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Please stop using ISP email (Gmail is free!). I just discovered that one relatively common ISP seems to be blocking some of our emails because they include the url http://groups.google.com/group... (with that removed, the message gets delivered).
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Spam filtering is too complex to be left up to random perl scripts or whatever these people use. Several months back, a different ISP was blocking our email because the from address included the word "friend" (as in "friendfeed.com").
- Paul Buchheit
i've noted a similar trend as well. most people on isp email (ahem, comcast & earthlink) have a setting that kickbacks anything that isn't coming from an approved list...and the default msg manages to come off as both retarded and pretentious in a "i need to stock shelves of canned food in preparation for y2k" kind of way. i think earthlink's notice even suggests you to CALL the person you're trying to contact so they can add you to their approved list. very annoying.
- James Miao
Sadly, for most people, using email that isn't provided by their ISP is like using a phone that wasn't provided by the phone company before Carterphone. You're playing with dangerous wiring, and 'who do you call if the bell doesn't ring?'.
- Robin Barooah
Big deal, Gmail is currently blocking yahoo-inc.com addresses. It is a hard problem and no one does it perfectly.
- Sam Pullara
Sam, it's very unlikely that they are blocking all of yahoo-inc.com. Perhaps you did a "Report Spam" on that address previously? (which could cause blocking for your account) Regardless, the fact that nobody is perfect does not excuse those that are awful.
- Paul Buchheit
Maybe it wasn't obvious, but just because an ISP is blocking some email messages with that URL in them it doesn't imply that the spam filter that it has is awful. It probably has just gotten a lot of spam with google groups urls in them.
- Sam Pullara
it is interesting how many people stick with their ISP email service. I guess it is hard to change your email identity especially if you have used the one you already have for long.
- Davide D'Incau
I was just going to post a question about best practices re: startups sending email. I am sending email directly from a server with SPF, domainkeys and DKIM all setup correctly. Yahoo still seems to want to put our emails into spam folders for some users. Any pointers on what to avoid (the emails I am sending are very short and contain only some text, a link and a unsubscribe link)/how to debug?
- Arvind Sundararajan
As far as I can tell, there aren't any great options. Some startups that don't have to send much mail just route it through Google. I think there are also some equivalent paid services, but I don't know how good any of them are. As you recall, even Gmail had trouble getting past broken spam filters sometimes.
- Paul Buchheit
I haven't used ISP mail for the best part of ten years. I've changed ISP three times in that time, so it would have been a pain in the ass and expense to keep telling everyone and reprinting cards etc. It's worth paying for a domain for that reason alone, or, nowadays using reliable spam-free email like Gmail. (I gave up on Hotmail and Yahoo way back).
- Ian May
gmail works great for me. I do not see any spam on it. Only stuff I am expecting to find there.
- Davide D'Incau
For our 20-person company, we've been using Google Apps + IMAP very happily for over a year.
- Jeremy Dunck
Even people in my own relatively tech-savvy family still use @aol and @earthlink addresses. It's not that they don't want to use Gmail or similar upgrade, its that they don't want to give up an address that they've had for 10, 15, 20 years. Weird when compared to a few generations later (kids today), when email addresses are treated as disposable identities. However, comcast and earthlink should just outsource email to someone more ... modern.
- DeWitt Clinton
I find it strange that people use ISP e-mail because they want to keep their e-mail address. My parents have changed their e-mail address at least once when they changed providers. Also, their ISP only offers POP3 access. No IMAP. Of course, of the free e-mail out there, only gmail offers IMAP (that I know of).
- Robert Felty
The only reason I haven't completely chucked my AOL mail is because I want to keep those screen names for IMing since I've had them for forever and a day. Unfortunately some family members only know me by those e-mail addys, so it's been a slow uphill battle to get them to start switching to either my hotmail or gmail accounts. I'll win one of these days...
- Hookuh Tinypants
Amanda: you can login as your AOL screen name in Gmail and chat there http://mail.google.com/support...
- Benjamin Golub
Oh I don't use the AOL app for anything anymore. I'm all web-based anyway, and I use Digsby for chat. But the problem is that if I cancel my AOL account, they will cancel my screen names. Which means I will have to get all new screen names because they don't release canceled names back into the wild for like six months.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Not sure what you are saying -- that everybody should only use Gmail? There is a whole range of email providers out there -- free, not free, self managed, outsourced with varying degrees of spam management. Gmail is better than most, but still screws up.
- Brian Sullivan
Back when we got our service from Verizon, they not only included a Verizon email address, but also bundled in MSN, including an msn.com (hotmail) account. I haven't checked the former address in years, but use the latter for my IRL personal communications.
- Ontario Emperor
I son't see any problem with a FFer promoting a given web service in their posts. Happens all the time in fact. Gmail is free and ISP email usually sucks. If you don't like gmail there are other options and you're free to post about them. And if Paul's talking about the same ISP that I have, they pull this kind of crap all the time.
- Vicarbott
Point taken, but the tangential question is why do you use a google group as your main vehicle for user support?
- Laura Norvig
Laura, I actually just replaced the groups link with a link to the friendfeed-feedback room. My point however is that I should not have to worry about a groups.google.com url or some other random detail causing email to get blocked by some dumb filter. I noticed another ISP that blocks our daily-summary emails whenever they include amazon.com links (from someone's wishlist). FriendFeed is full of links, so these naive filters will always cause problems for our users.
- Paul Buchheit
As an aside, I'm not quite sure that FF is yet profiting from our data. Google certainly is because of the ads, but FF isn't quite there yet...
- FFing Enigma
V, I would bet that Gmail protects your privacy better than your ISP does. That said, I agree that there should be multiple competent email providers. I wish that Gmail would open up their sender reputation data, since that's the most powerful and reliable bit in the spam filtering equation. However, even if they do that, most ISPs will still suck because they don't know better, don't care, and their customers don't realize what's going on.
- Paul Buchheit
Are there really ISPs who don't give end users control over whether to use the ISPs spam filters or not? I have ATT, which uses Yahoo Mail, and I can choose whether to use Yahoo filters or get the raw feed (and I do both, on different accounts). I do wish Gmail would let me POP/IMAP my spam folder, if I so chose, some of my Gmail accounts are obscure enough to never get spam and I don't want to miss anything.
- Tinfoil 2.0
"I would bet that Gmail protects your privacy better than your ISP does". Having worked at an ISP all I have to say is "here here!". People think Gmail is evil because they "read" your email to put some ads on it but don't care if your ISP sends your email through something like an IronPort to detect spam.
- Benjamin Golub
The irony is that those same heavyhanded span filters can't be particularly effective otherwise span would have been rendered cost ineffective by now.
- Robin Barooah
I said the same to mum in email tonight... she uses aol she sent pictures of her and dad on holinday in texas...they never showed..crap... i set up a gmail account for her..hopefully she will use it. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Every time Verizon/Yahoo gets a twich, my Mozilla Thunderbird goes down and cannot access the servers. But my Gmail still works. So I would like to go with GMail, completely, but, would I still be using the Verizon/Yahoo servers? Is GMail available through its own servers? Not completely savvy about this. Chris
- Chris Conner
Well, in defense of that ISP... Even Google doesn't use Google Groups, for some of its products because of the spam presumably.
- Space Cowboy
I might have to go ahead and delete my Facebook. Who's with me? I hate destroying what I built there, but it's just getting worse and worse. I'm tired of having my data harvested by these people. The sad thing is, Facebook owns FriendFeed, my network of choice.
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They haven't affected it yet, but they probably will eventually. I guess I'll just have to leave things the way they are.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I recently deleted mine, too. I'm tired of their shenanigans.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
I only keep it for a few friends and my son.
- just ZONED
I've been thinking about it. I would need to draft a letter to people on my fan page. I expect most of them *wouldn't* sign up for an occasional mailing list...
- Spidra Webster
I only stay on it b/c of some friends and family who are on it. That, and my scrabble games with those people. :) I don't post anything important on there.
- Katy S
I'll probably create a new account, but it'll be extra stealthy.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
I keep hearing more and more about how they're selling our data. It's making me ill. I hate large corporations. Do you think they're messing with FF too, though, since we're owned by them now? I could never delete my FF. Not under any normal circumstances.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I'm not leaving facebook. As I've said before I have mine set up the way that I want it and I feel pretty comfortable. As for the news that came out earlier about facebook possible selling data I will quote myself: " I'm not surprised. All these social networks have all this data and need to make money. Sure, I don't like it, but I'm not surprised that MANY of them are doing. It isn't just facebook people!"
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Personally, I find myself mostly immune to advertising, don't use any apps, and block app messages from appearing... not perfect, but until there's a replacement I don't see a viable alternative. The price seems small -- they may sell my personal information, but its value seems so close to nil that I really don't care. Connecting with friends in a not-completely-exposed-to-the-world...
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- Nathaniel Thurston
I'm tempted to reactivate (I deactivated with the December anti-privacy changes), pare down and lock down and keep just a pointer to somewhere else where people can find me... BUT, I'd still be subject to getting tagged and other nonsense. "...nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure"
- Tinfoil 2.0
You can keep yourself from being able to be tagged.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
The privacy stuff is bad enough, but the wanting to be a centralized identity server for the web is what's really freaky. If they succeed, you'll be forced into having an account, just so you can log in at other sites that use their connect features. It's not that way now, but they said at the developer conference that that's the direction they're heading in.
- Mr. Gunn
@Mathew, I sort of recalled that, but of course things are subject to change without notice, so whatever minimal thing I would set up would need periodic attention and maintenance, kind of defeating the purpose of attempting some minimal pointer to elsewhere o_O
- Tinfoil 2.0
Magazine Preview - The Data-Driven Life - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2010...
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"We make decisions with partial information. We are forced to steer by guesswork. We go with our gut. That is, some of us do. Others use data. A timer running on Robin Barooah’s computer tells him that he has been living in the United States for 8 years, 2 months and 10 days. At various times in his life, Barooah — a 38-year-old self-employed software designer from England who now lives in Oakland, Calif. — has also made careful records of his work, his sleep and his diet."
- Jon
from Bookmarklet
Updated our home page with what we've been working on with @comiXology: http://plausible.coop -- it was a lot of fun!
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Every citizen to have personal webpage - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...
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Funny Hugh Laurie & Stephen Fry comedy sketch! 'Your name, sir?' - BBC comedy - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Ommwriter, the Beautiful Text Editor - http://www.dekorte.com/blog...
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The Most Important Drink of Your Day: Restaurants + Bars: GQ - http://www.gq.com/food-tr...
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didn't take you for a GQ reader
- Jerry Perez
it was in one of my usual feeds today.
- Veronica
Ah, Well now I've been sucked back into these GQ posts. Can't afford these wonderful clothes. Oh well. I love how the 'budget' clothes are still around 200 bucks.
- Jerry Perez
no kopi luwak on that list. lol
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
true.
- Veronica
V, there is still some serious delay between tweets and when they appear here on FF. Who's the culprit?
- Jerry Perez
Fwd: Digging on this old Edison footage of Sutro Baths http://www.youtube.com/watch... (via http://friendfeed.com/peterme...)
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Jamreilly to Jamreilly's feed, Arts and Culture, Minds on FF, Culture & Society, Polytopia/collective intelligence
Unicolonial Ants Pose Challenge to "Selfish Gene" Theory - http://scienceblogs.com/primate...
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"It has been a mainstay of evolutionary theory since the 1970s. Natural selection acts purely on the level of the individual and any cooperation observed between organisms merely hides a selfish genetic motive. There have been two pioneering theories to explain cooperation in the natural world given this framework: the first was William Hamilton's (1964) theory of kin selection and the second was Robert Trivers' (1971) theory of reciprocal altruism. However, both of these scenarios break down where it comes to unicolonial ants. In a paper in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution (subscription required) Heikki Helantera, of the University of Sussex, and colleagues at Rice University have investigated how previous theories to explain cooperation don't apply for these unique supercolonies."
- Jamreilly
from Bookmarklet
But aren't they an individual? Just like we are super-organisms. Just because there is thin air between something, does it mean its two objects?
- Alexander Kruel
".. 'The extreme cooperation of unicolonial ants has been suggested to be an example of selection occurring on levels higher than the individual, such as the superorganism, group or even population.' ..Group selection is the idea that, under certain circumstances, genes will be selected for because they benefit the overall success of the group rather then simply the individual. While it...
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- Jamreilly
Often ant colonies differ from most multicellular organisms - since the workers and the queen are not 100% related.
- Tim Tyler
Devices - Shiny Devices - http://shinydevices.com/devices
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"See those two screws at the bottom of the picture? If you connect those screws to a switch of some kind, and plug the whole thing into the USB port of a computer, the switch will act as a one-key keyboard. This one happens to be an Enter key."
- ⓞnor
from Bookmarklet
$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)
- Paul Buchheit
It sure is pretty though
- Jesse Stay
surely this could be done more inexpensively with an atmel or pic with usb
- joshua schachter
Or the guts from an old mouse.
- Ken Sheppardson
This is an elaborate AFD joke by Jacques, right? (Edit: by "joke", I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the description is accurate, but kind of underpromises what it can do.)
- Andrew C (✓)
Wow, he got shinydevices.com? That's a pretty good domain! Also, this device is way, way prettier than I expected. I'm really impressed by how pretty it is.
- niniane
It is kind of pretty. Who is making these?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: When I first read "$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)", I thought you were talking about an actual Apple product.
- Gabe
^^^^ like :)
- A. T.
@Gabe :D
- Jemm
Having a real "any" key is probably totally worth it.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Dan was kind enough to manufacture the plastic casing pictured. It is indeed prettier than I had expected!
- Jacques Frechet
I've been thinking about hacking up a cheap USB keyboard (a la http://www.instructables.com/id... ) for a project. This device looks like it'd be easier, prettier, and possibly smaller, but $33 does seem a bit steep considering the fact that USB keyboards can be found for less than $10, and it sounds like I'd need several of these if I want to control multiple keys.
- Laurence Gonsalves
What's the project, OOC?
- ⓞnor
I was just thinking to make pedals for modifier keys, particularly shift and maybe also control, possibly starting with piano-style pedals like these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store...
- Laurence Gonsalves
How 'bout starting with some USB dictation transcription pedals?
- Ken Sheppardson
I hadn't heard of those before. Thanks. From my searches, it looks like they're for "rewind", "play/pause" and "fast-forward". I'm guessing there are special keycodes for those? I could probably remap them to the keys I want with software, but it'd be nice if they could be more "plug-and-play" (so I could move the device between machines without having to set up mappings). Do you know if any of these transcription pedals are configurable through hardware (eg: dip switches)?
- Laurence Gonsalves
BTW: I've actually seen a few companies that made exactly what I'm looking for, but they all seem to be discontinued. This page has a bunch of links: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea...
- Laurence Gonsalves
Laurence: I'm afraid all I know about them is that they exist. Sorry.
- Ken Sheppardson
Laurence: have you seen this? http://www.piengineering.com/custom...
- Gabe
...or to cut out a whole lot of work: http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys...
- Ken Sheppardson
Those products from piengineering look good. A bit pricey ($119.95 for what is effectively a 3-key keyboard) but they seem to be programmable, and I guess economies of scale work against them.
- Laurence Gonsalves
If you keep increasing the pricetag you'll reach the Optimus 3 Mini, the 3-key keyboard with separate LCD screens for each key. $179.95.
- Amit Patel
Amit, I think the Optimus 3 uses OLED screens, not LCD. Presumably that's why they're so expensive.
- Gabe
The impressive part about those devices seems to be the reprogramming of the device ROM via USB directly from this web page http://shinydevices.com/setting... (check the source)
- Thomas Amberg
Iranian Recipes: Sholeh Zard - http://www.iranchamber.com/recipes...
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Rice pudding! Again, tasty foods know no bounds...
- FFing Enigma
Believe me, it's very delicious!
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
I believe it! The rice pudding I make is similar, only no rosewater and includes an egg. I do tend to add cinnamon and nuts to mine, though, so perhaps I should try this version.
- FFing Enigma
واي خيلي دوست دارم شله زرد
- Nedaッ
me toooooooo
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
That's too pretty to eat.
- Roger Benningfield
Absolutely!
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
شخم
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
"No Kevin," Judy said quietly. "You talk about the capacity for evil, but that's just an excuse. Human nature is not about the extremes that a few people go to;... - http://billburris.blogspot.com/2009...
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Secret stuff the FriendFeed team has been up to at Facebook (Tornado, real time framework). Just released:
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From: http://twitter.com/fbplatform Tornado: Facebook's Real-Time Web Framework for Python http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Robert Scoble
Check out blog from Bret Taylor: http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Robert Scoble
That's really exciting news
- Jesse Stay
I deleted some comments to keep this on discussions about Facebook's new Real Time Framework.
- Robert Scoble
Do I need a Facebook account to use this? I deactivated mine last year, still resisting reactivating
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
More over on Bret Taylor's FriendFeed about this: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Robert Scoble
thanks! great!
- Harold Cabezas
Sounds nice, i'm out to read the documentation :)
- Diego Sana
Oh yummy....
- #alaskareport
Are developers racing to get all of this established before Google Wave launches, or would they be developing it anyway? It's all changing so fast now, this Granny can't keep up with it all, (and I am still waiting for Facebook Lite to be available here in UK. I hate and detest those blasted applications!)
- Technogran
Holy Porn - Catholic Church Investing in the Porn Industry - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs...
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"The Christian Brothers, one of the largest investors of Catholic institutional money in the world... invest billions of dollars for over 1,000 Catholic dioceses, religious institutes, educational institutions and health care organizations. Following a change in ethical policy guidelines the United States Catholic Conference of Bishops in 2003, Christian Brothers Investment Services now have investments of tens of millions of dollars in companies that make sizeable profits from commercial pornography. "
- Jamreilly
from Bookmarklet
How do I become a paid porn-investigator?
- Alexander Kruel
brian dettmer: cassette tape skeletons - http://www.designboom.com/weblog...
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Cassette tape skeletons??!! Wow, someone is creative!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Denote: the easiest way to email yourself notes from the iPhone - Little Itch blog - http://littleitch.com/blog...
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"Denote version 2.0 is now available on the App Store for $.99 USD. This version makes it even easier to use your email inbox for notes and reminders on the iPhone and iPod Touch. The most exciting new feature is that notes are now sent without leaving the application for a faster, smoother experience. This change also makes it easier to send multiple notes in a row. In addition, the email subject intro text, which still defaults to “Denote:”, can now be changed to any value, including setting it to be blank. Even the application icon got a little polishing."
- Jon
from Bookmarklet
"I hope you enjoy these new features. Let us know if we can do anything to improve Denote. Juana Molina’s Un Día was the unofficial theme for this release. The title translates to “one day” which is how long we wish releasing software took."
- Jon
Direct App Store download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jon
Direct iTunes Album download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jon
I can't wait to try this out. The first version made my life easier in very key moments.
- jonathan
Very nice. Is there any way to pick which email account the mail comes from so I don't have to change it every time I send a note?
- Casey Muller
That's a global setting on the phone. You can change that in the Settings app, in the "Mail, Contacts, Calendar" section, change the "Default Account" setting.
- Jon
The one I want for Denote is different than the one I want to send most mail from, but thanks.
- Casey Muller
Cool - the ability to change the intro text means I can use it to send tasks to omnifocus
- Robin Barooah
Oh.....99 cents!
- Michael Muller
I still think that's too little, but I understand it.
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Thanks for mentioning Juana Molina.....I created a new station on Pandora and "Un Dia" came up after a while. I especially liked the rhythm. And it was great to see all the artists new to me on that station. I am so conservative, just the same old Julieta Venegas and Shakira.
- Michael Muller
Her entire discography is amazing. We saw her live a few weeks ago; incredible show. If you get a chance to see her, I highly recommend it.
- Jon
Hacker Section - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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where is that?
- Robin Barooah
I know Casey had a subscription to 2600 when he was eleven or twelve....I remember noting at the time that the magazine could not be sent to any prison. Did you also subscribe?
- Michael Muller
Not a wimp! Just operating in stealh mode, very effective.
- Michael Muller
How old were you two when you first went to Defcon?
- Michael Muller
my coffeefaces
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I never thought about looking for faces in coffee. That's a new game I'll have to play. Good eye!
- Marc Ferguson
))) they are allways different! ))
- Anastasia Zhe
I saw an eagle in my coffee, I wonder what that means ? - coffee reading - I think yours says you will be happy and surprised today :-)
- Zara Lockwood
Giz Explains: How to Actually Make Coffee - How to make coffee - Gizmodo - http://gizmodo.com/5345785...
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Cocoa With Love: StreamToMe - http://projectswithlove.com/streamt...
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"The StreamToMe application lets you use your iPhone or iPod Touch to play music and video files — in a wide variety of formats — streamed directly over WiFi from your Mac. If you connect the video-out cable for iPhone/iPod, StreamToMe can play through your TV, turning your iPhone/iPod plus Mac into a home media center."
- Jon
from Bookmarklet
I just purchased and set this up. It works perfectly.
- Jon
When are we getting a videophone?
- Michael Muller
henri cartier-bresson and eisenstaedt in lego - http://www.focus.it/Communi...
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the henry - thx for inspiring me w/your post
- Barbara R. S.
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I have a couple Banksy pieces tattooed on my calf.
- Derrick
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