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Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 12 noon PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
Mall traffic down 60 pct, shopping shifts to mobile and ecommerce. http://goo.gl/pr8jtn - clive boulton
The wifi here is very loaded, going to try LTE - Kevin Marks
ok calling now Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin call news gang three - Tina Chase Gillmor
LTE will be better - guess - Keith Teare
Try again, hit wrong button - Kevin Marks
Testes, 1, 2... - Doc
Doc lol - Tina Chase Gillmor
Aloha! - Nir Ben Yona
As long as I'm on the right side of the hill - Kevin Marks
Doc Searls! - Matt Terenzio
That's what he said to his Mum: "Thanks for having me." - Doc
well we had a false start...; about to go again - Tina Chase Gillmor
Traffic was last thing I heard. Not Steve Winwood - Matt Terenzio
I have a hard stop at 1:30, btw. Just saying. - Doc
here's the tech crunch link http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hm now on hspa - Kevin Marks
I still have the attention recorder on - Matt Terenzio
What's up? I'm self muting - Kevin Marks
Spot on Keith - Scott Jordan
Spoken like a true U.S. citizen - Matt Terenzio
Skype crashed - Kevin Marks
radio shack and staples closing stores. shopping shifting to apps. - clive boulton
I'm going back outside, reception was better - Kevin Marks
40 years ago President Nixon resigned over bugging the Watergate Hotel, whilst Obama survives bugging the Nation! - Moe Glitz from iPhone
seeing the grout in Docs fireplace - stunning HD - clive boulton
In fairness, Obama didn't bug the nation, he just won't debug it. unbug? - Matt Terenzio
Obama's oversees everything, right. Or is he going to be 12 Years A Slave - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm wondering if I should climb the hill - Kevin Marks
Or go up on the roof Kevin - Moe Glitz from iPhone
kevin i think you can hang where you are - Tina Chase Gillmor
we just have to ride the mute - Tina Chase Gillmor
This is a house, if have to go in someone's room - Kevin Marks
I'm muting, found the button - Kevin Marks
Not gonna lobby hard for it. But would love to hear Doc's thoughts on Comcast - Dale Lature from Android
Walmart having an aisle for earbuds and headphones surprised me music this healthy. - clive boulton
AIM vs. MSN Messenger vs. XMPP - Matt Terenzio
What does Doc think about Indie Web Camp's efforts? Is he a supporter? - Alex de Soto
XMPP is doing a lot of work to get push notification and carbon copies of messages sent between devices. - Simon Tennant
Foremost in my mind since Time Warner buyout happened ans started reading Susan Crawford book from last year - Dale Lature from Android
Salmon protocol - Matt Terenzio
Too many Mobile Messaging Silo's will stifle communication - Moe Glitz from iPhone
XMPP was invented to overcome this, but it's been ignored or perverted by many companies using it, e.g. whatsapp - Doc
Holding phone with friendfeed chat...watching broadcast @steveGillmor Gang on Kindle in front of me on elypses machine pumping the pedals at the Y - Dale Lature from Android
Kevin's report on comments flowing back resonates after seeing JPs blog comments on different channels - clive boulton
This is all a little like AT&T before Carterfone. Except now every app is their own AT&T. - Simon Tennant
agreed, simon - Doc
Something Cooking in the JustMe Lab? - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Registry is VRM multiplexer... - clive boulton
Sounds like it Moe - Tina Chase Gillmor
how does the picture look today, folks? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Every picture looks fine Tina, apart from Kevin's - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Picture looks terrific except for Kevin's (obvious bandwidth issue). - Alex de Soto
Doc: There's a lot of good stuff coming out of XMPP. Especially as a signalling channel for new webRTC apps. - Simon Tennant
yes, I just joined but Kevin's is the only one that is showing variability - Charlie Isaacs
Most important is the user identifier (@name or user@domain.com etc). Then transport. - Simon Tennant
Yep, Kevin is out and about - busy, busy. glad it's looking good - Tina Chase Gillmor
Simon - remember realNames :-) - Keith Teare
/me shudders :) - Simon Tennant
Hope Keith cracks it - Moe Glitz from iPhone
there are many identifiers - @twitter; +CC-Phone-Number; Email@address.com - handls - they should all work - Keith Teare
I'm =matthew - Matt Terenzio
But mostly since I really think that the longevity of these systems is becasue they need to live outside of a single corporation driving it. - Simon Tennant
Don't disagree but somebody needs to step up to initiate - Keith Teare
title bars are a bit "upgraded" for this show. Sporting a "G" logo on it - Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh Superman - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Keith - XMPP Standards Foundation is (full disclosure: I'm a board member). - Simon Tennant
Hi Charlie - Tina Chase Gillmor
Discussion on this from yesterday http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewe... - Kevin Marks
Keith that sounds like what Indieweb are doing - Scott Jordan
Hi Tina, I just excluded you from my last tweet, out of space. When are the increasing that darn character limit anyway? :) - Charlie Isaacs
Kind of hard to believe there arent more on this show wanting to talk about danger of Comcast....maybe as it gets worse - Dale Lature from Android
Skype crashed again - Kevin Marks
Charlie... you can leave me out. quite OK - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin's on LTE... - clive boulton
Tina :) I'll just tweet your "goodbye wave" pics - Charlie Isaacs
Keith: where does this registry live? - Simon Tennant
Normal people need simple things. If you want to make people control their own Communication Channels you need a simple brand. Chat DJ! - Moe Glitz from iPhone
How come Kevin is always outside somewhere? Will no one let him inside? :) - Dale Lature from Android
Hdspa sadly - Kevin Marks
Add context-awareness to a comm system like that and I'm sold. - Alex de Soto
Charlie...OMG what if I'm having a bad hair day? like everyday! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Inside has worse reception - Kevin Marks
Research on signalling WebRTC over XMPP, pretty cool http://dbis.rwth-aachen.de/cms... - Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: The &Yet guys are doing great work on this. Look at their open source oTalk webclient. - Simon Tennant
Don't we need like 4 particular companies to work together and they never will? - Matt Terenzio
Get Offa My Cloud - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Video looks great. Looking at Doc's now - Dale Lature from Android
Thanks Simon - Charlie Isaacs
Dan getting all indie http://dangillmor.com/2014... - Kevin Marks
Interestingly AT&T is one of their customers. :) - Simon Tennant
Dan has always been indie, no? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Go Telco on the mountain - Matt Terenzio
good one Matt... too long for show title though - Tina Chase Gillmor
Matt T, I do that religiously - Charlie Isaacs
Tellco u love me? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hanging on the Telephone - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Do you think that a blank / absent ad model is good because ... (1) it was free of advertising and thus, was a primary reason for growth, or (2) that the absence of ads provides a blank slate to lay down the type of ad format in a space with an already large following? - Chien-Yu Lin
I want 007 as my iBeacon identity - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tina - you never have a bad hair day! And besides, the way you run the board is beautiful :) - Charlie Isaacs
one ringaling to rule them - Matt Terenzio
simon - in the cloud - Keith Teare
aww, Charlie. You're such a charmer ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
We helped Nebraska Crossings Mall with a beacon project, they're using it for car-locator services currently (I know, yawn) but they are hooking up the retail stores on phase II - Charlie Isaacs
My Ding-A-Ling - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Keith: Does "in the cloud" mean a single company? - Simon Tennant
The cloud was originally not that - Kevin Marks
you can also trigger built-in functions from beacons like "dial a number" to call for help, or video chat, or...back to xmpp :) - Charlie Isaacs
And while we are at it let's break up Twitter. there is a new wave of messaging tools out there! - Matt Terenzio
The net is the cloud - Kevin Marks
I really like how email solved this: you have an identity that lives with a provider. And those providers intercommunicate with eachother. SMTP was invented 30 years ago. But we're still grappling with this same problem on other protocols today. - Simon Tennant
So everyone has their own Mini Cloud through a Beacon - Moe Glitz from iPhone
It could. I'm less concerned about that so long as their role is thin and glue - Keith Teare
email+ - Matt Terenzio
Simon - agree re SMTP and IMAP for example - Keith Teare
email + privacy + realtime - Matt Terenzio
email++ - Matt Terenzio
Shame that Microsoft has so many dark clouds - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Say hi to Anselm - Kevin Marks
someone just photo bombed the Gillmor Gang! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Should I go find Dan? - Kevin Marks
Recommender systems should take off in the enterprise if all channels flow back (as they did in consumer). - clive boulton
can you guys generate some show keywords for the seo - Tina Chase Gillmor
MicroSoft should freeze Windows development, maintain yes, but move on , accept Linux and Android - Scott Jordan
WhatsApp, Beacons, Cloud - Moe Glitz from iPhone
"guaranteed a lifetime of dull employment" - Simon Tennant
thx Moe - Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is tackling and chasing the hard problems. - Chien-Yu Lin
Amen on google, Doc - Dale Lature from Android
Simon... Did Doc just say that? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Google people even turn up at webRTC meetups. Much closer to the hacker ethos. - Simon Tennant
Comcast wont do it without beingvforced to - Dale Lature from Android
Tina: Doc said that. Great quote! - Simon Tennant
Really OS X is "Windows" built on BSD, so is Chrome. Microsoft can do the same. - clive boulton
Simon... yes, agreed. thx - Tina Chase Gillmor
That and they are well positioned to be the defense and security contractor for the US. - Chien-Yu Lin
2014 and we are finally deciding we got the OS right and it's . . . Unix - Matt Terenzio
I prefer Google vs Comcast since Comcast is the dangerous one - Dale Lature from Android
Ms is not dangerous because theyve lost so much relevance - Dale Lature from Android
Comcast and the other Telecos are Dinosaurs - Scott Jordan
Our nephew just went to Google. it was surprising - Tina Chase Gillmor
Microsoft is about execution (which is really about risk aversion). - Chien-Yu Lin
Windows Azure uses Unix (backfitting desktop Windows could happen) - clive boulton
I originally learned to code on BSD, love that people are embracing UNIX again :) - Charlie Isaacs
Did you see that WhatsApp was running on FreeBSD? - Matt Terenzio
Gang should also talk some day soon about Google Fiber and its position visavi Comcast - Dale Lature from Android
Google needs to start making their Services pay off, so that in the next couple of years it takes 50% of their revenues - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+clive - correct, check out this page: http://bsd.org/ a lot of flavors of BSD - Charlie Isaacs
For the future of Advertising, Google should have acquired Twitter a few years ago - Moe Glitz from iPhone
They tried - Kevin Marks
Evan, et. al. never would have sold to Google. They did that with blogger. once was enough. - Doc
Should have tried harder Kevin - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Scott, problem with the dinosaur that is Comcast is that it is still alive and eating - Dale Lature from Android
Outside of the tech world, is anyone really complaining about Microsoft? It is like SAP - enterprise complains about it - but not really. - Chien-Yu Lin
Next time I'll check LTE reception first - Kevin Marks
YouTube could be a huge money earner if managed right - Moe Glitz from iPhone
They are no longer excited by it, they are excited by phones and tablets - Kevin Marks
Bing is on Linux, btw. - Doc
They need to kill Google+. No one has time to shift to another Brand - Moe Glitz from iPhone
We wouldn't be here if the content wasn't worthwhile. As always, another great show. - Chien-Yu Lin
darn, what happened to the Tina wave, did I miss it? :) - Charlie Isaacs
@chien-Yi Lin: +1 - Simon Tennant
aww Charlie.. you miss wed my bad hear day.... darn - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey chat room, Steve just told us we were just like Bruce, Die Hards http://www.gonnageek.com/wp-cont... - Charlie Isaacs
Thanks to all. You are all spectacular - Tina Chase Gillmor