Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific... - RealTime Network

Will start in a few minutes, I'm hanging out waiting for the usual Skype call. I will have a ton of different hats on today's show. - Robert Scoble

let the games begin - Raphæl

First hat will be a google one. Let's see if Gillmor can get me to put on the Silverlight one. - Robert Scoble

dividing attention between this and health care debate. It could be an interesting exercise. - Karoli

Karoli: cool, one conversation is important. You figure out which one. :-) - Robert Scoble

i never did like silverlight - Chris Jackson

You have actual hats? - Raphæl

Yes. Lots of hats. - Robert Scoble

I heard you were handed your hat a few times last night ;-) - Jerry Schuman

a few, yes - Robert Scoble

and it begins - michael sean wright

we are on! - Robert Scoble

Dan Farber of CBS News. - Robert Scoble

comcast merger, anyone? - Karoli

Squeeee! Doc's back...been way too long. - Karoli

I have one of those Google caps. - Raphæl

I'm sure that Google knowing every time anybody on the internet visits any other site has nothing to do with it, right? - Ken Sheppardson

Great for Analytics. - Raphæl

i.e. inserting themselves (potentially) into every client->server connection process - Ken Sheppardson

it's not just delivery, it's content control. - Karoli

Adds a new spin to the net neutrality argument - Ken Sheppardson

robert, comcast might not want you to use bing. they might want you to only use yahoo. - Karoli

More media consolidation in the hands of fewer and fewer corporations is always a good thing - Gregg H.

Dan Farber, Doc Searls, Scoble and Marks on today's Gillmor Gang: Live Now - http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish

It's also interesting in the context of the fact DirecTV viewers no longer get the Versus sports network, as they couldn't negoiate a deal with Comcast - Ken Sheppardson

ask Al Gore how he feels about their negotiations re: Current TV - Karoli

and Versus carries a lot of the niche or edge sporting events - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

great point, Doc. - Karoli

Comcast is very aggressive in keeping out local competitors - they have bought every local cable company or forced them out. They have locked out all local sporting events - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Yeah, here in San Francisco we couldn't get the Stanford/Cal game this fall... it was on Versus. And it means no daily, live Tour de France coverage next July :-( - Ken Sheppardson

It was "rooter" before people started to mispronounce it. - Gregg H.

I wonder what this means for their TV On Demand section - currently NBC is not listed for any shows and CBS is very big in that list. Will this change and now NBC will only be On Demand? Will Hulu now be a Comcast Cable only site? - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

The Network has changed to the point that combining cable + tv production can't corner the market in anything. - Cliff Gerrish

consolidation of power and message control - Karoli

cliff, they own the network. - Karoli

Messages can be sent from any node. - Cliff Gerrish

cliff, if i have no access to nbc news because i'm not a comcast subscriber, the messages aren't especially helpful. - Karoli

Don't you have access to NBC news via the network? - Cliff Gerrish

cliff - they already "load balance" based on where/when you are streaming from/to - so now what's to prevent them from load balancing all ABC/CBS sites in favour of NBC? - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Cliff, will I continue to? - Karoli

@Karoli - Comcast/NBC will become an out of network network :) - Rob La Gesse

I am sitting at lunch with a Silverlight guy:-) - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed

Video feed is fine. - Rob La Gesse

video is fine here - Chris Jackson

Comcast is on to yous guys - Raphæl

There's no need to fear silverlight. It will die quickly. HTML 5 will make sure of that. - Gregg H.

Mixing Content and Conduit is always a bad business idea - Stephen Pickering

Michael Arrington just joined the Gillmor Gang: Live now at http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish

Tradeoff? Silverlight is a 15 second install... - Rob La Gesse

silverlight will go the way of google gears - Chris Jackson

Gregg, I'll only believe that when we have the Olympics streamed live in HTML5. - Raphæl

NetFlix watch instantly is a nice example of Silverlight -- this relates to the Comcast deal. - Cliff Gerrish

Google Gears didn't DO anything - Silverlight does. - Rob La Gesse

I think all this stuff is inevitable. do we still need cable? or broadcast? for how long? - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed

Vezquex, you'll see it - Gregg H.

Francine, the argument against the acquistion is that they'll control the Network. They won't. - Cliff Gerrish

That's a good question - will Comcast/NBC still allow Netflix/Mediafly content to be streamed at full speed or will it become traffic shaped - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

you mean will the net be.. you know... neutral? - Ken Sheppardson

Google will spank properties that throttle - that alone will keep them playing fair. - Rob La Gesse

All proprietary un-free software and platforms will lose in the long run. - Gregg H.

Cliff, they already do. If I am watching a streaming video for more than 5 minutes I get traffic shaped. If i'm watching Comcast On Demand I do not. Will Hulu now be traffic shaped or will it get a pass? That what will be the clue if they are acting in a network neutral manner - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Windows is dog slow on good rigs, whereas Chrome OS is fast even on weak hardware. - Raphæl

CrunchPad update? - Ken Sheppardson

that's what i'm waiting for - CrunchPad questions - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

what's traffic shaped - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed

Silverlight adjusts to the speed of the bandwidth... - Cliff Gerrish

scoble - diet coke is bad..... - Chris Jackson

Francine - it is basically throttling of your bandwidth based on content and/or destination - Rob La Gesse

Francine - if i'm streaming a video on Comcast the first 5 or so minutes are at my full bandwidth capability (15mbs) but if I continue past that point the speed of the video drops to less than 1mbs - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

But Silverlight is from Microsoft. How can it be good? - Raphæl

See Moonlight + Mono.... - Cliff Gerrish

Amazing Silverlight is actually seeing some traction. Developer Cuz predicted it would 2 years ago. - JimmyJet

When Google switches Youtube videos to Ogg Theora natively palyabe in HTML 5 Browsers I think Gillmor and others that deride the importance of free software codecs and platforms will have a revelation - Gregg H.

bah - I have to run an errand - I wish the video show could be viewed later - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

wish those questions had been asked in 2001 - Karoli

Bear - it can - they are always posted on building43.com a few days later. - Rob La Gesse

Gillmor Gang is available on YouTube - your DVR of choice... - Cliff Gerrish

google'll be using h264 and html5 video before any os codec - Kevin Marks

Silverlight is as un-free as you can get. - Gregg H.

oh snap! I had no clue - thanks rob and cliff - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Silverlight is every bit as free as Google Search - Rob La Gesse

Silverlight is free (as in beer). - Raphæl

Mike is trying to open one of those un-openable plastic wrapped packages - I feel for you, Mike! - Rob La Gesse

be careful Mike, sharp edges on that package. - michael sean wright

scissors help, Mike. - Karoli

lol, karoli. - Hilary Talbot

Ubuntu netbook remix - Raphæl

Mike - use a hand grenade, Those suckers are tough! - Rob La Gesse

seriously, take a pair of scissors and cut it. It works. surgically, even. - Karoli

Is locked down linux an open system? - Cliff Gerrish

The importance of the use of our computer devices in our lives are fundamental. That's why the software and hardware has to be free. Otherwise we don't control our lives. The software and hardware providers control our lives. That's the problem Steve. - Gregg H.

But you need a real computer to debug anything. You couldn't actually debug from within Chrome OS. - Raphæl

Is ChromeOS going to give you access to the command line? - Cliff Gerrish

Gregg - that's crazy. As crazy as "free" healthcare. - Rob La Gesse

strange disconnect between these guys talking about high tech and Mike opening a plastic insane package with his teeth. - Karoli

"free" as in freedom - Gregg H.

CromiumOS is free - Gregg H.

Rob, "free" as in accessible to all but a few elite. - Karoli

Freedom isn't free - far from it. - Rob La Gesse

free as in kittens - Kevin Marks

The importance of the use of cars, homes, electricity and food in our lives are fundamental. That's why cars, homes, electricity and food has to be free. Otherwise we don't control our lives. [oh, "free" free] - Ken Sheppardson

Chromium is NOT free. I pay for it with my attention and my gestures - and Google profits off both. - Rob La Gesse

free as in radical - Ken Sheppardson

"opening a plastic insane package with his teeth" Either a good way to take out aggression or raise blood pressure, take your choice. - JimmyJet

the livestream from SuperNova has been great. Good panels and very good discussions. - Jerry Schuman

If we understand that phones are going to the Network -- why don't we see that television is going there as well. - Cliff Gerrish

Aside from a philosophical view. After being Windows free for 2 years and being free of malware, spyware, adware, and not having to run virus scan software and all that crap, I really don't understand why people like Gillmor think Linux is second class to Windows. I would never want the pain and horrible experience of using Windows again purely for practical reasons. - Gregg H.

Gregg, I understand Windows 7 is quite nice. I'm planning to buy a cheap Windows 7 notebook as a backup machine. - Karoli

Right CLiff. - Francine Hardaway

Right. I have both GV, Vonage and Ribbit, and I have one phone number. It's my cell phone - Francine Hardaway

we just went off air - Jerry Schuman

off air? - Raphæl

oops, looks like we lost the feed. - Karoli

lost it.... - Chris Jackson

Back shortly - Cliff Gerrish

it's back - Ken Sheppardson

Windows 7 rocks. - Robert Scoble

oops - who tripped over the cord? - Rob La Gesse

hit refresh - Jerry Schuman

We know we're off the air. Sorry. - Robert Scoble

You're not :-) - Ken Sheppardson

o - is steve G. running this on a win 7 box?? - Chris Jackson

We should be back now. - Robert Scoble

get the tricaster a cooling fan stat - Brian Hendrickson

off again - Jerry Schuman

the conversation never stopped on our side, though. - Robert Scoble

sad - Raphæl

Something is wacky. My video has sucked the whole time. - Robert Scoble

We are recording this, though, and will have the whole thing up. - Robert Scoble

I'm not getting a feed. - Francine Hardaway

Please don't make me watch the Hummingbird Nest Cam. - michael sean wright

Want to know if Michael gets that Magic Jack package open. - JimmyJet

Shouldve used Justin.tv & Google Video Chat ahead of FF - A.Karriem A. Khan

it's back - Raphæl

You guys should talk a bit about Status.net, formerly Laconi.ca. Evan Proudomu just got over $1 Mil in VC. It could wind up being a very viable free federated decentralized competitor to Twitter. - Gregg H.

FF is good for importing to gmail & DataMining yourself AUTOMAGICALLY , Like TwitCloud http://www.building43.com/realtim... - A.Karriem A. Khan

Gregg: yeah, that will come up soon. Evan blocked me though. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

Tell Doc I said hi - Jesse Stay

Robert. I would love to see an interview with Status.net guys on Building43 - Gregg H.

Hi Doc and Dan and Robert...travel safely, all! thanks for the show. :) - Karoli

Thanks, we'll see what we can do regarding status.net. - Robert Scoble

Cool - Gregg H.