Wondering about hosting for Tornado, Bret Taylor says you might need your own box. If only there were a hosting co. that focused on the real-time web. - Cliff Gerrish

Bret said you could use EC2, but you will need more than the cgi access most PHP hosts give you - effectively need to run as root to have the python process listening on port 80. - Kevin Marks

It's interesting to see a framework (Tornado) that takes the changed landscape of internet identity into account - bundles of identities. - Cliff Gerrish

Well, it could do more there - talking with Bret they don't actually bind them themselves, but by building in support for multiple versions that is useful - Kevin Marks

Seems like it's the first step in that direction. Now that Tornado has been open sourced, there's a path. - Cliff Gerrish

Cliff: EC2 is nice, but expensive for a sandbox ($72 / month). Rackspace Cloud has 256 meg virtual servers that are about $11 / month. Great deal if you ask me. I had Tornado running in about 30 seconds on my RC VPS. The ability to programmatically clone servers with their API makes it a really nice place to launch something like a Tornado async app which could makes use of many low cost, low powered servers for dedicated connections. - Derek Gathright

Derek: thanks for the tip. - Cliff Gerrish

Yes, thank you, Derek! - Micah

A post on $11 option and things to like about the Rackspace offer http://www.tonycode.com/blog... - Micah

will there be audiofiles for download as a podcast? - franzstehrn

You can listen here: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/bootleg... - Jack

Steve its great to see Gilmor Gang up and running! - earl wallace

I'm going to have to catch the rest of this on replay. Issues w/kid overriding attention stream right now. Hope we get this under control soon. - Karoli