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Happy holidays from the FriendFeed crew! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Nicholas Kreidberg, WALL.E, Patrik Johansson and 290 other people liked this
Thanks to Kevin for another great logo...
- Bret Taylor
YAY! Snowmens!
- Yolanda
Cool logo! :)
- AJ Batac
I think they need scarves. They look cold.
- Yolanda
Great logo! Simple and fun.
- Brandon Titus
great :) çok sevdim bu logoyu :)
- Burak Budak
Cool :D
- Pedram
Kevin - that is an awesome logo!!!!!
- Susan Beebe
A nice tribute to Bill Waterson :)
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
+102 for Bill Waterson references in picture Kevin or words Sinterclas
- Steve C
cute but what happened to festivus this year?
- Laura Norvig
Merry Christmas to the FriendFeed team. You guys rock! FriendFeed reacts quickly and you're adding wonderful features all the time (Thanks soooo much for the "edit" feature.)
- Mitchell Tsai
Happy Festivus!
- ◄ani625Ξ
Happy festive season to you all as well :)
- Niki Costantini
Happy Holidays!!!
- David Cook
love it~
- Sunny
Love!!!
- BeeLing
Glad you like it! (And glad people picked up on the Waterson influence :-)
- Kevin Fox
Merry Christmas! :D
- Ron
Happy Holidays FF crue -- you've made this an excellent and memorable year for many of us. Facebook couldn't have done it without you! :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
w00t you gave me the best online year in 15 years!!! ;p Thanks a lot, everyone, for what you've done here XD
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Merry Christmas to all
- Craig Eddy
Merry Christmas!
- Svein Håvard Djupvik
Haha! I love horrified snowmen. Merry Christmas to FriendFeed!
- Chris Lasher
Joyeux Noel a tout le monde!
- Mathieu Ayel
Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays!
- Anne Bouey
Feliz navidad a ti!
- JA Castillo
Thanks! Happy Holidarys! Merry Christmas!
- Bill Romanos
happy christmas, chanukah and kwanzaa.
- D. Eda Goze
happy chrismas and a happy new year!!!
- ethan meccage
That's when they loved us :(
- Christopher Harley
Awwwww sniff
- Kevin Fox
Happy holidays! Take good care of yourselves and... enjoy those days off! <o> \o,
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Merry Christmas!
- Ian May
Tks and love you all !!!
- Renchin(Reina)
ahh, the good ol' days.
- MikeAmundsen
Happy Holidays FriendFeers! <superbump />
- AJ Batac
cool!!
- Ferzvladimir
*bump*
- imabonehead
Sigh. Sometimes it is the little touches, like seasonal logos or easter eggs, that mark a site as a living project, and that you really miss when the developers have all moved on to something else.
- Michael R. Bernstein
ای جان چقدر خوبه این
- WALL.E
Brian Solis at Bub.blicio.us: Introducing the FriendFeed Team - http://bub.blicio.us/1111126...
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Tudor Bosman, Lysender, ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0, and 148 other people liked this
Brian, as always, takes great pictures, even with questionable subjects. The pictures are from tonight's open house.
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Great pic Louis and tell them I love them all, best product on the web right now
- Thomas Power
Great photo!
- Bret Taylor
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
yes; awesome photo!
- Tudor Bosman
(Not pictured: Ben Golub, Gary Burd and Ross Miller)
- Louis Gray
Some of our Turkish friends are also there http://ff.im/3mt6T.. Thanks for the pictures
- Murat Buyurgan
Great Photo :)
- Nimaa
You didn't tell me there was a FriendFeed party this week or I would have come out :-)
- Jesse Stay
Tudor SMASH!
- dario
Jesse: I haven't been able to make a friendfeed party for a while. We need a calendar! Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
اینا هم حلقه دارن. رونوشت به مازیار و مهران اینا
- Aly
Rock on, Kevin!
- Josh Haley
Great PPs!!加油，Friendfeed！:)))
- K.D.
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- Renchin(Reina)
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
I think I spotted Hutch (http://friendfeed.com/bhc3) in an uncaptioned photo wearing a white "San Francisco Classic" shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes, Daniel. That is Hutch.
- Louis Gray
Fun party, great food, great hospitality.
- Anne Bouey
Anne - great finally meeting you yesterday.
- Hutch Carpenter
great photo, good to see the whole team together!
- Jeroen De Miranda
oooh i am totally wishing i was there! Robert is right, we need a calendar! :)
- Susan Beebe
Hutch: Thanks. I enjoyed chatting with you, too.
- Anne Bouey
what's with the guitar? lol
- Stuart Evans
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
علی حجوانی تو روحت، ای واسه چه موقعیه؟ :)))
- Mehran
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
:)))
- Mehran
EMAILS FROM A CLIENT - http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p...
FFing Enigma (aka Tina) and Tsega Dinka liked this
was looking at this earlier today, busted out laughing a few times. I can relate.
- Tsega Dinka
Alton is 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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pea, Tsega Dinka, Yolanda and 5 other people liked this
24! They grow up so quickly.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Your kids always make me smile.
- Anne Bouey
He's doing up his special day right. He's wearing underpants and his crown. Pleas to get some clothes on have been met with, 'I'm wearing my crown.'
- Admiral Anika
from fftogo
I liked it, so I finally put a ring on it. - http://pikchur.com/Fz2
Paul, Renchin(Reina), Victor Ganata and 139 other people liked this
Congratulations!! (if I am interpreting this correctly)
- joey
Yeah. LOL. I just made it official, like in the Thriller video...except that I didn't turn into a werewolf and chase her through the woods....
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Congrats!!
- Chrimmus Tad
Congratulations Sheen.
- Tsega Dinka
congrats
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Congratulations to you both!
- WorldofHiglet
Very good, my dear Rah!
- Derrick
Super wonderful congrats to you both!!1
- Helen Sventitsky
Congrats, Rah!
- Pete Delucchi
Congrats to both of you, Rah!
- ha3rvey (just a friend)
Congratulations!
- Spidra Webster
Congratulations!!!
- Michael Fidler
Congratulations, Rah!
- Micah Wittman
Congrats Rahsheen!
- Hutch Carpenter
Congrats to both of you!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Way to go Rah! Congratulations!
- Steve
Nice work.
- Louis Gray
Awesome... don't know her from Eve... But from what I've gleaned from you online. She's got a good guy. Congrats!
- SAM
Congrats!
- imabonehead
congrats then :)
- webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)
Congratulations man :)
- LANjackal
Congratulations, Rah! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations!
- Anne Bouey
Congratulations! ^__^
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
"it" ? ;) Congratulations though !
- Thomas Bøhm
*wonders if he should put on leotards, a metallic hand and run up the wall...* Congrats man!
- Johnny Worthington
Congrats man!!!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Congratulations!! :)
- Emma
Congrats!
- Laura Lou Who
ویدا بیا برات حلقه ازدواج خریده دوستت :))
- Mil∂d
congratulations to you and, um, "it" ;)
- Call me Bronco
Congrats!
- jbrotherlove
Congratulations, dude!
- Daniel B. Honigman
Woohoo! Congratulations!
- Ladybug Heather
Congratulations !!!
- Eric Logan
yay!
- esther ♥ ♫
Congrats!
- Shevonne
Congratulations! :)
- JA Castillo
Congrats. :)
- Kevin Winn
Congrats!
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
میلاد :)))))))))))) انگشترش رو دوست نداشتم نامزدی رو به هم زدم :دی
- Viva Vida
Oh that's awesome!! Congrats!
- Nurse Katie
Congrats!
- anna sauce
buahahaa!! you stoopid.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Yay! Congratulations!!
- Yolanda
Congrats, happy for you Rahsheen!!!
- YoYo_P
Congrats, Rahsheen!!!
- Live4Emma (L4S)
from iPhone
Congrats :)
- Rodfather
Not fair that the lady gets to wear a fancy ring before we even do the church thing. What's the point of being engaged if you can't flaunt it? LOL. Thanks everyone :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Woot! Congrats. :)
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
from iPhone
Congrats! That's fantastic news...!
- sean808080
Congratulations! Welcome to the ranks of those of us promised and intended to the love of our lives =) Aloha!
- Arleen Anderson
woohoo! congrats!
- Leslie Poston
Congrats, Young Sheen!
- Bryan R. Adams
CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :)
- Susan Beebe
congrats and good luck! :)
- Tim Hoeck
Alright, Rah! Happiest best wishes to you both!
- Ayşe E.
Congrats!
- xero
Congratulations, Rahsheen and Trail!
- Admiral Anika
Congrats Rah!
- Justin Korn
woooooo hooooo!
- metalerik
CONGRATS MAN!
- AJ Batac
So very nice. Congratulations!
- Martha
Hey, I just now saw this! Congrats to both!!!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Congrats!
- Nicholas James
Congratulations!!
- Erica Thompson Briggs
CONGRATS!!!
- David Cook
Congratulations!!
- Harold
Congratulations, Rahsheen! I had a similar thought for Harold when he gave me my ring: "Gee, kind of unfair the guy doesn't get to wear something too until the wedding."
- Kamilah Gill
Congratulations!
- Tracy Benham
Way to go... May you have a wonderful life together.
- Mitchell Tsai
bump.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
bump^2
- imabonehead
yep... Apple's different
winckel, Josh Haley, Mattb4rd and 22 other people liked this
AAPL is very much about money as well.
- Itachi
If there wasn't a lot of money attached to changing the world I wonder how well it would work? :-)
- Todd Hoff
Yeah, I mean, let's be serious. They aren't saints.
- Chieze Okoye
Apple's about making profits through innovation. Not like other companies. Push some bullshit crap out the door, charge shit rates and turn in returns, that's every company on the planet except Apple.
- vijay
I would be more excited vijay if another element, Closed Systems, wasn't so forward.
- Todd Hoff
what's closed systems Todd? You mean the open/closed software systems?
- vijay
I mean stuff like how closed itunes and the iphone are. It's not just the carrier choice, the APIs are frustratingly limited.
- Todd Hoff
How about they change the world by making the iPhone platform free and open. Why can't I even use Flash on my iPhone?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
We should at least have read/write access to all the data that's on the phone and in itunes.
- Todd Hoff
I'm not a programmer so I don't know about APIs but I can answer why Carrier is closed. AT&T subsidizes iPhone in return for exclusivity. And iPhone has already opened up to other carriers in quite a few countries now.
- vijay
Lack of Flash on iPhone, and Lack of Multitasking BOTH have the same reason... iPhone has a non-removable battery unlike other devices.
- vijay
+1 Todd
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@vijay and why does it have a non-removeable battery?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
vijay, how are those features related to the battery?
- LogEx
Apple hates screws. Screws means movable parts and that means repair service. Plus it's ugly.
- vijay
Flash and Multitasking (apps run in the bg), eat battery like cake. That's why.
- vijay
@vijay Really? You mean they aren't innovative enough to figure out how to put in a removeable battery without screws??
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I mean moving parts. Not just screws.
- vijay
But a removable battery would take up more space, or be smaller and have less juice.
- LogEx
The Flash decision may be party energy consumption, but it's also political IMO.
- LogEx
Not political. Flash and the entire Adobe suite runs on macs. Actually Photoshop runs better on Macs than on anything else.
- vijay
True, but wireless is a whole new world, no reason to support a proprietary format that may eventually die off (especially if it gets helped to die off). The iPhone is the one platform that has enough leverage to obviate Flash.
- LogEx
what's the gain for apple there?
- vijay
The gain is not having to use, license, and depend on another company's proprietary format. HTML 5 & h.264 address 80% of the use cases.
- LogEx
Vijay, seriously, dude, step away from the Distortion Field. Apple is not the first company that succeeds through innovation nor will they be the last. They're not even the only one that does it now. Honestly, even back in the day when it was scraping it's way to dominance, Microsoft was awesome at taking disparate ideas and putting them together into something successful. Read "Good to...
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- Chieze Okoye
In fact, you could say that Dell is passionately driven and innovative in the field of assembly-lining computer manufacturing in order to cut their bottom line. Just because it's not in the realm of making stuff look pretty doesn't mean you can't innovate.
- Chieze Okoye
I've been using windows since 3.1 and DOS before that. I came to know of Apple only 3 years back. Distortion Field has nothing to do with this. The care and attention to detail in every single Apple product is absolutely astounding.
- vijay
LogEx license makes sense yes.
- vijay
What I'm saying is that your "Apple is different because they're passionate about what they do and are successful because of it" is a false comparison. Companies that become great all share the same type of passion for whatever it is they're doing (read: whatever it is they're focusing themselves at becoming the best at). It's basically a requirement. The only thing that differs is where that passion is directed.
- Chieze Okoye
we could be talking about the same thing then... MS is passionate about gaining Market Share through any means possible while Apple is passionate about making a difference.
- vijay
That's my other thing. Apple is not that altruistic (which, no offense, is where I think the RDF comes in). Their passion is directed at being the best of high-end, boutique computing. It's not about "changing the world" and "making a difference" (a la a charity organization).
- Chieze Okoye
iPhone 3G is just 99 bucks.
- vijay
And their cheapest laptop is $1,000.
- Chieze Okoye
which comes with multitouch and the best of industrial design(unibody is sexay) and OSX.
- vijay
exactly my point: "best of high-end, boutique computing"
- Chieze Okoye
Great points Chieze
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
iPhone + iPod Touch is also a platform. That is cheap.
- vijay
You're not including the development cost
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
development cost? for consumers ?
- vijay
Vijay, iPhone is most certainly not a cheap platform. iPhone is $500-$700 MSRP. Consumers don't see that, but they're still spending roughly $2,000 over the life of their two-year contracts. Smartphones are not cheap, doesn't matter how you cut it. $99 iPhone is great or whatever, but there is still a completely different strata of people (ie: those that can afford it) that can and do purchase an iPhone. iPhone 3G is not cross-shopped with a $99 moto on metroPCS.
- Chieze Okoye
iPod touch is a stronger argument, though it is still $200 minimum for a music player (I bought a music player off of woot.com for $10 (S+H included) once.
- Chieze Okoye
"Apple's about making profits through innovation. Not like other companies. Push some bullshit crap out the door, charge shit rates and turn in returns, that's every company on the planet except Apple. - vijay" Seriously? Yikes, you have had too much of the Kool-Aid or you sit on way more corporate boards than we understand.
- Kenton
all smartphones are not cheap so Apple is a high end boutique computing platform? no. iPhone is cheap getting cheaper(it started off at 600 bucks and is now 99) and people are buying it as well so I don't see how it is not affordable.
- vijay
or maybe you don't know much about apple Kenton
- vijay
Smartphones are not a cheap market. They are the almost the definition of a high-end computing platform. AAPL's dominance of that market is EXACTLY MY POINT. They want to be best at high-end computing, and iPhone is their successful strategy of doing that in mobile. It starting out at $600 is due to the fact that AT&T subsidized very little of it. Then they subsidized more when the...
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- Chieze Okoye
Uhh, yeah right. You work for Apple then? To say that every other company in the world only cares about making a quick buck off crap products is proof that you aren't thinking in an unbiased way. To start an argument with a statement like that immediately destroys any credibility you have.
- Kenton
The smartphone market is slowly but surely becoming more mainstream and less high-end, that is true, but that trend is world wide and is still a ways off from seeing completion. Smartphone usage is still probably in the single-digits of worldwide cellular usage because (here it comes) all that technology is actually still pretty expensive and high-end.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze, to keep it simple, Macs = high end price range of PCs, iPhone = low end price range of smartphones. Macs as High end boutique computing for PCs makes sense because you CAN get 'kinda' the same functionality for a lesser price. High end boutique computing for mobiles DOESN'T make sense cause you CANNOT get the same features for less.
- vijay
Kenton, I don't care about credibility in your eyes. If I have to prove my credibility each and every time I have one of these threads I'd be here forever. If the topic interests you do your own research else get out.
- vijay
They're not angels, Vijay. Take a look at this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol... talk of a company that benefitted and still does of the opensource community! (in simple words, they introduced a kind of protection that prevents you from using your ipod with any other app!) AND they sent a DMCA notice to someone who was trying to solve this!
- directeur
Wait, I can't get a phone that makes calls, checks voicemails, goes on the internet and runs applications for cheaper than the iPhone? That's news to me. I'm saying that smartphones themselves are already the high-end and boutique strata of THE ENTIRE MARKET FOR PHONES. That Apple made the smartphone that has dominated all smartphones for 2 years now is not surprising given that they want to be best at high-end computing.
- Chieze Okoye
directeur, iTunes closed model is 'cause of the Big 3 and their DRM. But since DRM is not there anymore I still have to have to think out the 'why'.
- vijay
Vijay, my point is that it is totally opinion on your part yet you say it and defend it like you have some omniscient knowledge that the rest of us don't. Apple builds some great products and they have different ways of looking at design and product manufacturing. You're doing a disservice to the millions of companies in the world that focus on making people's lives better and actually do it.
- Kenton
Vijay, dude, honestly, if you just step back a bit, and look at it from what's obviously true, you wouldn't have to think about the why. They want to sell high-end and boutique computing. That requires selling a complete experience from A to Z. That requires tight control of what does and doesn't happen on their stuff, hence the tight reins of iTunes. Honestly, it's not a bad thing to sell that type of experience with real panache as Apple does, which is why I find your resistance to the idea puzzling.
- Chieze Okoye
multitouch, app store, full web browser and so much more features. Not the same. My Japanese friend who get DOCOMO's latest phone has a browser alright, she has this to say --->- http://twitter.com/perfect...
- vijay
do you know why she uses dots instead of spaces in her tweets? --->-http://twitter.com/perfect... 'cause of her sucky phone.
- vijay
ROTFL. The only phone that is well engineered enough to let you type spaces is the iPhone?
- Kenton
vijay, as someone who believes in free sowftware. I HATE this kind of closeness. Moreover the DMCA notice does not apply in that case. So why did they sent it? http://www.eff.org/deeplin...
- directeur
* wherever relevant I'm trying to find links to give you a better view so my replies might take longer. Also the thread is slowing down a lot *
- vijay
While it didn't have multi-touch (and really why is this such an important innovation?). My first Blackberry Pearl had applications, a full web browser (Opera) and better email functionality than the iPhone will ever have. Oh, and it had a space key that worked too.
- Kenton
Kenton, my point being every phone that touts "ADVANCED WEB BROWSER AVAILABLE" is actually not the whole story. There are different and varied shortcomings on all these phones. Now I'm pretty sure anyone could have understood that without me having to type it out. Don't ignore the point of my comment just for the sake of arguing.
- vijay
"multitouch, app store, full web browser and so much more features. Not the same." This makes no sense. It's a phone. That's the core functionality and that is the basic market that it is in. All the other stuff you mention goes into making it high-end. That's like saying Mercedes E-Class and Toyota Echo aren't the same thing because of a laundry list of features. Yes, they are different in the sense that one's is higher-end version of the same thing: A CAR.
- Chieze Okoye
yeah multitouch is a revolution. And before the iPhone EVERY. SINGLE. SMARTPHONE came with a stylus. Apple changed that and proved people that your fingers work just fine, that the screen won't scratch. HUGE.
- vijay
"it's a phone"... you were talking about "computing platforms" Chieze. Smartphones come under that not phones.
- vijay
or they're a hybrid of both markets.
- Chieze Okoye
without "apps" how is it a computing platform?!
- vijay
Anyway, I think that I've made all the points that I can make on this topic.
- Chieze Okoye
"Wait, I can't get a phone that makes calls, checks voicemails, goes on the internet and ***runs applications*** for cheaper than the iPhone?" You're missing the forest for the trees.
- Chieze Okoye
PAUSE: Why does Steven Se(a)gal support Apple? Does Chuck Norris support Dell? :p
- directeur
"goes on the internet" is NOT the same as browsing on a smartphone. I've already proved that with actual complaints of a user. I've no idea why it is so hard to see this.
- vijay
"turning hard right at 50 MPH in an E-class is not the same as trying to do the same in an Echo"
- Chieze Okoye
so compare prices with phones that offer the same features then
- vijay
Back to the altruism thing. Why doesn't Apple give the phone away for free? Wouldn't that be the best thing for the people? The most altruistic thing for Apple to do? Wouldn't our connected world be so much better if we all had the best smartphone and apps and all at the swipe of two fingers? If Apple truly wasn't in it for the money they could also subsidise the rediculous charges we...
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- Kenton
sorry I couldn't the right image but here's how much of a change iPhone has made --->- http://bit.ly/3gpf6U That's the iPhone beating an actual camera in number of shots uploaded. That's the amount of change iPhone has brought in.
- vijay
"truly wasn't in it for the money " - already addressed in my first comment here " Apple's about making -profits through innovation-."
- vijay
Nope. They are a consumer electronics company. They contribute to e-waste in the world. That's not making the world a better place.
- Rodfather
*pops more popcorn*
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Rod humans poop. That's not making the world a better place now is it? Maybe this would be better... Apple makes the world a better place for "people"
- vijay
Rodfather: You're a carbon-based life form. You convert oxygen to carbon dioxide, aiding global warming. Is it therefore valid for me to dismiss you as a polluter and ignore what other contributions you may give to the world?
- Kevin Fox
Well, ya, humans are like a virus to the world too.
- Rodfather
Has the unibody Mac actually made the world a better place for people?
- Kenton
Less waste and less repairs due to lack of moving parts so yes in a small way. What's next Kenton? Is it gonna be "does the apple logo make the world a better place too?".
- vijay
btw, for people who hate fanboys and automatically assume anyone talking positive about macs as a "fanboy" and then turn themselves into "anti-fanboys".. I've come across Apple fanboys too, see this thread ---->- http://bit.ly/1KYGwY ( click on "show hidden threads" )
- vijay
@vijay: Apple products may be better choice for a selected group of fans. For my needs, Apple products don't offer better value (more like the opposite). So, it's matter of taste what things are important and which company is the best for each.
- Jemm
it's a matter of taste only for people who have very specific requirements Jemm, not for normal folks. Like no matter how much innovation Apple pumps into iPhone I know my linux friends over here won't touch it with a stick.. why? Just because it's not open. THERE, it is a matter of taste. For regular users it's a combo of features + UI/UX + cost.
- vijay
Vijay, you say everything Apple does is about innovation so ultimately, I guess I would have to ask that question. It is likely more productive, though, for me to just say I disagree with your assertion.
- Kenton
yeah yeah, go ahead Kenton. It's not like I'm earning money from getting people to agree with me.
- vijay
ZOMG Someone's wrong on the internet!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
:D
- vijay
I would have to say that the market has proven your formula for regular users should be - cost+combo of features + UI/UX. Apple products appeal to those who follow combo of features + UI/UX + cost
- Kenton
Apple products appeal to a lot of people because they innovate. End of Story.
- vijay
Vijay, I'd argue it's more than that though. Plenty of companies innovate, Apple does something different. They tightly control the experience. It's a double edged sword for them, since it's also the source of their biggest weakness.
- mikepk
Mike, like I said to Alphaxion ... http://friendfeed-media.com/612df62... depends on how you define "innovation". Is innovation something simple removing the "text labels" next to the icon" or is "innovation" a game changer like the iPod or iPhone? Apple belongs to the latter category of innovation imo.
- vijay
let me confuse you even more guys! I'm a life-long windows user who loves apple but supports "open"! ---->- http://bit.ly/451tVV
- vijay
with this I'm off to bed. Thanks you guys for participating. Appreciate it. : ) EDIT: Mike, you're right. Nothing new about the tech in them. But UI/UX is what makes such a huge change. The Digital Music Revolution happened 'cause for the first time you could browse 1000 songs on your iPod without going nuts. No matter how game changing the tech is there's no point if you can't use it.
- vijay
But here's the really interesting part. Depending on your definition of innovation (technical innovation) there was nothing new about the tech in either the iphone or ipod. What they engineered though, was the end to end experience of those devices. I think the success of those devices is at least 80% due to the user experience (esp if you count 'cool' into it, but even 'cool' doesn't play as large a part as people often say). It's a holistic kind of innovation.
- mikepk
g'night
- mikepk
comments are not closed. I NEVER close comments. If you got more to discuss do keep going I'll reply in the morn.
- vijay
PC-World just published TCO for Droid, Pre, iPhone. http://www.pcworld.com/article... iPhone was by far the most expensive.
- Kenton
Kenton, I just looked at the article, looks like the prices were flawed originally and have been updated with newer Verizon pricing. Droid turns out more expensive (at least according to their logic). Lots of angry comments about how the author didn't check the Verizon smartphone pricing.
- mikepk
what Mike said. And Kenton... when I said iPhone 3G is 99 bucks only why did you assume I said "3GS"? 3G NOT 3GS, I said 3G NOT 3GS. I reapeated that 3 times so it can get through the thick illogical ati-apple sentiment hanging in your head. anything eh? anything, no matter how clunky the argument is, anything to take away credit from Apple eh Kenton? Open your mind up a little more.
- vijay
Besides, the whole "high end boutique computing" thing started by Chieze is flawed. That's like saying cars have not really changed human transportation 'cuz a large % of people can only afford bicycles and can't even dream of getting a car. Get this... smartphones are changing mobile computing and the one that brought it on and still continues to spur themselves AND their competition and the ENTIRE industry as a whole is Apple.
- vijay
Anyone who still has doubts about how much Apple has changed the mobile computing Industry, take a look at this ---->- http://bit.ly/s4jXC yep. EVERY. SINGLE. SMARTPHONE that you see in ads today, be it the dream or the droid or the Pre, were all the product of the change brought about by Apple. This is why Apple is a "game-changer", the entire industry has undergone a change for the better.
- vijay
While I enjoy my iPhone very deeply, I feel that one of Apple's biggest problems is that they now seem less interested in changing the game than in simply maintaining it. To be sure, there's very little incentive for them to fix what isn't broken, but my hope is that with others now stepping up to become serious competitors in the smartphone market, Apple will be forced to try a little harder. They make a fantastic product, but stronger competition may cause them to get even better.
- Noah Belson
Apple's different from other companies in that they are proactive than reactive. The common complaint when people say innovation on iPhone has stalled is lack of multitasking and flash which people expect Apple to include but as long as iPhone has a non-removable battery they won't be adding it in. Competition is always good, yes. I myself want the Pre for my next phone --->- http://bit.ly/2Z0yRi
- vijay
Interesting, I didn't know the battery was the reason they don't allow multi-tasking or a flash. Why is that? Are they worried that people will kill their batteries long before they're meant to die for good?
- Noah Belson
aye. with removable batteries suppose say in the middle of the trip your battery runs out you can swap it with the standby with other smartphones but since iPhone battery cannot be swapped out by the user ,running apps in the bg (mutltitasking) and flash would eat away the juice leaving a dead phone until you recharge it again.
- vijay
So they're just worried about people not understanding how quickly they'll run down their batteries by multitasking and using the camera flash. I guess that makes sense, but still, I'd rather they just allow it and let ME worry about how quickly the battery dies. Carring an extra charger in my car would be a small price to pay to be able to multitask without jailbreaking.
- Noah Belson
The entire business model of a closed system is to make more money.
- Michael W. May
Exactly Michael. Take away their profits and Apple's wheels come to a screeching halt just like every other business.
- Mattb4rd
Like I said in my first comment in here Apple's about "profits through innovation" not just profits by hook or crook like other companies. Hence this post.
- vijay
And it seems Todd said what I wanted, only better :)
- Michael W. May
how does it affect the fact that iPod has changed the entire music industry and the iPhone has changed the entire mobile computing industry?
- vijay
Apple hasn't changed much in the mobile market. It's share in both is still minuscule. For mobile stats: http://www.mobileisgood.com/statist... It's mp3/media player stats are much dominate, that I do not argue. None of that changes that fact that Apple is in business for profit. Whatever secondary guidelines of changing the world they follow, the primary and overriding is profit....
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- Michael W. May
my comment from above: " Anyone who still has doubts about how much Apple has changed the mobile computing Industry, take a look at this ---->- http://bit.ly/s4jXC yep. EVERY. SINGLE. SMARTPHONE that you see in ads today, be it the dream or the droid or the Pre, were all the product of the change brought about by Apple. This is why Apple is a "game-changer", the entire industry has undergone a change for the better. "
- vijay
again, Apple is "profit though innovation" not "profit by any shitty ploy we can think up". That's why they are the best company on the planet.
- vijay
"mp3/media player stats" it's not about their media player stats. Apple for the first time created an environment where people can carry a 1000 songs in their pocket. For the first time customers can buy JUST ONE SONG from an album than the WHOLE album. These two reasons combined laid the foundation for the digital music revolution paving the way for all the digital music stores like...
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- vijay
How did go about doing that? I don't deny any of that. But to ignore the amount of profit and lack of responsibility Apple's practices in digital music (remember non-drm'd mp3s only happened just this year) and the app store is to ignore that they are in many ways just as bad as any other company, in some ways worse. They didn't move to non-dmr'd music until forced. The profit they make...
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- Michael W. May
"they didn't move to non drm'd music"... wrong info. It was not apple's choice but the BIG 3 who had their say in that. The same thing happens on the iPhone where AT&T dictates the terms so Apple cannot allow any app that creates data overloading of AT&T's network.
- vijay
all the people whining about the app store restrictions shouldn't be... Steve clearly laid them out when they launched the app store --->- http://bit.ly/3hAnZ1
- vijay
And the inconsistencies with the app store approval, later revoking, later reinstating, etc, since? And what is wrong about the /fact/ they did not move to non-drm'd catalogue until forced to this year?
- Michael W. May
moving to non-drm is not Apple's choice. it's the record companies who make the choice. Apple sells the music under licensing terms with the record companies.
- vijay
app store has over 100000 apps now and the apps are rejected based on if it contains certain keywords in them. Once the dev reaches out and clarifies or adapts the app with the proper rating it is re-instated. It works just like any other "approval process".
- vijay
music drm related thread --->- http://friendfeed.com/jokeyxe...
- vijay
The Free Market catches on to "shitty ploys" rather quickly. Do you harbor such disdain for the marketplace that you doubt saavy consumerism? If so, Washington might be interested.
- Mattb4rd
Luckily Apple relies more on programmed consumerism than savvy consumerism. That guarantees a huge ROI with every product they sell and while I genuinely believe that some of their products are the best on the market, I'm not quite willing to back every play they make. I'd like my purchases to be based on what I want, not what a company tells me I need.
- Noah Belson
I have to add though that there are simply a few products that Apple cannot be touched on, such as the iphone. I did my research, tried several different things and found Apple to make the best product. If someone comes along and does better I'll jump ship (probably) but for my money it just makes sense to go with the best product. Doesn't mean I like all of Apple's products or policies but the bottom line is that if they make a truly great product- I'm there.
- Noah Belson
All of the programming in the world doesn't matter if the product is shitty. Apple makes good widgets. If they didn't, they would not be relevant. When they cure cancer, then I will jump on the "World Changer" business model bandwagon. Until then, they make good gadgets and we're [the market] willing to pay for them. It is not magic.
- Mattb4rd
Well yeah, I'd have to agree that they haven't quite earned the title of "world changer." Seems like that's mostly PR drummed by overzealous fans. Ultimately they're not doing anything that several other companies aren't also doing. They make some excellent products but the business of changing the world is best left to those who can do it without needing to sell us any electronics.
- Noah Belson
It's also a philosophy thing. As a user who is not interested in an outside party limiting my options, I went Android on my phone with the G1 when it came out, despite the iPhone being more polished since it had more development time behind it. I know the GooglyPhone will lag for a bit, but I'm happy to support the OSS. And as a PC user, I've been very happy with the lifetime and...
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- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Yeah, I can't see myself ponying up that kind of dough for laptop or desktop, not when the technology is outdated so quickly and rapidly improving so often. In terms of the iphone though, I'm less interested in availablity to 3rd party options than I am in the best and biggest apps and right now those are really only available for the iphone. And given the market share the iphone has captured- I can't see that changing anytime soon.
- Noah Belson
NEWS FLASH!! the world is not made of ONLY DISEASED PEOPLE! The lives of normal people count. The "world" includes EVERYONE not just CANCER patients. Life is made of different facets each having room for improvement and innovation. When people hang onto something and use it everyday for most of their activities as with a mobile phone, and a company makes a monumental leap in the way...
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- vijay
" But everyone else - especially when talking phones - is catching up" That is why it is called a "game changer". The entire industry as a whole changes to keep up. Just like how the iPod revolutionized music and just how iPhone is revolutionizing the mobile industry. Companies are now giving their UI NAMES! Sony calles their upcoming UI "Rachael" and HTC calls theirs "Sense". Can you...
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- vijay
my comment from above: " Anyone who still has doubts about how much Apple has changed the mobile computing Industry, take a look at this ---->- http://bit.ly/s4jXC yep. EVERY. SINGLE. SMARTPHONE that you see in ads today, be it the dream or the droid or the Pre, were all the product of the change brought about by Apple. This is why Apple is a "game-changer", the entire industry has undergone a change for the better. "
- vijay
Apple may have changed the smartphone industry but come on, they've hardly changed the world. The iPhone is not the cotton gin or movable type. Apple helps drive innovation, but in terms of actually changing the world, they're a drop in the bucket, if even. They make a great product, but let's keep things in perspective here. They're in business and their business has nothing to do with improving the world. That may be their mission statement or something but their goal is our money, first and foremost.
- Noah Belson
"drop in the bucket" is subjective. The graphs I linked to are not.
- vijay
All those graphs do is indicate how frequently certain keywords are being searched on. I'm not at all sure how that translates into "world changing." Keywords like "hannah montana" and "grandma sex" are highly searched on, but no one's thanking Miley Cyrus or sexy grandmas for changing the world, etc. Again- perspective. Apple has changed YOUR world, not THE world.
- Noah Belson
That's only cause you're reading the graphs wrong. Before the iPhone launch the search terms are "0" and after that it's been an accelerating trend upwards. That's the point. That is the change... the shift from "0" to "greater than 0". celebrities are people and smartphones are devices. People pay to watch other people on TV but how many people spend time watching a tv show about...
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- vijay
If you don't think the iPhone is the "celebrity" of the gadget world then I'm not sure what else there is to discuss here. Keyword trending is a popularity contest, plain and simple. The fact that people are searching on Apple keywords means very little in the greater scheme of things. And it has zero to do with changing our world or making it a better place. Apple products are what's for lunch right now and keyword searches are simply the menu.
- Noah Belson
before the end of today, 11 million people from across the planet will be visiting this page --->- http://bit.ly/3EnXJb Do you see an iPhone there? iPhone is a device, Celebrities are news. Calling iPhone the "celebrity" means squat because the people doing these searches don't think that way when they do these searches. They search for news and thus celebs have higher volume. That's all.
- vijay
from my comment above: "when people hang onto something and use it everyday for most of their activities as with a mobile phone, and a company makes a monumental leap in the way people use these everyday device, raising the bar and making the ENTIRE industry as a whole adapt to that change, the world has indeed changed."
- vijay
from my comment above: " Life is made of different facets each having room for improvement and innovation." Changing the world is not "mutually exclusive". When something as ubiquitous and often used by people as a mobile device undergoes a change, that is huge.
- vijay
the last few comments I've been talking only about the mobile device, but then Apple has done that again with the iPods.
- vijay
* i spoke too soon *
- vijay
Apple doesn't change the world, their fanboys may think so though. Apple knows how to market and they do it very well. Their products are nowhere near revolutionary as people make them out to be as they usually lack features that already exist. What they do well is get people excited about something shinny and clean looking with a brand people admire and it obviously works. I like shinny & clean but I like openness, full featured and cheaper much better.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Again, it's about the people who are using these devices. You think people like you and me make up the majority of the planet? Not hardly. We have freedoms and indulgences that many people couldn't begin to dream of. This why again I say that while Apple has absolutely changed the smartphone industry, they've done very little to change "the world." They make fantastic products but come, let's keep things in perspective. They're in the money making business, not the world changing business.
- Noah Belson
yeah Mark, before the iPods came out there were more "full featured" devices on the market with HDDs and lots of storage space. People got the iPod 'cause that UI is the only one that let people browse through a 1000 songs without losing their mind. No matter how much features a device has, it's all about usability. That's why you can see the iPhone beating a full featured cam in number...
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- vijay
"They're in the money making business, not the world changing business. " already addressed in my first comment > " Apple's about making -profits through innovation-."
- vijay
the people who keep saying it's all "features, features, features" must fantasize about women who have an elephant's trunk(longest nose on the planet! that's a feature!) and cheetah's legs(fastest legs! feature!) with a Falcon's wings(flight! feature!). As for me, I like the normal human female with nose shorter than a trunk, with legs not as powerful as a cheetah's and without wings. It's not about the best features, it's the blend of features and beauty(for humans, that would be -usability- for devices).
- vijay
Women with elephants' trunk? *Homer drool*
- Jemm
=P
- vijay
Excellent thread. Kudos.
- Mattb4rd
Vijay, btw, you misrepresented what I said. I'm saying that Apple isn't in this to change the world and make a difference. They're in it to be the best at high-end computing because that's what they 1) have a passion for 2) can do better than anyone else and 3) can earn the most money doing. The change they bring to the world of technology isn't the point. It's an after effect of the...
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- Chieze Okoye
There are plenty of companies and organizations out there with the actual mission to "change the world" and "make a difference," as their explicit goal, though. Apple most definitely does not number among them.
- Chieze Okoye
Simply because there is change in the industry in question from one company's actions (which no one is disputing with you, btw) does not mean that that change was why the company took those actions. Going back to the automotive analogy, Mercedes (or Ferrari or whomever) is not in the game explicitly to change the landscape of personal transportation for the better. They're in it to be...
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- Chieze Okoye
Honestly, you really should read "Good to Great" by Jim Collins. I can't emphasize it enough for this topic. It jives really well with the discussion (at least in that it shows you that passion to do something well and using technology as a means to that end is not a unique trait to one company).
- Chieze Okoye
Good point Chieze. Apple has the "Hedgehog Concept" down, but what will become of it when it loses its level 5 leader?
- Mattb4rd
PREDICTION: The problem FriendFeed will have is when it will be very popular (mainstream if you want), there will be so much content that you won't be able to see eevrything. A page refresh and tons of content is published. We will for sure miss tons of good stuff.
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a page shows say, 30 entries, between two refreshes, say there's 2000 new entries by friends and friends of friends... you see what I mean?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
We need some way to lens ACROSS content, to view things based on value / ranking / medium, etc. Already there's more content in even my shallow feed than I can comfortably follow, and few of my friends even use FF.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
One word: BLOCK ;)
- Mona Nomura
I expect we'll see more than you realize. Likes and Comments keep stuff bouncing to the top until you get a chance to see it.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm liking and commenting just to bounce ya twice. ;)
- Chrimmus Tad
Best guess is that hyper growth is already being foreseen with numerous solutions. These guys are good!
- Charlie Anzman
only if you subscribe to everybody under the sun. I'm sure scoble aleady has that problem here and on twitter
- Brett Kelly
Block and Hide aren't nearly good enough for the things I want to do when updates hit several tens per second. I, really, want things like Boolean filters of near arbitrary complexity, feedback learning, and flexible presentation ranking, just to stay sane.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
I'm telling you guys - Lindsay totally pegged it. FF is the site that just DEMANDS an Intelligent Agent to sift through the volcanic soil to expose the rough diamonds. If the FF devs have half a brain, they have a genius or two slaving away on that right now.
- Chrimmus Tad
I agree, lots of stuff falls through the cracks through out the day. I think the 'best of' was added for this reason. I haven't really used it that much though.
- Tsega Dinka
but all the good stuff is reshared... personally my eyes are trained to scan content quickly and efficiently. it weeds out what i'm interested in and not. if all else fails, there's always the "BLOCK" or "HIDE" options...
- Mona Nomura
Resharing is data-cluttering, as I see it. I want a system that unifies references to URLs, for one. It tells me where that reference is made from (Rooms, friends, likes, whatnot), but only gives me a single thing to look out for any given referent. The actual rest of info is just useful metadata for building lenses out of.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
You ask the wrong question with your prediction my multi-lingual friend -- the question is not whether we will see too much, but whether we will see enough? FriendFeed (with or without NoiseRiver) is an extremely good model for seeing "enough". NoiseRiver will allow the "noise lovers" to see even more :-)
- Robert Seidman
As more people join, simply being good at managing who you follow will be more important and should keep the noise down.
- Martin Bryant
Surely people like Robert Scoble are already at that level, he manages fine!
- Joe Dawson
:-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Joe's right. Bring it on!
- Robert Scoble
Especially if one uses small screens and apps like twhirl to view the feed...
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
We'll just need a CloseFriendFinder app to sit on top of FriendFinder
- Craig Thomler
I don't see the problem if there is the right method to represent the contnet, in a away that the fruition of it by the user would be easier...
- Edoardo Piccolotto
from twhirl
Yes. There is the potential for much more clutter here than twitter, for example. FF needs enhanced filtering tools.
- Ian Fogg
It's already happening for me. Need tags. Plus likes and comments only go so far. What if I like stuff only a few others like? How do I find that?
- Larry Huffman
if more of my friends were on FF I wouldn't be subscribed to so many people I don't know
- Samuel Bostock
the average user isn't going to be subscribed to that many people. and the mainstream will be much less "active" in terms of generating content than the hardcore early adopters. In short, I don't buy the argument.
- Jamie
The average user doesn't use the majority of features present on mobile phones. In Portugal owning a expensive phone is a status statement, but most of them could use the cheapest mobile in term of features used. With software and web services it's the same, people use just a subset of the features, and they have to be in front of them. Power users and all it's likes and dislikes are useful to test the limits of a application, but besides that are not the voice of God.
- Mário Pires
This is where the top posts of the day/week/month will come into play. I sure that someone will comment or like a post before it flits away. It does bear consideration though, put some brakes on the speed of posting perhaps?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
from fftogo
Maybe a combo of FriendFeed and Digg? people could set to only receive posts with X number of likes/comments...or based on the rep of the person posting...
- Craig Thomler
If i could create "groups" of people by subjects relevant to me perhaps it would be more manageable.
- Mário Pires
so there will be meta services (think summize). Cool. no problemo.
- john conroy
Just look at the Everyone feed. Only imagine articles with 1,000 likes (ala Digg) and 500 comments (ala slashdot). Some people may want the raw feeds, we'll need new filters/views/trails/signposts/guides/topics etc...
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mario Agree. GM script for Friends / Groups http://ffapps.com/filters/
- Hao Chen
I think we'll just end up hiding a lot more stuff
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I have the feeling that the FF staff will roll with the punches. Scalability!
- Steve Isaacs
@Robert Scoble: you WON'T be able to manage that noise. It's simply a mathematical fact. Say, you see 30 post, and between two refreshes, 20.000 entries are posted. The next page will show the last 30 of these 20.000 new entries. You will miss the entries in between. Liking or commenting from FOAF won't help. Because the flow will run... fast.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Prescient in Twitter's case. For awhile it was so for FF too. I don't know about now however; things are slower.
- Itachi
Phew! Who bumped this??! :)
- directeur
That would be me sir.
- Itachi
Hi, mohomed! That's so old, how did you find it? :)
- directeur
I was looking for a post with an mp3 attached to it from awhile ago that I needed, but couldn't find it. It's some soft of new jazz from Turkey. A bald guy with blue was attached as an image holding some sort of instrument. But I stumbled across a bunch of good other old posts.
- Itachi
Could it be Mercan Dede?
- directeur
You continue to amaze me monsieur http://friendfeed.com/directe... Thanks so much!
- Itachi
Thank you! Tout le plaisir est pour moi, Dhanaan! :)
- directeur
Group shot from the LA FriendFeed Meetup
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Top left to right: Amani http://friendfeed.com/mirthna..., Mark VandenBerg http://friendfeed.com/mvanden..., Shevonne http://friendfeed.com/dcfemel..., Me http://friendfeed.com/krynsky . Chillin on the sofa: Anika http://friendfeed.com/fabooma..., Derrick http://friendfeed.com/geekand... & don't forget Anika's beautiful kids.
- Mark Krynsky
+++++ very kool! whos the hottie in the purple??
- Carlos Ayala
yeah i said it!?!?! what!
- Carlos Ayala
I was thinking the same thing, Los
- Bren -- Still Believes
Sweet!
- Rodfather
That's "Shevonne"
- Outsanity
OMG Amani! And Shevonne (HOTTIE)!! And Mark! And Mark!! And DERRICK!! And your GORGEOUS kids!!!!! Thanks for sharing!! *edit: Should I be scared I named you guys w/out looking at the caption? I think I have a problem...
- Mona Nomura
Now I'm jealous :P
- BeeLing
[envy]
- Kamath (नमः)
Success!
- l0ckergn0me
Thanks to Anika and her husband for hosting. We had a great time. And for the record...Derrick is everything you think he is AND a bag of chips.
- Mark Krynsky
قرار فرفري اينا رو..ميرن خونه هم
- αida®
Great.
- Tsega Dinka
Depends on what you think he is tho...
- Outsanity
Derrick's ok. Mark K. tried to get me drunk on some South African booze that was discovered by monkeys. No joke. Everyone was the bee's knees, and if you aren't following them, you should. They will enrich your FF experience.
- Derrick
I was a little bummed we didn't have Mo & Morgan though but we're already talking about a 3rd meetup and I already volunteered to host it.
- Mark Krynsky
This pic turned out nice. It was that camera of yours Mark. That was fun and the traffic getting there didn't even aggravate me. Derrick's ok too! LOL... ;-)
- Amani
Wow! That's great!
- Randy
Great, great pic!
- Josh Haley
Way to go!!
- tony
Oh yea and we missed Pea too!
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks Anika for hosting!!! You all are super cute!
- Shevonne
Oh puhleeze Shevonne. You're the one with the million dollar smile :)
- Mark Krynsky
Now THAT was a moment of win if I ever saw one!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Great photo! What the hell is my boy doing? Freak! It's great to have met you all.
- Admiral Anika
Superb! If only someone could sponsor a flight ticket to LA ;)
- ◄ani625Ξ
LOL LD
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Awesome! More meetups like this please. Also, what ani625 said :-)
- vijay
Love this.
- felicious
You guys, rock!! Cheers, congrats and a standing ovation for all of you!
- George The Writer
Glad you guys had a great time! Of course, with such fun people in attendance it was a given that you would have a blast.
- ♥patricia♥
love this :)
- Baard @ Pixum
*morning after bump*
- Josh Haley
YAY!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
that's chill. adrian didn't kick you all out? lol
- Cee Bee
You all look like you had a wonderful time.
- Helen Sventitsky
Great pic and great group, looks like y'all had fun!
- Trish R
Shevonne and Anika look great! It sounds like you had a great time, and your home looks lovely, Anika.
- RAPatton
Love it, good to see FF's meeting up irl!
- Sally Church
Awwww...thanks RAP. Her home is very eclectic. I loved it!
- Shevonne
Beautiful people! Great pic!!!!! I'm glad y'all had a fun night! <3 FF
- Carmen
Awesome pic. Wish I was there with you all. But damn, you are all sexy peeps! What's up with that?
- Morgan Haley
Morgan! We missed you but Anika's re-enactment of you ice skating at the first meetup was classic.
- Mark Krynsky
Hopefully she made me look better than I actually did!
- Morgan Haley
JEALOUS!!!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Morgan, we missed you!
- Admiral Anika
I'll be there at the next one fo' sho'!
- Morgan Haley
Bump for the good times.
- Mark Krynsky
:)
- edythe
Yes, Facebook, thank you so much for your *amazing* suggested friend feature. A grandmother type with a crazy sweatshirt and another with her pants pulled down around her ankles. I'm so impressed with your uncanny ability to find just my type of new friend.
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I thought these were suggestions made by other people not the automatic "you know their friends so you must know them" method?
- CAJ, somewhere else
Yes, the "suggested by" gives it away. It's not the "you might also know…" automated recommendation. It says more about your friends than it does about Facebook.
- Mistletoe Glen
That was my understanding too. These are friends your friends suggest. Interesting circles you run in; I can't imagine a real person putting that rear shot as a profile pic on fb.
- Kenley Neufeld
from iPhone
sometimes I acidently end up accepting these as they feel just like actual friend requests. That bottom new friend might take some explaining to my wife. Facebook ought to consider letting users turn this feature off if they'd like. I know I'd turn it off.
- Thomas Hawk
That's hilarious. I always get recommended people I already know that are new to FB
- Francine Hardaway
The really question is did you friend either?
- RAPatton
haha, no, neither. I was tempted to friend the grandmotherly type since we've got 12 mutual friends but I have no idea in blazes who she is.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm more impressed with the 305 messages in your inbox.
- Kevin Pedraja
I'm so terrible with my email/flickrmail/facebook mail. I try and try and just can't keep up with it all.
- Thomas Hawk
Im less likely to subscribe to either .. unless I know them ,,,
- johnpiercy
I have 587 unread messages in my Facebook inbox. I actually read all them through e-mail, and there's no good way to mark all as read. Facebook sucks for e-mail-like communication (as does Twitter).
- Jesse Stay
At least facebook should not show the same suggested friends again and again once we hit X on it but it does show them repeatedly. Very annoying :(
- Muhammad Ahmed
Facebook is so lame - just sayin.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
inbox 305 whatt :D this lol
- mariamaqdalena
i currently have 4647 unread messages on facebook :/ lol
- Geoff Jackson
What a contrast.
- Carolyn Chan
4647 is alot Geoff. I hate all forms of email myself actually. It feel burdensome feeling that you have to respond to someone or risk offending them. I much prefer interacting with people directly in forums like FriendFeed or DMU on Flickr in public than one on one. Email should be reserved for things that really do need to be kept private.
- Thomas Hawk
LOL...What would you do w/o FB?
- Tammy Marshall
Tamara: Use My Space? lol
- Geoff Jackson
Thomas: Yeah my Facebook is pretty hectic and I although I do read my messages on there, I can not keep up with them at the rate they come in. I rarely use email at all these days though unless it is to send files to someone. I just hope one day i will not have to find an old message on Facebook, haha
- Geoff Jackson
I am so with you. It's annoying. I spend the most time on Facebook x-ing out people I've never heard of that might be my friends. It gets better. Yesterday I got a notification - where my high priority Scrabble and Lexulous pings turn up - of some guy, never heard of him either, that had just joined FB and did I want to suggest friends. WTF?
- Cathleen Rittereiser
it seems to periodically (weekly?) refresh the suggested friends....
- Jason A. Samfield
Bobby B.
Alex Scoble, Daniel J. Pritchett, Kol Tregaskes and 27 other people liked this
Wow. Just wow.
- veo
Love it. Kanye West is totally going to copy that in two weeks or less.
- Ginger Makela Riker
That hair was his prerogative.
- Admiral Anika
This is a man.
- Derrick
Don't be cruel. He would never be that cruel to yo-ou.
- Admiral Anika
Gumby!
- Shevonne
So young.
- Ayşe E.
Shevonne, you're totally right. Never made that connection before.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Everything about this is ill. The glasses are the piece de resistance, though. And, Ginger, that haircut was, in fact, called "The Gumby".
- Jason Toney
I once wore my hair in a Gumby cut...all cuz of the Every Little Step video. Yeah...glad there are no pics!!!
- Carlton Hackett
Classic. My favorite era.
- Tsega Dinka
Every little step you take...
- Andy Bakun
The glasses make him look smart.
- nakachi
...don't be cruel... ;)
- JA Castillo
lol
- Anna Haro
@Carlton Hahahahhaa...I knew a guy who sported the Gumby cut
- Shevonne
lol, my version of The Gumby http://i.friendfeed.com/653202d...
- Anna Haro
Too cute, Anna.
- Admiral Anika
This is back in style now! my son now wants a flat- top!
- Monica Massey
This is why he has a million kids. How could he not be awash in poonani looking this mackadocious in 1988?
- Jason Toney
Damn, Jason. x_x LOL
- Derrick
Dizzy Gillespie: Portrait of Jenny (Perception 13) - http://reynaldo82.blogspot.com/2009...
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Decline of a Los Angeles house (from $904,000 to $660,000 - 27% drop in 2008)
Daniel Rowley, Benjamin Golub, Jess Lee and 17 other people liked this
This is the house of a college roommate. Luckily he purchased in 1997 at the bottom of the 1990-97 housing crash in Los Angeles, so he picked it up for ~$200,000 (it was a foreclosure, so he saved ~$50,000). But boy you would have been in MAJOR trouble if you bought this house last year.
- Mitchell Tsai
In Los Angeles, we saw a 50% drop in some houses' values during 1990-97, so we were already prepared for over-valued housing markets. Some of my friends sold their houses 2-3 yrs ago, and started renting, since they figured the market was already over-heated. (See Economist's full-issue on the housing bubble 2-3 years ago).
- Mitchell Tsai
A more expensive Beverly Hills house dropped a little less - 16% this year (chart) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
Dang!! that's really something
- Susan Beebe
See another Santa Monica house (my aunt) which dropped 14% in 2008 (chart) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
Houses in our old neighborhood were about $259K when we moved in in '98. By the time we moved away in '06, they were averaging about $975K. Just read the paper this morning that that zip posted -14.2% drop in house prices, so now the average home is about $1.24M. Keep in mind these are 1500 - 1800 sf homes on small lots.
- Admiral Anika
Anika: You can type in your old address to see the Zillow estimates. People who purchased before 2004-2006 are probably ok, but if you purchased an inflated house - whoa....! This house is back to Jan 2004 prices (Santa Monica home is back to Jan 2005, and Beverly Hills home is only at Jan 2007). My parents home in Ohio is 2,032 sq ft (with full basement) on a 1/2 acre lot for only $168,000. Los Angeles prices are nuts...
- Mitchell Tsai
Oh, I Iived in an apt.so I wouldn't have been impacted.
- Admiral Anika
Darn, Anika! I thought you cleaned up nicely on your house... :-(
- Mitchell Tsai
No, my husband firmly believed that paying more $100K for a house was ridiculous, so we didn't. Not that I mind, I really didn't like living in that area.
- Admiral Anika
Adjusting for inflation (CPI-U), this house was purchased for $306,000 (in Nov 2008 dollars), so it's still about 116% too high (possible bubble). The Santa Monica house is 101% too high, and the Beverly Hills house is 71% too high - assuming that the original prices weren't already inflated (bad assumption) - so lots of room for the housing bubble (aka Ponzi scheme) to fall further.... Unlike companies, houses don't produce anything. Year 5000, these houses will be dust (but the land may have value).
- Mitchell Tsai
There were some interesting articles (~10-20 yrs ago) on how the advent of the "2-career" couple put upward pressure on house prices - pricing many homes out of range of the 1-career family. Real estate is a funny cross between the "problem of the commons" (overgrazing community property) and a "ponzi scheme" (pay the old owners with money from the new owners) - especially since the prize might be a better school district for your kids. Tough problem.
- Mitchell Tsai
Just priced out the home I grew up at in Huntington Beach, CA and it was now valued at $571,000...big drop...it was up to $896,000 about 4 years ago. My parents bought it for about $70,000 in 1975. They used to own 10 or so homes, but sold them 1 by 1 for cash
- Susan Beebe
Susan: Adjusting for inflation http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2... $70,000-75,000 (June 1975) is $277,000-297,000 (Nov 2008), which says your old Huntington Beach house could still be 92-106% too high...
- Mitchell Tsai
holy cow...that's not good! I cried when I wanted to buy a house in OC...not a chance
- Susan Beebe
Mitchell how far do you think prices will really drop though? that's the tough question to answer
- Susan Beebe
I think the drop depends on the economy & jobs. Remember how Texas houses got super-cheap after the oil bust in the 1980s? Los Angeles apartment rentals in 1993-95 got super-cheap after CA could pay it's bills, and UCLA tripled it's tuition (2 bedroom for $500-600/month!). I hear that a LOT of people are buying first homes now due to the lower prices & banks needing to resell the homes (e.g. that's how my roommate got his house so cheap in 1997 - a $50,000 discount from the fair value from the bank).
- Mitchell Tsai
Right... I do remember the TX housing bubble. Of course I graduated from UCLA in 1992 and the prices were NOT cheap (drove in from Ventura everyday... PCH was great commute! :)
- Susan Beebe
Popular estimates in the press - another 20% drop? But it really depends on your neighborhood.
- Mitchell Tsai
Susan: You're lucky you didn't buy in 1992. One of my UCLA friends bought a house in 1990. Around 1997-99, he declared bankruptcy because he was upside-down on his mortgage, and I helped him buy a car after the bankruptcy. Imagine that you are 21 yrs old, and for 7-10 years (age 21-31) your house is going negative. So his accountant suggested that he sell. If he had waited 5-10 more years (2002-2007), the house would have started skyrocketing... but that's a long wait (and due to the internet bubble).
- Mitchell Tsai
Wow, that's quite a story...poor guy. Housing costs was one of my pet peeves about CA living...just too dang costly. Eventually I left in 2000 and have since owned beautiful homes in NY that would have easily cost 10x as much in CA
- Susan Beebe
Awesome! My parents house in Ohio ($168,000) would be ~$4-5 million in Beverly Hills ($4 million for the 1/2 acre of land, and $500,000 for the house).
- Mitchell Tsai
Right ...my current house would easily be 4+ million if it was in BH. I live right off the Irondequoit Bay (near Rochester Canoe Club) where I can walk down to the water in about 10 minutes down the hill. Fabulous home on 1/3 acre land with fabulous expansive views of the bay (all rooms but 3 see the bay), plus we got a great home with a low price tag$! :D
- Susan Beebe
[Update 10/15/09] House has risen to $743,000. Value has been going up since Jan 2009's low of $658,000.
- Mitchell Tsai
Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.
Nicholas James, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah, Wins Fern and 94 other people liked this
I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive
- Loic Le Meur
nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!!
- Susan Beebe
can't wait - gimme more ;o)
- Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe
from twhirl
very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released.
- Rob Diana
okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct?
- Lou Paglia
This might get me back into Twhirl.
- Akiva Moskovitz
and it has FF rooms support!
- Loic Le Meur
The question is when ?
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there...
- Orli Yakuel
looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;)
- Phil Coyne
from twhirl
yes... when?
- Mike Wills
@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet
- Susan Beebe
in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Super! When!??!
- Florin Grozea
from twhirl
looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
Great ! Thanks
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best
- Ruben Llibre
none of them working in linux TOO BAD!
- Yassin Alvandi
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr?
- Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password.
- Daniel E. Renfer
from twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
so is seesmic cool now?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
How do we score the test ver? :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
You tease. Where do I download it?
- Rafe Needleman
Cannot wait, big Guy!
- ledretch
I want... When?
- highcenter
from twhirl
Can't wait!!
- Danish Khan
from twhirl
actually it will be pushed in an hour or two
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Can't wait!
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side?
- Romain Péchard
from twhirl
I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in.
- Brendan Cosgrove
from twhirl
How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list.
- Rafe Needleman
from twhirl
We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
wait, what exactly is the difference between Twhirl and Seesmic? I thought Seesmic was replacing Twhirl...
- Piero Ardizone
This looks awesome!
- Svartling
I think this what im looking for!
- Michael Scott
Wow nice work, I really like the improvements made :)
- Jeunelle Foster
awesome!
- barbarars
wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen
- mike "glemak" dunn
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE.
- Shawn Farner
Low Fashion Close-Up: Monique & Derrick on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Jason Toney, Laura Lou Who, John (a.k.a. dendroica) and 43 other people liked this
I love Monique's bitchlips in this pic. But I'm not looking half bad, hence its my avatar.
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
we are so hot in this picture.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
Monique looks like she's gonna cut someone for staring at her man too hard.
- B. Hatin
Never get tired of it, Mo. This pic should make Mel a superstar along the likes of Gordon Parks and Ansel Adams. Yeah, I said it.
- Derrick
Sassy!
- Mona Nomura
stunning
- Tsega Dinka
I love this picture, you guys are so f'in cool!!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
We aiight. ;)
- Derrick
Mo, can we play Barack and Michelle in the Spike Lee mini-series coming soon on BET?
- Derrick
hahahaha @D
- Anna Haro
You guys, this picture was taken the first day Derrick and I ever met each other, so it really means a lot to me. It's speshul, just like us.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
How did we manage to keep our hands off each other?
- Derrick
Well, there's that whole you're gay thing.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
Labels!
- Derrick
Where you guys meet at?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Whoo - yeah! That's what I'm talkin' bout! Sizzle me sideways you two look hawt :)
- WorldofHiglet
I don't care about you being gay actually. I still want us to have a child together just so I can have the pleasure of calling you my baby daddy.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
LOL
- Melissa
Don't laugh Melissa. You're totally the god mother.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
<333
- Carmen
oooh yay
- Melissa
Hrm...Gay guys get all the chicks.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Ooh look! The new Forbes came today!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
We do, Rah. We totally do.
- Derrick
Rah: Only Derrick cause he has +++++charisma
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
and my TWA was looking really cute in this pic if i must say so myself.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
If I could blush, I totally would. :)
- Derrick
*bumping* so WoH can see what my hair looks like when it's longer (and who could ever tire of Mo's infamous bitchlips).
- Derrick
I love this picture!!
- nakachi
You guys are so cute. :)
- Rochelle
Ro, we're just trying to catch up to you and Audrey. :)
- Derrick
Me and Audrey don't have balack stylz.
- Rochelle
DO ANYBODY NO WHY NOT?
- Derrick
Love it.
- Michelle
We're too white. :(
- Rochelle
Poppycock.
- Derrick
D you are gorgeous anyways -but here you are RARWWRRRR! And that's Mo? You would make lovely babies!
- WorldofHiglet
Digital Family Summit Photos | lalawag - http://lalawag.com/digital...
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- sean percival
from Bookmarklet
NetNewsWire 2.0 for iPhone, with Google Reader Sync, Is Out Now - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre...
Eric Geller, sebastian☆rocket brother, Wayne Sutton and 5 other people liked this
And about time too... Seemed ages.
- Michel
Poll: Has iPhone OS 3.1 screwed up your phone? - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
Neil Bernhart, Andrew Terry, Simon Tracey and 12 other people liked this
"t's pretty much as reliable as the sun: a new iPhone OS update generally leads to at least a handful of issues. But iPhone OS 3.1, which was made available on September 9th, seems worse than most. We've seen tip after tip pour in, and we've watched Apple's support forums grow increasingly ugly with irate iPhone users dealing with horrid battery life, random shut downs and the occasional screen freeze. A few of our own have also experienced some of these quirks, though others have escaped without a scratch. So, we're putting it to you all -- has the latest iPhone update borked your handset? If so, in what way?"
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
I had to restore mine after installing it - totally buggered up the little thing. After the restore and subsequent repeat upgrade, it has been working fine... Snow Leopard however, now there is a story I will be telling soon ;)
- alphaxion
When I was installing it, it borked, so I had to restore mine too. Then the next day, it wouldn't turn on. I had to do a hard reset.
- Derrick
matt is having problems with his. i am not updating it until this is resolved. 3.0.1 for me.
- Carlos Ayala
Bought my 3gs last week on the same day the update dropped and it has been working fine. *crosses fingers*
- Jim Is Not Smart
mine's still chugging along... :-)
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I'm holding off on updating mine until they get the kinks worked out of it.
- vicster is...
I bet this is why there is not jailbreak ready for this one yet.
- Amani
shut down 3 times in last 3 days :(
- Serkan Unsal
Having shutdown issues here with the 3G model. There is a jailbreak for 3.1 for the 1st Gen and 3G models. I was having issues before and after jailbreak.
- Matt Hilton
Matt, is there? I'll have to look for it. I updated my 3G without making sure there was a jailbreak first (or thought I'd be fine without it for a while), but I'm going crazy without my jailbreak apps. I haven't had any issues with 3.1, though.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Can't remember what I used last time. redsn0w sounds right. Directions were from a ReadWriteWeb article, I think.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
New PwnageTool available at http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
- Matt Hilton
lots of shutdown problems on my 3G too.
- metalerik
No issues personally.
- Stephen Mack
I'm waiting on the Windows version of the jailbreak but I'm freaking that I haven't heard about the problems with 3.1. Maybe I'll wait a bit longer.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from iPhone
I keep having an issue where it won't respond once it's locked. it's also just been so slow since 3.1 too
- Simon Tracey
from BuddyFeed
Well I downgraded back to 3.0.1 which was a pain, but its seems to be running fine. I'll let you know if the phone continues to shut off. I followed the instructions here and it worked for me on my 3G: http://www.redmondpie.com/downgra...
- Matt Hilton
mine clunked out during the upgrade to 3.1...had to do a restore...
- Jeffrey Marsh
Bluetooth streaming profile ad2p doesn´t seem to work on my 3.1...
- Thomas Bøhm
Jailbroke mine at 3.1 yesterday. Working well so far.
- Matt Mastracci
No problems here - but I don't jailbreak my iPhone.
- Bill Sodeman
Amani, I used PwnageTool form the dev blog (listed higher in this conversation). Took a long time, but it worked.
- Matt Mastracci
No, not that i've noticed
- Chris Heath
3.1 has screwed up the ordering of podcasts for me - they are now no longer date ordered but in some magical order that only steve knows. date order pretty please
- h1ro
I hate the playlist order thing. Please Apple fix this thing soon!!
- eyeonpower
from iPhone
hey @techcrunch, a little credit would be nice ya know: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Today was the last day of LA Greekfest at St. Sophia church. A few photos from the day. You can see more photos at my flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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I can't wait for Pasadena Greekfest...next week!
- Admiral Anika
Are you going on Greekfest tour?
- Joe
No. We always go to the two events.
- Admiral Anika
Nothing tastes better than fresh Greek, sliced thin on a warm pita.
- Chris Baskind
#4 is awesome
- Adrian
Greek food. YUM!!!
- Helen Sventitsky
The food today was not so yum. The food at the Pasadena Greekfest is usually better and cheaper. Still, this one is bigger and has more space to sit. This year, I think the theme was Sexy Women are 50. The younger women looked like slobs in their jersey dresses and oversized eyeglasses, compared to the very put together and stylish 45 - 60 year old crowd.
- Admiral Anika
Workin' those heels at Greekfest. Dios mio.
- Karma Martell
Those shoes are...something. Oh, funny: Walking back to my car, a couple walked past me. The girl was complaining that her feet hurt. The guy asked her why she wore those shoes (not the ones in the photo) and she said they were cute. I then informed them that they still had a ways to walk to get to the festival. She said, "Let's go home."
- Admiral Anika
LOL
- Karma Martell
Opa! I lived in little Sheboygan, Wisconsin thirty years ago, and believe it or not they have a large Greek population! The Greek Festival was one of the annual highlights there, and always a good time.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
=) It's Greekfest season here in SoCal. I think that after the 26th, they'll all be done. I've been told that I have to go to the ones in San Diego and Santa Barbara because they're HUGE!
- Admiral Anika
The banner in the second pic seems a little confused about which culture it's celebrating. There's a spring Greek festival in my area, but it's always a very small, one-weekend affair.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Not really confused. This church is in the historic Byzantine-Latino Quarter. It's a very interesting part of LA, completely ignored by the hipster set because it's a little too brown. The only time some people venture to this part of the city is for the Greekfest, which is a shame because there are a lot of great stores there and you can learn a lot about LA history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Admiral Anika
Oh, I should mention that in celebrating the heritage of the Byzantine-Latino Quarter, tonight was salsa night!
- Admiral Anika
Recently my cousin's head was run over by a car. This is what's left of her helmet. My cousin completely survived because of this helmet. Please think of this before riding a bike without a helmet next time!
Harold, Michael Pardee, Amy and 80 other people liked this
I've ridden only once without a helmet in as long as I can remember. Felt vulnerable!
- Adam Loving
from StumbleRead
It's true. They work.
- Andrew Feinberg
wow... that's amazing. how old is your cousin jesse?
- dave mcclure
dave, my cousin's 30, just 1 year younger than me
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
You can read her story, in her own words here. I'm inspired: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
This happened to a friend of mine at the beginning of the month. He didn't do so good in the accident, but the helmet obviously saved his life. Thankfully is on his way home tomorrow: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit...
- Steve Lacey
I used to ride my bike without the helmet even though it is mandatory in Chennai, India. But after reading this I am not even going to the next street in my bike without helmet.
- Sudar
I never wear a helmet. When hearing things like this, I always think of this article.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1.... In the Netherlands no one wears a helmet. It seems safe to me.
- Peter Stuifzand
I was hit while riding to work in summer 2006 & did not want anyone to touch my helmet at all costs. If my brain was scrambled, I did not want anyone to touch my egg:) I highly recommend a helmet especially if you think you will not need one! Mine was almost the same color too & manufacturer, but there is no conspiracy there:)
- Roney Smith
Bicyclists/motorcyclists that don't wear helmets are better called future organ donors
- Brian Sullivan
that's incredible...
- Jamie Allen
from twhirl
Wow, glad to hear your friend is doing well after that. I agree, helmets save lives. Regardless, I've many intentional close-calls by drivers who don't want to share the road. Unfortunately, this is the common attitude where I live (southern US).
- pete
we wear helmets for everything: mtb, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skateboarding & even surfing - skulls are fragile why not put a protective layer around it (i also try real hard to not ride on streets - a high percentage of drivers are oblivious to bike riders)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I always ride in my helmet and stay to bike lanes as much as possible. Nice to know the safety tools work. Now, if I can just avoid that NYPD cop with a penchant for knocking people off their bikes. Hopefully, he won't transfer to LAPD.
- Jason Toney
Peter Stuifzand, my cousin would be dead if she did not wear her helmet. That article is BS. Wear your helmet!
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Point blank. You are a moron if you ride without a helmet. Sorry, but that's true and you're just going to play into Darwinian theory should you continue to ride without one. Any 'real' cyclist (e.g - you've been hit by a car - and yes, I have been) will tell you this without reservation. Helmets work without a doubt.
- AJ Kohn
I survived a nasty motorcycle crash in my youth and would also be dead without that helmet - which cracked in 2 like an egg (that would have been my head, as the nurse aptly put it!).
- Susan Beebe
A friend who's a cop refers to motorcycles as donorcycles whenever she sees someone riding without a helmet. I figure that applies for bicycles, too.
- ha3rvey (just a friend)
I was on the way to work Monday morning while it was raining, when the third car in front of me spun out of control and flipped twice into a ditch. When I pulled over to help her out she was just fine. She only had a scratch on her left shoulder from the broken window and was not hurt anywhere else. THE REASON: She was wearing her seat belt. It's nice to hear that these devices are actually helping us!
- David Cook
Awesome. I ride my bike to work everyday and I see a lot of people with no helmets on. I don't know how they do it.
- Clint Ecker
Wow! I wear mine! Didn't for years - I was lucky I guess. Thanks for posting that!
- matthew hunt
OMG... Jesse, do you have a link other than here on FF? I have friends whose kids refuse to wear theirs, and seeing this may help.
- Cyndy
Cyndy why not just link here - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Brian Sullivan
Dutch don't wear helmets and they don't get killed by cars http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterd....
- Peter Stuifzand
Actually they do get killed by cars. But culturally they are not inclined to wear helmets.
- Brian Sullivan
Cyndy, with this being dug out of the grave, I just noticed your question. That particular picture is from my cousin's blog here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... You can read the full story here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... Search for "run over by car" and you can read about her entire ordeal.
- Jesse Stay
My brother would not be alive today if he did not wear his helmet while riding his motorcycle; please wear a helmet!
- Sandra
man
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
If it's nice enough to ride, I probably won't be bothering with the human-powered bike any longer. I always wear a helmet on my gas-powered bike.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
As long as we won't have mountains, we Dutch will not wear those things. Otherwise we won't be able to recognise the tourists on bikes.
- Ton Zijp
Thanks for sharing - I had a mishap with a car, wasn't wearing a helmet at the time, was lucky. If they don't see you, it doesn't matter either way. Wear the helmet!
- Rick Bucich
This isn't as extreme as this but when I fell off my bike onto a sidewalk and broke my arm, I thought I was fine for a while. Later, my dad noticed that the whole front of my helmet was all scratched up and the visor in front was torn off! I realized that if I wasn't wearing my helmet on the 2 minute trip down the road, I probably wouldn't be typing this comment right now! Not that I'd be dead but I would have suffered some head damage, limiting my ability to do most things.
- Kevin Lyons
Helmets for cyclists are mandatory in Australia. Still gives me the shudders when I'm travelling and see bareheaded bicyclists on the roads.
- Kate Foy
Proof that Google is racist.
Anton, George Moga, Sathish and 170 other people liked this
holy shit...
- Rafael
Uh.. WHOA!
- Linda Lorie
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the people at Google put this in there on purpose.
- Akiva Moskovitz
lol - conspiracy!
- Jesse Stay
They may want to add an exception for that, though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Oh... My...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
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are u serious thomas? wtf?
- teymur madjderey
annoying popup, but... http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-bi...
- motownmutt
If you're banking on Google to recover your car after a grand thief auto, you might want to try other resources. Bing?
- Micah Wittman
Me and my family just picked ourselves up off the floor and dried our eyes after ROFL'ing profusely at this...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
LOL! <sarcasm>I am going to go talk to the Race Czar's about this immediately!</sarcasm>
- EricaJoy
if you search for "blakc peolpestole my car" you can see the same result.. just change for the correct one and take a print screen... hahaha this is hell funny
- Rafael
FAIL!
- Wayne Sutton
huh...I tried both and neither gave a 'did you mean....' Why the difference?
- George Gray
George, this was from earlier. I think it's probably been fixed by now.
- Thomas Hawk
I can't reproduce the results either. Even more proof that Google's damage control department works real f-a-s-t
- BLOGBloke
I can reproduce these results (as it's fake). 1 - Do a google search for 'balck people stole my car' 2 - when the results come back, in the search box type 'white people stole my car'. 3 - Screenshot and fool everyone.
- Will Higgins™
Thomas...ah...I was catching up on my feed and didn't notice when the message posted. Still, I have noticed different results when using Google from: the browser search bar, going right to google.com and when logged into google via iGoogle. Weird.
- George Gray
This just made my evening.
- © b e e n s w a n k
This reminds me of how commercials for home alarm systems always feature white criminals.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva - As not to offend us colored folk. ;-)
- © b e e n s w a n k
Dude, you win 1000 times over for use of the word 'colored'. I'm about as far from a racist as you can get but that shit cracks me up every time.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The term 'biatch' always cracks me up - in any context.
- © b e e n s w a n k
これはひどい
- as365n2
Really sooo bad..
- FFTornado
i think that google isnt racist, but people that use it yes..infact google shows firstly the most popular results.....this is my opinion..and please apologize me formy english..i'm italian!w La pizza!
- Lyssa
they did it as the Chinese government did.
- xiawinter
seems they fix it somehow.
- Mike
Lyssa's right. Google is a mirror.
- Jim Is Not Smart
*Now* "white people stole my car" beats "black people stole my car" in a Google Duel, 3:1
- Tim Tyler
Ouch. Well, i agree.
- Zachary TG
I sense a really nasty meme being created :-(
- Ian D. Nock
That's it, I'm going to Ask.com! lol
- Bryan R. Adams
paranoid approaches.
- Tolga Akmazoglu
I posted that a couple days ago and someone debunked it almost immediately.
- Ben Hanten
再現できないが.....
- jz0f
The Chinese did it.
- Kittyburgers
google is funny! i stole the car
- HansVanRock
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too much cuteness and win in one video. I can't hang.
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Best Wu video?
- Remo
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Good song and video for sure. Is this from the RZA solo album from like 3 or 4 years ago?
- Adrian
and he gets the girl... falling on your head is so tragic. to answer Adrian, I believe this is from back in 96-97 cant remember the name of the album.
- Tate DA FF MVP
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cool, not cool?
- sean percival
Very cool. But it can't be one-size-fits-all right?
- Andre P. Siregar
I would prefer another style but it´s definitely a great idea
- esther ♥ ♫
needs to come in black too
- sean percival
Needs to be available now.
- Andy Bakun
Web forms design guidelines: an eyetracking study - http://www.cxpartners.co.uk/thought...
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A nice e-commerce checklist from CXPartners on the same topic — http://www.cxpartners.co.uk/thought....
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