Nico Lumma - Likes - FriendFeed

FriendFeed is the easiest way to share online. Learn more »

Bret Taylor

A new design for FriendFeed at http://beta.friendfeed.com/ - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...

April 6 from FriendFeed Blog - Comment - Like - Share

Sharon McPherson, cshirk, Anthony K. Valley © and 325 other people liked this

Tour: http://beta.friendfeed.com/about... and FAQ: http://beta.friendfeed.com/about... - Bret Taylor

128 more comments

Great job! - Robert Scoble

Nice job friendfeed! - Kevin Mohr

Awesome work! - Aaron Draczynski

Indeed, very good job. Gives me some ideas on Nambu integration. - Gersham Meharg

realtime by default now eh? nice - Karl Rosaen

I hate it. I love it! I haven't even scrolled down to the bottom yet. Hold on.......ok, it's good. :-) - Jeff Eddings

Cheers Bret & team - it's feeling pretty good so far (which includes initial gut reaction) - Christopher Galtenberg

Nice job. I can at the very least say it is a big improvement aesthetically. I haven't finished checking everything out yet, but so far so good. - Rolf Schewe

why there is no Re-share function? - Tony

I miss the ability to have a Firefox sidebar setup that just had my list of items scrolling past and nothing else along the side like this view: http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - Justin Yost

Reshare will be back. Just an artifact of beta-testing, didn't make it in for this morning - Bret Taylor

Definitely not looking for attention here, but I just don't like it. - Nick

This real time integrated updates is pretty kick butt. Especially for comments. - Gersham Meharg

don't like the grey background - Moses

Any new comment can not move up this item? - Tony

Our settings vary to prevent things shuffling around excessively. We bubble up when someone you are subscribed to comments. - Bret Taylor

I like the updating comments, but when it shifts what I'm reading out of the frame it's a little distracting. Overall, great work! - Derek Coatney

also wish i can add links/pics/embed in the "comments"...for example, i'd like to include an image of my email from http://www.emailcover.com, but it only shows up as a link - brainno722 (Peter)

thanks, it looks awesome! - Dani Martínez

Congratulations guys on a job well done! - Thomas Hawk

Love it, but needs a floating Pause button. - Barak B

+1 Barak - Kenton

Barak, very good idea - Kol Tregaskes

The filter is great! But any filter can not output to friends. - Tony

+1 Barak - Tony

what filter? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

adding a filter sucks, things like has comments from should ajax populate :( - Stuart Evans from twhirl

you can create filters when you click "filter" - Tony

The anticipation was high, but so was delivery! Great job FF team. - Micah Wittman

Awesome! - Iván Abrego

Like it! Facebook import (notes & link, not status) seems broken though... - Alex Lomas

A keyboard shortcut for Pause, maybe? - Micah Wittman

Thanks, Alex, we will look into it, - Bret Taylor

Can you open an existing conversation in a new window? - Barak B

1st look is good, like the real time...didn't make it to the bottom the first few minutes. Also the comment box drops down as I am commenting now...message got off screen ;) - Sanne Buurma

please add keyboard shortcut for play/pause feed - Ouriel Ohayon

Please, remove the gray background. Any color, but not gray. - bnoise

Agree with Andy, dislike the fugly grey - Sally Church

Barak: click on the timestamp to open a conversation in a new window. - Kevin Mohr

Barack B : you can click the time and select open in new window. - Simon Wicks

Just bring back the filters to the main feed. Other than that, it looks awesome :D - Gerardo Curiel

Agreed, the grey isn't that great. - Gersham Meharg

refresh the page would move up the item which have newest comment? - Tony

sad grey: why don't you let everyone choose the colour of the background? - Davide Leonelli

looks awful for me - http://www.flickr.com/photos... - do not like the gray or the wasted space - Nick

Grey or not, rather think about what the beta has to offer in functionality - Sanne Buurma

Please, bring back service icons near each post — it's very hard to scan information flow without them. Also hope you'll do something with new subscription module — it's unuseful while managing a lot of imaginary friends. - Juras Vetrau

Nice. Good job guys. - Peter Kruit

The colouring needs looking at for sure. Unless, of course, you are going to redesign the logo? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

dislike the grey, sorry - Manuela

Agree on colouring - but hey its a beta. Thanks Bret. - Roberto Bonini

But Bret, picking a nice background colour is basically free (although I guess you should really be testing 41 variations :-)) - Alex Gawley

perhaps highlighting your own comments in the flood of comments (easier to scan/find)? - brainno722 (Peter)

agree, gray background is bothersome. - AJ Kohn

Wait, is the frequent shifting up and down of items I'm reading (i.e. the items in view) really supposed to work out well? I suppose you guys tried it for a while and you just got used to it? - j1m

Peter, yep but thankfully the Cleaner FriendFeed GM script still works in Chrome and FFox, which does this for you. - Kol Tregaskes

Don't like: broke my Blocks list, Block not available from Hover Menu - Will Higgins™

Why Will Higgins have a superscript of "TM"? how typed in? - Tony

it keeps the bad low-contrast grey on white text for comments that deters me from reading it. You made the main text bigger, now make the comment text black. - Kevin Marks

Fantastic job guys ! - David Berrebi

can't see source of posts and comments - Moses

Will: block will be back, just missing today, but it is not something we are removing (just something we didn't get in for this morning) - Bret Taylor

I think you guys should really embrace the idea of hashtags. Let us add them to other people's posts, having various services auto-tag imported items, let us search on them using filters. Tagging is one great way for us to get a handle on the volume of information here. - Kevin Kuphal

What's with the orange and the green on the side? Its a bit ugly if you ask me. Also, is there a way to change this, as well as make the beta permanent? (I like living on the cutting edge). - darnell

I too like the orange and green. It's the blue I'm not sure about. :-) - Daniel Dulitz

I like the FF blue - nouhad

Yeah, but it clashes with the logo. Either Friendfeed needs to change their logo, or get rid of the colors. Or (even better) allow users to change the colors. :-) - darnell

Looks horrible to me, I think we should have a customizable interface more like iGoogle, I like the idea though, just more customization, like sidebar customization, friend lists, realtime widget, chat widget, all movable and arrangeable, there sure is enough space etc... - Kyle Weller

I'm with Kyle and Darnell - I like being able to customize my GMail colours, and having that feature on FF would be cool - nouhad

Sorry, I don't like it. Real-time makes me nauseous still and the design is terrible. - Lindsey is Fierce!

Yes, bring back service icons, somewhere. Also, the bigger font in entries doesn't look good. - bnoise

Ignoring 71 previous comments... I really like the new design! One request: allow the pause button to follow my cursor as a scroll down the page! - Chris Messina

+1 Chris Messina. That would be an awesome feature. - Beau "Slick Foot" Liening

Add a floating "COMMENT" feature at the bottom of each thread, so I don't have to scroll up to click "comment"... this is a weird experience in new beta UI - Susan Beebe

@Ari: This is why I really think tagging is what they need to focus on. If we could each add #ffbeta or something to our own posts as well as others, you get the trending and other features that twitter already has. Combine this with filters and you really get some killer information management features. - Kevin Kuphal

I really like having one UI instead of different modes (normal, realtime, miniwindow), but to support the old "mini window" experience, perhaps allow the right hand side bar with filters and subscriptions to be collapsible? - Karl Rosaen

@Karl: API is key here. Twitter isn't massively popular because their website rocks. Twitter is massively popular because there's a massive layer of applications built on top of it. Build that for FF and you have the same potential growth - Kevin Kuphal

I wish it could use more of the screen real estate of my monitor, given my normal window size, it has large amounts of unused space on either size of the content due to the fixed layout. Maybe a multi-column mode? - Ray Cromwell

Nice job! but, where are my rooms?? - Krishnamoorthy

@Krishnamoorthy rooms I believe have changed to feeds beta.friendfeed.com/[room_name] - Lou Paglia

the new design works better for me. I am sure there will be glitches, but so far so good. - Sharon Hurley Hall

Is there a way to change my prefs over to to the beta so I don't have to keep entering beta.friendfeed...? - Ryan Stanley

UI suggestion: there's a link to expand all comments, there should be one to collapse them as wel. - Ryan Stanley

UI suggestion: after expanding comments you scroll all the way to the bottom reading the thread, then you have scroll all the way back up to click the Comment link. Why not have it at the bottom of the thread too. - Ryan Stanley

Feature suggestion: FF needs a built-in way of referring to people publicly, just like Twitter's @. Perhaps use the same convention. But there needs to be a way people to address each other in public threads, so a user can make sure to be informed when people are talking or referring to them. - Ryan Stanley

going to read through faq - roadmap of what made beta & what's going away would be nice - big concern for me is the lose of ability to expand lists to see individual participants - i find that one of ff's strongest features - that and block but i see from earlier in this thread that its will make it in later in beta (whew)... - mike "glemak" dunn

Um, Twitter much? - Christiana

A Pause button that follows you on page scroll could be more distracting than it's worth. But how about something like it appears upon a white space mousedown/mouseup event. - Micah Wittman

You guys should use this userstyle: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - Kyle Weller

Curious about how the new design will affect the iPhone version of the site...? - Chris Messina

welcome qwerty. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Hmm, I tried to read this thread, but I never got to the bottom, because the unexpected shifts of the text just became too much after a while. Fundamentally, if the page keeps shifting up and down unexpectedly, it's hard to see how anyone's ever going to read it -- hence the many requests for a floating pause button, which would help. You could also imagine pause on hover. Being able to read down the page without having the text disappear seems to me like the #1 use case of ff. - j1m

I like it. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Of course, it's not really like you want Pause -- the real-time updates are great when they're below wherever the eyes are :-) - j1m

I love the new UI! I'm a big fan. It feels a lot cleaner and more organized. The real-timeness doesn't bother me. It seems pretty clever about when and when not to refresh. Great job, guys!!! : ) - Jess Lee

Bret - Great job! There are certainly things to clean up before this interface goes to the main page. Rooms should REALLY be on the subscribed list on the right hand column. I would LOVE to be able to put Blank Lines in comments. I don't care if they count for a whole lines worth of characters (as opposed to a more common one character for the cr/lf) Blank lines make comments more legible and clear than just a runtogether paragraph. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I don't like how the interface STILL loses my place if I subscribe to someone while posting a comment (or even reading it!) I should be able to subscribe to YOU while I read YOU and not lose my page place. The Page should need to be refreshed to reset everyone because of the new subscription. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I don't know about the queued items, I like the real time feed, having selectable speeds instead of "over-caffination required mode" would be good. Most discussions this is irrelevant, but the discussion on tis new beta this morning (i.e. on scoble's feed) showed how insane that can be. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

The real-time-only feed in the beta is causing Safari 4b on my MacBook use up a lot of CPU cycles, hence depleting the battery faster. I'm sure FF3 will too. Please consider an "ECO Mode" similar to the current standard mode, which only refreshes once every few minutes, for those running their machines on battery power. Without such an eco-mode, and with the rapid-fire pace of live updates, I fear that I won't be using FFeed much at all. Certainly not leaving that tab open for hours on end like I used to. - Siddharth Deb

I don't know if I've done something, or you guys did, but when I look here, I only have a few services setup in the account, when I go to the old interface I have a LOT more -I'm not certain that everything is feeding through? (i.e. I have Digg and Disqus set up, I see the correct list of icons on the old interface, but on the beta "settings" popup, No Dice. Even if this is irrelevant to the actual data flow, please fix this to make me sleep well at night. ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

One more thing - Could we have a character counter in the comments? It would be REALLY nice, if my account is setup to post this comment to my twitter account, and it's going to post the link to this discussion, please Add the number of characters in the link (plus a space) to the total character count. That way I won't be truncating the comment and/or the URL when it gets to twitter. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Another thing: I used to be able to click the "More" next to a single discussion, and "Link to this discussion" Where is that? If this is an outmoded way of thinking please let me know. Otherwise, um...can we have that feature back? - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: the timestamp ("9 hours ago") is the permalink - Benjamin Golub

Benjamin: You rock! Thanks! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

do you need a techno dunce to help the average joe make sense of this?? haha...i love it... - Lauren Shanahan

Very twitter like. But better due to nice conversational. - xiawinter

I actually kinda like the grey... though it does look like it's an opportunity to let companies brand the background in some way. - Frankie Warren

For cc to Twitter functionality, can the number of characters be a count-down instead of a count-up? - Winston Teo

I'd like to second the notion that there should be a way to address an individual within a thread...the agreed upon "Rob:" works great, but maybe could be clickable so that there's no confusion as to which Rob or which Scoble you're talking to ;) (i.e. maybe a CTRL-Click or something on the person's name after their comment to start a new comment with their name at the beginning? ) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

The grey background looks kinda dullish, and it looks like someone ran out of ideas for colours.. - Winston Teo

IMO avatars occupy way too much real estate now, I liked the smaller ones better. - ǝuǝƃnǝ

thsi is nothing on the new design, but after being on here all night with no attention to a down twitter, I am reminded of this: It would be nice if I could set the post to twitter for comments and likes a) permanent b) off or C) on a per comment/like basis -twitter users say this "yeah, when ppl I follow flood me with FF spam ... I usually unfollow ... even block if it irritates me enough." And I would like to be able to be easily selective of what gets put through, and it would get more GOOD attn for FF - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

please, for the love of god, move the "comment" link to the BOTTOM of the list of comments. seriously, am I the only one who can't believe this hasn't been fixed for so long? - Dossy Shiobara

I like it - Cristian

Great stuff! :-) FriendFeed does it better than Facebook. Please go real-time all the way for subscription requests and confirmatoions too. - Nenad Nikolic from twhirl

++ Nenad Nikolic - Darren Heydon

I dont like nofollows on friendfeed and links are moved to urls very bad :( - Turkey banned Bloggum :(

I like quick stats on user feed on top right of screen. - Turkey banned Bloggum :(

Love the new friendfeed! - Chris Martin from Nambu

It's not bad, but I prefer the smoothness of the old one to the lines and edges in this new one. - scott willeke

I love the new letter-counting post widget in the beta though. - scott willeke

at first glance, find it much more readable than the old one. Pity there still isn't "my items that were liked or commented by others" - Stephanie Booth from twhirl

Bret: all the videos are now up at http://scobleizer.blip.tv -- thanks for inviting me and for all you do. - Robert Scoble

I like this beta - Goofy2

Stephanie: comments:1 likes:1 from:sbooth - Justin Long

stephanie & justin - that is in the catch all http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter... - i went and liked/commented on something from each of you that had no other activity - you should both see that bubble up in /discussions... - mike "glemak" dunn

LOVE THE NEW BETA ! the new filter is so powerful, more powerful if you could add "language parameter"!! - foxmachia {山石}

still waiting for direct-to-room links on the right column, is it planned? (with lastupdated timestamps if possible) - Kemal Hadimli

Nice. - Thomas Chai

Louis Gray

“You Have Zero Privacy Anyway. Get Over It”–That Goes Double on Social Networks - http://kara.allthingsd.com/2009021...

February 16 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

Justin Davey, Andrew Terry, dK and 27 other people liked this

But as a practical matter, how do we manage this? There are some things that just should be private! - V Mary Abraham

39 more comments

There is no total privacy on the web. By connecting two computers and transferring data, you give privacy away at some level of risk in exchange for something. - Clay

A good rule of thumb is, if you aren't comfortable sharing a piece of information by using a megaphone in the middle of Times Square, you shouldn't put it online. If you want something to stay private, don't post it online, especially on a social network. - Mark Trapp

Privacy is a modern concept put there by people living in towns and cities to big for word of mouth to spread about who we are. - Richard A.

@Mark Trapp, then why does Facebook have privacy controls? - LogEx

I've been posting all kinds of family stuff online at an unlisted URL for years. Nothing super-secret, but I wouldn't use a megaphone in Times Square. - Bruce Lewis

Kara misses a number of key points, including the fact that Facebook's (new) TOS is draconian compared to virtually all other large services. - LogEx

Richard - I don't know what you're on but privacy is not a "modern" concept unless you want to consider all of the last millenium modernity. - Mattie Kenny from fftogo

How do those privacy controls prevent your friends or people who can see your profile from copying the information on your profile and posting it in a public area? You've given your information over to people who are not you, and they can do whatever they want with it: privacy controls are as effective as window locks; if a burglar breaks the window and unlocks the window, we don't start getting angry at the window lock maker, do we? - Mark Trapp

In the grand scheme of mankind as a whole privacy is modern. When you're a child going to the local school everyone knows you and you know everyone. As a result you don't have "privacy" or anonimity. - Richard A.

Mark, everything that is possible is not necessarily legal, moral, ethical, or desirable. There are social norms for how most people treat different kinds of information from friends of varying levels of intimacy. - LogEx

Mark, that's why I don't accept just anyone to be my friend on facebook. I avoid having strangers for that precise reason. - Richard A.

Privacy controls and terms of service are not going to institute your idea of social norms: one need only to look at the brief history of the internet for example after example. An awareness of the technical inability to control your data should not be mitigated by a false sense of "privacy:" if you don't want others to be in control of your data, don't post it online. - Mark Trapp

Logical thing would be simply not to post really private information online. Not that hard not to post street addresses and more. I say that as a user of google latitude though. - Richard A.

Privacy controls shouldn't "institute" social norms, but they should support social norms. I have a pretty good sense of what I'm willing to put online in various forums and what not to. The point with FB's new TOS is that it is very anti-user. - LogEx

Excellent piece. Period. - Charlie Anzman

Jason - bingo. It is a site for everyone and sharing is so simple, that everyone uploads all of their content without thinking. Even grandmothers. At least us (well the people harping about the TOS changes) have an understanding of *what* the stipulations are. Half of my friends on Facebook don't even know what Twitter IS. - Mona Nomura

They don't need to know what twitter is. Would be boring to have everyone I know in the physical world using the site. More fun when it's more international. - Richard A.

Mona - Can you imagine how many people are wondering what a TOS is? (Sad but probably true...) - Charlie Anzman

Perhaps I wasn't clear, but my point was: people are talking about how stupid this issue is and we need to 'get over it'. Fact is, most users are not as savvy as 'us' and unfamiliar with Social Networks. What is common knowledge to you, may not be common knowledge to them. And like Jason said above, the scariest part is the false sense of security. @Charlie - that is why I explained it the way I did on PixelBits. - Mona Nomura

Mona - Have a feeling there's a HUGE segment of your generation (+/-) that may have a big surprise when they apply for jobs, etc ... later in their lives. It's been talked about before, but you're right, and its good to bring it up again every once in a while ... Did someone say politics?? :) - Charlie Anzman

One 'gotcha' about social networks is not what YOU share, but what your FRIENDS share. I have more than a handful of friends who've been burned by photos other people shared on social networks. so even if you're not on a social network, actively sharing, you're still at risk if you have an actual social life offline. - .LAG liked that

Word of mouth will "gotcha" just as lethally though. In the same way you don't tell certain friends certain secrets you don't mention certain things to certain friends. - Richard A.

Summation - With everyone running around with streaming cellphones soon, the next time you pass gas ... it'll be on YouTube - Charlie Anzman

If you're an iphone user that is (gas joke) - Richard A.

Most people think it's a typo. "Did you really mean POS?" ha. - Mona Nomura

Privacy is not a black or white thing: it is true that if I share a link to a picture of my daughter, chances are that if I remove that picture, someone has made a local copy and can still access it. But what is sad is that facebook is working against privacy. They should help me remove the link to those pictures if I decide to do so instead of saying: no we are going to make sure that there is no chance you can remove that link. - Edwin Khodabakchian

I doubt there is such thing as an "unlisted URL", Bruce. Ever tried googling this content you mention? - Alexandros Georgiadis

I agree with Edwin. It's different to have to live with consequences than making sure there are consequences. Shouldn't there be a period within which to accept the changes or clear our data? - Alexandros Georgiadis

yesterday I went into a local art store to buy some pens, and before the cashier rang me up, he asked for my email address. Taken aback, I told him firmly I wasn't going to give it to him. Couldn't imagine announcing it in a store full of people...lol. He couldn't understand my reticence. Generational, I'm sure. For many there is no barrier between online and offline life, privacy-wise. I'm a bit more schooled in what happens when TMI is revealed online... - Karoli

You'd better start wearing a mask, people know your face. - Richard A.

nah, they can know my face and my name and still not know where I live or how to email me. :) - Karoli

Strongly agree with Jason and Mona's comments. Reminds me of the brilliant BK app that was disabled. What's wrong with encouraging users to reevaluate their "friends" list(s)? http://www.facebook.com/apps... FB creates a false sense of security for new users and saddles new users with privacy settings that come with a learning curve AND experienced users with privacy settings which are crippled. - Jack Frizzell

Alexandros, both robots.txt and meta tags are used to advise search engines not to index my family pages. It's got essentially the same level of privacy as a photo holiday card printed at a store and mailed to lots of friends and family. Absolutely secret, no. Available to random strangers, no. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

If you want to keep it private, don't put it in an electronic medium that is easy to distribute. Passwords, SSL, HTTPS, regardless. - Ryan Stanley

I work a lot with teachers and MS/HS students. One thing that always interests the teachers is how the the concept of privacy is just downright different for their students. Things teachers would hold close to their chest students will post and not care about the privacy of it (they have other, deeper, darker secrets they're not posting, I'm sure). Point is, the world is changing and the younglings are naturally changing with it. - Ryan Stanley

At some point, the act of not participating will become suspicious. I think that is the scary part. Social networks operate on peer pressure - the peer pressure to join. So, eventually, in my opinion, the question shifts to why are you sharing private information about yourself on the internet to why aren't you. - levinsontodd

Todd: when my friends were moving out of the US, they decided against Amsterdam because over there they leave the curtains open all the time and you look like a criminal if you close them (so they were told). So it's not like it hasn't happened before ... definitely something to watch for. - LJF Wolffe

LJF Wolffe: I agree, not a new historical precedent at all and one that has had more dire consequences than social pressure to keep your curtains open. - levinsontodd

Absolutely. Being perceived as "something to hide" is often worse than actually hiding something. (Which is why I tried to set a pattern in FB from the beginning of not sharing anything I don't want to see in a FB ad. Which means no pictures. For me.) - LJF Wolffe

Jason Kaneshiro: I don't think it's the opposite. On social networks, you're not connecting with a real person, your connecting with an representational version of a person. In a way, you still are getting away from people. - levinsontodd

Robert Scoble

If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:

January 11 - Comment - Like - Share

Kreg Steppe, Mehmet Aydin, Göze Sencer and 312 other people liked this

1. Stop begging for followers. It turns off all the interesting people. - Robert Scoble

461 more comments

2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment. - Robert Scoble

3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre." - Robert Scoble

I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-) - Warren

4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise. - Robert Scoble

Sounds like someone's running low on wine :) - Eric Florenzano

5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from. - Robert Scoble

6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards. - Robert Scoble

7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-) - Robert Scoble

Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :) - WorldofHiglet

8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back. - Robert Scoble

What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas? - Dave Cadoff

9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot. - Robert Scoble

LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction" - Sprite

10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already. - Robert Scoble

Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible. - Jesse Stay

11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face. - Robert Scoble

BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers - Jesse Stay

Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it. - Robert Scoble

Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead? - Will Higgins™

12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked). - Robert Scoble

I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers. - Mike Nayyar

13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you. - Robert Scoble

14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble

er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo? - WorldofHiglet

15. Tweet from a burning plane. - Robert Scoble

16. Tweet from jail. - Robert Scoble

17. Tweet your marriage proposal. - Robert Scoble

Robert, so you're saying I got you more followers? - Jesse Stay

18. Tweet you are dying. - Robert Scoble

19. Be a member of congress, or better yet, Barack Obama. - Robert Scoble

This would loose me followers. Trust me on this. It would also get me a few lawsuits I think. :D - MarkCarras

this is going to go on for like...days...isn't it :P - Erin @queenofspain

#18 is reasonable, as long as you don't actually die. Lowers your productivity. - Ken Brady

Jesse: hanging out with you made me far cooler than I was previously. - Robert Scoble

If I'm gonna get naked, I've got to have some sort of revenue coming in. At least enough to buy a netbook with. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Write a FriendFeed post about how to get others to follow you - Jesse Stay

20. Get your picture on the Twitter blog. (Actually that didn't work that well because they didn't include my Twitter address). Heheh. - Robert Scoble

be yourself and those that fit with you will follow? or at least seem a certain way for that audience? - David

21. Tweet while having sex. Or getting drunk. Or, better yet, doing both. - Robert Scoble

Robert, no, I must say I became much cooler hanging out with you - Jesse Stay

Will: Mead? Absolutely! - Robert Scoble

Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-) - Robert Scoble

22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!! - Robert Scoble

Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man - Jesse Stay

23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it. - Robert Scoble

24. Write a book about Twitter. - Robert Scoble

naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else? - Erin @queenofspain

25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart. - Robert Scoble

Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it - Chris Saad

WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground. - Baba

26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch. - Robert Scoble

I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D - MarkCarras

27. Question @loic's Frenchness. - Robert Scoble

Go to breakfast with @techcrunch and he tweets about it randomly - Chris Saad

"Have Scoble say you are interesting." Just worked for a few people I am going to "try follow". - Dean Clark

Erin, welcome to Twitter ;-) - Jesse Stay

28. Be like Baba and call everyone who worries about being followed an idiot. Or 28B. Agree with Baba. Personally, he's right! - Robert Scoble

Tell any blogger they're wrong - Jesse Stay

29. Claim you are above this stupid game. - Robert Scoble

Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months - Jesse Stay

All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D - MarkCarras

30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people. - Robert Scoble

lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow - Erin @queenofspain

What kind of wine are we talking here? - Chris Poirier

Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :) - Jesse Stay

31: Give away something. Hold a contest. - Robert Scoble

Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer - Chris Saad

32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them. - Robert Scoble

be in a warzone and don't die - Simon T Small

33. Do something outrageous for followers. - Robert Scoble

Start a thread going on and on about it on FriendFeed :) - Chris Saad

imagine what'd happen if you had sex with Obama on a burning plane heading for a warzone, whilst drunk, and piloting the plane? - Simon T Small

@Simon ROFL too funny - Chris Saad

34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers. - Robert Scoble

Take a pic down a girls shirt and post it on FF. - David

Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D - Chris Saad

Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps - Jesse Stay

35. Get your Twitter address on CNN. UPDATE: Hey, Chris Saad here you have to put http://www.friendfeed.com/chrissa... heheh. - Robert Scoble

Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol - Erin @queenofspain

I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread. - Jesse Stay

Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P - Mol, Time Warping

be Robert Scoble - Simon T Small

36. Jesse Stay found a new one: comment on lots of friendfeed threads! - Robert Scoble

@simontsmall post your Twitter feed here http://twitter.com/simonts... - Simon T Small

Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers - Jesse Stay

Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you - Paul Povolni

I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D - MarkCarras

I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers - Simon T Small

Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes. - Robert Scoble

37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering. - Robert Scoble

I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D - MarkCarras

38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame. - Robert Scoble

Robert: haha! I'll try it now :) - Simon T Small

39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan. - Robert Scoble

Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post - Ian D. Nock

40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble

41. Go to Gnomedex. - Robert Scoble

Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy. - Anika

Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it! - Simon T Small

No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit - Erin @queenofspain

42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration. - Robert Scoble

I figured it out before Jeremiah: http://staynalive.com/article... - Jesse Stay

43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream). - Robert Scoble

Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain - Jesse Stay

44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior. - Robert Scoble

Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff! - Colleen

45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon. - Robert Scoble

Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-) - Robert Scoble

Don't forget the with @mchammer part - Jesse Stay

Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback - Chris Saad

47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room). - Robert Scoble

Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone - Chris Saad

48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does. - Robert Scoble

49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet. - Robert Scoble

Got any more? - Robert Scoble

Throw popularity out the window and somehow measure influence (stay tuned) :) - Chris Saad

Make a list of ways to get more followers. - Scott Kingery

change your name to your @twitter handle - Simon T Small

Chris: hah, even better, have so many followers already that you break MrTweet. :-) - Robert Scoble

50. Post cleavage pictures of yourself with your Twitter name plastered on the picture CLASSY! - Mona Nomura

Ustream the birth of your new baby (even higher risk, but at least you have proof): http://www.ustream.tv/blog... - Jesse Stay

51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that? - Mona Nomura

Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned - Simon T Small

This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness - Paul Povolni

52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN! - Mona Nomura

Be Warren Buffett or similar. - Moushumi Kabir

Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better. - Robert Scoble

53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY - Mona Nomura

54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email! - Mona Nomura

Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side) - Simon T Small

Be a default on FriendFeed - Jesse Stay

Nice to see this list here instead of scattered across oblivion---I mean Twitter... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

use http://search.twitter.com to find people that like what you like, @reply them and RT their stuff. :) - Simon T Small

Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you. - Robert Scoble

Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!) - Mona Nomura

Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends - Chris Saad

Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't. - Andrew Smith

Get your name on Alltop - Jesse Stay

another posting sponsored by Palm *yawn* - Dieter Schwarz from Nambu

Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids. - Mona Nomura

Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;) - Mona Nomura

Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too - Jesse Stay

@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me - Chris Saad

Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES! - Mona Nomura

Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :) - Chris Saad

Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well - Jesse Stay

Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing! - Mona Nomura

Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account). - Robert Scoble

Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook. - Simon T Small

i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger - Andreas Klinger

Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-) - Robert Scoble

Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea) - Jesse Stay

Robert: U do both so its all good :) - Chris Saad

Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity. - Scott Kingery

55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos. - Robert Scoble

56. Don't auto-DM followers just follow them back or RT their next tweet - Damian Holmes

Get a tshirt made with your twitter name on it... - Luke Harvey-Palmer

Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem. - Jesse Stay

So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D - MarkCarras

57. post a comment to a robert scoble FF feed - Damian Holmes

Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten. - Robert Scoble

Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?) - Jesse Stay

58. write your twitter name on your eyelids then go to a tweetup or large tech conference - Damian Holmes

MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft. - Robert Scoble

Spam FF with your useful knowledge - WorldofHiglet

Be an early adopter - be one of the first, get in early, and build a follow base early - Jesse Stay

Another one? Take pictures of Twitter users and follow them. They almost always follow back. - Robert Scoble

I aint never heard of Don Box, and that means I didn't see that underwear! ;). No, seriously, I concede, but I had to make a retort. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

This thread is my bucket list. - Eric Florenzano

I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them. - Helge V. Keitel

Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag). - Jesse Stay

Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?" - Robert Scoble

Never sleep - Jesse Stay

#ces09 hash #mwsf09 tags #cwc09 use #sxsw09 them #snl as #jackiepetersspawn much · #gaza as #hiphop possible #burritos every #dubstep other #microblogging word = KEY (relevance matters not) - Mona Nomura

Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works). - Robert Scoble

@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too - Chris Saad

Mona you are *so* followed - Jesse Stay

Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too! - Robert Scoble

follow A, B, C, D, E, F, X and Z listers - Damian Holmes

Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back. - Leslie Carothers

Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag - Jesse Stay

I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :( - Mona Nomura

Follow the Top 500 in your City then Top 500 in your Country that's at least 500 follow backs - Damian Holmes

Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list? - Robert Scoble

I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you. - Mari Smith

58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you... - Sheraz Mahmood

ROFL Robert! - Jesse Stay

share links to awesome blog posts - Simon T Small

Sheraz Mahmood I just tried that, thought i'd do something, but 10 minutes later and nothing *cries* - Simon T Small

59. Be the center of the universe...the rest will follow - Sheraz Mahmood

Unnecessarily talk about iPhones. - Mona Nomura

Start browser wars. - Mona Nomura

Re-Tweet all of Tech Crunch's posts. - Mona Nomura

Start Steve Jobs rumors - Mona Nomura

Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them. - Mona Nomura

By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money. - Simon T Small

Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry - Simon T Small

Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :) - Scott Kingery

Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe - Mari Smith

60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must. - Louis Gray

Robert: were not all in Silicon Valley - its 16:30 in China - (awaiting the flames or unfollows - which is worst?) - Damian Holmes

... and always listen to Scoble! Ha-ha. Robert, we admire you! - Alan Kodzasov

Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter - Simon T Small

Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd. - Mona Nomura

Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed! - Mona Nomura

Mona: absolutely! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-) - Ken Brady

Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;) - videopixil

When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY. - Mona Nomura

Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them. - Luca Filigheddu from fftogo

Have a sense of humor! - Mona Nomura

Not to forget: You need to stress that Mac and iPhone are cool and superior. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says. - Ken Brady

@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well. - Leslie Carothers

Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows. - Yuvi

better yet. take Robert AND Louis to a Vodka bar - Erin @queenofspain

OMG iPhones are SO 2008. Becoming a Palm, Pre, and Nova fanbois = FUTURE - Mona Nomura

@Mona Humor is key. What better length at which to be witty? Any longer than this and most of us become dull. - Ken Brady

Robert, I kinda bagged you, with a positive spin, it got me on openzap 'today's best' http://openzap.com/ - Simon T Small

Crap, #palm #pre #nova #followme #ILOVEROBERTSCOBLE!!!!!!!!!! - Mona Nomura

This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships. - Leslie Carothers

Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;) - Helge V. Keitel

Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good. - Robert Scoble

Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter. - Mona Nomura

Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :( - Mona Nomura

This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -] - Chris Loft

Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured. - Mona Nomura

Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool. - Mona Nomura

stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try... - Ryan

mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo) - Matt Rendo

Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool. - Mona Nomura

All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself. - Brandon Mendelson

@mattrendo, already been said up there! But you FAIL since you forgot the hashtag: #scoblizerrulesOMGWTFBACON. - Mona Nomura

Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-) - Robert Scoble

So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks? - Chris Saad

Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time. - Leslie Carothers

I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;) - Rodney Rumford

If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;) - Mona Nomura

Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are - Jesse Stay

I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned - Matt Rendo

Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay

@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it. - Ken Brady

61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item. - Steve Garfield

Bacon IS the future, Matt! - Mona Nomura

#monanisaddicatedtohashtags :P #simonlikeshashtagstoo - Simon T Small

Is this the biggest thread ever on FriendFeed? - Eric Florenzano

Get Rodney Rumford to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay

This is an EPIC thread. Thank you Robert and THANK YOU INTERNET! - Mona Nomura

62: Follow Steve Garfield in a Scoble numbered list - Jesse Stay

bacon - http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008... - Matt Rendo

#WWRD - videopixil

I wonder how long it will take Friendfeed to add comment ratings like Digg? - Simon T Small

Hey Mr. Scoble! You make it sound like a bad thing to be online on a Saturday night. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto

Refrain from hijacking someone's thread by digressing with bacon - Focus, Matt. FOCUS! - Mona Nomura

Hilarious thread BTW!! - Eddie Soto

Content is king!!!!!!! (Mona see, 7) - Amit Morson

See... Me=failure A sense of humor seems to attract followers too. - Matt Rendo

Memorize this entire thread by EOD Monday and recite it back to Robert - on video! - Mona Nomura

Re-Tweet all 264 lines Googleplex times - or until the FailWhale / FailRobot appears. - Mona Nomura

Talk about how much you love Twitter and Facebook. - dont' forget the hashtags: pound facebook pound twitter. - Mona Nomura

Jesse. OK. Now I am smiling man... lol. By the way thanks for writing the afterword for my twitter book: Twitter as a Business Tool. - Rodney Rumford

Deem yourself a Social Network Expert and write a bajillion blog posts on "How to Use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura

Oops. Sorry Rodney. Bad timing... :) - Mona Nomura

Be consistently random - wait, no, then they will unfollow you :( - Matt Rendo

Always use emoticons as disclaimers! - Mona Nomura

What is this thread about?. I forgot by the time I read to the end of it. - Jim Bednarz

Bash on mattrendo - Matt Rendo

Always use *this* emoticon: :-) - WorldofHiglet

Have foot in mouth moments. Oh, wait... - Mona Nomura

63: Profit!! - Aaron Baer

Be a spam artist - Matt Rendo

Follow everyone posting here - Sheraz Mahmood

back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters - Sheraz Mahmood

I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next? - Liz

Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes. - Matt Rendo

Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while. - Phil G

You forgot to add being Karl Rove to the list: http://twitter.com/KarlRov... - Roberto Bonini

Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof! - Dave

Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog. - Klaus Alexander Seistrup

Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed. - Amit Morson

To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme! - Jesse P. Luna

@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up. - Mona Nomura

Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Chris Loft

Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW! - Sally Church

One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-) - Paul Shadwell

I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto

Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you - Bertrand Doux

On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... * - Sally Church

Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this! - Kevin Lloyd

Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :) - Christopher Kusek

I'm using Windows 7 right now! I've posted tweets and videos of it on YouTube - check it out! http://friendfeed.com/e... - Will Higgins™

Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[ - Chris Loft

point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :))) - A.T.

64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep - Tyler (Chacha)

65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning - Tyler (Chacha)

66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it) - Tyler (Chacha)

You guys are awesome by the way. - Tyler (Chacha)

Tattoo your twitter/friendfeed address on other people. - Kevin Leroux

lmao!!! great one Robert - Kaysha

get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble. - Christine Lu

Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..) - Thomas Bøhm

Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in! - Gaby K. Slezák

A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !! - İbrahim Uzun [ j ]

Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world. - Bob Starr

RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;) - John Craft

RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm? - Alvin

Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :) - Alvin

67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-) - Gaby K. Slezák

stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway - Stephen Breen

You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands! - John D Reasor

yet still looking busy kthxbai - Thomas Bøhm

Stop caring who follows you! - Elias Bizannes

I can't scroll to the bottom ;-) This list is hilarious! Robert, I'm glad you have been taking notes this whole time! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

Do NOT use the phrase "social media" in your Twitter bio. - Frank Scavo

"16. Tweet from jail" ahahahahahahaha :) - Lucio

I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh. - Chris Loft

Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;) - Tyson Key

Post a picture of you with someone famous... http://tinyurl.com/8xbcds - geekazine

“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc - Tapio Kulmala

Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON - BEX

Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference. - Liz

Lock Robert Scoble, Mona N, Jesse Stay, Louis Gray, Jason Calacanis and Techcrunch in a room. Only release them when they've retweeted every single of your tweets and told all their followers to follow you! - Nicholas James

nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me. - tomartomartini

Set up a low-wage tweet farmer in China. - Richard Sprague

Use Jennifer Aniston's cleavage as your avatar. - Jim Mitchem

omg I go to bed and you people KEEP GOING. unreal. - Erin @queenofspain

Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days) - Tyler (Chacha)

Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments! - Tyler (Chacha)

Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted. - iamkhayyam

Create a Robert Scoble fan blog and title it Mr. Awesome. :) - Bill Romanos

69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there. - Valeria Maltoni

Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here. - mrsha

I am reading this in friendfeed on my iPhone and immediately regretting my decision to tap "read more..." I made it through the first 12 then began skimming and my thumb began sobbing... - John Reynolds

I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow! - Robert Scoble

Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-) - Marco Massarotto

Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream! - Tom Guarriello

i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers. - Robert Scoble

Robert - define spam... Is this post spam? - Brian Roy

Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history. - Mike Lewis

You're right! I forgot about the spammers :D - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient - Kelly W.

70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc.. - Todd Jordan

It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning". - Brian Roy

patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

How to get Robert et al to follow you - http://friendfeed.com/e... - Todd Jordan

Commentate on sports during the game or politics during debates. - Nicki Laycoax

Put a nice Twitter Icon on your blog like mine http://marketingtechblog.com - Douglas Karr

You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :) - Steven Sanders

Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost. - Todd Jordan

AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7! - Dave Oliver

Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread. - Robert Scoble

It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way. - Daniel Miessler

Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market. - Todd Jordan

OMG this is STILL alive?! WOW - Mona Nomura

Keep it going!!!! - Tyler (Chacha)

I'm wondering at how many comments this will start crashing browsers - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles. - Mona Nomura

Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts? - Mona Nomura

@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts. - Todd Jordan

Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa) - Mona Nomura

Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker

Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks! - Brian Roy

Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura

I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around. - Liz

Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No? - Brian Roy

Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert

Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE! - Mona Nomura

Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system. - David Rose

I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

+1 Mona! I'll make a video of this :D - Yuvi

Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys? - Brian Roy

Another would be to make a Bacon Fan Club Room. - Nicholas James

Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :) - Nicola Quinn

PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain) - Jesse P. Luna

Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone! - Mona Nomura

Be imperfect, fragile, human - someone everyone can relate to. - Tomi Itkonen

Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s. - Larry Kless

71. Create a list that combines Sex and Windows http://friendfeed.com/e... - Tyler (Chacha)

Hate on someone enough for them to write about you. It worked for Sean Hammons (Clicky) and Techcrunch.......... - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

i'm afraid some of those won't quite give you the right kind of followers - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

entertain! - kosmar

I'm wondering if everyone who has commented here is at least following each other now. - Nicola Quinn

Nicola - no. I think I have a block on my account that I can't figure out. ;) - Jim Mitchem

Oh dear Jim, that doesn't sound good. Just managed to subscribe to you so that's ok then. - Nicola Quinn

Nicola Quinn: I have not had one new follower from this, but I did have an entertaining conversation. - MarkCarras

There Mark, you've got at least one :) - Nicola Quinn

@nicola you followed me :) - kosmar

I tweet from jail on a regular basis - Alan Simpson

Kosmar, I did! You following me? - Nicola Quinn

@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!! - Alemsah Ozturk

Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines. - Mark Stahler

Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed! - Gaby K. Slezák

Wow. 400. - Robert Scoble

Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs! - AdPanda

You can order custom wine labels to bribe Scoble with at http://www.bottleyourbrand.com/ - Internet Strategist

Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol. - Robert Couture

Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread! - Charlie Anzman

Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic? - Susan Beebe

How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill. - Scott Maentz

@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :) - Todd Jordan

Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer - Paul Povolni

Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online! - Mona Nomura

Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant! - Mona Nomura

Complain about every. little. thing. - Mona Nomura

no Mona you are wrong. - Brian Roy

Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS - Mona Nomura

Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop! - Mona Nomura

every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon... - Brian Roy

@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks. - AJ Kohn

oh... Ok. It is hidden now. - Brian Roy

@Brian: Thank you. Greatly appreciated! - AJ Kohn

423 comments? :O - Will Higgins™

I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!! - BEX

I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF - Susan Beebe

The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :) - Eric Florenzano

Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms? - David Feng

I have some ideas, none of which are usable. - WorldofHiglet

subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble.. - TechMama Beth Blecherman

I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF! - Winston Teo

TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction. - Robert Scoble

You don't. - David Spinks

What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN! - Jim Bednarz

Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right! - Robert Scoble

Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D - Seth Greenblatt

Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :) - Charlie Anzman

Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing. - Mr. Gunn

Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule) - Tyler (Chacha)

Better than the cover of Rolling Stone!! http://blog.twitter.com/2009... - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :) - Charlie Anzman

Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :) - Charlie Anzman

Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts. - Christian Anderson

Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-) - Robert Scoble

Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button! - Yule Heibel

I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

doing video works pretty well too :) - Loic Le Meur

great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :) - Alberto D'Ottavi

tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X - Rachael Depp

whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality? - Bob Hitching

And then you hate IM... - Dario Salvelli

I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat. - Simon T Small

Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours - Simon T Small

omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ? - Thomas Bøhm

I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P - Mathew A. Koeneker

this is so last week... - Edward Zwart

Robert: You need to add one more. "Send Tweets from a Ferry when a plane crashes on the Hudson" like http://twitter.com/jkrums - Alex Sauceda

"Hudson-Plane" and the Web2.0 viralism response http://friendfeed.com/rooms... ; http://friendfeed.com/e... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010

Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p - mtlb

This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D - Daniel Schildt

This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW - Sheldon Steiger from twhirl

this stuff works for real! wow! - Siddharth Parmar

I felt like bumping the most discussed conversation ever on Friendfeed. Here ya go - Tyler (Chacha)

or tweet about this friendfeed-post! - bumping ;-) - Torsten Eckert

Become a Needle in a Haystack - geekazine

Have them join up on sprnch and watch them walk around in real time. http://sprnch.com/search_... - SpRnch

Steve Rubel

Was Macrumors just hacked or is this a cruel joke?

January 6 - Comment - Like - Share

LonelyBob, Dimitar Vesselinov, Kris and 25 other people liked this

saw that, hacked & cruel absolutely! - George Tziralis

28 more comments

Hacked "Retraction on Steve Jobs comment...we don't know how that got in our feed." - Steve Rubel

sick, sick joke. - Hao Chen

what @george said - .LAG liked that

That is AWFUL - Mona Nomura

The unintended comments are continuing haha, something's wrong... - Glenn Batuyong from twhirl

Cruel joke. - Neal Jansons

Their tech guy might want to insert an Apache auth/htaccess to their AJAX live site - Glenn Batuyong from twhirl

Site is down now - any other sources for updates? - Rob Fay

http://www.engadget.com/2009... - Steve Rubel from IM

engadget and cruchgear are both blogging live - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)

Try http://twitter.com/macworld too - Don Nunn

Jeff: You have to refresh the page manually on crunchgear. VentureBeat have a realtime room on FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... - Nicholas James

This isn't funny at all. It's cruel. - Mol, Time Warping

Their passwords are in a file posted to Twitter: http://www.macrumorslive.com/admin... - Louis Gray

I can't say it enough. There needs to be a public outcry to motivate the FBI and their international counterparts to improve detection systems, and prosecution. Make examples out of several scum bags. Let the online world go forward without the waste. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

what's happens to the web?! so much hate and stupidity. - Orli Yakuel

It's still kinda funny - Lindsey is Fierce!

I certainly didn't think it was funny. - Enriqueta

bwa ha ha ha ha ha . . . I think it was 4chan, *now* its definitely funny. - Lindsey is Fierce!

Its anything but funny! We hear so much twitter hacked and now macworld, why not about catching the hackers? - Sudha Jamthe

What the hell is "funny" in that? - Didier Lahely

yeh its funny until you remind yourself the guy is sick - Franz Sittampalam

He's not sick at the moment. He had a hormone imbalance. - Lindsey is Fierce!

It's not funny either way. You'll grow out of it. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

I can appreciate it as funny even if it's a douchey thing to do. No need to insult me. - Lindsey is Fierce!

Poor guys! - Head Ov Metal

The low-lifes that did this need to be made an example of. This is totally ridiculous and way out of hand. This nonsense is a total waste of bandwidth and a dishonor to the human race. - J. D. Ebberly

Icky--the only word for it. - Jory Des Jardins

I'm with Lindsey. - Jim Hearts FF

50hz

Ich hab Robert ja meinen Einstieg in die Bloggerei zu verdanken, aber jetzt macht er sich zum Vollhorst.

January 6 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Markus Merz and Nico Lumma liked this

Benedikt Koehler

Twitter Starter-Kit: Die zehn wichtigsten Twitterstreams - http://blog.metaroll.de/2008...

December 30 from viralmythen - Comment - Like - Share

sozlog and Nico Lumma liked this

Fabian Mohr

will answer all remaining private email from 2008... today. that is, garden party invitations.. and a few more.

December 26 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Nico Lumma liked this

50hz

Was für ein Scheiß. Dann kann die Zersiedlungsprämie ja fröhlich Urständ feiern: http://www.spiegel.de/wirtsch... #pendlerpauschale

December 9, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Marcel Weiß and Nico Lumma liked this

"Zersiedlungsprämie" :D sehr gut - Marcel Weiß

Benedikt Koehler

What is Social Media? A not so critical review of concepts and definitions - http://blog.metaroll.com/2008...

November 14, 2008 from life under electronic... - Comment - Like - Share

Jens Christian Freund, doreen butze, embee and Nico Lumma liked this

I found some more definitions. Now there are 23 ways to say social media ;-) - Benedikt Koehler

l0ckergn0me

Think LEGO - http://geeks.pirillo.com/photo...

October 20, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Ross Miller, Josh Jenkins, Nico Lumma and 9 other people liked this

Robert Scoble

FriendFeed is NOT taking off ... why? (I gave some reasons over on this blog post but wonder why we aren't seeing a LOT more FF activity?) - http://www.profy.com/2008...

June 4, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

siavash, ※Fu※, edythe and 41 other people liked this

I've been showing FriendFeed to tons of people and most try it out for a few minutes and then leave. It's clear to me it's not really taking off the way, say, Twitter did. I am getting pretty consistent feedback from people who say they don't see the value in it -- I left my ideas of how to get FriendFeed participation to go to a new level on the post I linked to on this cluster here. How about you? - Robert Scoble

102 more comments

no great desktop client; too complex, particularly compared to twitter; web ui sucks - wlai

wlai: yeah, the desktop client is tough, because of the two-level commenting system here. But if they implemented XMPP that'd solve that pretty quickly. - Robert Scoble

does everything come down to being as banally simple as Twitter? - Ivan Pope from twhirl

I see that a little different. Sure it needs XMPP integrated, and a nice desktop client for mac may be a good thing. But there is already twhirl and alert thingy. I like Friendfeed more and more. For me, it already took off. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

@wlai i'm using MySocial 24x7 Sidebar. a pretty good firefox extension, but still not as convenient as Twitter IM bot. - Jansen Lu

Why hasn't FF added any new feeds in several weeks? There are plenty of sites they could add. - Elliott Plack

Has Robert found a new toy? Is it Plurk? ZubHub or whatever? lol - Aviv

I made FF my home page but still struggling with it. I could just about keep up with Twitter but on here I get to see what the friends of my friends say on a tricky to navigate webpage. It's too time consuming for people that have normal jobs (no Robert, you job is not an average normal job). - Gerard Vanschip-Miyama

No, FF is THE toy for me right now. I just want to get other people in here and I'm getting a LOT of resistance when I sit down with people and watch what they want to do with it. - Robert Scoble

I think all these social apps need beter interop - Charles Rice from twhirl

Cyvros: links work in Google Talk. Just convert them to URLs. - Robert Scoble

Cyvros: mostly I want XMPP for listening to the system. Not for posting. - Robert Scoble

The value in FF is the potential of personal relevance and engaging in discussions without feeling overwhelmed or lost. Threads with 30+ comments are becoming more common these days, and so are 50+ likes. The thing is, Robert, I think super-users such as yourself with 2000+ friends expose individual entries to... too many people. Some complain that FF is fragmenting the conversation. Quite the contrary - I think FF will need to find ways to fragment it even more as it grows. - Aviv from ffreader

Cyvros That's the part I don't get. FF seems quite intuitive to me -- whereas other tools don't. That's not to say some refinement is not in order, mind you.... I need to give this some more thought (i.e. WHY is FF intuitive to me?). - Joanmarie

Robert, I actually like how Friend feed is right now and understand people's dislikes about it but I think it still has some potential that we will see in the coming months!! - Paul

Aviv: if you read my feedback, being able to hide completely some users is very important. The fact that I am able to "leak" into every conversation here is a huge negative for many people. - Robert Scoble

Aviv: not being able to control the noise (and the noisiest users) is a major reason why people get turned off when they first see FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

I think part of the reason is that FF is billed as a lifestream aggregator - for people to combine their blogs, twitter, delicious, shared items, etc into one stream. But the average person doesn't have that many feeds that they need a lifestream aggregator to manage, in my opinion. Also, the desktop client thing that you guys have mentioned is important as well. - Derrick Kwa

Well the obvious answer is that for people that aren't on Friendfeed the value isn't all that clear. I'm on Friendfeed and for me it's a tool. I don't like the aggregation aspects of it, but enjoy the discussions that float around. But the main issue with ANY aggregation service imo is that it lacks intent. To me it seems that unlike early-early adopters most people don't really have a need for a constant stream of unintentional shared content. Intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them - Alexander van Elsas

Paul: of course it has potential! Think about everything that's in the FriendFeed database that we can't yet pull out. Can I show you every item that has "n" likes? No. Can I show you every item that has "n" comments? No. Can I show you every item that has those things but with Robert Scoble hidden? No. So, YES there's HUGE potential locked up in the FF database that isn't yet available to us. - Robert Scoble

Robert, we are very much aware that FF needs a lot more work (it's a young product), and that not everyone "gets" it right away. We are definitely working on making it more intuitive and approachable. That said, the blog post you linked two was written last month, and activity on FF has grown about 3x in that time :) - Paul Buchheit

FF is very confusing - People who don't use many web2.0-sites can't profit from the unification of your web-presences. Using FF just for the coments is simply not appealing enough for the mainstream user. - sdfx

Alex: You are right the intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them but that makes it that much harder for the unintentional shared content. it makes FF just that more harder to understand. I know they are working on this little problem of FF, and I'm sure it will get fixed but I also know they will have to wait and see attitude!! - Paul

Paul: awesome. I think the reason you are getting this feedback is cause you've built something that has huge value already, it's just frustrating for those of us who are being FriendFeed advocates because we don't have the right tools to convert other people into FriendFeed lovers too. For those who don't know who Paul Buchheit is, he's one of the co-founders of FriendFeed. I'm happy it's growing, but it could grow a lot faster if we had a few more tools to show people the value locked up in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

I use them both (Twitter and FriendFeed), and I actually see more and more people (among my friends) that use FF a lot more than before. I posted some little stuff that I wish FF to add (here: http://friendfeed.com/e...) but those are really simple changes compared to what you ask for Robert :-) - Orli Yakuel

It's two things for me: 1, Twitter gives me all the info I have time to digest and 2, to make full use of FF I'll need to sub to all the people I'm linked to elsewhere. Did I mention time was an issue? - Rod Nicolson

While the room feature is a step in the right direction, we need to be able to create filters, that are accessible easily and are nondestructive to the main page. Perhaps Like Gmail, we could see all of the stuff at once, or just one filter at a time. In this case I'd have one for tech luminaries that post a lot, and people I really know. - Elliott Plack

FF is a great way of aggregating al my feeds, and I love it for that. If all my friends were on it rather than just Facebook, then they'd find out more about me, because I don't just post to Facebook. Why should they have to get a signon and subscribe to a dozen different services just because that's how I chose to publish my content? - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

What would be great desktop clients for FF? Thoughts? - Prakash

Robert, I read your comment on the blog. Re #2 and #5 - I agree that tracking topics is especially important on FF. I personally don't want IM notifications and all that - I want a pure FF interface play. I played with some ideas a while ago, see http://ffapps.com/stickys... - it doesn't take into consideration min number of likes or anything like that, but this is how I personally think FF should approach the need for real-time tracking. - Aviv from ffreader

Robert, it's all because of the user base and the ease of use, I'm guessing. I use Plaxo more than FF. And really, use Twitter more than 10x more than either of them. Not just for making updates, but to get updates from others, headline relays, etc. I use BrightKite and sometimes Twitterfone or Jott when I'm sending an update on the go, but they have value for me precisely because they all feed Twitter. Pownce arguably outperforms Twitter in terms of flexibility and reliability, but who uses that much? - mark zero (Jason)

@aviv, is this thing works? http://ffreader.com/ or just for you because you built it? - Orli Yakuel

The comments by Cyndy Aleo-Carreira are pretty apt actually; it is actually irritating to see information repeated; i don't like the reordering either; and discussions stripped from the blogs onto itself is understandably annoying to several people. - Parth Awasthi

Since it is a lifestreaming application I believe most people use FriendFeed as a secondary application to Twitter. Also I think it would do alot better if the FriendFeed-is-Clunky-on-Twhirl issue would be fixed. For example, half way through writing those two sentences Twhirl updated the FF stream and everything I typed was lost. I almost said screw it and just didn't comment, but... more... - william douglas watson from twhirl

FF is my all-in-one Web 2.0 Solution and there are enough excellent desktop clients - FF is my new center to the world! ;-) - Dieter Schwarz from Alert Thingy

Orli - it does and is currently being tested before ship day. - Aviv from ffreader

The complaints that FF is too complicated are perfectly valid for a lot of people. Something like FF is geared towards the early adopter, those already on a mutlitude of other services and are looking to pull it all together in to one melting pot with comments. Joe Public doesn't work, think or behave like this - many just want a simple messaging system which is why Twitter clicks and... more... - Colin Walker

Aviv, will be really glad to test it! Robert, take a look at this: http://ffreader.com/ - Orli Yakuel

Scoble: I've not built this, this is not Paul Bucheit. I just know that some of this is coming it has to because if it didn't this wouldn't grow. I also know that people will have there problems just like DIGG people didn't like Digg because it had it's own little problem and you see how many flock to be over there!! - Paul

having fun rather than using social networking as a serious discussion tool. We need a change of mindset or to just accept that fact that different services will attract different people and ne'er the twain shall meet. A service has to identify its target audience and then fully understand it, providing those features that audience demands rather than trying to convince those outside of... more... - Colin Walker

Orli: I can't log into ffreader.com. I'm using Firefox 3.0 RC1. - Robert Scoble

It's like I'm living in a bizarro universe here. FF is dead simple to me - and was right off the bat. You add services, you add friends and then watch and participate. Pretty easy to me. I also don't know why people bring up twitter all the time when talking about FF. I don't see them as remotely similar or in any kind of competition. They're two apps that have a similar "audience" but that's it. Two different purposes and needs fulfilled. I'm baffled by some of the responses here. - Vince DeGeorge

Cyvros/fyc: I am sure they are going to fix the commenting problem. They probably hear about that everyday they check there emails or watch the FF scroll up and down. I also know that the fixed width is not so bad once you understand that it's to show a comment or a link!! I understand how frustrating it can be and can't wait for the changes that are inevitable because without Change there is no community!! - Paul

Vince: Twitter and FriendFeed are joined at the hip for me. I see them as different things, too, but I'd like to see FriendFeed adopt a few of the things that Twitter showed the world first. IM integration for one. Track for two. SMS capability for three (er, and a mobile client). - Robert Scoble

Vince: I say you've hit the nail on it's head with Twitter and FF, You can't possibly do this type of commenting and discussion with Twitter!! Twitter only allows 150 characters!! - Paul

robert, FF is growing. it's growth in the past couple weeks is outstanding. you aren't going to get everyone to use it though. and you really should stop comparing it to twitter. because it's fundamentally different. twitter is a microblogging service. it's where we go to post things that are quick, easy, and brief. FF is a social media aggregation (and hopefully re-aggregation) service. they are both important tools and their growth should happen together. and that's happening. be patient and positive. - Fred Wilson

FriendFeed needs a better commenting system ie Disqus. I have to confess I joined and then didn't use it for a while. Now I am totally hooked. I think some people try it and leave before they truly understand it. It's up to us to convince everyone to stay. - Michael McGimpsey

@vdegeorge I totally agree. I found FF completely simple to set up. I just keep adding my feeds until I run out, and give people my FF URL. They don't even have to actually subscribe if they don't want to. It's perfect. Of course, Twitter updates go into it, so they don't need to go to Twitter to see them, or Facebook, or Flickr, or my blog. In fact, I'm not even that bothered about the conversation functionality, which does mess the homepage up a bit, I just want to publish my content so people can see it. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

This is in fact strange; I am not a twitter user, but I am a FriendFeed user. I really like FriendFeed far better then Twitter. And the community part here in FriendFeed is what makes me coming back and check out what is going on. Twitter has too much noise for me... - Joao

Fred Wilson: patience? Patience? Heheh. Good point. We all want it and we want it now. I don't see where I'm comparing it to Twitter, although, to tell you the truth, if it added a few things it could get me to switch even more of my usage away from Twitter. Twitter is doing that on its own, though, by going down so often. I know FriendFeed wants to be different than Twitter, but it has enough similarities that it begs for a few more. - Robert Scoble

Part of the thing with whether FF will take off mainstream or not is based on how people want to use it. I think the discussion thing that we're all into here is a mainly geeky tech-person thing to be into (and proud of it!) but my Mom isn't going to bother. However, if like me you're mainly bothered about your friends seeing your new Flickr photos even though they're not personally on Flickr, then it's got mainstream appeal. I mean, people don't even have to actually subscribe to FF to see my updates. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

Robert - you keep talking about how you need and like the noise. I guess some people prefer the signal... - jeremy ettinghausen

jeremy: you missunderstand what I'm saying. It's pretty clear you aren't reading what I'm saying. +I+ don't mind the noise. I can deal quite well with FriendFeed how it is. That's not the point. The point is that I'm trying to get other people into FriendFeed. They DO NOT deal with noise as well as I do. They want far better tools to remove noise (remove Scoble is just one of those tools). I want more people here, to get even more noise, but to do that we've gotta have better tools. The tools are for THEM. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy: That's a good point. The feeds are the signal (Flickr, Twitter etc) and the FF comments are the noise, as far as I'm concerned. However the comments are the feedback, so depending on your point of view, they're arguably more interesting to the originator. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

Fred Wilson: where in this thread did I compare FriendFeed to Twitter. I went back and reread everything I've written about this and I don't get why you are saying I'm doing that? Just because I want IM/XMPP? Is that a Twitter exclusive feature that no other "live web" service should have? - Robert Scoble

Neil: to me comments (and likes, which are just really a different kind of comment) are the signal that the original post or tweet or photo, etc isn't noise and is worth paying attention to. - Robert Scoble

robert, i am not talking about this thread, i, like many people, follow what you say and do. it's the entirety of your stance on FF and Twitter that I am talking about. but that's not really the point i am making. FF is an amazing service. so is Twitter. and i believe they are both going to get better and better, and easier and easier to use. - Fred Wilson

I think a bare-bones FF platform might serve it better in the long-run, since it will undoubtedly result in a bunch of third-party products and add-ons that enhance (or even finally enable) the FF experience for specific audiences or purposes (meme-tracking, desktop photo browsers, etc.). Either way, I think right now we're not seeing much innovation from third-parties beyond basic FF... more... - Aviv from ffreader

one of the lessons from Twitter and other services we invest in is if you let the activity happen outside of the web service (via the API and other things), you actually get more users back to the web service itself. so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus (when the discussion is about a blog post i wrote). if that happens, then FF becomes even more relevant, more important, more useful, and more used. - Fred Wilson

Scoble: Which is a perfect illustration of my point - people want different things out of FF, and we all have our own terminology. For you "noise" means something different to me. Of course, comments on my own FF entries isn't noise, it's "feedback", and that's different :). Anyway, when it comes to "FF isn't taking off", I think it could be a target market issue. I'd say FF has more... more... - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

I'm going out on a limb here - the reason people don't understand FF is because no-one has really defined it yet. Egs: If I saw it for the first time and saw a thread with 50 replies, I'd think it was like a forum. If I only saw lists of feeds I could subscribe to, I'd see an aggregator or feedreader. Seeing an item rise to top when comments were left, I'd think it was like digg, etc. I'd want to know the implications and results of using it in order to be more interested. - Paul Short

>>For you "noise" means something different to me. Here's a definition: NOISE: you talking about lunch. SIGNAL: me talking about lunch. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

>>so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus. Fred: I am totally in agreement here. It's one reason why I put the FriendFeed widget on my own blog (and am evaluating other schemes to integrate comments here and there). - Robert Scoble

ORL? http://www.alexa.com/data... - Duncan Riley

@Paul Short - good point. Is FF trying to be too many things to too many people and is this why it doesn't appeal? The information on the About page is minimal and, whilst it conveys what FF is about at its core level, the way the service moves on is determined by the way it is used. I have no doubt that FF would be a completely different animal if it were populated by a different set of people rather than the usual suspects we find here. - Colin Walker

Colin: We agree. I still maintain it's a target audience issue. The people using it will make it what it is. This is exactly what happened to Twitter. It started as "answering one simple question: 'what are you doing?'" and turned into a messaging/communication system by virtue of the way people used it. The same will happen to FF over time. I'm using it in a totally different way to... more... - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

dying already? I thought it will get the necessary traction and kill socialthing before it gets launched. - Palin Ningthoujam

Palin: I'm not using Socialthing, am I? :-) - Robert Scoble

SocialThing is pretty much dead in the water anyway. Scaling back on services supported, too long in closed beta, not supporting the most popular web browser - all bad decisions which caused it to get left behind. - Colin Walker

As compared to Twitter, I get to see more meaningful conversations here in FF (no word limit.. yay!). It's more difficult to follow conversations in Twitter too even with those 3rd party tools like: Quotably etc, and I think I get to socialise with more people on FF. But I agree that it's difficult to sell the concept of FF to friends.. It's either you get it, or not. - Winston Teo

@Winston, there is a word limit it's just significantly higher that's all. - Colin Walker

@scoble: In http://secondbrain.com we have a different approach to aggregation.We organize all the content into personal content libraries where it can be browsed by tags and remixed into collections among other things. - Lars Teigen

@Scoble - I *totally* agree with you. FriendFeed adoption rate is impacted by lack of end-user tools to manage the frenzy of information aggregated in FF. For example, when I scrolled down to "catch up" this morning, I was notice this 1 post had over 97 comments! Holy crap that's way too much information. *Sigh*. This application is geared towards users that have a high capacity for information and can navigate a complex weave of conversations, posts, photos, blogs & other social media widget outputs! - Susan Beebe

I think FF only starts making sense once you get a nice, active network of friends. It's the conversation that makes FF interesting to me. Without it I might not be here. - Benjamin Golub

Susan: You're totally right, unless it's not the comments you want. If you just want to use FF as a content aggregation tool though, you lose the "noise" that is the comments. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

The Comments is my *favorite* feature! but this is where most users would give me the deer-in-the-headlights look and close the application - Susan Beebe

Susan: Which goes back to my point (buried in the previous comments :)) that it depends on what people want it for. People who glaze over at the comments might not want it for that. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl

In my opinion, FF needs to focus on the Feed. Think of the current web UI as a "default" presentation of the Feed that underlies it. This means, make the API the most capable API possible; even at the expense of the UI. Things like import, integration, automatic creation of Imaginary Friends, etc. *Other* people will innovate on the UI, if the API is at least as capable as friendfeed.com is. When I import a new service, I would like to carry my network of friends from that service into FF, creating... - Kenneth LeFebvre

...Imaginary Friends as necessary, to keep my network complete. Give me the ability to merge Imaginary Friends, so I can manually make the connections across networks. Give me two-way participation from FF back to all those other networks, and I will use FF as my client for everything. ...just my 2¢... :) - Kenneth LeFebvre

Neil - true. Need a way to "hide" comments as well perhaps for those users who don't want to see them. I will *not* be in that use case! ;-) - Susan Beebe

At the risk of repeating: I think that FriendFeed is one of those tools designed for Mavens, Connectors, and Salespeople (i.e. Tipping Point concepts). Gather and discuss info, form opinions and ideas, crystallize thinking. Is it the best tool for broadcasting back out to the world? Don't know, maybe that's where Twitter/Pownce/Jaiku belong. - Mark Dykeman

@Paul B It was written last month, but the increase in traffic over that month has made the points I made in my post even more obvious. More activity doesn't fix the problems; it only makes them more apparent. It's the main reason why I don't follow Robert, but pick him up on occasion as FOAF. He shares something. Then odds are Louis shares it, or Duncan shares it. Then Corvida shares it and Diggs it. Sarah Perez shares it. Then maybe Steven Hodson shares it. - Cyndy

taking off with early early adopters or early adopters? This seems a tad premature. Twitter is 2 years old...it didn't take off until..what.. a year into it? year and a half? a month ago? - Bwana ☠

@Bwana Twitter is 2 years old, uses a much less "early adopter" mentality for its premise (messaging vs. aggregating), and, well, isn't doing so hot at the limited amount of "taking off" that it's doing. - Cyndy

Is it just me is or are aggregators like FF not going far enough in aggregating? I want to comment to a blog post fed here and have the comment go back on the blog. I want to frigging import my twitter followers/ees into friendfeed without manually creating an imaginary friend for each one that isn't on FF yet. I want to go to one place and not have to worry that i'm missing some part of a conversation. FF is aggregating, it's more of a window on different pieces of different fractured conversations. - S. Charles Balazs

Being in the minority (e.g. not in the Internet / Web industries or one who's presence is across a multitude of services), I came to FF due to the aggregation aspect. I don't have much to aggregate (I only have three services connected), but I totally grooved on the commenting and interaction aspect of the service. I found FF to be quite intuitive and the sharing of so many "tidbits"... more... - JA Castillo

@Bwana - I was just thinking the same thing. @Robert - Not taking off the way Twitter did? Twitter really just hit its inflection point in March of this year. Let's look at where Twitter was at this time in its life to get an apples-to-apples comparison. - Hutch Carpenter

Clay Shirky nails it in the WSJ: "It’s almost universally the case with social software that the software that launches with the fewest features is the stuff that takes off...nobody wants a door with 37 handles. Twitter has six features, and it launched with only one. A brutally simple mental model of the software that’s shared by all users turns out to be a better predictor of adoption...than a completely crazy collection of features that ends up being slightly different for every user." - Michael Nielsen

Michael- but by that logic FriendFeed should be huge and Facebook should've flopped... - Mike

wow this entry has ganied a lot of comments- 90++ , a harvest of users thoughts for FF :)- - Peter Dawson

Have to agree with Hutch. It took Twitter a year to get beyond the techies and early adopters. A couple of weeks in the bigger spotlight doesn't determine whether FriendFeed will make it or break it. Give it a chance. I'm placing my chips on it. - Robert Sanzalone

Reasons -- too much info flowing in; hard to figure out. Twitter is about as basic as it gets. The Ipod of IM. - Charles Barthold

Mike - Everyone I know described Facebook the same way early on: "It's a way of connecting and keeping up with your friends". I've never heard two people give the same explanation for FF. "It's like Twitter, but with longer tweets". "It's like Twitter, but with other stuff." "No, it's an aggregator for information!" There's no shared mental model, and so the network effects are much weaker than Facebook. - Michael Nielsen

FF's complexity (which is really elegant simplicity to those who get it) is its greatest asset. FF exposes the Z axis in an otherwise XY web. If that were represented visually on FF (as a toggle?), more noobs would adopt - more topics would appear, more friends, more feeds, more goodness. - Noah Carter

FF doesn't seem complex to me, but it does take a bit of time at first to see what one can get out of it. FF seems to be different things to different people - but that's one of the things I like about it. It's useful in more than one way. Aside from the echo effect, the posted link doesn't seem to have much in the way of good criticism. People keep complaining about noise; that's what the hide feature is for. - Tanath

I fully admit that I tried out FriendFeed for a day and quit. It initially wasn't easy for me to pick it up. But, I kept hearing about it on Twitter and gave it another try. I now use FriendFeed much more than Twitter. - Patrick

The thing with Twitter is that peeps can just post and answer any echoes back, it's low intensity. FF however, requires the user to be a bit more ballsy, if you like. To get the most out of it, you have to be prepared to chime in, post and have a debate or convo with a multitude of people you've almost never met. The two are very different. - Sally Church

I like Sally's thinking. I've often thought Twitter is for all people comfortable with chatting/instant messaging. Friendfeed seems geared more towards the type of people who'd post in forums or leave comments on blogs (a smaller group). However, I don't really have a sense for what % of FriendFeed users are voyeurs or what its potential is with people who'd like to view it all (even the conversation threads) without participating. - Robert Seidman

@Parth Thank you, and I agree. Love that it's generated 100 comments, though. ;) @Mark Dykeman I think you have the core demographic nailed there. @Robert I love forums, but forums are WAY more organized and have nowhere near the duplication as FF does. - Cyndy

Feature request - Place a # next to each comment so I can refer back to # x comment above. This is a standard feature on many blogs' comments. This post with over 100 comments in reply is a perfect use case to justify this feature!! - Susan Beebe

Susan: that's called anchors :) http://www.w3.org/TR... - directeur

Main reason I use it: condensing all my feeds into one spot, both those I read and those I produce. Main gripe: no way to quickly highlight what I haven't seen. - xero

Another feature request - Let me subscript my friend's tweet only(not including flickr etc). This can be done by `Imaginary friend` but it would be more useful with one-click feature. - satoko

Louis Gray

Yes, FriendFeed Will Be Mainstream (by 2018) and Here’s Why - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...

May 20, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

Roger Kondrat, Maryam Ardakani, Sarah Perez and 22 other people liked this

10 years? In Internet time that's like 100... Technology changes accelerate exponentially. In 10 years the internet itself and the way we access/interact with it won't be anything like it is today. Will FriendFeed be around then? I'm guessing probably not... it will have morphed or been replaced by something more useful several times by then. I don't think we have to worry about it too much, just hang on for the wild ride. - Her Lindsay-ness

9 more comments

2018??! LOL thats hilarious, thats like being back in 1997 and saying fellas, Friendster will rule this galaxy in 2008! (course I dont even know when friendster actually hit the web) - Dan Rockwell from twhirl

Does it really matter? I mean, no one is going to take away FriendFeed if it doesn't "go mainstream" by X date. FF is just 5 (or 6?) people who are servign 100k others. Not a bad ratio - and we FF highly value the service. I'm sure things will keep getting better and better. - Mike Reynolds

10 years is certainly pushing it BIG TIME. If it isn't in 2-3 years, it won't happen at all. - Andrew Dobrow

Many of you have very unrealistic expectations. NOTHING reaches > 50% of the population in 2-3 years. Google may have 68% of searches, but that is certainly from less than 50% of the population (more active searchers are more likely to use Google), and that has taken 10 years and is one of the biggest successes ever. - Paul Buchheit

+1 Like for Paul's comment. Good businesses take time to grow. Online and social makes it happen faster, but it takes time nonetheless. "Internet time" means changes can come along quickly. But it doesn't describe mainstream adoption. - Hutch Carpenter

Let's put things in perspective. Flickr is mainstream right? They have 1.7% of internet traffic (Alexa), a very far cry from the Facebook numbers. But, people would also consider Flickr to be a success. - Rob Diana

@Jason - That is why I brought up Flickr. They changed the idea of sharing pictures. There were several lifestreaming services launched at the same time, but there are only a few with traffic. The bigger question is whether lifestreaming catches on with the masses. - Rob Diana

@Jason - Oh, ok. I was never comparing them so I did not get what you were saying. Forgot they were in the chart in the article. - Rob Diana

@Jason - a couple things. 50% adoption is the Wikipedia definition of mainstream. I think 50% is too high. If 1 out of 3 people use something, I'd say that's pretty mainstream. I also don't compare FriendFeed to the automobile or the Internet directly in terms of utility. Only for comparison in terms of adoption cycles. I'd love a chart that shows MyYahoo, Google search, AOL, etc. Haven't seen that. - Hutch Carpenter

@Rob, I don't think Flickr is designed for lifestreaming, even though a lot of early-adopter types use it that way. It's designed for photography enthusiasts to show off, and for web surfers to search for interesting photos taken by strangers. They're doing extremely well in that niche. Sharing your life using photos calls for something different. I've made OurDoings for that purpose and think it works very well. The problem I'm finding is that the early adopter phase is not optional. - Bruce Lewis

Robert Scoble

Why Twitter will be bigger than Facebook - http://entrecard.com/blog...

April 6, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

Neil Vidyarthi, Mike Reynolds, Christopher Yeo and 11 other people liked this

If you think of the sheer number of useful twitter apps out there in the cloud, it won't take long before they become more seamless. Do you think that Data Portability will become a reality? - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

3 more comments

"(Twitter) It’s where you meet new people!". I am relatively new to Twitter. I have not yet figured out how exactly you easily meet new people. Probably friend feed is better for that? - Davide D'Incau

I think Friendfeed provides a much better center for comments, feedback and general interaction with new people. I find twitter just too difficult to follow in terms of the conversation threads. IMHO Twitter is a great micro blog tool for the A-list and a great tool for the average joe to throw stuff out to a small group of friends. I'm dreaming of the day when we have access to everyone's centralized feeds and can comment and interact from within one platform. Friendfeed is moving us a step closer. - Phil Ashman

@Phil - amen. - Jeremy Toeman

Phil, I agree too. - Alejandro

Nico Lumma › Likes