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Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at
hi everyone. hope your Good Friday is indeed a good one! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Does Good Friday have something to do w/Lent? Or are they completely unrelated? - J.C. Bouvier
lent ends on Easter Sunday - Kevin Marks
Right, boulder gets rolled, and then it's a I remember... - J.C. Bouvier
it's all a little fuzzy for me - Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh no, Catechism class! - Tom Guarriello
starting to get everyone up on Skype - Tina Chase Gillmor
...and don't forget.... it's still Passover - Tina Chase Gillmor
Has it started? - Ian Waring
and today Steve is going to crab about the fact that I changed his camera position. I told him i will put it back where it was if he really doesn't like it after today - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm in Malta today, so my brain and my watch are out of sync... - Ian Waring
I was tweeting scripture at the pope earlier - Kevin Marks
ian - not yet - Keith Teare
let me know if you need the Jewish Catholic to add some value to your Easter discussion (me) - Charlie Isaacs
That's serious Catechism class, Kevin! Be careful, he's a Jesuit! - Tom Guarriello
I love that test card, takes me back to my childhood when you waited for TV to start with bated breath! - SImonB
Thank you Keith. Religious lot doing Good Friday marches into Church here... - Ian Waring
I see Tina's forehead :) - Charlie Isaacs
Now that's what Keith calls music - Kevin Marks
Yay! Full crew, but watch out for that Bing traitor! - Ian Waring
Makes sense to FB but does it make sense to users? - Tom Guarriello
I have a Google app on iOS - Kevin Marks
and on android, actually - Kevin Marks
Is this the preparation towards the Facebook Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Facebook needs to leverage its current user base to expand into more businesses that will diversify its revenue streams. Social platforms have a limited potential for generating revenue and could lose its users to a new app or platform in the future. - Rob Greenlee
Google Voice is now annoying me by telling me every time someone adds me to a circle. Is that in an effort to get me to delete the Voice app from my phone? Or a desperate attempt to get me to hit + pages? Or both? - J.C. Bouvier
WhatsApp, Instagram and other features - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm totally mad a Steve right now. He is refusing to look at the upper part of his screen. I just know I'm going to be repositioning the camera back where it was - Tina Chase Gillmor
Borthwick's thing on homescreen icons may have made zuck think about it - Kevin Marks
FB needs must be where the younger people is: on the mobile - Carlos Cruz
If the Amazon Mobile is true than Zuckerberg will want a piece of the action - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Chromebox i5 cant keep up with HD live stream - switched to quad i7 Mac (makes big difference) - clive boulton
But it's all "person-centric"... that's Tantek's point - Darius Dunlap
it is for one to one; for one to many it's subtler - Kevin Marks
Separate apps work well, but Google's separate apps didn't work well at all, either for the user or behind the scenes. They have to break the silos first with Hangouts before they do anything else. - Kevin Bryan
but if done right, navigating that is also made easier. At least, the potential is there. - Darius Dunlap
I'm more with Kevin. If you go user-centric then you have an explosion of complexity. Users seem comfortable with that at the app level. (2 years ago I wouldn't have agreed...) - Ian McGee
Mobile Apps are the new TV Channels - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Jillian York was interesting on this: - Kevin Marks
Google's problem: Everyone was on Google, but nobody could see each other in chat. By Google unifying under Hangouts (and Google+), at least people can find each other now across Google services. - Kevin Bryan
Kevin's point about modalities of communication is very valid, but I'd say apps are artificial constructs, and the fragmentation they create is painful. - SImonB
Apps, Channels, Text vs. Voice.. whatever. The important questions is "how do I best reach this person", and present that in a user-centric set of choices. - Darius Dunlap
I am not convinced people (consumers) love apps, I think corporates love apps! They're a strong channel,and are rapidly becoming brand identity. But that doesn't help consumers. - SImonB
Microsoft tried with Windows Phone to create app integrated "People Hubs" that pulled the data from a variety of apps into one user experience. They are now shutting that down with WP 8.1. - Rob Greenlee
The problem with unbundling Facebook's Services is that you eventually will have Facebook Lite - Moe Glitz from iPhone
wow, all-star cast today - Charlie Isaacs
Jennifer Ehle summed it up: "I know nothing of Facebook. Never been there. I've seen a page of it and it gives me that Microsoft sleepy feeling in my brain." - Kevin Marks
Many Apps & Devices. One User Data Profile - clive boulton
Does anyone else use the "New YouTube video" notifications feature in their notifications bar? I've had it for a long time. Very useful. - Kevin Bryan
interesting question is "why" the Windows Phone idea that's similar is going away. - Darius Dunlap
That it IS going away doesn't really say much. Microsoft has a long history of doing amazing things that for one reason or another never catch on. - Darius Dunlap
Google's Services have always been separate, which is why their Apps are easy to sell separate. Facebook is another thing. If the Facebook Wall becomes a separate App, will the Facebook Wall come crumbling down - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Interesting conversation about "user app churn" behavior on this week's episode of The Prompt - Tom Guarriello
Apps are oriented to user needs, so I think they will stay for long (unless there is a real working assistant like siri that launch apps/services). On the other hand, apps could use backend services - an unified ID could be a good example). - Carlos Cruz
Most mobile users don't really use that many apps on a regular basis. It is like what happened with the web. Early on people visited a lot of different websites, then pulled back to just a few. Same is happening with Apps now. - Rob Greenlee
the diversification of apps has to be well beyond social networks apps directly.. but apps that take advantage of the social network.. like health apps.. etc. - Michael Roberts
camlistore/ use case? - clive boulton
++ Michael Roberts - Darius Dunlap
Paper is the wall as a separate app, Moe - Kevin Marks
just played with a Galaxy S 5, it's awesome - Da
Think Paper will eventually fold Kevin, they should have brought Flipboard - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Enterprise wants to unbundle identity from apps, consumers don't. - clive boulton
Moe: I agree - Keith Teare
missing John Taschek's enterprisey pov - clive boulton
@Moe, @Keith - Paper is by far the better experience, I see it as the iPhone of Facebook apps, where the stock Facebook app is more the Android volume user play...Paper is for people w/a higher gross income...Facebook is for the rest of their users. - J.C. Bouvier
should I talk about fragmentions? - Kevin Marks
give it a try Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
Could be true J.C. But Facebook will need to sell it hard. Perhaps inside a Facebook Mobile it will gain in popularity - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Andreessen blocked me on Twitter - Kevin Marks
Paper is facing the same challenge as Medium, which I don't think will ever be large - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Whoa, Kevin! - Tom Guarriello
And how were those people starting that company supporting themselves. - Darius Dunlap
my response to that thread was to link this old post: - Kevin Marks
I am someone who has a few bootstrapped startups and I believe you can do a startup without spending a bunch of money, it takes money to get visibility though - Chris Hale
Don't hate on twinkies Steve - Chris Hale
back to the drawing board with the camera placement. Honestly, it's just not right and it's my fault. will try again - Tina Chase Gillmor
There is some stuff that used to be VERY hard, but which has now become free to experiment, and inexpensive to scale. - Darius Dunlap
Agree with Darius - Chris Hale
Well Steve's put his finger on it: innovative in the consumer space. There's way too much variations on the same old social media theme, why fund that unless there's proven revenue? - SImonB
Yep, SimonB, and nobody seems to have confidence that they can pick winners... so they wait. They sit out until there is evidence. - Darius Dunlap
Can Danny talk about Google's pay per click declines on the Desktop and Yahoo's plan to be the default Search player on the iPhone - Moe Glitz from iPhone
blocking often just too much flow :) - clive boulton
Windows is dead zzzz - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I agree that B2B will be more difficult to address to kickstarter entrepreneurs. - Carlos Cruz
Also, the end market is fundamentally more conservative... so Breakouts take a LONG time to ramp up. - Darius Dunlap
Moe, It is hard to count Windows out completely in the mobile/tablet and PC space. Clearly, MS is still an OS that a billion of people still use today. - Rob Greenlee
@Keith, do you ahve an example of a kick tag in Instagram? That's an @ symbol for Twitter or some other for say Facebook? - J.C. Bouvier
thanks Steve / thanks Dan / thanks Semil -- balancing enterprisy pov - clive boulton
Apparently Hookers are using AirBnb for Services in some cities - Moe Glitz from iPhone
"lets make our own startup with Hookers and Blow" - Kevin Marks
I wonder what the enterprise developer program growth is like... the companies building apps for internal-only use... I've seen some very interesting stuff, but I wonder if it's really a "thing" yet. - Darius Dunlap
Hell of a branding proposition, Kevin! - Tom Guarriello
"carburetors not ferraris" -- now I get it! - clive boulton
Gnip, Datasift, Radian6 Bing - Kevin Marks
with GNIP Twitter had partial control before and now they have complete control - Charlie Isaacs
Radian6 = Saleforce yah? - J.C. Bouvier
yes - Kevin Marks
it's also way to collect more revenue -- GNIP makes money - Charlie Isaacs
yeah, Charlie Isaacs, I think that's what Kevin was saying... Twitter already has the firehose, but these are people who have experience turning that into useful and profitable products. - Darius Dunlap
You can't trust anything coming out of Twitter unless you go directly to the firehose yourself or go to GNIP and get it from them, and Twitter severely limits the number of vendors who can get to the firehose - Charlie Isaacs
Will Twitter work with Creative Agencies, unlike Google which uses them - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Enterprise can't do "Hookers and Blow" or is that where the puck is? - clive boulton
Enterprise is ALL about "hookers and Blow". - Darius Dunlap
Oh, and Golf. - Darius Dunlap
Show name "slightly unnatural acts"? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't that an Oracle thing? - Kevin Marks
better than what clive just said Tina :) - Charlie Isaacs
Lol. Tina - Darius Dunlap
Google should buy Datasift and perhaps they can build a Fire Engine - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Between "hookers and blow" and "slightly unnatural acts" it may be time to re-rate the show.... - Ian McGee
I missed how "hookers and blow" happened. Geez, when I'm not looking... - Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor GangBang - Moe Glitz from iPhone
now you're talking -- connected hardware! - Charlie Isaacs
Larry Ellison makes sure no hookers and blow at big O. - clive boulton
connected hardware I agree - Michael Roberts
"When you're alone and life is making you lonely You can always go downtown" - Kevin Marks
Stuff people are noodling on. That's how everything interesting starts. - Darius Dunlap
wearables - Da
this friendfeed thing is turning into pornchat or whatever that thing was that I caught my son on the other day - Charlie Isaacs
I'm waiting for the whole space around connect hardware apps.. that bring intelligence to consumers. - Michael Roberts
Wait, are we talking about "hookers and blow" again?? - Tom Guarriello
Ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier
I think home automation and seemless authentication are spaces that are where a lot of interesting things are happening - Chris Hale
I'm quoting Petula Clark lyrics - Kevin Marks
"The lights are much brighter there You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares, and go ...." - Tina Chase Gillmor
Some of us have those lyrics embedded in our unconscious... - Tom Guarriello
Wearables and Connectables are the future. Web 3.0 is here - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Ive been noodling on my own home automation platform and have had pretty good success with getting everything connected and now I am able to control it via voice - Chris Hale
When you're alone and life is making you lonely You can always go, downtown - Charlie Isaacs
another area is the sharing economy.. I wonder if there will be an amazon for sharing stuff.. the big 'rent' it. - Michael Roberts
Sing Kevin - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Sunday delivery by Amazon, too. Plus, they now send me texts when things get delivered. - Tom Guarriello
we were really surprised to get a package at 9:50pm - Tina Chase Gillmor
you don't want me singing Petula Clark. Pink Floyd maybe - Kevin Marks
So ya, think, might like to... goto the show! - Darius Dunlap
My neighbor's angry at me because I shot down his delivery drone down and screwed up his wife's birthday gift - Charlie Isaacs
Kevin.... I think you should actually sing on the show... so when I cut to you, please go for it! - Tina Chase Gillmor
my singing is bset kept in private - Kevin Marks
Brilliant Idea. Employ handicapped people as drone drivers! - Chris Hale
I've got all the Floyd lyrics right here, in case you need support. ;-) - Darius Dunlap
thats a philanthropic idea where everyone wins - Chris Hale
hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Kevin Marks
why deliver when can 3D print - Da
we could make a Gillmor Gang Choir - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd love to see gillmor gang bring someone in from beyond silicon valley.. like India.. or South Africa.. that might be good check for the Silicon Valley centric thinking.. - Michael Roberts
I used to code that in html - Tina Chase Gillmor
Drones should be use for the good things and not for war! - Carlos Cruz
way back when - Tina Chase Gillmor
Medium sor of does this... - Darius Dunlap
I like that a lot - Tina Chase Gillmor
"sort of" - Darius Dunlap
pretty awesome that the SpaceX Falcon9 lifted off a while ago - Charlie Isaacs
I was visiting Instructables yesterday - they have some insane 3D printers - Kevin Marks
that's an excellent idea, kevin - Tom Guarriello
Can Kevin sing "The Great Gig In The Sky" - Moe Glitz from iPhone
but this new thing is so much more interesting... connecting across systems. - Darius Dunlap
No, Moe - Kevin Marks
I can do Pulp's Common People - Kevin Marks
we all know your code - Michael Roberts
android can keep screen on if plugged in - Kevin Marks
yes it is, steve - Tom Guarriello
Yep. It'll only turn off when you click the button, or flip the smart cover shut - Darius Dunlap
That's why I wasn't in the chatroom; I was watching on iPad. - Francine Hardaway
Ustream has a chat available but it doesn't store the chats... and that's a problem - Tina Chase Gillmor is COOL - Nir Ben Yona
i use Screen On app to keep my screen on - Da
has anyone done an analysis of how many apps people can keep up with... kinda like the 150 friends.. limit. - Michael Roberts
remove the lock screen on iOS will decrease the level of data encryption on the device - Carlos Cruz
i'm gonna get a different tripod that is more flexible - Tina Chase Gillmor
Carburetors don't have theme music, Ferraris do? - clive boulton
Could we please get off FF? - Francine Hardaway
@Francine Hardaway Agreed! FriendFeed is indeed dead. When can we bury the casket and move on to something new? - Kevin Bryan
francine, please give me an alternative - Tina Chase Gillmor
yammer for GIllmor Gang? - Francine Hardaway
I love IFTTT - Francine Hardaway
doesn't save the chat to a page - Tina Chase Gillmor
ifttt rocks - Charlie Isaacs
What about IRC, the olf favorite - Francine Hardaway
I think steve is totally right.. re: notifications. he's been making the same point for a while. - Michael Roberts
it's a sunshade - Kevin Marks
IRC is nice - Kevin Marks
oh hai! you're still here! - Laura Norvig
IRC would be good. Google+ page would be nice too. - Kevin Bryan
Chatter FTW :) and it's connected to IFTTT - Charlie Isaacs
IRC and surrounding tools can do all that, but it's still prettty geeky and difficult to get started. - Darius Dunlap
should I write a web app for gilmor gang to help deal with chat? - Chris Hale
yes Chris - Francine Hardaway
FF still better than G+ chat (UI too verbose) - clive boulton
Chris Hale please talk to me - Tina Chase Gillmor
I remember all of that - Francine Hardaway
lots of other podcasts use irc, but it's a PITA - Tom Guarriello
OK, somebody write an app for us - Francine Hardaway
Francine I think IRC is really good for techs.. but non-techs.. what else exists? - Michael Roberts
Samsung Gear Fit notifications look pretty cool - Da
I can probably write a better chat in 24 hrs than this crappy FF chat - Chris Hale
I have to watch the show on iPad and type on Mac - Francine Hardaway
Hard to fathom why G+ doesn't add an API for chat - clive boulton
invite Chris to the "create a new chat for GillmorGang" hackathon - Charlie Isaacs
Yeah! hackathon! lol - Darius Dunlap
haha, i have two hackathons i am participating in next month already - Chris Hale
hi Darius! Long time no see... - Francine Hardaway
Tina, how do i message you privately? - Chris Hale
I can't believe this chat and video thing hasn't been solved already... - Michael Roberts
OK Chris Hale - it has to be at least as good as FF - Tina Chase Gillmor
*wave* Francine! Hope to see you around here soon. - Darius Dunlap
chris- are you on FB? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Early May - Francine Hardaway
yes, someone please create a new chat app, call it WhatsAppGang and sell it to Zuck for $2B - Charlie Isaacs
Sounds good Charlie - Tina Chase Gillmor
how about whatsupgang - Chris Hale
For $3B, he gets Steve in the deal. - Darius Dunlap
it used to work great when the chat was embedded right next to the video. - Laura Norvig
FireChat - Kevin Marks
What's the limit for a What'sApp group? - Francine Hardaway
GangSpeak - Tina Chase Gillmor
Or we use GroupMe for SXSW - Francine Hardaway
Hangouts - Kevin Marks
Hangouts could work - Francine Hardaway
hangouts has so many problems that is solved by newtek - Michael Roberts
Hangouts would be good. - Kevin Bryan
Pardon? - Francine Hardaway
Chris Hale - friend request me on FB if you use it - Tina Chase Gillmor
You missed the early chat about hookers and blow, Francine - Tom Guarriello
hangouts is not good. for this show. - Michael Roberts
Tina, my facebook id is chris.a.hale. - Chris Hale
Ahh, I get a lot of that on NoAgenda show. It's all about hookers and blow some days - Francine Hardaway
yes, Francine it was a colorful discussion - Tina Chase Gillmor
"Hangry" - Darius Dunlap
FF seems to be the best candidate right now, low barrier to entry and simple. The other suggestions are more complex - Matt Hicks
I'll listen to the reording - Francine Hardaway
I missed the first 20 minutes. It was going great guns when I joined. - Darius Dunlap
IPO window might be closing = VC window also closing - Francine Hardaway
So I've got to go backhand listen, too. - Darius Dunlap
What's fragmention? - Francine Hardaway
Check post on Kevin's blog... - Darius Dunlap
yes!! - Michael Roberts
I like the bottoms up approach idea! - Michael Roberts
Have a great weekend guys...thanks as always. - J.C. Bouvier too - Kevin Marks
A GG pre-announcement would be great! - Tom Guarriello
Don't forget me!!! - Francine Hardaway
Chis Hale we are now "friends" - Tina Chase Gillmor
Thx Kevin - Francine Hardaway
The tricaster is great.. I wish I had one. - Michael Roberts
FF / Tornado now v3.2 - clive boulton
Excellent Gang - Tom Guarriello
I appreciate it! - Francine Hardaway
;-) Good stuff - Ian McGee
I'm glad I caught some of it - Francine Hardaway
Glad you made it Francine. - Ian McGee
The identity stuff and pivot to enterprise pov was terrific. - clive boulton
GG for me is the best insight into Silicon Valley.. So happy Steve continues to do the show..and glad its supported now.. been..listening since you guys started. - Michael Roberts
GG counts to why SFDC has enterprise growth like consumer - clive boulton
thanks to all - Tina Chase Gillmor
thank you for those kind words Michael Roberts - Tina Chase Gillmor