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Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
hello everybody - flyinthesoup
what topics would you like to talk about today ? - flyinthesoup
Hi there - Keith Teare
The T-Mobile play versus AT&T - Keith Teare
Hope y'all watched this video/interview with John Legere http://yhoo.it/1gnAeN1 - Nir Ben Yona
hi.... all. standby.... running a little behind - Tina Chase Gillmor
I can't believe im around for one for once!! - Matthew Voshell
CES; Sony playstation now? michael bay and how awful samsung presentations always are? - Matthew Voshell
nice one, what about content deals for Apple & Netflix ? - flyinthesoup
Hi everyone, Happy New Year! :) - Charlie Isaacs
throw Roku on there plus LG and the WebOS tv's? - Matthew Voshell
hiya - Kevin Marks
hi everybody. - Frank Drews
yep Mathew, do you believe there will be space for set top boxes after TV manufacturers dive in again into WebTV ? - flyinthesoup
Lucky for me a late start - clive boulton
its def intresting play by LG; makes sense... the OS's on TV are awful; ROku has been smart to be built into westinghouse and couple others; LG with Web OS; playstation now might take over Sony tv's; - Matthew Voshell
calling now - Tina Chase Gillmor
@ Mathew PlayStation will take oder Sony TVs? Integrating playstation 4 sounds a little expensive, what are you referring to? - Frank Drews
FTs Richard Walters piece on phones fading ties with last two GG shows discussing sad state of venture capital, we are in rotation period looking for the next high growth technology. - clive boulton
Tina, let us be part of the setting up, hear the damms & wtfucks, its funny and you'll be more relaxed to, so no one is behind - flyinthesoup
TGIF people. - J.C. Bouvier
what about PC and tablet sales numbers of Gartner? And Ocolus of course ... - Frank Drews
@Frank.. Google Platstation Now; its cloud based gaming; you'll be able to connect a controler to a bravia TV and play playstation games without the console; you just pay a monthley fee; I imagine there will be an up date to the OS to take this into account and unifying force behind it; pre the CEO's comments - Matthew Voshell
Hope Keith is not eating an ornamental orange! - Alex de Soto
Wearable, wearable, 4K TVs, wearable #CES2014 - Nir Ben Yona
im sorry but does anyone care about curved glass? bendable sure, but curved? - Matthew Voshell
@Mathew the cloud gaming thing, this was interesting indeed - Frank Drews
they have House of cards season 2 in 4K - flyinthesoup
if Scoble is around and wants to come in, it's Newsgang3 - Tina Chase Gillmor
curved means 3D looks better? - Kevin Marks
itll be 7 years before 4k is mainstream - Matthew Voshell
cable will not be able to keep up with verizon; Keith is right about back end is the docsis/matri channel switching that wont handle 4k well, least right now - Matthew Voshell
there;s new P2P technology to deal with limitations in bandwith - flyinthesoup
Yahoo content offerings might be worth a go. - Steve Poppe
I'm good with the resolution I have now. Let's work on other things - Tina Chase Gillmor
@fly right but compression comes into play right...? fox has HD and so does CBS but CBS is way better per whatever compression they yse - Matthew Voshell
Yahoo is copying Aol something awful - Matthew Voshell
Netflix will compress by more than 100 times and squeeze through the Internet at a speed of 15.6 megabits per second. That's a download speed widely available from Internet providers in the U.S. http://www.mercurynews.com/busines... - Charlie Isaacs
Is the show live yet? Ok, I'm up now. - J.C. Bouvier
I think Steve needs to develop an English accent to blend in better with the Gang ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
sounds like light bulbs... now they are measured by luminance instead of engery usage - Matthew Voshell
Yahoo on a buying jag - Tina Chase Gillmor
According to Qualcomm, 4K tablets are coming very soon. - Nir Ben Yona
A Scouser Accent would be cool, Tina. - Moe Glitz
Audio is not working for me. - Steve Poppe
ustream defaulted to muted for me for some reason...check that @steve - Matthew Voshell
Increase in resolution will also increase amount of data streamed? - christina sponselli
Here. Nice that Google announced 4K support in VP9, supported by major device mfrs. cord cut city ! - Ian Waring
hey +Tina isn't there an app for that? http://www.nuance.com/vocaliz... - Charlie Isaacs
Mo better, thanks. - Steve Poppe
he could get a fake accent like John Peel - Kevin Marks
Netflix have done the other side - Ian Waring
Screens are one thing... they need content to suply it... like #d all over again.. accept this time is suseful - Matthew Voshell
so why is audio ok compressed for most then? - Jerome Hughes
Anyone see that Apple are trademarking iWatch in many countries now? - Ian Waring
Yeah, we could process his voice. Goes in NY English comes out British English - Tina Chase Gillmor
Having trouble maintaining Kavins signal again. UGh - Tina Chase Gillmor
no-one records compressed audio any more - Kevin Marks
FT - The global technology market is forecast to shrink this year, as the sector’s strong growth stalls and companies flounder in the search for a new innovation to replace the smartphone. http://www.ft.com/intl... - clive boulton
here's an interesting device a NZ friend just acquired... http://fiio.com.cn/product... - Jerome Hughes
Apple licensing of patents from Liquid Metal up for renewal mid Feb, have their own patent in based on the tech - Ian Waring
right Kevin but the mass market is fine consuming mp3 on equipment that can't do much better, why is video different? - Jerome Hughes
More 4K televisions will push cable companies to provide more bandwidth and/or 4K content. Of course, they'll find a way to charge more money for 4K bandwidth or cable boxes. - Ankush Narula
Jerome, have you missed the headphone boom the last few years? - Kevin Marks
Have we had a show called "No Pants"? - Tina Chase Gillmor
TV's are much more standaredized; there are so many variations on speakers - Matthew Voshell
means more listening, but not at fidelity, mostly - Jerome Hughes
Kevin is right, big headphone boom - Matthew Voshell
And third parties stepping in for "digesting" social streams, startups such as ThinkUp - christina sponselli
TV is still king - Matthew Voshell
WhatsApp uses a customized version of the open standard XMPP - Charlie Isaacs
Before we even deal with 4K. They are already working on 8K & 16K TV'S. - Moe Glitz
it's funny how mobile apps and push have obviated messaging interop - Ankush Narula
Ankush - agree, it's very optimised on the server end too. - Simon Tennant
right but lossless etc are not needed by most while 4K is supposed to be coveted - Jerome Hughes
it's not a search for audio quality, it's a real world isolation tool - flyinthesoup
Jerome: Checkout the Astell&Kern AK100/120. - Nir Ben Yona
kevin is right... demand isnt there on audio.. MP3 is good enough... hard to hear a difference but easy to SEE the difference b/t SD and HD and 4k - Matthew Voshell
The noise-cancelling ones are pretty great - Tina Chase Gillmor
Beats by dre are all name, they are ok.. but the price is not worth it though - Matthew Voshell
I here the Dre's aren't all that great - Tina Chase Gillmor
NOOO BEATS are CRAP. Try Sennheiser. - Nir Ben Yona
dre is fashion - flyinthesoup
senhiser is amazing, i use in ear buds and they sound amazing - Matthew Voshell
Beats are the NO1 Brand Name. - Moe Glitz
but decent ones start ar $120 - Matthew Voshell
dedazzled headphones - Tina Chase Gillmor
"Westone Wins Digital Trends ‘Best Of CES 2014′ Award for the All New Signature W60 Earphones" Read more at http://www.redorbit.com/news... - Charlie Isaacs
bedazzled - Tina Chase Gillmor
50 Cent doing Headphones now - Moe Glitz
Klipsch In-Ear buds are my favorites (s4). - Alex de Soto
Klipsch are very good as well - Matthew Voshell
Sennheiser are great - Kevin Marks
Moe: Go to any audiophile forum and they'll tell you that Beats are crap. - Nir Ben Yona
gray, our studio cat, is deciding now is the the perfect time to tag up a cardboard box - Tina Chase Gillmor
anyone listen to music while programming or prefer library silence? - clive boulton
Surprised that One Direction ain't in the game - Moe Glitz
it looks absurd when people are walking around with ear cans - "you're not a DJ - and you're not at home in 1978" - Ankush Narula
@Clive Paul Oakenfold live in China - Matthew Voshell
That's a good one Ankush! - Alex de Soto
True Nir Ben. But they are the 'Brand'. - Moe Glitz
use Shure canal phones, lossless, hearing this on NAD -> JBL - sound fidelity still matters more to me than visual fidelity beyond where we are - retina matters more to me on handheld - Jerome Hughes
This is a cheap and simple solution to making sure high quality earbuds stay nice and snug - http://makezine.com/project... - Ankush Narula
Moe: Yeah, a fashion brand. - Nir Ben Yona
Want a Spinal Tap #11 Headphones - Moe Glitz
I just got a very good deal on Amazon ($80 shipped) the V-MODA Crossfades, very happy...http://v-moda.com/crossfa... - was a one day deal...but inline mic and swappable cables...they travel well... - J.C. Bouvier
What did I miss? - Daniel W. Crompton
I pay $20 for 600 mins, 5000 texts, 10GB 3+4G data per month. Free roaming in the USA also! - Ian Waring
vmoda is ok but they kept breaking on me... klipsch are best value - Matthew Voshell
@Matthew thanks, i'll try Paul Oakenfold. I listen to Lisa Stansfield at Ronnie Scott's - clive boulton
Keith - T-Mobile also throttles your data - so you will end up spending more than you think - Ankush Narula
£12.90 per month - Ian Waring
Beyerdynamic headphones are awesome as well. - Nir Ben Yona
Mine is with 3UK, own Nexus 5 handset - Ian Waring
Steve, let's talk about CONTENT ? - flyinthesoup
Its hard finding music to code with. I need sound without attention removal - clive boulton
cheap, and great quality and isolation - Kevin Marks
I thought Beats was all Jimmy Iovine's doing? - J.C. Bouvier
Yes. But Dre is the face - Moe Glitz
32dB of passive isolation - Kevin Marks
@Moe, right...Jimmy is the cash heel... - J.C. Bouvier
Kevins signal is more stable now - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think these headphones are probably better - http://i.imgur.com/vmTy0cr.jpg - Ankush Narula
@Matthew, what kind of breaks? - J.C. Bouvier
Kevin, thanks added to Amazon wish list - clive boulton
Sennheiser fantastic - repaired my headphones for free after i dropped my iPad, snapped connector off - Ian Waring
I like Hirschorn's MediaREDEF - Tom Guarriello
@JC the internal wire on one of the buds would break and they'd fail; i warrentied out 3 pair they just couldnt take the abuse - Matthew Voshell
Kevin: You listen to a lot of electronic music - do headphones make that much difference? - Ankush Narula
MailChimp does well - Matthew Voshell
Cubed.fm podcast reissued today btw - Ian Waring
I liked launch.co, and was turned off when they started sending the Begging Kittens mail. - Daniel W. Crompton
bass response and isolation make a difference - Kevin Marks
The basement would be the ideal place Kevin - Moe Glitz
Google DevRel is excellent at mustering developers https://www.dartlang.org/events... - clive boulton
if you dont start with a paywall its hard to put one up... ergo new york times - Matthew Voshell
David Pogue now on some form of yahoo channel - Ian Waring
fair enough - Ankush Narula
i feel better with the concept of information being free - Tina Chase Gillmor
make money on the conversation maybe - Tina Chase Gillmor
is the Gang going to talk the reemergence of eMail after Christie's staff just proved that you can shut down two cities via eMail? - Charlie Isaacs
for many, a dollar is a reason to go elsewhere - Jerome Hughes
@Tina or on the analysis - Daniel W. Crompton
so instead of charging, accept donations from that < 10% - Jerome Hughes
Washington Post is trying digital subscription for 99 cents/week https://account.washingtonpost.com/acquisi... - Matthew Voshell
the only content i pay for is FT.com - clive boulton
Subscribing to Keith's Newsletter: http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/... - Alex de Soto
I use flipboard i dont pay for any news - Matthew Voshell
He works for Clare Enders - Enders Analysis - Ian Waring
Public tv is funded by the public but not everyone does it - Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Matthew - Moe Glitz
patronage - Jerome Hughes
oh, i do donate to pbs - clive boulton
right, tina, that's the point - Kevin Marks
I think people pay for service and entertainment, not news - Ludwig Ederle
The problem is less about people's willingness to pay. The problem is that there is so much media out there that we don't know what to pay for anymore. I read from aggregation mediums like RSS and Twitter - and they link to all kinds of random sites. So who gets my money? - Ankush Narula
and i pay to attend a few meetups (but not too many) Google IO is about my max payout - clive boulton
Claire Enders was ex strategy director of Thorn EMI music - did a paper in the. Napster days showing the only folks suffering from Napster were top 10 acts at each of the top Record labels. Rest of the industry big +ve - Ian Waring
What happens to Danny when Google Search becomes a sideshow - Moe Glitz
Cubed podcast is great. Multi-tasking is a myth! - Tom Guarriello
I'm I the only one who lost sound? - Daniel W. Crompton
Yes - Ian Waring
In terms of news economics we might go back to a early time when news came through "minnesinger", they got paid through donations after they sung their news - Ludwig Ederle
Sound good here - Tom Guarriello
I'm not sure the last time I sat in front of a single publication/web site and read all of the day's articles. Techmeme, Twitter, RSS, etc. - Ankush Narula
Which is why Google Search is in decline Ankush - Moe Glitz
Claire Enders does subscriptions to large media and telcos - Ian Waring
My BlueTooth headphones unpaired - Daniel W. Crompton
@Ankush -- your comment ties to Hasso Plattner / Marc Beniof great debate on enterprise software, that a new payment model has to emerge to get a dollar - clive boulton
clive - exactly - Ankush Narula
moe - not sure what you mean - Ankush Narula
NSA strafing Kevin! - Tom Guarriello
I like that Steve: R.O.A. - Return on Attention - Alex de Soto
blue angels nr Kevin - clive boulton
Do you Search on the Desktop anymore, or do you just use Twitter Streams on Mobile - Moe Glitz
Yes - JLG every Monday - Ian Waring
Can we get a list of these sources? - J.C. Bouvier
copter - Kevin Marks
i will say i havw been using facebook more with news outlets posting more on there PLUS local news groups and friends news... - Matthew Voshell
Google Search can't reach data that's hidden in app ecosystems or Twitter/FB - but I think Google Search is evolving into something different than the old web crawler. I definitely use Google Search on every platform. But rarely for news. I use Twitter for realtime news. I use Google News for archival news. - Ankush Narula
but people will happily pay for "secret" information - Tina Chase Gillmor
I search twitter streams for fresh news / "knowledge" - clive boulton
what about doing it ( publishing ) for a purpose rather than news commenting & analisys ? - flyinthesoup
Well, define secret information - Ludwig Ederle
Google search is stale as old bread - clive boulton
Once it's out it's out. No payment - Ludwig Ederle
But the number of subscribers can creation a foundation for selling ads. - christina sponselli
Google Now will do well on Mobile. But the Google Search/Advertising Eco-System is dying - Moe Glitz
Stratechery also a good blog - Ben Thompson - the missing Ben from Cubed w/Evans & Bajarin - Ian Waring
I'd subscribe to a really good Flipboard magazine (and pay). - Alex de Soto
so a consortium of analysis is valuable? - Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Ian - Tom Guarriello
Google Search is as fast as Google News - Ankush Narula
I agree that Google Now is meaningful - I've been using it much the same way I use Twitter Notifications - Ankush Narula
Flipboard kills Google News on the iPad - Moe Glitz
Nag-ware! - Ian Waring
Google search became so predictable its boring - clive boulton
Flipboard is one way to look at news - it's doesn't automatically aggregate the way Google News or Techmeme do - Ankush Narula
I bought the last season on amazon instant - Matthew Voshell
Where do Marketeers, Publishers & Advertisers go in Google Now & Siri - Moe Glitz
Talking about the entire season... - Matthew Voshell
Moe - that's a question of time - Ankush Narula
It's like people saying that Facebook was dead because they had no mobile revenue strategy - Ankush Narula
WWE has launched their own Channel for $9.99 a month - Moe Glitz
Things actually change! - Ankush Narula
+1 Keith!!! - Tom Guarriello
can anyone play the Gillmor Gang on their Android phone (the player spins on my Nexus 4)? - clive boulton
@Tina, what was the podcast Steve mentioned? - J.C. Bouvier
Cubed, J.C. - Tom Guarriello
Techcrunch is a shame. they make entrepreneurs behave like monkeys in their conferences. - flyinthesoup
They HATE thier Aol overlords - Matthew Voshell
Playing on my Chromebook Pixel :-) - Ian Waring
Without Instagram, Facebook would suffer on Mobile. - Moe Glitz
The Verge, Ars Technica, TechCrunch are my top 3 - Matthew Voshell
JC - Cubed, I think - Tina Chase Gillmor
More specifically, anyone play the TC Gillmor Gang recording on Android 4.x? - clive boulton
The Verge and Ars are great - Ankush Narula
Anybody actually read App.net routinely? - Tom Guarriello
Tx Tina. - J.C. Bouvier
The Verge Team are great - Moe Glitz
kevin, let's talk about content agreements. - flyinthesoup
Sony embracing cloud? - Matthew Voshell
Kevin RE: CES, just that Yahoo!'s cloud services and software are now apparently consumer electronics... - J.C. Bouvier
and what about the WEB Browsing in TV. - flyinthesoup
Every PC vendor now making ChromeBooks !! - Ian Waring
sony selling twice as many playstations 4's as xbox ones? - Matthew Voshell
Arianna Huffington announces launch of World Post news website http://www.theguardian.com/media... - clive boulton
And by WE, Steve means himself ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
LG nice 21" Chrome desktop - Ian Waring
Ok, Pebble Steel? - J.C. Bouvier
@Ian.. yea but they didnt announce a price? - Matthew Voshell
That was the big frustration - Ian Waring
Clive - when? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Have you got rid of those. Oranges yet? - Ian Waring
leveling up my vocabulary. thanks, kevin - christina sponselli
oh i see - Tina Chase Gillmor
First on Jelly, then on Google+ - Ian Waring
Desktop Web is dying - Moe Glitz
Why is a web browser on an underspec'd laptop so exciting? It's like we're back in the netbook days again - Ankush Narula
Mobile Web is rising - Moe Glitz
Look at this. What is it? - Ian Waring
Godfather reference. The Oranges. - Moe Glitz
Tina, imminent, Brit press calling it the network for “homeless billionaires” - clive boulton
Tabloid version of Quora - Ian Waring
Well, sorta “homeless billionaire” - clive boulton
isolate the gesture to get people actually doing it? - Jerome Hughes
Questions on Google+? Many Answers - Moe Glitz
Can't wait to see the question, "What is Goatsee" on Jelly - Jerry Schuman
Sometimes I feel forced to add a photo on social anything when I really don't need it - Tina Chase Gillmor
Instagram could copy this and eat Jelly - Moe Glitz
Most popular Jelly question, "Does this make me look fat?" - Ankush Narula
that's another problem, tina http://epeus.blogspot.com/2011... - Kevin Marks
Is this a discussion group? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Or, does my bum look big in this - Moe Glitz
comp.sys.next - Jerry Schuman
exactly - Ankush Narula
Bring back the Well! - Ian Waring
I'm trying to remember the WWW path... - Jerry Schuman
Subsumed into Google Groups - Ian Waring
Need Blog Apps - Moe Glitz
USENET still exists.. you just pay through the nose for it - Jerry Schuman
Bring back VAX Notes ! - Ian Waring
@Ankrush, web browsers are exciting again because Windows frameworks are being properly abstracted into Web Frameworks. Dart | Angular | Polymer - clive boulton
reddit groups are close to USENET - Tom Guarriello
Tagging killed hierarchical groups long ago - Ankush Narula
@clive - but they're still slow as s@#$ - Ankush Narula
Use BaconReader on mobile Android, Alien Blue on iOS for Reddit - Ian Waring
# killed tagging - Moe Glitz
# is tagging - Ankush Narula
Actually tags promote pollution in groups.. hierarchical still has validity because it forces subject specificity - Jerry Schuman
hence the name "hashtag" - Ankush Narula
I agree with Ankush -- tagging should be as easy as #'ing something - Charlie Isaacs
but much better than Word Clouds - Moe Glitz
slow yes, but a lot less latency than a browser on a framework on Windows. - clive boulton
quick name the protocol for Usenet.. - Jerry Schuman
and a lot more limited - Ankush Narula
I'm going to write VAX Notes for Mobile :-) - Ian Waring
NNTP - Jerry Schuman
# is better for search on mobile - Moe Glitz
@darlang? - clive boulton
Isn't there a site about Target event? Letting you know if name is on it? - Tom Guarriello
well Angular Dart? - clive boulton
+Ian at least go back to PDP Notes - Charlie Isaacs
Have a great weekend all... - J.C. Bouvier
this is bleeding edge stuff - and it's not being adopted by everyone - native client is the great hope - Ankush Narula
new parrot drone - Tina Chase Gillmor
notes-11 the predecessor - Ian Waring
great programming frameworks and libraries are only as great as their implementations - performance is critical in an age where native apps are dominating - Ankush Narula
the hackers are spending less than my wife so I am not reporting my card theft - Charlie Isaacs
interestingly Google has hired some of the cream of Windows and Office devs to Dart and Chrome - clive boulton
Charlie +1 - Ankush Narula
Moe - # is Tagging - Keith Teare
One analyst reckons Chrome tablets coming - lower price points - Ian Waring
Free with Breakfast Cereal? - Ian Waring
Who else outside of Google Chrome devs has adopted Dart? - Ankush Narula
Just add battery - Ian Waring
Charlie! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Understand Keith - Moe Glitz
@Ankush 1.0 has just hit. - clive boulton
oops Ankush. Didn't see your comment. +1 - Keith Teare
Think something big could be done on Mobile with #Search - Moe Glitz
wait until I tweet that and FB it, my wife will not be pleased - Charlie Isaacs
duck and cover, Charlie! Good line... - Tom Guarriello
@clive - there's a lot of skepticism (from a technical perspective) about Dart - but also from a market perspective - there's so much javascript out there to displace - Ankush Narula
with attention - Jerome Hughes
Coincide it with The Beatles 50th Weekend - Moe Glitz
Hazard a guess Kevin gets his Dart wings? - clive boulton
not that interested in Dart - Kevin Marks
thanks everybody for the nice thoughts. - flyinthesoup
Go is more interesting - Kevin Marks
@Ankush agreed, But how to put that much JS into a large structured modern web app, Node? - clive boulton
Go is much more interesting - Ankush Narula
Show name? - Tina Chase Gillmor
At last tagging has a Brand. # - Moe Glitz
I'm get started with Go and Dart :o - clive boulton
@clive - i'm not saying we stick with the status quo - but revolutionary usually fails where evolutionary succeeds - Ankush Narula
angular.js is a nice step - Ankush Narula
get deep into npm modules and do straight JS and you'll e fine ! - flyinthesoup
@Ankush true that - clive boulton
anyhow - this discussion is academic :-) have a great weekend - Ankush Narula
Tina, show name : ear budgets - flyinthesoup