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Heather Piwowar posted an entry on Research Remix

BHAG for Openness

September 16 at 11:48 am - Link

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very much like. I am supposed to give a talk to my department on open issues later this year. I could use sometimi like this for the punchline! - Cameron Neylon via fftogo

This is awesome, and I wish you all the best with it Heather. - Bill Hooker

Cameron, please do! It would be really cool to see someone run with it... - Heather Piwowar

Thanks, Bill! Unfort, it is a no go with our department, I think. Lots of competing and contradictory goals. Oh well, maybe someone else will make it happen in their department, that's almost as good :) - Heather Piwowar

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UK funder policies on open data

September 17 at 11:33 am - Link

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Trying to find the details but I think this is now out of date - I was recently told that all UK research councils had adopted the BBSRC data sharing statement but I can't find any immediate evidence of this online - Cameron Neylon

Good to know, thanks Cameron. - Heather Piwowar

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Data on display : Nature News

September 16 at 5:32 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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"Two researchers explain why they're posting their experimental results online." - Ricardo Vidal via Bookmarklet

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09/9/08 PHD comic: 'Tales from the Road - CERN, pt. 2'

September 10 at 9:38 am - Link

keep reading till the last bubble... nice plug! - Heather Piwowar

Shirley Wu posted a message

“Have heard it's better to separate the work and social aspects of life on the internet, but I'm getting tired of having 2-3 blogs. E.g. Do science posts go in my "work blog" only, or do I double post? Is consolidation acceptable assuming I keep all posts more or less appropriate for all audiences?”

August 14 at 4:11 pm - Link

I read a great blog post on this awhile back - http://tinyurl.com/5sqhh3 In a nutshell become your own information hub. Use your person website as a catch all to post everything that is going on in your online life. I made this switch a couple of months ago and it seems to be working well for me. - Jamie McQuay

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I have 2 blogs. My personal blog is posted to only rarely and usually it's limited viewing anyway. On the other hand Twitter takes care of a lot of things that I might say on a personal blog ... Now, to some extents it's semantics. bbgm is a *very* personal blog. It just happens to be about techie stuff. - Deepak

I guess I already sort of have a hub already but it's been mostly abandoned lately since blogging and FF have been so much more convenient. I am thinking of migrating to a Wordpress blog, though, so that may be a good solution. If the life scientists crowd doesn't care about my dumpling recipes or the last tournament I played in, they can just ignore them. I'm hoping that categorizing and tagging things well will help to mitigate audience annoyance, should there be any... - Shirley Wu

Wordpress is great for tagging/categorising. Multiple blogs is way too much work for me (plus, I'm not *that* interested in more personal/social blogging, nor would I assume anyone would want to read it). I tend to post more whimsical observations to twitter, facebook or tumblr. So long as your main portal is largely on-topic, I think people will forgive the occasional diversion; and as you say, tags/categories let them ignore it if they choose. - Neil Saunders

What would you post to your "work minus science" blog? I think it's better to keep things separated, if only for the sake of subscribers. People might be interested in what I have to say about bioinformatics, but not so much that my second son just learned to say "Papa". I think most people won't want to bother with subscribing to the appropriate tag(s) on your blog. - Michael Kuhn

I pretty much have two of everything - two blogs, two friendfeeds, two deliciouses, etc. Otherwise: worlds colliding. - Richard Akerman

I'd be interested in dumpling recipes :) But I'm with Neil - far too much work to keep things separate but then I don't really put anything that is _really_ personal online. - Cameron Neylon

I have one blog for chemistry research and one for elearning - I just duplicate posts when appropriate. That seems to work for me. - Jean-Claude Bradley

My $0.02: I don't blog much "personal" stuff, most of what I do online is about my obsession with Open Science. I do have a photoblog which feeds into a sidebar on my main blog, but otherwise I figure anyone reading me will put up with/happily ignore the occasional political outburst or personal rant. Seems there are as many ways of dealing with this question as there are bloggers... - Bill Hooker

Keeping a hard line between social and work stuff is overrated. Or overworried. First, as Cameron said, don't put any really private stuff up anyway. And as Bill said, the cognitive load of ignoring a post that you're really not interested in is low. Just hit 'n' in reader. As long as there's enough I am interested in, it's ok. Besides, dumplings are yummy. - NatBlair

I say throw it all in to one... more fun that way for all of us readers :) I hear you, though... I've mostly just not blogged personal things because I didn't want to cross contaminate a "work blog" with kiddo stories. But maybe life is too short to take it that seriously. Bring on the recipes, I'd enjoy them! - Heather Piwowar

I used to have three blogs - one on politics, one on science, one on education, and it was hard to manage. When I joined Seed scienceblogs, I fused the three into one and never regretted it - this way my one blog attracts a diverse audience: people who want to see my travel pictures also see science stories, people who come to read about Open Access, also get to see my slam of McCain, etc. - Bora Zivkovic

Thanks for the feedback! I definitely want to migrate to wordpress anyway (the commenting interface on Blogger leaves much to be desired), and since it gives you the option of categorizing your posts I think I will be integrating two of my blogs into one. Is there a good webizen way to do the switch, or is a final post on the old one saying "go to the new one, update your bookmarks/feeds" sufficient? - Shirley Wu

Bora Zivkovic posted an entry on A Blog Around The Clock

Praxis #1

August 15 at 5:50 pm - Link

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That is a very long list :) - Pedro Beltrao

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Spread the word (this is official link-whoring) ;-) - Bora Zivkovic

I don't have time to *read* all that! But I like that it's there. - Eva

Great job, Bora! - Michael Nielsen

@Eva: just bookmark it for later, as a resource ;-) - Bora Zivkovic

That's why I "liked" it and commented. I can find it again now! - Eva

Really nice compilation - I had read some of these posts before, but there are many other gems in there... - Hilary

Need more NN folks in there - can someone scan, collect and submit for the Praxis #2? - Bora Zivkovic

great job! Need to go through them all! Maybe I could host one of these some day. Not sure, seems like a lot of work... - Björn Brembs

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Free! Why $0.00 Is the Future of Business: By Chris Anderson

August 16 at 12:39 am - Link

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Read this a while ago; very good read - Neil Saunders

Don't know how, but I completely missed this first time around - Graham Steel

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Mapping Peoples Interest: Google Insight Search

August 15 at 3:49 pm - Link

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"open science" is way ahead of "science 2.0"... - Bill Hooker

ends before means - Jean-Claude Bradley

The Life Scientists: Pawel Szczesny posted a message

“What do you think about writing a cyclic publication about "Science 2.0 - current status"? I was somehow inspired by Nucleic Acids Research Database and Web Server issues, which collect new and updated services once a year.”

August 16 at 8:59 am - Link

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Great idea. Perhaps it could be done under the purview of a journal ala the database issue - or maybe entirely independent and online? - Todd Harris

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It could be a wiki, but since wikis don't have deadlines for things to contribute, things delay and delay (myself being also guilty). With publication hopefully in a journal this could be easier. When I recently compared presence of web 2.0 concepts in life sciences to medicine, I realized that we don't have many publications touching new technologies and new challenges of openness in area of life sciences. - Pawel Szczesny

Todd, yes I thought about peer-reviewed journal, also because of incentives to contribute :). - Pawel Szczesny

How about Database: http://www.oxfordjournals.org/... - Todd Harris

"Database" doesn't look bad, although I was thinking about something like PLoS One. I have envisioned an article that could summarize in few sections news and challenges of open access, online collaboration tools, ONS etc. This would be something along what Cameron is working on, although with larger scope and cyclic (collecting online science collaboration sites doesn't seem to end). I think it's about the time to push the topic to a peer-reviewed journal. - Pawel Szczesny

For example, I don't think there's in PubMed an article defining and describing Open Notebook Science. Jean-Claude, do you think it would be worth to rewrite your original post from 2006 (I cannot imagine such article without your name on it)? - Pawel Szczesny

Have you considered writing it as front matter in, for example, PLoS Comp. Biol.? Depending on what exactly you are thinking about writing, it could be either a Perspective or Review article. - Lars Juhl Jensen

Lars, sounds good. I have no experience with such articles and no idea where it could fit. I think such publication could offer increased visibility for the concept, but also point of reference when pushing the concept forward (for example when trying to convince somebody to agree on online collaboration, instead of emailing word files or constant travelling). - Pawel Szczesny

At ISMB last year I had a brief talk with BMC editor Matt Hodgkinson about the appropriateness of an Open Notebook Science article review in BMC Bioinformatics. He seemed interested in the idea then. Notes: http://researchremix.wordpress... So that would be a possible venue. - Heather Piwowar

Thanks Heather, such ONS review is one of the things I'd like to see in some journal. It looks like there's enough examples by now :) - Pawel Szczesny

Pawel - sure I'd be interested in contributing to the ONS section. Good timing since our JoVE article should come out in a few weeks showing how we link to the lab notebook directly to support arguments. For a preview of the text component see current draft: http://usefulchem.wikispaces.c... - Jean-Claude Bradley

and yes I think PLoS ONE is a great vehicle - that's my plan for our next article - Jean-Claude Bradley

I agree that PLoS ONE would seem the obvious vehicle for a Science 2.0 paper. But I think that they only publish research articles and not reviews / perspectives. Correct me if I am wrong. - Lars Juhl Jensen

Correct. A Science 2.0 paper would be perfect for P-Comp Biology, or even PLoS-Biology, though. Pitch it to the editors and see what they say. - Bora Zivkovic

I'd be interested in participating in a paper on Science 2.0. PLoS is a good place to put it but try to balance it with Chemistry and not just Biology. Chemistry continues to be seen as a follower to Biology and leaving it our of the discussions won't help. Give it fair air... - Antony Williams

PLoS Biol seem pretty open minded. They said they'd have a look at the paper we are writing on the LaBLog - Cameron Neylon

Dear all willing to contribute, how do you see sectioning? After reading your comments I assume that at least three parts are must: open data, ONS and online collaboration. What else should go into such (white)paper? - Pawel Szczesny

There is an issue with all the '2.0' stuff. We actually need to get over the barrier of getting a first draft in place before the collaborative approach really works. Been lots of good ideas for writing articles in here but not much actual progress (and I am more guilty of that than most) - Cameron Neylon

Cameron, this is exactly what I try to do - push you all to publish finally the artists statement :) And while I'm willing to help as much as I can (I'll try to at least write a schema what could go in), I'm not interested in being on the author list - I'm interested in having this published. You can easily imagine how hard is to pitch S2.0 concept that wasn't "published" being a PhD student (with zero reputation) to somebody that doesn't even read blogs. - Pawel Szczesny

Yep - I know the feeling. Particularly having to explain what a blog is for the fifteenth time. Right, so we are working on a LaBLog paper. I do want to try and turn the 'facebook for scientists' rant into a paper or at least a commentary. We did start writing a document on open notebook science, perhaps we should get back to that? - Cameron Neylon

I think we're pretty much agreed in submitting to PLoS Biology. We now need to formally get stuck into this, prepare the list of authors etc.. I propose either (or both) Cameron or Jean-Claude as team leader. Will anyone second me? - Graham Steel

I would say that any formal document describing ONS should be lead by Jean-Claude in the first instance. It's his name after all :) - Cameron Neylon

Not sure how much I could contribute in actual writing, but even anyone wants a pair of eyes, someone to review the paper or bounce of ideas, you know where to find me. Can we start with a shortlist of topics to cover, that should help get things rolling. - Deepak

Pawel, if you want to do something on Science 2.0 that covers a lot of ground. Cameron and I can certainly fill out the ONS section - maybe come up with a list of topics and see if you have enough contributors. - Jean-Claude Bradley

Jean-Claude, it's a good idea. I'll try to sketch the structure tonight and let's see if that makes sense. If it doesn't, it's not an issue - ONS alone would be great to see. - Pawel Szczesny

Pawel In terms of ONS itself, my current intention is detail the concept as part of our next paper on anti-malarial synthesis and testing. It looks like we have finally a complete story on that project. - Jean-Claude Bradley

Just to stir the pot a bit - I wonder if Nature would be interested in running a short article on open notebook science? I think the momentum is just about there for such a piece. It'd probably stir a lot of controversy (think PhysioProf x 1000), but also get other people interested. - Michael Nielsen

Michael, sounds great as long it's open access ;) But seriously I wonder why they didn't touch this topic so far. O'Reilly will cover the topic before Nature, even if both hear what is being talked about at SciFoo. - Pawel Szczesny

"I wonder why they didn't touch this topic so far" - I'd guess because no-one has approached them. There are many people at Nature well aware and well informed on ONS and related topics. - Michael Nielsen

I expected some editorial commentary, but you're right, maybe they wait for some initiative from ONS people. - Pawel Szczesny

@ J-C and Cameron. We and anyone else present interested can have a face to face about this (as I was already thinking about earlier today) at the Royal Institution in London in two weeks time. Off top of head, we could collectively submit something to Nature Precedings. That's OA as we all know and might be a good place to house our musings to a wider audience. Don't tell Timo though at least when he's sober. Oh bugger, since this is all open, he can find out about our cunning plan. - Graham Steel

Graham yes it would be good to discuss face to face since we are meeting shortly - and yes Precedings is a good first choice no matter what else is done afterwards - Jean-Claude Bradley

By the way thanks for starting this thread Pawel - I am using it to close my presentation tomorrow at the ACS (at 16:25) as an example of using software to network productively http://tinyurl.com/5bq49v - Jean-Claude Bradley

agree - a face to face meeting to hack out a structure followed by distributed writing could work - Cameron Neylon

I'd be interested, and should be at nature science blogging. If it's any help I tried to write a short summary a couple of months ago => http://www.michaelbarton.me.uk... - Michael Barton

I should also say that I haven't been able to devote much time to keeping my notebook open, because I've been focusing on trying to get my PhD wrapped up in the next couple of months. I'm still interested in ONS though. - Michael Barton

Excellent. Given the hectic sched. of the Conference (any Conference really), it will be difficult to 'hack out the structure' of el project during it. I would suggest that Cameron, J-C, myself and hopefully, Michael do so post Conf. at a nearby pub/restaurant. We'll find out on the day where the attendees in general are heading off for post Conf. drinks and grab a table. @ Michael - you're not registered at an attendee according to the list. Please do however "come on down" on 30/8/08 if you can. - Graham Steel

I somewhat doubt that the organisers will 'turn away' people like yourself, although you should express your interest (to them directly) if you ain't done so already. That issue aside, we can obviously hook up with anyone interested post event. - Graham Steel

I would like to come back to the discussion (inspired by this: http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/jour... ) - did anybody has a chance to put some first draft after the blogging conference? I will be happy to help or to put one together, but I got impression that you'll discuss things in person :). - Pawel Szczesny

Thanks Pawel and Batts et al is indeed relevant and a damn fine Manu. At the Conf., unfortunately, I got tied up writing another Manu. with Peter M-R. I did set aside a table for discussion in the pub though. As far as I can gather, a discussion took place at Peter M-R's house the following day though. - Graham Steel

Lost this the first time I tried to post it. 2nd try. I think the Nature event a couple weeks ago (Social Notworking for Science) is relevant to this discussion. I attended via Second Life. It had sort of a 3-pronged approach. 1) What R the risks and costs (barriers of any sort) 2 the participation of senior scientists in social tech; 2) what R the benefits (& how do we let people know about them); 3) which social media are best suited with which science activities? Barriers was the bulk of the discussion. - Patricia F. Anderson

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Subject to change

August 15 at 11:28 am - Link

Fun spoof on reproducibility - Heather Piwowar

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My Faves for Friday, June 27, 2008

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Important! - Heather Piwowar

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My Faves for Friday, June 27, 2008

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My Faves for Friday, June 27, 2008

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Put yourself in the patient's shoes: no embargoes to medical research

July 2 at 9:18 am - Link

Important. - Heather Piwowar

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New unofficial Impact Factors for many BioMed Central journals

July 1 at 6:55 pm - Link

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I suppose this is good, even if I can't take Thomson stats seriously. Perhaps it will spur BMC to improve their turnaround time. - Neil Saunders

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It kinda bugs me when OA journals make a big deal out of their Impact Factors... - Bill Hooker

Bill, why? Impact Factors have serious disadvantages... but any reason why OA journals should eschew them particularly? Other than the fact that we really want to like OA journals and everything they do? :) - Heather Piwowar

I guess it's because we'd like OA journals to be forging a brave new world, free from the flaws of the old ways of publishing: for example, since impact factors are rubbish, why not just disregard them? Unfortunately, the OA journals need some metric to publicise their success and we have nothing better. - Neil Saunders

What Neil said. I'd like to see everyone ditch the IF, but especially OA journals. OK, OK, if you wanna get all logical it doesn't make much sense. :-P - Bill Hooker

The IF has been thoroughly discredited, especially over the last 7 or 8 months. People still using such a useless figure are only disqualifying themselves - the evidence from numerous sources is just overwhelming. - Björn Brembs

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The first FriendFeed scientific collaboration?

April 11 at 6:38 am - Link

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Cameron Neylon posted an entry on coComments related to CameronNeylon

Friendfeed, lifestreaming, and workstreaming (Why and where we search…)

April 7 at 8:33 am - Link

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This is still not working brilliantly - it would make more sense for the link to be the text of the comment. I think a bit of Yahoo piperage might fix that though. Will try tomorrow. coComment also doesn't work on Nature Networks, which is where the action was last night:http://tinyurl.com/5hjc47 - Cameron Neylon

This whole commenting thing is one reason I switched to Disqus ... perhaps there will be some consolidation in the space - Deepak

They really should have gone with an established, open-source CMS for Nature Network; would make aggregation and networking much easier - Neil Saunders

And it might actually stay up more than five hours at a time. Is it just that we put too much of a load on it? :) - Cameron Neylon

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