Discussion About YungSang Rejaw XML Viewer - Rejaw Fugees

This is the Rejaw N.E.T XML file http://cid-dba9b6894d17dc21.sk... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

got it. - YungSang from FriendFoo

a 2.7 mb XML file!!!! hahaha - Avatar X from FriendFoo

that alone cracks me up - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Oh it's nice. already an individual file. - YungSang from FriendFoo

biggest XML file ever!! - Avatar X from FriendFoo

put just 1 line. - YungSang from FriendFoo

Let me try. - YungSang from FriendFoo

yeah. does that means that danny corrected the file or that somehow the first one got corrupted and spliced? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

the original one was madness. 54,000+ 1k xml files 0_0 i was like: this cannot be right... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

doesn't work.. - YungSang from FriendFoo

too big uh? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

It doesn't seem to run XSL. hmm - YungSang from FriendFoo

well. now you got another mistery. i cannot make it open without jamming the netbook in a xml viewer.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

still unzipping the previous file. - YungSang from FriendFoo

tried with one but as i said...a 2.7mb xml file!!!! - Avatar X from FriendFoo

that is kinda like rendering a feed with 10,000+ snippets that vary in length and content. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

pretty much a good analogy i think. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

unzipped. - YungSang from FriendFoo

will try. - YungSang from FriendFoo

ok - Avatar X from FriendFoo

but IE8 does renders it in the raw perfectly.. something is something - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Looks good for a small file. http://yungsang.com/rejaw... - YungSang from FriendFoo

BTW, why do you have this file? it seems the others...??? - YungSang from FriendFoo

what do you mean? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

no your name in that page. - YungSang from FriendFoo

because i was a special user man..:P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

lol you might faved it? - YungSang from FriendFoo

i guess you never read when i told kenn that i have figured out a way to read every single shout i rejaw without or without following the user - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i could do that for whispers too for that matter but i am a good guy - Avatar X from FriendFoo

;) - Avatar X from FriendFoo

he- - YungSang from FriendFoo

ok - YungSang from FriendFoo

it was downright cleverness. like figuring out how stupidly simple was to copy a gamecube disk. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

That's it. - YungSang from FriendFoo

or copying a protected vhs with a old tv - Avatar X from FriendFoo

ah good times.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

that's it? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

@YungSang umm? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

We found that the big file is no good for this. - YungSang from FriendFoo

I gave up your N.E.T. file. Sorry. - YungSang from FriendFoo

it is ok..i am trying out something.. rendering it on expression web by adding a web template and a CSS - Avatar X from FriendFoo

in theory it should work..since it opened in a breeze as raw - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Deleted your files. - YungSang from FriendFoo

ok then. will lock them up in skydrive now then. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

done - Avatar X from FriendFoo

good night. - YungSang from FriendFoo

expression web won't let me since i have to built the template,etc,etc first and the load it without any guarantee it will work - Avatar X from FriendFoo

did you used a XSL stylesheet? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

or it is just CSS in the output for your viewer? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

? what do you mean? - YungSang from FriendFoo

XSL + CSS + JS - YungSang from FriendFoo

can you lend me the files? i think that visual studio does is able to build it up easily - Avatar X from FriendFoo

sure - YungSang from FriendFoo

ok. it is fun to play around. otherwise the only easy thing to do is to convert it to document - Avatar X from FriendFoo

from there a word out can be then done and if i want to i can load elements one by one. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

(not that i would want too) - Avatar X from FriendFoo

sent DM - YungSang from FriendFoo

saw the notification - Avatar X from FriendFoo

thanks - Avatar X from FriendFoo

you're welcome. - YungSang from FriendFoo

downloaded - Avatar X from FriendFoo

you are going to sleep then? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Good Night for you friend - Avatar X from FriendFoo

yeah. going to. - YungSang from FriendFoo

Thanks. you,too. - YungSang from FriendFoo

can we send direct messages from friendfoo? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

nope. only get it. - YungSang from FriendFoo

ah - Avatar X from FriendFoo

ok, good night - Avatar X from FriendFoo

no API for DM yet. - YungSang from FriendFoo

solved it. it were some damn non standard simbols that messed up with the transformation. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

well. more like Visual Studio told me so :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

edited it and then loaded the XSL and rendered it - Avatar X from FriendFoo

went to the store and came back. so the actual rendering time was just 7 minutes. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

http://content.screencast.com/users... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

more than enough proof that it rendered all the thread and with elements. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Nice! - YungSang from FriendFoo

>>72: What kind symbol? It might be my bug? - YungSang from FriendFoo

Thanks. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

No, it was a series of unsupported symbols in three different comment inside the thread. they are part of the xml so they appear as blockspaces (empty squares) - Avatar X from FriendFoo

those pretty much can fuck up any translation/conversion/transformation - Avatar X from FriendFoo

>>84: I see. - YungSang from FriendFoo

Thanks for the big test. :) - YungSang from FriendFoo

it pissed me off. i was not going to let it beat me. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

you did retried with the fixed file? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Nope. Should I? I think that I don't need to do so. and will take sooo long :p - YungSang from FriendFoo

heh, yeah. i mean it took 7-10 minutes for visual studio 2008 to do it locally = crazy.. it was as if was compiling something.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

lol - YungSang from FriendFoo

funny enough i did tried it iterasi..told it to save the whole thread - Avatar X from FriendFoo

XML -> XHTML by XSL then string -> link and media by JS - YungSang from FriendFoo

received a automated message in the service : please do not try to save pages with more than 1000 elements. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i LOLed - Avatar X from FriendFoo

wwww - YungSang from FriendFoo

but did saved the last view https://www.iterasi.net/Viewer... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

oh damn. it is not public.. wait - Avatar X from FriendFoo

need an account? - YungSang from FriendFoo

BTW, The FriendFeed real-time API doesn't lost any comments so far. Nice! - YungSang from FriendFoo

yeah. you do need a account.. oh well. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i remember that it used to let anyone see.. weird. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Hmm. Is it good? - YungSang from FriendFoo

iterasi??. it is incredible - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Ok. let me try. - YungSang from FriendFoo

you bookmark a page and it saves the page in the state you saw it when you bookmarked it - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Sounds nice. - YungSang from FriendFoo

Signed up - YungSang from FriendFoo

yeah. it is a very good Asp.net app made by pete grillo. inventor of wesync and founder of protools - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Pete Grillo has been active in Portland-area high-technology firms for more than 20 years. In 1997, Pete founded WeSync.com, a venture-backed Web and wireless data synchronization company. WeSync.com became widely recognized for its innovation and advanced technologies, which lead to its acquisition by Palm, Inc. in February 2001. Previously, Pete co-founded ProTools, Inc., a venture-backed developer of network management applications, which was acquired by Network General, and co-founded DWB Associates, a software-consulting firm. In May of 2007, Pete formed iterasi, Inc. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

>>98: "The page that you are trying to view was intended for a different iterasi user." - YungSang from FriendFoo

don't know why iterasi has not gotten bigger or made it better so far.. i guess it is because he is doing it by himself.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

what?.. that is so dumb.. i guess i have my answer there. will check it out.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

any way to share it in the site? - YungSang from FriendFoo

so you cannot see the page? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

can't - YungSang from FriendFoo

i will check. i am on it.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

umm. it accepts sending by e-mail.. what account you use? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

"MARK THE RESULTING ARCHIVE AS PRIVATE" ? - YungSang from FriendFoo

gmail? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

sent. WTH.. i don't remmeber iterasi having these kind of fucked up requirements..will send a e-mail to them. this is idiotic - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Got it. - YungSang from FriendFoo

Nice. very last moment... - YungSang from FriendFoo

it is a shame. no wonder it is not known.. a shame because there is really nothing like it - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i mean. with regular bookmarking you never know when the pages are gonna break, change or dissapear. this solves that. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

http://sqrl.it/?vtkhg - YungSang from FriendFoo

Nice. >>128: - YungSang from FriendFoo

>>129: works. - YungSang from FriendFoo

oh. so there is a open version. but it is not intuitive.. and not stated in the dashboard... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

so. you liked it? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i saved several rejaw pages. i wish i had done the same with pownce.. :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

I saw it in the page you sent. Liked. - YungSang from FriendFoo

I've already done several pages, too. - YungSang from FriendFoo

the old fashion way? offline pages? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

http://sqrl.it/?xsgwh - YungSang from FriendFoo

Nice!!! - YungSang from FriendFoo

it did made me wish i would have seed whole rejaw with a domain extractor.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

lol - YungSang from FriendFoo

yeah. if you have favorites this is a perfect way to save those shouts.. :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Go to Rejaw API pages. :p - YungSang from FriendFoo

in my experience it can tolerate up to 500-1500 depending elements - Avatar X from FriendFoo

500-1500 replies - Avatar X from FriendFoo

I see. - YungSang from FriendFoo

It's really good. Don't need my XSL. :) - YungSang from FriendFoo

iterasi rocks, but the N.E.T is on another level - Avatar X from FriendFoo

it had it queue for 24hrs and tried one time every hr. it has a tolerance of 10 minutes of load = not a chance - Avatar X from FriendFoo

:D :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i bet the system thought i was trying to overload them or something.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

in my case. so quick. nice. - YungSang from FriendFoo

a yes. it is super quick - Avatar X from FriendFoo

UI is a little bit old style. - YungSang from FriendFoo

you know what it would be cool? since it has a bookmarklet? a script so it instantly saves every page loaded in a browser on demand.. :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

:P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

that would give "saving a browser session" a whole other meaning.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

instantly save and can organize. - YungSang from FriendFoo

But I wish I could play it like gmail. - YungSang from FriendFoo

yeah, the development is kinda slow on iterasi.. a small update a month.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

that is why i think it is a pete grillo pet project..a retirement one i guess since he got money after those two nice company sales. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

pete grillo pet? - YungSang from FriendFoo

they also got toolbars. will try them again to see if they have been upgraded - Avatar X from FriendFoo

>111 - Avatar X from FriendFoo

I see. interesting. - YungSang from FriendFoo

there was a service i liked called webaroo. it had a cangaroo as mascot.. it made something like this by saving the entire pages locally and just adding a way to render them in a orderly fashion. it was pretty much a mix of iterasi with a old school extractor.. it was a web 1.0 dotcom - Avatar X from FriendFoo

still out there.. http://download.cnet.com/Webaroo... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

heh.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

it could be said that iterasi is the web 2.0 version of the original webaroo - Avatar X from FriendFoo

he- - YungSang from FriendFoo

http://www.appatic.com/ - Avatar X from FriendFoo

mine. will load something here soon. it is a app review blog - Avatar X from FriendFoo

web app, desktop apps, services.. a mix of download squad with mashable but with actual researching and testing. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

:P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

OK. subscribed. - YungSang from FriendFoo

i think that i must do so as a way to vent.. after all who test more software than me? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

by the way you saw jetpack from mozilla right? i saw it and it is kinda like greasemonkey and stylizer into one right? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

you load scripts and css with it in a persistent way and that is about it right? - Avatar X from FriendFoo

not yet but some people said so. - YungSang from FriendFoo

stylizer is to load css as you load js. it can change the css of any site - Avatar X from FriendFoo

don't know if you had seen it or used it - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Already that in Fluid. - YungSang from FriendFoo

CSS, JS and one like google gears. - YungSang from FriendFoo

ah damn. it is stylish. not stylizer.. the latter is a css editor - Avatar X from FriendFoo

I know them, but I've never used stylish. - YungSang from FriendFoo

fluid... sad how bubbles was first than everyone but never got anywhere.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

yes everyone riffed them - Avatar X from FriendFoo

fluid, prism, chrome and even silverlight OOB - Avatar X from FriendFoo

funny enough only fluid has surpassed it. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i saved a copy of all css and js scripts and html base of rejaw. just for kicks. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

extracted them.. what the hell :P - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Me, too. :) not all, but some - YungSang from FriendFoo

by the way since they will be dead in 4hrs. i will reveal my clever trick. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

What is that? - YungSang from FriendFoo

the way you can see every single shout/whisper is with a feed browser - Avatar X from FriendFoo

a feed? - YungSang from FriendFoo

a feed browser. i put the domain. put the feed structures and then i just select the username or sniff them from the domain - Avatar X from FriendFoo

it was a idea from holand that never took off from 2006.. a feed browser. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

hmm - YungSang from FriendFoo

they had several like those. like feedxs for example - Avatar X from FriendFoo

feedxs.com gave you a feed without site.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

still does for that matter. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

I see. - YungSang from FriendFoo

based on that one thought about a way to see the feeds intead of sites.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

the other parallel tech that allowed it was the feed creator. the ones how create a feed from any site. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

back then i had the ide of why not having a feed creator for wap? you produce a message as a feed element. sent it to wap site and then anyone can read it using a wap browser as a fauxsite. it was clever but by then the jump for real web was in motion - Avatar X from FriendFoo

so you can say i had a twitter like pre twitter concept.. just that it was more aligned in a individual use.. not as a network in a single domain. basically my idea was great but too web 1.0.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

hmm - YungSang from FriendFoo

well. whatever.. now you got something else to archive your bookmarks. glad you liked it. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

Thanks. Excuse me to need a rest. - YungSang from FriendFoo

also glad that i made the xml work fast. thanks to your files of course.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

N/P - YungSang from FriendFoo

yes. c-y later - Avatar X from FriendFoo

cy - YungSang from FriendFoo

hahaha.. i loaded up a webaroo instance on rejaw.. it is now extracting as much it can get to extract in 2 hours.. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

set up to extract up to 5gb or 100,000 pages. whatever happens first. now it is at 886 pages at 48.5 mbs - Avatar X from FriendFoo

i also made a extract directly for htt://www.rejaw.com/avatar awesome. thanks again yungsang out chat reminded me of webaroo and its extractor. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

doing it by a domain extractor is a drag and too manual. - Avatar X from FriendFoo

http://content.screencast.com/users... - Avatar X from FriendFoo

lets see how much it manages to advance before rejaw death - Avatar X from FriendFoo

while rejaw.com gives a denial of service the assets are still alive. how do i know? because webaroo continues to download and has not stopped yet. if it found a dead end; it would just simply stop. - Avatar X from FriendFoo