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Rex Hammock
FriendFeed, Twitter, Seesmic et al, are pointing in the direction of something. They aren't the destination.
Totally agree with this. - Dave Winer
I'm sure it will keep evolving. The Web in a few years will look very different. - Cathryn Hrudicka
it takes a real smart brain to attain such a simple, yet true, conclusion. Hats off, sincerly! - directeur from NoiseRiver
We're crossing the swamp, hopping from platform to platform as they're built one hop ahead of us. - Ken Sheppardson
I said "look very different"...the Web will sound and be experienced as very different in the future, involving all the senses and lots of interactivity. - Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I'd add TechCrunch and TechMeme to that list as well. - Dave Winer
Something needs to be the destination. That destination may change. Today it's FF for me. Tomorrow it could be something else. - Steve Rubel
Are these Web 2.0 services instead pointing to the need for some future database, searchable, filterable, where we'll all go for info? - Mark Dykeman
Well put. I'm wondering if FriendFeed will one day crawl the sites we share and flip a twist on search. - Dan Kaplan
I think where our ideas live and co-mingle will get much richer. The shared space will wander in and out of different worlds much more easily. We've got Level 1 integration, made possible by first generation APIs. It's nice the way FF and Pownce handle Flickr for example. Nice the way FF understands YouTube. Just knowing that you can do more if you know more about the data is a big step. Twitter is unwilling to take that step. These other guys are willing to tiptoe up to and over the line. Lots more to do. - Dave Winer
Ok I like Rubel's comment here a lot!!! Something needs to be the destination. How do we stop continuing to be dissatified with one app.. and at the same time continue to attack innovation??? Thats a bitch but damn I cant keep up with which kickass social app I am suppossed to using. - Cody Heitschmidt
FF et al + us == awakening the internet. - Chrimmus Tad
BTW, I doubt seriously whether Rex Hammock is even aware of this discussion. This is not a minor flaw. - Dave Winer
Are these the beginnings of the Semantic Web? - Prolific Programmer
Flaw with Rex Hammock or FriendFeed? - Chrimmus Tad
I don't think there will ever be "THE" desitnation site. As social sites evolve, users are constantly giving feedback on what they like and don't like and as a result, new site(s) will arise to address current limitations and offer new featurs and the cycle continues. - Bob Ngu from twhirl
@Cody, I'm just an everyday joeuser, but it's all good to me. I'm continually amazed at all of this. This from a guy who remembers B&W TV! - Larry Huffman
Im sticking with the decentralization argument. I want to host my own Twitter/friend-feed, just like I do with Wordpress, MoveType. I want my own MYSQL database to control my own data, my own security, just like everything. This is where its all evolving, I think. Currently, the transmission is backwards. And no one gets any linkcred for anything. - Andrew Baron
@Andrew, agreed. I want enterprise Twitter in lieu of pagers. On a team of 15 production engineers, that would be a big help towards endless reply-all emails. - Larry Huffman
@Andrew you're on to something here. Web 2.0 2001-2006 we all built equity exclusively on our personal sites (mostly blogs). However around 06 something switched - we built equity on YouTube, Facebook, then Twitter and now Friendfeed. It might go full circle as people get fed up doing so. - Steve Rubel
We're redefining (1) communities (2) friends-acquaintances (3) in-group out-group. In the wake of all the loneliness in the US nuclear-family-model, this is probably something people are crying out for... In the early days of public Internet 1991-1995, one very active group I followed was parents raising gifted kids. It was so hard for them to find a support-community. - Mitchell Tsai
That's probably quite true, but then again, half the fun is the journey, right? :) - Sawyer
Is there a destination? I hope not. Our tools change us even as we change them. - Craig Thomler
Not a flaw with either Rex or FF. - Dave Winer
Decentralization fixes #1: who owns the data (we own our own data), #2 scale issues Twitter is having - balanced load - P2P, #3 it protects the web from not being neutral - e.g. makes it more difficult for Verizon to allow ltd. access - #4 distributes server costs so its cheaper, #5 give developers and services more control over all. - Andrew Baron
Verner Vinge's Rainbow's End provided a good description of where things might be heading. http://tinyurl.com/67nzgm - Brad Collins
My feeling is it's not (just) the content, the real value is in your social graph - plus obviously the possibility to expand it; we're getting to a point where the specific service you're publishing on is becoming of secondary importance, while the real benefits lie in this cross-pollination of services. Facebook tried that by being - in a sense - a social OS with its apps, but in fact a 2.0 app can never be the OS. Internet can. - dario
totally with Andrew. Someone talked about "information siloses" referring to 2.0 services - open APIs are taps to those siloses, but you don't own them, you can't control them, yet you host your lifestream on them. What if you *were* the owner of the silo? - dario
@andrewbaron Personal portable version of what Tom Watson has done with http://tincorporated.com would be great, its an integrated lifestream with control over his assets, but still open to the web through those services APIs - Roger Penguino from fftogo
Andrew and Steve have good points. The initial Web 2.0 enabled self-publishing/ user generated content, but community was largely manual (via RSS readers, cross-linking, etc). The soc net revolution enabled mainstream community, but does not give us ownership. If we do go full circle -- and WordPress would be awesome for this btw -- we can self-publish, with community... and I think that's where Google Connect is going. - Allen Fuller
@davewiner - I'm aware of the discussion. I think it's amazing and even love the part where people are suggesting I'm clueless. - Rex Hammock