I think I've used it once. - Bryan Person

Nope. I use Camino for the rare instances of opening Facebook and chat is mercifully "not compatible with the browser you are using." - Cyndy

digsby connects to it, that's the only way I've ever used it - acedanger

Adium has support for it. But who wants to chat with 400 "friends"? - Panayotis Vryonis

Never, I have not had a need or reason to try it, a little too late to change my existing behaviors. - Jon Erickson

No. I even blocked it for awhile with a greasemonkey script! - Sarah Perez

Never. What's the point of using it? - Sasha Kovaliov via twhirl

Like others have said, once there's (non-beta) support for it in Adium, XMPP, or whatever that means I can use it in my normal IM, I'm all for it. - Cote'

what isn’t to like? I get the feeling you don’t want communication… if so… go watch television. - Noah David Simon

Noah David Simon, I don't know what you mean. I haven't owned a television in 10+ years, but I hear that many people IM while they watch TV! - Marshall Kirkpatrick

I used FB chat to talk to people I hadn't talked to in years. Then I stopped when it occurred to me that I didn't really care. - Dan Kaplan

where you just watching TV now Marshall, because I think I was pretty clear. I'm on facebook and friendfeed to communicate... not a vanity feed - Noah David Simon

I rarely use the chat, I use the chat popup just to see who is online! - Joe Dawson

I've never used it. Don't even know how to find it. - David Parmet via twhirl

No. Why chat in FB in the first place? - Nikos Anagnostou

Oo, - Patrick Veverka

I have, I use it through the current Adium beta all the time. I really like it. - Tony

I've used it. It's a little buggy and works intermittenly. - Larry Kless via twhirl

yes, its built into Adium. I probably use it more than MSN already because EVERYONE I know is on Facebook. - Jamie

I see the chat as just the beginning, especially as there is a Facebook tab in my Live Messenger! - Joe Dawson

well - I feel like the answer is pretty clear. some people use Facebook chat a lot. Others not at all. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Nope... but then I don't use IM at all anyway. - Richard Bradshaw

Yes and it freaks people out. - Mary Anne Davis

I only use Facebook to communicate with old people who don't use Twitter and FriendFeed. Also; Facebook has chat?! ;-) - Josh Bancroft

facebook is boring. - Thomas Hawk

used it a little bit - Jeff Quinton

i use it with digsby. Works for me. - Baard Overgaard Hansen

No; Facebook is blocked @work and I have better things to do @home - Alexei Tolkachev

Same as Alexei! - Rubin

Once a month. I use the Foxkeh wallpapers from Mozilla Japan. Cute AND geeky! Http://www.foxkeh.com - Josh Bancroft

I get some great wallpapers from http://www.deviantart.com/ + http://interfacelift.com/ + http://macthemes2.net/ - John Samuelson

I've changed my wallpaper when the new NIN album came out, but I've seldom looked at it. It's all covered in windows (er, not Windows), all the time. - Zio Bonino

I change mine once a month or so. As for where to get imagery, try this thread from a couple weeks ago... http://friendfeed.com/e/75a460... - JA Castillo

About 1 time a year - Igor Poltavskiy

I change it when I find an image I like better than the one I have, I rarely look for wallpapers - Michele Campeotto

I change my wallpaper every week with my little daughter's photo. - FlaviaPM

You're all crazy if you're not running http://desktoptopia.com/ on Windows or OS X. - l0ckergn0me

I alternate pictures of my 16 months old nephew and pics of Chris Paterson (btw, at the moment I have CP kicking a penalty on this computer)... ;) - giorgia

Wallpaper images most often come courtesy of the genius of Trey Ratcliffe - Stuck in Customs. - Stephen Pierzchala

A few times a year. I find images on National Geographic or from movie websites. Right now I have Kung Fu Panda :) - Rachel Rubin

once a year, usually photos of my family - Erik via twhirl

interesting q - i reckon I change it 3-4 times a year once probably in the summer and again in the winter - the other 2 are probably more adhoc - riaz

I don't use wallpaper - just set it to a pleasant color. I'm not sure how different OSes handle it - if they're smart they'd get it stored onto video memory but otherwise it's gonna take up my precious RAM. - Wil

I change mine almost every day. Most of the images come from flickr wallpaper groups or interfacelift/deviantart.. - Robert Occhialini

I change it every couple of months, using some image I like from my Flickr stream - Aaron B. Hockley

I don't change backgrounds often, probably once a year or more seldom. Most of the time they're covered in windows (though with transparent backgrounds... with other windows behind), so it doesn't really matter much. My current wallpaper is something my friend drew in Photoshop. =) - Daniel Bruce

maybe every 2 months or so. I use Images of the Day from Wikipedia typically for my images. - Tim Cooper

one time a month, with the stunning calendar wallpapers that you find on Smashing Magazine. - Federico Fasce via twhirl

Depends on how often I get bored with my current. Anywhere from once a week to once a month. Often I use pictures I've taken, but currently I'm using one from Hamad's Vista Wallpaper Pack - Margaret Kerr via twhirl

almost every day, via DeskLickr on a Mac - Giovanni De Stefano

About once a month or more, depending on how the mood strikes me. I either use my own photography or wallpaper that I find on the web. - Jason Shultz

My wallpaper changes every 20 minutes via Desktoptopia on OS X - Andru Edwards

Often and I get mine from Digital Blasphemy - I have a subscription but there are soem free ones there as well: http://www.digitalblasphemy.co... - Dave Gray via twhirl

Interesting question. About twice a year maybe. Been a fan of http://mandolux.com/ Good to have a nice background for a little personality, but really, I spend more time staring at open windows than I do at the background or screensavers. - Mike D. Johnson

several times a day...j/k... from iPhoto - Metin

Weekly, monthly or depending on my mood.. Pics could be fm anywhere, mostly those taken by me, though.. - Atul Karmarkar

desktoptopia has sponsored wallpaper feeds. Only movies for the moment but it annoys me. Uninstalled. - John Samuelson

I just installed Desktoptopia and used the default settings... liking it so far! - Michael Garrison via twhirl

I never see the wallpaper because i have multiple applications open, so i set the desktop 30% grey. - Mário Pires

About every three months. I always use NASA/Hubble images. - Diane Ensey

Not often. NASA images work great for me http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia... - Andrew Smith

Weekly or monthly, sometimes they are art for a current project, or a band, game, or webcomic. the Looking for Group desktops are great. - Eric Dorsett

I don't use wallpaper. - Russellreno

I change it every couple of months, either at home and at work, and most of them come from deviantart (petercui is one of my favorite wp designers) - João Almeida

Every 1-2 weeks, using NASA, science or sports images depending on my mood - Sally Church

I use Comic Book wallpaper (most often from DC Comics) but lately I've been enjoying the Wallpaper Project: http://kitsunenoir.com/blog/dw... - i switched tot he Ryan Cox image just this morning. - Jason Toney

Havent changed in 6 months. I usually just change when I find a better one. Oh and I use the same wallpaper on all my pcs. - Roberto Bonini

I change mine whenever the feeling hits me. And I get them from all over the place. My current: http://www.mandolux.com/archiv... - Harvey Simmons

From ffffound.com... VERY rarely I use a full screen wp. Instead, I center a small image and use the background color to fill up the rest. - Claudio Cicali

never - Wolfgang Luenenbuerger via twhirl

Ive been using desktoptopia lately... also big fan of mandolux and ffffound when Im in the mood for something specific. - Bailey

On Mac DeskLickr Flickr Interestingness or other cool tags & groups every hour - Roger Penguino

@Kawika: The mashup you're talking about can happen possibly only after they allow users to view more than 300 items (try going past page 11) - Yuvi

The official tumblr blog wasn't a tumblelog until like a month ago. I think sometimes a startup goes with what they know, and what's free, and migrate later. I think it's a great idea though, to have a friendfeed-powered support group. - J. Phil

Ha! We are ahead of the curve then. :) The official Profy product blog has been on the platform since the get-go. I think most companies still need to maintain an off-site blog for communicating outages, etc., however. - Cyndy

FF made use of the two Google groups long before Rooms were introduced, let's not forget that. - Aviv

Cyndy - correct. Remember what happened to that anti-spam company that had its blog on wordpress.com? They were DDOSed and they updated all there A refs to their WP blog. Pissed a bunch of people off, but wordpress.com didn't go down. What was it? Blue Turtle or something? - J. Phil

I don't understand this: Where does the discussion say they don't use their own product? Because some random guy (Earle Martin doesn't work for Friendfeed) wanted you to use Google Groups? Friendfeed consistently listens to feedback and what people are saying on Friendfeed, Bret, Ana, Paul, and the others are very active users, there are rooms, set up by Friendfeed, specifically for bugs and feedback... so, huh? - Mark Trapp

Mark, sorry I didn't know that. I've been posting comments about FriendFeed in various threads, even some started by FF people, and have never received any feedback or confirmation, and none have been implemented. I had a feeling they were getting feedback elsewhere but didn't know about the Google group (wouldn't have mattered, I don't use GG, I use FF at least for now). Gotta say the response to this has been pretty hostile. Do you work for the company? (Hard to know cause there are no profile pages.) - Dave Winer

Its not that different to those companies using getsatisfaction - use the best tools for the job and all that.. admittedly google groups is not what I would call the best tool for the job though! Looks like Mark doesnt work for friendfeed assuming his Linkedin profile is upto date ;) - riaz

i can't ding them for not using their product the way some folks do - they are developing a platform so hopefully focused on that mostly but more importantly everyone uses social tools differently - some read & some engage - i think that ff shows great potential and hope they keep doing exactly what they're doing - mike "glemak" dunn

Dave, I don't work for Friendfeed. I haven't had the same experience as you: features like Block, show all likes, rooms, the services that have been added, feeds in rooms, changeable room pictures, multiple room administrators, are all features that were acknowledged on Friendfeed by Friendfeed and later implemented. I'm a nobody, and have had Paul acknowledge a few problems I've seen with Friendfeed, and work out debugging them to see what was happening. - Mark Trapp

Are Paul Buchheit, Kevin Fox, or Bret Taylor following you David? If not, they're probably not seeing your feedback, especially if you're only putting it in comments to other people's posts. They do read the Friendfeed Feedback room (even if they don't comment): maybe that's the best place to put your comments. You're a superstar: creating threads specifically for problems you have with Friendfeed is definitely going to get attention. - Mark Trapp

I agree with Mark. The FriendFeed engineers have been very active here. I agree that it could be a bit more organized, so you could see those interactions, but that's true of everything here on FF. - Robert Scoble

dave: see mark's linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/... - that's what i look at for most folks - hover over a user name and the window that opens up shows all their inbound feed info - a richer profile on ff would be nice but if folks link to one that already does a good job don't think its that big a deal - the web doesn't need more disparate profile locations imho - mike "glemak" dunn

There is Friendfeed feedback room. It works. They listen. @Cyndy You're always ahead of the curve :) Nice job Mark (and no, I don't work for FF either, just LOVE it - Charlie Anzman

Mark, I'm glad they're listening to you. I love the block command. I'm not likely to use rooms. I don't know if they're following me, I don't keep close tabs on that. But I have tried to leave ideas and questions in places I think they watch. I basically have what I want now, though they could have saved me a bit of time by pointing me to the API (I was trying to make what I was doing work with feeds). I had some ideas for them, but I still don't know where to put them. (And I'm not using GG.) - Dave Winer

Scoble, glad they listen to you too. You have good ideas. - Dave Winer

Dave, here's an example of a feature request I submitted that got read by Paul Bucheit (he "Liked" it) and was recently added. http://friendfeed.com/e/734c9a... - Mark Krynsky

Dave, I understand: they're not transparent in how they prioritize feature requests or bugs (things like Block were added shortly after people really started asking for it, but the 300-item limit for going back in time issue that Yuvi's been championing for months still goes unfixed), but they tend to be pretty good about acting on Feedback. My only suggestion is that in the future, try using the Friendfeed Feedback room (http://friendfeed.com/rooms/fr...) People at Friendfeed are reading it. - Mark Trapp

Although Dave, I wouldn't be surprised if this thread here causes them to start following what you say and do more closely :-) - Mark Trapp

@Mike: I'm popping up everywhere (including the FF Feedback Room, and the Google Group) and shouting about the 300 items limit. Still unfixed :( It was acknowledged at the Google Group, but that was almost 2 months ago. No fix yet. :( - Yuvi

Yuvi, I'm pretty sure they're aware of your request. As you well know, there's a workaround. I'm glad they're prioritizing more important stuff. - Jake

@Jake: Err, what workaround? I don't know any.... - Yuvi

Yep, I agree to the "prioritizing" part. Just that they need to fix this too. - Yuvi

@Mark Trapp: Huh, er, what? Oh, right, I just saw Dave's reply to my comment on that item. I forget who pointed me to the Google group; it was before rooms had been implemented, and appeared to be "the" destination for support. - Earle Martin

Dave: sorry you feel that we have been unresponsive. We are transitioning from using the Google Group to the FriendFeed room (http://friendfeed.com/rooms/fr...). As others have mentioned, Rooms did not exist when the product launched, so that is the reason both exist. For private things (stuff you don't want others to read), email feedback@friendfeed.com. We certainly try to be responsive, and we appreciate your feedback. - Bret Taylor

Bret, I'm sorry you feel that way too! I've tried to be a good user and developer, but clearly I've not been doing my job very well. I'll try harder. Thanks for the feedback. - Dave Winer

FF has been very responsive to feedback and I'm an average schmo compared to you. I've had prompt responses (and followup) from both Ana and Ross. Ana even responded while working on Obama campaign in Michigan. Dave, now that you've been corrected...write a post on your wonderful blog (go badgers!) - Pokai

Pokai, I don't understand exactly what I've been doing wrong. I've asked a few questions and made a few suggestions. At the risk of breaking protocol, I'd like ask some right now, while we have Bret's attention. How often does FF poll feeds? Does it observe <ttl>? Any thought of a weblogs.com type ping server? Why are RSS descriptions ignored? How about OPML reading list support? A few items that I've asked about.. - Dave Winer

Dave: ha! I did not intend my message to imply you have been doing something wrong. If we didn't respond your feedback or it wasn't clear where to send feedback, it is our fault of course. I just wanted to chime in with the best forums currently, but I am reading this thread closely, and I promise you we will update our procedures based on the feedback from this thread and others. - Bret Taylor

Dave, I'm sure FF is thinking (and working) on those issues. They may not be ready to answer them yet or give any kind of timetable to a high profile blogger. Now that Scoble is trying to take over DC, get a Nokia N95 camera (Qik video) and go visit the new FF headquarters with your questions. I'm sure they'd let you in, and all of us FFers would love to see it. Plus you'd probably get more followers. - Pokai

Answers to your questions: We poll feeds every 20 - 45 minutes depending on time of day. We do not currently observe TTL in feeds. We have put some thought into a producing ping server (we currently use a number of ping servers to get updates more quickly). Can you clarify your RSS descriptions issue? Do you want them passed through the feeds to the other side, or displayed in the UI somewhere? OPML is also on "the list," but has been prioritized lower than other issues to date (sorry about that). - Bret Taylor

Thanks for the responses. I don't care so much about the pass-through (though obviously it should be passed through). The use-case is http://friendfeed.com/newsjunk -- at first it was an RSS feed but it didn't update frequently enough (new items can appear every three minutes) and didn't pick up the descriptions. It finally occurred to me that using the API might give a better response and it did. - Dave Winer

To be clear OPML reading lists are like feeds, when an item drops off the list you stop polling it when an item comes on you start polling. Also it seems to me that the polling period ought to be a function of the frequency of updates of the feed. You clearly poll Flickr much more frequently as well as Twitter. Why view user feeds as lower priority? - Dave Winer

Also, which ping servers do you use? (That could address the frequency of update issue.) - Dave Winer

They don't dogfood? BAD, BAD FF! - Ryan

Yuvi's "page 11" (399 item limit with "num=100") bug hasn't been fixed since acknowledged on May 6. My guess is either (1) it's a major overhaul (2) they're worrried about increasing loads too high. With a lot of people now in the 2,000-12,000 comments/likes range, only being able to see the first 3-5% is a pain. In the everyone feed, I can only see the last 1-2 hrs of Flickrs. It would be nice to see the last 24-48 hrs, so I don't miss things while sleeping. - Mitchell Tsai