There are forms of communication Congressional Democrats AREN'T aiming to censor? Scratch that, "Congressmen" aren't ... No man's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness is safe while Congress is in session. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
You guys should go re-read this post, along with the posts by O'Reilly, Masnick and Aaron Brazell (including his second update). Rizzn, I'm afraid you've wildly misinterpreted what that one guy, Capuano, was trying to say. - Eric Eldon
He's trying to enforce House rules with the intention to censor. He could have written a letter asking to relax these rules, but he didn't. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Heh. Thanks, Veronica. I tried to clearly mark the "boring" and "interesting" parts so that I'd have a better shot at folks making it to the end of the article. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I don't get it. Currently the making of official posts (including videos) can only be on the government site. The letter proposes ways to allow posting elsewhere, but with care to avoid association with advertising and political material. So there is no addition of restrictions. They are proposing ways to relax the current ones for posting of videos. So yes, that is a knee-jerk post. - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl
I also believe that the blogosphere and especially Twitter were "played" by repetitious tweets that kept making the same mis-statement. - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl
I am rarely on Twitter and Culberson isn't on FriendFeed. I didn't see his repetitive tweets til much later. I got my news via back channel then saw Culbersons tweets. I read Techdirt and others including Mashable. I'm very much aligned with Mark on this one... While I don't believe it's partisan, per se, it's somewhat appalling that House leadership would go out of their way to squash the ability of Congressmen to talk directly to their constituency without throwing road blocks. That's my beef with it - Aaron Brazell
Did anyone read the letter? It was obviously supporting the use of these technologies to communicate with a constituency. It was simply stating that it should be done in a way within the rules. When a citizen goes to find information they want to know it is true and from the source they are seeking it. There is no guarantee the congressperson on twitter IS that person unless offically sanctioned in some fashion. That's the point! Use the tech but make it so citizens can know it is official. - aka Taylor
It's supporting them in a backhanded way. It's saying "let's create a whitelist." That's censorship, I'm afraid. That means there's a whole lot of places that won't be sanctioned, if the rules are enforced. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
No it's saying lets make sure there are official places where citizens to go where they know they are getting official information. Because I know I'd think twice about believeing 'GWBush' on Twitter when he tweets all apple fans are to be branded with the Apple logo. At least until I went to whitehouse.gov and saw we were to report to the rose garden at 8am. It's not censorship to create a place where citizens know they are getting something real and official. - aka Taylor
think of it like this...i can't go to the 7 Eleven to get an official drivers license. The one I buy from the guy there might have all the right information ... don't make it official...or real. - aka Taylor
What i'd like to see is the gov to invent a token or graphic or something that they can use on a site that denotes an official status. Owner of said site would be required to verify anyone using said token is the official they say they are but that way a congressperson could utilize in new and cutting edge sites instead of having to wait for a site to be "approved". A portable token would give officials more flexibility while still creating credentials...doesn't solve the advertising issue though... - aka Taylor
Here's a question: where does the private citizen end and the representative begin? - Andrew Feinberg
It is, however, censorship to say that a private citizen (ie. a Congresscritter) can't speak officially wherever they please. If they want to speak officially on Twitter, that's their concern. If they want it likely to be recognized as such they'll have to be supported by authoritative sources as deemed by the audience. Mandating authoritative sources may be governmental, but it's a still a regulation of free speech. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
Well, it didn't make me sound very nice...but it is what I said. Still..there's a conversation on Gtalk that lead to that. I tend to work with men 2x (plus) my age for the most part and they've been in business longer than I've been alive. I sort of learned to turn on a pretty brusque persona when it comes to business. He just discovered it. - Candace Holly
I thought you said that, when it came to business, I was the brutal one :P - Spinn
Not knowing the backstory makes this quite intruiging. - Larry Kless via twhirl
Heheheh...that's why sometimes cliffhanger entries are the best ;) - Spinn
Well, you are pretty brutal when it comes to business. But, that discussion was totally different. We were talking about my own business then.It still didn't make me look very nice. - Candace Holly
Nothing like an argument in public. Hold on while I grab a chair and get comfortable... - Jonathan Beckett
Fortunately, he's off work and on his way home. The argument will most likely continue in private now. ...It wasn't an argument though. That specific "tweet" quoting me was actually something that made us both laugh on gtalk. - Candace Holly
Install failed. I'm not enamoured enough with the concept to troubleshoot it right away. Maybe this weekend. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I got it installed earlier with no problems, even created a room, but the avatar management interface is still a little clunky and weird. Give it a couple weeks for the neophiles to rub off the sharpest of the edges. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
There's a lot of misinformation about what "singulatarians" actually believe. Not everyone agrees with Ray Kurzweil's notions that he'll live long enough to upload his consciousness. The best resource I've found is Michael Annissmov's Accelerating Future blog: http://www.acceleratingfuture.... - Dan Kaplan
I'm all for it, only I say let Kurzweil go first when comes to the first downloading of brain contents. That way if something is missing, we'll know pretty quick ;-) - Dean Terry
Interesting, we were just talking about this last night: http://friendfeed.com/e/b3ce29... Doing a quick search, looks like singularity is on the brain of Friendfeed lately. Ooooooeeeeeoooo. - Mark Trapp
As long as more and more people spend all their time on FriendFeed, there won't be too much AI technology being developed. :) - Chris White
i think its at least a few years off, so you can relax, plenty of time for you to get used to it before it happens :P - bob
It's just amazing that I haven't seen any of the movies where this happens (Terminator, iRobot, etc.). What else are people working on from within the FriendFeed headquarters that can kill me? :) - Ana
I'm not convinced. still disconcerting as hell though. - Marco
ana, i think someone is working on doomsday devices over in the furniture graveyard :P - bob
I took Computer Ethics at SDSU (where Vinge taught) and one of our assignments was to compare Vinge's singularity essay to Ted Kaczynski's "Unabomber Manifesto." The similarities are rather striking. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it is extremely fascinating the differing approach people take to similar topics. - Brooks Bishop
to counterbalance computers that are super smart, we need humans who are freakishly strong. - eviltom
I always thought the first sign of the singularity was twitter. sigh - Elad
Thanks for posting that link to Vinge's essay, Michael. You're right - a mind-boggling read on a fascinating subject that hadn't really crossed my radar until reading this terrific thread. Makes me appreciate FF all the more for putting it in front of me. Could its increasing popularity be another of the early signs indicating the onset of the Singularity? I think we should be told. - Bob Kingsley
movies are pretty bad at showing the future; they tend to show things that *look* cool - Amit Patel
@nick: Thanks for that wired link. Thanks to all for discussing this topic - very interesting. - nadim
Since there seems to be interest, most of the best reading on this is SciFi. Vinge's "Rainbow End" and Stross's "Accelerando" are probably the best "What happens when (if) the Singularity happens" books. (Interesting to note that Vinge is an ex CompSci professor and Stross is an ex-perl hacker). If you want to get scared by the singularity read "A Fire Upon the Deep", though. - Nick Lothian
@Nick: thanks for the link to the Bill Joy essay. Another fascinating, absorbing read. - Bob Kingsley
Ana, you should keep your eyes out for human sized bugs, among other things. - Clare Dibble
I'm a singularity skeptic - increasing compute power doesn't solve basic problems like global warming. - Piaw Na
Will the Singularity happen. Never say never, although I am a skeptic. I do think must Singularitarians completely underestimate the complexity of human biology and by orders of magnitude - Deepak
That's actually a pretty common response. Interesting side: I knew my wife was a keeper when she instantly took to the idea, not frightened or put off at all. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Deepak agreed, and there's also the matter of assuming that they've figured out and are right about basic metaphysical issues argued for centuries. As we've learned in recent years, certainty can be dangerous. Like I said above: Kurzweil goes first! - Dean Terry
I've said this before, I really like and agree with Kurzwiel but I have issues with the diet of 100s of pills a day (to make it to the singularity) and the very odd alter ego his future self becomes. I'm also troubled by the poor graphics on his site :) They really need some of that exponential love. - Doug Brooks
Kurtzweils accelerated returns theory is probably true and implies an upcoming singularity event. But the singularity is crucially dependent on the computing-biology interface and I agree with @Deepak and @Dean terry that biology is the limiting factor and that biomedicine is not in the steep part of the S-curve, - yet.......The singularity must come at some point however, and unlike @Amit Patel, I believe it will look extremely cool.... - SciPhu
"It's not, if you actually read up on the facts of the case. That's why it's looking like a stretch to you, most likely.
Everyone is responding off emotion with this one. I've hashed out the facts a million places as this conversation has migrated across the blogosphere, so I won't do it again here.
Bottom line is that, yeah, you're paraphrasing what I said a bit, but is essentially right." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
"Everything you just said here in that comment is true. It doesn't prove anything I just said wrong.
Just because you don't get the larger point doesn't make Loren a racist. It means he didn't do a good job making his point. It also doesn't mean he's talentless, either. Many people find him funny for things other than just this one video (in fact, most people find him funny for things other than that one video)." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
""I’ll tell you why: there’s no talent in being offensive."
Two words: George Carlin.
Two more: Howard Stern.
Two more: Chris Rock.
Two more: Bill Maher.
You start applying social pressure to punish folks simply for being offensive, and you'll end up with a bland and sparse culture." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
What I really want to say is "If you black people are so damned weak-minded you consider that a credible assault, then please, get off my continent." Bill Cosby would probably agree, but that'd just end up with me being called a racist, right? - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
As long as it's not me...but I'm probably not well liked enough to start with to count in that criteria. Serious though: no. Personal choice. - Duncan Riley
A sin? I didn't know FF had become a Christian sect! When did that happen? - AJ Kohn
Well, I don't like you, Mark, but no one else does either so I'm not talking about you. ZING :) (j/k) - Aaron Brazell
Spill it, Aaron, or you'll be deleted. :-) - Louis Gray
Yeah, if I mention who it is then I'm going to be swept out of here. Because really, he is an ultimate good guy. I just get tired of him. :) - Aaron Brazell
MRH: That must be the lost 28th book of Leviticus, which also states that everyone should give me 12% of their income. If you find it, let me know. Aaron: I wouldn't really worry about it - hide works wonders if it gets unbearable. - David Worrell
It's hard to find, but it's mark@itafroma.com Aaron. - Mark Trapp
Aaron, you can like, dislike, hide, block, or (apparently) stalk anyone you want on friendfeed. Using it shouldn't be a chore.. if it is, stop using it. - J. Phil
I vote for banning anyone Aaron does not like. Let's see the list. - Kyle Lacy
What's this, "I've got a secret, but I'm not telling..." stuff? - Vince DeGeorge
It's just so hard to keep track of who you're supposed to like and who you aren't. One minute you see somebody post something really insightful that gets you thinking about something in a whole new way and you like them. The next minute you find out that two years ago that person said something mean about somebody else you thought you liked, and you're, like, who am I supposed to like? It's, like, confusing. - Ken Sheppardson
I just try to like people who like me, and not worry about the rest. - Ken Sheppardson
I don't like the majority of the people who everyone else seems to worship. Something about false idols... ;) - Alex Hillman
Yes, it's a sin to not like me, punished by being overfed on well-filled leeches. They taste like candy and rainbows. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
In my opinion, regarding Scoble, he will like you more if you don't give as much of a crap about him. He is always trying to look out past the rosy glow of the scobleverse to what is next, and that often means ignoring the noise from his fan club. - J. Phil
Scoble is not who I was talking about. - Aaron Brazell
Y'know, I like everybody. I just don't follow them all. ;) - Cecily Walker
I can tell that there are people on both sides and a lot of people are probably laying low on this. It's going to be a very divisive story. - Shawn Farner
I'm fist pumping over this. The guy is a hack. I'm not surprised he got dropped over controversial material as opposed to the reason he should have never been picked up in the first place: talentless material. - Michael Beck
Anyone else finding it interesting that most of the people on the other side are white men? I predict this is going to get bigger before it goes away. - Cyndy
Smart people don't comment or get involved in any way. - Aaron Brazell
its easy to run around and comment on tech stuff, but it takes a real heart and intelligence to understand and comment on this issue...i sent this to one of top dogs and he was quiet....probably too afraid of them making a puppet of him. - Pokai
Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at all so many came/will come to his defense. Let's see how many show their true colors as this debate continues. - Bwana McCall
And they defend him no matter what and whenever. I made a spoof video of Feldman on YouTube and one of his "friends" was quick to jump on it in the comments. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vi3... - Michael Beck
Pokai: It has nothing to do with puppets. It has to do with the fact that this is a legal issue and commenting on a problem none of us created or can solve only inserts you into the middle of a legal issue. Smart people don't comment. - Aaron Brazell
The part that surprises me is that Verizon cut a deal with him in the first place. Corporations are notoriously risk-averse, and would probably think twice even before agreeing to a video series with Jerry Seinfeld. For the record, I haven't seen "Tech Nigga," but I saw some of the Shel Israel stuff and the video in which images of Robert Scoble's face obscured a woman's nipples. Wonder if Verizon was planning to air that one. - Ontario Emperor
Ontario; at least in television and radio, programming is always done by middle managers, not executives or lawyers. It's very likely that the people who could've clued Verizon into the issues relating to Feldman's work weren't involved, at all, in any programming decisions until after it was raised by third parties. It's very much driven by "I need x amount of programming by y date:" very rarely are things background checked. - Mark Trapp
<sarcasm>Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... </sarcasm> I think I'll buy a couple more services from Verizon to celebrate their decision. - Sprague D
SHEL: "Mike, for you to imply I somehow, in the back channel, incited a black Muslim organization to persuade a telephony carrier to take down Loren’s material shows a very weird assumption of what I can or would do." [sock puppet turns to camera] SOCK PUPPET: "FASCINATING! Maybe Loren can replace the Verizon sponsorship with one from... (wait for it...) S... A... P! Bringing you "comedy" that beats you over the head with a 2x4, since 1938!" - Karim
See, according to Loren, the problem isn't that white people are racist, it's that black people are self-hating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... "It has *nothing* to do with the white guy." - Karim
Aaron, can you please explain to me how "smart people don't comment" on this because it's some kind of "legal issue?" Why are you encouraging people to stick their heads in the sand on this issue? - Karim
That's a fantastic blog post. And the best thing I've read so far on this. I love the coercive apologists and transparent attempts to trivialize the matter. Intelligent people have *already* weighed in - and will continue to do so, regardless of lickspittle internet bullies and their bigot pals. I was bullied as the poor kid in school. I can smell them a million miles away. They're cowards and they're all about silencing those who defy them. Let's call them for what they are. Go back to stealing lunch money - melmcbride
Some of us are just worried about Mike Arrington's health. Anyone proposing that a guy named Shel *Israel* is the Secret (sock) Puppet Master to a black *Muslim* organization can't be too connected to reality. - Karim
Karim: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy crap i just pissed myself. - Eric Rice
I'm biting my tongue for the rest of this scandal, until the next time someone picks on Christians or Conservatives. Then I'll yell BIGOT! as loud as I can, and start a protest. Hypocrisy. Nothing different between the PIH and Jack Thompson, in my opinion. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Except, isn't it pretty factually incorrect? By the numbers, plurk didn't pick up much slack, except for when it tried and epic failed. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
A perfect summary of the relevant issues. Though I kind of like hybridizing glossy with vintage; there's nice visual tension. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
This is a GREAT page -- very well done graphic work and extremely clever ideas. - Nicholas Kreidberg
Funny - I recently had to explain the problem with this concept to our 4 year old after she hit her sister in the head with a stick and thought "sorry" made everything okay. - Jonathan Beckett
wake up... it will pass and it should. these men have not allowed one terrorist attack since 9/11. waterboard em I don't give a damn. out the nipple clips on Osama's henchmen. - Noah David Simon
Wow... just wow. Clicking 'Like' just doesn't seem to be fitting. FF needs another option methinks... Anyway, this is disgraceful. - Jamie Clark
now let's see WHO in the Senate actually votes for this. Who's for change ? - Andrew MacNeill via twhirl
The bill passed, like 9 months ago, something like 406-6. It's law. Weren't you all calling your Senators when this was up for the vote last fall? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... - Adam Turetzky
Ah... Well both my Senators voted against (Mikulski and Sarbanes). DSo that's good. We still got rid of Sarbanes though (he didn't run for re-election). Ben Cardin is the new Junior Senator from the People's Republic of Maryland. - Aaron Brazell
It seems USA is truly heading towards being a totalitarian state - Brian Sullivan
Technically, it is Congress giving Bush a pardon he wrote and inserted in a bill. But he won't escape international prosecution because of this. - Mitch Ratcliffe via twhirl
So is this like asking for forgiveness for something he may or may not do now, or in the future or may have done in the p... oh, damn! I've gone crossed eyed! - zoblue
caffertyfile@cnn.com <- Don't let someone go away just like that. - AJ Batac
Where does responsibility end? Congress voted for the things he's being potentially accused of, as well. Do they get punished for war-crimes? What about the faulty intelligence gatherers? What about folks like Gore and the Clintons, who also supported the Iraqi war? What about the folks who voted for the folks who voted for this war? It's easy to pick on the President because he's a retard, but that doesn't make it sporting. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
"He was trying to make a point about the blogosphere - and how we're all navel gazers, and that was a caricature of what a tech blogger entrenched in the stereotypical "r/black" culture would look like. The fact that he was "impersonating" a black person was just a means to that end. He could have chosen Christians, Mexicans, Buddhists, Nihilists or Raver kids as the stereotype. The point was that the blogosphere lacked diversity and perspective in that respect.
Like I said, I didn't find it a particularly hilarious video, and the only reason I've analyzed it is because of the controversy, not the humor value. If he spent a bit more time writing the jokes, his point might have been better made.
I don't think Loren's truly a racist though. It just doesn't scan." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
"Well, they might. Loren Feldman is more of a divider than a uniter, so it is doubtful that he's going to get the blogosphere behind him to get a counter-protest going. What I think is sad is that something like that could easily work (and has in the past) to combat these types of protest-bullies.
The only problem is, it isn't politically correct, so no one is going to get behind it. If only Loren had picked on Republicans, he'd still have a Verizon contract." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Sounds like there is lot of lack of class going around here. Maybe some skullduggery and fraud as well? - Brian Sullivan
The internet is very serious business. Websites and their former employees are even more serious business. We should all be aware of this. - Candace Holly
I like jason's link but I don't agree with his commentary. Arrington declared war after all. - Alan Le
maybe this is just one example of something duncan didn't like that caused him to leave. if he produces a blue dress "dug" by MA, ima hurl. - Wolfsbayne
Right -- like the commenter said:"Duncan taking his final step off the bridge as he strikes a match which he flings over his shoulder...". p.s. clickmonkeys.com (mentioned in valleywag thread re. prevalence of digg gaming) is hiliariously brazen, like captchakiller.com - Rowan Price via twhirl
in the larger scheme of things - blogs were supposed to be different than old media, but it looks like the same bs is going on - rivalries, backdoor pimping of your own stuff, it's just sad. New media has become old media, the more things change the more they stay the same. - Jason Kaneshiro
Duncan does not appear to be attacking his former employer in that post. - Scott Jarkoff
all is fair in love, business and social media boosting - sean percival
note to calacanis: who asked you? LOL - Bwana McCall
It's a clever way of attacking. But it draws blog posts and attention. Sigh, what a world. - Ben Parr
I am really feeling something about Karma these days.... do to others as you wish to have done to you - Ian Nock via twhirl
OOooooo touched a nerve there Duncan! - Susan Beebe
Jason, I didn't "attack" anybody, I simply aksed, on my personal blog, that given that I was cut off, why they kept begging me for Diggs, a reasonable question. Point out exactly where I attacked anyone Jason? - Duncan Riley
I have no horse in this race but I do find it interesting that Jason attacks the whistleblower and not the person actually committing the "crime".( Hmmm. - chartreuse
I'm a bit surprised that TC is still implementing a Digg Army. It's not uncommon to have a group of folks who will Digg stories for you or your site. But it seems like a strategy for a up and coming site, not a well established one. Duncan himself did say that Arrington was one of the hardest working guys he's met. So ... perhaps Mike just isn't resting on his laurels - which isn't a bad thing. I do wonder whether Duncan asked to be removed prior to posting this shot. - AJ Kohn
ahem can we leave the high school lunch room yet? - Fred Grott
AJ, Michael told me never to email him again, so I couldn't asked to be removed. Writing a blog post was my only alternative to being spammed. - Duncan Riley
@Duncan: Understood and that does make (some) sense. I'm a fan Duncan and clearly don' t know all the ins and outs. But ... to be fair, could you have emailed Biggs or Ha direct? - AJ Kohn
Biggs had a hissy fit that I was at Macworld for TechCrunch, and I've never spoken to him since. Ha I don't know. Besides, they weren't sending the emails individually, it was a group email to diggthis@techcrunch.com - Duncan Riley
Duncan, you should be a politician the way you're trying to spin that post as a way to stop spam. :-P You definitely could have emailed another TC or CG writer and they would have passed the message on. You can't tell me you write about social networks and couldn't find one to contact someone on. - Shawn Farner
Shawn, I believe that ultimately they may have still wanted my Diggs, why else would I have been cut off from all the other email lists but not that one. But I'll note again: I didn't attack them in the post, I simply made an observation (calacanis links to Valleywag, not my post). Trust me, if I was going to attack them, this wouldn't be it. I've never been known for subtlety :-) - Duncan Riley
@Duncan: Makes sense. Me, I don't see a problem with the post. Sort of a don't do anything you wouldn't want to see in print type of scenario. Crowd-Digging isn't anything new. Hope you're off the diggthis list ;) - AJ Kohn
I appreciate Duncan's defense but personally I would just come out and say - I'm trying to make TC look like dicks. No one would blame you :) - Chris Ridenour
I'll put it this way - Duncan's the only guy from TC that ever treated me like I was a human from the time I started at Mashable on. After I signed on with Pete, someone at TC went thru and forensically removed all my comments from before I joined, removed references to my personal blog from CrunchGear (they blogged about me a couple times), and generally let us know at Mash thru the grapevine what they thought of us (it isn't very nice stuff)..... - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
... Duncan never participated in that foolishness, and I've always appreciated that. MA declared war first with Duncan, so if he wants to play the game, he can't be too upset when things like this crop up. In short, Duncan's been nothing but classy, in my book. I won't participate in this particular blogfite officially, but I will refute Jason's position that this is indicative of Duncan's class. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I know nothing about nothing, BUT it is usually not cool to air dirty laundry in public. TC could be
secret Nazis but it still doesn't look good to say that you can't email them or reveal company tactics. - Andrew Burd
Jason - do you consider what you are doing to DEMO attacks? Pot meet Kettle. - Mark Lepzig
Thx Mark. Andrew, honestly, I wrote a post the other day with my last thoughts on the matter and that was going to be the end of it, then I noticed one of my inboxes getting fuller as I was trying to clean them up (I have more email rules + boxes then friends on FF :-) ). I just like their hide though: slam me in private, then expect me to digg them. I'll give Michael credit, he has balls. Any further spam aside though, consider this my last on the matter. - Duncan Riley
I'm so far out of anyone Top Anything that if I started my own social networking system and told no one about it, I'd still not make the Top 250 on it. - Alexander Williams
Well, yes, exactly. But will they take advantage of the technologies before it's too late for their businesses? I'm betting not. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
nice post - they are making changes its just slow going - mike "glemak" dunn
That's the problem, though. Sean and I have a video post coming out in a couple days that delves further into this. I think it'd be easier for a moderately funded new media group to swoop in and try to upend the market from that side, rather than try to convince these old media folks to change. I've tried that before. It's nigh impossible. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
"Ok. I'm sick of screwing with Seesmic, so I'll just bulletpoint what I was saying in the video:
* The TechNigga videos were never on VCAST. It was to be exclusive content.
* Therefore there was nothing to protest.
* That didn't stop Project Islamic Hope from protesting. They're a professional protesting group.
* They protest easy positions, they have no guts to stand up for tough cases.
* PIH is essentially cultural political correctness patrol.
* That's bad.
* Loren wasn't making fun of black people.
* Loren was making fun of bloggers.
* I agree with the George Carlin angle.
* PIH is playing the part of the Catholics in the Catholics vs. Opie and Anthony and Jack Thompson in Jack vs. Grand Theft Auto.
* People are hypocrites for not calling these protesters on this." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
My advice to Corvida: check to see how old this guy is. My guess is he isn't GenX. We GenXers took our share of beatings from the Boomers when they called us the "dumbest generation." You guys are growing up, so it is your turn to be dumb. :-p It's a rite of passage. Wear it like a badge. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Shouldn't social media easily be defined as "media that encourages socializing or interaction" ? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Only if you want to render the term meaningless because that folds in everything from email to IRC to eHarmony. A term that means everything means nothing, even if it is more accurate; it's less precise. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
is that what people do, write a story/blog and then ask people to submit to digg, is it that manufactured? - Donovan Slennon
Donovan, for a lot of blogs, yes. Quick way to boost the return on your CPM ads. - Mark Trapp
duncan, you have what some call testicular fortitude. - Eric Eldon
Donovan, it's always seen as a good way of giving a story a head start, particularly when there is 20-30 ppl on the distribution list. Eric, lol :-) - Duncan Riley
