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Steve Gillmor to Steve's feed, RealTime Network
Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1pm PT. Participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
September 3, 2010
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Nancy Johnson, Roberto Bonini, Ankush Narula and 5 other people liked this
Waiting for call...
- Robert Scoble
evening all
- Nick Halstead
Just a few more minutes.
- Robert Scoble
who is on tonights show?
- Nick Halstead
Nick. Arrington. Kevin Marks. Steve Gillmor. They are trying to get Seth Goldstein on.
- Robert Scoble
Still trying to get everyone on.
- Robert Scoble
Hang out a couple more minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Here we gooooooooo.....
- Robert Scoble
Up.. good.. looks good.
- Kevin Costain
John Tauschek, too.
- Robert Scoble
I see Robert's TeetDeck buzzing away.. haha
- Kevin Costain
Is all of the music listed in ping shown with just a preview? Are there any full-length tracks there?
- Kevin Costain
They don't have a built-in network... they have a user base that are not connected
- Ankush Narula
They have the network of iChat users and Appel Mail users...
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: I wonder if any of those user will care to connect to each other? Who out there actually "Lives" in iTunes?
- Kevin Costain
yeah but that's quite pre-social - many ichat users users use AOL accounts and mobile.me users have address books - which is what they're telling us to use anyway by inviting people by e-mail
- Ankush Narula
I use iTunes to sync my iOS devices, and occasionally to buy music. I don't think that's going to change
- Rob La Gesse
Robert: and there's no status updates!
- Ankush Narula
Genius is still processing.
- Arnie Klaus
On the bright side. Apple Ping is already monetized.
- Alex de Soto
Personally I think Last.fm is the only proper music social network... it matches people based on scrobbled songs/libraries rather than who you know. Most of the people I follow on Twitter and Ping are tech folks who I probably don't have huge musical overlap with.
- Ankush Narula
Arrington + Priority. .:)
- Kevin Costain
Alex: good point
- Ankush Narula
Arrington can donate to The Rackspace Foundation - http://rackspacefoundation.com/ - or to any other charity of his choice
- Rob La Gesse
Rob: good idea.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft Marketing: Windows Phone Series 7, "Doesn't Suck Completely"
- Ankush Narula
you can only comment on musics that Apple has for sale, so no Beatles discussions on iTunes
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: http://codingthis.com/android...
- Ankush Narula
I'm checking out Ping myself.. ..
- Kevin Costain
no, not going to give rackspace money. incentives aren't aligned. Scoble, sent you an offer.
- Michael Arrington
Mike - that's why I added, "Or any other charity" :)
- Rob La Gesse
Michael: incentives are pretty aligned anyway. If I don't keep you happy I don't keep Rackspace happy. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft has no phone advantage in the enterprise
- Francine Hardaway
honestly, rackspace pretty much screwed us. ain't going to happen.
- Michael Arrington
daughter who works for public company is on iPhone bec. they gave her a choice
- Francine Hardaway
Scoble: but if you want me to donate whatever we agree to to charity, i'll do that instead, fine.
- Michael Arrington
Michael: huh? Rackspace is still hosting much of your business and is sponsoring Techcrunch Disrupt.
- Robert Scoble
What is going on Mike and Rackspace?
- Francine Hardaway
there is no mob anymore Mike!
- Nick Halstead
its only us!
- Nick Halstead
:)
- Nick Halstead
Francine - we moved to them based on promises of them keeping us live and oh boy did they flail. This rackspace cloud is a joke. And it really hurt us.
- Michael Arrington
Ouch
- Ankush Narula
Oh boy, Mike. Ouch. Is Rackspace THAT bad?
- Kevin Costain
Robert - oh, they're sponsoring disrupt! then i take back everything i said. I LOVE RACKSPACE. lol.
- Michael Arrington
Michael - let's not air dirty laundry in public - especially since it is impolite for me to enter the debate. Sites like live.gdgt.com serve millions of simultaneous connections without issue.
- Rob La Gesse
what i love is that our sponsors, like rackspace and microsoft, are fine with me trashing them sometimes. respect. but rackspace cloud is a huge pile of fail.
- Michael Arrington
Robert - Is that a Substrata iPad case?
- Alex de Soto
Rob - actually, go ahead and air it - truth matters, if it was more on our end, I'll stand corrected.
- Michael Arrington
aren't they screwing their app developers?
- Xenophrenia
great article about Flipboard -> http://steveobd.blogspot.com/2010...)
- Nick Halstead
Xeno: why are they screwing developers?
- Nick Halstead
Mike - I am not even interested, actually. We serve over 100K websites on our cloud. And it is growing. You had a bad experience, for a number of reasons. The reasons aren't important anymore. BTW - most of your sites are still on Rackspace Cloud, in case you didn't know :)
- Rob La Gesse
Rob - I'm trying not to take "I am not even interested, actually" as representative of the whole problem we had with you guys.
- Michael Arrington
Robert - Why does Steve think 'twitter' is going to absorb us? - does he mean buy or build something betteR?
- Nick Halstead
they are forming their own apps and cutting off all 3rd party - like bit.ly ect
- Xenophrenia
That was targeted to having a public debate, and nothing else. I am VERY interested in the actuality of what happened.
- Rob La Gesse
http://datasift.net
- Nick Halstead
WRONG
- Nick Halstead
we are doing it right
- Nick Halstead
Rob, fair 'nough.
- Michael Arrington
Another week without Datasift..Nick when you going to let the cat out of the bag?
- Jim Posner
Nick: Is the alpha open?
- Ankush Narula
@jim - sorry the team are lazy
- Nick Halstead
:)
- Nick Halstead
@jim seriously though - to a small number of developers - we will open more and more over coming weeks
- Nick Halstead
Nick, can you tell us what the impact on traffic/usage has been since Twitter started competing with you?
- Michael Arrington
ok thanks Nick..watching my email closely :-)
- Jim Posner
I can yes
- Nick Halstead
yeah.
- Michael Arrington
I am typing :)
- Nick Halstead
yes we lost 20% at first - but we have continued to grow, twitter growing even faster, the whole point was to make the 'whole' ecosystem grow faster
- Nick Halstead
This show would be much better without Gillmor
- Kenny
Ev says that he is going to starting filtering tweets around events..that should be interesting
- Jim Posner
we never a penny from buttons
- Nick Halstead
*made
- Nick Halstead
but we made twitter grow - more links = more links for us to filter + sell the data for
- Nick Halstead
Nick, lost 20% of publishers? of traffic?
- Michael Arrington
button impressions per day
- Nick Halstead
we didnt lose many sites in grand scale of things
- Nick Halstead
were still at 220,000 sites
- Nick Halstead
Let Nick join the call for crying out loud..
- Kenny
and growing - but the agreement was not to suddenly switch everyone from one button to another
- Nick Halstead
Kenny: it's hard to add another person onto the skype machine. We'll have Nick on when he ships.
- Robert Scoble
Alright, I guess I'll buy that...seems like Gillmor is, well, being his grumpy self
- Kenny
Twitter is planning on tracking all clicks and shutting off access by other url shorteners - they are setting the precedent that 3rd party developers are eventually going to be cut off ... isn't that liability in some ways for Twitter?
- Xenophrenia
@kenny lol
- Nick Halstead
Kenny: that's why I love him. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Steve is great - I wouldnt be up at 10pm in UK to listen if he didnt have deep thoughts
- Nick Halstead
I guess he's ok...I don't listen to ever show but when I do its for his guests and topics
- Kenny
Steve is like a magnet - you are either attracted to him or repelled by him :) (love you, Steve!)
- Rob La Gesse
lol
- Kenny
I'm both
- Michael Arrington
Mike: Get an iPhone ;-)
- Ankush Narula
I LOVE STEVE,but then, I love many people!
- Francine Hardaway
ah com'on!!
- Kenny
ha
- Ankush Narula
Hey Robert - Great video with Smugmug
- Kenny
Thanks Kenny! I love those guys.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, great site and they seem like cool people...hope you get to go on the shoot of the Golden Gate - would love to see that video!
- Kenny
Thanks for the show guys!!!
- Kevin Costain
Cant wait for Datasift. And I never switched to the Twitter button:-)
- Francine Hardaway
@Nick we're not lazy ;-)
- Chris Alexander