Oh wow, this is a bummer. Flickr has really been instrumental in making the web 2.0 model of a clean, well-designed, and rapidly evolving service. Without the founders, we'll be left to Yahoo's devices. Do Not Want. - Steve Isaacs
SmugMug is a great, more professional, alternative to Flickr. - Louis Gray
Wasn't Caterina running Brickhouse? What is the fate of that little bubble of innovation there? - felix
I hope that Yahoo doesn't do anything to mess with Flickr. Do I need to start thinking about extracting my photo collection out of Flickr? I really hope not. Flickr is an important part of my workflow. I just renewed my account yesterday. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Louis: but what about the community? It's the thing that makes Flickr great. - Ole Begemann
@Begemann agreed. Flickr - Community = :( - Pat Hawks
My Pro renewal is due in September......make a stay/leave call then perhaps? - David Peacock via twhirl
Yahoo = titanic... And am I one of the few who actually prefer Picasa to Flickr? - Chris Reed
I imported all of my photos from Flickr to SmugMug a month or two ago. Better. There's a Firefox extension that will manage the import. - Jack Baty
I'm not crazy about Flickr, but I like using kflickr for uploads, plus it is easy and does what I need. I've considered Picasa though. I have next to nothing in Flickr anyway. - Jake (aka Jawee) via twhirl
Before I jump on the Yahoo is dead bandwagon, what were these two doing with Flickr? Were they actively developing? - Bwana McCall
Yahoo stock price when they sold to Yahoo, about $37 a share. Yahoo stock price now, $23.25, hopefully their sale to Yahoo was for as little restricted locked up stock as possible. About a 40% stock price decline in 3 years, during which time Terry Semel was the highest paid CEO in America and Jerry Yang turns down multiple premium offers from MSFT. Amazing. - Thomas Hawk
@All Will TC add FF-comments plugin one day? : ) - Erhan Erdogan
Oh no! Does this mean the end of Flickr? - Colide81
The Flickr community will keep it afloat for a long time. - Russellreno
Quick! Everyone jump ship to Zooomr! </sarcasm> - Cecily Walker
This doesn't bode well, and I have multiple Pro accounts. What to do? Maybe spin it off on its own? - Glenn Batuyong
it sucks that the founding visionaries are leaving, and i'm definitely fearful for yahoo, but isn't this a bit dramatic? i'm curious what the founders think - are they giving up on their baby, would they not use it any more, do they think its going to die or are they leaving it in good hands? we all have so much invested in flickr, with its thousands of photos stored - it seems harder to replace than a facebook over myspace type. - Kevin
I'd hate to think that the only reason people were using Flickr was because of who the founders were. The other sites are good, have tried Zooomr, Ipernity and Smugmug but still come back to Flickr for the whole package. - Stuart Forsyth via Alert Thingy
Kevin: you're probably right. Stewart Butterfield said in the thread on FlickrCentral: "None of Heather, Cal, Eric or George (and definitely not Serguei) would want my job (it sucked!). But Kakul really is awesome, and any of the five abovementioned would back up my claim on the TC post that having Kakul in charge is better than having me." And community members have backed him up. - Ole Begemann
I really, really doubt that Flickr is going to implode because if this. I'm actually surprised that these two stuck around as long as long as they did. They are start-up people after all. It kills me how everybody wants to jump from one service to another at the drop of a hat. - Mike Doeff
@Mike - I'm sure they wanted to wait until they were fully vested, or they signed an agreement to stay several years. And when you say "jump from one service to another" do you mean the users or startup employees? - Jason Kaneshiro
Mike D:totally agreed. Kind of silly isn't it. Thomas Edison long gone but we don't worry about light bulbs...or do we? :D - Mark Forman
Jason, I was referring to the users, not the startup employees. The Web 2.0 crowd can be a very fickle bunch. I admit that I try out a lot of services and don't always stick with them (beta-itis) but once I find one that I like, it takes a hell of a lot for me to drop it. I really think that users need to show some loyalty, even when the services that they are using go through some rough spots. - Mike Doeff
Flickr jumped the shark at video. I was prefectly happy with it and never woudl have needed a new feature before that. If the founders are somehow related to Flickr's feature backlog, I wish they would've gotten out of there already... - Wade Dorrell via fftogo
For everyone who is lighting their hair on fire and in a panic about what to do now that Flickr is going down the toilet Duncan Riley has come to the rescue... http://www.inquisitr.com/1095/... - Mike Doeff
www.ipernity.com - Nobody seems to know about the site with the closest Flickr functionality. - Stuart Forsyth
It was always going to happen. I don't think it will have much effect on the site, other than make the old school users have a wee look at the alternatives. - Chris Nixon
@Chris Nixon - I thought all the "Old School" users left when Yahoo took over and they had to sign up for a Yahoo ID? ;-) - cmiper
@cmiper They were never going back. Then they did. Then video happened. So they quit. Then they came back again. Now this! Seriosly though, as with the best social sites, Flickr is not about who runs it, it's about who uses it. - Chris Nixon
Everybody should check this out. Even if you're not a Google Reader fan or a typical FireFox user, load FireFox and go to http://www.feedly.com. There's a limited number of downloads of their .xpi plug-in, so it's first come, first serve. - Louis Gray
I was about to pooh-pooh it until I read the part about how if you share it/read it in Feedly, it shares and marks it read in Reader. That's killer. - Mark Trapp
crap. I read this as soon as I leave my computer - Bwana McCall via fftogo
Thanks Louis, I am checking out http://www.feedly.com looks like a great concept!! How do you find all these cool things? - Susan Beebe
Just started to use it and I am immediately impressed. This just might be my new favorite reader. - Jason Wehmhoener
@Susan, I found Edwin when he first wrote "Listen. Measure. Iterate." back in February. http://tinyurl.com/6crhsz We've been trading e-mail ever since. I didn't say the word Feedly or Feeddo for months. :-) Others have different stories. - Louis Gray
I was trying it with FF 2 for the last 15 minutes. I glossed over the fact (on the feedly home page) that it needs FF3. It seems to install fine on FF2 and does not complain that it needs FF3. Would have been nice if it warned me that it does not run on FF2. In any case, will try it out as soon as I download FF3. - Atul Arora
I grabbed it. I dig it. I will use it. Maybe RSS just needs to be looked at in a different light. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Kinda lame that it's Firefox only, for what I can tell is only so you don't have to feed it your Twitter/Friendfeed/Gmail/etc. credentials. Can't use fluid with it; will probably forget about it. - Mark Trapp
Thanks Louis. I just got the .xpi and trying it out. This might be something! - Kenichi Matsumoto
Dude, I'm all over this freggin site... What a work of genius..my..head..is hurting...from...such...uber - Bwana McCall
Now you tell me, when I'm stuck in the Wal-Mart customer service line. - J. Phil via fftogo
Looks nice, but can't do it... I feel like I'm "cheating" on Google Reader. Plus, many things were giving me javascript errors. - Vince DeGeorge
Holy cow. A true glimpse at the future: a user agent. Rockin'. - Chris Baskind
WARNING: Using this added 450 feeds to my gReader!!! Screenshot coming... - Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, it creates folders for "feedly" on Google Reader, but there shouldn't be any duplication of feeds. Are you talking about net new feeds being added, or just them tracking your favorites? - Louis Gray
Ok, it's created three folders, z.feedly.favorites, z.feedly.people, z.feedly.seeded. It wasn't 450 feeds, it was 150 in three folders. http://www.flickr.com/photos/v... I thought it had caused major problems at first, but it looks manageable. I certainly wasn't expecting it... and scared me at first. - Vince DeGeorge
A warning would be nice from the Feedly folks about this. Not a showstopper, but I think letting the user know will ease the sting of coming on board. - Bwana McCall
Bwana and Vince, I agree. I told Edwin that during the alpha process, and thought it had been resolved. - Louis Gray
@vince, @bwana sorry for the scare. There is a warning about that in the first run page but will work on making it more explicit. Also note that the reason why there is a z.feedly.seeded tag is because we are working on adding an un-install procedure which will completely undo the effect of the feedly welcome wizard. - Edwin Khodabakchian
Deleted my previous entry when seeing Edwin's response. Edwin, I apologize that I didn't see the warning - I tend to run headlong into things ;). Your quick response from feedback is excellent, which is very important! With that in mind - "no harm, no foul." - Vince DeGeorge
@atul feedly should work on firefox 2 as well. The reason we are pushing for the firefox 3 angle on the website is because we benefit from a lot of the performance optimizations done by firefox (and we are trying to see if we can leverage some of the momentum generated by firefox3 to get the word out). If you run into any problem on firefox 2, please log a ticket on http://www.getsatisfaction/fee... - Edwin Khodabakchian
@Mark Trapp you are right: the reason we have been focusing on firefox so far is that it allows us to do real-time aggregation more securely. It also allows us to off-load a lot of the processing to the client and opens the door to supporting xmpp in the future. I am not that familiar with fluid but will take a look (a couple of our users are using feedly on flock). - Edwin Khodabakchian
Another user of Fluid here. It supports userscripts, but I'm not sure if it has the sophistication of the Firefox plugin architecture - Bwana McCall
Working with this for the last thirty minutes. Very impressed. I actually like the feeds showing up in Google Reader. Excellent work Edwin. - Henry Burger
Wow, seriously how long has this been in the works? Still figuring out all the things it can do and how easily it does them. Very slick - Andrew Smith
damnit. I have to like it. An idea that I had in the works (the newpaper/magazine style layout) - great work, we'll see how things go. - Tim Hoeck
@edwink, I was just confused on FF2 as to how I should get started. When I tried it out on FF3, I clicked on the circular rss icon that the extension put on my menu bar. I will look for the same icon on FF2 and give it a spin. If I run into any problems, I will log a ticket. I completely understand the rationale for pushing the ff3 angle. My first impression is very positive. - Atul Arora
just a note, when my FF restarted, I didn't get to see the initial startup page, because I have session restore enabled. It killed the start page. Just look for the circular RSS button next to your address bar. - Tim Hoeck
Edwin, I got to say, I don't really understand your architectural decisions. You make most of the program local, yet you don't utilize your own storage for application data (instead, you insert all of Feedly's info on recommendations and people into my OPML file, which even if you're warning me I completely missed: it's not obvious). Yet, it's browser based, but I can only use a specific version of one browser (and only if I have the add on installed). - Mark Trapp
You've got competing metaphors here: if it's browser based, let me use it anywhere. If it's desktop based, don't force me to use a specific browser, and don't use my existing services as your data storage. - Mark Trapp
@mark it is a browser extension to allow us to be more real-time, not have to touch people's credentials and be able to scale better. But it tries to leverage and integrate cloud services so that it feels more integrates and people can roam. - Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark we heard the point about being more explicit about the Google Reader integration and tried to address it today. The one thing to keep in mind is that although feedly is using the Google reader back end, we are not going after the google reader users (if some find it compelling, great) but we are instead to package all that is good in RSS and social sharing and try to see if we can re-invent a better start page for more mainstream users. This is beta1 and we are not yet there but that is our goal - Edwin Khodabakchian
Wow. Well done Edwin. I'm super impressed right now. - Neal Hohman
THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!!! you got my hopes up. Much as I hope it finds water, you have to question why it takes the damn thing a week to extend its arm. - john conroy
LOL...he blames Scoble for pushing my family photos off the page. Robert must have Rhino Skin. =) - Craig Eddy
No no, I wasn't blaming Scoble :) I was just bringing up one of the main problems we are trying to solve: if one of your subscriptions is 100x more active than your others, how do we make it easier to not "miss" the stuff from your other friends? You should be as active as you want to be, and we will try to make our product work for you no matter how active you and your friends are. - Bret Taylor
agreed good interview by bret & dan (who i normally consider to have a legacy mindset struggling to grok anything emerging - tainted i know but he used to blindly rip apart podcasting early on when it was clear he never really got the concept /rant ended ;) - mike "glemak" dunn
Bret, that was a great interview. To be honest I considered removing my sub to Scoble b/c of the activity, but then I realized my page would be pretty empty if I did. So very few of my friends & family use any Web2.0 apps. So my issue isn't too much noise, but not enough buy-in from those I would follow. Any advice on how to overcome that would be most welcome -- pestering them didn't work. =) - Craig Eddy
That is what I love about this country, every now and then the completely unexpected happens. This is in many ways the story of the nation. - Carlos Leyva
I still don't know why Clinton hasn't quit. She's a poison pill for Democrats. - Mike Reynolds
to Mike Reynolds. it's simple: EGO. She was supposed to be the shoo-in, and she's losing to an upstart. hard to accept (via Alert Thingy) - Baratunde Thurston
