SCREW YOU HAGGIS... I wax me legs, I spend hours in the hairdressers and weeks doing my makeup for you... YOU BASTARD... I HATE YOU... *runs off sobbing*
- Johnny Worthington
Oh I have you in another list Johnny: Crossdressing Australians of FF.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Aww, I hope I'm not offending anyone by not including them on the list. Many times I just go by the avatar and if it's a cartoon or something it's hard to tell and I won't put on here, and also these are just *my* personal tastes. Everyone has different types!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Any woman with the brass to be on FF is a hottie in my book.
- Chris Baskind
Wow - that'd be a drag to be on a list like that. Still, as I always say, if you want to get a lot of followers get a hot chick avatar. It's sad but it's iJustine. True! I mean true. It's sad but it's true.
- Ciaoenrico
Ciaoenrico I kinda take offense to that. My avatar is me, it's my face and I shared it on FF after a LOT of thought about it (plus some gender confusion, but that's another story). Because a woman might be considered attractive she *shouldn't* user her face as an avatar otherwise she's just trying to get followers? Bull crap, and sexist to boot.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Agreed, Tina. That certainly wasn't the point of this list - it was merely a way to point out all of my FF crushes at once. I hope no one takes offense to it. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I'm offended....I wasn't on this effing list!!
- jamar78
Sean, I'm not offended, personally. I find it rather amusing. The title of this post, to me, however, seemed rather "definitive". YMMV. :D
- Helen Sventitsky
I think I'm due for a new picture. I've used the same one since joining.
- Rochelle
Rochelle, you had that other one, the B&W one of you smiling. That was great, too
- Josh Haley
Quite a collection. There should be a male list too but then that could lead to a match-making game and apps being developed and other memes ... and ... oh dear ...
- Amani
Dammit.. I'm about to delete this post. It was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I don't think it's a problem pointing out your crushes, hun. I think it's the fact that it's titled "The Hotties of FriendFeed" that can make people kind of uncomfy. That comes across as a direct judgment of peoples' looks, even though we know you didn't mean it that way.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Sean don't ever apologize for your actions.
- Shevonne
Okay, I think I understand.. Thanks Amanda.. I just updated the title, hopefully it will let everyone know that this is my own personal list, and by no means a judgement of anyone.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
It's not my scene, but hey...whatevs. It just feels a little meat market-ish to me. People aren't avatars, and I know a couple on the list who wouldn't be proud of being reduced to a FF hottie on someone's list.
- Derrick
Derrick - But a lot of the stuff you post to the really gay room is pretty meat market-ish. Just because they're professional models it's okay to objectify them? We naturally objectify each other because we naturally are sexual creatures. I'm not offended by being on this list, but I don't like being objectified and I think what Haggis has done is a sweet gesture, not a gesture of blind testosterone rubbing one out.
- Mattie Kenny
Didn't anyone see me grab the popcorn earlier? That's your 1st clue.
- Josh Haley
Sean you created a monster didn't you....hehe
- jamar78
Ugh.. no kidding.. I guarantee this list will never be mentioned again outside of these posts. I think i'm gonna unplug for a while and let this all die down.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
ok i just now read the whole thread damnit i always miss everything lol joel... ::shakes head:: u kno to some i'm not a lil sister lol ur so funny i luv u!
- Cardeen Martinez
don't let it get to you Sean....all that matters is that you had no malicious intent which you didn't
- jamar78
**blushes** - gee thanks. :) And go hide for a while, Sean... it'll all blow over.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
nice list, i have about half of these in a group called "sexy people"
- sean percival
Mattie, any pics I post in the Really Gay Room are A) *in* the Really Gay Room, and B) pictures culled from sites that are meat-marketish to begin with. I would never post pics of Scoble or Louis Gray and say, "oh these are guys I'd like to see naked". And I'm not knocking Sean. I freakin' love Sean. But I also know that there are women on the list who've worked hard at getting to where they are in life and in their careers and to be thought of as a pin-up on FF isn't their bag.
- Derrick
It's about time you chimed in Leather...LMAO...love it...haha
- jamar78
I don't see how posting this in a room would make it any different a situation, Derrick. I don't think that Sean ever said he wanted to see any of the women on the list naked. Is that something I skipped over while scanning the comments? If he said that, then yes. This list is pretty lame. But being admired for your beauty isn't bad. Especially since (for me at least) being a hottie entails being incredibly intelligent and engaging.
- Mattie Kenny
Mattie, that's exactly what I consider a hottie. Attractiveness is only part of the factor. Intelligence, a sense of humor, and many other things go into that equation.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Mattie, I'm not going to fight with you over this. If you want to split ends, say I'm a hypocrite, or engage in double standards, feel free. I don't care. Very simply, I know people who don't want to be referred to as hotties. By anyone. I see them on the list. I speak up. That's it. There are 50 people in the RGR, maybe 20 people see it regularly. That's a HUGE difference than the numbers of people who sub to the home feed. But you know what? Forget I even opened my mouth. Apparently I've become a prude...
- Derrick
That's not what I'm saying, Derrick. Now I understand what you meant by putting the photos up in the RGR versus what Haggis did. Did these women speak up for themselves and say they don't appreciate being called attractive?
- Mattie Kenny
<3 Derrick.. I appreciate what you are saying, and think it's very commendable that you are seeing this from an angle I didn't really see. I know you only have the best intentions with what you are saying. Please no more fighting over this..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I just happen to know them, Mattie. And I didn't say they didn't appreciate being called attractive. I said they, knowing them as I do, woudn't appreciate being culled up on a list and pointed out for the world to ogle.
- Derrick
Sean, you know how I feel about you bud, and I'm not putting you on blast. Consider my hands washed of it.
- Derrick
Mattie, how about you look at it from the flip side...those women who DIDN'T make the list and don't have the benefit of feeling all bubbly inside because they've been deemed "attractive"? It's all well and good when you're on the winning team, apparently.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
yeah Sean you are a good person....don't beat yourself up about it
- jamar78
Although you better take my sis' out this damn list!! hehe
- jamar78
Amanda - I don't think not being on the list deems you unattractive and I don't think Haggis is the be all end all of who is or is not attractive. Wow. I'm on the list. BFD. I don't feel or bubbly inside, nor did I take it very seriously. It didn't blip in my radar until I saw people taking major offense to Haggis having posted the list, in which case I looked at it & was surprised to see myself there. I'm not on any "team".
- Mattie Kenny
Haggis, I love the conversations you spawn... feel free to include me in future provocative topics. ~xxxooo~
- Far
I would like to state for the record, should there be a men's list...I would like to opt out. That is all, thank you.
- Christian (Simply X)
Ok gents, let's show the ladies how we roll. (and can someone email me that info ahead of time, so I look like I know what I'm doing?)
- Morgan Haley
Oh too funny. Thanks for including me, Sean. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
And the winner for best line from this entire thread..."The picture is too small to see. Am I on it?"...@Martha. thank YOU! I am now cleaning cola off of my keyboard.
- .LAG liked that
How did you manage to limit yourself to only 53?
- j1m
Ok my cat is really pist off...didn't make the cut...gees! LOL
- Susan Beebe
This list is approved, mainly because one certain hottie is the better half :) Sean, not only do you represent a great product, but also exceptional taste. Sir, I owe you a drink! ;)
- Matt Harwood
I'm amazed that neither Lisa Bettany nor Sarah Lacy are showing up in any of these clique building seminar visual aides.
- Matthew DeVries
Ok I am not the brightest crayon in the box so I want to know how the hell do you see a list of people like that. I have different lists but where do I go to see all in just that one list?
- Brandy Lea
Brandy, you see this view when you go into one of your lists then select to Add/Remove friends.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think what Brandy is asking is if she can see someone else's list, which we can't. Haggis might have made a list that is friendfeed.com/list/hotties and he'll see it when he's logged in, but no one else would see it if they went to that same URL. He wouldn't even see it if he logged out and went to that URL.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't think I was subscribed to you when I made this list, Jeunelle. This is almost a year old! :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Don't misunderstand what I mean. I mean I am thankful I didn't make the list period. PRAISE THE LORD :)
- Jeunelle Foster
We should have an Academy Award of FriendFeed or something. That I would have a long ass speech prepared telling everybody how I'd like to thank all the little people who were responsible for me winning that award and it should be sponsored by Mashable and FFundercats :)
- Jeunelle Foster
How the FF did I miss this thread? Jan 27th??? Thank you! That's a huge compliment. And since it's so old, it's a fun time capsule too.
- Ginger Makela Riker
"Channel Four, in spite of its well-reported financial ‘challenges', has been busy recommissioning a pair of its most popular comedy series. And we're really rather pleased about it. First up, there's going to a fourth series of The IT Crowd. Writer Graham Linehan has ended his two most popular shows to date before The IT Crowd at three series - Black Books and Father Ted - but he'd earlier said that he hoped a fourth run of the show would get the green light. The new series is set to air next year."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
AWESOME!!! I was so sad when I heard IT Crowd's third season was their last season. Instead of cursing you Steve. I THANK YOU STEVE PEREZ :)
- Shawn aka ringking
*awaits the xkcd that depicts Randall dropping a hat*
- chrisofspades
Genius! And so true.I must be a local computer expert then cause that is my human subroutines when I hit a problem. Funny give it 8 years ago it would of been Yahoo and not Google.
- Shawn aka ringking
Break Dancing 2: The electric Boogalo?
- Santa CW™
yeayaa! everyone in the cinema screamed the place down- really horrible film!
- Simply Teeeya
You didn't like it? It's classic, campy horror!
- Jason Huebel
What other movies scared the crap out of you?
- Santa CW™
I avoid movies that scare the crap out of me -- to much cleanup.
- Brian Sullivan
@CW, none really. I can't remember the last time I saw a movie that was even vaguely scary to me.
- Jason Huebel
oh no, i loved it.. it did everything a horror film was meant to do! its so much better than the predictable teen stuff they have been churning out.. so when i went in there thinking that it was a regular film.. i was shockingly wrong!!
- Simply Teeeya
OMG. The old gypsy lady just attacked her in her bed. I gotta go change my shorts.
- Jason Huebel
OMG IT GETS WORSE!!! it gets really horrid!!!! she is an evil witch.. im scared for you! i would hate to watch it again!!
- Simply Teeeya
Watching it alone, in the dark, with headphones on is probably a bad idea. *turning on all the lights*
- Jason Huebel
:) isnt it much better with the light on? now its just an ugly woman with a heavy accent and a need to salivate! oh gosh i wish i cud have had a break.. so many times i wanted to walk out of cinema!!
- Simply Teeeya
Well, considering the lights were on when she attacked that girl in her bed, no. It's not much better. :-D
- Jason Huebel
oh that bit...some parts are just too bloody scary.. even without sound those parts would make you shat your pants... your brave to watch it on your own!!
- Simply Teeeya
but but.. what about the fear and the horror.. now it will inhibited by the drink!! lol
- Simply Teeeya
I doubt it. The fear and horror will remain! :-D
- Jason Huebel
I haven't poured my drink yet though...
- Jason Huebel
no.. now her guts pouring out will be funny!!!
- Simply Teeeya
That was messed up. (I've started watching it again.) She puked bugs and worms all over her. Ew.
- Jason Huebel
hahaha theres something about things coming out of the gut and wretching that makes a good horror film! enjoy the rest of the film! more to enjoy!! muhahaha
- Simply Teeeya
Well, we've had a talking goat now... :-D
- Jason Huebel
I'm having to get up and down while I watch, so I'm pausing a lot.
- Jason Huebel
I heard the movie is more funny than scary. Is that true?
- Bryan Lee
It's a little of both. It's got some good jump-in-your-seat moments. But there's a lot that's just so ridiculously bad that you can't help but laugh. :-D
- Jason Huebel
Like I said, classic, campy horror. :-)
- Jason Huebel
That sounds like typical Sam Raimi a la Evil Dead.
- Bryan Lee
The ending was pretty frickin' sweet. And for the record, the girl kinda had it coming. She tried to blame it on everyone else.
- Jason Huebel
yes but you gota feel sorry for her... she went into the gypsys grave and got a new coat with new buttons! ending was awesome! so unexpected!
- Simply Teeeya
If I was in danger of burning in hell for ETERNITY......I wonder what lengths I would go to.....
- Franz Sittampalam
The Oval Office -> The Office; The West Wing -> The Wing; Air Force One -> The One
- Mitch
+1 to "The Bell". Ma Bell doesn't seem to want that name still anyhow.
- Alex Power
Happi House -> The House, Costco -> The Co, Pottery Barn -> The Barn, Foot Locker -> The Locker, Good Guys -> The Guys, Best Buy -> The Buy, Burger King -> The King, Arby's -> The Bee's Knees
- Stephen Mack
Facebook = The FACE! // Google = The Goog // Gamestop = The Stop // Walmart = The Wall // K-mart = The K! // White Castle = The Castle
- Shawn aka ringking
Target > The Bullseye / WalMart > The Mart / FriendFeed > The Feed / Big Lots > The Lots / Wikipedia > The Wiki / Facebook > The Face / Flickr > The Flick ...George Saj is right, They should have went with "Teh Shack."
- Danny Minick
Actually they should have went with "PartsShack". It's still the main reason why most people go specifically to their stores, for miscellaneous electronic extras you need fast.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm sure Taco Bell would fight Ma Bell for The Bell
- Ian Betteridge
Albertson's Safeways, Target, Macy's, Home Depot--> "The store" // Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Ebay, MySpace --> "The Internet"
- Roger Nang
The price of tea in China --> The price.
- Micah Wittman
In fact, it almost HAS to be a blockbuster game for me to pay the 59.99 or whatever it is
- Johnny
Nope. I wait for used copies to show up and go down in price first.
- Ladybug Heather
Probably not. Maybe for games you can play on for years.
- Amit Morson
Yes. I paid £40 for COD:WAW and played for 18 hours (playing time) online. Best value for any form of entertainment I've ever had. I've since had to confront my addiction and I've gone cold turkey for the last 2 weeks.
- Toby Graham
Oh yeah but don't tell the game publishers I said that
- Toby Graham
I wonder how much WoW players spend on the game on average...
- Jemm
Maybe, for God of War 3. I paid 50$ for Call of Duty : World at War and I have17 weeks as playing time. :D
- Faraz Mullick
No, in fact it's getting difficult to justify $60. $60 was one of those prices I never thought about, but now I get good experiences for $10 and under (with Xbox Live Arcade and such), so why $60? I know why, but run prices up to $100, and I'll add an exclamation point.
- Wade Dorrell
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
- Manuel Mas
Knowing. Was so good right up until the end. Come. On.
- Zach Flauaus
Didn't even know Burton did James and the Giant Peach
- Manuel Mas
@Spidra - Bicentennial Man. I really liked the film myself, but then I love Asimov stories and love them when they get to film... not because they all live up to the written work, but because it is yet another medium to enjoy the work... like I, Robot. http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Travis Koger
Aeon Flux, Rocket Science, Napoleon Dynamite, Hot Fuzz, The Science of Dreams, Breaking News, Spiderman 3, X-Men 3, The Matrix 3, Repo Man, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Spaceballs, The Good Night, Burn After Reading, Tropic Thunder
- Brome
Silent Hill. Was awesome until the last 20 minutes. And the last Harry Potter. Don't even get me going on that one.
- ::Kristen::
I rarely watch movies, so I am rarely disappointed. long ago I was a big fan of MST3K - haven't seen it in years...
- Mike Nencetti
Master of Disguise would be my pick. I lost all faith in Dana Carvey after that movie.
- Shawn aka ringking
@::Kristen:: love Silent Hill up to that point also; good call. I disagree with the last Harry Potter; it was my favourite of the series thus far. Brome, you are so wrong in so many ways we need a new word to describe :P
- Michael W. May
Manuel, agree about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, very disappointing.
- Kol Tregaskes
I liked Hot Fuzz a lot, Burn After Reading was good too but agree on Tropic Thunder, very poor.
- Kol Tregaskes
I have stopped thinking about films like that, ie having some level that I expect them to sit at, or better. I just try and enjoy the film regardless of what went before it. Indiana Jones 4 was a good example. I think that on its own it was a perfectly good film, nice action, good 'mystery' etc.
- Travis Koger
I liked Silent Hill, but would have to watch it again to see about the ending.
- Kol Tregaskes
I try and watch any and every film and don't really bother to judge it. Even films that are seriously B-grade or lower still get eyeball time for me... Just like I would never say 'I am not interested in seeing that film'. There is just no point in excluding anything when all watching it does is waste some time. I have seen some brilliant foreign (read non-english speaking) films because of this concept.
- Travis Koger
I'm with Travis. While a movie may have disappointing plot or dialog, it doesn't mean that the movie couldn't have entertaining moments. Sometimes I watch some movies for a scene or two or because of the soundtrack.
- Jemm
Most movies based on books disappoint me if I have read the book first, but that is probably my fault - I find it difficult to see the film as a different/separate story.
- Mellissa Claus
Jemm, Bruno was like that for me, I didn't like the fact that it was formula film, almost an identical plot to Borat, even down to the 'companion' that went with him to the US etc, but there was a couple of scenes in the film that I found laugh out loud hilarious and that is really the payoff for seeing it. Only thing I dislike is having to spend a lot of money going to the cinema and...
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- Travis Koger
I think I was most disappointed with Mel Gibson and Julia Robert's "Conspiracy Theory". Probably because I know it was a poor story compared to what it was derived from. There was an actual real "conspiracy-spouting, internet-savvy taxi driver" in Melbourne between 1993 and 1996 well before the movie. And that case was a darn-sight more interesting a story.
- George Hall (Australia)
The Blair Witch wossname, utter garbage. Night in the Museum was way too childish. Could have been so much better. I've managed to avoid the sequel, which couldn't be any worse I suppose.
- Gilbert Harding
I loved AI ...you just didn't get it. it wasn't about a robot. it was about a little boy whose mommy rejected him. if you had balls you'd understand
- Noah David Simon
Noah: I got the point. That doesn't mean it was any good tho. It had about 6 parts where it SHOULD have ended, and the whole cinema was just laughing by the end because it went straight through 'bad' into 'hilarious'.
- Amy
did you like "Eyes Wide Shut? Amy? just wondering.
- Noah David Simon
Noah: Not particularly. It was alright, but overrated. It had atmosphere and mystery but the characters did nothing for me whatsoever.
- Amy
I think you might not be the audience for Kubrick's P.O.V. Amy. Kubrick was a craftsman, but his voice came out in both those movies
- Noah David Simon
All that came out watching "Eyes Wide Shut" were my eyes. Had to resocket them a few times.
- George Hall (Australia)
Kubrick's late explorations were on gender and power. A.I. resolved the feeling of rejection and lack of control men feel towards society women. mommy rejects us.... or our perfect wives are really controlling the game. they were contrary to the ideas of victimization and androgyny put forth by feminism. if you are a feminist I would garner that Kubrick's later stuff is quite...
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- Noah David Simon
They were poorly executed, no matter what the intended theme.
- Amy
this show is genius (always sunny in philidelphia)
- chaz2b
I think this is a preview from the new season starting in September. I cannot wait, been a fan of the show since episode 1. Hundred Dollar Baby is probably my favorite episode. (Where Dee and Charlie get hooked on steroids)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
What Rahsheen said...............Not cute or funny. That looks a bit distressing for the cat. Not cool to make any animal perform. Comedy like this is fine as long as it naturally occurs, when animals appear to do humorous things but this.......no.
- Kevin J Hatton
I think ppl can make childish jokes to their pet, lover, roommates or parents etc. but when u film and share that act to make other ppl laught, it becomes a little mean.it can even be said an "abuse".
- elodeon
Shevonne, LOL! My translator (http://translatorize.com ) decided that your comment was a non-English language and interpreted your answer as.... Singing :D
- Micah Wittman
I was having a dream that I was podcasting with Josh and we were talking about breakfast burritos.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Shevonne, 'sonor' is a latin rooted word, so Romantic languages have words containing it; maybe the Google translation algorithm associated it as misspelled Italian or Spanish. "1611, from L. sonorus "resounding," from sonor (gen. sonoris) "sound, noise," from sonare "to sound" (see sound (n.1))." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse...
- Micah Wittman
Blissfully sleeping, dreaming of a safer, more toxin-free world. Then I woke up and let the dog out to pee. So much for f'ree'ing toxins, I'm making them!
- Nicholas Chase
For all the single people out there...the best advice I can give you is to do what you like to do. Whatever your hobbies, join a group that does the same thing. Make friends. Friends lead to romantic relationships. Don't waste your time with dating.
Make friends assumes the people you discover in your 'niche' will like you.
- Mo Kargas
However, I strongly recommend flirting.
- Mistletoe Glen
I just went with the asexual route but I guess that works also. Add: I don't have to worry about any nagging or having to please someone else.
- Jimminy Fuller
Well, chances are there's at least one person out there who likes your hobbies that thinks you are OK, regardless of your personal foibles.
- Alex Scoble
Hehe, Derrick, we did not just have the same conversation..."these are not the droids you are looking for"
- Alex Scoble
most (but not all) of the other musicians i know are miserable, anti-social, back-stabbing jerks who i trust about as far as i can comfortably spit out a week-dead rat.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
"Hi, I'm gay. Oh, you're gay too? Do you want to be gay together?"
- Derrick
One of my gf's joined a coed hockey team and that's how she met her husband. I prolly like spending too much time alone and get in my own way.
- Gabrielle V
how about joining a group that doesn't do the same thing?
- adam garrett
LOL, Adam, that's up to you on what to join. Just try to be a bit zen about it. Love comes looking for your if you aren't looking too hard for it.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks Alex. It hasn't been suggested that I be zen about anything in quite a while. I try not to be Johnny Lee. (Lookin' for Love)
- adam garrett
This works if your hobby isn't typically antisocial, such as computer gaming...
- Philip Evans
from twhirl
Heh, yeah, you've got to actually get out there and meet people to meet someone special. They are MOST LIKELY not going to come knocking on your door. That's a little too zen.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
@Alex: music is also a hobby, it's the OTHER consuming passion in my life. thankfully, i've not been single in a long time.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I don't live life expecting to meet someone. When I do, I do - not too worried about being coupled or single...but that's me. I just need the internet ;)
- Mona Nomura
It’s funny you should bring this up right now. I don't know where to start, except to say that the last three days have been interesting. Three days ago, I received a request on Facebook to add a girl I haven't seen or heard from in years. I was apprehensive at first, because she was a close friend with my ex. Against my better judgment; I decided to add her, in the hopes my ex had...
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- Michael Fidler
Sorry, but you lost me at needy...what's wrong with that? :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
There's a good kind, or healthy kind of need, and another type which requires constant attention. They can never be alone. It's gets to the point of being obsessive. I hope you understand the difference. She has to be in a relationship or she isn't happy. I think you have to be happy with yourself as an individual first, if your ever going to add something to a relationship.
- Michael Fidler
Excellent advice. I use my camera to meet people and share common experiences. If I had a puppy I would be Golden.
- Russellreno
I think this is good advice, but not because I think people will actually find "the one" this way. It is good because putting yourself out there to meet new ppl or try new things tends to result in being a happy, self sufficient person and thus an attractive candidate for partnership.
- Sarah Miller
from iPhone
I thought that you were supposed to put a ring on it. Hm.
- Wirehead
I was sure you were going to give the advice not to get married. ;)
- Cristo
I'm wanting to respond, but cautious, because not that long ago I was what I'd probably have termed "involuntarily single." And I'm trying to think of what I can say that wouldn't annoy 3-or-4-years-ago me. For me, the key was being myself, ACCEPTING myself, and accepting that I *could* live a perfectly happy life as a single man if I didn't find the right person. And I know that last acceptance is the most difficult, but I think it's the most important, too, IMO.
- Scott of Two Countries
Scott, I agree after having someone that I spent nearly a quarter of my life with pulled away from me it was hard, but I finally decide I'm fine by myself if that happens.
- Jimminy Fuller
I believe it's very important to be good with being by yourself first. Knowing you don't 'need' someone around to have a good life. Makes it easier to recognize when you've made a mistake and jumped a little too soon. :) And makes it easier to see the good ones when they do finally come along. Be good with yourself, then you can be good together. Then the mutual interests come into play nicely.
- Bette Cooper
++ Scott, Jimminy, Bette. Exactly what I wanted to say.
- Sarah Miller
from iPhone
My husband and I don't have much in terms of shared interests or hobbies, although we do have shared values and goals. We were both happy with ourselves first (before we met). I found a dating website helpful because it made it clear we were on a date when we met up. There was none of this "does he like me, or does he just like the same things I do?" ambiguity.
- Clare Dibble
I met every woman I had a romantic interest in this way. "Dating" / the "singles scene" sucks.
- Trent Hamm
Neither dates nor friendships have worked for me since high school. All the relationships I've had since have resulted from hookups. Including the girl I'm currently seeing. Sad but true.
- LANjackal
from IM
Good advice, and I'd add that if you want a relationship but can't find anyone worthy who's into you (and you did put forth effort) it's probably because you need to work on yourself first. It's unreasonable to expect a non-crazy person to want you if you don't have it together yourself. And you bet I learned this the hard way, getting into a string of disasters because I couldn't face...
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- Lo
Funny, a female friend and I were having a conversation about that same issue last night: serial dating vs. developing yourself/self-improvement
- LANjackal
from IM
Do whatever it takes to stay that way. :) Divorce is expensive.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Exactly...it should happen organically.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Good advice, organic has worked for me. But I know several couples who met via personal ads/internet dating, including a couple whose wedding I officiated. I think there's nothing desperate or wrong to go that route.
- Maria Niles
I agree. Nothing wrong about specifically looking for a relationship. However I do have a problem with the practice of swinging from relationship to relationship as some people do
- LANjackal
from IM
Yeah, I don't think you should cut yourself off from online dating venues because you never know where that special someone will come from, but I do think that meeting people doing what you like to do is a much better way.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
One of my hobbies is drinking beer. I meet lots of interesting people at the pub.
- Nick B.
+1. I meet 98% of the girls I know from bars and clubs too. I'm often criticized for this and told that I'll never meet a decent girl that way, but I love going out and partying and I'm not the outdoors, artsy, library, book club, gym or playing sports (the usual suggestions I get) type. Partying (NOT getting trashed, I'm rarely wasted) is just what I do for fun and I love it. Whoever I get with is just gonna have to be OK with that or we'll never work
- LANjackal
from IM
Alex: good advice. Divorce is expensive. :)
- Valley
Then do friendfeed get togethers in your area.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I think you're referring to all of us in that statement, lol I deliberately shut my laptop lid when the current girl's around unless I'm queueing up some music
- LANjackal
from IM
Some of us are perfectly happy on our own, of course.
- Slappy Line
My hobby is using Friendfeed. And I have 500+ friends there. So it shouldn't be long before those friendships lead to romantic relationships, right?
- Brome
I've always found this kinda odd. Women are everywhere; the supermarket, Starbucks, church, Twitter, school, etc. The same goes for my women friends who complain about how hard it is to meet a great guy. Just look around you.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
You're right ! I think I have a kind of romance on blip.fm :-)
- lotre demedeu
You can also get lucky online. I met my man through Plenty of Fish. We've been together for almost a year and a half now. Helps that we have some interests in common. We just clicked immediately, like we'd known each other for years.
- Kamilah Gill
According to TV adverts in the UK: "2% of Americans who married in the last year met using eHarmony"
- Slappy Line
That's bizarre Slippy, of course their contribution to the divorce rate should be included for the number to have meaning. Surprised that's not in the ad too...
- Lo
Dear birthers: This is a typical birth certificate, issued by the state of Illinois. Note that it looks NOTHING like the original. BECAUSE NO ONE GIVES A RAT'S ASS. Up Yours, Me.
If it's good enough for an employer, then STFU. Seriously, I can't believe we're having this conversation. If the state says that a document is a birth certificate, then it's a birth certificate.
- Steven Perez
The more people talk about these ridiculous birthers, the more attention is drawn to their cause. They don't care about the facts or reality, just the buzz they create.
- Mo Kargas
With all due respect, you're not the President of the USA.
- Mistletoe Glen
No, but according to this piece of paper, I could be. END OF STORY.
- Steven Perez
Yeah, fuck you, you fucking idiots who think that our President isn't a citizen. Peace!
- Alex Scoble
While I don't particularly care myself, I would dispute your assertion that no one (cares). The fact is obvious that there are (perhaps deranged, but still vocal) people there who care very much. You can make yourself sound like an idiot by claiming no one cares, but that doesn't make it true.
- Mistletoe Glen
All right, Glen. NO SANE PERSON CARES. Better?
- Steven Perez
By attacking the rationality of the person raising the argument, you're attempting to deflect the argument itself. However, it simply shows that you're ignoring it, and thus giving (IMHO) false credence to it. Better to address the issue than to simply call names.
- Mistletoe Glen
Are you actually saying that you agree with the birthers, Glen?
- Steven Perez
As I've said before elsewhere, Steve, no, I don't. I think Obama is fully the legitimate president of the USA. I'm merely pointing out the fact that, if you use an ad hominem attack instead of addressing the issues raised, you've effectively given the argument to the other side. If I said, "I believe A to be true," and your response is, "only insane people believe A," then you haven't done anything to address the merits of my statement, effectively giving it silent affirmation.
- Mistletoe Glen
Because I'll tell you what this is about Glen: it's about overturning an election. The birthers couldn't care less where Obama was born. He could have been born on the steps of the Capitol building, and he would still not be their president. You don't like the man? Fine. But to try and rededine the meaning of "is", just to to lessen the pain of a lost election - that's a coward's way.
- Steven Perez
I'm sick and tired of both sides of the political spectrum thinking that, by calling the other side names, they've effectively addressed the issue.
- Mistletoe Glen
And you know something else, Glen? Their argument deserves every bit of scorn and derision I can muster. Because the majority of these clowns are fools. I have no respect either for them or their goofball, half-baked ideas.
- Steven Perez
If that's how you want our country to work, Steven, then you deserve what you get.
- Mistletoe Glen
How would you like this argument to work, Glen? They've gotten the truth and ignored it, many many times. At some point you gotta cut your losses and say "some fucktards are just never going to accept the truth for what it is and ergo they are fucking asshole losers".
- Alex Scoble
How much more can this issue be addressed? How much more proof can a person give than a birth certificate issued by the state of birth AND supporting evidence from a newspaper of record? The only way these people will believe he is a citizen is if we build a time machine and take them back so they can see little O crowning. If I believed so strongly that oranges were blue, despite being...
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- invariant - farewell FF
No answer will serve them, Glen. NONE. Nothing short of Barack Obama leaving office will ever satisfy them, and since they chose the most inane way of doing so (a make-believe loophole, instead of finding some sort of crime), they deserve every bit of name-calling they get. No, I have no respect for the lot of them - or anyone who propagates their craziness on any grounds.
- Steven Perez
I don't think a rational discussion is going to happen tonight, so I'll wish you all well and go listen to the rest of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" audiobook.
- Mistletoe Glen
Guess what, Glen? On this topic, you won't have a rational discussion - because one side believes that the president of the United States isn't an American.
- Steven Perez
Mark, yes you must provide proof of legal right to work in the country (fulfilled by birth certificate, green card, visa, etc.) when you start a job here in the US. EDIT: Maybe? I have had to for my jobs at least.
- invariant - farewell FF
Mark: if you sign up with a temp agency, you generally do. Most do, some don't. A passport works, too. (Which begs the question - does Barack Obama have a passport? Because one of the forms of ID for getting a passport is - wait for it - a birth certificate.)
- Steven Perez
Don't you have to have a passport to leave the country? Even if you're the POTUS, I don't think you just get to pass on through w/o ID
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
wow, interesting side topic. I've had 7 jobs in my life, in the state of illinois, I've never once had to show my birth certificate.
- Adam Turetzky
The State Department takes the same birth certificate as proof of American citizenship to issue a passport. If it's certified by the state, it's accepted as an original.
- Kenya
I've had a LOT of jobs. Never had to show a birth cert. I think a DL and SSN imply a birth cert. Seems logical to me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well, I did say you have to provide proof of legal right to work-SSN or DL are also obviously valid. Nevertheless, I retract my original comment.
- invariant - farewell FF
I had to get a new job a couple of months ago. I had to find my birth certificate and a id.
- Shawn aka ringking
Once I got my passport, I never needed to show my birth certificate again.
- Steven Perez
from IM
only ppl i know who had to show their passport or birth cert were either PR aliens or applying for work with a defence contractor...or telecom, lately.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I think we have arrived at a valid point. You can't have valid ID w/o showing someone a birth cert in the first place, right? So, implying Obama has no birth cert also implies he has no ID whatsoever.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
If you have a social security card, you won't have to show a birth certificate for employment.
- Kenya
I'm looking at the I-9 form that employers have to fill out to verify eligibility to work in the United States. There's a form called Certification of Birth Abroad that the State Department issues. Not one birther has claimed that such a thing exists for Obama.
- Kenya
I used my Illinois freshly printed birth certificate to reenter the US from Canada because I didn't have a passport.
- Andy Bakun
from Android
What is all this "birthers" crap? Some idiot the other day here said "I bet you are a birther too".. and I got no idea WTF they are on about lol Yeah.. I was born.. like the rest of us lol. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: "Birthers" is the collective name given to the right-wing element of Americans who want to find any piddling pathetic little excuse to support their racism and/or zealous political leanings; those who refuse to believe Obama is American and so shouldn't be President (though if Arnie was ever in a position to represent them, well that would be different of course.)
- Mark H
I see... so those who said that to me are DUMB seeing as I am not even an American lol. ;o) Thanks for explaining that for me. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
DYSP: But look at the kerning! And the lack of EXIF information! It's obviously counterfeit!
- Jim Norris
Birthers believe in a conspiracy, it almost impossible to convince someone who believes in a conspiracy that they are wrong, because anything you say against their belief they will see as apart of the conspiracy. The one thing you don't do is give them a voice in the main stream media as if they have a valid point.
- Kim Landwehr
I agree with Kim to a point, though the nature of conspiracy theories is that such disregard helps reinforce the story for true believers: "Of course it's true; that's /why/ the media is afraid to talk about it!"
- Andrew C
I guess my point is that when it comes to the Birther, your in a no win situation, no matter what you do or say, its going to reinforce their belief +1 Andrew C
- Kim Landwehr
Never really followed much of this during the election, but if it turned out Obama wasn't born in the US, then what? Change the Constitutional requirement?
- Kevin Whalen
If you are gonna change your constitution it will be worthless... can't change things on a whim and expect people to trust it.
- Rob Sellen :o)
What?!? You mean the Bill of Rights makes the Constitution worthless?!? No wonder it's all f'ed up!! Anyway, there's no need for a constitutional amendment since Obama was born in Hawaii, and Arnold Schwarzenegger wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell for the presidency even with an amendment ever since he destroyed the state of California.
- Victor Ganata
I'm just glad I'm Canadian where back in the day it was cool that our prime minister was a playboy. (no offense)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Kevin, no, we don't change our Constitution! (However, judges have 'interpreted' the Constitution in a way that precisely meets their needs/agendas since the framers created it. Not change. Interpret ,-)
- Jess
Actually, we do. That's what an amendment is: the act of amending or correcting; a statement that is added to or revises or improves a proposal or document (a bill or constitution etc.) http://www.google.com/search...
- Steven Perez
from IM
And whether or not the Constitution should be amended is a moot point. The document has been produced; it's not the Congress' job to rewrite the laws of reality for a few racist conspiracy nuts.
- Steven Perez
from IM
If they're not going to believe the evidence from the time machine, then there's simply no hope for them.
- Victor Ganata
I was including Amendments and all Rights under 'Constitution'. I agree completely that the Birther issue is racist and people are grabbing at straws. Just like I believe that it's crazy to think the framers of Constitutional Law could foresee/and think they could forsee all the issues the US would face in its future. That's why the words they used are so broad and not to be taken in a formalist nature.
- Jess
Jess, Rob, that was the genius of the Founding Fathers, that they realized no document could be perfect, so they provided a mechanism by which we could make changes.
- Victor Ganata
Back to the original discussion, I understand Glen's original point regarding ad hominems and such, and it's valid in general cases, but we're now well past this being an "argument." There is no two sides to this anymore. There's the proven truth and that's it. Anyone who argues the other side is, by definition, now making a completely irrational argument, which usually is when ad...
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- Chieze Okoye
The fact that a Birther's belief cannot be falsified with any sort of evidence means the rules of logic can't apply anyway.
- Victor Ganata
Ok.. well I don't give a shit anyway, about the birthers crap or whatever. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
As I said (in an earlier thread), ad hom may not be 100% correct, but it can be a handy rule of thumb.
- Andrew C
I'm inclined to agree. Asserting that Elvis is still alive does not constitute a reasoned argument such that one is immunized from ad hominems. People who argue things of that sort are rightly dismissed as "bat-shit-loon-fucking-wing-nuts."
- Christopher A Carr
That's an abstracted birth certificate.
- MicahBear78
Obama should make his original, 1961 birth certificate available, just for transparency's sake. According to Hawaii officials, they have it in their vault. So there's no good reason not to show it.
- Rob Sterling
I didn't know bunnehs had birth certificates. You learn something new every day :)
- Mellissa Claus
Rob, I'm totally sure that the birthers who have not only rejected every piece of evidence to date but refused to even acknowledge their existence will certainly change their tune if Obama were to release the long form birth certificate!
- Andrew C
@Andrew - The only piece of evidence that means anything is the 1961 birth certificate from the vault. And I can't imagine a reason for Obama to keep it locked up.
- Rob Sterling
Too bad he's on the East Coast :( Shawn!! Good to see you 'round these parts again. No one anyone knows :)
- Mona Nomura
You'll be back on the east coast in no time. well, after Gnomedex is done that is. Actually, in a way, sometimes the anticipation building up makes seeing them again oh so much better.
- John Wang
Thanks Mona. I got a new job as a lot attendant at a Home Depot. So when I have energy I comment :).
- Shawn aka ringking
Is that a good change, Shawn? I always enjoy your comments when you pop in every now and then again. :)
- Mona Nomura
Of course Chris has to ruin it - he goes into my FB thread and says: "Tech support" UGH. Let me enjoy my euphoria!
- Mona Nomura
*cries* I thought I was the boy you liked.
- Sparky
from iPhone
Well I was a clerk at a blockbuster video. So labor wise it's harder. But the Blockbuster was giving me no hours. So I quit and am trying out Home Depot. They treat me great. So it's a good change :)
- Shawn aka ringking
Haha. yea. I saw that too. So wrong. I do hope you're enjoying it. You sound so happy. Such a great thing. A happy Mona is a wonderful thing. :)
- John Wang
A boy?? Did it remind of those high school nights when u would talk on the phone until the sun came up?
- Amani
Omg yes. Or how I used to dial into radio stations over and over to dedicate a slow jam to "the" boy. Hahhaha. I really really like this guy too...too bad he lives alllllllllll the way in NYC :(
- Mona Nomura
Hmm? I thought you lived in NYC as well. Did you move again?
- John Wang
Ya, I'm in Seattle for Gnomedex - then I'm either back in NYC (which makes no sense) or in SF or Seattle...haven't decided yet.
- Mona Nomura
Looks like you have a few boy fans on the east coast. ;)
- shaun mclane
from BuddyFeed
I'll play a slow jam for you and your boy on Sunday. u all could skype together too. that opens up all sorts of possibilities.
- Amani
A white guy can steal the presidency via the Supreme Court, but heaven forbid that a black man actually get properly elected. Proof that racism still exists in the world.
- Alex Scoble
And none of this came to pass when he was running for Senator, right? O_o
- Derrick
Do Senators need to be citizens? I can't remember.
- Alex Scoble
I don't care if he is from Eternia he is the President and all this effort being spent to discredit him could be better spent in other areas. Sadly some people would rather remain assholic.
- Joe Pierce
Yes he is, but he's not a citizen by birth. Only citizens by birth can become Vice President or President.
- Alex Scoble
Oh, I'm sure that someone did. People on the right were questioning McCain's citizenship after all.
- Alex Scoble
I personally disagree with some of his actions. But he is a citizen. And you know there is always gonna be screamers about somebody. Be they demo or repub.
- Shawn aka ringking
Why do you need touch to interact with tweets? This is a GUI, gratuitious user interface.
- Andy Bakun
from Android
If that surface was truly interactive it would have swatted that Diet Coke right off the table and said something about it tasting like booty!
- Geoff Schultz
Andy: Because you can save the Tweets into a card, that you can access later. It's amazing. @Geoff don't be a Diet Coke hater!
- Mona Nomura
@Sasha Yes, Video podcasts seem to be the one that people tend to lean towards nowadays. @Mike Right now, I listen to CoffeeBreak French, Random Time Lords (Steven Perez and Amber), NPR, and I used to listen to Dave Ramsey. I also listen or see the ones people post on here usually.
- Shevonne
Podcasts which are properly done and in a busy niche are many times the thing that will satisfy a craving and create a desire for more. :)
- James Stratford
Podcast were around before. It was internet radio shows. The on demand effect is what made it become podcast. And as long as the podcast isn't everywhere and is a subject I enjoy. I will take a listen. TWIT and TWIF FTW~!
- Shawn aka ringking
In a way, yes. In the near future (20 years) we will still have content producers and delivry agents. What we won't have are content aggregators. So if you think of the producer of the podcast as the content producer, then, yeah, you absolutely nailed it!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
Thanks guys - there is SO much exciting stuff in the pipelines... Can't wait to reveal them!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
Oh and FYI, for those who can't join us, we will be streaming the conference, as well as the events going on outside. This year, Gnomedex is opening up the front hall for booths and toys - an MS Surface is only one of the fun things that's going to be there. :)
- Mona Nomura
You guys, I'm more excited for the attendees. This year, the brands are willing to get interactive and actually...participate in the community. Seriously, some of the things we're planning will blow you away!! I wish you guys can all come...but have no fear, we will be streaming!
- Mona Nomura
gnomedex always looks great, maybe i'll try to join you guys this year
- sean percival
You should totally come. There are going to be some announcements in a few days (or so) that'll probably excite you. This year, Gnomedex is doing something a liiiiiitle different. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Far wonders if anyone is going to respond to this.....and please let it be naughty.... SOCIAL EXPERIMENT: if you read this, even if we don't speak often, post a comment with a memory of you and me. It can be anything you want, either good or bad. When you're finished, post this paragraph on your own status and you will be surprised with what...
That time you tied me up and used the ice comes to mind. Sucks that you stole my wallet and left me in the hotel room for two days though.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That bellhop is still in therapy after what he walked in on.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
She didn't use the jumper cables, did she?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Naughty, huh? Yes, I remember that week in Venice, too, Far. We arrived at my friend's small apartment overlooking the city and we didn't even bother unpacking. We made sweet, passionate love in each of the rooms, over and over again. I remember how you loved teasing the young men who passed under our balcony by walking to the railing wearing nothing at all. I remember the sight and...
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- Steven Perez
Because "I'm an x86 and EFI-based personal computer running a semi-Open Source version of UNIX with a fancy proprietary GUI" doesn't have the same ring to it? ;)
- Tyson Key
Macs are way more user friendly. PCs are confusing.
- Shawn aka ringking
Exactly! PC = personal computer! Why don't people understand that?! :(
- John Wang
I remember working on a Mac OS 9 computer at school (for yearbook class) and coming home and feeling relief when working on my windows 98 machine. Now the same happens, but I come from XP at work and sit at my Leopard Mac at home. Windows 7 might cure this...
- Ryan Massie
I perfer my personal comfuser (as Leo Laport called it on Call For Help).
- Shawn aka ringking
It's all semantics anyway -- how is a netbook different from a notebook? Try and make that definition black and white, i dare ya.
- Ryan Massie
Didn't they used to call "netbooks" "sub-notebooks" at one time, or something like that?
- Tyson Key
What about UMPC, where did that term go?
- Ryan Massie
Come to think of it, how is the iPhone not also a PC?
- Ryan Massie
Good point, Ryan. That went to the graveyard along with Tablet PCs, PDAs/"Pocket PCs" and palmtops, I think.
- Tyson Key
I find it amusing that the Symbian Foundation want to kill the term "smartphone" (their documentation writing style guide suggests using "Symbian-based device" or similar instead), despite being the ones using it and promoting it heavily, for what it's worth.
- Tyson Key
How do you designate a computer the runs Windows, Unix, Linux, ect that is not a Mac? Mac verse ____? Piece of crap might work though, hmm... (Posted from a Dell who's existence is justified only because of gaming.)
- Heather
Everything is gonna be cross platform on operating systems anyway.
- Shawn aka ringking
Sure, they're one-trick ponies, but what about desktop calculators? They're personal devices, and they perform an admittedly limited amount of computation. Do they count?
- Tyson Key
What do you play? WoW purrs on my Mac
- Neal Jansons
from IM
What about the original Xbox, given that folks have managed to install various distributions of Linux on it?
- Tyson Key
Yup WoW. I've got a laptop though. My parents desktop plays fine (aside from major city lag). Plus, the Dell runs Sims2 so I don't have to kick the boy off his comp. Now if only he could find the Zoo Tycon disks!
- Heather