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michael sean wright
The completely unauthorized, uncalled for nightcrew logo
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LOL! This one doesn't look like a convenience store sign - Rahsheen?
You're going to make Lacy jealous - Pete D
Can someone make a list of the Night Crew ;) - Brandon
no no Brandon, let's not to do that...anyone should be welcome and making a list will just exclude people... - Zee.
Now thats a logo! - Michael Fidler
Yeah, NightCrew is just anyone who is around at ungodly hours... - Rahsheen?
Does Kyle know about this? ;-) - Justin Korn
Ooooh, noice! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Cool Logo! - Jeff P. Henderson
@zee oh yes... you're right. lol - Brandon
Very, very nice! - Daynah
Okay... come on people.. I say we vote on it.. :) - Kyle Lacy
Just remember- this is not a competition, just an exhibition. @Kyle - ever been to Culver, IN? Grew up there before moving to Chicago. - michael sean wright
Nice: I have been to Culver! You are in Chicago now? I will have to let you know next time I am up your way. - Kyle Lacy
LOVE - Mona Nomura
love it - anna sauce
Now on West Coast, Dana Point, CA. Family still in Chicago, visit as often as I can. - michael sean wright
That's us, all right. - Steven Perez
*** KEEPER!! Love it!! *** we should update the Facebook Night Crew page with this one!! Just wait till Kyle shows up! LOL - Susan Beebe
There's a Facebook Night Crew page? url please. - michael sean wright
I love it. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
has it really been nearly 6 months since we've seen this? - michael sean wright
like a flash, nff - Pete D
Wow, blast from the past. - Rochelle
WTF? Damn, How'd I miss this? - tehKenny
Yeah, baby! Makes me wanna stay up a little lo.....*snoooooooooooooooooooore* - Rahsheen?
have no idea how you east coasters do it. but dang it's fun to be around ff at night! - michael sean wright
A lot of coke...uh...caffeine... - Rahsheen?
It looks like at least 5 or 6 yes votes, and 0 no votes. The logo is official. Now put it back into storage. - Pete D
Is there a theme song? - Rebecca Lasley
The theme song to Mr. Belvedere. - Pete D
I remember... :) - Micah
is it time? - michael sean wright
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams . So I think I'll go have some lunch. - David HC Soul
isn't time universal? - michael sean wright
Not sure about that, but: "Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future and time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present all time is unredeemable." - Swatch, Always Now, 1997 (and yes my lunch, at 1:42am local, is consisting of a double martini so that actually makes some sense to me) - David HC Soul
are you saying that time "now" has no meaning? i (obv.) reject this but toast your willingness to acknowledge the wisdom of a dean martin martini. now, for you sir, on to the work of most importance. focus on the permanent. - michael sean wright
Well, I will grant that the sentiment of French Marshall Lyautey has some merit (he asked his gardener to plant a tree and when the gardener objected that the tree was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years the Marshall was said to have replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose; plant it this afternoon!').... So I am off to plant some trees.... - David HC Soul
you, i like. and will point you to Hermann Hesse before he won the Nobel Prize for 'The Glass Bead Game' in which he wrote in in the idyllic poem "Hours in the Garden" (1936)- 'I hear music and see men of the past and future. I see wise men and poets and scholars and artists harmoniously building the hundred-gated cathedral of the Mind." - (forword to Glass Bead Game by by Hermann Hesse by Theodore Ziolkowski.) - michael sean wright
Thanks for the pointer - I'll go search it out. - David HC Soul
this is about conversation right? - michael sean wright from IM
I hope so. The thought is consuming much of my waking hours these days.... But I have to be up in 5 hours... so will have to return to the 'nightcrew' tomorrow night. One thing about time is it does seem to age one.... - David HC Soul
sleep perchance to dream, a wise man said. Billy Shakespeare. - michael sean wright
Then pause now to ask yourself the following question: "Am I dreaming or awake, right now?" - David HC Soul
remember when? - michael sean wright
Yes, sir. - Akiva
You bet I remember. :) - Micah from FFHound!
HAH!!! - Rahsheen?
WHAT! WHAT!!!! - DB, Just DB #TeamMonique
Attention friendfeed nightcrew: have we circled each other yet on @GooglePlusTweet (google +) ? http://gplus.to/nicefishfilms - michael sean wright
man, most of the ppl who liked this i haven't seen on FF in ages. maybe i'm doing it wrong. - Hieronymous Boosh
for most of us we met here, stayed loyal here but the sun set long ago : ( what a rush of a time that was! now we find ourselves over at g+ telling stories of the good ol' days! - michael sean wright
Why, hello there, 2008. :) - Micah
...and keep the fire alive by finding each other again in a new place. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
yep.. scoble and i talked about that in my first post at g+ : ) - michael sean wright
Hi Michael :) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Meme-inless no more! always been an interesting world with you! - michael sean wright
oh and... i do have some google+ invites left - email me nicefishfilms at g ma i l dot co m - michael sean wright
I'm curious now - did google + make you come back to FF? Because that is v interesting. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
yes, we did the podcast when ff was acquired by the book of face.. watched them absorb the real-time elements and i check in from time to time usually through this post as it brings back very fond memories. google + reminds me of the early days of ff - haven't felt that way about any of the social nets that have come since the facedbooked swallow up. heaven knows we've been on them all and they seem so ancient now -- quora anyone? google got it right with +. think it marks the next era for them. - michael sean wright
Google + right now does remind me of the FF glory days and I am curious to see what happens next. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
:) - Anne Bouey
BUMP - bde from Android
Live4Emma (L4S)
"Sun Tattoo is a soft stencil which can be used for making the tattoo pattern on the skin by sunshine. It’s better to use it with sunless tanning cream." ~~~~ ehhhhhhh o_O - Live4Emma (L4S) from Bookmarklet
LOL - Mona Nomura
So when you get skin cancer, it's in a pretty shape? Mmhmm.... - Will Higgins™
Will: Melanoma shaped flowers. Beautiful. - Manuel Mas
Did anyone else notice that is not a before and after pic? Also, my mom and I totally thought of this on a small scale, like temporary tattoo kinda things. - Heather
@Geoff Sometimes I have an overwhelming compulsion to vote up comments (too much StackOverflow) ... Couch ... <chuckle> - Tom Horn
妙にエロカッコイイな、これ。/Tatoo入れなくても身体に模様入れることができることはよーくわかった。 - Sakurai.Catshop from fftogo
Suddenly I feel the need to shop for doilies - James Watters
Oh yeah...make your own, James! o_O - Live4Emma (L4S) from iPhone
actually, I think it's kinda neat. - Chieze Okoye
crazy idea. LoL :) - Oguz Serdar
My brothers and I tried sun stenciling ourselves when we were kids. Despite our pale Irish skin cancer-prone complexions. - Spidra Webster
If you're someone who tans well and you can keep the paper close to your skin, it turns out well. If you're like me and go directly from pale to pink, which then fades to more freckles, not so much. - Spidra Webster
No way it would turn out that well defined. - Brad Connell
Denise Howell
What We Now Know from the “Twitter Epic Tweet Scandal” (@rizzn) #twil51 #twil - http://siliconangle.com/blog...
Paul Buchheit
ha nice! - Wesley Barrow
from '95 - Paul Buchheit
Summer intern? - Mike Doeff
Yeah, Sanjeev was also there that same summer as it turns out. - Paul Buchheit
oooh look at how young and cute Paul is! :) very cool that you saved this! What was your job title then (intern for ______)? What location did you work at? Does that # mean you were the 39,325 employee hired by M$? - Susan Beebe
I bet I could find mine if I tried, too. - Gabe
I wish I still had my Apple badge. They made me give it back when I left. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Do I sense a meme coming? - Chris Lamprecht
Yeah, unfortunately I don't seem to have any pics of my Sun badge, so I can't collect the whole set :( - Paul Buchheit
bummer! collection is busted - Susan Beebe
my work badges are boring white - no logo..nothing - designed for max security I guess - Susan Beebe
Gary, Paul and I both worked in Redmond. Paul worked on Plus! Setup. - Gabe
Oooh I remember Plus! that was really cool and made Win95 rock! - Susan Beebe
Ex-PM in Developer Tools here. Visual J++ for the um, ... - DeWitt Clinton
Maybe it would be more efficient for everyone who didn't work at Microsoft to raise their hand. - DeWitt Clinton
I worked on Win NT, debugging OLE. It was pretty bad because the NT OLE code was fine; all the bugs were in 16-bit OLE apps. There are few things worse than debugging interactions between two 16-bit apps you don't have the source to! - Gabe
Wow, 16 bit OLE. Why didn't you force everyone to use 32bit Word and Excel? It would've been very Apple of you. - Eric - seven eleven
Yup, Redmond. I think I worked in building 4, which may not exist anymore, and lived across the street at "Timberlawn". I worked on the installer for "Plus Pack for Windows 95". - Paul Buchheit
Eric, it gets worse: one of the first apps I had to look at was Ichitaro, Japan's #1 word processor at the time. It sure would have made things easier if I could have forced everybody to only use 32-bit English apps! - Gabe
Awesome, Paul. - Christopher Sacca
I tried, and I can't remember my ORCL employee number any more! Does that mean I've finally put it all out behind me? - Tudor Bosman
My Intel WWID was 10599476, but I get the feeling that they added at least 10,000,000 to the employee number to generate that value. - Paul Buchheit
I've already forgotten my Google employee number. I think my Yahoo! number was right around 9000... - Kevin Fox
Ok here's a picture of my current ones I mentioned - sorta boring white plan ID badges http://friendfeed.com/e... - Susan Beebe
At least they gave you a top-30 number at Google :) - Charlie Anzman
Once again proving that you're "kind of a big deal". Nice badge! - Randy Holloway from twhirl
*swoon* - Yuvi
I wonder if it was some kind of foresight to hang on to your old Microsoft badges, but not your diplomas. - Clare Dibble
Nice, a blue badge. I consult for Microsoft and have an Orange badge. - Alan Le
Wow! I was there that same summer interning for "Office Team Manager" I must have started a week or 2 before you as my employee number was 39207. - Joe Beda
I think I returned my badge, so I can't remember what my employee number was. I worked on porting the standard ms installer from windows to the mac. - Private Sanjeev
Sanjeev - a worthy cause for sure! :P - Susan Beebe
It was a piece of code that Ben Slivka wrote to produce cab files :) - Private Sanjeev
#39325 @ Microsoft. #23 @ Google. Do you have an ID at Google? ;) - AJ Batac
My MS ID was #38440 @ Microsoft... There were around 17k employees when I joined in 1995. - Steve Lacey
Microsoft badge #36419, joined 6/94 - peter
You seem very happy in this picture. There's still so much hope and optimism in that face. - April Buchheit
Old school. - "Joey"
Bubbling entry to make the Microsoft people (http://friendfeed.com/paul...) feel better (or worse) :) - Paul Buchheit
Bubbling? Is that what the kids are calling it these days? - Gabe
those are nice glasses :) - bob
They are nice glasses, aren't they? Maybe I should switch back. - Paul Buchheit
cute Paul :D - Nimaa
You look not unlike Bill in that photo. - Kevin Fox
Robert Scoble
CES (Consumer Electronics Show). Everything you need to know, share and discuss here: #ces2010
come back in a while, I'll fill this up with info. - Robert Scoble
Calendar on Upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/tag... (add your event please!) - Robert Scoble
I published my 'tips' here: http://penguinsix.com/2009... Tip 1: Keep your luggage tag as LAS airport requires them for checked bags. And others (like rent a car cause you'll never get a cab). - Andrew Leyden
For folks still looking for a press badge: http://siliconangle.com/groups... - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Hotel Scoble's staying in: Trump Towers. Hotel everything for bloggers is happening at? Wynn (across the street). Hint: I'll be at the Wynn a lot more than my own hotel. - Robert Scoble
What are the "must see" gadgets? Last year the Schwinn bike was one. The guy who showed me that is saying that Sanyo has a cool bike this year: http://twitter.com/dpoliti... - Robert Scoble
Is there a blogger lounge this year? I've heard of a few of them but haven't gotten details. - Robert Scoble
I'm looking forward to see the Boxee Box, could that be one of the most anticipated gadgets of the show? - Oscar Yasser Noriega
CES official site: http://www.cesweb.org/ It's in Las Vegas next week. Most of us are arriving on Wednesday and going home Saturday. - Robert Scoble
Best press event? Showstoppers on Thursday night. That's where you'll see all the cool small companies. http://www.showstoppers.com/ - Robert Scoble
Isn't Lenovo having a blogger lounge thing/party? - Andrew Leyden
Best party for bloggers? The "It Won't Stay in Vegas CES Blogger Party." http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event... -- gotta have an invite to this, but I hear a few celebrities will be there. - Robert Scoble
CNET has a CES page with their best of innovations awards: http://ces.cnet.com/ - Robert Scoble
We should start a drinking game. First game? Everytime an ebook reader gets announced you have to take a drink. If I play I will be very drunk within the first hour. - Robert Scoble
Google News for CES: http://news.google.com/news... lots of early press releases covered here. - Robert Scoble
Anything else we need to link in here? - Robert Scoble
I like going to the 'Asia' room at CES because there you meet the factory reps of all the tech manufacturers and some of the really wacky things they have dreamed up. - Andrew Leyden
Yeah, and Rocky is coming with me with our big Panasonic gear. But I'll also try to do some live stuff as well with my Droid. - Robert Scoble
Andrew: yeah, those rooms are always fun to see where gadgets will go over next year. - Robert Scoble
FTR if I go this will be my first year at CES amazingly - really hoping I can make it - Jesse Stay
Ben Parr: what is Mashable expecting will be the coolest press conference at CES? - Robert Scoble
Still debating whether I want to go or not. Haven't reserved a room but the boyfriend wants to go. It has nothing to do with AVN being at the same time, nothing at all. - EricaJoy
Wish these guys would come East once in a while. Miami, Jax, Savannah, Charleston, D.C. -- all are fun towns. - Ward Mundy
EricaJoy: This is my 7th CES and I've never seen so many last minute hotels still available. Usually you have to go as far as 30 miles away this late in the game, but there are still options. - Andrew Leyden
Andrew, that's partly why I'm considering going this year - Jesse Stay
I deleted comments here that didn't have much to do with CES, just to keep this all on topic. - Robert Scoble
Jesse: I've never seen rooms so cheap. I saw $89 at Luxor and we're paying $200 for Trump Towers (brand new hotel). - Robert Scoble
Ward: even with a much smaller size CES can't be in any other town than Vegas. It's that big. Still will be more than 100,000 attendees. - Robert Scoble
Luxor, Circus Circus, Excalibur, and several other places off the strip are < $100 a night this year. - Andrew Leyden
Robert, yeah - prices are amazing right now. I'm thinking about driving my new Mustang down there just for the roadtrip. - Jesse Stay
Jesse: getting there is a bit of a challenge. United was trying to charge me $800 for a roundtrip. SOuthwest is $400 (from SFO). I'd drive. You probably will beat some people who have to wait in security lines, etc. - Robert Scoble
I love the Utah->Las Vegas trip, so long as there's no snow storm! - Jesse Stay
One tip? Order a limo instead of wait for a taxi. Taxi lines in Vegas can be more than an hour long. - Robert Scoble
Vaibhav: nope, my family is staying home for this one. Little Milan is a real troublemaker in planes now. - Robert Scoble
Another tip if you're on a budget: Get the week-long bus pass and you can just take the bus up and down the strip for really cheap. - Jesse Stay
Or, if you're driving, Valet at almost every hotel is free. Average person tips $2-$3, so that's cheap as well. - Jesse Stay
If I go, I'm driving. From San Jose. Oi. - EricaJoy from IM
Jesse: someday I'll tell you a story when I was broke in Vegas, walking home from the Dvorak party (which was really big at Comdex, Bill Gates was there). I met some interesting people on the walk home (it's about four miles down the strip if I remember right). - Robert Scoble
Erica: we did that in a bus last year and the bus broke down. Hopefully our plane doesn't break down. Expect to spend 11 hours on the road, less if you drive very fast and don't stop long. - Robert Scoble
Bill Gates brought his dad for his first Comdex appearance. I think he ran the projector. :-) - Ward Mundy
Sounds like an interesting story - I'd definitely love to hear it. - Jesse Stay
Another thing I want to do some time is tour the tunnels underneath and get pictures. There's an entire city underneath the city of homeless people. - Jesse Stay
Ward: one of my favorite experiences of the 1990s was walking around Comdex/Windows World with Bill and talking to him about Visual Basic and just in time compilers. - Robert Scoble
I'm a drive fast and hard kind of lady. I only stop when I have to make a bio-break and I average 80-90mph. - EricaJoy from IM
Erica: use Waze and report any speed traps so other geeks don't get caught. :-) - Robert Scoble
Is Leo Laporte driving a Ford/Lincoln Urban Assault Vehicle? Maybe you could hitch a ride. - Andrew Leyden
Andrew: yeah, I hear Laporte is going with Ford who is sponsoring his show. Me? I already have a flight down there. I've done the driving thing too many years now. - Robert Scoble
For those still considering going, avoid flying in Wed. It's sold out. Just come on Thursday and try to go on Sat. You can still find some good airfares (I just booked mine Thursday AM / Sat. for $300 from Washington DC) - Andrew Leyden
I just talked with someone who knows CES very well and knows a lot of the Engadget/Gizmodo tech press. He says there's some things that are interesting, but overall he hasn't seen any really exciting announcements coming. I keep hoping that there'll be something more interesting than yet another copy of the Kindle or yet another Netbook. Anyone? - Robert Scoble
Oscar: latest version of boxee release http://blog.boxee.tv/2009... is exciting, since the software is crossplatform - Mike Chelen
I recently got an invite to Boxee beta. It's pretty sweet. Wish I could write on it, but NDA. I'd be interested to see this new Boxee Box with the Nvidia Ion that they're talking about running it on. - Justin Drew
Palm is going to wow some people with their announcement if they really are doing OpenGL and native apps as it appears they will, rather than just announce Palm Pre/Pixi on Verizon with a possible size bump which is what had been expected. - Joshua Lee
Justin: probably Intel Atom 330 (1.6GHz, dual-core) with GeForce 9400 like http://www.newegg.com/Product... nice compact ITX board - Mike Chelen
Mike: thanks for the link, looks like an interesting piece of tech. What I'm really looking forward to seeing are "hopefully" playable demos for Project Natal and Sony's motion controller. - Justin Drew
The Geek's Guide to Las Vegas for CES 2010 - 5th Annual Edition! http://bit.ly/7hpIOg - Brian Benz
Hey Robert - you still thinking about coming up for Sundance at the end of January? - Jesse Stay
Jonathan Hardesty
Fuck you, Kay Jewelers and Jarod's. Your commercials really make humanity out to be a bunch of retarded lemmings.
Every time my wife and I see one, we always quote the Family Guy spoof... "Diamonds, she'll pretty much have to..." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
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Adam Helweh
The Phone-O-Scope: Attaching SLR lenses to an iPhone - http://cow.mooh.org/2009...
The Phone-O-Scope: Attaching SLR lenses to an iPhone
Shey
Sorry FriendFeed, But I Agree With Robert Scoble - http://www.sheysmith.com/2009...
FriendFeed
I agree with you that things are incredibly cliquey here, which is an unfortunate side effect of less fresh meat. I think there's a difference between the content of Scoble's point and how he presented that point: Scoble, in many ways, is like a kid in a candy store. He's overstimulated with a constant influx of new tech candy, and it's becomes hard to take his recommendations... more... - Mark Trapp
It doesn't give him a pass to be a jerk about it. It was very disrespectful to everyone in the screenshot he posted. - Rodfather
That's a good distinction Mark. And you hit the nail on the head in terms of one of my main points which is the "less fresh meat". - Shey
That's an important distinction too Monique. Thanks - Shey
Yeah, I can actually agree with Shey here. It's unfortunate that things have gone in this direction. I'm not afraid of getting jumped on for something I post or a comment I make, but I'm thinking most people are a little more conservative than I. FriendFeed isn't dead, it's just different. I also stand by the comment I have made on various occasions: Your FriendFeed is unique and... more... - Rahsheen?
Mark nailed it. +++ - Carlos Ayala
Rahsheen: that's just the rub. Let's say I want to follow all the iPhone app developers. They just aren't here. 90% are over on Twitter: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... Or, say I want to follow the world's geolocation experts. They aren't here (go ahead and check, I did). But they are here: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... Or, say you want to follow tech companies. They aren't here. But they are here: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... -- see, when I joined FriendFeed I had hoped... - Robert Scoble
...that a far more diverse group of folks would show up here (and brands and celebrities) so that I COULD listen to what I wanted and YOU could listen to what YOU wanted and we all could be happy. But, that didn't happen. I'm being a jerk, yes, but mostly it's just grief because it didn't work out the way I thought it would. - Robert Scoble
Well, two things happen in a lifeboat scenario. People get cliquey (bond close together to cope/survive) and people peer into others eyes and wonder if mania or cannibalism is brewing. People are civilized and instinctual, so there is no inevitable outcome, but in the mean time drama ensues. - Micah
I can exist in more than one place. I can follow the people on Robert's list on Twitter and my friends here on FriendFeed and my family/friends on Facebook. Social Media Maturity means you don't have to have all your sets of friends in the one room for you to remain being friends with them. - Johnny from iPhone
Shey, I think this title is a little misleading. As others have said here, I think you're saying something very different from what Robert said, or at least in a very different, much more palatable way. I think you're being more specific and not so general (SOME people's experiences here aren't so great. It's not horrible for everyone.) - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
"clique" implies exclusionary behaviours, and i have yet to witness that in any great quantity here. - Hieronymous Boosh
If i was robert I would have added all his twitter list accounts to a semi-public room here on friendfeed.... much more useful in here than over there (imho) -- you can use the reply to twitter checkbox when commenting on the entries and when they reply to you it should feed into friendfeed via an ego search.... i do this exactly, but i only follow 64 ppl on twitter and am followed by... more... - Chris Heath
@Kamilah Fair assessment. I agree with Robert's assessment of the forum effect. But we're different users when it comes to Friendfeed and we want to see different things - Shey
I agree that FriendFeed has changed since the FB announcement, but I've been here long enough (and you have too, Shey) to have seen it change several times as people came in and left with various feature changes and overhauls. It will continue to morph into something else again, I'm sure. It's a platform that is suited to a lot of purposes and it changes as the majority of people decide... more... - Lindsay
This also assumes that FriendFeed is used exclusively in English... - Johnny
At first I thought Friendfeed was a refuge for the chummy crowd. Then I saw Johnny Worthington was here and I knew it couldn't be a clique. Sorted. - Bernie Goldbach
Why cannot FriendFeed be used just as much as everything else. In the social media world, the more points of connection, the better. - Steve Borgman
WOW good post, and comments,+Mark +Chris, Kamillah I agree the title is misleading differing from Scoble as per Mark's comment. And after after the drop from the big sell to FB, albeit Scoble had all the tact of someone yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre, people listen to him, the criticism still resonates, and the fact is user #s keep dropping. And consequently I find FF myself less interested, signing in less, it's not as "breaking" as it once was, there's less posts/shares/activity, especially re Tech - sofarsoShawn
Glenn Slaven
Physics Bumper Sticker
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I want this sticker! - Glenn Slaven
And I'll be stealing your car soon - Mo Kargas
You really wouldn't want it, I've got 4 kids remember :), see second photo down here http://peapillybean.com.au/2009... - Glenn Slaven from IM
Excellent. - Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Hehe they look happy - Mo Kargas
My children are always happy! *shakes fist* - Glenn Slaven
That's several different kinds of awesome. - Ciaoenrico
Most awesome! - Kurt Starnes
Alex Scrivener
"Kenneth, I once took a low volume shower with Ed Begley Jr. What more can I do?"
You can explain the preceeding statement, plz. - tehKenny
Best. show. on. television. - Mary Carmen
I just watched that episode last night. I watched five 30Rocks in a row on Hulu (too much coffee). - Laura Norvig
"Donage saves GE, marries your mom" Goddamn, why have I not seen this show? - tehKenny
Tyson Key
If "user data is sacred", and "user time is precious", then why do we still put up with archaic file systems and implementations of them that are more than happy to corrupt data silently, or otherwise decay over time; and bloated, inefficient software with awful UIs that were seemingly designed to frustrate users?
1. Because making things better requires more than just an awareness of how things suck? 2. The resources required to update archaic file systems, etc. are resources which could be used in an alternate manner, and people do chose to use those resources on some other goal. 3. Because there is fortunately no "we" that can just put it's foot down and say "Everyone - update your archaic file systems and switch to this UI, or you will feel our wrath!". There's a few possibilities. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
just cuz - sofarsoShawn
Valid points there, SuezanneC Baskerville. Of course, I don't expect overnight transitions, or even miracles - after all, I'm used to being disappointed, and hearing news of vapourware that was supposedly going to revolutionise everything... - Tyson Key
Designing good software is hard, designing good UI can be REALLY hard. One of the bigger problems with UI is no two consecutive users will even agree on what is good and bad. You can get users to agree that a UI is good when its finished and they see it and it is good, but the process to getting there when starting from scratch is really hard. Good UI designers are under appreciated artists of the software development world and most of them seem to be at Apple. - Ed Millard
The problem with bloated and inefficient is that most software starts life being designed for functionality, as in we want it to do this, and then at the end of its life cycle the goal is getting all the bugs out. Performance and bloat are frequently pushed to the bottom of the priority list, unless performance is critical to market success which it often isn't. - Ed Millard
After all, we're still using the abomination that is the FAT family of file systems, decades after their introduction for interchange purposes, despite superior technologies being developed in that space of time... (Just an example). - Tyson Key
What FS are you proposing as an interchange standard? I think FAT is still dominant because Windows is still dominant and Microsoft wont adopt anything it didn't invent which mostly leaves FAT and NTFS. FAT is a lot simpler than NTFS and you generally want simple for interchange and something being integrated in a lot of consumer electronics. - Ed Millard
Hmm. Tyson, A switch to a different filesystem (for example a journaling one, or one that incorporates various forms of fault-tolerance) would do *nothing* to fix UI problems (even paradigmatic ones). You're talking about two mostly unrelated problems, except insofar as they are both exacerbated by the momentum of user behavior and acceptance. - Michael R. Bernstein
I know. I never said that they were related, and I guess that I mis-phrased my initial post. It was intended as food for thought, though. - Tyson Key
@Ed - UDF is more than suitable, although of course, persuading vendors and users alike to switch would be an impossible task, as mentioned. - Tyson Key
On the subject of performance tuning, and bloat reduction, a lot of things have been proposed in the past, although they haven't always yielded viable results. Naturally, it doesn't help that "bloat" is subjective, or that hardware development is progressing at a markedly different pace, either. - Tyson Key
We've tried "hyper-modularity" previously with microkernel-based OSes, component-based document creation technology (e.g. OpenDoc), and client-server software architectures, amongst other things, in the hope that "bloat" can be reduced, and performance/reliability can be increased, and the plans backfired in various ways. (Developers and users either decried the results as "slow", "clunky" or as generally being difficult to develop with)... - Tyson Key
UDF seems possible, though they seem to be marketing it only as a standard for optical media. Its not clear if it would be a good fit for Flash drives, though maybe it is. If the Wikipedia chart is correct it appears there is sufficient OS support for 1.5 it could be a standard. The next battle would presumably to get device makers to support it(i.e. cameras, phone), and there could be inertia there. - Ed Millard
It makes the most sense from a compatibility perspective, given that Mac OS X, Linux, Solaris and a number of reasonably cheap devices support it well, and that it's possible to use it on Flash and magnetic media (as Iomega have done in the past with Jaz disks and their Rev product line). - Tyson Key
Sadly, Microsoft were predictably slow to jump on the bandwagon with non-optical support - formatting support was added to Windows Vista, but is only exposed as an argument to a CLI utility, and said implementation is incompatible with most other implementations, due to a non-standard quirk/defect that may have been added in an attempt to sabotage interoperability with other implementations... - Tyson Key
Barring a few low-quality implementations on the Windows platform by third-parties, UDF happens to support metadata from various OSes natively in a safe manner (i.e. implementations that don't know how to manipulate a piece of metadata will simply ignore it, but will also add their own, if necessary - as happens when sharing a volume between Linux and Mac OS X). - Tyson Key
Since Microsoft won its FAT patents in 2006, I think their goal was to make FAT licensing a revenue stream, a means for influencing the device market, and to annoy competitors like Linux and Mac. It would be like them to intentionally obstruct UDF for purely business reasons. Let's hope the Supreme Court case on process patents ends some of this madness soon, though I wouldn't count on it. - Ed Millard
It's a shame that some will actively subvert standards, and aim to deliberately prevent any chance of natural interoperability occurring. C'est la vie, though. :( - Tyson Key
It doesn't help that Microsoft are planning on unleashing yet another, patent-infested FAT variant upon the world, in the form of exFAT, either - which is planned for use in the upcoming SDXC Flash media standard. I believe that people are working on reverse-engineering it, though. - Tyson Key
Well I guess we answered one of your original questions. We end up with bad technology sometimes because there are big, powerful, companies who have a vested interest in and profit off it. Microsoft certainly isn't the only one, they've just historically been the best at it. - Ed Millard
Andrew Mueller
Twitter Lists Break Down Barriers to Adoption and Gives More Power to the Influential « The SiliconANGLE http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
Barb
The Law of Social Media: Trademarks, Genericide and “Twittersquatting” (Part III) « The SiliconANGLE - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
Twittersquatting? The Oxford English Dictionary must be roiling at this point with what we have done to language. As to content, this is really all about Intellectual Property and Attention Gestures. - Barb
John Furrier
Cisco's M&A strategy called a failure by Breakingviews http://www.breakingviews.com/2009... - a decade is enough - interesting
Louis Gray
What Comes After the Real Time Web - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
on second thought, I'll take the red pill - Stuart Miniman
Steve Moore
The Law of Social Media (Part I) - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
legal implications and the future - Steve Moore
Louis Gray
Family Togetherness Time
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Look at them sleeping. So daggone cute! - Hutch Carpenter
Looks like Dad got a bit of schwag, too... :) - Mark Dykeman
awesome! - Thomas Hawk
Where are the FF onesies?! :-) - JA Castillo
The FF onesies are way too big. My "biggest" kid is five pounds. When these guys get 3-6 months, let the schwag wagon roll. - Louis Gray
Link bait! :) - Andrew Baron
awwwww - Michelle Trent
Do they have FF accounts yet? - Johnny
aww gorgeous :) and the babies too! - Allison
LOL that is alll kinds of win - Mona Nomura
I've always thought it's important to establish brand awareness early on. Good job ;-) - Jonathon
So, what are their domains and RSS feeds? I need to add them as imaginary friends for now. - Rob Diana
Peace. That's the word that comes to my mind :) - directeur from NoiseRiver
good thing they are always this happy. right! - Tim Connors
I want that shirt! - James Hull
totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet! - Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day! - Sarah Perez
Cute as a button. Akiva you crack me up. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker from fftogo
@Rob Reed: Awesome! - April Buchheit
Kinda wished I had some FF schwag to wear with the newborn on the way. - Randy Hall
The first marriage on FF cannot compete with this. - Russellreno
Congratz. - Bill Bittner
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;) - Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself. - Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those? - Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa! - Susan Beebe
cool beans! workin on those biceps! - Melissa Davis from twhirl
bring on the schwag, very cool pictures indeed - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bump for good times - Jesse Stay
Greg Ness
Fwd: @VanessaAlvarez1 @andrewmueller thanks for the support; siliconangle is a self funded community of peers so any help getting the word out (via http://friendfeed.com/johnfur...)
Robert Scoble
Cool iPhone augmented reality toolkit just demoed to cheers. Details:
From http://twitter.com/haseman... At #iphonedevcamp The first version of #ARkit our #opensource #AugmentedReality toolkit for iPhone3GS http://su.pr/2bVfPv about 3 hours ago from web - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Augmented reality is really taking off! The weekly Best Buy ad in the newspaper has an AR tag on the cover. It works at http://bestbuyin3d.com - Pete Barry
Awesome! Did they show the ghosts? I was helping with that part =) - Kevin Cheng
Any idea how we make use of the toolkit, there is new download at the link, I'm new to iPhone Dev, so I'm probably missing something. - Keith Moon
It is new and I don't have all the details yet. Yes, they showed the ghosts. Funny! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
What does augmented reality mean ? - Mark from iPhone
Mark you aim your iPhone at things and it tells you about them. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
So I would aim it at a poster for a west end show and I would get reviews and tickets etc ? - Mark from iPhone
Android has more and better augmented reality. There are more Android phones out there than iphone 3gs, soon about a dozen new Android phones are coming out from Samsung, Dell, Acer, Huawei, Philips, Motorola, Archos, Asus, Creative and others - Charbax
Mark: that is part of it but think the world, not apps. Go watch some videos on YouTube to see what AR does. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Will do when I get home on my wifi the 3g sucks here on iphne - Mark from iPhone
Robert, remember the ghosts on iPhone ARKit? We have a beta that's almost ready for the appstore. If you have a 3GS, let me know and we can get you a test version if you like! - Kevin Cheng
Johnny
You know Dora and Boots... If you weren't fiddle-assing around working out how to get there, singing songs, catching stars and asking me for help on even the most basic tasks every 10 seconds, you wouldn't be in such a rush to get to the baseball game... Just sayin'
I want to know why nobody has shot Swiper yet. - Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Bridge, rock, LIBRARY! - Bryce Roney from iPhone
I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'M THE MAP! - Headless Gnad Kicker
James Watters
Nokia boycott may be unjustified - First Post - http://news.google.com/news...
Robert Scoble
RT: Yahoo may have given Iranian government names, e-mail addresses of 200K users during crackdown. http://government.zdnet.com/... (via @mike_elgan)
I'm inclined to give Yahoo a pass - at least until the facts came out. The Iranian "investigators" and protestors were completely wrong about Nokia based on a faulty report from the Wall Street Journal (one that has STILL not been corrected). - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Michael McKean
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever - http://www.physorg.com/news174...
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever
"Physicists at Yale University have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current," a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power source." - Michael McKean from Bookmarklet
Woah: "The counterintuitive current is the result of a quantum mechanical effect that influences how electrons travel through metals, and arises from the same kind of motion that allows the electrons inside an atom to orbit the nucleus forever. " - Todd Hoff
Veronica
He still looks THE SAME!
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That's what Time Dilation does to you, all that wrap 9in' the Galaxy is great for your skin - Fee501st
He looks VERY good for his age. - Alex Knight
Suspiciously good... - Amy
The first picture, of course, is from Dune... when was that, 1986? - Veronica
I want to be like this man. - Andru Edwards
Not EXACTLY the same, but he's aged WELL. - Thunderwing from twhirl
Temba, his arms wide/open - Fleagle
Look at this pic, it says he 27 in it, but he doent look all that different http://www.spotlightcd.com/hallfam... - Fee501st
Eh? He's never 27 in that pic! - Amy
ever seen a pic of him as a baby? i think he might look the same. lol (darmok at tanagra) - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I think so! :) - Amy
Veronica, Dune was made in 1984! - Fee501st
He's 44 in that Dune pic? - Amy
Yea, he was 44 then and 69 now! - Fee501st
Jonathan: lol yeah :) - Amy
Jonathan: that is great episode! "I Seen it all" - Fee501st
Patrick Stewart is awesome! I enjoyed watching that guy in Star trek new generation - Alexander Herrera
All those trips through the transporter. - Tony C (Unrated)
Why did they even have to de-age him in X-Men 3 and Wolverine: Origins? - Jason Wong
I only hope I age half as well as he has. - Carlos Urrutia from Android
He needs a new hair cut - Mark from iPhone
make it so, ;) - chaz2b
Special FX. - George Brickner
You know, it helps if you're bald and quite thin at 44. - Jason Nunnelley
I loved his appearance on The Family Guy! Brilliant send up of his character. - travispuk
I heard his secret is a daily application of Japanese semen. - deleted
He's looked the same for the last 30 yrs or more, lol. - Araceli
EricaJoy
boyfriend said I cannot get him this jedi bath robe because the symbol of the rebellion on it is a glaring continuity error. *sigh* - http://technabob.com/blog...
boyfriend said I cannot get him this jedi bath robe because the symbol of the rebellion on it is a glaring continuity error. *sigh*
Geeeeeeeeeeeek check! ;) - Josh Haley from iPhone
Hehe both of us are indeed huge geeks. - EricaJoy
:) - Josh Haley from iPhone
Hrm.... I actually need a new bath robe... *rubs chin and stares off into the distance* - Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Your boyfriend sounds pretty cool. LOL - iTad
the symbol doesn't look like the rebel alliance symbol... is there another symbol of the rebellion that i'm not familiar with? what is the symbol, exactly? - Dan Hsiao
so a google search reveals that it's actually a symbol of the jedi order: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki..., so it's legit? :) - Dan Hsiao
use the force - Robert Higgins
Holy crap. I don't know how to handle this. If I tell him he was wrong about Star Wars, the conversation may end poorly. I will have to think... - EricaJoy
"Unexpected this is. And unfortunate." - Dan Hsiao
It is, however, probably still not canon. - Brian Chang
Kol Tregaskes
Do specific messages (blips?) within a wave have a link? That would be very useful, like permalinks for every FF comment #wave #googlewave
Adam Ostrow
pretty sure this Google Wave thing is just an elaborate prank, much like Gmail Paper - http://mail.google.com/mail...
Johnny
Let's take the drugs and rape out of the equation for a second. Sex with kids is illegal, even if it is consensual. Plain and simple.... Talent (and time) should never excuse douchebaggery.
If this was a businessman and a 13 year old girl or boy in Thailand, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. - Johnny from IM
Course not, the law should be constant and universal. Status, money, lifetime achievement shouldn't be a free pass to do what you want. Commence with the arse-kicking I say. - Mo Kargas
What did I miss? - Headless Gnad Kicker
A crime committed in the 70's... I'd say about time! - Bonnie Foster from iPod
I was blown away by the press conference and the people wearing the "Free Polanski" ribbons. I don't get it. - Dennis O'Neil
I'm digging for the link now... - Dennis O'Neil
This isn't the one I saw earlier, but still the same.. http://www.dailymotion.com/video... - Dennis O'Neil
Castration would be a benefit in these cases. But wait, there's also many laws and such that say sodomy is illegal, even if consensual. Where do we draw the line with legislating sexuality and morality? - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
Sally.... Kids is an easy start. - Johnny from iPhone
I do agree with the kids thing, because children don't have the ability to make informed decisions about the topic. Other than that, I'm opposed to rules that regulate us based on "morality" or "decency" - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
I'm okay with laws that regulate moral and decent behavior in public. I also think that what consenting adults do in private should remain private. That includes people who feel the need to display their perversions in public, including public sexual displays like parades that are marketed as "pride" events. - David C. Cooper
"regulate moral and decent behavior in public"!? Who decides? - Tinfoil 2.0
We the people decide, this is America. - David C. Cooper
This was more than just molesting a 13 year old girl. And the only tragedy of justice is that he was allowed to plead down to that charge in the first place before fleeing. He manipulatively and brutally raped this girl. He was originally charged with 6 counts including the rape charge that if convicted would have sent him to prison for life. He deserves to be extradited, charged with all 6 counts and any new ones stemming from his flight and spend the rest of his life in prison. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, on your advice I read the transcripts and was also amazed (and disgusted) that he could have gotten any of the charges reduced or thrown out. However, I don't agree that he should be brought back and tried for the original 6 charges. Charged and tried for fleeing etc yes, definitely. I think retrying people for past crimes based on modern law is a slippery slope and I'm not sure it's a precendent that should be set no matter what the crime. - Kenton
Not to mention double jeopardy. You can't be charged/convicted for the same crime twice. The original sentence should be imposed, open to appeal by prosecution for an extension, and he should be charged as appropriate for his flight, but re-charging him for something he's already been convicted of is illegal and unconstitutional. - Chris Charabaruk
Other problem: using words like "kids" - how to define? Puberty?? I mean, "age of consent" laws have always struck me as silly and quite arbitrary.. - Anthony Citrano
Anthony, I think the word is probably "minor" and it varies, but here in Australia a minor is any child under the age of 16. This does not mean that the person is an adult, however, so technically they are still a child until age 18. - Headless Gnad Kicker
Also, are you trying to argue that a 13 year old girl is NOT a child? - Headless Gnad Kicker
Even then, why does any man feel the need to chase after a female in that very young age range? Because it's too difficult to pursue one in the 'safe' age range? It's a pointless argument. There's nothing 'consenting' about that. You can't tell me Polanski wasn't smart enough, nor attractive enough to find someone in his range, rather than a child or young adolescent. - Mo Kargas
@Melly: yes, but (mostly) on another thread. ;) - Anthony Citrano
Susan Reynolds
RT @Captain_Marlow: Believing one's own propaganda can only lead to huge mistakes: Bush was well liked. http://captainmarlow.posterous.com/believi... BULLSEYE!
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