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The regator team is now in posession of two crystal skulls of vodka signed by Dan Aykroyd bought from Dan Aykroyd. We could not make this up
Joe Silence is not Santa, Yolanda, Alex Scoble and Laura B. liked this
twitpic is on the way
- Scott Lockhart
photographic evidence: http://yfrog.com/0b1j9j
- Scott Lockhart
RSSCloud meetup with lots of devs including @photomatt and @davewiner :
Stephen Edgar, Carlos Duarte, Hutch Carpenter and 45 other people liked this
I love small groups of developers who are working together to make the web better like this meeting of a bunch of developers. At top is Matt Mullenweg and Dave Winer. This is happening now at Berkeley. Will report more later.
- Robert Scoble
from email
Dude, you wouldn't have to tell us where this was if you included a map. If you've lost the address, find it again at https://ourdoings.com/roberts...
- Bruce Lewis
Looks geeky.
- Tim
People flew here from Salt Lake and Portland to be here.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bruce: yup, will have to get that again.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, who from Salt Lake is there out of curiosity?
- Jesse Stay
One thing, though. I actually like the bigger photo and no map.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jesse: I missed his name, will get it later.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You guys should stream next time so the rest of us in Salt Lake can see it. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Someone needs to get dave to change that subscribe protocol to remove the IP address requirement.
- Matt Mastracci
Matt, thanks!
- Jesse Stay
Can we participate from this FF thread? Someone in the meeting bring that up? :)
- Matt Mastracci
I would have liked to be there... hang on.. I am..
- Tyson
I'm not seeing any video - just audio
- Jesse Stay
There's no video
- Matt Mastracci
I'm hoping someone in the meeting picks this up so we can submit remote points for discussion
- Matt Mastracci
Would love to hear if anyone from this working group has seen this counterpoint and what their take is: http://techbrew.net/article...
- Bill Grant
Not sure why the URL you sent on ustream was redacted, Matt :)
- Bill Grant
No video, and Scoble's there? Is everything okay Robert? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
redacted?
- Matt Mastracci
Yeah, it comes up as <URL Removed>. I guess UStream blocks URLs.
- Mark Trapp
crap
- Matt Mastracci
Yeah, I hate that
- Jesse Stay
over the chat area - a moderator or the host may allow links. see the gear widget just above the send chat message.
- Courtney Engle
It isn't that interesting yet. Plus I only have my iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert - there is just sound ...pls open the camera as well
- Johni Fisher
Robert only has his iPhone, but more importantly who is tapping on the mic there!
- Bill Grant
I think someone is tapping their foot on the table. :)
- Matt Mastracci
Matt is streaming it from his laptop. See the chat stream there.
- Courtney Engle
Yap thx
- Johni Fisher
I am not near Matt! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
is someone recording this on a device where it's away from the table-tapping and keyboard-typing?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Matt's listening to IRC - no need to ask anyone here
- Jesse Stay
How many different edge protocols are there? Twitter, Skype, XMPP, etc. I would prefer one based on HTTP
- Thomas Beutel
OMB
- Jesse Stay
There's also an XMPP HTTP transport.. looking for the reference
- Matt Mastracci
Or is OMB an edge protocol?
- Jesse Stay
I believe Twitter uses HTTP polling from the client and rate limits it to 150 requests per minute
- Thomas Beutel
Can someone there please tell them they need to fix the IP issue (edit - I see Matt has already mentioned it)
- Nick Lothian
My 2 questions still are 1) How do we make it easy to run inside a firewall and 2) Can servers really scale, especially when I would suspect the potential for "spanning clients"
- Bill Grant
XMPP BOSH: http://xmpp.org/extensi...
- Matt Mastracci
Nick, yeah, it came up early in the meeting (on the audio)
- Matt Mastracci
that should have been "spamming clients"
- Bill Grant
Although noone brought up the specific "datacenter" issue... @glenc also mentioned it was an issue for Yahoo!
- Matt Mastracci
There's also a lack of subscriber verification that needs to be brought up.. all you need to do is get someone to say 200 OK to this protocol and they'll get spammed for 25 hours.
- Matt Mastracci
ouch
- Bill Grant
I must be old fashioned but as a client I prefer asking information and getting it, rather than for the potential of servers all over looking for me
- Bill Grant
WP rssCloud had an issue in 0.2 where you could specify a path of "@otherserver.com/path" and it would subscribe that other server. (fixed in 0.3)
- Matt Mastracci
Someone ask about integrating activitystrea.ms into rssCloud
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - your short domain got redacted too ;)
- Matt Mastracci
Me! :)
- Matt Mastracci
*raising hand*
- Matt Mastracci
Matt, the activitystrea.ms?
- Jesse Stay
Ustream needs to fix that, or we're just not going to post over there
- Jesse Stay
PSHB doesn't have the last mile problem to the same extent as rssCloud, because you can choose IP _AND_ Port to subscribe, which will work better for NAT traversal.
- Nick Lothian
Robert, that's Joseph Scott from Salt Lake City - tell him hi for me
- Jesse Stay
I was trying to post this over on ustream: http://pubsubhubbub-xmpp.appspot.com/ -- that's my last-mile support for pubsubhubbub
- Matt Mastracci
what is Facebook using for their updates? or are clients like Seesmic just polling?
- Thomas Beutel
Jesse - I've had it work before. But even a basic search online isn't allowing links through. Normally moderators/admins have permissions under that widget by the send button in Ustream. They changed the defaults about a month ago - and nothing shows under the settings.
- Courtney Engle
Courtney, yeah, it's a pain in the neck - I've had the same problems with shows I've administered
- Jesse Stay
I'd like to hear more about naming (.tel?). I was also thinking about reverse lookups, i.e. resolve the feed from the identifier and vice-versa (for the benefit of the cloud and feeds it produces for indexers etc)?
- Andy Chantrill
Dave is mistaken. There's this in Atom: <link rel="hub" href="http://myhub.example.com/endpoin..." />
- Matt Mastracci
If that doesn't work, use this: <link rel="rsscloud" href="http://myhub.example.com/endpoin..." />
- Matt Mastracci
discovery for atom is very easy ... - I see Matt M. just posted the info
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Why are they discussing a new namespace? It's already supported.
- Matt Mastracci
Maybe not now, but I'd really love to see some discussion on activitystrea.ms - if you want Facebook or MySpace that's the way to get them in
- Jesse Stay
See http://pubsubhubbub.googlecode.com/svn... for how PSHB does it. They just need to choose a different "rel" value.
- Nick Lothian
Jesse.. I think that would work as-is with rssCloud and PSHB, no?
- Matt Mastracci
@Jessy - activitystrea.ms or whatever will just work - it'll come though in the feed. There isn't really anything to discuss.
- Nick Lothian
[n/m... i was wrong, it should work as-is]
- Matt Mastracci
activitystrea.ms will work only if rsscloud has a way of learning what the payload body format is
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I noticed Feedburner hid the places they ping a few months before PSHB came through. Wondered why that was put threw a few pings into my WP sites manually
- Courtney Engle
Matt, the rel for both PSHB and rssCloud should be registred with the iana http://www.iana.org/assignm...
- directeur
I think the discussion here is almost just as interesting (and possibly more) than what's going on in the room. I wish we had more of them participating.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, it kinds of sucks that there's a wall between the two. Something to keep in mind for future meetings
- Matt Mastracci
BTW, Robert, Joseph Scott (the guy from SLC) is the guy that wrote the rssCloud Wordpress plugin. He works for Automattic.
- Jesse Stay
@bear - why do you say that? A rssCloud consumer just gets the whole feed. Obviously it needs to know what to do with it, but that's the case anyway.
- Nick Lothian
And aside, seriously PSHB > rssCloud for many reasons. I don't see a reason to create two "standards". I'd LOVE to understand why Wordpress opted for rssCloud.
- directeur
isn't activitystrea.ms format a different namespace than rss and/or atom?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good luck with Bluehost - I know people that work there and their service is horrible!
- Jesse Stay
Matt - a wide angle webcam would be spiffy for future meetings - or TalkShoe/BlogTalkRadio to just use audio only works well.
- Courtney Engle
nick - wait - so an rsscloud update is the whole feed?!? not just a single payload item of the latest history?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Nick, I don't think so, it just gets a notification, not the feed
- directeur
bear: rssCloud subscribers get a simple ping (POST url=blah) and are expected to scrape the whole feed themselves.
- Matt Mastracci
Matt - thanks for setting up ustream, good to listen in to this discussion...
- Bill Grant
rssCloud is a ping, and the client goes out and retrieves the whole feed I believe.
- Jesse Stay
That's the difference between PSHB
- Jesse Stay
It gets a notification, but then needs to go & retrieves the whole feed to do anything useful
- Nick Lothian
ah - so all this talk of distribution is just about spreading the word of the ping?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I'd love to hear more to come on buddypress coming along.
- Courtney Engle
doesn't PSHB do that? i thought it pinged the hubs and then the hubs ask for more info
- Bill Grant
bear, correct. PSHB actually optimizes distribution. rssCloud optimizes simple notification for standard full-fetch readers.
- Matt Mastracci
And that DOES count IMHO
- directeur
Bill, I believe the latest entry is included in the ping, so a retrieval by the client isn't necessary in PSHB
- Jesse Stay
@Bill, no PSHB distributes single posts as a payload.
- Nick Lothian
so this could be solved the way usenet handled it - flood-fill of the notification to "known" proxies
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Nick ahhh ok thanks for clarifying
- Bill Grant
@Nick when PSHB does that, that is from the publisher to the hub? or all the way to a single client?
- Bill Grant
I just asked Matt why he went with RSSCloud. He said "it seems like a good thing to do." he also said they will do PubSubHubub too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, thanks for asking that.
- Matt Mastracci
That makes sense - I would do both too if I were them. Let the aggregators decide.
- Jesse Stay
Bingo, competition is always a good thing.
- Jeremy Felt
It's a shame that the IP address endpoint question wasn't answered. That makes it a non-starter for Google, Yahoo and anyone else with a distributed datacenter.
- Matt Mastracci
When's the next meetup?
- Thomas Beutel
I'd love to also see more support towards OMB - I really like that protocol
- Jesse Stay
IP:port needs to be done via SRV records
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Bill Grant - it's only from the hub to the client. It retrieves the feed from the original server in the same way as rssCloud (ie, gets a ping, and then grabs the feed). However, you can chain PSHB Hub servers together, so only one needs to respond to the ping (not sure if rssCloud supports that or not?)
- Nick Lothian
just had a rush of ideas - man I need a day job that just lets me code on social web stuff.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Blogged my notes post-meeting here: http://grack.com/blog...
- Matt Mastracci
@matt - your blog post is almost the same as I was thinking. xmpp pubsub back-end with a PubSubHB and/or rssCloud front-end
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear, yeah. I implemented a gateway from Pubsubhubbub to XMPP this morning (last night?) as a proof of concept here: http://pubsubhubbub-xmpp.appspot.com/ It's unlikely you'd get that working in rssCloud because of the subscription API limitations, thought.
- Matt Mastracci
@bear SRV records for subscription endpoints? So if I'm plaggypig.tel, I could just set up a bunch of records for all the aggregators/services that I want to use, rather than the cloud assuming it should be the source of my request?
- Andy Chantrill
andy - I was mentioning SRV as the way to broadcast the XRDS or other list of endpoints on your service. This gives a way for people behind firewalls to advertise internal services. But I could also be completely not grok'ing how rsscloud info flows.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear Why use XRD documents when DNS is right there? $ dig rss.andy.tel NAPTR; I thought you meant using SRV records as well to define my subscription endpoints (I could have several).
- Andy Chantrill
andy - then it sounds like i'm making an assumption that isn't matching reality - I still haven't done a test implementation yet of rsscloud so apologies if i'm clouding the issue
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear - rssCloud and Pubsubhubbub are both based on opt-in (via HTTP POST) notifications that happen via HTTP POST whenever content is updated or changed. The publisher notifies the hub via HTTP whenever content changes, and the hub then notifies the subscribers.
- Matt Mastracci
For those who haven't seen it already, anybody who has read this far in the thread would probably be interested in http://friendfeed.com/feedtech :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
love to have this streamed in the future... we're really interested in seeing what rssCloud can do... for us and everyone
- Scott Lockhart
All I can say to you all is this, roll on Google Wave!
- Sandra Large
Anything planned for the UK ?
- Matthew Ogston
Just realized that the IP restriction thing means rssCloud can't work with virtual hosting (ie, anywhere more than one domain is hosted on a server). Found that out when trying to implement it. Yay.
- Nick Lothian
Great now I have many more questions than answers. Thanks for the conversation on the details of the distribution systems gents.
- Mark Essel
Re "One thing, though. I actually like the bigger photo and no map." -- I added a setting on the site integration page to make thumbnails be max FriendFeed size (height 175px). You can always turn off maps with phone options.
- Bruce Lewis
It just gets better: "In a post on the Inquisitor website (the group claiming responsibility for the attack)" http://www.dynamicbusiness.com/article...
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lol - you guys are hackers now eh?
- Jesse Stay
read your post mate and my god... what is our country coming to?
- Scott Lockhart
Still around courtesy of google cache: http://tinyurl.com/nvwwhg
- Lantrix
dipping my toe into the FF again... I feel like Veruca Salt
Haggis (Sean Loyless) and Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah liked this
Come into the light! :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
it's dangerous
- Scott Lockhart
I started a new Twitter account for a project and got a porn spam follower in less than 10 minutes. Nice work, spammers!
Kol Tregaskes, sirishkumar, zʍıɔ and 5 other people liked this
Hmm...now what type of project is this?
- Jesse Stay
It's related to an upcoming post.
- Louis Gray
sure... :-)
- Jesse Stay
enjoy spammers = =
- kang
a kind of pop porn !
- Desirade
they're efficient... if you think about it, they probably do better with new accounts as the new users don't know any better and might just follow them back. ugh
- Scott Lockhart
once I started a new twitter account contains sex in its screen name...I got 4 followers in less than three minutes
- kang
Ah... yes. Twitter. Down. Again. But I think this is the omelets being made. I for one welcome our egg breaking overlords and their uptime ambitions.
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Yes...that'd be me. LOL!
- Lisa Sullivan
Breathe deeply Lisa... it's going to OK. :)
- Jay Cuthrell
Thanks, Jay. I appreciate the medical attention! :-)
- Lisa Sullivan
I come from a long line of nurses in my family. Just doing what comes naturally.
- Jay Cuthrell
lovely.
- Scott Lockhart
I think Twitter if beefing up finally. Doing upgrades in a 24/7/365 expectation of uptime isn't easy but they are hovering at 99% now for the month of August http://www.pingdom.com/reports...
- Jay Cuthrell
So guys...those who got an iPhone 3GS and had an iPhone 3G before? Worth the upgrade?
Justin Luey, Susan Beebe, johnpiercy and 4 other people liked this
Sparky claims it is. Claims that it feels about twice as fast as the 3G as far as app launching and execution speeds go. You'll still be bottlenecked by AT&T's crap data network, though.
- Akiva Moskovitz
i guess i just find it strange i haven't heard rave reviews nor much excitement from people who have upgraded...I would have thought the improved camera and video would be enough...
- Zee.
I'm also wondering whether it's worth the upgrade...can already record video but would really appreciate a boost in speed
- Franz Sittampalam
from iPhone
yes
- Wayne Sutton
I dont have a 3GS but I dont think I'm going to spend extra on a few new features coming from the 3G
- Zach Cheatham
I like the better camera features & video, and more space for movies and music. Still trying to decide what to do with my old one. Compass: meh. Speed: I guess I don't notice that I'm not waiting on things much anymore :)
- LogEx
definetly worth it... it's like a upgrading to mac from windows :D
- Ozan Kilic
Definitely worth the upgrade. When they said the S was for speed they were not kidding. It is much, much, much faster in every way possible than the 3G. John Gruber likened the processor upgrade to going from a 486 to a Pentium back in the day. Throw in doubled up RAM and other improvements and the thing is just blazing.
- Patrick Jordan
Can't afford the upgrade but I think the coolest benefit would be the ability to use the AR apps. Unless I'm mistaken, they all depend on the compass.
- metalerik
on paper it seems like it due to memory and cpu. its simply faster and also have some cool xtra features. not worth the full price but seems worth the upgrade.
- ugurarcan
I'm getting one of each tomorrow via Fedex... I'll let you know!
- Alex Sauceda
Do it mate, you won't regret it. The speed bump is noticeable, the thing just works like you expect it to.
- Keith Bennett
Totally worth the upgrade price.
- Aaron Brethorst
I only wanted it for video
- orionstarr
from iPhone
It is soo worth it. The camera is nice, but the speed boost is the best.
- Hunt
I second Metalerik on the AR app testing. That's probably 1 of 3 reasons why I upgrade. I'll wait until I get a discount or God blesses me with one early on. No raves on my end either, but I haven't heard anything bad in the least. I think some of the actual new features that you notice, you don't need to use on a daily basis so there isn't much to rave about that you're constantly thinking about.
- Corvida
I'd love to upgrade but I'm too cheap to buy out my contract from O2, so I'm going to wait for the 4th gen next Summer. My iPhone 3G works well for me, so I'm content :)
- Brad Brooks
I'd say it is.. I just got the 3GS and it's really very quick and smooth. Add into that the video and you've got a great deal
- Scott Lockhart
Just get it. You won't be disappointed. I never let mine outta my hands. Except to sleep.
- johnpiercy
from iPhone
holding out for 4th gen
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
YES- Speed is definitely improved, as is battery life, photo quality; plus added voice and video recording features! Go for it - it's worth it!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Everyone upgrade, so I can have a better chance of getting a 3G secondhand without a contract :)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Hellz yeah. Speed + camera improvements rock.
- ronin
I have a 3G and I upgraded to the 3GS, and it was totally worth it. Way way faster, more stable on memory intensive apps, and the camera is awesome. I also love the voice control feature, which works perfect for me. Once I sell my old 3G, it will cover the cost of upgrading so it was a no brainer.
- Justin Luey
from FreshFeed
Worth it for me for the speed improvement and the voice control!
- Jim
I upgraded to 32GB 3G S for $299+ Tax sold the 16 GB 3 G for $330 in 1 hour on craigslist. Should have held out for more. I jailbroke and unlocked. Had 4 people wanting it before it was picked up! Speed and extra memory well worth it. I wish AT&T would let me upgrade my other 2 at that price, but I have to wait until May 2010?
- Stephan Romeo
@louisgray I'll try Regator (on iphone) for more "tell me what's hot" kind of blog read. (nothing can beat friendfeed yet. ^_^)
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:-)
- Scott Lockhart
from iPhone
Want the Blogosphere in your pocket? There’s an app for that too. It’s called Regator via SocialWayne - http://socialwayne.com/2009...
Daryl Hunt on FF, Jonathon, Baard @ Pixum and 3 other people liked this
I'm very much loving Regator. Woke up and opened it first...then went to my feeds. Regator's better and the sharing features are great. Hoping to see them implement more in future.
- Corvida
from Bookmarklet
Glad you're loving it! We've been getting a lot of really positive/useful feedback and as a result we've got some stuff in the works that should make the app even more fun and useful.
- Scott Lockhart
@louisgray how's lazyfeed compared to regator? or is it not possible to compare?
I just responded on that over network that starts with a T. Basically, I see that Lazyfeed is real-time blog discovery based on topics that you choose. Regator highlights the "best" of the blogosphere from select sources they choose, sorted by category.
- Louis Gray
Bryan, they have always been a Web site until their iPhone app debuted yesterday. You can find the Web equivalent here: http://www.regator.com
- Louis Gray
Louis: thanks for the heads up. Didn't know much about them besides the iphone app.
- Bryan Lee
Bryan - Regator also has blog discovery tools on regator.com similar to those on lazyfeed wherein you can add your interests and see a stream of all of them or individually within our curated group of blogs. We've had that feature since we launched, but honestly we haven't done a real good job of showing that or the other tools we have in MyRegator. We're in the midst of a complete site rebuild which will make our tools far more accessible and some new stuff which wil make 'em much more powerful and fun.
- Scott Lockhart
that all being said, Lazyfeed look like they are doing what they do quite well. The nice thing about this space is that people using these services like to go about things differently from one another and therefore different tools have different appeal.
- Scott Lockhart
Scott: Thanks for the info. I'll have to check you guys out.
- Bryan Lee
if you have any questions or feedback just let me know you can catch us on twitter @regator or give us a call on the Regator Batphone @ 404-939-7181. Cheers!
- Scott Lockhart
Facebook's Twitter-Killing iPhone App Revealed! (Screenshots) (AAPL) - http://www.businessinsider.com/screens...
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I don't really understand this mad love for the new FB iPhone app. I've seen Twitter killer, most useful app for the iPhone. It's an FB app. On the iPhone. How could that possibly kill Twitter?
- felix
They like over the top titles.
- Brandon Titus
I like how in that particular article the one actual argument they make to try and support their point is just layers of sleight of hand - where they say that Twitters one advantage is their 3rd party support (which is arguable in the first place) and then they twist that to apply only to the mobile experience. Lawl. I believe that during "Facebook's onslaught" there have also been one or maybe even two desktop apps and web services that have also helped with its success.
- felix
I was mostly just testing Regator sending to Facebook.
- Louis Gray
it works!!!
- Scott Lockhart
what we're seeing is that the regator app is seeding a lot of twitter conversation with people sharing a ton of posts. brilliant!
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and possibly some Friendfeed conversation as well :-)
- Scott Lockhart
wow - I didn't realize how many FF subscribers I have... I've been somewhat AWOL from FF since it threatened to suck every last ounce of productivity out of me. It's kind of nice to be back around...
Neal Jansons liked this
Welcome back. We never left.
- Louis Gray
Louis - I feel like a recovering alcoholic putting my first step inside a pub since going dry. Something in the back of my head saying danger danger danger! :-)
- Scott Lockhart
Scott singsa The Doors. bouncer reminded me harshly, "No Video" http://pixelpipe.com/item... #regator #karaoke
oh lord
- Scott Lockhart
@LivingWellDoc it was called Metalsome. @kimber_regator can you remind us where it was exactly?
it was at the 10 High!
- Scott Lockhart
Re: Mashable Regator Atlanta Mixer #mashlanta - http://blog.davemadethat.com/2009...
Roney Smith liked this
"That's awesome Scott. It was a huge success. Keep in touch mate. Cheers, Dave Poor spelling and extreme brevity brought to you by iPhone. www.davemadethat.com"
- DaveDelaney.ME
Ha! It was a great time! Really enjoyed your video... There's some great photos of you there, going online later today. Cheers mate!
- Scott Lockhart
Wow! Only 58 tickets remain for May 14th's @Mashable Mixer Atlanta with @regator (http://mashable.com/2009...)
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now only 50! :-)
- Scott Lockhart
Attention ATL / Southeast web addicts - Mashable/Regator Mixer in Atlanta, May 14th. Get your tickets now! http://www.regator.com/blog...
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Very cool!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina - you should come on down! all the cool kids will be there... and me.
- Scott Lockhart
I wish I could, but I think we might be booked that weekend... I'll have to check!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Compared to others, how skilled are you at reading people's nonverbal signals, unspoken emotions, and body language?
Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕, Micah Wittman, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah and 19 other people liked this
Not very. I'm very good at picking up on textual clues to sub-texts though, which is why I like IM and email so much.
- Sparky
I compare this to my gawd-awful gaydar. I'm terrible. Two guys could be making out and my mind goes to, "Maybe he's trying to help him find his gum with his tongue." But yeah, unless it's really obvious in the case of someone being uncomfortable or something, I'm deaf, dumb,and blind.
- Derrick
I am amazing at doing that, and I have amazing gaydar. =P
- Shevonne
Shevonne, we're putting it to the test when you roll out this way. :^)
- Derrick
Derrick, it's sweet you are so innocent. Also: I just lost my gum.
- Sparky
ditto, Shevonne. When I see gays and lesbians from my olden days (jr. high/high school) I ask, "So when did you finally come out?" They say, "FINALLY?! Did you know something I didn't?" o_O ummm...Yes.
- Anna Haro
@Anna - I know. There was a girl in my high school, and then I saw her last year. I knew she was a lesbian. I said to her, "What took you so long?"
- Shevonne
In general I am considered pretty talented at picking up on things. I knew my best friend was gay five years before he told me, I can always pick up on what my fiancee is feeling, etc.
- Nation Hahn
+++Sparky. I'm usually pretty good at it, but I generally don't let people on because they get freaked out when I can pretty much guess their focus/wants. They try to change it up to "trick" me as if I dredged up enough strength to care and stupidity ensues.
- Admiral Anika
Note to self: Get thee to Seattle ASAP.
- Derrick
I'm pretty good at it. Quite a difference between online texting and face to face. We miss a lot here. Talking on the phone is sort of halfway because you get voice inflection, timing (ie speed of talking/interrupting) and volume changes that are big parts of understanding the message.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
i'm actually pretty good at it, my gaydar with women tends to be off though, which can lead to some awkward situations lol i'm great with gay men though perhaps its the faghag in me on my straight side lol
- Cardeen Martinez
i'd give myself an A- or so..
- Anthony Citrano
If I'm paying attention, pretty well. I know when someone is uncomfortable, or upset when they say they're not. Some people are just really hard to read, though.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I suck at it.
- Eric P
Proficient
- Michael Fidler
A different spin: Is there a corelation between how effective you are as a verbal communicator and how well you are at reading the non-verbal conversation?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I hate having to talk in public, but do ok at it, I guess. I'd much rather write. That's where I really shine.
- Derrick
Maybe that's why you sometimes miss the non-verbal clues, Derrick. Either you don't have that as a part of your skill-set or you do but you don't practice it.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Completely inept.
- Alix Whitmire
I have a business partner who is superb --makes him a talented facilitator. Me not so good.
- Brian Sullivan
So long as it doesn't concern me, I have always been good at it. If I am in the equation... not so much
- Michael W. May
my subconscious mind doesn't do it at all, so I have had to learn to do it with my conscious mind, and if I am just an observer, I can tell you a lot about people
- RAPatton
In all things except for attraction, not too shabby.
- Steven Perez
Not so good.. a lot of times, I'm rather clueless.
- Dee S.
oddly I tend to be more conscious of my own body language then reading others, knowing what the signs are. Things like open palms, trying not to cross arms etc... Knowledge of the subliminal is an annoying, or perhaps dangerous thing.
- Duncan Riley
I'm with MWM. LOL @ Derrick, Sparky & the gum.
- Jeanine W.
pretty good that's why I get frustrated with online text communication as I would always prefer talking to someone in person. You only get 10% of what is really going on. Plus, it's easier to detect BS when you are looking someone in the eye...
- Scott Lockhart
I'm good with people from conservative US backgrounds, granola's and in general those I'm not in a relationship with. People of first gen asian and african decent I'm lost with. Yes body language differs that much between cultures, 3 years teaching ESL during college and I've figured that out.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
dam-ed good!
- Egyirba
I is USELESS!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
very good.... ;o) have to be ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Somewhat
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
as far as other's tell me : pretty good at it
- Olivier
Pretty good, I think. Probably cuz I don't like to talk much.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Pretty good. My gaydar is fairly accurate, too. The closer I am to someone, though, the harder it is for me to read them. Like I can't read the partner-in-crime at all. That might just be self-esteem, though. I don't WANT to know if he's in a bad mood because it could be Because Of Something I Did.
- Nine
Does getting slapped frequently correllate with inability to read body language?
- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
I'm pretty good I think.
- ♥patricia♥
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- LouCypher
from Bookmarklet
12.19cm :)
- Simon Wicks
11.01....I'm huge...oh wait that's cm nevermind :(
- jamar78
only 9.89 - and they are only centimeters . . .
- Chris Loft
14.98cm
- Mattb4rd
12.8 cm
- Tim Chemacki
subtle how they put the bird on the tip despite copious amounts of space available everywhere else :)
- vijay
Oh.......my.........goodness.
- Josh Haley
cool, i have an epenis. who needs a man.
- Carolyn Chan
LOL! @ Carolyn Chan :D
- vijay
I guess I have to buy a bigger mobile device to compensate
- adam garrett
mine is minuscule, but one of my girl friends has a %$&^ of over 400cm long… wait, that doesn't sound right.
- Vincent van Wylick
3.71 CM. Not so hot. :(
- Stephen
17.12cm
- Mo Kargas
20.59 centimeters
- Alix Whitmire
this had me laughing so hard for some reason
- Scott Lockhart
18.56cm. @BreakingNewsOn is HUGE! 129,780cm which is 51,094.488in or about .81 miles.
- Zach Flauaus
good lawd...
- .LAG liked that
Can't wait for the follow up to this concept.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
this is a funny way to represent twittercounter
- TrafficBug
anything is possible. like this app. #_#
- Yu-Jie Lin
How is it measured? :P
- Shankar Ganesh
At least I'm "bigger" than Paula Poundstone :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
23.19 cm (or 9 in), bigger then your average Twit.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
imagining the developer when he/she was seeking for an idea! :)) nice.
- Sepehr Lajevardi
They should make it darken up as it gets longer. Just a thought.
- Mattb4rd
So it's just like real life Ryo? JUST KIDDING :)
- Mattb4rd
13.11cm
- mjc
LOL
- Dread Pirate PJ
One word only. Name one of your weaknesses.
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Cigarettes
- Mike Fruchter
bandwidth
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Apple stores.
- Robert Scoble
Optimism
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Candy.
- Sprague D
surveys
- Kevin Johnson
FriendFeed :)
- Susan Beebe
Internet.
- Admiral Anika
Internet.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Procrastination
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brevity
- Ken Sheppardson
Caffeine.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
bullets
- Joe Pierce
Kryptonite
- Ken Sheppardson
Indecision
- Michael Hocter
gummy bears
- BEX
An inability to follow directions.
- Ken Sheppardson
Men.
- Derrick
wimminz
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Fries
- Michelle Martinez
Chocolate!
- Michelle Marie Miller
Strays
- adf
knee.
- vijay
Redheads.
- Steven Perez
procrasti-fukkin-ation
- JA Castillo
Naps
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
from fftogo
friendfeed
- Alex Scoble
B(o)(o)B's
- johnpiercy
BlackBerry.
- Zach Flauaus
men
- Erin @queenofspain
*fist bumps Erin*
- Derrick
*fist bumps Derrick*
- Erin @queenofspain
cake
- Sharon Barclay
from twhirl
invisibility
- alphaxion
Indecision
- Eric Logan
************
- Phil Essing
Moi -[
- Chris Loft
Cleavagefreckles
- Matthew DeVries
Candy
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Sugar
- JSNFLMNG
Morning
- Rodfather
rum
- Amber, Random Time Lord
My Kids
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Coffee
- AJ Batac
smoking
- chaz2b
Alcohol
- Mike Nayyar
kittens.
- LJF Wolffe
roses
- Jess
coffee
- Nathan Eckenrode
procrastination
- Egyirba
Chocolate
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Recliners
- Tom Landini
PCP
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
entropy
- Charles Ying
internet (& cookies)
- Sarah Perez
concrastination
- J.D. Deutschendorf
vodka
- Doug Schumacher
temper
- Helen Sventitsky
Regrets
- Mo Kargas
Kryptonite
- .LAG liked that
Chaucer
- Katy S
Stubbornness
- ♥patricia♥
Beauty
- imabonehead
carbohydrates
- Sharron Field
from twhirl
metal fatigue
- Sharron Field
from twhirl
<censored>
- Pete Delucchi
'Sorry: That was more then 1 word: I was using artistic licence.
- Sharron Field
from twhirl
Smoking
- Iván Abrego
Sleep.
- Chris Thomson
Internet
- Krishnamoorthy
Wang.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
strawberries
- Trish Haley
coffee
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Hips
- Chrimmus Tad
rationality
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
Rebels
- Jennifer Leggio
perfectionism
- Justin Korn
sugar
- Sprite
Trish
- Josh Haley
patience
- Joshua
bacon
- Duncan Riley
cupcakes
- ::Kristen::
indecision
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
Mac
- TheHenry
An inability to state things in one word. Word.
- Todd Hoff
Women
- Michael Fidler
from twhirl
women
- Andy Kruger
internet
- @baratunde
Priority
- Abdullah Cetin CAVDAR
Judge-y
- Lisa L. Seifert
Naturalbeauty
- Amani
legs
- Sean Oliver
Pretty Girls.
- Corvida
Albinos
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Girls
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Women
- Mick Adams
lazy
- Parth Awasthi
procrastination
- Herb Hernandez
Women.
- Robert Young
from twhirl
ice cream
- Kelly W.
oreos
- Rebecca MacKinnon
from twhirl
amnesia
- Burçak Çubukçu
trust
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
kindness
- Olivier
music
- Anton
Procrastination
- Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom
words
- Nine
coffee
- Tracy Benham
Sarcasm
- Christian (Simply X)
Emotivity
- Manuela
Perfectionism
- Daniel Bruce
metheworldness
- Smeerch
Modesty
- Karthick R
Honesty
- Palak Mathur
Women
- Outsanity
Topless-women
- Outsanity
Procastination
- Brian Sullivan
Chips
- Bryan R. Adams
Lazyness
- Chris Nixon
Time.
- Erin McMahon
from twhirl
Chocolate
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Procrastination
- Chieze Okoye
Thinking.
- Rui Pereira
cuddling, maybe? :P
- mjc
Naming things in one word
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Escapism
- Robert
Spellink
- Robert Hafer
I will name it "Susan"
- Scott Loganbill
Comma use
- Jenny Morman
presenting
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Tatsumakisenpuukyaku.
- Chieze Okoye
Patience.
- Surferbill
Toolazytocomment
- Gaby K. Slezák
women
- Angga Satria
polls ;-)
- Aaron deMello
Monkeys
- Davis Freeberg
Lactose
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
gadgets
- Brian Timm
Electronics
- David Cook
internet
- Bindu Reddy
Procrastination.
- Joey Gibson
Obsession
- Stan Scott
Dolls.
- Anthony Citrano
+5 Anthony.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Capitalization
- Scott Lockhart
Reading
- kamla bhatt
information
- Kevin Fox
Love.
- nakachi
connectivity
- Fa La La La Lindsay
patience
- Steve Lacey
Reliance.
- Louis Gray
suck
- j1m
Procrastination.
- Alexander Kucera
Shy.
- Kol Tregaskes
Piracy.
- bnoise
Distractions
- Mark Krynsky
Other
- C (dubya)
Sorry Mike ... Saw this Monday ... still workin' on it :)
- Charlie Anzman
Concentra... what was the question?
- Jorg Jansen
Thought For The Day: Your FriendFeed stream is like a garden. And just like having a garden, it must be constantly watered, prunned, weeded, cross-pollenated and generally cared for.
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Spend the time, and you will get marvelous flowers and stunning foliage. Just sitting back and letting it fend for itself? Don't expect the same result. A dead or weed filled garden is not the fault of the garden but he who tends it.
- Johnny Worthington
Nothing? Oh well...
- Johnny Worthington
that's too much work. I have a shitty green thumb.
- Pete Delucchi
Johnny, I really like the analogy. One of the reasons I think I've "taken" to FF is that it's really a curating project (see: http://www.cosmictap.com/friendf... ) and people dig good curation. It's not dissimilar from good gardening. :)
- Anthony Citrano
+1 Johnny.... it's twoo, it's twoo!
- .LAG liked that
ooh cross-pollinating sounds so kinky
- BEX
So err..explain the cross-pollinating
- Mo Kargas
Mo, I interact on your feed so you interact on mine...
- Johnny Worthington
This same thought applies to any social site. Johnny++
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
true... I don't get here enough as I kind of banned myself due to lack of productivity in other areas. These days it seems like I am looking over the neighbors fence when I do check in.
- Scott Lockhart
This same thought could be applied to most of life. Isn't it another way of saying something is worthwhile?
- Edward Zwart
Starting a company in Silicon Valley is Stupid | Penelope Trunk's Brazen Careerist - http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009...
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There is no way at all I'd be able to start SocialToo with a family of 4 kids and a wife in Silicon Valley. Her tips are right-on!
- Jesse Stay
I do note that the past two companies I am working for are headquartered outside California. Maybe there is something to this.
- Robert Scoble
I couldn't agree more with all of the points she makes. All of our expenses in Atlanta would not even cover rent in a larger startup market. I will say that I'm not sure if it makes it stupid to launch in the valley, if you can afford it. It can be a very big advantage, but you do have to network and get out of your city, as being "world famous in Atlanta (or other place)" would only ever get anyone so far...
- Scott Lockhart
Robert, where is Rackspace located? Is it in Texas? Texas is a great place to start a business - I keep considering going back.
- Jesse Stay
Rackspace is in an abandoned shopping mall in San Antonio. http://blogs.zdnet.com/green...
- Andrew Leyden
We're located in New York and Tennessee: I think the point about VC is important; most companies will never need it or go after it. Our product is self-financed and we keep our company small. I think outside the Valley it's a different mentality to running a business: there's no room for building companies around crazy ideas that don't pan out for years.
- Mark Trapp
Well, now that home prices are down by an average of 41% in the Valley, it's not quite as bad as it once was. Still overpriced, but...
- Kevin Pedraja
What's interesting about Rackspace's move is some of the reasons behind it--lower cost electricity, closer proximity to major East/West and North/South bandwidth pipes and lower cost housing for staff. In a way, the Internet 'which is everywhere' is now to a point that to develop efficiencies you need to be in a a spot with some favorable non-technical attributes. These new spots may become the 'ports cities' of the next few years where other business will locate because of the proximity to the onramp.
- Andrew Leyden
Andrew: San Antonio also has lots of geeks. Wifi and the 8088 chip were developed there.
- Robert Scoble
Isn't San Antonio the home of Texas Instruments? Edit: nope, Dallas.
- Mark Trapp
I am having flashbacks to that old IBM commercial where 2 guys are walking in the middle of nowhere adn one says "There is internet here" Great article. Another hard part about being based in the valley is recruiting people from outside the area to move, the cost of living freaks a lot of people out
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
She's one of those people you shouldn't take advice from- like the Fake Steve Jobs- because her business ideas are her personality, not a "real" business in the sense that it makes widgets or even software. So taking that into account, and also the fact that her lifestyle is kind of insane (am a loyal reader of hers) - she has a million service-oriented jobs that she hires in, it's too numerous to state here- I disagree with her.
- anna sauce
For one, living in a very rich environment - money, skills, connections- is key to many businesses. It's like the old silk road. You don't start a rug trading business *off* the road. Also, because she doesn't make a specific product (that isn't herself) she doesn't understand that rehiring, or being super connected with like minded folks, is important to small businesses.
- anna sauce
I argue this point with my brother, former VC and serial entrepreneur, quite a bit. He argues that it's more secretive and protected being off the radar, and he can fly into the Bay Area. But he benefits from my "connectedness" all the time when he needs to hire people, hear about the next new thing, etc.
- anna sauce
Look at all the different meetups on a such wide variety of subjects in silicon valley. You won't find that level passion in other places.
- Todd Hoff
There are good reasons to be connected to Bay Area but it's still not needed to have any kind of physical presence there if the product don't depend of it. Still, I understand that it's quite nice environment for getting to know people.
- Daniel Schildt
Scott, regarding your point way up there about startup costs, it begs me to think (and no diss on your business idea) that the cost issues vet the idea immediately, whereas setting up somewhere else could keep something alive for years, despite no demand and/or profit.
- anna sauce
@anna, Not all startups are big earners from day one. For most, building a client base takes time & keeping costs low helps sustain the business. I favour this approach over the Funding, scale-then-revenue approach seen too often in the Valley.
- Steven Cains
What most people I think are missing is that she is mostly talking about traditional businesses, you know the kind that actually make a profit ;) If your vision/ambition requires such scale that you need VC money, then there is no better place in the world to be than the Valley. If you don't need it, then you are paying a premium on EVERYTHING to be there. Not to say that paying that premium isn't worth it sometimes, great access to talent, ideas, the energy, etc. but you are paying a premium.
- Tom Mancino
@Cains I think people go to brick and mortar way too fast, and build up employees way too fast. That's what I mean by vetting the idea. Also, even with private-funded enterprises there's a feeling that the market's there, and having to support costs, shows clearly whether the market is there or not. I tend to be conservative on this front, granted, but I've also grew up and lived here- worked at numerous startups, etc.
- anna sauce
I agree Anna, businesses take on needless costs too readily, and in most cases, being in the Valley is a needless expense. Ultimately, profitability is the benchmark of business success.
- Steven Cains
@Cains well I wouldn't locate to the valley to start a business, as I wouldn't move away to start one either.
- anna sauce
nope best way do doing it fast which is waht you need in start up mode is a small colocated team and you need acess to the vc's
- Maurice Walshe
Jason have you ever worked completely remotely or managed remote workers? It is not as easy as it seems and many people can't adapt to either side. Even technologist have a hard time adjusting from my experience.
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
We run our company remotely. It's not as hard as it seems on paper. Most issues are resolved in a couple of months.
- Mark Trapp
Can't stand the attitude of some web developers in believing they do not need to consider the end user. You sure as hell should!
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Or some web developers who don't think technical documentation is vital. Grrrrr
- Shevonne
Are you talking about designing hard to use UI? Or not validating what the user will do thusly opening your web app to exploits/vulnerabilities?
- Alex Scoble
A potent mix of both Alex. Just assuming that what the user enters is what you want. Even the most basic validation - it's not hard - just isn't done. First thing I try, a simple SQL injection, lays bare everything.
- Mo Kargas
Yeah, if you aren't validating user entries and URLs, your web app is insecure. It's that simple.
- Alex Scoble
It's funny because the culprits reckon they're "the shit" (ie mad awesome) in web dev. Simply aren't. Their app also has 4 levels of menus, each styled differently - I mean WILDLY differently. Some menus look like buttons, others like hyperlinks, some are images (WTF!). There should be design-level consistency so non-tech users can get around easily.
- Mo Kargas
Oh and also make sure they aren't leaving doc notes in HTML code...because, duh, that stuff is all visible to the user.
- Alex Scoble
Can't we all...just get along?
- Mo Kargas
Apparently not, Mo. Most developers seem to be completely against validation.
- Alex Scoble
I don't know if it's general laziness or simply stubborness.
- Mo Kargas
More than likely, a generous mix of both...
- Danielle Closs
Not to say that I am sore at developers (I'm working on a web development degree myself right now). I honestly think they don't realize the importance of usability in an application. Why, I'm not sure. Maybe it's our education system. We only had one usability class,and it barely covered the basics. I think more usability should be taught to developers. I've learned most of my usability knowledge on my own...
- Danielle Closs
And, yes, designers and developers should get along, and be friends even. If only each group would make an effort to understand the other, we would be all set (and I want world peace too!)
- Danielle Closs
Danielle - agreed, my usability training is a self taugh affair. My background is Comp Sci. I've worked in small web dev firms for a long time where close interaction between developer, designer and users I guess has made me the developer I am today - a lot more discerning, accurate and aware
- Mo Kargas
In all fairness, WEB usability specifically is a newer science... But, we still need web design and development education to keep up with the fast paced technology; that needs to be corrected. It won't get fixed if we don't push the issue, and spread the knowledge around. Then again, we can't make people learn what they don't want to learn (outside of the education system), unless we hold their paycheck (when they do enter the job market).
- Danielle Closs
But, what my college does repeatedly encourage is that the audience is key, mostly in business classes. That should translate to web development as the end-user is key. Maybe students don't get this connection??
- Danielle Closs
there'a pretty good UX blog out there called UX Booth (http://uxbooth.com) they have a 4 person panel pick apart websites and blogs. They do a very thorough and fair job, and it gives really practical observations. good stuff
- Scott Lockhart
@Scott Thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out. Sounds like a good idea!
- Danielle Closs
It's not that we don't want too... it's that our clients never want to pay for the time required to properly test their site with focus groups...
- Joshua Schnell
@Joshua You have a point there, businesses need to be informed more too... Of course, in these trying economic times, I bet usability is one of the first things to go, as far as [imagined] overhead. I don't know that I would call it overhead per se, but the ones holding all the cards may think so.
- Danielle Closs
Are You a Social Media Scientist? - http://leftthebox.com/archive...
no
- Scott Lockhart
I'm a Social Media Expert, though...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Decatur start up aims to find the best blogs | ajc.com - http://www.ajc.com/busines...
There's still something nice about getting into the newspaper. At least now my parents might read something about what we're doing.
- Scott Lockhart
from Bookmarklet
Thinking about social media trust today. How do you determine who to trust and why? It's no longer about Technorati authority. What do you do?
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whas your view steve? :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
"In FriendFeed We Trust"...
- Tyson Key
I size up trust based on the value of information people share with me. I love people who help me find things I don't have time to do on my own.
- Steve Rubel
One of the benefits of social media is each individual has easily accessible history. If I find someone new, I can see your posts, your tweets, your shares, and get an idea as to if you're trusted. Technorati is still useful, and referrals from people you know are very important.
- Louis Gray
In terms of companies? Influencers? Are you asking how professionals determine who to reach out to? Or consumers?
- Kevin Pedraja
kevin.. he is asking what criteria do you use to judge trusting or not. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You always end up at a trusted source since everobody share their "news". Very few people create their own news.
- Håkan Dahlström
FriendFeed is a good help there also due to your comments/likes stream, so I can see how you as an individual talk, refer to others and become an information filter.
- Louis Gray
I judge people mainly on what they say (e.g. write) and how they present themselves. I also like to see indications (or true "proof") that they are continually learning and questioning their knowledge. Blog and friendfeed history provide great clues. I find Twitter backlog less interesting. Oh, and I'm also interested how they handle comments.
- Meryn Stol
I do all of the above plus just read the quality of their tweets, comments and the way people converse with with others.
- Zee.
much like....real life then ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm well I don't think I was complete, nor do I think I can be complete in this. I also find people with a track record in "doing" (building a company or product) interesting. At least they know what they are talking about, even if they are not reading all day. Doers have great wisdom.
- Meryn Stol
+1 Rob
- Zee.
What does the Trust Barometer say?
- dorothy jean
Two ways for me: (1) Endorsement by someone else I already trust. (2) Build-up over time of a body of content/info/perspectives that I like. Repeated exposure gets me there.
- Hutch Carpenter
I can see a blog post coming out of this. Steve, I hope you'll write one!
- Meryn Stol
Sorry, I found the technorati reference confusing. Technorati is a measure of influence. But I think of "trust" being a function of something more subjective. Qualities like transparency, authenticity, etc. I don't trust people because they're influential; in fact I sometimes think that's a reason to trust them *less* . ;)
- Kevin Pedraja
I think credit card numbers would be sufficient for me.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Yes, yes, and yes to pretty much all the points voiced here so far. I think most people formulate their trust valuations through intuition more than is realized. How many people keep a spreadsheet tally of discrete, observed actions by individuals and organizations with a corresponding trust score? We aggregate and go on the gestalt of our collection of memories. Ok, enough of the abstract. This parrot-human behavior modification article is interesting: http://www.nd.edu/~kkiess...
- Micah Wittman
I am not sure if trust is the right word, maybe respect? I think most would agree that even though you "know" someone online, it's not the same as getting to know them in person.
- Scott Lockhart
Credibility?
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
A fine fabric of trust often escapes attempts to capture it in "metrics". Too many people around are busy manipulating media space instead of just being authentic.
- Mindaugas Dagys
"Trust" can take months or years to build, but can be wiped out in minutes (think John Edwards).
- mark ivey
I don't think we really trust anyone but those closest to us. I have confidence in the judgment of those who have proven themselves over time. I will willingly follow those whose interests overlap with my own, or who laugh at the same things I do. Like Steve, I really like people who share a lot, but I don't know if I really trust them.
- Dominic Jones
Trust is built on perceived value - what people share that is valuable to you. Frankly, most of social media is filled with blather. Twitter top jockeys are those who are constantly giving out great links - not just saying what they had for lunch. Top FriendFeeders for me are the aggregators who bring me new and valuable data -what I think is valuable. Trust is personal.
- Robert Worstell
endless comparison.....web 3.0 is reputation management
- Steve Epstein
Trust my own judgement. Of course there is a circle of trust, which has nothing to do with rankings, or popularity. It could be a person with one connection whose links are the kind I enjoy and learn from and that's all that matters
- Deepak Singh
Twitter&FriendFeed are my best "trust" services
- Igor Poltavskiy
Looking for opportunities overseas and interstate. I'm finished living here
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Dear Aussies; what state should I target? Vic or QLD?
- Mo Kargas
Victoria!!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
*panics*
- Mo Kargas
QLD!
- Johnny Worthington
VIC!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Since I live here, I have to say Vic, but then again it's good weather in QLD... nah, Victoria!!!!
- Ms Penny Claus
So hard to decide, needs to happen soonish, need a complete change of scenery. Got very few friends left in SA
- Mo Kargas
What are the job opps like in each state?
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Better in Vic for my line of work than QLD
- Mo Kargas
It depends what you want, what you are looking for in you new home.
- jjprojects
More money, new scenery, new things to do
- Mo Kargas
Vic for the work, QLD for the weather
- Duncan Riley
what? no NSW love?
- Scott Lockhart
The problem with NSW is I know no one there, and the last time I went to Sydney I was assaulted.
- Mo Kargas
as a tourist, I found QLD to be my favorite state.
- Nathan Eckenrode
Come to Victoria, Mo :D
- Ms Penny Claus
well that would probably put you off...
- Scott Lockhart
Victoria is better in every way. Queensland doesn't even have the weather argument any more, it rains there more than here now.
- Paul Montgomery
Video of the Day: Accent Elimination Program - http://blog.revver.com/?p=1162
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Sometimes I feel like I must have taken a correspondence course in this. Terrible accent loss over the last few years.
- Scott Lockhart
My accent seems to come and go. I fear my twang has gotten more noticeable since I've been back in Texas.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I am speechless...I am without speech.
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"Cause I'm a pitbull" "Terrier!" Curious if anyone not including my husband will get that reference.
- Admiral Anika
*scratching my head*
- Josh Haley
Check my feed: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Admiral Anika
Wait, is that Mark Wilson before he shaved his porn stache?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Gunther! Probably one of the best quasi-live shows you'll ever see. Seriously... quite entertaining considering every song is more or less the same.
- Scott Lockhart
DAMMIT TINA!
- Josh Haley
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