Mark: Hah, story of my life. I write 600-word think pieces that get ignored. And a Twitter gets into BWeek. - Rafe Needleman
rafe, please check your facts! your twitter did not get into businessweek, your friendfeed message did! :-) - Deva Hazarika
Deva, you're right. It was a FriendFeed msg about Twitter being down. - Rafe Needleman
stepping back a bit and thinking about the fact that businessweek is quoting a friendfeed message from a "blogger" (do they really not know you?) about twitter, well, that's a little crazy if you think about it... - Deva Hazarika
Very cool. I'd love to be a fly on the wall as Twitter rebuilds architecture - john conroy
Did you guys see the caption I put on the photo in the story? Beat you to it. - Rafe Needleman
Now, THIS guy speaks sense. Instead of artificially limiting P2P globally across the network (comcast, et. al.), he just wants to throttle when it's actually NEEDED to stop congestion. - Daniel Bruce
Very good idea, finally something reasonable to regulate the broadband consumption. And especially with such a man leading this, I believe their technology will work just right. - Svetlana Gladkova
Thats Dumb and at best could be a quickfix. Let me see, do I smell a conflict of interest here with his company making the network switches. Internet need more high speed pipes. Maybe its time to say goodbye to internet pipes of 80's and deliver internet 2 which will deliver hd movies of tomorrow. - Vic Podcaster
Disappointed. Lets keep the old architecture. I vote for going back to dirtroads and aqueducts. - Roland Hesz via twhirl
good rational, good thinking, i don't think the path they took is the right one, but i'm biased, iv'e seen something else.. hope it'll get out of stealth mode soon - Naor
I totally missed the caption Rafe! Nicely done. - Mack D. Male
it isn't going to be a unreliable issue, it'll be a 'reliable other thing' (like friendfeed) issue. when you are certain that enough of 'the conversation' has moved away, and we can get away without twitter, we'll leave. i'm willing to wager it's already happening. the question i ponder is: can twitter regain its footing, or have they permanently lost it? i hope the money/team can make enough impact fast enough... - Jeremy Toeman
I guess it depends on the person you're talking to. Individual annoyances vary. - Les
Plurk will have problems soon, too. They're already showing. - Hao Chen
The thing that bugs me is that it took some time to build an audience on Twitter. I don't want to give that up by hopping to another service. Although if everyone I Twittered with came over to FriendFeed, I'd jump. Right now it's about 33% - Rafe Needleman
I hear you, Rafe. As it is right now, I'm using both FF and Twitter, but if they have another major outage, I think a bunch more people will switch. Still, because FF is promiscuous (it reads my Twitter feed) there's no loss to continue to use Twitter while it remains useful. - David Sifry via twhirl
In your case, I'm quite sure your audience will follow you wherever you go - Bwana McCall
Rafe - same for me. I don't want to move to another app and rebuild my community. So, I guess i'll have to suffer through the Twitter growing pains. - Jim Turner
FF is a much better place for conversations Rafe. I suspect that someone like you, a prominent tech journalist, would build up an audience here just as large as your audience at Twitter. For what it's worth I haven't been on FF all that long and I've got almost as many people following me here (2,797) as I've got following me at Twitter now (3,177). The audience is growing faster over here than there as well. - Thomas Hawk
but you are thomas hawk. people follow you, - excalipoor
Bwana & Thomas are right, it won't be a problem to get audience here, You might like it even more here - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Twitter is no where near dead yet. My personal theory is they didn't expect loads of people choosing to massive amounts of others. In the past week, I've had several people with absurd numbers of follows (one with 60k, one with 90k) - that's insane. Twitter has hired some top talent to address these issues and got new rounds of funding to assist. Personally I still love twitter and find it a different and useful complement to Friendfeed. - Doug Brooks
I'm on it less than before, but use Twitter as a gateway to more reliable socnets like FriendFeed, where we can have longer discussions. The community on Twitter still merits having an account there. Can we be hopeful that now that they got another round of funding, they'll FINALLY find ways to make it more reliable? - Cathryn Hrudicka
FriendFeed is certainly a very reliable Twitter client, I'm finding. It's nice to get everything that everybody's doing -- not just what they tweet -- inside a feed as well. - Jared (W.) Smith
Twitter peaked during the early primaries, it was an incredible learning and connecting tool. It's not doing anything for me anymore. So have I moved on? Not exactly, because nothing has come along to replace it. FF is very different, and most of the people I connected with on Twitter aren't here. I've always said it's about the people. Nothing else. - Dave Winer
Compared to mobile carriers and cable companies, Twitter does quite well. It's free and works most of the time. I'm sure things will get better given all the $$$ they've raised recently. - Mike Reynolds
As long as it takes for FriendFeed to handle SMS posting. - Rubin Sfadj
As wonky as Twitter is, I'm still preferring it to Plurk. FF is gaining steam with me, but it still seems more static to me somehow. Haven't pulled enough people into my circle here yet, I suppose. - abacab via twhirl
unreliable? I would say unpopular ;) I would leave twitter If I could follow ALL my friends and MORE interesting people in other place :) - Lora Lufark
still on twitter. Not sure when I will move out. - Thejesh GN
Excellent, a Twhinge (Twitter + whinge) thread! In all seriousness... I posted about this situation at Broadcasting Brain today. I am feeling fed up and having the Reply function on the Twitter Web app disabled doesn't help at all. - Mark Dykeman
I prefer Plurk's timeline and threaded comments, but the community doesn't seem to be present quite yet. Once the community exists, I'd be happy to switch. But something like FF will keep me happy in the meantime. - Jason Ziglar
excalipoor, but he is Rafe Needleman, an influential and popular online tech journalist. People will follow him wherever he goes as well. - Thomas Hawk
Have you given it up? Me neither. That's 'cause we forget how much it sux when its working right. - shelisrael1
There have been plenty of opportunities for people to move off Twitter to clones. Since it hasn't happened yet, primarily because it is hard to bring your community with you, I don't expect it to happen ever. - Bob Ngu
How expensive does gas have to get before people like me give up driving cars totally? :-) - Bassam Islam via twhirl
Twitter indeed has its limitations. It is NOT a replacement for the fluidity of IRC, it is not viable as a live conference tool, at so many junctures it introduces latency, this is all before we touch upon its infrastructure, reliability, and ability to scale. Perhaps Bezos' infusion of cash will see to thoee last points - David Blumenstein via twhirl
For me the thing the twitter offers is the ability to sms info quickly to a bunch of people. Events like Siggraph twitting about the next events or the results of events as they happen to people at the shows. Imagine if the SF Giants twittered player info at their games or things like that. I do agree that it's horrible for conversation, but one-way info is a perfect use for it. - Doug Brooks
Fortunately it's not too hard for me to move over here. Most of my (and yours, I'd argue) followers on Twitter are ghosts (long gone) or following for reasons other than shear interest. Twitter is still useful for ephemeral exchanges and generally telling the world how undercaffeinated I am. But for interesting links/thoughts and level of conversation this is where I'm now planting my flag. - Jim Stanger
I like FriendFeed more every day. But I miss Twitter. - Rafe Needleman
I don't rely on it for communication. To me it's like graffiti on a wall. I'll keep reading it, but if they repaint the wall, c'est la vie. - Patrick Beard
As long as there is a backup, like FriendFeed, I think Twitter can go out regularly... for me, this works. For all the good Twitter-based projects or business models, Twitter is running out of charm.... - shanebe
5 days continuous ... maybe. People have built huge followings. They're not abandoning them. - Charlie Anzman
New money and new people coming in to Twitter. Users have been through all of this and stayed so far...they will wait it out. Twitter will and must fix the architecture once and for all and conclude on a viable business model and be off to the races. I'm as sick of the flying whale as anyone else but inexplicably I haven't left...and I don't think I will. - Paul Marshall
Once the A-listers leave Twitter, it's over. - Dossy Shiobara
We're all getting tired of the hit/miss feature set and repeated, unplanned downtimes. Twitter management of their app is beyond weak, it's moved over to an untenable business and is completely unreliable at this point. I do think they are taking active steps to rectify the instability of their current app / db environments, but it may be too little, too late. - Susan Beebe
you lot have very short memories - ebay, amazon, google, world of Warcraft all had issues when they hit viral explosive growth - icq,hotmail - I could go on and on. The fact that there is this much heat about it shows that it will get through the hurdles and move on. - Ed Dale
Oh wow, this is a bummer. Flickr has really been instrumental in making the web 2.0 model of a clean, well-designed, and rapidly evolving service. Without the founders, we'll be left to Yahoo's devices. Do Not Want. - Steve Isaacs
SmugMug is a great, more professional, alternative to Flickr. - Louis Gray
Wasn't Caterina running Brickhouse? What is the fate of that little bubble of innovation there? - felix
I hope that Yahoo doesn't do anything to mess with Flickr. Do I need to start thinking about extracting my photo collection out of Flickr? I really hope not. Flickr is an important part of my workflow. I just renewed my account yesterday. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Louis: but what about the community? It's the thing that makes Flickr great. - Ole Begemann
@Begemann agreed. Flickr - Community = :( - Pat Hawks
My Pro renewal is due in September......make a stay/leave call then perhaps? - David Peacock via twhirl
Yahoo = titanic... And am I one of the few who actually prefer Picasa to Flickr? - Chris Reed
I imported all of my photos from Flickr to SmugMug a month or two ago. Better. There's a Firefox extension that will manage the import. - Jack Baty
I'm not crazy about Flickr, but I like using kflickr for uploads, plus it is easy and does what I need. I've considered Picasa though. I have next to nothing in Flickr anyway. - Jake (aka Jawee) via twhirl
Before I jump on the Yahoo is dead bandwagon, what were these two doing with Flickr? Were they actively developing? - Bwana McCall
Yahoo stock price when they sold to Yahoo, about $37 a share. Yahoo stock price now, $23.25, hopefully their sale to Yahoo was for as little restricted locked up stock as possible. About a 40% stock price decline in 3 years, during which time Terry Semel was the highest paid CEO in America and Jerry Yang turns down multiple premium offers from MSFT. Amazing. - Thomas Hawk
@All Will TC add FF-comments plugin one day? : ) - Erhan Erdogan
Oh no! Does this mean the end of Flickr? - Colide81
The Flickr community will keep it afloat for a long time. - Russellreno
Quick! Everyone jump ship to Zooomr! </sarcasm> - Cecily Walker
This doesn't bode well, and I have multiple Pro accounts. What to do? Maybe spin it off on its own? - Glenn Batuyong
it sucks that the founding visionaries are leaving, and i'm definitely fearful for yahoo, but isn't this a bit dramatic? i'm curious what the founders think - are they giving up on their baby, would they not use it any more, do they think its going to die or are they leaving it in good hands? we all have so much invested in flickr, with its thousands of photos stored - it seems harder to replace than a facebook over myspace type. - Kevin
I'd hate to think that the only reason people were using Flickr was because of who the founders were. The other sites are good, have tried Zooomr, Ipernity and Smugmug but still come back to Flickr for the whole package. - Stuart Forsyth via Alert Thingy
Kevin: you're probably right. Stewart Butterfield said in the thread on FlickrCentral: "None of Heather, Cal, Eric or George (and definitely not Serguei) would want my job (it sucked!). But Kakul really is awesome, and any of the five abovementioned would back up my claim on the TC post that having Kakul in charge is better than having me." And community members have backed him up. - Ole Begemann
I really, really doubt that Flickr is going to implode because if this. I'm actually surprised that these two stuck around as long as long as they did. They are start-up people after all. It kills me how everybody wants to jump from one service to another at the drop of a hat. - Mike Doeff
@Mike - I'm sure they wanted to wait until they were fully vested, or they signed an agreement to stay several years. And when you say "jump from one service to another" do you mean the users or startup employees? - Jason Kaneshiro
Mike D:totally agreed. Kind of silly isn't it. Thomas Edison long gone but we don't worry about light bulbs...or do we? :D - Mark Forman
Jason, I was referring to the users, not the startup employees. The Web 2.0 crowd can be a very fickle bunch. I admit that I try out a lot of services and don't always stick with them (beta-itis) but once I find one that I like, it takes a hell of a lot for me to drop it. I really think that users need to show some loyalty, even when the services that they are using go through some rough spots. - Mike Doeff
Flickr jumped the shark at video. I was prefectly happy with it and never woudl have needed a new feature before that. If the founders are somehow related to Flickr's feature backlog, I wish they would've gotten out of there already... - Wade Dorrell via fftogo
For everyone who is lighting their hair on fire and in a panic about what to do now that Flickr is going down the toilet Duncan Riley has come to the rescue... http://www.inquisitr.com/1095/... - Mike Doeff
www.ipernity.com - Nobody seems to know about the site with the closest Flickr functionality. - Stuart Forsyth
It was always going to happen. I don't think it will have much effect on the site, other than make the old school users have a wee look at the alternatives. - Chris Nixon
@Chris Nixon - I thought all the "Old School" users left when Yahoo took over and they had to sign up for a Yahoo ID? ;-) - cmiper
@cmiper They were never going back. Then they did. Then video happened. So they quit. Then they came back again. Now this! Seriosly though, as with the best social sites, Flickr is not about who runs it, it's about who uses it. - Chris Nixon
then why does it redirect to mozilla? Though its currently throwing this helpful message: Http/1.1 Service Unavailable - Rahul Das
Registrant:
DNS Admin
Mozilla Corporation
1981 Landings Dr.
Mountain View CA 94043
US
Is the listed owner of firefox.com - Brian Sullivan
I think there was some competition over the url. A long time ago, firefox.com was some other website and had a link to mozilla on the homepage. Some arrangment they had with each other. But mozilla owns it now. - Rahul Das
Everybody should check this out. Even if you're not a Google Reader fan or a typical FireFox user, load FireFox and go to http://www.feedly.com. There's a limited number of downloads of their .xpi plug-in, so it's first come, first serve. - Louis Gray
I was about to pooh-pooh it until I read the part about how if you share it/read it in Feedly, it shares and marks it read in Reader. That's killer. - Mark Trapp
crap. I read this as soon as I leave my computer - Bwana McCall via fftogo
Thanks Louis, I am checking out http://www.feedly.com looks like a great concept!! How do you find all these cool things? - Susan Beebe
Just started to use it and I am immediately impressed. This just might be my new favorite reader. - Jason Wehmhoener
@Susan, I found Edwin when he first wrote "Listen. Measure. Iterate." back in February. http://tinyurl.com/6crhsz We've been trading e-mail ever since. I didn't say the word Feedly or Feeddo for months. :-) Others have different stories. - Louis Gray
I was trying it with FF 2 for the last 15 minutes. I glossed over the fact (on the feedly home page) that it needs FF3. It seems to install fine on FF2 and does not complain that it needs FF3. Would have been nice if it warned me that it does not run on FF2. In any case, will try it out as soon as I download FF3. - Atul Arora
I grabbed it. I dig it. I will use it. Maybe RSS just needs to be looked at in a different light. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Kinda lame that it's Firefox only, for what I can tell is only so you don't have to feed it your Twitter/Friendfeed/Gmail/etc. credentials. Can't use fluid with it; will probably forget about it. - Mark Trapp
Thanks Louis. I just got the .xpi and trying it out. This might be something! - Kenichi Matsumoto
Dude, I'm all over this freggin site... What a work of genius..my..head..is hurting...from...such...uber - Bwana McCall
Now you tell me, when I'm stuck in the Wal-Mart customer service line. - J. Phil via fftogo
Looks nice, but can't do it... I feel like I'm "cheating" on Google Reader. Plus, many things were giving me javascript errors. - Vince DeGeorge
Holy cow. A true glimpse at the future: a user agent. Rockin'. - Chris Baskind
WARNING: Using this added 450 feeds to my gReader!!! Screenshot coming... - Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, it creates folders for "feedly" on Google Reader, but there shouldn't be any duplication of feeds. Are you talking about net new feeds being added, or just them tracking your favorites? - Louis Gray
Ok, it's created three folders, z.feedly.favorites, z.feedly.people, z.feedly.seeded. It wasn't 450 feeds, it was 150 in three folders. http://www.flickr.com/photos/v... I thought it had caused major problems at first, but it looks manageable. I certainly wasn't expecting it... and scared me at first. - Vince DeGeorge
A warning would be nice from the Feedly folks about this. Not a showstopper, but I think letting the user know will ease the sting of coming on board. - Bwana McCall
Bwana and Vince, I agree. I told Edwin that during the alpha process, and thought it had been resolved. - Louis Gray
@vince, @bwana sorry for the scare. There is a warning about that in the first run page but will work on making it more explicit. Also note that the reason why there is a z.feedly.seeded tag is because we are working on adding an un-install procedure which will completely undo the effect of the feedly welcome wizard. - Edwin Khodabakchian
Deleted my previous entry when seeing Edwin's response. Edwin, I apologize that I didn't see the warning - I tend to run headlong into things ;). Your quick response from feedback is excellent, which is very important! With that in mind - "no harm, no foul." - Vince DeGeorge
@atul feedly should work on firefox 2 as well. The reason we are pushing for the firefox 3 angle on the website is because we benefit from a lot of the performance optimizations done by firefox (and we are trying to see if we can leverage some of the momentum generated by firefox3 to get the word out). If you run into any problem on firefox 2, please log a ticket on http://www.getsatisfaction/fee... - Edwin Khodabakchian
@Mark Trapp you are right: the reason we have been focusing on firefox so far is that it allows us to do real-time aggregation more securely. It also allows us to off-load a lot of the processing to the client and opens the door to supporting xmpp in the future. I am not that familiar with fluid but will take a look (a couple of our users are using feedly on flock). - Edwin Khodabakchian
Another user of Fluid here. It supports userscripts, but I'm not sure if it has the sophistication of the Firefox plugin architecture - Bwana McCall
Working with this for the last thirty minutes. Very impressed. I actually like the feeds showing up in Google Reader. Excellent work Edwin. - Henry Burger
Wow, seriously how long has this been in the works? Still figuring out all the things it can do and how easily it does them. Very slick - Andrew Smith
damnit. I have to like it. An idea that I had in the works (the newpaper/magazine style layout) - great work, we'll see how things go. - Tim Hoeck
@edwink, I was just confused on FF2 as to how I should get started. When I tried it out on FF3, I clicked on the circular rss icon that the extension put on my menu bar. I will look for the same icon on FF2 and give it a spin. If I run into any problems, I will log a ticket. I completely understand the rationale for pushing the ff3 angle. My first impression is very positive. - Atul Arora
just a note, when my FF restarted, I didn't get to see the initial startup page, because I have session restore enabled. It killed the start page. Just look for the circular RSS button next to your address bar. - Tim Hoeck
Edwin, I got to say, I don't really understand your architectural decisions. You make most of the program local, yet you don't utilize your own storage for application data (instead, you insert all of Feedly's info on recommendations and people into my OPML file, which even if you're warning me I completely missed: it's not obvious). Yet, it's browser based, but I can only use a specific version of one browser (and only if I have the add on installed). - Mark Trapp
You've got competing metaphors here: if it's browser based, let me use it anywhere. If it's desktop based, don't force me to use a specific browser, and don't use my existing services as your data storage. - Mark Trapp
@mark it is a browser extension to allow us to be more real-time, not have to touch people's credentials and be able to scale better. But it tries to leverage and integrate cloud services so that it feels more integrates and people can roam. - Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark we heard the point about being more explicit about the Google Reader integration and tried to address it today. The one thing to keep in mind is that although feedly is using the Google reader back end, we are not going after the google reader users (if some find it compelling, great) but we are instead to package all that is good in RSS and social sharing and try to see if we can re-invent a better start page for more mainstream users. This is beta1 and we are not yet there but that is our goal - Edwin Khodabakchian
Wow. Well done Edwin. I'm super impressed right now. - Neal Hohman
Impressive status Loic...you're doing a fantastic job of growing Seemic (I am very happy you acquired Twhirl and have improved it so much) - Thanks!! =) - Susan Beebe
awesome always nice to see a good service get the respect it deserves - BCK
Bret, thanks! I won't be as cool if next month it gets flat or goes down but I like this months curve :) Rafe, well, XMPP in Twhirl is a start but they left it down for now. Nikos, we only have about 20 000 users from the alpha test phase, now we're open so it's growing. - Loic Le Meur
Great. I would be using seesmic except it keeps crashing my browser when I record a video. :( - Sam Guzmán
Congrats Loic! Always nice to see graphs that go up and to the right - Caleb Elston
I understand the arguments regarding advertising vs. paying per bit, but my gut tells me that the Internet should be a utility, much like electricity or water. It costs the supplier for the amount used, so it should cost the user for the amount used. It is not like television, where the cost for 1 person watching equals the cost for 1,000,000 people. I guess where it gets more complex is that the *speed* (bandwidth) also has value, as does the latency. - Brian
Brian, I agree with you. Unlimited service doesn't make financial sense and can't last. But the transition is going to be very difficult. - Rafe Needleman
Rafe, I just listened to a good discussion of this on TWIT (http://twit.tv/147). I see Leo's point that the bits are essentially free. My ISP doesn't suddenly expend more resources when I download a movie, for example. But if someone physically near me downloads movies on a regular basis, then my local bandwidth gets used up, and the ISP may need to add capacity. Of course, once it's there, the maintenance costs must be low, right? - Brian
i wonder if this is a good sign or a bad sign for Yahoo! Search... - edythe
Maybe they wanted to get away from red...you know....blood.. - Bwana McCall
Yahoo has made it primary color purple over the last few years, I would think that this would be a huge move for them. I'm not a big fan of the new font though, you guys? - Aaron Myers
“Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.”
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr? - Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password. - Daniel E. Renfer via twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in - Tris Hussey via twhirl
But it does work well for identifying hot topics. One option is to attach comments to an item and use the comments as a timeline. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Yah, we should fix this, especially for events like this. - Bret Taylor
Plurk is frustrating if you are following more than a few dozen ppl. - Rafe Needleman
Bret, when is FF getting Plurk support? - Rafe Needleman
I actually had success just following the main "Friends" feed because you catch all the new posts there, and it's close to a "newest first" at least. I still don't get Plurk. - Jesse Stay
I've been waiting to block Mark Trapp for weeks. - Mark Trapp
White-out has worked pretty well... well, until I scroll or refresh. Sigh. - Vince DeGeorge
Mark Trapp: What about me ? :) (Smile) - directeur
And I don't mean send someone to Block Island, which is lovely this time of year - Noah Carter
Block Island, lol. I'm pretty sure that FriendFeed will come out with the feature. It's amazing that they actually listen to us. - possible248
I haven't felt a need to block anyone yet. Hide works pretty well. - Thomas Hawk
When I go to Block Island tomorrow, I'll be sure to put in a feature request for them to implement Friendfeed integration. That'll solve the problem. - Mark Trapp
I hide some tweets, and diggs... I have no problem with people, because for me guys, you ARE but what interest you :) - directeur
Hide works only when they start the conversation, there is a particular individual who posts the same garbage post every time a certain discussion comes up, no way to ignore him without blocking the whole thread. :-( - cmiper
There are a couple folks that I'd prefer to never see comments from. However, if those people comment on a discussion that I want to see, the only option I have is to hide the entire thread. It seems to me that me simply being able to hide an individual person's comments would be inadequate. A better solution might be to allow the original discussion starter to block certain people from posting comments to a discussion, or use a scoring system to rate a person's contributions. - Kelly Fox
Why do you want to block people? You want to make Friend Feed another Face Book Walled Garden? - Igor The Troll
so true mitch. (would have 'liked' your comment, but I can't. perhaps that is by design to get me to leave a comment?) - bernie
That will quickly change though as the conversation moves on. People will get bored of reading and writing about the same thing. I predict a big change in the conversation on Monday. - Chris Nixon
@Mitch @Marshall That's true for any service, whether it be Twitter, Mixx, Digg, or whatever. - Shey
maybe if enough people like this message it can be a "best of" friendfeed message about the "best of" friendfeed. Or something like that. - Thomas Hawk
It's getting very self-referential around here. - Mike Doeff
The echo chamber can bug after a short period. When I get there, and it doesn't take as long these days, I just connect with different people. Just did a search for a favorite keyword and discovered a person sharing his awesome desert pics and links here as well. So BAM, subscribed. Echo chamber chatter is diluted and FF is much MUCH more useful now. - Jim Stanger
Well, people that use FriendFeed are interested in FriendFeed. If there is news about FriendFeed, people like to read it. Opinions are generated and then voiced. I think that the conversations about FriendFeed within FriendFeed will never end as FriendFeed would continue to evolve. - possible248
now most of my "best of" items are complaints like this one or clusters about Twitter being down. - Robert Scoble
I think it's a phase all social sites have to pass through. First we get used to whatever new service we're using by talking about it all the time. Then, hopefully, the conversations begin to get more interesting. But FF is most definetely in its narcissistic infancy. - Rafe Needleman
You just added to the self friendfreedism, and so did I :) - Eric Florenzano
@Jim Stanger - good idea. I just went out and searched for marathoner Ryan Hall. Added two runner types to my subscriptions. Cool. - Hutch Carpenter
The chitter chatter of narcissistic exhibitionists can be an incredible time waster. The noise to signal ratio here is enormous. -
