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Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...
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Ahad Bokhari, Daniel Rowley, Chris Loft and 44 other people liked this
Good! I have got follows from more spam accounts the past couple weeks than I've ever gotten.
- Mike Bracco
I <3 FriendFeed Real-Time search - it lets me see Twitter Fail, as it happens
- Jesse Stay
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, here is the retweet from the SPAM account: RT @SPAM If someone you just KNOW isn't a spammer is suspended right now, their account is prob contaminated and we're fixing it.
- RAD Moose
I'm glad about the real spammos being zapped, but sure is odd they have to temporarily suspend bona fide accounts in droves!!! Thanks for staying on top of this Jesse. Where is Mashable when we need them?? Nothing from Pete et al yet...
- Mari Smith
Hopefully it will get rid of all those Kathy34982s and Elisa9867s
- Carlton Prest
they're suspending legit accts, but the bots and spammers aren't getting banned the way they need to.
- Dawn S. Lambe
I have gotten a lot of spam followers in the past few weeks.
- John (bird whisperer)
My account was suspended for some reason. Awhile ago I had some duplicate posts due to wayward drupal module however for some reason it was suspended in the last 4 hours. I was using twollow and was following "online marketing" so that I could learn more from people discussing online marketing. Could this have caused it? I sent in a support request so we will see what happens.
- Brian Kenyon
from iPod
FYI I'm going to update the post but that message from @spam is from May 30 - it appears that Twitter does not yet know about this one
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
I got suspended and I am not spam! A lot of good Tweets are getting suspended.
- Kimber Scott
Un-oh. Why do they say they are doing it?
- Francine Hardaway
4chan is currently to blame, they were trying to get on the top of trending topics (and succeeded)
- mjc
Michael, I'm wondering if it happened for some reason due to that. Maybe Twitter got trigger happy to kill the attack.
- Jesse Stay
Doesn't necessarily make sense. If the problem is the gorilla anatomy thing, wouldn't they just go after those accounts?
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
John, has Twitter ever made sense?
- Jesse Stay
"There seems to be a wave of suspensions going around Twitter today, and it’s turning quickly into an echo chamber of confusion and frustration. We’ve received several tips (the first one being from Mashable guest writer Matt Singley) that a range of users are being taken down, including some with large followings such as @marismith and the LA Times Top of the Ticket account." http://mashable.com/2009...
- Kimber Scott
Kimber, check out the comments on my post - you'll see there are many more. Also check out the real-time stream and you'll see people complain real-time.
- Jesse Stay
They suspend @marismith but not @GangbangGirl @cumcandy & @kellikanyon. That's rich
- Peggy Dolane
Yes, Jesse, I saw the stream and the other comments. My Twitter account is working again. Thank goodness.
- Kimber Scott
from email
I didn't get suspended. Glad in a way, but not sure I care about it. I don't bother with twitter much anymore. I'm mainly here on friendfeed now.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I like it here on FriendFeed. I like the features and the fact you can have a real conversation. Besides, I feel very distrustful of Twitter now.
- Kimber Scott
from email
Twitter has become a farm house for spammers
- Michael_techie
Atari: The Golden Years -- A History, 1978-1981 - http://www.gamasutra.com/view...
RAD Moose, Rob Sterling, Владимир and 75 other people liked this
holy wow, jeff! LOVE
- Mona Nomura
I loved mine. I miss it. Haunted House, Pac-Man, and Sea Quest were my favorites.
- Yolanda
i just recently hooked mine up to my 42 inch plasma with surround sound. its a whole new world! :) http://www.jeffisageek.net/blog...
- (jeff)isageek
Made a lot of money re-selling 'used' cartridges. Of course, I was just a kid ....
- Charlie Anzman
Oh man! Pictures!!
- Yolanda
Jeff, do you mess with any emulation, or are you strictly an old-school, real hardware kinda guy? :P
- Tim Hoeck
Erotic.
- Pete D
Tim yes im down with the emulation as well :) have an atari emulator on my pc and my cell phone.
- (jeff)isageek
I still have mine and about 12 games, and play them every so often. qbert and the tank game are my favorites
- clarke thomas
think i am gonna fire up galaga right now!
- (jeff)isageek
I have one of those in my closet right now. In the original box.
- Lindsay
You know the game I liked the most (but have lost :( ) - E.T. I loved the sound it made when he walked!
- Lindsay
Actually blogged about my old Atari a while ago, A Moment of Silence for Atari http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...
- Hutch Carpenter
I think we have one in my parent's basement...
- Mitchell Tsai
Pitfall, bitches.
- ::Kristen::
I want one.
- mjc
یادش بخیر... چقدر دوستش داشتم
- Emad
My cousin had one. I remember some of the games, but I have no idea what they're called. Brings back a bunch of memories...
- Vincent X
I rolled over Missile Command - that's OLD OLD school. :)
- Great Scott! Needs a Ham
Yars Revenge was my game of choice. I miss my old Atari.
- John Ford
Loved playing Home Run.
- Mike Reynolds
Will anybody admit to buying and playing the godawful E.T?!
- TDavid
@Abby that was Adventure in all its blocky castle glory, yup.
- TDavid
Used to love Adventure with the keys and dragons. I never had Asteroids but my friends did. Never quite got the hang of it. I would accelerate too much and end up zooming diagonally across the screen out of control.
- Barak B
I loved Pitfall Harry. And even broke the score where you can send in a picture of the screen and they'll give you a patch. but dang my mom, she wouldn't take a pic of the screen so no patch for me. It was devestating!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Remember "millions of E.T. Game cartridges to landfill" legend - SEE http://atari.digital-madman.com
- Micah
Read this whole thing and quoted it in my tumblelog. Good stuff.
- Phil Glockner
I was fearless in Air Sea Battle. Never understood why my Sears-oriented friend had weird names for his Atari games.
- Mike Reynolds
It seemed at the time that Activision had the best graphics.
- TDavid
ahh the atari 2600!
- (jeff)isageek
what a beautiful sight
- (jeff)isageek
wow, this popped back up from almost a year ago... dang! Do I have to start doing the E.T. noise again?
- Lindsay
I love classic games. I still have an original Nintendo to play Mario:)
- Rob Cairns
I still have an Atari but I haven't touched it in years. I'm not sure if it still works. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to hooking it up again.
- jenali
Wait a second the whole Amazon Kindle thing yesterday was ABOUT STOLEN property! That changes ALL the anti-Amazon arguments. More:
Marko Saric, RAD Moose, John Wang and 18 other people liked this
Those books were stolen property. Amazon had every right to delete them. Police will come into your house and take your TV if it was stolen.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Amazon had no right to sell those books to you in the first place.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Interesting to see who was anti-Arrington and anti-Amazon too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
If you are anti-arrington you must be pro Amazon today.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Chris: yeah.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The stolen TV analogy only goes so far since it was Amazon that was selling the stolen merchandise in the first place. I wonder how this has affected Kindle sales.
- Justin Doub
If a printing company illegally produced copies of your book, you could rightly expect the rights-holder to go after them and even demand that unsold copies be destroyed but they certainly wouldn't demand to burn all copies sold to customers. See my comments here: http://www.torgo.com/blog...
- Daniel Appelquist
You guys need to go to law school. If you buy stolen property from a store, you are the rightful owner of the goods. The police won't bother you.
- Ward Mundy
Ward: is that true? I always thought that receiving stolen goods would get them taken from you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
That's not to say Amazon wouldn't be liable for damages to the legitimate copyright holder. Just not the buyer in the ordinary course of business.
- Ward Mundy
I disagree. Amazon should have found a way to work it out with the publisher (i.e. write a check). You should NEVER do what Amazon did. Pull it from the store, don't sell any new copies, fine. Don't yank content from a consumer's device. Ever.
- Brian Baggett
Amazon is still at fault here, by the way. For selling something it didn't have the legal right to sell.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
We can all agree on that. :-)
- Ward Mundy
George Orwell is rolling over in his grave. http://nerdvittles.com
- Ward Mundy
Brian: I agree, and it looks like Amazon agrees now too but those arguments have less teeth today. By the way did you argue for or against TechCrunch publishing the stolen Twitter documents?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Amazon should have communicated to their customers before taking any action. Amazon = Fail
- paul mooney
Ward: Orwell has lots of reasons to roll over in his grave.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Paul: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Paul: I completely agree. Their actions caused uproar that could have been avoided by sending a clear message before preforming the pull.
- Joshua
Amen, Big Bro.
- Ward Mundy
Seeing the Twitter docs pop up over at Techcrunch felt ... "dirty". Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
- Brian Baggett
Brian: lots of journalism is done with stolen info.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
It depends upon where you purchased the stolen goods.
- Ward Mundy
Ward: even from a second hand store?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Absolutely Brian, starting to read that I felt as if I were a part of some sort of espionage... I stopped reading. I think I may be done with Arrington/TechCrunch... :(
- Trae Ruge
The real root of the anti-Amazon, anti-whoever, sentiment is that we all know copyright is broken and that these books SHOULD be free.
- tollie williams
If the store is in the business of selling the type of goods you buy, then you are a buyer in the ordinary course and are protected.
- Ward Mundy
Yeah, I realize that. The difference is when it's something like Watergate or exposing massive corporate fraud, that's one thing ... when it's exposing the inner thoughts of a company that's yet to make a dime ... it just seems senseless. Know what I mean?
- Brian Baggett
Not to be pedantic, but it's important...it's not stolen property. It's a work under copyright sold w/o a license. There's a difference. "STOLEN PROPERTY" (in caps, no less) means you don't have the property anymore. That isn't the case here. It's still wrong, no question, and Amazon is in the process of working through this. But it's different, and it's complicated. All caps doesn't help.
- Ken Kennedy
Robert re:"lots of journalism is done with stolen info." http://kara.allthingsd.com/2009071...
- Ian Paul
Robert: Amazon isn't the police; remember the analogy; if Books Inc sold me an illicit copy of 1984, they have no right to come into my house to get it back; they'd have to follow a legal process to do that.
- Stuart Liroff
Wouldn't the police need a warrant to come into my house and get the stolen property. I mean they couldn't just break into and then leave. That's what makes Amazon's action so bad, they made no attempt to inform the consumer of what they were doing. After all the consumer didn't know the item was stolen and had no reasonable expectation it was stolen.
- Kim Landwehr
Oops...I capped the whole thing "ABOUT STOLEN". Sorry. I'll not edit above, but consider this my oopsie acknowledgement.
- Ken Kennedy
Ken Kennedy: Excellent point and that isn't pedantic at all.
- Brian Baggett
Ward, if you buy my stolen t.v. I have every right to get it back. Your money is gone and you could face charges for receiving stolen property, depending on the circumstances.
- Kimber Scott
from BuddyFeed
Ian: Kara is wrong there.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ken: so if this isn't "stolen property" but content sold without out a license, doesn't that mean it was illegally obtained--at least by Amazon if not the end user?
- Ian Paul
The end user asserted to Amazon that they had the rights to publish the work.
- Ken Kennedy
I wonder if Amazon will ever start removing books from the kindle that you got from somewhere else, i.e. pirated content.
- RobinDotNet
Robin: I doubt that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
If somone took one of David Pogue's (the NYT writer that one of of the first to write about this), OCR'd it, put it up on Amazon via the Kindle's small authors publishing programs, and sold a couple thousand copies at $0.10 before Pogue figured out what was going on, what do you think he'd want to do? Leave them out there, or make Amazon take them back?? (I'm willing to bet $20 right here on the latter).
- Ken Kennedy
Robert: I don't want to go too far off topic here, but why don't you buy the argument that there's a difference between taking company documents in the name of the public good versus a hacker doing a cyber B 'n' E? Wasn't the whole Twitter affair basically a case of prurient (okay, prurient isn't the right word here, but you get my drift) interest for the reading public?
- Ian Paul
@Robin. There's no technological way to make sure that you don't have the right to that work. I think Amazon would be crazy to even try.
- Ken Kennedy
Scoble: I absolutely believe the content providers won't put pressure on Amazon & Apple eventually to do just that ...
- Brian Baggett
Robert i think you're conflating things again, maybe just to be a gadfly or "start a conversation," but you're equating things that aren't equal. Amazon thought they had the right to sell the book -- they didn't not *knowingly and wilfully* violate copyright. morally speaking, that is not the same kind of "crime" as buying something you KNOW is stolen from a self-admitted thief.
- Karim
I misspoke. I meant to say "I absolutely believe the content providers will put pressure on Amazon & Apple eventually to do just that"
- Brian Baggett
Ian: My public interest is your purient interest.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Amazon's already said: "“We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances". Props for that...probably. But what happens when someone scarfs the next "Harry Potter-alike", uploads it with a slightly different name a day before release, sells TENS of thousands of copies before they're caught (because I bet lots of...
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- Ken Kennedy
Amazon made a mistake that had no financial benefit for the receiver of the goods. Arrington received stuff he *knew* was stolen and used it for page views. HUGE moral difference.
- Karim
So they only remove content that *they* allow you to put on there illegally? That's good, bec. if Amazon did that, think what Apple could do to people's iPods...
- RobinDotNet
Robert: Amazon had the right to _lawfully_ request the 1984 copies to be returned. They didn't have the right to commit a felony by "breaking and entering" in order to retrieve the property: Definition: "Entering can involve either physical entry by a person or the insertion of an instrument with which to remove property. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Stuart Liroff
Robert: maybe I don't see it the same because I am not a journalist, but I am a banker. If your information is stolen and sent to Tech Crunch et al. you would not want to see it posted I would imagine. Perhaps this isn't similar, but posting anything privat be it account balances, personal info, loan committee minutes, business dealings etc. they are all private information...
- Trae Ruge
KenKennedy -- they could compare title against copyright availability.
- RobinDotNet
I'm still dismayed about the reports that some books can only be downloaded a specific number of times, and that's not documented. Anybody had any problems downloading books repeatedly? (I have 2 kindles, and use iPhone kindle app too).
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I think we'd need a new thread to keep this discussion going. I just can't believe that the Twitter info was in the public interest.
- Ian Paul
Robin: Why would you want to download books repeatedly anyway?
- Ian Paul
@Stuart: C'mon. This wasn't a masked Amazon employee in your bedroom. It's a wireless device that you authorize (and in fact expect them) to move stuff around on. You agree to a lengthy terms at purchase. Amazon can't agree to give you rights to a permanent copy of something that they don't have the rights to give you period.
- Ken Kennedy
IanPaul: I might want to download it to multiple kindles. But sometimes I download a book, read it, and remove it, so my list isn't so cluttered, since they don't let you folder them.
- RobinDotNet
Robin's comment brings up a good point: http://medialoper.com/hot-top...
- Brian Baggett
Isn't it ironic that the books by Orwell were deleted. "He who controls the past, controls the future" is the party slogan of the govt. in 1984. Maybe Amazon thought they could go back and change history too.
- Robert
BrianBaggett -- I agree, they should disclose it. I feel like I need to back up the files from my kindle to my PC just in case. Because you CAN copy them off, then copy them back on there, yourself.
- RobinDotNet
Oh, the Orwell irony I think is "great" (note the quotes). It's part of what gave this story legs, IMO.
- Ken Kennedy
Ken: If the perception is you're buying something from Amazon rather than renting it, then it is unreasonable. Obviously, they just made clear to anyone who wasn't sure that you own nothing on the device; you're just renting.
- Brian Baggett
Robin: I see. Can the Kindle sync with your computer or a memory card and you can put them on your hard drive instead? I don't have a Kindle, just interested to hear how it works .
- Ian Paul
@Brian @Robert I wholeheartedly agree...back up your files. It's trivial.
- Ken Kennedy
Robert -- It would have been ironic if it happened with Fahrenheit 451 !!
- RobinDotNet
IanPaul -- you can connect it to your compute and see the files, and just copy them off to your PC or wherever.
- RobinDotNet
They can reclaim stolen property, but they would tell you, they wouldn't just steal it back from you secretly.
- RobinDotNet
@Brian The Ars Technica article is good on this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po... Amazon does consider that you have a permanent license; it's no "rental". But...(and there's always a but in contracts), it can't give you a license to something it doesn't have rights to license! That's what happened.
- Ken Kennedy
Whoever said stolen property can't be taken away is wrong. In California, receiving stolen property is punishable by the law and often includes jail time. Even if you didn't know it was stolen and paid for the item. It can and will be taken by the law and held as evidence until a hearing or trial.
- Marc Flores
It's NOT stolen property. It's unlicensed property. And the short answer is Amazon should have bought a license for the number of copies they already had sold.
- Ward Mundy
If you buy a book from a book store, you have an absolute right to keep the book whether it was originally stolen or not.
- Ward Mundy
If you buy a stolen book from somebody on the street corner, you do not have a right to keep the book.
- Ward Mundy
Ken, Amazon's License and Terms of Use clearly gives the purchaser the non-exclusive rights to keep a permanent copy of the digital content on your device; nowhere does it give Amazon the right to delete it. http://www.amazon.com/gp...
- Stuart Liroff
Why worry about the stolen property statues of 50 states? This isn't a big-screen TV! @Ward, that's not a bad idea (short answer), except a) what if I don't WANT to license my work, for any price. You can't make me. b) after the fact, maybe I am willing to license to Amazon...for $100,000 a pop.
- Ken Kennedy
@Stuart: I know, since I quoted that about 2 minutes ago. *grin* But they can't license stuff they don't have a license to license!
- Ken Kennedy
"Copies of copyrighted works CANNOT BE REGARDED AS STOLEN PROPERTY for the purposes of a prosecution under a statute criminalizing the interstate transportation of such property." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Karim
You might also search for Buyer in Ordinary Course under UCC which applies in most states. http://bit.ly/49QRid
- Ward Mundy
So do those who bought 1984 have the legal standing to launch a class action suit against Amazon? A case that like that could have some serious implications for the future treatment of digital content.
- Ian Paul
shandel, the police can't enter your home to retrieve stolen goods without 1) your permission, or 2) a search warrant issued by a court. So what Amazon did was purely breaking and entering, unless their TOS said they could do so.
- Jeff P. Henderson
You do not own the kindle downloads. Amazon licenses them to you.
- russellcoleman
Yes, you own a license to the books. Where is it stated that Amazon has a right to yank your license?
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Jeff: That's the point; you own a bogus license...what does that give you? Amazon didn't have a legitimate license. Orwell's estate pointed that out; they had no choice but to stop selling. I imagine Amazon's interpretation of the TOS is that you never had a legitimate license either. They appear to be changing that interpretation now, based on feedback.
- Ken Kennedy
Ken, there is something called due process that should have been used in order to right the wrong. Amazon should not have 'broken in' and taken the books back. They should have used the proper legal procedures for doing so if that was their best resolution to the problem.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Disagree Scoble. This is not about STOLEN property. This is about censorship and the rights of individuals. This is about TYRANNY pure and simple.
- Richard
The Kindle is a nascent, emerging technology (sure e-book readers have been around for years, but like the iPod was to MP3 players, this is to e-books) and Amazon should do everything in their power to not leave a bad taste in consumer's mouths. Period. That 'kill switch' should be for viruses or malicious trojans or something that is really a problem.
- Brian Baggett
In a case like this, the publisher should've worked behind the scenes with Amazon to license the books. If the publisher wouldn't budge, Amazon could've had the courtesy to email or post a notice on what the publisher was asking them to do. The widespread ill-will would've shifted from Amazon in a heartbeat. They could've spun this blunder into a PR opportunity if they were smart ("The big bad publisher wants us to delete your content, but we said no ...")
- Brian Baggett
@Brian --- It's not any of my (or Amazon's) business why Orwell's estate (or anyone else) does or doesn't want to license electronic distribution. I personally think it's short-sighted for people not to do so, but that doesn't mean I think leaning on them the way you're describing is a good idea. Heck, I'd be MORE pissed w/ Amazon if they sent a letter like that. That's them using mob...
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- Ken Kennedy
@Brian -- there are lots of (academic, for example) works that I'd like to see on the Kindle that aren't there. I unfailingly click the "I'd like to see the on the Kindle" button, and I hope Amazon does something with it. I've even emailed authors and publishers directly. But I DON'T hope that someone rips them off and publishes things illegally, giving Amazon leverage to send "big bad publisher" letters.
- Ken Kennedy
@Ken - Had Amazon *intentionally* sold something it wasn't licensed to sell, sure they should be held accountable. However, a publisher they deal with sold Amazon something that *they* didn't own. That's not Amazon's fault; the ill will should be focused at the publisher who sold it to Amazon rather than Amazon playing copyright-cop.
- Brian Baggett
"MobileReference, the publisher in question, formats and sells public domain books on Amazon. The only problem is that George Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984 are not yet in the public domain, at least not in the US. According to Amazon's statement to Ars Technica, "These books were added to our catalog using our self-service platform by a third-party who did not have the rights to the books." -- http://bit.ly/Depgj
- Brian Baggett
I really think Amazon's learnt a very important lesson today. I guess the kindle marketplace is a nascent one, and a new foray for Amazon into DRM-encumbered file distribution. One would assume this will not happen again.
- Bryce Roney
from iPod
Do I have to be anti either?
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
Robert Scoble 2009: "Wait a second the whole Amazon Kindle thing yesterday was ABOUT STOLEN property! That changes ALL the anti-Amazon arguments." Philip Mauro, 1906: "All talk about dishonesty and theft in this connection from however high a source is the merest claptrap for there exists no property in ideas musical, literary or artistic except as defined by statute."
- Loryn Jenkins
Another point: this story has nothing in particular to do w/ the DRM on Kindle files. The "big deal" is the always-on (by default) connection that you don't often think about, since you don't pay monthly for it. WhisperNet is convenient, but that convenience has a downside. File DRM isn't the issue is b/c Amazon can and does sell ebooks w/o DRM; I bought a Kindle copy Mur Lafferty's...
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- Ken Kennedy
DRM isn't exclusive to a file; DRM can be an aspect of the hardware.
- Brian Baggett
Valid point, Brian. But the Kindle isn't really DRM'd in a direct hardware sense...it mounts as a drive if you connect it to a USB port, and you can drag off the files. Most people don't, but there's absolutely nothing stopping you. I backup all my purchases (and yes, that includes stripping the encryption; I have unencrypted backups of all my books). If Amazon made it impossible for...
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- Ken Kennedy
@Brian...just saw your earlier comment: "the ill will should be focused at the publisher who sold it to Amazon". I agree 110%; sorry if it seemed otherwise. There's an argument that could be made that the complicated nature of copyright makes this stuff confusing (ie, the fact that these books are in the public domain in Canada, Australia, and Russia already), but that's no excuse. If...
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- Ken Kennedy
Amazon clearly violated federal "computer tampering" laws. See http://cid-c072ace4f752027c.sp...
- Brian K. Stanley, Att'y
Why hasn't thumbprint scanning/reading taken off yet as a standard on laptops/desktop etc? Is it actually not that reliable/secure?
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My husband has it on his laptop and loves it. I'm going to get a USB one for my netbook.
- Anika
I use it on my laptop...it's awesomness!
- Justin Korn
from iPhone
I want it on my iPhone so I don't have to enter my 4 digit pass code ever time!
- Mike Bracco
Is it about as secure as a typical password. I am surprised that I haven't heard of any hacks grabbing the data as it goes from the scanner into the OS and hanging on to it to reuse later. That said, I use it for convenience. Wish it was more wide spread so I didn't have to pay to get a Firefox plugin to support it. Also, Win7 Hardware Check says my Microsoft Fingerprint Reader is not compatible with Win7 =(
- RAD Moose
you know it came on my refurbished dell laptop - when i reformated to put in the bigger hd - i didnt even install the software - so it just sits there on the side - sometimes when i want to impress the ladies at the coffee shop, i run my finger over it - they look oh yea they look
- Allen Stern
The software that supports it is just so... bleh.
- Ryan Massie
Just not really necessary, and consumers haven't demanded it.
- LANjackal
I love the possibilities of biometric security. It's available on all our testbed laptops at work. Just 'cause it isn't available on everyone's fav unibody wonder doesn't mean it's a bust....
- Arawak
But still, how many laptops have a thumbprint scanner? Lots of corporate ones, I'm sure, but not too many consumer-level laptops/netbooks.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
The laptop I'm using was bought at Best Buy and has it. Just about every non-basic laptop I've seen on the floor at Best Buy or Fry's has it and those monitors with the computer stuff in it them have it too.
- Anika
It's on my laptop. It's easier than signing in.
- John (bird whisperer)
C'mon @LAN. Blu Ray, Biometrics, Multi-MMC support, integrated 3G, Expresscard, eSATA and HDMI-out on laptops are all consumer fav's despite what Apple does or doesn't do IMO.
- Arawak
that's true, but Apple's always been very focused on the middle of the bell curve in terms of features (this is NOT always a good thing), even in their UI as those of us who struggle to find OS X useful know. I'm not saying there's no demand for the features you mentioned, but that they're not things the middle-of-the-bellcurve user cares deeply about
- LANjackal
from IM
Yup. No doubt that's true especially when it comes to overall perception in terms of marketing.
- Arawak
Hmm, I guess I haven't looked around for laptops for a while, then. Also, they might not be popular because people just aren't used to them... it's a quite different way of verification, and it might take a bit to get in the habit.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
The problem with biometrics is that your thumb is not revocable. It's actually a good thing that fingerprint scanners are generally fooled by a gelatin fingerprint overwrapping because there have been cases where thieves hacked off a finger to access biometric accessed systems.
- Wirehead
I have one on my work laptop. I'm a teacher, and store tests on that laptop, so it is somewhat useful. Though typically I just find it annoying because it has to think for a moment or two after I scan my thumb to decide if I am really me. With a password, the "think time" is much less. And besides, with a well chosen password, it isn't as if the kiddos are going to be able to guess it and if they do, then they are smart enough to have just aced the test, anyway.
- Miss Elle
The fingerprint scanner on my personal laptop is located right next to the screen where I grab it to flip it up to the correct angle. The scanning program always give me an, "Invalid read," popup message because the palm of my hand (which is what hits it) is, of course, not a valid finger. I'd like it much more if it were located in a more out of the way location, and I suppose my upset at the bad positioning has led to my distaste with biometric scanners in general.
- Miss Elle
convenient yes, secure, not so much: everything you touch now has a copy of your password
- Mike Chelen
It's as secure as the closest gummy bear
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
It uses too many resources. Sometimes it's easier just to type your password than swiping 3-4 times to get it right
- Rodfather
I like the idea for personal computing, but I think it would be a major mistake in the Enterprise. Say I fired someone and after they left I find that the laptop they used had mission critical information on it. Then I find out they managed to encrypt the hard drive. I am truly hosed if I can't get that person back in to use their thumb.
- adam garrett
adamg, wouldn't that be the same if the data is encrypted with a passphrase?
- Mike Chelen
from IM
I have it but don't use it. I type faster than I can swipe my thumb. This is not a verified fact.
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
Mike C Damn, you're right. At least, though I'd have a chance at guessing or asking for a passphrase than dealing with the thumb.
- adam garrett
Passwords more secure than fingerprints. You can easily change your password when you need it. And you have only 10 fingers. Also you are leaving fingerprints on everything you touch. Imaging you leave your password on every site you visit. Just a few stories about weakness of fingerprint identification: http://ln-s.ru/a0 http://ln-s.ru/aI http://ln-s.ru/ak
- Cheba Tron
I'd much rather use a certificate on a pendrive than fingerprint scanning. As someone said, it's revokable, it's easier to just plug it into your usb port and away you go.
- alphaxion
There goes a number of years of my life, CompuServe was the Twitter of its time: (The Paper PC: CompuServe Classic: So Long, Old Friend). - http://paperpc.blogspot.com/2009...
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If I remember correctly, I was 71340,356 on CI$ back in the day.
- Mike Shulman
I am too young to know anything about this.
- Mark
it was my first
- Tom Searing
from BuddyFeed
My first as well. Wow.
- Craig Eddy
I learned to type faster & chat... remember the "CB" ?
- Scarletcat
Never had a CompuServ account - I was on GEnie, loved their RoundTables.
- Ranger Craig
As much as I wasn't even aware that Compuserve still 'existed,' I'm somehow sad to hear of its passing. It was my first online experience, I had good friends and strange experiences on the forums. Anyway, there's solace in the joys of the real-time web.
- Brad Kligerman
I gave a talk last week comparing Compuserve's eventual absorption by the browser based Internet to how OpenSim -open-source, open-standard virtual worlds- will inevitably subsume Second Life and other walled gardens.
- Brad Kligerman
I remember it well. EAASY Sabre...
- James Schipper
I had an account in 1979 MicroNET/CompuServe... ah, with a Novation 300 Baud Acoustic Coupler...that would 'hiccup' if I played my music too loud (The 1200baud direct connect was awesome) I ran a few forums for various companies and went thru all of the versions of the software until AOL bought them. We didn't even have "CB" at first... we did have a programing area where someone made...
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- RAD Moose
Such a sad passing. I got my internet start in Compuserve. I maintained a CS account all these years too, hehe.
- Barbara
Go read Techcrunch NOW. Oh my god Arrington, you have HUGE FUCKING BALLS.
- Mark
:D
- Mark
Ahh, goodbye from 75106,1624 ...how I still remember that, I'm not sure!
- Mike Cassidy
ahh, goodbye 71260,45! the number I remember to this day.....just like mike I'm not sure either. It's kinda like your SS # or birthday. You'll never forget............
- Alex Marrow
First like most, I didn't even realize Compuserve was still around. I think I was about 12 when I first got on Compuserve. Like many it was my introduction to the Internet. I remember leaving for AOL, and being sort of sad, because Compuserve seemed cooler to me
- Ken Goyette
compuserve _was_ cooler
- Tyler Gillies
I remember compuserve. The was another similar service that started with P. Paragon, Paradise, Parallax, Prometheous, or something. What was that one? Got bought out by Sears?
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Prodigy, baby. Prah di gee. They had the Sears catalog, I used a credit card to order some tools using a gopher-style menu and I thought that was pretty cool.
- Brian Hendrickson
It sure was. My first time online was with Compuserve in 1980, right before H&R Block bought them. It was the only service that was available on the Amiga also. I just checked, and they're still in business. I had no idea they were around still.
- Michael Fidler
RIP as it lays to rest with the faint whisper of a 21 dailup tone salute!
- roger byrne
I spent bucketloads of my dad's money playing IoK. GO GAM-26. 72740,114. Good times.
- Michael McKean
Heh, I wonder if the Mac OS X CompuServe application will still run on modern versions of Mac OS X under Rosetta. That might be "fun" in a masochistic way.
- Tyson Key
I remember playing a text based space game on it for hours....and then the phone came and Dad said no more LOL.
- John D Reasor
John, MegaWars III?
- Michael McKean
If I remember correctly, I had GEnie, then CompuServe (72604,2235).
- John E. Bredehoft
That's it yes MegaWars III thanks Michael I could not remember the name.
- John D Reasor
Are all those discussions etc archived anywhere, or is this another bit of the early electronic era that's vanishing?
- Ian Betteridge
I was a sysop for Computer Associates development forums back in the day 72103,1321 if I remember correctly
- Sean Reiser
Compuserve, Prodigy, and AOL...that were the good old days
- Thomas Chai
You chaps and ladies must be old. I don't recall any of this. I was still shitting the bed in 1992.
- Mark
wait, does this mean that GIFs are now public domain? who owns that IP now?
- Joe The Sausage
@Mark: i shat the bed in 1992 as well, but unfortunately it was cos i was fantastically DRUNK. :P
- Joe The Sausage
Wonder what Scoble is upto.
- Mark
I enjoyed Prodigy and then Byte magazine's BIX, where I was a moderator. Good times.
- Steve Garfield
Real-time search. We have it. It's here. - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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Try http://friendfeed.com/search... It's also fun to watch the embedded search on the blog blog post (http://friendfeed.com/search...). You can see people discussing the blog post, from the blog post, in real time!
- Paul Buchheit
cooool
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
coooool
- zsafwan
GREAT !
- stanjourdan
Eeee. Awesome.
- Mark Trapp
from iPhone
Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it?
- Ian Wilker
YAY!!! FriendFeed staff rocks, that's all there is to it =)
- FFing Enigma
Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust!
- Jorge Escobar
WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement.
- Frankie Warren
Twitter Killer!
- David Schmidt
Thanks so much Paul & Co. Excellent work!
- Leo Laporte
hey love they way they launched search.. espcially when its close to "Search Marketing Day 2009" !1
- Peter Dawson
Thanks Leo. Jim and Gary did most of the work on this one though.
- Paul Buchheit
Track is back! This is a gamechanger.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
Track is back!
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Excellent news.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
from BuddyFeed
I think I'm going to scream if I hear "track" again - someone please define it for me
- Jesse Stay
Wow, great work!
- Meryn Stol
I stand in awe of your hackfullness.
- Ted Gilchrist
Good work. Much-anticipated.
- Louis Gray
@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track"
- Jesse Stay
you guys rock.
- Karoli
...wowsers! Very nice!
- JA Castillo
The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track"
- Frankie Warren
Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track.
- Jesse Stay
That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track
- Jesse Stay
/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :)
- Frankie Warren
BTW, integrating this into my blog right now
- Jesse Stay
Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned
- Daniel J. Pritchett
this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way.
- Ted Gilchrist
awesome!:)
- m.0
kewl!
- phil baumann
Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;)
- Brandon Titus
I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems.
- Chris Lamprecht
I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Awesomeness! I'm loving this right now.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Wow you guys rock!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please?
- Marg Uerite
You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that...
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- Mike Doeff
Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track.
- Jesse Stay
Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code.
- Dan Hsiao
Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, it's in beta and available to developers, but it's back, minus SMS support: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts).
- Mike Doeff
Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :)
- Rick Turoczy
Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track".
- Jesse Stay
BTW this is on staynalive.com now (look in the sidebar): http://staynalive.com/
- Jesse Stay
for my italian friends: stica...
- Alberto D'Ottavi
from fftogo
Jesse - you can hide the ugly search bar with a little quick CSS - it's <h1> under an easily identified class.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Daniel, good idea - I'd love to change the title more than that though.
- Jesse Stay
just a few minutes work and I have a FriendFeed realtime search embedded in a blog http://www.amsterdam20.nl (web 2.0 event)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Yeah
- Brian Sullivan
FF guys: we like your style :) --- way to go!!
- Harscoat
I think I'm going to cry
- Bwana ☠
awesomesauce!
- Simon Wicks
This is a really great innovation, congrats friendfeed team!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Thanks, Jim and Gary! Lots of hard work for a very cool result!
- Anne Bouey
HhhhhUuuuuuGggggEeeee !!!
- Harold Cabezas
I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks!
- 我是真砂！
The first step in a storystreaming platform!
- Kevin Sablan
Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team.
- Micah
Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work.
- Ferruh Mavituna
OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:)
- Michael Fidler
Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :)
- Ross Miller
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :)
- alfred westerveld
How can we embed FriendFeed search?
- Mike Reynolds
Mike - There's a link at the top of the search just beneath the red bar.
- Mitch
A box will pop up, take the HTML code from the bottom of that box.
- Mitch
Thanks Mitch!
- Mike Reynolds
Nice the embedding code can be dynamic.... <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/search..." frameborder="0" height="600" width="400" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe>
- Mike Reynolds
Thanks @Ross it works fine now, love the RSS output.
- Ferruh Mavituna
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- tabbr
Woo! So: will this cause a FF server meltdown anytime soon?
- Tim Tyler
very good!
- standin
Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more?
- Matt Cutts
two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;)
- Friendfeed's Francisco
We are there, in the battle against Twitter
- Michael_techie
Best search engine became better :)
- Chirag Chamoli
I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah
Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's amazing!
- Lizunlong
I've been waiting for this since the new UI, excellent, thank you Paul and FF! I'll give this a play later. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Micah, really looking forward to having your scripts work in Chrome. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is great. Well done, guys.
- James Myatt
Awesome :D
- Praveen Vasudev
great!!
- Mike Chelen
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Love this application.
- Tehane Wurdeman
Evernote is getting more and more positive buzz. Well deserved...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Evernote... ahh if only drag and drop on tags would work. (...and that web-clipping thing retrieved my tags too) : P ...
- Friendfeed's Francisco
In case you missed it: "19 Twitter Desktop Apps Compared" - http://mashable.com/2009...
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