become even more outrageous. Ignore, ignore, ignore.
- Steele Lawman
Increasingly, it seems as though the team that calls itself Annoyed Librarian has both sensible and crazed members. Easiest to ignore all of them.
- Walt Crawford
Yup, that's why I just vent this here instead of linking or commenting there.
- Rachel Walden
I could drop a note to LJ editordom. Worth doing?
- RepoRat
I'll go out on a limb and say that's satire. And what Steve said.
- Andy
Andy, it's not an unreasonable assumption that it's satire. When the the whole thing is jokey ways dude could get back into a library to further harass women, in a culture where women constantly get blamed for various forms of unwanted attention, though, it's bullshit as satire. More like, "describing our lives."
- Rachel Walden
I've got a high tolerance for satire, and an equally high sensitivity to rape-is-funny bullshit. I call bullshit over satire on this one.
- Jenica
Well said, Rachel.
- maʀtha
Please don't confuse me saying "I think this is satire" for "I think it is funny", "I think it is in good taste", or "I am defending this writing."
- Andy
Oh, no, Andy, I get that. I just... I can't. :/
- Jenica
Well, for a moment there, I found myself surrounded by social landmines. I just needed to back up a bit.
- Andy
<taunt> penis-have-er. </taunt>
- Jenica
Andy, further to Rachel's comment about describing women's lives, here's a sample of the Internet's reaction to a rape conviction: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post...
- DJF
from Android
Apparently, the landmines are now following me out of the field.
- Andy
In which my thought is the same as Jenica's: "Oh, no, Andy, I get that. I just... I can't. :/"
- Rachel Walden
A guy in Racine was in front of a judge for masturbating publicly in the library. Judge said "you are forbidden from going into libraries. ALL libraries everywhere in the world." Haven't read the piece in question and now plan never ever to do so. That's just so not funny.
- barbara fister
Coming on the heels of CNN's reporting of the athletes whose lives have been ruined by a conviction (not for having actually raped... no, being caught) - really no possibility of making this funny.
- barbara fister
CNN's reporting + some of the tweets out there...just...no.
- Yvonne
Oh God. I realize this is devolving away from the original post, but I just read that publicshaming post on Steubenville and my soul just broke a little bit. How can we change this kind of thinking?
- Laura Krier
ACK! I should never have kept reading more of that site. So much badness!!!
- Laura Krier
Does anyone want to work with me on a guest-blogging project on my blog? There are people asking for more cover letter guidance, a la "HOW do I do what you said to do?" and I'd like to do a few test exercises with other librarians.
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I'm thinking of writing a decent but generic job ad, and then having a couple librarians write their cover letter for it, with each person highlighting their approach to creating a good letter for the job.
- Jenica
I'd be up for that. I'm working on improving my skills on that anyway
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Oooh! Sure! *raises hand*
- LB: #TeamMonique
If you're interested, please email me at the gmails, jenicaprogers. If you have a different tactic you think I should use, let me know here. :)
- Jenica
I'd volunteer but I'm afraid my letter would be deemed crappy!
- Rachel Walden
I love writing cover letters. I will gmail.
- Meg V. Meg
wow. will you write mine if I ever need one again?
- RepoRat
I also like to write cover letters, but I also fear of the "deem crappy" monster attacking said letter.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I am in... and I'll be happy to write a "good" one and a "bad" one and then explain the rubric I would follow to evaluate them
- awd
d'oh I did not read all the instructions
- awd
You could make it a series with a roundup at the end?
- awd
COVER LETTER CAGE MATCH
- Meg V. Meg
I think we need a video of cover letter cage match. it woud be awesome
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I'll give it a whirl.
- Royce's favorite Anna
if you'd like PL perspective, let me know, I'd be happy to help.
- Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
Gonna tackle this later this week. FYI!
- Jenica
I took the empathy quotient survey inside 23 and Me. I thought I was actually being somewhat generous with myself as I answered. My score was...low.
? Explain more? I'm not familiar with 23 and Me?
- Soup in a TARDIS
I am familiar with it, but cannot figure how it relates to empathy.
- Meg V. Meg
23 and Me does genetic testing for medical and heredity data. As part of their website, they have user surveys to feed research, on a range of topics. Many are about more "medical" information, but one happened to be an "empathy quotient" instrument.
- Rachel Walden
Odd.
- Meg V. Meg
There’s Finally A Tablet Made Just For Women Because Those iThingies Are So Darn Confusing – Consumerist - http://consumerist.com/2013...
ePad Femme. Wait, this is real?
- Betsy #TeamMonique
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Does it come with tampons or something?
- maʀtha
There won't be any math or science apps I assume.
- Blake
It haz wings?
- Uli - Sent to Coventry
^^^
- Betsy #TeamMonique
Dear Eurostar: http://www.reactiongifs.com/dolly-f...
- Rachel Walden
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. How utterly insulting.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
No.
- Katy S
Wow
- MoTO #TeamMonique
*retch*
- Ruth Kneale
Herewith is the big list of real skeuomorphs:
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A "button" on a web site that you can press.
- Stephen le Francoeur
The shutter click on my camera phone.
- Stephen le Francoeur
The wood grain sticker on top of particle board.
- Stephen le Francoeur
"save" icons that look like a floppy
- Rachel Walden
Have you seen skeu.it? They like to point out where skeuomorphic design choices actively work against usability, in a delightfully snarky way: http://skeu.it/post...
- Amandadon't
I hadn't seen skeu.it and am so glad that I did. Awesome.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Last threadjack, I promise: http://skeu.it/post...
- Amandadon't
Nice, hadn't seen that!
- Rachel Walden
skeu.it is great (altho' I might disagree at times), but the shutter click is an interesting one. Don't you want some audible confirmation, for yourself and your subject, that the picture's actually been taken? Is there some harm in it being a relatively familiar sound? I guess I'd be more concerned when it actually *degrades* usability, although others may be amusing.
- Walt Crawford
My tablet stylus looks like a pen, with fake clip-and-clicky-thing at top. (Though I s'pose the clip is useful.)
- Amandadon't
I think the interesting thing about phone cameras is that sometimes you want an audible notification and sometimes not. (Which sounds creepier than I mean it to, I just want a silent camera to take pictures of my sleeping cats, I promise.) The digital should give you the option, at least.
- Amandadon't
A skeuomorph is not good or bad in and of itself. So the shutter click is just funny because it sounds like a shutter click/automatic film advance, when it could sound like anything. I think they are most interesting when they are so effective that you don't notice them until someone points them out.
- Steele Lawman
And my favorite one is the Kindle app (I think) for the iPad where when you "turn" a "page" that would be "blank" on the "verso," you can faintly see the words from the "recto" backwards, as if you were to hold a sheet up to the light. Totally brilliant.
- Steele Lawman
The SKitchen jumps onto the skeumorphic bandwagaon. http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013...
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I think it is stretching things to the breaking point to call Green OA a "skeuomorph."
- Steele Lawman
Maybe it's more of a a skeeeeeeeeeeeuuuooooooo--------------------------mmmmmmooooooooppppphhhhh.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Left a comment on the blog. Asked him to clarify the sentence that doesn't make much sense.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I think some skeuomorphs can be...comforting to digital newbies (or oldies), like the shutter click. Funny that this is the convo thread, because I just showed a very, very elderly gentleman how to find the Save icon (floppy!) in Word 2010. I think even the floppy was way beyond him.
- Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
Would he have preferred an icon of a reel of tape?
- Stephen le Francoeur
A life saver? A piggy bank?
- Steele Lawman
Farewell, Mr. Miles - http://womenshealthnews.wordpress.com/2013...
Aw. I'm sorry. What a great cat.
- RepoRat
**hugs**
- Kirsten
RIP, Mr. Miles. Big hugs to you, Rachel.
- laura x
*hugs* He sounds like a wonderful cat to have known
- Hedgehog
Oh, I'm sorry, Rachel. What a lovely cat.
- Catherine Pellegrino
*hug* I'm so sorry
- Soup in a TARDIS
*hugs*
- Katy S
Oh Rachel, I am so sorry for your loss. Mr. Miles sounds like quite a wonderful man.
- Janet:#TeamMonique
I'm so sorry for your loss. He sounds like a good egg (and a fetcher! FETCHERS ARE THE BEST)
- Meg V. Meg
oh no! I'm so sorry!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Thank you all, I appreciate your kind thoughts.
- Rachel Walden
I just don't think describing any product with the adjective "fishy" is attractive, even if the product is fish.
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Describing fish as "fishy" makes me think it's going to give me vibrio or scombroid.
- Victor Ganata
Except maybe fish bait or something. Which wouldn't be a good descriptor, but "FishyBait!" wouldn't make me as suspicious.
- Rachel Walden
You don't want fish to smell fishy. You want fish to smell of the sea. If fish smell fishy, then they're not fresh
- Johnny
Is the enter key on a computer keyboard a skeuomorph? Or is it a vestige?
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If it says "return" it's a vestige.
- Steele Lawman
what if it says both?
- ~Courtney F
Then it is redundant. :)
- Steele Lawman
More seriously, the way I understand "skeuomorph" is that it is something that is functionally `unnecessary, but the presence of which seeks to make the user more comfortable by evoking an analogous earlier technology. So, for example, if your word processor emitted a chime every time you came to the end of the line in order to make typewriter users feel more comfortable, I think that...
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- Steele Lawman
I would pay $100 for a carriage return lever on my notebook computer. That would be awesome.
- Stephen le Francoeur
If the display moved from right to left while you were typing? And when it went as far as it could to the left it would ring a real bell and you had to shove it back over to the right to type more?
- Steele Lawman
Could get this. http://www.usbtypewriter.com/
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
It would have to make that zip sound when you shoved it back over to the right, too.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Joe, you've restored my faith in humanity.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Holy crap, Joe. I have an Underwood Portable, much like the one shown here: http://cdn.shopify.com/s... I may just have to do this.
- Steele Lawman
I... wonder if my parents still have that ancient Olympia I used to use. That thing was a beast.
- RepoRat
I remember using an old manual typewriter from god knows when and an electric one that was my mom's in college (early 60s). But my fondest memories are of the fancy IBM Selectric I got upgraded to in my first job out of college; it had a little LCD screen that showed a line or two of text and it had memory in it so that you could crank out templates and form letters. None of us had PCs yet and we thought we were the shit with our Selectrics (daisy wheel FTW!)
- Stephen le Francoeur
i grew up using Selectrics. such fond memories.
- holly #ravingfangirl
Mine says Enter, and I'd say it's neither a skeuomorph or a vestige. What would you suggest in place of the Enter key to say "I'm done with this, Enter it"? Typewriters didn't have Enter keys--and unless there's an open doorway on the key, it's not at all a skeuomorph.
- Walt Crawford
Oh, it was a the IBM Wheelwriter, not the Selectric. Something like this: http://www.etypewriters.com/ww25ii...
- Stephen le Francoeur
Are there computer keyboards anywhere that say "Return?"
- Stephen le Francoeur
I know that until he was at least 95 my father had an ancient Royal with glass or plexiglass sides. That was a wonder. (As soon as I could afford one, I got a used electric that was apparently designed for special purposes, as it had a 14" carriage--but it was cheap.)
- Walt Crawford
When I was going through the archives of the NYPL, I found dozens of letters written each week by the head of the Jewish Division in the 1940s and 1950s where he had clearly removed the letter from his Latin character typewriter and put it into his Hebrew typewriter to get a word or two in mid-sentence. The volume of letters that guy cranked out to people from around the world asking for essentially reader's advisory help was amazing.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Macs and Apples have always said return (though now they also say Enter, like Courtney's).
- Steele Lawman
I want my "Enter" key to say "Speak Friend" as a lousy Fellowship of the Ring joke.
- Steele Lawman
Return is, in fact, a vestige, since that's not what the key does. Did they say Shift Lock instead of Caps Lock as well?
- Walt Crawford
Walt and I agree. Woot.
- Steele Lawman
My keyboard does say "Shift," which when you think about it is a vestige, too.
- Stephen le Francoeur
And my Option keys also say "Alt," a nice nod to those used to inferior technology.
- Steele Lawman
I keep pressing the Tab key but no soda ever shows up. #shamelessSimpsonsjoketheft
- Stephen le Francoeur
But Return/Enter does typically send the cursor to the beginning of the next line.
- Victor Ganata
This iPad says return.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Pressing Enter to start a new line does not say "I'm done with this, enter it"; in any modern system, text is entered upon pressing any key. Is it a vestige of DOS and other console-based OS's?
- JffKrlsn
That's interesting, because the Enter key is now pretty context-specific. Sometimes it is functionally a "carriage return" starting a new line and returning the cursor to the left-most part of the new line. Sometimes it means more "I am done with this, now act on it." And sometimes I get messed up when I can't remember how it will act in a certain context. In a facebook comment, it's the carriage return, but in FriendFeed it's the "I'm done" key--or is it vice-versa. *presses Enter*
- Steele Lawman
Mine's a vestige, but that's because it has a little T-Rex arm on it instead of a word.
- Jason P
It still sends the cursor to the beginning of the next line in certain contexts even in these new days.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
I love this whole thread.
- laura x
JffK: You confuse "I want this letter to appear on the screen" with "I'm done with this." Enter frequently (not always) means the latter--e.g., beginning searches in most search engines, going to the next field in many forms, etc., etc. And, as Steve demonstrated, saying "I'm done with this Friendfeed comment for now." And what Laura sez.
- Walt Crawford
The fact (is that true?) that Enter does NOT complete a comment in Facebook says a lot about Facebook. Odd that they didn't get this right in learning from the Friendfeed acquisition.
- Walt Crawford
I don't know that Enter completing/posting a Facebook item is objectively "right" - sometimes the "carriage return"/break/paragraph option is needed, and there's not another obvious way to do it (while there *is* another obvious way to post items).
- Rachel Walden
Walt, you can change that setting in Facebook
- ~Courtney F
Friendfeed seems to be the outlier. Facebook, Twitter, Google+, and Tumblr all treat Enter/Return as newline/carriage (or perhaps cursor) return.
- Victor Ganata
Hmm. Actually, in FB, Twitter, and G+, "it depends." For an *action*--searching, for example, Enter begins the action. For *text*, it seems to act as a paragraph break. (As an old-line Word/Windows user, I'm used to thinking of Ctrl-Enter as the line break mechanism, but that's certainly not typical.)
- Walt Crawford
And we wonder why explaining computers to novice users is hard....
- laura x
This gets more interesting. I just commented on somebody else's post on Facebook (sigh: some "Tribal Unity" group accusing Charles Schultz of racism by grotesquely misreading a cartoon)...and, look at that, when I hit Enter it Entered the comment. So: On your own post, it's a paragraph; on a comment, it's Enter. (Does this have something to do with the cough source cough of FB's comment handling?)
- Walt Crawford
Anyone have any experience/recommendations for creating an interactive timeline for a website? I feel like there should be some sort of tool that can help with this...
Amandadon't, Sir Shuping is just sir and Betsy #TeamMonique liked this
we have a history timeline. Let me see if I can find the link and send it to you
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
ah, here it is -- Did you mean something like this? http://www.tiki-toki.com/timelin...
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Yes!!
- Lisa Hinchliffe
Ooh, that's neat!
- Rachel Walden
Ours is http://libportal.nus.edu.sg/fronten... -click on timeline or flipboard etc. I heard thinking of changing.
- aarontay
Timeline JS is another I've heard about, beyond Dipity and TikTok. I think you can get deeper into hacking around with Timeline JS (but you don't have to): http://dirt.projectbamboo.org/resourc... .
- Amandadon't
This ProfHacker post this week couldn't be more "timely." http://chronicle.com/blogs...
- Stephen le Francoeur
I think one of you shared, in the last month or two, an online resource with guidance on creating MOOCs. I can't seem to turn it up again. Any recollection of the specific resource or suggestions for other items on this topic?
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Thursday bump in case anybody has anything.
- Rachel Walden
I checked my linklist http://pinboard.in/u:dsalo... but don't seem to have anything matching that description.
- RepoRat
Thanks for checking, though!
- Rachel Walden
It has come to my attention that Derrick is feeling a bit low. Show him some love, FriendFeed! #derrickisawesome
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Derrick is what awesome aspires to be
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Aw, y'all are too much. I'm a little...beat up right now, but I am trying to get my act together. Juggling chainsaws. And job hunting. Le sigh.
- Derrick
*tosses Mardi Gras beads at Derrick* We're here for you, boo!
- LB: #TeamMonique
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Lots of love, Derrick.
- Steele Lawman
We are pulling for you, D.
- Micah
Lacking beads myself I flash my boobs in your general direction Derrick.
- SteVe C
Thanks y'all. Seriously.
- Derrick
Sending all my love for D from Chi!
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Sending good thoughts to you Derrick!
- Galadriel C.
I love you, man. Hoping you find things a lil easier.
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
*hugs* Thinking about you, D!
- Anne Bouey
*nods* D
- Pete #TeamMonique
I look forward to the day I get to meet you in person. I suspect it will be lifetime highlight.
- Laura Krier
We love, you, D.
- laura x
Love, hugs, and hope from here too. *cuddles Derrick*
- Marianne
Derrick is awesome. That is all. :)
- Rachel Walden
I knew something was up... I felt a disturbance in the force
- t-ra: not givin up
group HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG! <3 <3 <3 xoxoxoxoxoxo
- barbara fister
We care about you.
- RepoRat
We *all* care, Derrick. You know that, right?
- Mama Lawson
I've never met you but it seems pretty clear that you are covered in awesome sauce. :0)
- Yvonne
Kick ass, take names, Derrick!
- Andy
Shovin' the lovin' your way! Best of luck with everything!
- Lily
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