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Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Fuck you, Kay Jewelers and Jarod's. Your commercials really make humanity out to be a bunch of retarded lemmings.
Every time my wife and I see one, we always quote the Family Guy spoof... "Diamonds, she'll pretty much have to..." - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
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Adam Helweh
The Phone-O-Scope: Attaching SLR lenses to an iPhone - http://cow.mooh.org/2009...
The Phone-O-Scope: Attaching SLR lenses to an iPhone
Shey, Jamaican of FF
Sorry FriendFeed, But I Agree With Robert Scoble - http://www.sheysmith.com/2009...
FriendFeed
I agree with you that things are incredibly cliquey here, which is an unfortunate side effect of less fresh meat. I think there's a difference between the content of Scoble's point and how he presented that point: Scoble, in many ways, is like a kid in a candy store. He's overstimulated with a constant influx of new tech candy, and it's becomes hard to take his recommendations... more... - Mark Trapp
It doesn't give him a pass to be a jerk about it. It was very disrespectful to everyone in the screenshot he posted. - Rodfather
That's a good distinction Mark. And you hit the nail on the head in terms of one of my main points which is the "less fresh meat". - Shey, Jamaican of FF
See, Shey, you left space for open dialogue. You didn't come in and say it was "sad" and "dead". You just said YOUR usage has changed. You posted the exact opposite of what Robert did. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
That's an important distinction too Monique. Thanks - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I agree that things have gotten very cliquey here on FriendFeed. - Itachi
Yeah, I can actually agree with Shey here. It's unfortunate that things have gone in this direction. I'm not afraid of getting jumped on for something I post or a comment I make, but I'm thinking most people are a little more conservative than I. FriendFeed isn't dead, it's just different. I also stand by the comment I have made on various occasions: Your FriendFeed is unique and... more... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Mark nailed it. +++ - Carlos Ayala
Rahsheen: that's just the rub. Let's say I want to follow all the iPhone app developers. They just aren't here. 90% are over on Twitter: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... Or, say I want to follow the world's geolocation experts. They aren't here (go ahead and check, I did). But they are here: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... Or, say you want to follow tech companies. They aren't here. But they are here: http://twitter.com/Scoblei... -- see, when I joined FriendFeed I had hoped... - Robert Scoble
...that a far more diverse group of folks would show up here (and brands and celebrities) so that I COULD listen to what I wanted and YOU could listen to what YOU wanted and we all could be happy. But, that didn't happen. I'm being a jerk, yes, but mostly it's just grief because it didn't work out the way I thought it would. - Robert Scoble
Well, two things happen in a lifeboat scenario. People get cliquey (bond close together to cope/survive) and people peer into others eyes and wonder if mania or cannibalism is brewing. People are civilized and instinctual, so there is no inevitable outcome, but in the mean time drama ensues. - Micah Wittman
I can exist in more than one place. I can follow the people on Robert's list on Twitter and my friends here on FriendFeed and my family/friends on Facebook. Social Media Maturity means you don't have to have all your sets of friends in the one room for you to remain being friends with them. - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
Shey, I think this title is a little misleading. As others have said here, I think you're saying something very different from what Robert said, or at least in a very different, much more palatable way. I think you're being more specific and not so general (SOME people's experiences here aren't so great. It's not horrible for everyone.) - Kamilah Gill
Unless you just don't care; The clique thing never bothered me, I have two many of my own things going on. - ThatDBD
"clique" implies exclusionary behaviours, and i have yet to witness that in any great quantity here. - Joe Silence is not dead
If i was robert I would have added all his twitter list accounts to a semi-public room here on friendfeed.... much more useful in here than over there (imho) -- you can use the reply to twitter checkbox when commenting on the entries and when they reply to you it should feed into friendfeed via an ego search.... i do this exactly, but i only follow 64 ppl on twitter and am followed by... more... - Chris Heath
@Kamilah Fair assessment. I agree with Robert's assessment of the forum effect. But we're different users when it comes to Friendfeed and we want to see different things - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I agree that FriendFeed has changed since the FB announcement, but I've been here long enough (and you have too, Shey) to have seen it change several times as people came in and left with various feature changes and overhauls. It will continue to morph into something else again, I'm sure. It's a platform that is suited to a lot of purposes and it changes as the majority of people decide... more... - Lindsay
This also assumes that FriendFeed is used exclusively in English... - Johnny Worthington
At first I thought Friendfeed was a refuge for the chummy crowd. Then I saw Johnny Worthington was here and I knew it couldn't be a clique. Sorted. - Bernie Goldbach
Why cannot FriendFeed be used just as much as everything else. In the social media world, the more points of connection, the better. - Steve Borgman
WOW good post, and comments,+Mark +Chris, Kamillah I agree the title is misleading differing from Scoble as per Mark's comment. And after after the drop from the big sell to FB, albeit Scoble had all the tact of someone yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre, people listen to him, the criticism still resonates, and the fact is user #s keep dropping. And consequently I find FF myself less interested, signing in less, it's not as "breaking" as it once was, there's less posts/shares/activity, especially re Tech - sofarsoShawn
Glenn Slaven
Physics Bumper Sticker
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I want this sticker! - Glenn Slaven
And I'll be stealing your car soon - Mo Kargas
You really wouldn't want it, I've got 4 kids remember :), see second photo down here http://peapillybean.com.au/2009... - Glenn Slaven from IM
Hehe they look happy - Mo Kargas
My children are always happy! *shakes fist* - Glenn Slaven
That's several different kinds of awesome. - Ciaoenrico
Most awesome! - Kurt Starnes
Brilliant - Kamilah Gill
you have wonderful kids Slaven! - ffcode
Alex Scrivener
"Kenneth, I once took a low volume shower with Ed Begley Jr. What more can I do?"
You can explain the preceeding statement, plz. - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Best. show. on. television. - Mary Carmen
I just watched that episode last night. I watched five 30Rocks in a row on Hulu (too much coffee). - Laura Norvig
"Donage saves GE, marries your mom" Goddamn, why have I not seen this show? - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Duncan Riley
Davis Freeberg
How crazy is this? my insurance company just offered me life insurance for a pet (actual pet, not pet they think is human.) When I asked if they covered monkeys they said no :( but do cover dogs and cats. I told them to call me with a quote because I'm convinced that the rep must have made a mistake. Time to let Spot start playing in the road
Tyson Key
If "user data is sacred", and "user time is precious", then why do we still put up with archaic file systems and implementations of them that are more than happy to corrupt data silently, or otherwise decay over time; and bloated, inefficient software with awful UIs that were seemingly designed to frustrate users?
1. Because making things better requires more than just an awareness of how things suck? 2. The resources required to update archaic file systems, etc. are resources which could be used in an alternate manner, and people do chose to use those resources on some other goal. 3. Because there is fortunately no "we" that can just put it's foot down and say "Everyone - update your archaic file systems and switch to this UI, or you will feel our wrath!". There's a few possibilities. - SuezanneC Baskerville
just cuz - sofarsoShawn
Valid points there, SuezanneC Baskerville. Of course, I don't expect overnight transitions, or even miracles - after all, I'm used to being disappointed, and hearing news of vapourware that was supposedly going to revolutionise everything... - Tyson Key
Designing good software is hard, designing good UI can be REALLY hard. One of the bigger problems with UI is no two consecutive users will even agree on what is good and bad. You can get users to agree that a UI is good when its finished and they see it and it is good, but the process to getting there when starting from scratch is really hard. Good UI designers are under appreciated artists of the software development world and most of them seem to be at Apple. - Ed Millard
The problem with bloated and inefficient is that most software starts life being designed for functionality, as in we want it to do this, and then at the end of its life cycle the goal is getting all the bugs out. Performance and bloat are frequently pushed to the bottom of the priority list, unless performance is critical to market success which it often isn't. - Ed Millard
After all, we're still using the abomination that is the FAT family of file systems, decades after their introduction for interchange purposes, despite superior technologies being developed in that space of time... (Just an example). - Tyson Key
What FS are you proposing as an interchange standard? I think FAT is still dominant because Windows is still dominant and Microsoft wont adopt anything it didn't invent which mostly leaves FAT and NTFS. FAT is a lot simpler than NTFS and you generally want simple for interchange and something being integrated in a lot of consumer electronics. - Ed Millard
Hmm. Tyson, A switch to a different filesystem (for example a journaling one, or one that incorporates various forms of fault-tolerance) would do *nothing* to fix UI problems (even paradigmatic ones). You're talking about two mostly unrelated problems, except insofar as they are both exacerbated by the momentum of user behavior and acceptance. - Michael R. Bernstein
I know. I never said that they were related, and I guess that I mis-phrased my initial post. It was intended as food for thought, though. - Tyson Key
@Ed - UDF is more than suitable, although of course, persuading vendors and users alike to switch would be an impossible task, as mentioned. - Tyson Key
On the subject of performance tuning, and bloat reduction, a lot of things have been proposed in the past, although they haven't always yielded viable results. Naturally, it doesn't help that "bloat" is subjective, or that hardware development is progressing at a markedly different pace, either. - Tyson Key
We've tried "hyper-modularity" previously with microkernel-based OSes, component-based document creation technology (e.g. OpenDoc), and client-server software architectures, amongst other things, in the hope that "bloat" can be reduced, and performance/reliability can be increased, and the plans backfired in various ways. (Developers and users either decried the results as "slow", "clunky" or as generally being difficult to develop with)... - Tyson Key
UDF seems possible, though they seem to be marketing it only as a standard for optical media. Its not clear if it would be a good fit for Flash drives, though maybe it is. If the Wikipedia chart is correct it appears there is sufficient OS support for 1.5 it could be a standard. The next battle would presumably to get device makers to support it(i.e. cameras, phone), and there could be inertia there. - Ed Millard
It makes the most sense from a compatibility perspective, given that Mac OS X, Linux, Solaris and a number of reasonably cheap devices support it well, and that it's possible to use it on Flash and magnetic media (as Iomega have done in the past with Jaz disks and their Rev product line). - Tyson Key
Sadly, Microsoft were predictably slow to jump on the bandwagon with non-optical support - formatting support was added to Windows Vista, but is only exposed as an argument to a CLI utility, and said implementation is incompatible with most other implementations, due to a non-standard quirk/defect that may have been added in an attempt to sabotage interoperability with other implementations... - Tyson Key
Barring a few low-quality implementations on the Windows platform by third-parties, UDF happens to support metadata from various OSes natively in a safe manner (i.e. implementations that don't know how to manipulate a piece of metadata will simply ignore it, but will also add their own, if necessary - as happens when sharing a volume between Linux and Mac OS X). - Tyson Key
Since Microsoft won its FAT patents in 2006, I think their goal was to make FAT licensing a revenue stream, a means for influencing the device market, and to annoy competitors like Linux and Mac. It would be like them to intentionally obstruct UDF for purely business reasons. Let's hope the Supreme Court case on process patents ends some of this madness soon, though I wouldn't count on it. - Ed Millard
It's a shame that some will actively subvert standards, and aim to deliberately prevent any chance of natural interoperability occurring. C'est la vie, though. :( - Tyson Key
It doesn't help that Microsoft are planning on unleashing yet another, patent-infested FAT variant upon the world, in the form of exFAT, either - which is planned for use in the upcoming SDXC Flash media standard. I believe that people are working on reverse-engineering it, though. - Tyson Key
Well I guess we answered one of your original questions. We end up with bad technology sometimes because there are big, powerful, companies who have a vested interest in and profit off it. Microsoft certainly isn't the only one, they've just historically been the best at it. - Ed Millard
Andrew Mueller
Twitter Lists Break Down Barriers to Adoption and Gives More Power to the Influential « The SiliconANGLE http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
Barb
The Law of Social Media: Trademarks, Genericide and “Twittersquatting” (Part III) « The SiliconANGLE - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
Twittersquatting? The Oxford English Dictionary must be roiling at this point with what we have done to language. As to content, this is really all about Intellectual Property and Attention Gestures. - Barb
John Furrier
Cisco's M&A strategy called a failure by Breakingviews http://www.breakingviews.com/2009... - a decade is enough - interesting
Louis Gray
What Comes After the Real Time Web - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
Real Time Web's boyfriend, unless he's a jerk and doesn't wait for her. - Matthew DeVries
on second thought, I'll take the red pill - Stuart Miniman
Steve Moore
The Law of Social Media (Part I) - http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
legal implications and the future - Steve Moore
Louis Gray
Family Togetherness Time
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Look at them sleeping. So daggone cute! - Hutch Carpenter
Looks like Dad got a bit of schwag, too... :) - Mark Dykeman
awesome! - Thomas Hawk
Where are the FF onesies?! :-) - JA Castillo
The FF onesies are way too big. My "biggest" kid is five pounds. When these guys get 3-6 months, let the schwag wagon roll. - Louis Gray
FFTwins FTW! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Link bait! :) - Andrew Baron
@Louis you are such a product pimp ROFLMAO .. god love ya and yer family :) - Steven Hodson
awwwww - Michelle Trent
Do they have FF accounts yet? - Johnny Worthington
aww gorgeous :) and the babies too! - Allison
LOL that is alll kinds of win - Mona Nomura
I've always thought it's important to establish brand awareness early on. Good job ;-) - Jonathon
So, what are their domains and RSS feeds? I need to add them as imaginary friends for now. - Rob Diana
Peace. That's the word that comes to my mind :) - directeur from NoiseRiver
good thing they are always this happy. right! - Tim Connors
I want that shirt! - James Hull
totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet! - Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day! - Sarah Perez
Cute as a button. Akiva you crack me up. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker from fftogo
@Rob Reed: Awesome! - April Buchheit
Kinda wished I had some FF schwag to wear with the newborn on the way. - Randy Hall
The first marriage on FF cannot compete with this. - Russellreno
Congratz. - Bill Bittner
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;) - Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself. - Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those? - Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa! - Susan Beebe
cool beans! workin on those biceps! - TheMacMommy from twhirl
So cute! - marinka239
bring on the schwag, very cool pictures indeed - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bump for good times - Jesse Stay
Greg Ness
Fwd: @VanessaAlvarez1 @andrewmueller thanks for the support; siliconangle is a self funded community of peers so any help getting the word out (via http://friendfeed.com/johnfur...)
Robert Scoble
Cool iPhone augmented reality toolkit just demoed to cheers. Details:
From http://twitter.com/haseman... At #iphonedevcamp The first version of #ARkit our #opensource #AugmentedReality toolkit for iPhone3GS http://su.pr/2bVfPv about 3 hours ago from web - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Augmented reality is really taking off! The weekly Best Buy ad in the newspaper has an AR tag on the cover. It works at http://bestbuyin3d.com - Pete Barry
Awesome! Did they show the ghosts? I was helping with that part =) - Kevin Cheng
Any idea how we make use of the toolkit, there is new download at the link, I'm new to iPhone Dev, so I'm probably missing something. - Keith Moon
It is new and I don't have all the details yet. Yes, they showed the ghosts. Funny! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
What does augmented reality mean ? - Mark from iPhone
Mark you aim your iPhone at things and it tells you about them. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
So I would aim it at a poster for a west end show and I would get reviews and tickets etc ? - Mark from iPhone
Android has more and better augmented reality. There are more Android phones out there than iphone 3gs, soon about a dozen new Android phones are coming out from Samsung, Dell, Acer, Huawei, Philips, Motorola, Archos, Asus, Creative and others - Charbax
Mark: that is part of it but think the world, not apps. Go watch some videos on YouTube to see what AR does. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Will do when I get home on my wifi the 3g sucks here on iphne - Mark from iPhone
Thanks for the tweet Robert, the website of the Augmented reality kit is available : http://www.iphonear.org - Charles Ruelle
Robert, remember the ghosts on iPhone ARKit? We have a beta that's almost ready for the appstore. If you have a 3GS, let me know and we can get you a test version if you like! - Kevin Cheng
Johnny Worthington
You know Dora and Boots... If you weren't fiddle-assing around working out how to get there, singing songs, catching stars and asking me for help on even the most basic tasks every 10 seconds, you wouldn't be in such a rush to get to the baseball game... Just sayin'
I want to know why nobody has shot Swiper yet. - ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
Bridge, rock, LIBRARY! - Bryce Roney from iPhone
I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'm the Map, I'M THE MAP! - Mellissa Claus
James Watters
Nokia boycott may be unjustified - First Post - http://news.google.com/news...
Robert Scoble
RT: Yahoo may have given Iranian government names, e-mail addresses of 200K users during crackdown. http://government.zdnet.com/... (via @mike_elgan)
I'm inclined to give Yahoo a pass - at least until the facts came out. The Iranian "investigators" and protestors were completely wrong about Nokia based on a faulty report from the Wall Street Journal (one that has STILL not been corrected). - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Michael McKean
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever - http://www.physorg.com/news174...
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever
"Physicists at Yale University have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current," a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power source." - Michael McKean from Bookmarklet
Woah: "The counterintuitive current is the result of a quantum mechanical effect that influences how electrons travel through metals, and arises from the same kind of motion that allows the electrons inside an atom to orbit the nucleus forever. " - Todd Hoff
Veronica
He still looks THE SAME!
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That's what Time Dilation does to you, all that wrap 9in' the Galaxy is great for your skin - Fee501st
He looks VERY good for his age. - Alex Knight
Suspiciously good... - Amy
The first picture, of course, is from Dune... when was that, 1986? - Veronica
I want to be like this man. - Andru Edwards
Not EXACTLY the same, but he's aged WELL. - Thunderwing from twhirl
Temba, his arms wide/open - Fleagle
Look at this pic, it says he 27 in it, but he doent look all that different http://www.spotlightcd.com/hallfam... - Fee501st
Eh? He's never 27 in that pic! - Amy
ever seen a pic of him as a baby? i think he might look the same. lol (darmok at tanagra) - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I think so! :) - Amy
Veronica, Dune was made in 1984! - Fee501st
He appears in the photos at acting school in Brian Blessed's biography - he looked the same when he was about 17 :) - Jonathan Beckett
He's 44 in that Dune pic? - Amy
Has anybody seen the episode of Extras he was in (with Ricky Gervaise) - it's absolutely brilliant :) - Jonathan Beckett
Yea, he was 44 then and 69 now! - Fee501st
Jonathan: lol yeah :) - Amy
Jonathan: that is great episode! "I Seen it all" - Fee501st
Patrick Stewart is awesome! I enjoyed watching that guy in Star trek new generation - Alexander Herrera
All those trips through the transporter. - Moved to Facebook
Why did they even have to de-age him in X-Men 3 and Wolverine: Origins? - Jason Wong
I only hope I age half as well as he has. - Carlos Urrutia from Android
He needs a new hair cut - Mark from iPhone
make it so, ;) - chaz2b
Special FX. - George Brickner
You know, it helps if you're bald and quite thin at 44. - Jason Nunnelley
I loved his appearance on The Family Guy! Brilliant send up of his character. - Travis Koger
I think that John Slatterty (Roger Sterling in Mad Men) is only 46 is even worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Vincent van Wylick
I heard his secret is a daily application of Japanese semen. - Fnord
Mmmmm :-)) - Anna Haro
He's looked the same for the last 30 yrs or more, lol. - Araceli
EricaJoy
boyfriend said I cannot get him this jedi bath robe because the symbol of the rebellion on it is a glaring continuity error. *sigh* - http://technabob.com/blog...
boyfriend said I cannot get him this jedi bath robe because the symbol of the rebellion on it is a glaring continuity error. *sigh*
Geeeeeeeeeeeek check! ;) - Josh Haley from iPhone
Hehe both of us are indeed huge geeks. - EricaJoy
:) - Josh Haley from iPhone
Hrm.... I actually need a new bath robe... *rubs chin and stares off into the distance* - ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
Your boyfriend sounds pretty cool. LOL - Internet's Tad
the symbol doesn't look like the rebel alliance symbol... is there another symbol of the rebellion that i'm not familiar with? what is the symbol, exactly? - Dan Hsiao
so a google search reveals that it's actually a symbol of the jedi order: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki..., so it's legit? :) - Dan Hsiao
use the force - Robert Higgins
Holy crap. I don't know how to handle this. If I tell him he was wrong about Star Wars, the conversation may end poorly. I will have to think... - EricaJoy
"Unexpected this is. And unfortunate." - Dan Hsiao
It is, however, probably still not canon. - Brian Chang
Kol Tregaskes
Do specific messages (blips?) within a wave have a link? That would be very useful, like permalinks for every FF comment #wave #googlewave
Clint Ecker
Dang this girl is so cute. The song is awesome too: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Dang this girl is so cute. The song is awesome too: http://bit.ly/udfGK
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Beyonce is a young white girl? - David C. Cooper
It's the dirty secret of the R&B industry - Alex Scrivener
I think she looks better as a blonde, amazing eyes - Toby Graham
I'm liking the covers, too. Here http://ff.im/8Z2mU and here: http://ff.im/8Z5y2 - Christopher Harley
Adam Ostrow
pretty sure this Google Wave thing is just an elaborate prank, much like Gmail Paper - http://mail.google.com/mail...
Johnny Worthington
Let's take the drugs and rape out of the equation for a second. Sex with kids is illegal, even if it is consensual. Plain and simple.... Talent (and time) should never excuse douchebaggery.
If this was a businessman and a 13 year old girl or boy in Thailand, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. - Johnny Worthington from IM
Course not, the law should be constant and universal. Status, money, lifetime achievement shouldn't be a free pass to do what you want. Commence with the arse-kicking I say. - Mo Kargas
What did I miss? - Mellissa Claus
Polanski got arrested in Switzerland and may be extradited to the US. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
A crime committed in the 70's... I'd say about time! - Bonnie Foster from iPod
I was blown away by the press conference and the people wearing the "Free Polanski" ribbons. I don't get it. - Dennis O'Neil
Where was that, Dennis? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I'm digging for the link now... - Dennis O'Neil
This isn't the one I saw earlier, but still the same.. http://www.dailymotion.com/video... - Dennis O'Neil
Wow... Just wow... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Castration would be a benefit in these cases. But wait, there's also many laws and such that say sodomy is illegal, even if consensual. Where do we draw the line with legislating sexuality and morality? - Sally: gift wrapper
Sally.... Kids is an easy start. - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
Preach, Johnny, preach! - Helen Sventitsky
I do agree with the kids thing, because children don't have the ability to make informed decisions about the topic. Other than that, I'm opposed to rules that regulate us based on "morality" or "decency" - Sally: gift wrapper
I'm okay with laws that regulate moral and decent behavior in public. I also think that what consenting adults do in private should remain private. That includes people who feel the need to display their perversions in public, including public sexual displays like parades that are marketed as "pride" events. - David C. Cooper
"regulate moral and decent behavior in public"!? Who decides? - LogEx
We the people decide, this is America. - David C. Cooper
Of course fans are angered. They lack any objective view of the person they idolize. They can complain all they want, he's still going to be thrown in jail where he belongs. - Jason Huebel
This was more than just molesting a 13 year old girl. And the only tragedy of justice is that he was allowed to plead down to that charge in the first place before fleeing. He manipulatively and brutally raped this girl. He was originally charged with 6 counts including the rape charge that if convicted would have sent him to prison for life. He deserves to be extradited, charged with all 6 counts and any new ones stemming from his flight and spend the rest of his life in prison. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, on your advice I read the transcripts and was also amazed (and disgusted) that he could have gotten any of the charges reduced or thrown out. However, I don't agree that he should be brought back and tried for the original 6 charges. Charged and tried for fleeing etc yes, definitely. I think retrying people for past crimes based on modern law is a slippery slope and I'm not sure it's a precendent that should be set no matter what the crime. - Kenton
Not to mention double jeopardy. You can't be charged/convicted for the same crime twice. The original sentence should be imposed, open to appeal by prosecution for an extension, and he should be charged as appropriate for his flight, but re-charging him for something he's already been convicted of is illegal and unconstitutional. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Other problem: using words like "kids" - how to define? Puberty?? I mean, "age of consent" laws have always struck me as silly and quite arbitrary.. - Anthony Citrano
Anthony, I think the word is probably "minor" and it varies, but here in Australia a minor is any child under the age of 16. This does not mean that the person is an adult, however, so technically they are still a child until age 18. - Mellissa Claus
Also, are you trying to argue that a 13 year old girl is NOT a child? - Mellissa Claus
Even then, why does any man feel the need to chase after a female in that very young age range? Because it's too difficult to pursue one in the 'safe' age range? It's a pointless argument. There's nothing 'consenting' about that. You can't tell me Polanski wasn't smart enough, nor attractive enough to find someone in his range, rather than a child or young adolescent. - Mo Kargas
@Melly: yes, but (mostly) on another thread. ;) - Anthony Citrano
Susan Reynolds
RT @Captain_Marlow: Believing one's own propaganda can only lead to huge mistakes: Bush was well liked. http://captainmarlow.posterous.com/believi... BULLSEYE!
Steven Hodson
weird Friendfeed comment/note on a posted Google Reader item - this only happens on Mark's feed AFAIK but happens a lot
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I've seen this all over the place - my posts and others - Jesse Stay
I noticed this has been happening to me a lot. Conversely, some of my Google Reader shared items were posted on FF without comments/notes at all. In both cases I've had to make manual changes. I think once I got a double post on FF... - Dennis Jernberg
same for OurDoings import. Can be a SUP related timing bug of FF side, just a guess w/o concrete evidence though. - NaHi from f2p
Leo Laporte
OK. I've got my wave sandbox account. Now what do I do?
lol, my sentiments exactly :) - Zee.
it's not that great - Paul Capestany
Can i be your new best friend. :) - Don B.
It has a lot of potential. I think it will be a lot more valuable when there are people using it that we know and it is more than random threads we may or may not be interested in. - Brian Sloane
I am still waiting on an invite. It could make terrific groupware. Wave has the potential to be disruptive in the collaboration space. But.. without a userbase and a use... it is nothing but a fancy demo. - Dave Senior
I want one, too :( - Lise
waiting for my invite :/ - lalo
invite plz. kthnx. - Chris Blau
I can't wait to try it out! It'll only be interesting once everyone has access to it though - until then, it would be kinda like using Twitter without anyone tweeting. - Brandon Shea
I guess Brandon and Dave are right, there can't be anything interesting about it until more people are using it. - Robin Ramael
I'm waiting for my invite! Hope it will also come soon! - Andre
I hope I won the Google Wave lottery in a week! 100,000 chances - joebrooks
I found Jason Kolb's primer to be particularly helpful. My thoughts (http://siliconangle.net/ver2...) Jason's writeup (http://www.jasonkolb.com/weblog...) - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I would love to see Facebook (or another NEW social network) integrate with Wave. I think it could really change how people interact on the net. But for that to happen, someone's really going to have to bet big and I don't see that happening yet. - patrick
As mentioned by others - definitely needs a critical mass of users to be interacting to test it's usefulness. SO Leo - how about one of those precious invites Please :) - Matt Dell
You've got your Wave- so Wave at everybody. - Brian O'Connell
I want to add you as a contact, what's you wave adress? - Denis Dervisevic
Google Wave will only be massive if we all begin to make use of it, including us 'ordinary users' then it'll take off... - Sandra Large
Yes Leo, invite us all to particapate then we can all judge its usefullness - Sandra Large
What's your Wave ID? We can Wave together! - Eric Geller
All I have is a sandbox but you are more than welcome to come play in it. - Richard Bitting
Will be interesting to hear your opinion on it and whether you feel the lack of any purpose like a lot of people after their first play. I'm not hugely convinvced it will get much better once a lot more people are on it either. - Lee Stone
You invite me, that's what you do. - David Sheneman
Hop in the sandbox, Leo! - Garmon Estes
i've had one for a couple months. don't know what to do with it - andy brudtkuhl
I filled out my "sandbox approval application" where I (supposedly) just pick my username and should have my account ready to go in moments but never received any information from Google. I even e-mail whoever I could find with regards to Wave support and never heard back from them. It was very disappointing. - Brandon Blattner
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