I have had this exact thought many times, and keep hoping that eventually everything will be 24 hours... As a long time night owl, it is extremely frustrating that nothing is open when I am most awake and available. It isn't just stores, I tend to do all my personal financial stuff (banking, bill-paying, etc) late at night, and always get stuck and frustrated if I need to make any related phone calls and I have to wait for M-F 8-5.
- Rich Bragg
No. I grew up in a small town where the walmart was closed on Sundays and you couldn't get a hamburger after 9pm. I now live in Houston and miss the slower lifestyle.
- Hunter
"I think it is often easier to make progress on mega-ambitious dreams. I know that sounds completely nuts. But, since no one else is crazy enough to do it, you have little competition. There are so few people this crazy that I feel like I know them all by first name. They all travel as if they are pack dogs and stick to each other like glue. The best people want to work the big challenges. That is what happened with Google. Our mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. How can that not get you excited? But we almost didn't start Google because my co-founder Sergey and I were too worried about dropping out of our Ph.D. program. You are probably on the right track if you feel like a sidewalk worm during a rainstorm! ... What is the one sentence summary of how you change the world? Always work hard on something uncomfortably exciting!"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Priceless closing quote from Larry: "Just like me, your families brought you here, and you brought them here. Please keep them close and remember: they are what really matters in life."
- Victor Panlilio
That was a surprisingly emotional speech! I like and greatly admire Larry and have spoken with him a few times inside and outside of meetings, but have never seen that side of him before :).
- Adam Lasnik
The sound comes back at "my brother". On Youtube, all video uploaders can "replace audio track", so I guess that Google will use that feature as soon as they find an audio recording and make sure that it is trimmed correctly so it will play in synch.
- Charbax
"These are Digigrade leg extensions. They are made of steel and add 14 inches of height to the wearer. But these are not ordinary stilts; they give a person the uncanny and graceful appearance of an animal. The movement of the legs is genuinely graceful and naturalistic. It is a great deal of fun being so much taller." (YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch...)
- Stephen Mack
from Bookmarklet
I have been a post-it note user for years, and Tasks on the iPhone finally got me to switch. It has come in really handy for shopping lists and notes to myself about things I need to discuss with people when I see them.
- Keith Coleman
from Bookmarklet
You should write an iPhone app that does voice recording and then sends it off to google for voice2text and immediately adds it to the task list. I usually think of tasks while driving, and it's difficult to type on the iPhone without bumping into the other cars.
- Paul Buchheit
'"Many people use their email inbox to store notes, reminders, or to do lists. Denote makes this simple and easy on the iPhone and iPod Touch. Use Denote to capture a thought that is keeping you awake or save a brilliant brainstorm before it is forgotten. By getting ideas out of your mind and into your inbox as quickly as possible, Denote frees your attention back to the moment at hand....
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- Michael Muller
I tried jott a long time ago. Making a phone call was just too slow. April tried their iPhone app and had some kind of problem with it, so I never bothered. Being integrated with Gmail is kind of a big plus too.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul That was my first feature request when I first got wind of Tasks. :) I don't think I'm allowed to post the teams response.
- EricaJoy
I like webnotes for putting marking websites i want to return to again and again.
- Lorraine Ball
"Most of the keys are made from real Scrabble tiles that were all hand-beveled (truly an exercise in patience/masochism!) and built onto a USB, clicky, mechanical-switch keyboard."
- Corie
from Bookmarklet
I am terrible at scrabble, and I've got a pretty big vocabulary. I've just never been good at word jumbles.. Its hard to look at a random group of letters and make words out it.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
It may be hard for normal humans like you and me, Sean, for Corie, it is painfully simple. :p
- Bren, Photophobe
Love the glowing scroll, number and caps lock keys!
- Rebecca Sun
Most overnight successes take an Alaskan winter.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Great post, Paul. One of the running themes of a lot of the posts yesterday seemed to come from "well, it's been a year: FriendFeed should be in a much different place," but great things take time to do.
- Mark Trapp
Scott Berkun wrote a really fine book entitled "the myths of innovaiton" (http://www.amazon.com/Myths-I...). He points out that perhaps the greatest myth of innovation is that the innovation arrives in it's entirety in a single moment in time. Essentially that the innovation was a single flash of insight and execution. The reality is it comes piecemeal over time.
- Brian Roy
Nice Paul, there are a whole boatload of startup / project myths I wish we could bust. The "overnight success" is one of the worst.
- mikepk
Brain, exactly, and the myth there is the "one idea" that precipitates success drives me crazy too. I wrote a post (and reposted it a few months ago) about this one. http://mikepk.com/2008...
- mikepk
excellent Paul and while I have expressed my thoughts before I just may take you up on the "post your ideas"
- Steven Hodson
Amen!! Peeps tend to see "web celebs," for example, once they're up there ... but no one sees the *years* of hard work prior! I like to say I'm an overnight success 10 years in the making!! :)
- Mari Smith
Another interesting effect is that the VC cycle is predicated on hyper growth and 2 to 5 year return on investment. That helps push some ideas to failure even though, if given a more natural growth curve, they might have succeeded.
- mikepk
+1 Mikepk - VC funding creates a hyper-focus on geometric growth instead of creating a sustainable company... Those two are NOT the same thing.
- Brian Roy
Hyper-growth is dangerous because it forces a lot of short term moves, such as hiring the wrong people because you need them _now_. I suspect that better companies come out of busts than booms because they are able to grow at a reasonable pace.
- Paul Buchheit
Epitome of why I love, trust, and believe in FriendFeed. Classy, Paul and thank you for sharing with the community.
- Mona Nomura
Tell me about it. I got the arrows in my back to prove it. :-)
- Dave Winer
Nice summary, Paul. As I mentioned in a comment on the post, it's clear you understand we care, and that we didn't intend to open the door for those clamoring for you to fail - but it was a natural result.
- Louis Gray
"Once we launched, the response was surprisingly positive, except from the people who hated it for a variety of reasons. "
- Clare Dibble
Although I have a love-hate affair with FriendFeed and my interest periodically peaks and wanes, Confucius says 'never trust a man who wears a beret the wrong way round'.
- Andy C
@Paul - "Yes, technically you're doing my work for me, but it's mutually beneficial because we'll do our best to create a product that you like". Was this supposed to be an indirect response to Dave W asking you to pay him consulting for his ideas?
- kartik vaithyanathan
So true. People think that from registering a domain to becoming a millonaire takes 1 idea and a couple of months. It took our company 10-years to do something "successful".
- Martin Añazco
Been around this block a few times myself Paul. There is a pheneomenon out there around second ventures after the first was a winner. Let's have a talk about this over a beer after the outcome of FF is known. And also, I wouldn't necessarily count on the experience of selling a "product" inside a juggernaut like Google as being the same thing as making something work in the blogosphere or where ever it is FF is supposed to be planted.
- Dave Winer
One more thing -- you're a very good writer -- but there's something else that isn't in your post. The odds against all startups are overwhelmingly against them. Ask Ev about Odeo someday. Your post is remarkably like the things he was writing about that product. And like the stuff I was saying after my company's IPO and was starting my second company. Unfortunately this was before blogs, so you'll have to take my word for it. I didn't really consider the possibility of failure. And of course we did fail.
- Dave Winer
Great post Paul. Too many companies (see Webvan and slew of others) thought rapid growth was enough. But good businesses grow slowly, even on the Internet.
- AJ Kohn
Nice post and great perspective. Nice position to be able to compare your own gmail experience to your FF experience.
- Bankwatch
The comments on your blog are awesome, e.g. "Gmail would be a lot better if it allowed registration of usernames < 6 characters wide." Proposed reply, "Oh, you can, but every single one has already been taken"
- j1m
I commented in the post, but I saw a comment in FriendFeed that noted how another well-known service had a well-executed marketing introduction, followed by rapid growth, followed by severe technical failures. Not to imply that one growth model is always right and another one is always wrong (plus, that company solved its technical issues).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Paul, keep up the good fight to properly manage FF for optimal growth, scalability and integration of features. Rushed products typically fail. However, a healthy burn rate is good too. Release timely updates in response to user demand. There are some important UIX features that should be released soon as users are clamoring for ease of use features and FF could risk losing more users if these basic UI features are not implemented within a reasonable amount of time. Good Luck! :)
- Susan Beebe
I commented over at the post. Really nice entry, with great perspective.
- Martha
Paul: I've read this post three times and it's a work of art. Thank you and thank you for creating a service that has addicted me for almost a year now.
- Robert Scoble
Not to one up Scoble, but it's the service itself that is the work of art.
- Jim Hearts FF
i appreciate this blended perspective. today i am dealing with the often elusive "balancing" objective, i.e., what is an acceptable pace towards those "goals posts", while honoring the organic nature of the quest!
- Gregg
Paul, I think FriendFeed is the best thing that I saw in 2008 on the web. It is still rough and needs to figure out how to best reel in the casual user, but there is so much promise in this service. The core of it is so powerful really and you guys are months if not years ahead of anyone else working in this area right now. Good luck to you and your team!
- Thomas Hawk
+1 Thomas! Couldn't agree more... keep up great work FF team!! :)
- Susan Beebe
"The merry band of entrepreneurs behind FriendFeed transformed the online service into "FestivusFeed" last year to celebrate the faux Christmastime holiday that became famous on an episode of "Seinfeld." Instead of posting comments, FriendFeed users were invited to air grievances. So, in the spirit of the season, FriendFeed founder Paul Buchheit griped: "Festivus is being co-opted by profit-seeking corporations, and we're losing the true spirit of the holiday.""
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
So we've gotten to the point where one of Paul's offhand remarks in his status message are being turned into articles in the LA Times? When does the film version come out? Who will play Paul? I guess Seth Rogan?
- j1m
It's strange how the author interviewed Paul and Wil Wheaton, yet the article comes off as completely serious. Is she unable to detect sarcasm?
- Gabe
I want to play Tudor Bosman in the film version. His "Just to be clear" comment will get way more laughs than Paul's subtle irony.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
you do realize this is 'correct'? i thinks it's because at some point the h wasn't pronounced?
- j1m
But the removal of the h seems to make even less sense...what other words change with an and a usage?
- Adam Kazwell
From "The Elephants of Style":For choosing a or an, spelling doesn't matter; pronunciation does. A is for consonant sounds; an is for vowel sounds. The ever-popular an historic is incorrect, at least for American speakers, because historic does not begin with a vowel sound. Even those Americans who say "an istoric" will admit that they say "historic," with the consonant h, when the word...
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- Adam Kazwell
"Seems rather benign, not unlike thousands of other ads you see every day. It’s not particularly well done, but if it didn’t make money it wouldn’t be out there. But there’s something else - I saw it, did a bit of a double take, and then looked again. The 35 pounds figure seems to be off, but more importantly, the body types of the two don’t quite seem to match up. Wait a second, what’s that on the right side of the slimmer girl? There’s a hint of yellow on the edge of the frame. Let’s cut out the pictures of the two girls, and then flip them around and put them beside each other. Well damn. Turns out that you just took a picture of two sisters, one slim, the other not so much, flipped it around, and then tried to pass it off as a weight loss ad."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
"Nexting." I like that term. I compulsively next an entire week, then get paralyzingly overwhelmed at the plethora of things I have to do, and wind up only accomplishing 10% of what I planned out. I'm interested to see what strategies work for you over the next few weeks/months. Oh God, did I just next not nexting?
- Mark Trapp
I think it is much more healthy to spend time thinking about the future than the past. Myself I am more of an eat whatever is around when I am hungry person like your husband. But my lack of planning means I miss out on activities and later regret the lack of planning.
- Brian Sullivan
"I clapped my hands over my ears and chanted, 'NA NA NA NA NA NA,' until I realized I was driving, and turned the radio volume down instead." :D
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Yoda had a lecture about always looking to the future, of course if would have planned ahead a little more we could have avoided that whole Empire thing
- RAPatton
Your description of how your husband thinks about eating vs. you is classic. Exactly describes my wife and me. Cereal for dinner? Not a problem!
- Hutch Carpenter
I think you're onto something: it's often a lot more relaxing to just stop and breathe and stop thinking about the future.
- j1m
I think I'm a NEXT-er and a LAST-er. The future and the past both seem more important than the now usually does.
- Wm Scott Rees
@Amit Patel Yeah, he was the mastermind behind blowing up the death stars and runs a terrorist training camp on Dagobah
- RAPatton
Isn't thinking about the future what's supposed to get us to drive Priuses and save for retirement? Americans seem to be accused alternately of being short-sighted and of being unable to focus on the moment. Maybe it's all about being smart about what to next and how much. For example, if you did plan your meals (or a default choice) on paper a week ahead of time, it might free you from having to think about it as much. Not that I could bring myself to do that.
- ⓞnor
I like the friendfeed comment widget on your blog.
- Shakeel Mahate
as my mind is just about ready to explode on some of those issues, thanks for linking it so I can get my mind back! ;)
- Nicole Simon
Fred: A great post. Here's one way we at The Star-Ledger are trying to use these tools to address some of Umair's points: http://www.nj.com/helpinghands. Basically, it's a platform for blogs by non-profits and volunteer organizations across New Jersey. A partnership with the United Way allows groups and volunteers to find each other through a searchable database of events, interests and opportunities.
- John Hassell
Revolutionary products often start out looking like toys, such as the PC. Of course that does not imply that all toys are revolutionary, but it's important to remember that the impact is not always obvious beforehand.
- Paul Buchheit
Incidentally, the line at the Shake Shack was awesomely short right after the rain storm ended ;-)
- j1m
I've noticed that 'likes' happen first and comments follow. I would speculate that the formula goes something like this: If a user finds an interesting item, they're more likely to 'like' it if it has few or no 'likes' yet. If there's an existing conversation, a user is more likely to add to the conversation. People are less likely to leave the first comment ('star the conversation') on...
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- Kevin Fox
Kevin, as a general rule, I comment when I know what to say or quote after reading a peice and I like when I don't.
- Clare Dibble
In a world where our media consumption is evermore occurring on an individual level (feed readers, Kindles, iPods vs the family radio and TV) humans still crave shared experiences. The same forces leaving me confident that the live music business will remain healthy for years help me understand the emotional value of endorsement of a FF post. Even if we discount a "like" to zero, I think it still serves as a sign of vitality and gives this service a pulse. Often it's just nice to know others are listening.
- Christopher Sacca
good post Fred. I personally have completely given up on "Web 2.0" as a term - it's just the Internet now (with Ajax, RSS, rounded corners, and "social" stuff). but I do think "Internet Ennui" is a recurring cycle, and considering the run we've had recently, we're probably closing in on another wave of it...
- Jeremy Toeman
Not everything has to be about social change. Sometimes, we just want a place to hang out and relax.
- Morton Fox
@Kevin - One thing I like about the friendfeed bookmarklet (and also feeds from delicious), is that you can include a comment right off the bat, which I think is more likely to spark a conversation. I think that having that first comment there might also entice people to read the link. @the article - I think this depends a little on how you define web 2.0. Is it the technology aspect (ajax, json, etc.) which allows websites to be more interactive, or is it the social aspect, or some combination.
- Robert Felty
john, i'm glad to hear it - good stuff. morton, the point is that more value can be created by solving bigger problems than just entertainment (in fact, hanging out can be part of the solution). fred, that was (really) a killer, eloquent post.
- umair
Looooong, but great read. I often felt at Google, on the sales side of things, we were so smart that we were stupid. I can't tell you how many meetings I sat through where simple solutions (and, probably, the right solutions!) were ignored because they sounded too simple. And we'd spend a full hour coming up with complicated, convoluted, confusing solutions because that's what smart...
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- Ginger Makela Riker
100-word version: "You're not as smart as you think you are. You need to find people way smarter and more effective than you. You can't find them with normal interviews. A six-month trial period might work, but what super smart person will stand for that? Your only real hope is that you've bumped into them some time in the past, or maybe you can find them by asking around. Good luck, and also I made up this weird phrase which doesn't help."
- ⓞnor
Ginger, thanks for sharing your experience at Google.
- Mike Reynolds
First page down, giving a Like for that. Continuing to read...
- Hutch Carpenter
Really great read, and a true take on the types of "smart" out there. Also, I liked this little add-on Steve had in the comments section: "The Dunning-Kruger Effect has a fourth principle that I didn't mention, which is that as your competence increases, your self-evaluation diminishes. The most competent people apparently tend to rate themselves below their skill level. " Interesting thought.
- Hutch Carpenter
The core of any good engineering culture is deeply allergic to unnecessary complexity. "Fancy" is a bad word; "complicated" is a really, really bad word. Design doc templates have a section asking you to explain why a simpler solution would work. Half my interviewers (having convinced themselves that I could code) were making sure that I wasn't the type to build giant rickety abominations. But a company like Google is too big for any single generalization to apply.
- ⓞnor
ⓞnor: "and also I made up this weird phrase which doesn't help" Ha! :)
- Bret Taylor
@nor if you do that for every Steve Yegge post you might have a high-traffic blog on your hands
- Jeremy Raines
@Ginger: I see that everywhere, not only in Sales… :(
- Amit Patel
very cool...that is probably why friendfeed is ramping so smoothly and getting intelligent new features vs. another nameless service that is having severe growing pains.
- Pokai
That's excellent hiring criteria -- would you hire them for your start-up. I know from experience that you can't really understand how important it is to work with A-players until you work at a company with mainly B-players.
- Tödd Nëmët
I really prefer to work with @-players and ideally ?-players
- ⓞnor
cos-players tend to be irrational unless you get exactly the right angle.
- ⓞnor
Question: Why would one of these super-heroic programmers want to work for you rather than launching their own thing?
- Adewale Oshineye
Dan should publish a blog with 100-word versions of all of Stevey's posts. I don't have the patience for the long versions.
- Jeremy Hylton
I want high quality generic collaborative summarization in general. Not sure how it would work, it's really easy to warp and distort things when boiling them down, and way too easy to take cheap shots at the author (as I did above).
- ⓞnor