Morgan: Chrome uses same media handling plug-in architecture that Firefox does, the Google guys told me. And they're both open-source, so it's possible it's the same code, and that's the problem. Bloody annoying, either way. - Rafe Needleman
Good to know I'm not alone in hating that. - Jack Carlson
yammer looks like the best of breed for a hosted solution. Looks particularly easy for user signup, since you just have to have an address in your company's domain. Leo Laporte swears by Laconica, which he uses as a public network but is extremely simple to use internally as well. - Jason Huebel
Posted in comments on this url as well: I’m a proverbial n00b to social media, but I have worked in IT for over a decade now… I’m interested as to how this benefits a corporation in your opinion(s) as opposed to newsgroups, wiki’s, KB’s, IM, and SaaS PM offerings? In other words, if Twitter is an indication of distraction, would not corporate micro-blogging be the same? - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
Great list Jeremiah - I think I may share a few of these in my presentation on Wed. (presenting to a group of CIOs in Dallas) - Jesse Stay
Yeah, let me know. I generally hate running case studies on Webware, but this might be a good time to break the rule. - Rafe Needleman
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How many of the 102 companies will be around in 24 months? - Jeremiah Owyang
i love questions like this - this is the same type of question lacy used at gnomedex when she asked "how do you define blog" - Allen Stern
As it's easy and fast to develop new web apps today, there isn't enough attention being spent on the actual product use-case, business model and distribution. Companies with adequate VC funding will probably survive more than 24 months, so I believe that a 36 months period is a more adequate measure. I estimate 5% only will be considered success stories, 10-15% may survive / be sold for an amount that will cover investments. the bulk (80%) will simply vanish. - Liad Agmon
You can still do something similar to others and be a leader. - Veronica
Yung-Hui Lim: Not at all, I say, pointing to the Big Picture - Kevin Cearns
doesn't the name "chrome" doom them to always have a chrome front end on the thing? the name needs work. - robert steburg
Robert, I agree. The comic explains why they called it this, but I think it has bad connotations. - Rafe Needleman
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Veronica, that's why I see no big deal of this, as it's more evolutionary rather than revolutionary. Definitely, not 'blue ocean' ;) Maybe that's Google's operating principles. Taking existing product ideas and make them 'awesomely' better. They definitely succeed with search engine. They're using the same principles with Knol and web browser. - Yung-Hui Lim
Will Google Chrome have any kind of plug-in architecture? Last thing I want to see is hundreds of forks of the Chrome code just because it's open source... - Jonathan Wong
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Yes, there's a section in the comic about plugins and security - Rafe Needleman
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do Batman and Robin feature? Wonder where the comic concept came from - weblivz
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Re: Google's originality. Search? er no. Web Based Mail? Web Based Maps? er no. They have however mostly jumped into a market already dominated by others and made something which has better than the rest. I'm interested to see what is new with this browser. - Stuart Woodward
Have you ever felt a kinetic watch? Those things are heavy: imagine what the phone would weigh... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
If only they made computers like this. So many more geeks would be getting off their couches and/or out of their basements. Including me! - Eric Geller
Eric, let's be honest, though -- someone would just find a way to generate the motion with a USB-powered gadget...and we'd all sit happily still, eating potato chips and typing away. :) - JR R.
You, JR, are the reason Americans -- geeks in particular -- are fat and lazy. :P - Eric Geller
I wonder if a strategic leak from a TC50 company wouldn't be better for said company than preseting at the event and getting lost in the noise. Just a thought experiment. - Rafe Needleman
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I'm neither at Demo nor TC50, do I have any chance of getting eyeballs to my project? uh maybe I should unveil it at Le Web 3 - OK I'll see to that - Louis Choquel
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Yeah Rafe Needleman, Arrington is very strict, you can't say anything to anybody until they announce the list on Monday, September 8th - Andrew Fielding
What would be funny is if all TC50 leaked. - Morgan Warstler
yep. Evernote is great. Yep. Evernote needs to enable some type of offline storage for the iPhone. That step will make it the "official" replacement for the native "Notes" app (in my mind). - Team Frosick
Mobile information is where it's at. Parking, weather, shopping, news, transportation (flights, buses, taxis) tracking, all are lagging services right now. - Loren Heiny
I wonder how you'd build a wifi mesh and a detector that could tell if a spot is open or not. Does such a thing exist? If it does, how do we monetize it? I'd pay $20 for such an app if it had decent coverage in San Francisco, but you'd need to have a pretty good coverage to be viable. - Robert Scoble
Scoble- it already exists, they were testing wi-fi, networked parking space meters in north Beach as some kind of pilot project, so you can check on your parked car's extra minutes. Using that logic, you could find out if an area was free. As usual city pilots go- we have to wait 3 years to get it :( - anna awesomesauce
@Karim: Super cool! I didn't kow Dust was on this project. I'm waiting for the iPhone app. And surprised there's not a Dash Nav version yet. - Rafe Needleman
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I've seen private garages that have parking space "counts" of how many available per level....I wonder if you could leverage something like that? (Microsoft's new Bldg 99 garage has it). If they could all provide data into a central source, i'd pay a monthly fee to subscribe to that data. And not even free parking, if i could look at available pay parking spots (and price compare!) for a busy downtown area, that would be fantastic! - Jeff Douglass
Ouch. Do you have the YouTube update yet? - l0ckergn0me
Will be happy if I get basic cable at this point. Tivo is doing a rebuild, which is the fix for this error #51 (look it up... I suspect my box is a refurb, although it was sold as new) - Rafe Needleman
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After almost 3 Weeks, we can't even setup the iPhone 3G to sync with Exchange - Alexander Schek
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strange you can queue messages to be sent but not queue messages for deletion. - Tim Connors
@Alexander Really? Getting it to work with Exchange was the easiest part for us. No PITA certificates to sync like on Windows Mobile devices, which is ironic when you think about it. - John Denver
@Time Conners: Right. Better than nothing, but like most people, my train ride in the morning is delete-my-emails time. Bummer for me, no reception in subway. - Rafe Needleman
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@John Denver: You will not believe all the trouble.. and we are a small company with a 2003 Exchange server and only 10 users. So nothing fancy... - Alexander Schek
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Irony # 1 is that an iPhone is easier to set up with Exchange than a Windows Mobile Device, as John mentioned. Irony # 2 is that Exchange push email (which Phil Schiller likes to call "ActiveStink") works *great* compared to, *ahem* Mobile Me. - Karim
it's not desktop tool for me. It is webtool called diigo. It's integrated with browser both for taking notes on a web page(annotation) and retrieve them as bookmarks. Yes evernote has a nice OCR technology. - pankaj
Adrienne: that's because you haven't seen what Evernote can do. - Robert Scoble
Notepad. Viva la Old School! Yes. I'm serious. - Art Lindsey III
Onenote most often, but Evernote is a good clip capture tool. - Soulhuntre
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Evernote - use it every day. Notebooks need to have sections or chapters, and the Mac version needs to add audio recording, but otherwise it's great. - Dean Terry
best notetaking for me is my moleskine for on hand, and jott when behind the wheel. - sean808080
Notepad++ largely, but increasingly using Google Notebook. - Derrick Burns
Evernote. mostly use it to keep track of real estate listings. (used to use OneNote--haven't opened it in months!) - Jasmin Smith
Franklin organizer. Paper is the best. - Victor Ryden
Jott for voice notes, Evernote for pictures and text but iPhone produces very blurry and unusable business cards with Evernote so far, needs a focus-adjuster app to be effective. - Sally Church
Google Notebook. Trying to find practical uses of Evernote. It still doesn't seem to have a collaborating notebooks feature. - Chris Chua
Evernote, has more flexibilty then Google Notebook. There are a few fearures I would like to added but it does the trick for me. - Paul
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evernote all the way. rich internet app with clients for most major PC and mobile platforms, and sync to cloud is quick and reliable. text deco of images is a nice bonus. they do need to spend some time observing the list features of OneNote and the search search ux of Spotlight - even the best apps can always improve. - Jon Price
Right now it's Gmail and IMAP but I am playing with Evernote. I do have concerns though about trusting my info with your cloud. You're doing all the right things. It's just that you're new and I need to get to know you. I trust Gmail. - Steve Rubel
Vim! In second place comes Mousepad. Third place is "cat > note.txt". - possible248
Evernote is a great service/app, but I still find I can write faster in OneNote. - Rafe Needleman
I like Evernote alot - great sync across platforms, I do wish that Ink was a better citizen in Evernote ( OneNote ink simply rocks ), and wish the Windows UI was as good as the Mac UI. I also want / need offline access to notes on the iPhone. - Rob Bushway
Rafe: I'd be convinced if you could get me OneNote on my iPhone. - Robert Scoble
Robert: totally agree - get OneNote on the iPhone, with the seamless sync. Until then, Evernote is the tool to beat. - Rob Bushway
Evernote + Reqall is a killer combo on the iPhone/Web/Everywhere - Nicholas Molnar
I love Google Notebook, need to find a good mobile alternative. - Rahaf Harfoush
Honestly, a moleskine notebook and a decent pen. A recent development for me, but it's working great. I get WAY too distracted taking notes on a computer where there are so many fun things I could be doing with my spare seconds! :-) - Josh Bancroft
I have a voice recorder on my mp3 player and on my phone, but I still mainly use a moleskine and a box of mechanical pencils. Old school, that's me. - Steven "Biff" Perez
While on foot, it's either my Nokia N95 8GB or my Moleskine, but with computer access it's either Evernote or Google Docs. - Niklas Pivic
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I've been trying out various for ages, I like Evernote for the multi-channel, since I rely often on the mobile. But when not using Evernote, it is my 22 year old Filofax (nowadays 100% notebook) made of thick hide, combined with a clutch pencil, preferably 2mm/2B. Much as I love moleskine, I love the ability to move around my notes. - Sin Trenton
Mail.app. Comes pre-installed. Easy to use. Notes are synchronised across all of my devices (Mac Mini, MacBook and iPhone). Notes are also available online via MobileMe. I don't need to wait for any app to launch since I always have Mail.app running anyway. - Paul Grav
Evernote is great but needs a printer driver and better inking. OneNote is king on TabletPC's for inking. Evernote is king for syncing. - Andrew Forde
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Evernote has great features, but I still find the desktop client a bit hard to use at times. Would like it a lot more if there was a proper app for my Symbian phone. - Sam
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Well with your knowledge & experience I'd say it's the site. But that is relative to the person it's being explained to. - Mark Krynsky
10 seconds? I think the problem is you. 10 seconds is not enough time to evaluate in my opinion. - Bwana McCall
Bwana how much time do you think they need to evaluate the site? 20 to 30 seconds or a minute? - Paul
To get the _basic_ idea, I'll need at least 2 to 5 minutes. From there, it could go to hours to days for a full blown evaluation. I think in 10 seconds you could completely miss the basic idea no matter how smart you are. - Bwana McCall
I totally agree. I have been to sites that have a lot of content on it but you have to explore it. It sometimes takes me several days to get the full picture because of the good content on a site!! I always like to support the site also if I can, by clicking on an ad or two!! - Paul
I'd give it a few minutes at least! :) But I know what you mean - you shouldn't have to struggle to understand "what" something is. If we, as web geeks, don't get something, what hope do they have for mainstream appeal? - Sarah Perez
What hope do they have for people who aren't web geeks. I'd say 50% or more aren't that geeky and the site should be molded around them not us geeks. We can navigate even the hardest sites, the site should be simple and sweet!! - Paul
I think that the basic idea of a site should be almost immediately apparent, however it will almost always take longer to fully grasp everything that the site is about, its potential, etc. I don't mind taking an extra minute to try and figure it out if I don't get it in the first 10 seconds though. - Harrison Hoffman
YEah, I'm talking about the *pitch*. If I don't grok that immediately, I think there's gonna be trouble. But actually reviewing a product always takes time and an open mind. - Rafe Needleman
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having built one that took some time to appreciate, it's not you, but it's not necessarily a worthless idea.... - anna awesomesauce
I think you should at least give them twelve seconds - drs650
Should be obvious in 3 sec. If not, a lot of people (esp. non-geeks) will leave. Give other pages for advanced features. Look at your Google Analytics stats & see how many people stay for 0-10 sec. If your site is complicated (more than 3 sec), give a front page link to a step-by-step walk-thorough tour with LOTS of pics (Videos are cool, but most people won't play them). Make life easy for people, and they might stay. How do you keep people past the first 3 sec? - Mitchell Tsai
If the core value of a site does not make itself evident to me within 10 seconds, I am gone. Over the years, I've never missed a site of importance by following the 10 second rule. The best example is Google: it takes only a few seconds to get it. If a site requires a long-winded demo or voluminous documentation, it is poorly designed, imo. - Sean McBride
I just saw a new service that took only a few seconds to get and it continued blowing me away for the next two hours. I totally agree with the others. If you can't get the basic premise quickly, then it probably wasn't well designed or thought out. http://www.tripit.com is a good example. Even the URL gives you a hint about what it's for. - Robert Scoble
After 10 seconds, FriendFeed looked like an aggregator to me. Turns out, it's core was discussion. 10 seconds is not enough for me. - Bwana McCall
I'm saying the site has the problem. The basic idea should be made extremely clear. - Summer
As a Web performance expert/consultant, it's always good to hear what people think is slow. Some companies think 10 seconds is acceptable performance. Based on this conversation, that might actually be the case for some folks. For me, If I don't get a clue that something is coming within 3 seconds, I tend to get cranky. - Stephen Pierzchala
Bwana: hmmm, still looks like an aggregator with a search engine and a community conversation feature to me. Of course it took me a little while to try it out. Louis Gray was praising it for months before I finally got a clue, so maybe you're right! - Robert Scoble
I no longer use a ten second rule. I have missed too many good websites early on because of this. For instance, at first I passed over del.icio.us. Now I love it. - Jake (aka Jawee)
On further thought, Jake is right. I usually take 20 minutes to really understand what a site does and its purpose. But it usually comes to me in the first two minutes whether something will be useful to me or not. - Robert Scoble
I have the 10/20/80 rule, 10 secs, catch my eye, 20sec get me interested, if I am still on the site after 80 sec, then there's something there that needs my attention :)- - Peter Dawson
Some sites I grokked in less than 10 seconds and use religiously: Google, Google News, Google Reader, Google Docs, Google Book Search, Wikipedia. Google seems to understand smart/minimalist user interface design better than any other Internet company. I knew from the first week I used Google (from the first week it was made public) that they would conquer the world. It requires great genius to make things exceedingly simple. - Sean McBride
I'll confess: It took me more than 10 seconds to understand Friend Feed and I still don't understand the basic idea of Mahalo. - Rex Hammock
Bwana: Agree with you about FriendFeed. The entry page sucks. Better would be a page with (1) Trails - e.g. 3 popular threads of the day, Robert Scoble's discussion page, Louis Gray's discussion page, Thomas Hawk's page (2) Link to some people raving about FriendFeed (with cool pics of their FriendFeed experience; e.g. Mona's Bacon thread, discussion of Cuil's failure) (3) 2 historical cool topics (4) A SLIM 640x480 entry page with NOT much on it - NO scrolling. People don't scroll on first glance. - Mitchell Tsai
Some are following the "less is more" meme to an extreme. Hard to explain everything or even navigate from some of these new fangled sites. - wrecks
Five other sites which passed the 10 second rule for me: Craigslist, Hulu, IMDb, Pandora, Yahoo Groups. I use them all the time. Slick. - Sean McBride
Seems to me that coming into a new site with some hard and fast rule like this supports 'me too' and simple sites that more often than not are a) not solving something new and/or b) solving something 'easy' to solve in the first place and/or c) solving something that isn't really a problem at all. I'm not looking for easy solutions to easy/non problems. I'm looking for easier solutions to harder problems. 12seconds .. easy to grok, fun, but what problem does it solve? - Capn' "One-Eye" Longman ☠
I would say the site. Would you like to share the site you are looking at? - Randy Ksar
Depends on what they do and how you use it in those 10 seconds - Stephen Paul Weber
Mark: Hah, story of my life. I write 600-word think pieces that get ignored. And a Twitter gets into BWeek. - Rafe Needleman
rafe, please check your facts! your twitter did not get into businessweek, your friendfeed message did! :-) - Deva Hazarika
Deva, you're right. It was a FriendFeed msg about Twitter being down. - Rafe Needleman
stepping back a bit and thinking about the fact that businessweek is quoting a friendfeed message from a "blogger" (do they really not know you?) about twitter, well, that's a little crazy if you think about it... - Deva Hazarika
Very cool. I'd love to be a fly on the wall as Twitter rebuilds architecture - john conroy
Haha, Mack -- I was gonna make that joke. Beat me to it! - Kambiz Kamrani
Did you guys see the caption I put on the photo in the story? Beat you to it. - Rafe Needleman
Now, THIS guy speaks sense. Instead of artificially limiting P2P globally across the network (comcast, et. al.), he just wants to throttle when it's actually NEEDED to stop congestion. - Daniel Bruce
Very good idea, finally something reasonable to regulate the broadband consumption. And especially with such a man leading this, I believe their technology will work just right. - Svetlana Gladkova
Thats Dumb and at best could be a quickfix. Let me see, do I smell a conflict of interest here with his company making the network switches. Internet need more high speed pipes. Maybe its time to say goodbye to internet pipes of 80's and deliver internet 2 which will deliver hd movies of tomorrow. - Vic Podcaster
Disappointed. Lets keep the old architecture. I vote for going back to dirtroads and aqueducts. - Roland Hesz
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good rational, good thinking, i don't think the path they took is the right one, but i'm biased, iv'e seen something else.. hope it'll get out of stealth mode soon - Naor
I totally missed the caption Rafe! Nicely done. - Mack D. Male
I have already left for Plurk. I use Feedtweeter to send all my Plurks to twitter. - Jon
it isn't going to be a unreliable issue, it'll be a 'reliable other thing' (like friendfeed) issue. when you are certain that enough of 'the conversation' has moved away, and we can get away without twitter, we'll leave. i'm willing to wager it's already happening. the question i ponder is: can twitter regain its footing, or have they permanently lost it? i hope the money/team can make enough impact fast enough... - Jeremy Toeman
I guess it depends on the person you're talking to. Individual annoyances vary. - Les
Plurk will have problems soon, too. They're already showing. - Hao Chen
The thing that bugs me is that it took some time to build an audience on Twitter. I don't want to give that up by hopping to another service. Although if everyone I Twittered with came over to FriendFeed, I'd jump. Right now it's about 33% - Rafe Needleman
I hear you, Rafe. As it is right now, I'm using both FF and Twitter, but if they have another major outage, I think a bunch more people will switch. Still, because FF is promiscuous (it reads my Twitter feed) there's no loss to continue to use Twitter while it remains useful. - David Sifry
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In your case, I'm quite sure your audience will follow you wherever you go - Bwana McCall
Rafe - same for me. I don't want to move to another app and rebuild my community. So, I guess i'll have to suffer through the Twitter growing pains. - Jim Turner
FF is a much better place for conversations Rafe. I suspect that someone like you, a prominent tech journalist, would build up an audience here just as large as your audience at Twitter. For what it's worth I haven't been on FF all that long and I've got almost as many people following me here (2,797) as I've got following me at Twitter now (3,177). The audience is growing faster over here than there as well. - Thomas Hawk
but you are thomas hawk. people follow you, - excalipoor
Bwana & Thomas are right, it won't be a problem to get audience here, You might like it even more here - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Twitter is no where near dead yet. My personal theory is they didn't expect loads of people choosing to massive amounts of others. In the past week, I've had several people with absurd numbers of follows (one with 60k, one with 90k) - that's insane. Twitter has hired some top talent to address these issues and got new rounds of funding to assist. Personally I still love twitter and find it a different and useful complement to Friendfeed. - Doug Brooks
I'm on it less than before, but use Twitter as a gateway to more reliable socnets like FriendFeed, where we can have longer discussions. The community on Twitter still merits having an account there. Can we be hopeful that now that they got another round of funding, they'll FINALLY find ways to make it more reliable? - Cathryn Hrudicka
FriendFeed is certainly a very reliable Twitter client, I'm finding. It's nice to get everything that everybody's doing -- not just what they tweet -- inside a feed as well. - Jared Smith
Twitter peaked during the early primaries, it was an incredible learning and connecting tool. It's not doing anything for me anymore. So have I moved on? Not exactly, because nothing has come along to replace it. FF is very different, and most of the people I connected with on Twitter aren't here. I've always said it's about the people. Nothing else. - Dave Hussein Winer
Compared to mobile carriers and cable companies, Twitter does quite well. It's free and works most of the time. I'm sure things will get better given all the $$$ they've raised recently. - Mike Reynolds
As long as it takes for FriendFeed to handle SMS posting. - Rubin Sfadj
