I left a comment agreeing with you on this post. - Robert Scoble
Linking may be less important but as I've said elsewhere the alternatives do not always provide quality traffic to go with the quantity. - Colin Walker via fftogo
'Like' * 3!!! You said what we've all wanted to say, Louis - thanks for this great post. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Interesting... and I wonder what this is going to do to Google's rankjuice flow model... if linking to others as part of a mutual info/attention ecomony starts to decline in importance and value. - Tom Beardshaw
@tombeardshaw, you can see how old-school google is .. - gregory lent
There's now a pretty good dialog in the Disqus comments on Louis' blog as well. Good reading - Charlie Anzman
@louisgray this is totally wrong. Linking is one of the most powerful signals you can send to Google about your importance and authority in your topical area. I will leave a bigger comment on your post but basically just read @DannySullivan comment carefully because he said it well. And he should know. Especially brand new bloggers NEED high quality links to even be found in Google. What % of your traffic is through Google? 60%? 75%? Enuf said. - Elliott Ng
@gregorylent maybe... searching people and what they've found here vs searching pages and their content on google? I find FF more useful for finding the latest content. Google still rules as an archive though. - Tom Beardshaw
@Elliott - I think the point of the post was that Louis is getting traffic from FF, google etc rather than from blogs linking to his posts. - John
I guess this could be seen as a Tipping Point for your blog, Louis. When you started out you relied on other people linking to you but now you generated enough content, authority and page rank that the referral traffic from blogs is minimal compared to what you get from Google searches. - John
John, that could be one way of looking at it. Also, year over year, a link from Scoble is about the same. I didn't get linked to from the big guys, aside from him, in 2007. I would get about 200 visits from his stories last year, and the FriendFeed one drove about 350 this year, with other mentions being in the 70 range. Also, this post wasn't supposed to be about me, per se, but about how the biggest blogs drove such a small amount of traffic, relative to social media, in general. - Louis Gray
IMHO, it was always the case that you got more comments the more you commented on other people's blogs. Sort of symbiotic relationship. FF seems to just be the next incarnation of the same rule. FF really is just a single portal to view a member's complete content stream and comment inline. - Shawn Smith
It would be interesting to take a look at a relatively new blogger who is active in social media to see what kind of numbers they are getting. - John
I agree with John above. I went through this with my niche blog. Now, my biggest worry is to keep advancing my game so I stay on the other side of the tipping point. Social Media is a part of that game, adding other services, networks, etc are an important part as well. But they're just tools. - John Frost
I'm inclined to think that there is something much bigger going on here. - Kevin
I think what's really going on is web browsing behavior is changing. People are less inclined to click on blog links. I think louis is right - folks are relying on aggregators and search engines to find content, or they're in their reader subscribed to so many blogs following the links within articles is less appealing. - Jason Kaneshiro
I think there is a point at which what Louis says is true, but it's after his blog "arrived" in a sense. After all, a link from Mashable that only give him 77 readers isn't much when he's getting 3,000 visitors from Google that same day. But it's a ton when no one knows who he is (including Google). I agree with John above about the "Tipping Point." - Bob Caswell
Great piece describing the changing landscape for how blogs are discovered and read. Interesting that the #1 and #3 blogs that drove your referrals were posts that themselves were powered by Techmeme and Digg. You indirectly got the benefit through those services. - Hutch Carpenter
i think i have to agree here. i used to find all kinds of new sites through post links but rarely click out of google reader unless i want to comment these days. ff and twitter drive me to more new sites now. - Steve Long
This applies to those people in the thick of the blogosphere and social media, NOT to the rest of the people on the Web who don't know what all this newfangled Web 2.0 stuff is. And quite frankly, that's a good 99% of the people getting online. - Wendy
I believe I agree with the change of discovery of content, but in the end it's still a link whether it's from a blog or from an aggregator such as FriendFeed - I still click on a link. We are simply adding multiple layers (shared thru Google Reader -> FriendFeed -> actual content). - simonpure
There's no irony of it being on Techmeme. I said that's where many people find their news... so it shows the system works. - Louis Gray
Links are still *extremely* important. Your 'Google/Organic' results wouldn't have happened unless you'd established yourself as a hub and authority in your 'neighborhood'. The only way Google understands this is by looking at links: quality and quantity. In addition, you don't get full credit for links right away. It takes time for Google to fully weight the links you have, thus avoiding ephemeral link gaming strategies. - AJ Kohn
Louis, great article on the sliding landscape of traffic aggregration, but I didn't see you make mention of the quality of your visits - only volume. SU for instance offers some great volume, but I'm not seeing a lot of stickiness from that source. However, I do see the smaller referers seem to build longer lasting communities - and yes FriendFeed has offered some great interaction. - ChangeForge via twhirl
Philip, you've been promoting my scripts more than I do myself. LOL! Thank you so much. - Hao Chen
The FF stats are a great mini snapshot of 10 people we find the most interesting. We all can agree on one thing, the stats are lacking
and could use a significant overhaul. - Mike Fruchter
good "seeding" as this grows, it will be nice to see more defined lists based on subject. - Nice Fish Films
82% of cell phone users in America - or just Americans? Makes a big difference in the stat... - George Smith
I'm a little slow tonight. I just got it Rex. - Kyle Lacy
I don't use text messaging either. Too expensive - Morton Fox
Really? I'm kind of shocked, I thought it was used way more than that. I used is moderately myself. - ChaCha Fance
I probably text TOO much and I think it has a lot to do with age. I sent 6,000 last billing cycle BUT I am always mobile on AIM and follow some people on Twitter. - Matt Donders
Good God! 6,000? I thought I was bad at 3500 - Kyle Lacy
I text more than talk. Quicker and easier to keep up with the convo. Also can talk to Twitter, Google, etc. via SMS. I probably wouldn't use it as much if i had a fancy-shmancy iPhone or something, though. - Rahsheen Porter
I never texted until coming to China. 0.1 RMB/message is a helluva lot more palatable than the rates they charge in the States. Plus, driving + texting == not so good. - John Biesnecker
That seems unbelievable. My foster kids text and don't call... - Francine Hardaway
That can't include cellphone texting can it? That seems like a really high number. - Dane morgan
Despite having worked in wireless many moons ago in the US, I sometimes forget how backward the US mobile market is, despite all the gadget-frenzy. Many analysts miss the importance of the iPhone's coolness jump-starting the data-services market in the US. If the mobile operators don't screw it up (which is not a sure thing), this early trend could turn out to be a game-changer for them, in spite of their own short-sightedness. - sage brennan
I am not surprised. People don't like paying for extra services. Phone companies rip you off to begin with. $20 for unlimited sms is crazy, when I get unlimited data anyways. It seems messed up. - jeremy franklin
Dylan Stableford pens another incredibly well-written and insightful article about the brilliant relaunch of an award-winning magazine. [Disclosure: Yes, this is a shame-less self-promotional link.] - Rex Hammock
Dylan Stableford pens another incredibly well-written and insightful article about the brilliant relaunch of an award-winning magazine. [Disclosure: Yes, this is a shame-less self-promotional link.] - Rex Hammock
Okay, I rarely implore people to read a blog post, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is one of the more important ones I've ever written. - Rex Hammock
RSS subscribers, social network follwers & FB app installs are not that meaningful, says Fred Wilson (who has lots of subscribers and followers). What matters is how many people are truly engaged with your content or service. - Rex Hammock
RSS subscribers, social network follwers & FB app installs are not that meaningful, says Fred Wilson (who has lots of subscribers and followers). What matters is how many people are truly engaged with your content or service. - Rex Hammock
Quote - "Newspaper and magazine publishers are beginning to conceive of a future without print - but in the B2B sector, the digital future is already here." (Note: I promise I've heard of IDG.) - Rex Hammock
Quote - "Newspaper and magazine publishers are beginning to conceive of a future without print - but in the B2B sector, the digital future is already here." (Note: I promise I've heard of IDG.) - Rex Hammock
Great article. The key to the noise issue is liberal use of the hiding features. - Aaron B. Hockley
agreed, nice primer - i tend not to use hide that much i just move on by since ff flows pretty quickly - i do tend to block more often lately though, mainly for those w/ high irritation tendencies - mike "glemak" dunn
Thx Aaron. Particularly with microblogging platforms, definitely, but as I noted, I don't do it for blog posts (well foreign language sutff aside) because the good stuff is usually in something someone had taken effort in writing, as opposed to say a Pownce/ Jaiku/ Twitter update - Duncan Riley
Great stuff! I do take a different opinion about duplication in syndicated streams, but otherwise very solid tips! Thanks! - J. Phil
J. Phil, one thing to keep in mind, if you start duplicating too much, people start hiding you. It's why I pulled things like Plurk out of my blog feed, and didn't add Identi.ca. The irony of course is that this is suppose to be a lifestreaming service, but I think we're starting to move past that very basic premise. - Duncan Riley
Duncan - I will agree, people start hiding some of the duplicate content. Hopefully just enough so that they are no longer seeing the duplication, and they have chosen the services they prefer (like diigo over del.icio.us in my case, or mixx over digg). And if a conversation springs up, if they did the hide right, they will still see it. - J. Phil
I need to start hiding things more. Also, when did you start integrating TradeVibes into posts? - Ben Parr
Here is my argument FOR duplication when necessary, and I guess I could make this into a blog post: I like an article, so I bookmark it and digg it. In theory, this generates FOUR entries in friendfeed: Diigo and del.icio.us, Digg and Tumblr. Looks like spam if you aren't filtering it, but some people will want to find me on digg, and others will want to see my tumblr. Why should I deny them? - J. Phil
My "like" here actually means I liked this. The one that really rang true with me is reciprocal follows. If you don't follow me, that's cool. But it's not likely I'll follow you long. FF really is a sharing kinda thing. If I wanted broadcast, I'd still be on Twitter. - Chris Baskind
I hide everything I've read. In fact, at one point I was hitting the daily limit on hides and when I'd hit the link the little loading icon would sit there and spin. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken - that's one of the more extreme uses of Hide I've heard. But then, I guess you won't see this comment... - Hutch Carpenter
I REALLY want to see the URL treated as the top level object. Six people each bookmarking and sharing and twittering a link shouldn't result in 18 new items in my feed...at least not by default. By default I'd like to see each of those actions appear as a "comment", and pop the item onto my list the same way a comment/like would. Here's my UI mockup :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/k... - Ken Sheppardson
Agreed a great article!! I am new here and need all the help I can get. - Mel.Buckpitt
No, saw your comment, Hutch. Because I regularly go back and look at the items I've commented on or have hidden. I switch back and forth from "discovery" mode where I'm hiding stuff that's in my "inbox" to "converation" mode where I go back and follow-up on stuff I've seen/liked/commented on. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, but then who owns the thread? Right now, the moderator of a thread (and owner) is the person who published the item on which the discussion resides. But if there are multiple people publishing the same story, and they're all now part of one single feed, who gets top billing? And how would you handle reshares, or bookmarklet shares? - Mark Trapp
If we take the time to 'clean up our own' stuff occasionally and throw a pointer to the primary thread (like this one already has) it will help for now. i have a lot of faith in the FF gang but right now, it's all in how you use it. First timers need to learn BEFORE they drop out. - Charlie Anzman
As a strawman I'd say the first person to post the URL "owns" it (does posting an item really give you any form of "moderation" functionality??) Any subsequent twits, shares, likes, comments... whatever... show up attached to the original post. There's be no point to "reshares". Commenting or liking an item would serve the same purpose. A bookmarklet share would appear the same way (as shown in my mockup) - Ken Sheppardson
Ken - I can see link aggregation for a particular user's stuff, but link aggregation between users would cause a lot of confusion. - J. Phil
Ken, the other thing with consolidation is a lot of times, merging conversations wouldn't be interesting to people. One group of people might have an entirely different discussion about the content that a different group of people may have. Merge all the items together, we all have to have the same conversation. It's been brought up a few times tonight, but every time Friendfeed takes away the control from the individual experience, you run into problems. It's what makes Friendfeed Friendfeed. - Mark Trapp
The forced merge of conversation doesn't seem to be the answer. - Mark Trapp
Perhaps there's some compromise where FF could add a drop down list of all the conversations associated with a particular URL, next to the "More" link, for example. Could list the action, number of comments, and number of likes. Or somebody could just come along and write a full blown desktop client that would let us slice/dice the feed the way we want to see it (ala email) - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, re the overall duplication: absolutely yes. I'd love nothing more than for FF to say list the primary link, the offer a supplemental list underneath of people who have Dugg, bookmarked, whatever under that. J.Phil, that goes to your point as well, although what I'd say is that although you can't avoid some duplication, but that doesn't mean you cant reduce it. If you're ping.fming Pownce, Twitter, Jaiku etc with the same message, do you need all three or more feeding into FF? - Duncan Riley
Ken - There is a point to re-shares. If we start re-sharing to FF rooms, that concept will gain more wide-spread acceptance, and possible help all of this. - Charlie Anzman
Duncan, I especially appreciated the unsubscribe without return follow tip. - Michael C. Harris
Duncan, I think the user bears a HUGE responsibility not to pollute the stream by feeding three or four copies of everything into their account (e.g. blog RSS, tweet of their post URL, FF note of their post URL, etc) and to just perhaps designate one bookmark services as feeding FF (I don't need to know somebody bookmarked AND greader shared AND dug etc an article) - Ken Sheppardson
Charlie, Good point RE rooms. Seems like it might be nice to just be able to tag an item and have it appear in the room as-is, with comment stream intact. - Ken Sheppardson
What about merging feeds just on a user's account? It wouldn't do anything for multiple people sharing the same stories, but it'd mitigate the problem of people sharing their stories to multiple services on their feed. It would still allow for water-cooler fragmented conversation, as well. - Mark Trapp
I have to agree with a lot of what you said here, especially the bit about unfollowing people. I cleaned out a lot recently for the very same reason. - Ross Maguire
This just happened to me. There was a post with a tinyurl redirect. When tinyurl goes down, then link gets lost. Thus, duplication of the article occurs or the link gets reposted somewhere in the comments. I see this often on Slashdot when servers get slashdotted. - Franklin Naval
Great article! Agree on the duplication of content. Sometimes it's just damn hard to think of all the possible ways, that the services will interact with each other. Will do it later on this week. - Sasha Kovaliov
The "Do unto others" rule is why I remove Seesmic from my services. When I get on Seesmic - I chat for hours. No one needs to be subjected to all that. - Sonciary Honnoll
Very good points, especially about the duplicates - there's nothing more annoying than to see the same links from the same person repeated 5 times from different services. The one point I don't get is the reciprocal following - I do have some "friendship" subscriptions & subscribers, but when I subscribe to someone who shares good links on a subject I'm interested in, I don't expect them to follow me in return. And when someone subscribes to me, I look at their content before deciding if I return-subscribe. - Chronistin
Thanks for the tips. Don't know if I could unsubscribe from those that don't follow me. I've only got 8 now and I want to keep each and everyone! That being said, thanks for the encouraging words towards the "hide" feature. I'm just figuring out the benefits of that. - James Hull
That happened to me about a month ago. I pledged to not FF during normal work hours. Only during lunch time during the week. Very hard addiction to kick though. All my other time is pretty much spent here inhaling meta from the firehose. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Late night is my downfall. I say to myself at 11PM, "You're tired. You have to get up at 5AM. Go to bed." At 1AM I'm still hitting the refresh button on FF. - Kevin Shannon
@Steve Rubel - let me know how that goes for you. I need to break my addiction as well. There should be a warning when you sign up: "WARNING: May be habit forming"! - JA Castillo
F5 = crack (saw this elsewhere and it is SO true!) LOL... disable your F5 key! (ok, don't do that, i wouldn't ask anyone to do something I wouldn't do myself) - Susan Beebe
Ok, let's all block Steve for one week! just jocking ;-) - Igor The Troll
Steve has LOTS of friends here...not sure what Paul's talkin' about? ;*) - Susan Beebe
steve, i will come by with a stungun - every hour if you have loaded ff or twitter, i will zap you 1 time per load- so you gotta ask yourself, are you feeling lucky ? - Allen Stern
Hey Allen, you could make good money on this new "feeling lucky" service you're offering to Steve! - Susan Beebe
There is probably some greasemonkey script floating around that will disable login till a set date and time? - Igor The Troll
Good luck with fighting your FriendFeed addiction, you need to blog how you are finding going cold turkey! Day two.... - Joe Dawson
@ Joe I aint going cold turkey. Just compartmentalizing it and using it more effectively. More to come. - Steve Rubel
friendfeed is the all you can eat buffett , twitter is a drive through @McD's - fotographic via twhirl
Best of luck, Steve. I check Friendfeed once in the morning and once in the afternoon, but I really check it, going back through numerous pages. That works for me. - Brent Newhall
I once blogged that a key to Facebook's success was that its users are not labeled Facebookers while those who blog are called bloggers. I guess the New York Times didn't catch my post, altho it's used to describe a founder. - Rex Hammock
I once blogged that a key to Facebook's success was that its users are not labeled Facebookers while those who blog are called bloggers. I guess the New York Times didn't catch my post, altho it's used to describe a founder. - Rex Hammock
“Confession of a Former Twitter Fiend: I never really like DMs. 140 characters is rarely enough for a one-on-one message. I'd rather people just email me, even if it's a short email.”
I agree. It was a pain in the butt to try to fit everything into 140 spaces - Andrew Shuping
agree. small utility. i just don't have everyone's email addys who I follow. Been wanting to compile. Oh yeah, I forgot the LinkedIn LSW group will let us export them all. Sweet. - Chadwick (InfoSciPhi)
DMs are sent to my phone, so it is a way to do SMS with a bunch of people for whom I don't have phone numbers. - Anna Creech
Okay not having the private DMs but kinda miss @reply notifcations - Abigail (Hedgehog Lib)
I like comments on FF much more than @ replies on Twitter. - Joshua M. Neff
I'm from the 'if you can't say in <140 characters, it's not worth saying' school. - Rex Hammock
They're in the process of losing me. Which is why I'm taking considerable time to integrate the ability to categorize and tag my FF likes and comments on my own blog - James Hull
The del.icio.us notes feature got a lot more useful because of Friendfeed. My del.icio.us notes finally have people to read them. So when I tag now, I tend to add commentary about the link for my subscribers here on Friendfeed. Smarter bookmarking. I also have several "conventions" that I use del.icio.us tags for. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
very much so. Yahoo had an early lock on social search. But then they just couldn't put the pieces together. Amazing to me really. - Thomas Hawk
The key seems to be, giving readers the ability to add meta info to a submission and then discuss that info, rather than just the submitter adding info like del.icio.us does. (edited for clarity) - Paul Short
I've always used the notes, partly just for myself, but also because I have pulled a feed from my bookmarks into my websites for a long long time now. I'm having more "fun" thinking about how to use Friendfeed better. - Laura Scott via Alert Thingy
Two questions 1) FriendFeed is basically for the short-term. --- liked a lot (with a little sadness) On the flip-side, should FriendFeed offer an option to categorize and save links and just crush Delicious to bits? 2) "save links / saves" - is that not "share something" ? --- - Kishore Balakrishnan
just another quotient of luck & timing ... & investor patience ... who owns the user-generated meta-data? kinda like who owns fan supplied data on pearl jam's ten.net ... just extended into other forums/granularities of interest (bandwidth) - Scott Moskowitz
I agree w/ Thomas Hawk - Y! couldn't put the pieces together. However, on the flip side, FriendFeed does not really have any pieces -- so will I really use this as my primary bookmarking tool or photo sharing service after I have 4,000+ bookmarks on delicious and 1500+ photos on Flickr? - Rex Hammock
Delicious has survived storms and even when Yahoo is not looking so good in business right now, I will hold my delicious account and of course keep pouring more info on Friendfeed... - TonNet
The bigger question in my mind is whether Outlook can be the FriendFeed to the mainstream? - Joe Fernandez
Delicious is pretty good at being delicious. It's got its niche. I love it, apart from the truly abysmal search - john conroy
Delicious is useful as a substitute for browser bookmarks to avoid syncing if you move between different computers or browsers. - Mike Cohen
It's a vague bookmark/like type action for me as well. BTW, I misuse "Hide" and it's become my "mark as read" button. I try to follow a "FriendFeed Zero" philosophy. :-) I wish that "Like" flagged items would pop back up for me whenever anyone commented on them, even after I've read/hidden them. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I don't think you're misuing "hide". I often use it as a pseudo-"mark as read" too. - Harvey Simmons
Steve , if FF has a feature that permits users to define tags and use them. IT will be very powerful. I am think along the lines of Labels /Tags similar to Gmail .. - Peter Dawson
I use it to say I like it, but sometimes I use it to bookmark something I want to have easy access to later on. - David Cook
Is there a way to see things you've liked as a list? - Bjorn Tipling
Bjorn, you can click on "likes" on the right side of your FF home page and see the list. - Trish Robinson
actually for some reason i never noticed the hide or more buttons. I also use like as an indication that I liked something, or sometimes as a bookmark. Ken when others comment on things I have commented on they do pop back up on my list. or else I am dreaming... - Ruth Ferguson
There's also a greasemonkey script that allows you to mark something as "later". It's really useful, if you don't have time to read something now. You get a later tab to go back and check it out. Plus it adds a "like" to the post as well. - Jason Toney
I use Twitter to show what I think is interesting and it shows up here. yes FF has the following activities: creator, critic, collector, joiner, spectator. - Jeremiah Owyang
I'd just like to point out that you can't see past your last 300 likes. Make sure that that bug doesn't bite you :) - Yuvi
in persian FF we are using the like as a form of "link recommandation". - mhmazidi
I use "FriendFeed Read Later" (greasemonkey script) for that - Sarah Perez
@Sarah I haven't seen that one, linkage? - Aaron Myers
@ Steve Rubel: I did this too and later found another way: First I opened a private room. Now if I want to "save" something, I click on "More" (on the same line with "Like" and "Hide") and "Reshare this entry" to put the content into my private room. I write a small comment with tags. - Yves Oesch
I created my own private room to which I save links, either from inside FriendFeed or from the web at large. Generally links that I want to return to for blogging purposes. - Hutch Carpenter
Hmm.. Sounds like it's going to attract all the problems that domain names have. Except you can't edit the redirect.. Hope it doesn't bring about loads of unused/unusable redirects. - Chris Chua
If you're looking for persistent redirects, you should go to purl.org -- much better for long-term assurance and maintenance - Edd Dumbill via twhirl
i got a dollar bet that jeremiah makes this into a social media post :) - Allen Stern
I got a dollar bet that your response makes Techmeme and mine doesn't. :-) - Louis Gray
It's all Matthew - he's the social media king! I am so glad I won the bidding war over that other tech blog for his services and locked him into a 30 yr contract. - Allen Stern
I tried to be cute and twitter a link to your post via: tinyurl/a-louis-gray-post but twitter truncated the url so my tweet one-liner got stepped on. - Rex Hammock
snipurl had it for ages, and is shorter with snurl.com, so what's the big deal? - Niv
Crazy isn't the word I'd use. Disrespectful, careless, self-entitled, irresponsible... Yep, somehow I've become a cranky old bastard. GET AWF MUH LAWN. - Akiva Moskovitz
Back in the 70's and 80's we had to settle for the odd apartment complex or motel and it was always with the sneakers tied-on tightly since we'd be chased out just as quickly as we entered. I've recorded some more thoughts on the subject here: http://snipurl.com/swimkid - Christopher Harley
I agree with @Leo - this is a made up story. And why are they calling it a "Facebook" craze, when it's Google Maps that makes it possible? - Rex Hammock
Why is it that only the British flip out over this stuff as full-fledged phenomenon that need to be stopped, probably with more cameras and monitoring of Facebook. - Andrew Feinberg
yeah, it seems like every other story is fake these days or some kind of viral marking ploy - Scott Beale
never needed facebook or google maps to do this. In my home town we would gather at a Mcdonalds to review a very good aerial photo that hung on a wall for empty swimming pools in 1975 for skateboarding. The media has nothing better to report on? - Jerry Schuman
@Rex because Google Maps doesn't have a messaging component? - Adam Turetzky
Is this a hoax like using Bluetooth to hook up with people on the tube: "toothing"? - Cote'
And what a great use of technology. I love how people become alarmed when someone utilizes something new for a purpose it's inventor didn't think of and it then upsets people. Sorta like searching Google for phonebooks inadvertently shared online ("phonebook" filetype:xls) or looking for Mac computers with Personal File Sharing turned on by searching the first sentence of the default page that's displayed. - Adam Turetzky
People should learn to lock their gates. Maybe set up a fake security camera (convenience stores do this all the time, and it works). Maybe get a dog, or a motion-detector linked to an extra-loud recording of a dog.
That aside, I agree there rotten punks are quite disrespectful. - Ivan via fftogo
This sort of thing won't be a problem if not for the fact that if there is a "dipping" party and a drunken idiot drowns, the owner, who didn't want them there in the first place, would be sued. Life would be more fun without the lawyers. - Robert Hafer
Disrespectful indeed. Wait until the owner has guard dogs. - Justin Rains
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Man, single malt scotch in a ganache. That's genius. - Mark Trapp
Is that *your* middle daughter? I think *1* is one too many. I thot you Canadians were more beer drinkers. ; ) eh? - Rex Hammock
I find the different interpretations of that tweet interesting. Mine is that he's hanging out with a friend's family, the middle daughter got tipsy and started flirting with him, and her mom-n-dad had to reign her in. Ah, the stories you can construct from a snippet of thought... - Roger Benningfield
just to clarify, it was my daughter who had one too many, and me who had to have the awkward conversation :-) - mathew ingram
I have been receiving invites from a lot of people i dont know on LinkedIn .... - Jassim
I feel like I'm missing a central "address book" for all these services and each service requires I follow all the same people all over again. - Sergio Cruz
What's Facebook? You mean that social media site that was popular in early 2008? - Jason Theodor
Be Like Me UN-Famous ! As a member of the Unwashed I only have received one request An SEO Nerd who wanted to me me famous ! - marshal sandler
this is because of their recommendation system...happens to many of us - ouriel
I get LinkedIn contact requests from people with Yahoo.com addresses. Twittermarkerters try to Follow me everyday, so now feedless folks want to jump into Friendfeed. - paul mooney
Vicious cycle of socnets ...augh! I get some weird folks trying to "friend" me up on FB - run, Nooooes!!! - Susan Beebe
Maybe they are Alien Zombies who want to clone you? LOL - Igor The Troll
I don't see a problem. It takes me two seconds to research someone on the Internet and find out if they're interesting... If so, I'll gladly be their 'friend' - I've met a lot of great people this way. - Vince DeGeorge
Steve - Have to agree with Vince. 30 seconds to see if someone can be a benefit, interesting or just fun. Of everyone I've green lighted, I only had to stop two. You never know who has the next interesting story or product. - Charlie Anzman
That is what I do. The other day Britney Spears started following me. After clicking on their profile and finding out it was some fruitcake, I decided not to follow them. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
Illustrates the circles of friend-ness in the mediums - following on Twitter/FF/Digg is viewed to be not as intimate as a being connected in Facebook where LinkedIn is just a research system for a job... - Todd Bremner
There are some people who are simply stretching out, following new folks for new influences. They're not all spammers and stalkers. - Chris Baskind
I recently felt weird about that too, but instead changed my strategy for how I use Facebook. Instead of denying contacts, I've just changed/deleted my personal info like my street address and private data, etc. SO now I can participate with anyone there that wants to participate with me, without worry. - Andrew Baron
@AndrewBaron - That's a great point. Though there is a strange dichotomy between the site as a friend book or a networking site ... - David Weiner
I have a limited view friend list and if the person seems reasonable, ie a non spam mer, and like they have a reason to want to link, I will add them in that category. means there is not that much to see, tho. For me FB is a good contact manager for less professional associations than linked in. - susan mernit
What would it take to make this "centralized address book" that Sergio talks about? will something on top of OpenID do it? - jonathan
I reserve Facebook for people I know. I turn down a lot of FB requests. But if they are a FOAF or someone interesting, I include a note explaining how I use FB and suggest we connect on Twitter or FriendFeed. - Ryan Kuder
Steve, those of us who experiment w/ all these platforms need to discuss how we're using each. I'm like you, I don't follow via FF as many as I do other ways. But at times find it redundant to twitter. I'm still trying to figure out exactly where I want to stamp out redundancy and where redundancy makes sense. - Rex Hammock
it would be much better if they actually wrote a brief note in the friend request and told you why they wanted to be your friend and a bit about themselves. Just because you don't know them does not mean you should not. ;) - Rodney Rumford
Since when do you have to know someone to friend them on a social network. That's just crazy talk. - Bwana McCall
I think it's that Facebook doesn't allow you to "subscribe" to people you don't know, so you have to "friend" them instead to see what they're up to. Steve, you're just popular and people want to know what you're up to and they're just not early enough adopters to know about friendfeed. Come to think of it WHY ISN'T FACEBOOK API'd into FF? - Chris Aldrich
I use the same rule on Facebook and experiencing several friend req's per day as well. If I don't remotely know you I don't accept you on FB - James Andrews
ask for a fans page like I did, they can just add you, you don't have to add them - Loic Le Meur
I find that sort of reasoning a little odd...the whole point of all of these networking tools is to broaden your network. If I don't know someone, I let them prove their worth to me. It's easy enough to delete a contact or block a follower later on. - Justin Whitaker
I turn down many because I DO know who they are... - Tim Wright
Whatcha gonna do with the Great Unwashed? ;-) - Chris Baskind
I don't have a problem with strangers, but I really do not like it if they pollute the newsfeed. They can do that on Twitter/FF, potentially, Facebook is reserved for the people I know. - Vincent van Wylick via fftogo
A stranger walks by and says hello. You ignore them because you don't know them. Is that social? - LPH
@LPH In NYC yes because 9 times out of 10 they're either going to try to rob you, beg from you, or scam you. I think the same rules can be safely applied to the internet. - Erica Baker
The rule for Facebook used to be: if you walked by the person on the street, would you say hello? Yes, they are your friend. No, reject. People seem to have lost that as the site scaled and now think it is MySpace. - Nicholas Molnar
Just an interesting question here! How can you know if someone is interesting or not if you have blocked them on Friend Feed not based on your interaction with them, but just because a power user has bocked them? Can you answer this for me? - Igor The Troll
Many people who request to add me as a friend I really don't know personally but we've met on some social sites and I only know their nicknames over there which are often not their real names (that they are presented with on Facebook). So when I send a request to such a "social network" connection myself, I invariably add an explanation like "It's Svetlana, we are connected on..." - and I expect the same courtesy from others. I don't think it takes much time to add a short note. - Svetlana Gladkova
I stand corrected. Steve, your right. Safari does NOT sync History. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
I use LaterLoop. I added the LaterLoop bookmarklet to Safari. When you sync the iPhone that bookmarklet still works for your LaterLoop account. When following gReader links to source sites, I LaterLoop them for easier reading on my desktop or even offline on my MBAir via FF and Gears. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
I use opera mini on my W610i in sync with my opera account. Shame i cant use the bookmarklet, sometimes i wonder why there is so much hype about this 3G Iphone,when most other phone at least in europe are all 3G,i'll wait for some cute android phone to move somewhere else ;-) - Ben Borges via fftogo
I use opera mini on my W610i in sync with my opera account. Shame i cant use the bookmarklet, sometimes i wonder why there is so much hype about this 3G Iphone,when most other phone at least in europe are all 3G,i'll wait for some cute android phone to move somewhere else ;-) - Ben Borges via fftogo
@SteveRubel, can you share the link? I can't find one that works... - David Weiner
One of the best things about using Safari. Everything syncs across multiples Macs & iPhone. - Tom Wentworth
Thanks, Steve. Try searching for it and see how much junk pops up! - David Weiner
Steve, is your iPhone jailbroken? If not, I failed the bookmarklet on the iPhone IQ test. How do I drag it to the iPhone safari browser's toolbar? And once I pass that test, how do I highlight text to share? - Robert Seidman
I can't get it to work on the iphone yet ... trying to do it manually. - David Weiner
Hopefully one day Mozilla will make this possible with Weave. -
