I've come to the point where I already know what Robert is going to say before he comes on here, because i've read it on G+/FB/Twitter
- Francine Hardaway
OTOH, I just looked at my old tweets and was reminded of how skeptical I was about Twitter, and then Foursquare, and then videochat. And now I love them all.
- Francine Hardaway
Robert is right. These things will find a way to serve us, and we will make the tradeoff.
- Francine Hardaway
I like the idea. Sounds like more "automation" for me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
For those of us secure in our sharing, for better or worse, it's integration to established systems. For those who are threatened or very protective, it's a nightmare.
- Aron Michalski
But who's world do u trust. Facebook's, Google's or Apples?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
and on your phone, what software do you use to administer the control and how do you know to trust those who provide it?
- Jerome Hughes
Keith nailed it. OAuth web is out. XAuth personal device is in.
- clive boulton
You are assuming that you will have your phone everywhere you go... what other personal devices will shape the future of this technology?
- Doug Wolfgram
Francine Hardaway: Its just a simple mediation between profiles (likes), maps (travel paths) and velocity & cadence (accelerometer). Also, it has a lot of promise for emergency services (medical / fire / police).
- Chien-Yu Lin
on Keith's seeing more personal sharing controls on a device, anyone working with XAuth? (OpenStack, Rackspace)
- clive boulton
Robert Scoble is absolutely right about the "strolling down the street, looking for food" scenario. As for user cases, its not about "when you would use it"; its about "the contextual mediation engine" to be developed. Once Gimbal is set, its about how the user can use it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
public clouds will go away. We'll all have private cloud storage in our homes.
- Doug Wolfgram
Ask the average individual where he/she wants their data in a public cloud... or one THEY control. Right now, only geeks care... but not for long.
- Doug Wolfgram
Scoble is working up to a freak out... it's bubbling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Russians hackers will probably crash the contextual party. Governments and criminals will have access to the contextual stream. They will be smart enough to create alternative channels for themselves or stay off the grid altogether. Looking forward to the next 20 years!!!
- Alex de Soto
So I will get robbed? I finally have to lock my door?
- Francine Hardaway
DNSChanger is a good example of context-jacking
- Ankush Narula
I assumed so Francine. If we have more control then the public cloud becomes a personal cloud ... isn't that what you meant Clive?
- Doug Wolfgram
Alex: yes. Heheh. Francine: your notifications will let you know you are at higher risk of being robbed so you can turn on your stun gun and get ready.
- Robert Scoble
Which is why Facebook and Amazon need to get into the Smartphone Industry
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
early days... killed the battery and didn't provide enough benefit
- Jerome Hughes
Those of us who can't afford to go out and buy more batteries simply remove apps that suck up juice, no matter how "important" they may be. That's a simple fact.
- Kat Armstrong
Profiles w/o Maps & Phones = Desktop monetization only
- Chien-Yu Lin
Who mentioned afford? I can't afford anything I do
- Francine Hardaway
Not to mention that they'll get bad reviews Kat.
- Doug Wolfgram
Our bodies are great batteries. We'll eventually plug into ourselves. All you'll need to do is drink some beer to recharge! ;)
- Alex de Soto
Francine - being a single mom working for myself, it's rare for me to buy *anything* for myself. And Doug - absolutely.
- Kat Armstrong
Moe Glitz: the key is to be completely vertically integrated: phone, tablet, OS, browser, search, maps, apps - all under one roof.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Geeks-a- Goo-Goo! Robert's Strip Club
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I was there for many years, Kat. Finally the last kid got a job
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - almost there! My youngest just graduated HS a year early and is off to college in mere weeks.
- Kat Armstrong
It's interesting, isnt it, to listen to folks who know what's coming and then can extrapolate what it's going to look like, feel like, and pitfall/problems. Hope the innovators are listening
- Tina Chase Gillmor
reco reading or rereading The Diamond Age about this stuff, reread it recently and it was good
- Jerome Hughes
Very true Chien. Which is why only 5 Companies will be in this game
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Brewster is good, but needs better search. It aggregated my conacts, but I can't really find them anymore. And it decided my housemate wasn't in any of my address books.
- Francine Hardaway
While contextual search will suck the information out of Facebook, Facebook will still have value in that it is still a meeting space. Contextual search will be more for monetization (and people are not shopping all of the time).
- Chien-Yu Lin
Keith nailing the shift to granular controls in the Personal Cloud via the phone. The OAuth king's not gonna 'Like' this shift to [you]
- clive boulton
kosso - I agree with Drew. Something that big should have been found long before it went live. To pass it off as no big deal b/c they're new just plain stinks.
- Kat Armstrong
Funny how Microsoft is going there but no-one really cares. It's all about brand in the social world.
- Doug Wolfgram
advance request… "Freaky" & Doc about the context sensitive stuff
- Jerome Hughes
I wouldn't trust any of these companies with my full contact list. Besides, it's NOT my RIGHT to give some company the details of other people - most likely people who will never use the service. That's such a betrayal of trust already. Of my friends! People shouldn't do this. Now, thanks to some people, my contact details are on some server somewhere, put there by someone else! I think that's outrageous.
- kosso
Data is a Goldmine for these Companies
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Moe & Francine: Its going to be a slugfest between The Big 5: Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft. They have to vertically integrate if for no reason just to hide their patents and searches. We just saw that Google was stealing search info off Safari.
- Chien-Yu Lin
The first step in content curation is noise control - Dick Costello
- Doug Wolfgram
A social graph is just a Venn diagram of commonalities. For likes, its a good predictor and recommender of other things (Amazon has proven that this idea works with its recommendation engines). For friend recommendations, not so much.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Hi everybody. Coming in late. Is Keith Teare a regular now?
- Amyloo
Jerome -- because that is too much work for the commoner.
- Doug Wolfgram
Scoble is right, but what that requires is people categorizing / tagging their communications. Its easy for large written pieces because the content is clear. Its impossible and cumbersome for "throw-away" comments - and these are usually the noise violators.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Normal people won't waste their energies on more than 2 Social Graphs
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
John is sooooo quite today. shhh. he might be sleeping ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chien-Y, and NObody likes to tag. Such as easy thing to blow off.
- Amyloo
Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil!
- Amyloo
Amyloo - I know, but until there is a way to recognize content, there's not a really elegant way to do this, unless a person has a discipline to make their profile to be "serious" or "casual" (and that may require one person having multiple profiles. I have a hard enough time maintaining my profile and that for my dog. I can't maintain id, ego and superego profiles of myself.
- Chien-Yu Lin