Un-official NFL Thread: Week 14: discuss, comment, post non-sequiturs and even off-topic takes on the games you're watching on FriendFeed here. (an experiment): _________
Frank Gore has touchdown runs of 79 and 80 yards... he's broken his career best twice today, and fantasy football owners who have him are loving it today!
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This just in: Mark Sanchez and the Jets are for real ...maybe
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Steve Slaton owners are starting to get nervous. His team scores 34, but he can't sniff the endzone.
- Carter Rabasa
@Carter ...good point: Slaton was very productive in the red zone last year. I think the Texans still are figuring out what kind of offense they have...
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Terrell Owens gets his first TD catch as a Buffalo Bill...
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Interesting stat (unverified): Since 1990, 65% of teams that started 2-0 made the playoffs... 49ers are on the verge of going 2-0, and more importantly, with two wins in their own division
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...damn, one of those strange plays for me: Witten scores (good for my fantasy team) but his TD ties the Giants (bad for my favorite NFL team)...
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He should have taken the ball back and given it to the defensive player. Good playing all around
- Matt Hilton
@Matt ...yeah, I know, the Giants' DB really scored the TD a few plays before...
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20-17 at halftime. typical Jints/Cowboys game.
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I'm changing channels until I'm sure I won't have to hear anyone else use the word "dominated".
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
Two things: 1) this is a strange game: Giants keep getting opportunities and blowing them, while the Cowboys look out of synch; and 2) Budweiser is making a wheat beer now? Please.
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105,000+ in attendance at Cowboys Stadium tonight. I think the cheapest tickets start at $79...and there's not a lot of cheap seats here...
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I'm no Cowboys fan, but this isn't looking good for the Gints. Not playing well at all.
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
ha3rvey ...i am a Giants fan, and I agree with you...their defensive line is getting sliced open right now
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Yeah, I'm thinking the Cowboys are gonna win this one. I'm glad my kids are in bed. This way I won't have to hear any grief.
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
It's been a great Monday Night Football game. The Colts have been dominated and outplayed, and the Dolphins have kept the ball nearly 80% of the time. But when Peyton Manning has had the ball, he's led his team on four scoring drives.
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...but the ball is in Miami's hands to win. 1:33 to go. 1rst and 10 from their 46 yard line.
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...56 seconds to go...and no timeout for the Dolphins
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...Miami's Ted Ginn dropped the would-be winning TD catch in the end zone...
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...six seconds left. ball on 30yard line...Miami...
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INTERCEPTED by Colts! they win! In a game where they possessed the ball less than 15 minutes.
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Week 3 ////////////////////////////////////////////
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Watching the Niners vs. Vikings in the Metrodome. Two great running backs. Two great defenses. I expect big plays in the aerial game as a result. .LOLz
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...ouch! Jared Allen breaks into Niners backfield, causes fumble, 7-yard loss for SF
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Watching Tenn v NYJ in their horrendous throwback/throw-up uniforms. Although... I like the officiating crew colours.
- Mark H
@DrJohnny... nice! Let us know when Michael Vick steps onto the field...
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watching peterson vs gore right now, but I'll probably be switching between this game and whatever's on CBS
- chrisofspades
@MarkH ...eww, you mean those blue/yellow unis for the Jets? yuck!
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Yeah, they're pretty gruesome. And weird to see Tenn playing in the old Oilers kits.
- Mark H
...uh-oh. I'm out of beer. one of the beauties of the DVR is the pause button. I gotta run to the market. This thread will be here all day. Please add when something in the NFL moves you! L8r!
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wow Mark Sanchez is a baller. what a TD run.
- chrisofspades
Vikings were going into halftime with a FG try to make it 16-7... Niners BLOCKED the kick, Nate Clemens recovers a clean bounce and takes it back 60 yards to the house. Niners 14, Vikings 13... at the half!!!
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...ooh, ooh...I wanna see Vick at WR. Halftime hilites! Maybe I should pay for that NFL Redzone channel. .LOLz!
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Vikes will power ahead away in the second half. My wife insists.
- Mark H
Not been too impressed with the Titans/Oilers in my game but the Jets offense seems to have stalled, partly through the fact that Sanchez can't seem to get a good grip on the ball in the rain.
- Mark H
...I don't know about the Vikings powering ahead. That 49er defense is starting to take on the tough, smashmouth characteristics of their head coach Mike Singletary. They never quit.
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...looks like Vick ran a couple of wildcat options too...
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...looks like Mark Sanchez is growing a porno moustache. .LOLz!
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Kerry Collins and Tennessee suddenly looking quite good. I have the power to transform team fortunes through dismissive talk of them. It's a gift.
- Mark H
@MarKH... LOLz! That's like broadcasters who'll say "This kicker hasn't missed a kick in two years..." or "This QB hasn't been intercepted in 20 straight games..." Then on the next play: missed kick or INT! hahaha
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...this Vikings/Niners game has been really competitive. Niners play ugly, but they are tough
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Niners just picked off in endzone...but play was whistled dead because of delay-of-game penalty. Lucky!
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And just like that... I've decided that the phrase "and just like that" is really, really overused by commentators.
- Mark H
Brett Favre just completed a big pass on third down, but he was 3 yards over the LOS. Niners challenging...
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do the refs see the unofficial lines in the replay, like we do?
- chrisofspades
Chris.... no, the refs don't see those lines, but they have linesmen who's job is to stand on the LOS and watch for that...
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Favre is going to get the ball back with no timeouts and about 60 seconds to go... down four points. Here we go... this is what he's getting $12 million for....
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Favre is driving them... just completed a 50-yard bomb to Sidney Rice...out of bounds!
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TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS....39-yard Favre laser...it will be reviewed though!!!!
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what a catch! I thought he was out but in replay he was in
- chrisofspades
49ers and our great prevent offense. 3 plays up the gut and 0 time off the clock. At least try for a first down. OMG.
- Todd Hoff
Todd ...yeah, the Niners could have done more to chew up the clock at the end there, but still, their defense let Favre drive about 70 yards with a minute left and NO timeouts. it's a team loss for SFO
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Watching Dolphins/Chargers too. Both teams looking pretty shoddy in the red zone.
- Mark H
Mark...agree, this has been kind of a snooze so far... especially after that Niners/Vikings finish. Oh well...
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Miami is in danger of going 0-3... Chargers are putting together one of those killer late 4th quarter drives, late in the game, to close it out...
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...yup! Chargers have this game in the bag now.
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.LAG they really should have never been put in that position. Favre is a proven 9er killer. Call a rollout and make a safe pass if open. Something other than a use no time run up the gut. That's just bad bad strategy. Especially for a rookie running back averaging a couple of yards a carry.
- Todd Hoff
Todd... great points. Niners are still learning to win, but they do have a lot of fight in them.
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...looking forward to lots of offense in the Sunday Night Game between Colts and Cards!
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...that's weird: Arizona blocked Indy's PAT, but the ball squirted through, hit the camera on top of the goalpost, and bounced back. the camera is above and behind the goalpost, so the kick looked bad, but was actually good. huh?
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...can't tell if the Colts are this good, or the Cardinals are this bad, but this game is becoming clinical
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They do have a lot of heart and that's a reason for hope. Though no matter how much I fight I can't do better than second in my pool now :-)
- Todd Hoff
Cowboys start fast...and then go limp and blow their scoring opportunity... #mnf
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...everytime the Cowboys' Felix Jones touches the ball, it looks like he's about to break a big play. it's a mixed sports metaphor, but it fits him: "home run hitter" ...he's a bomb ready to explode.
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...Bengals are in the red zone, under a minute to go in OT vs. Brown. all tied, 20-20, but not for long. 1rst and 10, Cleveland 13-yard line, 7 seconds left, or it ends in a tie.
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Can the Bucs run the table? I lived in Tampa in'76, and the '09 squad can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...
- Bill Sodeman
Bill ... the 2009 Bucs are pretty bad...the only team on their schedule they may be less than a double-digit underdog is Seattle
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wow! what a great catch-and-run -- and poor tackling -- for a 50 yard TD by big baby Brandon Marshall! the Cowboys are in trouble in Denver.
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Susan Komen Breast Cancer Fund + NFL = lots of pretty pink highlights on unis all over the league today.
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Cowboys not dead yet... 4th-and-3... Romo manufactures a 53-yard desperation heave. 59 seconds left. ball on the Denver 20.
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Is there a mercy rule in the NFL? because if there is, the Raiders need to invoke it against the Giants. It's like the Jints are playing Madden Football against someone who's never played before
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28 - 0 w/ 7min 2 go in the half'll do that 2 ya
- LANjackal
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The Giants have taken Eli Manning out of the game...he doesn't look injured though.
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Who would win if USC played the Raiders?
- Louis Gray
Louis: the Raiders would win, easily. they're a bad PRO team, yes, against the best competition on the planet. but every NFL team is basically an all-star college team of the highest caliber. it wouldn't even be close. Raiders 72, USC 3.
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^ True. As much as we like college football, let's not get ahead of ourselves
- LANjackal
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wow! David Carr -- remember him, he was the NFL's #1 draft pick about 8 years ago -- scores a TD for the Giants... the slaughter of the Raiders continues...
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JaMarcus Russell...well, I'm not an NFL quarterback, but this guy is, well, horrible. he needs to go back to college and learn how to play football.
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Russell has 5 completions... and 3 lost fumbles. Can he get 2 more fumbles?
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Ummm .. have you forgotten how dysfunctional the Raiders are as an organization? JaMarcus was the best QB of his draft, and he's still a phenomenal athlete. He'll just never do well in the Raiders circus
- LANjackal
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LANjackal... no doubt, in a different system, Russell would get better coaching, which would allow him to grow. Still, he seems to just be raw physical potential but with no actual talent for the position. he's not an accurate thrower, he has no pocket presence, he stares down receivers, and for huge, 6-foot-8, 270lb guy, he goes down far too easily... even tiny Jeff Garcia was harder to tackle.
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Cincinnati 10, Baltimore 7...hmm, the Bengals D is balling.
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Chiefs 13, Cowboys 3... it will really s*ck being Tony Romo if the Cowboys lose to a 0-4 team.
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I'll have to put up a thread about that later if the Cowboys lose. I'm alarmed
- LANjackal
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Tashard Choice TD... Chiefs 13, Cowboys 10 now
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To JaMarcus Russell's credit: he gets very little help from his team. his line is porous and doesn't protect him, his running game is weak (related to the line play too), his WRs drop passes... it's all symptomatic of malaise throughout. the Raiders are becoming a case study in an organization that needs a complete top-to-bottom reboot.
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...and to think I dumped Jeremy Maclin from my fantasy team earlier this week. His line today, as Donovan McNabb returns to the Eagles: 6 catches, 142 yards, 2 touchdowns! ouch!
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Too lazy for fantasy football on this end
- LANjackal
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Fantasy football is an ingrained habit for me now: I'm a NY Giants fan living in SFO. if I didn't have FFL, I couldn't watch these Raider and Niner games... although, the Niners are getting entertaining these days.
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non-NFL: I love the AT&T commercial where the little girl gets reunited with her lost dog. I just now realized that the guy who brings the dog home is UNC All American basketball dude, Tyler Hansborough
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Wow! just switched to Ravens/Bengals game... Ray Lewis hit Ochocinco with a helmet-to-helmet hit so violent that it knocked C.O. helmet off and bounced it 15-yards into the sidelines...
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This Ravens/Bengals game is HOT! 27 seconds to go... BEngals in the red zone.
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Cleveland is inside the 10... close to winning their first...
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Bengals INT... they will beat the Ravens... Cincinnati is one wacky Week 1 tip TD from being undefeated this season. maybe the HBO "Hard Knocks" curse is dead.
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switch to Bills/Browns... 7 seconds left... Browns 6, Bills 3... Bills have ball at midfield
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Yeah, the Raiders are a horrible professional team
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Broncos throwback kits look awful
- LANjackal
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This is totally non-NFL, but it's my thread, and I'm a Yankees fan: the Red Sox have been eliminated from the MLB playoffs! Angels win 7-6 in Fenway. Chowdaheads: suck it!!!!!
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AMEN AMEN AMEN brother. I hate Boston
- LANjackal
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Ummm y did the Broncos run it out of the end zone? That was silly
- LANjackal
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The Falcons -- the team from that city that hosts 'Real Housewives of Atlanta' -- is currently pummeling the Niners 14-0 in the first!
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The Cowboys beat KC 26-20 in OT... new fantasy football sensation (this week) Miles Austin scores on a 60-yard pass-and-catch... to go along with a 59 yard TD reception, and 250 yards on the day
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Glen Coffee, who is a stud-in-waiting, scores for the Niners... Falcons 14, Niners 7
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The Niners' defense is starting to heat up...!
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Oh man, yes, the Broncos throwback unis are terribly ugly. but, just like the SeaHawks neutron-lime-green throwbacks from a few weeks back, these unis are being marketed to a segment outside of the young, hip demographic. cool kids won't buy these, but they also don't buy most of the NFL's tickets.
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wow...this Niners defense is really getting fun to watch... they're starting to play like their coach Mike Singletary...like a pack of mad dogs
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big plays kill you... Falcons have a HUGE, 90-yard TD pass. still hammering the Niners! and then the Niners fumble the ensuing kickoff...
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Broncos get on the board finally
- LANjackal
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Broncos still in their game... Niners on verge of getting blown out of their own house
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TB 0-5. Ha. Ha. Ha. YOU ARE NOT REAL. Never liked the Bucs
- LANjackal
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Seattle is housing the Jaguars, 20-0. Whenever Matt Hasselbeck plays, the Seahawks become a real pro football team, apparently.
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The Falcons are about to blow this game WIDE OPEN! Michael Turner scores his third TD, fantasy honks, score is 35-10, and it's not even halftime yet!
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Barry... the helmet dreads are just the dreads...meaning: it's the look more and more young guys are rocking today, football or not.
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Todd... i wouldn't say 'same old niners.' this is much more that the Falcons are actually a lot better than people think. in particular, i'm impressed at Atlanta's team speed...they're beating the NIners to every spot on the field
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...this Atlanta team, it's a real solid unit.
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Holy shit what is happening to Jax? Seattle's doin dem boys worse than the Raiders this morning. OUCH.
- LANjackal
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...if you think about it, the Jacksonville to Seattle Trip is probably the longest road trip you can make in the NFL. lots of East Coast teams fare poorly when they go up to Seattle. Jacksonville never plays there. I blame part of their *ss-whipping on jet lag.
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what good can you take from a 45-10 drubbing? well... you did score 10 points. ;) don't worry Niner Fan, no one was penciling you in for a Super Bowl appearance this season. grow and learn.
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...the Sears/Brett Favre "Flip-flop" commercial gets my vote for ad of the year....hmm, I don't know...
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denver 5-0 what a start for orton and mcdaniels, love to see my favorite team winning epic games..
- Yunus Tunak
Broncos pull it out! nice! In the ugly unis too!
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I really liked the Broncos unis. Nice font. Good background color. Wish they wouldn't use flash though. :-)
- Todd Hoff
...actually, the more i see of the Broncos throwback unis, the more I like 'em... it's the socks!
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Ronnie Brown throws out of the wildcat, and completes a pass... fantasy football stats will never be the same. Dolphins are sticking it to the Jets at the start...
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The referees are speaking in Spanish! whoah!
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Wonderful game! Being a Giants fan, I don't mind the outcome, but Braylon Edwards was directly responsible for my fantasy team going down by 1 measly point. oh well. it's just a game.
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I think we just saw the next generation of great pro QBs in action tonight
- LANjackal
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LJ... absolutely: if Sanchez and Henne stay healthy, they could make their teams pretty good for the next ten years...
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Love how Miami ran their offense. It's nice to see a little innovation. And love how the Jets fake a few punts. It's nice to see to some sack. There's too much playing it safe by most teams.
- Todd Hoff
...the Miami offense on the final drive was incredible. they had the Jets completely confused.
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These are my Week 6 impressions so far: 1) Vikings have two lucky wins; 2) Can't believe the Saints could run up that many points on my Giants; 3) the Redskins may be worse than the Raiders, because they spend even more money and get even less in return; 4) the Rams will probably be moving back to LA....
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Yeah I'm shocked at the way the Giants game turned out too. Actually I think the better term is "appalled" :(
- LANjackal
WHooooooooooooah! did I just enter the Twilight Zone? Is that final correct? Raiders 13, Eagles 9... huh? what? wtf?
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R u smoking or do I really need to check ESPN?
- LANjackal
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...I really don't know what to make of the NFL after the games this week. some of these outcomes are shocking.
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Boy, the Titans really really really sucked. I bet the Rams could have shut them out the way they were playing.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
59-0. The Titans must be ready to burn those Oilers throwback uniforms by now.
- Bill Sodeman
It's hard to believe that a professional football team, especially one that was a playoff team, with a 13-3 record, a season ago, could be demolished like this. I can only think that the Titans quit.
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I think the Rams, Titans and the Bucs have all quit - in week 6. Stunning.
- Bill Sodeman
Broncos or Chargers tonight? I'm going with the Chargers; because I hate the Broncos
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
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Shey... I'm taking the Chargers at home tonight, and I think it's going to be a high-scoring game.
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I, for one, love the Bronco's throwback unis! Those vertical socks... .LOLz!
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Still, the Chargers, and the Cowboys have the best throwback unis ever
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Philip Rivers just "shot-putted" that pass to Gates
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Do the Chargers special teams realize that this is a game and not a half-speed scrimmage? A 93-yard KO, return and a 73-yard punt return, in less than a half? huh? what?
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...true that. everyone in the NFL is fast (as far as humans go) so when you see someone running away from NFL players, you know they are FLYING!!!!
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I need a bomb TD pass to Vincent Jackson to have a chance in my third fantasy league... come on Philip Rivers, look his way!
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No no, Rivers is my opponent's last player. I need him to stay quiet
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
What a catch by Scheffler...sorry Shey, but Rivers is gonna have to throw to move his team...
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....and with that missed FG, that's it. Denver wins, my second fantasy team loses, and the Broncos are 6-0! wow!!!!
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Your second fantasy team loses Lag? Boo hoo! How about your first? Drew Brees FTW
- Andrew Smith
There are four undefeated teams right now, is one of these teams the next Super Bowl Champion: Broncos, Colts, Saints, Vikings... rhetorical question
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Andrew, my first fantasy team (in a real money league) wins this week, thanks to Eddie Royals two big kick return TDs tonight! YEAH!!!!
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I lost to Eddie Royal in my keeper league tonight. Was even going in with LT vs. Royal :( I had a bad week in all leagues.
- Andrew Smith
Andrew... I'm in three, one for money, two for show. I'm 2-1 this weekend. Had Vincent Jackson caught one more TD tonight, I'd have gone 3-0. Oh well, it's not like ***I'm*** out there.
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Scratch the Vikes from that list. They'll be exposed next week against the Steelers
- LANjackal
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LJ...duly noted. When that game is over, let's break it down on this thread!
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After a bye week, the Niners are picking up right where they left off: getting housed! This time, it's the Texans, who lead 14-0
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Make that 21-0 Houston. What happened to the Niner defense, gave up 45 to Atlanta, and now 21 to the Texans, and it's not even halftime...
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If you think that's painful, try being from Houston since the whole Texans deal got started :-X
- LANjackal
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Oh yeah and Vikes are getting exposed today. All that "we goin 2 the Playoffs" ish needs to stop. Come onnnn Tomlin you can do it
- LANjackal
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Alex Smith sighting, Alex Smith sighting... he's actually on the field, and he completed an 8-yard pass, on a 3rd-and-15 play... oh boy.
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...wow, Alex Smith took the 49ers on an incredible TD drive, completing 7-of-8 passes, with scoring pass to Vernon Davis. he looked like an NFL QB. Houston still leads, 21-14
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Another TD pass for Alex Smith... I really can't believe how good he's looking against a pretty stout defense.... we have a game, Niners D needs a stop. Houston up, 24-21, under 4 minutes
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What a TD return by Harvin - glad the ref is ok. This is a hard fought game
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
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Not so fast Steelers fans... the Vikings respond, right away! saw that Shey!!!
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The Texans blow another lead ... story of the goddamn franchise :(
- LANjackal
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It's the Texans' game to win... just keep the ball away from SFO for 2 minutes...
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I'm a Houstonian but TBH I don't have much faith in the Texans at all
- LANjackal
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They have some good building blocks - look for them to contend next year
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
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Niners are driving for at least a tying FG...
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Alex Smith's line, so far: 15-for-20, 205 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs... nice!
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So I guess the whole "Dress up as a stewardess to motivate your team" idea didn't work out so well for Brad Childress
- Steve
Ricky Williams is having a big half against the Saints... i guess that wildcat offense isn't a gimmick when you have the right personnel...
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The Giants-Cards game is pretty good so far. Entertainment galore
- LANjackal
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I'm just flipping to the Jints game to get the score, then back to the Yankees game... damn split-screen on flat panel ain't working. .LOLz!
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wait... how did the Cardinals take the lead?
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Bradshaw loses the football. Fantastic. Staring defeat in the face
- LANjackal
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If Eli Manning were ever to put on a show, now would be the time ...
- LANjackal
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...trying to close out the Yankees game... can't believe the Jints are going to lose two games in a row, and lose a home game — to the Cardinals!!!!
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Giants have now lost 2 in a row :(
- LANjackal
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...alright, Reggie Bush's flying td, and Drew Brees' slam dunk were both awesome
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i went to get a pillow in the other room, right after the kickoff... gone for 10 seconds, came back, Eagles had already scored on the Skins... sheesh!
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OTOH, the Redskins defense is not playing badly... but the O has given up the ball three times in less than a half!
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Redskins vs Raiders: who'd win, and which QB would be first to five completions.
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Redskins are a joke this season
- LANjackal
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MOST HILARIOUS MISSED TACKLE EVAR!!!
- LANjackal
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Shit that was like a missed block in a bball game. The Eagles dude went straight through him
- LANjackal
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it's stunning how bad the bad teams are in the NFL this year... and in every case, it starts with horrible ownership and management, and that shii rolls all the way downhill to the field...
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Bay Area peeps have to be happy today. 49ers are hanging with the Colts
- LANjackal
the Vikings/Packers game is shaping up to be another photo finish... whoever has the ball last will win...
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Looks like another see saw battle at the moment. Touchdown Packers.
- Eric Logan
great catch by Jennings, even with a guy holding him...
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adrian peterson runs like a charging bull, downhill, and shot out of a cannon... watch out tacklers!
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I just found out today that his father Nelson played basketball here at Key West High School when I was a sophomore. I remember watching him. He played with a two sport athlete named Speedy Neal who later played professionally for the Buffalo Bills as a Full Back. http://keysnews.com/node/18181
- Eric Logan
wow... that's quite a story. a little bit of Forrest Gump in there, with the shrimping boats and football stuff...
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...and just like that the Vikings can nail the coffin shut if they can score a TD here...
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i think that td pass wins it for the Vikings... plenty of time left, but what a mountain to climb for the Packers
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Great game by my Ravens today. 30-7 beat down of the undefeated Broncos. The defense finally showed up today
- Alan Simpson
I'm gonna have 2 say the Vikes are the real deal at this point
- LANjackal
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Yeah, the Vikes are a solid team...and Aaron Rodgers is a good QB, but his O-line is hellbent on getting him killed!
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Can't wait to see the Falcons get ate up tomorrow on live TV. That's gonna be fun. Got fam in ATL but never been able to support the city's teams for some reason
- LANjackal
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yeah, the MNF game should be very entertaining... TV games in New Orleans always seem to be
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Flipping to the MNF game from the World Series... boy, the Saints are fun to watch. Pierre Thomas, my fantasy rb #2 just took it to the house from 20 yards out!
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Fearless prediction: Phillies -Falcons tonight both leading right now will finish that way.
- Eric Logan
wow, the Falcons came to N'Awlins to play... up 14-7 on the Saints, and beating up Drew Brees, the utlimate fantasy scoring macheen
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Eric ...I'll take the opposite outcome, on both games. .LOlz!
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Well I kind of figured you would. lol
- Eric Logan
...well, maybe not the Yankees. But the Saints, in New Orleans, on Monday Night? It will be like a videogame....
- .LAG liked that
Yankees might be in trouble tonight. Still plenty of time for the Bronx Bombers though. I am firmly amongst the 59 percent in this particular survey. http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
- Eric Logan
hahaha! but what did the Yankees do to you, to put you in that hardcore 59% demographic?
- .LAG liked that
TD... Brees to Colston, and like that 14-all...
- .LAG liked that
They beat us like drums for 80 years.
- Eric Logan
...until he stops playing in the nfl, and then she dumps him.... .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
...i flipped back to Yankee game, score was 21-14, there was commercial, flipped back to MNF, and suddenly Saints are ahead 28-14. wow!
- .LAG liked that
Wow. I haven't seen a team make offense look this easy since the 2005-2006 Pats
- LANjackal
from IM
Whoops wrong year ... I meant 2007 - 2008. The team that lost to the NYG in the SuperBowl
- LANjackal
from IM
hahaha! actually, i think the Saints are currently scoring at a faster clip than that Pats team..,
- .LAG liked that
i want to get my hands on these Saints' mouthpieces that align the spine and allow them to be more flexible. gruden and tirico are raving about them...
- .LAG liked that
Picking on the Raiders is becoming almost, well, mean nowadays! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Denver came out looking very crisp, driving down the field with easy, but the drive stalls... Broncos settle for 3 points... meh!
- .LAG liked that
Steelers D scores again... last three touchdowns Pittsburgh has scored, going back to Minnesota game, has come from the defensive side...
- .LAG liked that
Steelers offense is finally starting to click...
- .LAG liked that
Even though the game is in Denver, it sounds like a Pittsburgh home game. as they say, the Steelers' fans "travel really well," better than any team in the NFL
- .LAG liked that
I need 9 more pts from this game to win the match up in my main league tonight.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Mathew™... I need the Broncos to explode for two or more touchdowns, preferably at least one to Jabar Gaffney, to have a chance in my game in your league...
- .LAG liked that
Um, you don't have Gaffney in my league. The guy I'm going against does. You just have Mendenhall.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
...oops, wrong league. i could use a big 50-yard TD run from Mendenhall, then, along with some scoring offense from the Broncos! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Now we are going from this game to Cleveland next week. I know what I won't be watching.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Denver has work to do.... Steelers, well, they're defending champs for a reason!
- .LAG liked that
Who's ready for some today? I am. I bet I'm the only person who's up yet, lol
- LANjackal
I'm up... and thankfully, because the Niners played on Thursday, I get a decent early game: Bengals vs. Steelers... and the Bengals are going toe-to-toe with the champs
- .LAG liked that
You should see the Rams giving the Saints a run for it on Fox
- LANjackal
from IM
The Lambs, er, Rams, have been competitive in almost every game they've played... plus they have a monster RB in Steven Jackson... still, I think Saints will pull it out
- .LAG liked that
Chargers look good early against the Eagles
- .LAG liked that
Aaron Rodgers looks like he's regressing as an NFL quarterback...
- .LAG liked that
Their play has gotten increasingly conservative. Unsurprisingly he's losing his rhythm and confidence
- LANjackal
from IM
LANjackal the Giants are on a freefall WTH happened?
- Michelle
No fucking clue, but remember that they were 6-6 during the regular season the last time they won it all
- LANjackal
from IM
The Giants haven't been the same since Plaxico went away. Also, Eli Manning's foot injury is being underreported, he's not the same player if he can't plant his feet and throw with confidence.. no QB is
- .LAG liked that
LANjackal true on that record but these time imo doesn't have the bounceback, doesn't have the personnel to limp into the playoffs and then win it all. LAG that's a Manning, they don't like to talk about injuries...
- Michelle
One more thing are the Steelers trying to make me drop them as my AFC SuperBowl rep?
- Michelle
LOL that'd make a nice headline "Steelers Dropped from Soulpowr Label" HAHAHAHA
- LANjackal
from IM
...no, the Steelers will be in the mix, but the Bengals are getting back to the team they were before Carson Palmer went down with a knee injury in the playoffs...on a dirty play by the Steelers
- .LAG liked that
...Roy Williams drops more balls than TO ever did. He's an NFL receiver, his job is to catch footballs
- .LAG liked that
I just don't recall Williams dropping balls like that when he was in Detroit.
- Michelle
...true he was a good receiver when the Cowboys traded for him
- .LAG liked that
Tony Romo was just picked-off at the 1-yard line as the Cowboys were about to score. The Packers are shutting out Dallas 17-0, about five minutes left
- .LAG liked that
...dang it, Cowboys score...a shutout would have been nice.
- .LAG liked that
wow, BAD shovel pass by Hasselbeck
- LANjackal
from IM
did he actually mean to do that? that was terrible
- LANjackal
from IM
he panicked... but the Card's safety made a great play as well...
- .LAG liked that
ha... that's clever marketing by Microsoft: the "7 Word Recap," sponsored by Windows 7: seahawks up early cardinals dominate second half
- .LAG liked that
Patriots vs. Colts ...both teams start with 3-and-outs
- .LAG liked that
...the field turf in Indianapolis is actually burning, after they launched some indoor fireworks to celebrate the Colt's first TD. Indoor fireworks...dumb idea
- .LAG liked that
Wow, haven't people learned that lesson since the rock band club fire a few years back? Sheesh
- LANjackal
from IM
...Tom Brady throws a TD pass to Julian Edelman.... Julian who???? Patriots are turning NBC's much-hyped "Game of the Year" into "Blowout of the Year"
- .LAG liked that
Not pleased right about now but I kinda expected it to look like this. The homies are in trouble.
- Michelle
From the U. Thank you Mr Wayne. Geez!!!!!!!!
- Michelle
Tom Brady got greedy... and the Colts D made him pay with an INT
- .LAG liked that
Quit with that U stuff, plz thx :P
- LANjackal
from IM
...if Manning is not going to throw to Dallas Clark, then my fantasy game this week is already lost...
- .LAG liked that
Peyton Manning just threw the best deep strike to the Patriots ever
- LANjackal
from IM
...Peyton Manning threw two ducks in a row, never seen that before...
- .LAG liked that
Ha, he had the worst game of his career a couple years back, IIRC. Don't remember the exact stats but this match doesn't nearly as bad to me
- LANjackal
from IM
...i bet he's hurt his hand, because the ball is coming out funny
- .LAG liked that
...Pats fumble on the goalline. this has been a really strange game.
- .LAG liked that
Colts are still in it but offense looks anemic
- LANjackal
from IM
...yup, but I think that has something to do with the Pats defensive scheme too. Pats look like the better team in all three phases tonight...
- .LAG liked that
mmm 2 nice completions. Why wasn't this happening before? :(
- LANjackal
from IM
H-U-S-T-L-E. Colts just woke up. Hope the complete this drive
- LANjackal
from IM
Unbelievable. That's one of the most amazing finishes I've seen in years.
- .LAG liked that
Bad call by the Pats to not punt on 4th down
- LANjackal
from IM
Almost reminds me of Pete Carroll's decision to go for it against Texas in the Rose Bowl. USC's been going downhill since that game. Horrible WTF losses, etc. Completely OT but this game reminded me of that
- LANjackal
from IM
Rodney Harrison, erstwhile Patriot hero, called out Belichek on the 4th down play: "it was a really bad decision." — no sh*t sherlock!
- .LAG liked that
Much as I don't like Belichick, he plays to the win the game. That 4th down call really is par for the course for him.
- Michelle
I just checked the stats, the Pats are 50% on 4th down conversions this season. That's actually decent. The call in itself wasn't bad, the timing just was. Given a minute the Pats could have driven back down the field. This game is the epitome of the principle that the object of the game is to simply have more points on the board at 0.0 in the 4th. Period.
- LANjackal
from IM
I'll always go with having my fate in the hands of my best players. Good call.
- Todd Hoff
the Monday morning quarterbacks on sportstalk radio and TV are murdering Belicheat today... wow! what have you done for me lately?
- .LAG liked that
*shrug* they always need meat for the grinder. every idiot knows the best defense against peyton is to keep the ball out of his hands, if you have the opportunity to do that, it's certainly worth considering. belicheat has three rings, how many do the people criticizing him have?
- Richard Lawler
What happened to "flex scheduling" for televised games? What are the Cleveland Browns doing on Monday Night Football?
- .LAG liked that
Remember the days when this would actually be an interesting matchup? I'm thinking of skipping this one and disco napping instead TBH
- LANjackal
from IM
This is gonna be like Bills-Browns Part 2
- LANjackal
from IM
The Ravens starting right tackle, Michael Oher, Number 74, has a Hollywood film about his life premiering on Friday called "The Blindside"...but somehow, it's become a "Sandra Bullock picture"...ha!
- .LAG liked that
LAN... i hope the game isn't that inept. The Ravens have a pretty good team, it's the Browns I'm worried about. But they're all professionals, maybe it will be decent.
- .LAG liked that
.LAG and those infamous words "oscar buzz" are surrounding it. I'd like to know if there's a book.
- Michelle
Michelle ...yes, there's a book, written by the same guy who wrote "Moneyball" about baseball, but Oher's story was just part of a larger book on the importance of offensive linemen in football. Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Blind-S...
- .LAG liked that
I know everybody's talking about Quinn but what happened to that kid Samardzja (sp) he used to toss to back in '05?
- LANjackal
...yeah, Samardjia was coming out of the bullpen for the Chicago Cubs last year, has some really nasty pitches, but not a lot of baseball experience...
- .LAG liked that
...okay, Gruden cracked a pretty funny line, given the game: "...if the Ravens wore their throwback uniforms, they'd be the Cleveland Browns." How funny would that be: a scrimmage...
- .LAG liked that
.LAG thanks. Does either team want to score?
- Michelle
I heard that. Made me laugh too :)
- LANjackal
from IM
...Gruden's mom just played him on TV, showing off his childhood drawings... embarrassing. .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Michelle ...hahaha! it does seem like an exercise in futility... thank God I can multi-task here, cause this game is a snooooooozzzzzzzzer... but then, I said that for parts of last night's Patriots/Colts game too. ;)
- .LAG liked that
Every time I look up either the Browns or the Ravens are on the 40. The next time I look up they are punting. Multi-tasking--oh yeah. After the drama last night all the wind has been let out of my football sails.
- Michelle
I nearly quit the Colts game with 8 min left. That would have been a horrible mistake.
- LANjackal
from IM
O btw thx for the update rjcc and LAG
- LANjackal
from IM
LOL @ the Browns fan with the paper bag on his head
- LANjackal
from IM
...this game is the first 0-0 halftime game all season... LAN, you predicted Browns/Bills II, you may be right! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Look at the offenses. The Ravens can't finish and the Browns have nothing. A safety might win it tonight
- LANjackal
from IM
Ed Reed, make it happen buddy. We need some action.
- Michelle
...yes, someone, anyone, make something happen....
- .LAG liked that
Wow a score with 10 guys on the field. Do anybody no if Mike Holmgren is available as a mid-season coaching replacement?
- Michelle
...now it's really over. I don't think the Cleveland Browns have the ability to score two touchdowns in a game.
- .LAG liked that
Now a pick. Wow! .LAG I believe you're right. So so pitiful.
- Michelle
...if Mike Holmgren went to Cleveland, he'd want complete control, and would probably fire everyone on the coaching staff and in the front office...
- .LAG liked that
...but I think Cleveland has a lot of money tied up in Mangini... and it's a bad economy, you know. ;-p
- .LAG liked that
Wow, if someone had told me Quinn would be this bad in the Pros I'd have laughed at them. If someone had told me to pick the Biggest Rookie QB Bust, it'd have been Mark Sanchez. Life is funny. Also, the Browns are probably second only to the Raiders in sheer dysfunctional nature
- LANjackal
from IM
...too early to call Quinn a bust, but he's yet to show one glimmer of hope. for one thing, they never let this kid throw downfield... it doesn't make any sense, he's got the arm strength...
- .LAG liked that
I'll have to keep up with this on SportsTap on the Droid, I'm out. Y'all enjoy the rest of the game :)
- LANjackal
from IM
...after having my heart ripped out of chest in last night's Cal/Stanford game, I didn't know if I could watch football today... I'm getting a late start, finally turning the tube on... what have I missed?
- .LAG liked that
Ditto KC. Man good thing I'm not a Steelers fan
- LANjackal
from IM
What makes this KC victory even better is the fact that when the Bengals win they are virtually going to have the division locked.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Packers outlast Niners, 30-24... big fantasy day for Aaron Rodgers, ick, another Cal guy...boo!
- .LAG liked that
...Bengals on top of their division... and they've yet to lose inside their division. Maybe the "HBO Hard Knocks Curse" is over
- .LAG liked that
The 49ers are stuck in the 90s. Singletary drew the wrong lessons from his experience. Dynasties haven't been running centric teams. This year the best running teams aren't in the lead. Singletary, play the team you have, not the team you want to play with in the 90s. The 49ers are a passing team, that's where their strengths are. Make it happen.
- Todd Hoff
Detroit has a future with Stafford and Calvin Johnson (aka Megatron)... at least they're competitive this season... 2 wins is a marked improvement over zero!!!!
- .LAG liked that
Looks like the Browns actually allowed Quinn to throw down the field this time around. No W tho o well
- LANjackal
from IM
Todd ...I agree with what Billick was saying at the end of the broadcast: the 49ers have to decide what kind of team they're going to be. When they go into that spread offense, suddenly, they can move up and down the field effectively. Alex Smith became the top draft pick playing in a spread, Crabtree became a top draft pick playing in a spread... play to your player's strengths
- .LAG liked that
Wait! Detriot won! Yeah! They were my lock, I thought they lost.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Wow, and to think, most people will only get to see highlights.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Wasn't it just this Monday we were saying Cleveland couldn't score 2 TDs in a game? Hmmm. O btw Pats INT, they're up on the Jets :(
- LANjackal
from IM
...what's that I'm hearing from NYC, a collective groan, coming from all the sports bars and living rooms in the Tri-State area, is it, no it can't be, why yes it's chants of: "Sanchez sucks, Sanchez sucks..." .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
...this memo just in from Denver: Chris Simms is not his father.
- .LAG liked that
LOL take off your Stanford cap for a minute. Sanchez is one of the best rookie QBs of the decade
- LANjackal
from IM
He's better than Vince Young (although the latter was a better college QB by far)
- LANjackal
from IM
With how he has played the last few weeks you can't say Sanchez is one of the best.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Sanchez is playing like a rookie! Everyone was hoping he'd have a Flacco or Ryan rookie year, but you know what? If you look at Flacco and Ryan, neither or them are exactly living up to last year's accolades. Maybe we can get back to this time-tested notion that it takes most NFL QBs three or four years before they "figure it all out" and stop expecting rookies to lead you to the Super Bowl
- .LAG liked that
LAN... actually I think Roethlisberger was the best rookie QB of the last decade. Won a Super Bowl as rookie, and has just steadily improved, and won another SB along the way, and after he went flying off of a speeding motorcycle no less. .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Jets special teams gets them on the board, but otherwise, they're getting spanked by the Pats: 24-7
- .LAG liked that
@LAG: touche, forgot about Big Ben
- LANjackal
from IM
It's a wrap for the Jets. Time to the hit the shower & get all Dougie (yes I AM A RAP FAN) for the Bears game with the girls :P
- LANjackal
from IM
hahaha! ...fresh take! oh the Jets... it started so promising...
- .LAG liked that
Wait... what the... did the... are you kidding me? The RAIDERS beat the Bengals?!!! So much for the end of the "HBO Hard Knocks" curse... sheesh!
- .LAG liked that
Can I get excited about the return of Vince Young yet?
- Michelle
nah not yet. h-town's where I'm from, go texans
- LANjackal
from IM
Aw come on LAN VY fell OFF I think he's back on.
- Michelle
don't get me wrong, I love the kid. But city team comes 1st. good news is VY's from htown too so it's a win for the hometown either way
- LANjackal
from IM
I hear and accept that explanation ;-) This one is looking like it will be back and forth and likely tight near the end.
- Michelle
Oh nos looks like there will be no early bedtime tonight.
- Michelle
I love watching Chris Johnson... he's a 50-yard-run-about-to-happen every time he touches the ball! I don't know about his grillz though! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Wow! The Titans are bringing the option back to the NFL... that's what VY ran in college...
- .LAG liked that
LenDale White lost 40 pounds this summer... by cutting out tequila, he said. ha!
- .LAG liked that
I can't call him Butterball White anymore :-( I guess Alge can have those honors.
- Michelle
...sorry, been doing laundry. .LOLz! I think this game is going to OT!
- .LAG liked that
Hahaha! BTW, good point on the "icing the kicker"...by not icing him. I may just be making this up, but Brown looked like he stopped short, almost like he expected the whistle to blow for a timeout. If that's what Fisher wanted to do, it WAS brilliant!
- .LAG liked that
Yup, I think he totally expected the TO to be called and Fisher outsmarted him. I've been waiting for a coach to do that.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Who's ready for Pats-Saints already? I hate both those teams, but that is going to be A GAME. Phew. Might even make Colts-Pats look like a tea party
- LANjackal
Me. Being from SE TX I'm in the minority who've seen NO outside of Mardi Gras/partying. Suffice it to say my opinion of it isn't that high. It's also the only city that the DoJ threatened to make its PD a federal operation because of the level of corruption. Ask any Tulane student, they'll tell you horror stories of dealing with cops there. Then there're the horrible roads and other infrastructure.
- LANjackal
from IM
Yeah, I know folks from NO... it's an "interesting" place.
- .LAG liked that
BTW I know the rest of y'all are going "phew thank God he's cool with my city" HA check again. Other places I hate: Norcal, Boston, the Entire states of Alabama & South Carolina, anything in between Atlanta and the FL border. Ta-Da *takes a bow*
- LANjackal
from IM
VInce Young was just on the ESPN post-game show... his necktie knot was just a massive as Stu Scott's. He was wearing a brown pinstripe suit, which, while not my color for suits, was not bad, except the shoulders had those "epaulette" (sp?) things. What happened to just getting a nicely-cut, classic suit!
- .LAG liked that
LAN... where DO you live now? I'm in SFO/Bay Area. Love it, just hate the prices... of everything.
- .LAG liked that
That's classified, LOL. FWIW I know a lot of ppl hate TX too, so it's all good. There are some other places I don't really vibe with but am cool with: Baltimore (my heart goes out to the people who actually call that place home). New York (SHOCK!!): just too urban for me to live there, but that's where a chunk of family is so I support them hardcore
- LANjackal
from IM
As for VY, he's got a good heart and that's all that matters. Facepalm at the fashion, but good heart. I'd rather see VY in what he was wearing than TO in shades at a Cowboys postgame press conference
- LANjackal
from IM
BTW Vince looked every bit the Longhorn he was tonight. I bet Mack Brown was proud of his "son", as were the 3 ladies (close female relatives) whose roses he has tattooed on his arm. He's quite the fighter and I hope it's only onward and upward for him
- LANjackal
from IM
Hahaha! Good point on the TO thing. I rip athletes and performers on their fashion picks because they make enough money to hire people who can dress the better... anyway... until the next game, keep the thread going... I'll be away from the computer for Thanksgiving, though...
- .LAG liked that
Damn dude you can stay away for that long? I'd wither and die. Good luck with that :S. All the best and enjoy :)
- LANjackal
from IM
WHO PUT MONEY ON THE RAIDERS TODAY? Come on I can't be the only one hahaha
- LANjackal
Thought u were on vacation from the computer, buddy ... what happened?
- LANjackal
from IM
So far, Raiders/Cowboys game seems like a few big plays by the home team, not much esle. More later when I get back onto my own computer... Happy Thanksgiving
- .LAG liked that
Giants now behind by 2 scores. Oh dear
- LANjackal
from IM
This has to be quick: Jints are playing like turkeys, they look listless and unmotivated. No doubt the short week, the travel, and the mile-high altitude at Invesco Field are all factors, but they're getting dominated in all three phases of the game. that is all. gotta go...
- .LAG liked that
...OK, before I run, maybe that's what the G-men need: a big play on defense! Go Jints! L8R!
- .LAG liked that
You really oughtta get a smartphone LAG, that way you can keep up with all this via ur mobile browser :P
- LANjackal
from IM
Well, it looks like the problems in NY continue *sigh*
- LANjackal
from IM
Vince Young! FTW! Amazing finish! He leads his team on an 18-play 99 yard drive, and wins it with a TD pass on the last play of the game! WOW!!!!
- .LAG liked that
...yeah, Cardinal loss, and Niner win keeps SF's slight playoff hopes alive. Last year's NFC West rep was 9-7, so anything can happen...
- .LAG liked that
...the Baltimore/Pittsburgh game is NFL violence at its highest caliber...
- .LAG liked that
wait, did lanjackal really say Sanchez is better than VY right now? In what, tiddly winks?
- Richard Lawler
...huh? what? VY just led his team to a victory on a 99-yard drive...legendary shii...
- .LAG liked that
...this kid Dennis Dixon, a lot of people forget he was tearing things up at Oregon before he tore up his ACL. so far, he's not flinching against the Ravens...
- .LAG liked that
YEAAAAAAH guess who just came in from 9 hours of interstate driving!!! Whoo hooo high as a kite (off Red Bull) What's happening
- LANjackal
from IM
Check out the injury list. Does anyone else think concussions seem to be waaaay up across the board (both college & pro) this year?
- LANjackal
from IM
Thanks Ravens, thanks to you I won my pool :-) And I think it may be concussions are just diagnosed more lately as it has been linked to drool as you get older.
- Todd Hoff
As much as I love Peyton Manning, I can't help but feel sorry for my Texans. They seem to have perfected the art of blowing huge leads
- LANjackal
from IM
...after a long holiday weekend, I think I can handle one more football game, probably (and hopefully) the best one of the entire Thanksgiving smörgasbord of games, college or pro. Who Dat? Go Saints!
- .LAG liked that
Don't recall whether I said this last week or not, but as much as I don't like New Orleans, I'm going with them on this one
- LANjackal
from IM
...the Saints deserve some success, after all their years of mediocrity... hope we get a great show tonight! The crowd is electric, and it's coming through in Hi-Def...
- .LAG liked that
Pats already resorting to gadget plays...hmm...
- .LAG liked that
Pats already going on 4th down TWICE in opening drive... nice, Belichek...
- .LAG liked that
...fast-paced 1rst quarter, the football fans still haven't arrived...
- .LAG liked that
...wow, that's Saints football: 1-play, 75-yard TD bomb... unfortunately it's to a player on my opponent's fantasy team! ugh!
- .LAG liked that
...someone tell the Patriots that there's a game going on at the SuperDome!
- .LAG liked that
Dear Raiders: I have loved you since I was wee. Dad made me love you. Now, at 30, i finally understand why he put his foot through so many tvs. It wasnt anger, it was love. extremely pissed off love. Please to stop sucking so i can love you better. you hurt us both when you play like this. love, WarMaiden
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Also, nice to see someone actually *playing* against the Pats for a change.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
ωαřмaiden... the Patriots are getting "played" right now; the Saints are running them ragged, but Belichek is a master of adjustment, the second half will be interesting
- .LAG liked that
Im convinced Belichek does this on purpose just so the pats have some work to do in the 2nd half on occasion.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
...well, the Pats have a LOT of work to do this time. But in this case, the Saints are really really good, and that fact contributes most to the New England deficit
- .LAG liked that
....Pats climb back into it, and Saints come back with a 69-yard bomb, and are knocking on the door, again! wow!
- .LAG liked that
...going for it on 4th down, again... three times tonight... Belicheat plays it like he's playing Madden
- .LAG liked that
...very impressed with the Saints defense tonight. we know about their offense, but their D has been very effective against the Pats
- .LAG liked that
Drew Brees. 5 TDs...against the defensive genius of Bill Belichek! wow!
- .LAG liked that
if the Saints have done anything tonight, they've made Tom Brady look like a very ordinary NFL QB. they've punked the Pats tonight... i am speechless, without speech
- .LAG liked that
...the Patriots have pulled Tom Brady. Now I've seen everything...
- .LAG liked that
wow what? Sorry I'm in the checkout line @ the supermarket are you kidding?
- LANjackal
from IM
...that was about as sound a beating as you'll ever see in the NFL. The Saints dominated the game in every way. The Patriots couldn't contain them. The Saints defense made stops when then needed them, every time. nice!
- .LAG liked that
Yep, Pats got laid the * out tonight
- LANjackal
from IM
I'll say this: the college game -- Oregon/Oregon State -- is being played at a much higher level than this Jets/Bills snoozer, but it is in Toronto... .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
...wonder if Friendfeed's Jamaican Torontonian, Shey, is at the Bills/Jets game, it's in his town!
- .LAG liked that
Oh right there's a game on tonight! Thanks for reminding me :)
- LANjackal
from IM
Actually Oregon State vs. Oregon takes precedence tonight. Sorry
- LANjackal
from IM
I'm not sure the Thursday Night Game works for the NFL... it doesn't feel like a "football night"... not just saying that because this Jets/Bills game is so mediocre
- .LAG liked that
It's good sometimes. The Packers-Cowboys game in the first year they did it was pretty good. The NFL Network's broadcasting has improved a ton too IMO.
- LANjackal
from IM
...yet the actual NFL Net's broadcasts are getting better, but the big networks still do a much better all-around job of televising football IMHO, probably because that's their core business: broadcasting stuff...
- .LAG liked that
Jets 19, Bills 13... final... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
- .LAG liked that
NFL Red Zone TV... best sports broadcasting invention evar! In the space of 90 seconds, I just saw a Steeler FG, a Colts TD, a Chiefs INT in the endzone, and Michael Vick's first football play in Atlanta since going to jail -- all live; yeah, Vick was roundly booed.
- .LAG liked that
Looks like i'll have to order that ... how much does it cost for the season?
- LANjackal
from IM
RedZoneTV is part of the sports package. It's $9.99 on Comcast ...10 games at the same time today, no commercials...
- .LAG liked that
$10/mth!? *picks up phone to call Comcast* Thanks for the heads up man :)
- LANjackal
from IM
.lOLz! Well, unless you're a diehard sports fans, Comcast's other failings might not be worth it. I'm kinda locked into this, because apartment-dweller
- .LAG liked that
WOW! great Raider INT against Steelers in the end zone. Raiders D stepping up. Steelers up only 10-6
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It's a nice end run around DirecTV's stranglehold on Sunday Ticket
- LANjackal
from IM
...Yeah, and as far as I understand, RedZone is an NFL production....
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Vince Young was nicked up, he's back in game, but Kerry Collins is warming up
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Washington about to take a lead into halftime against the Saints: 17-10
- .LAG liked that
that dude, Vince Young, leads Titans to last-second TD to end first half. I'm starting to buy his stock
- .LAG liked that
I think he's gonna be one of the great NFL QBs. He's got everything to make it happen. I think the rest of the work that needs to be done is all in his mental game
- LANjackal
from IM
OMG, crazy play: Brees is picked off by Redskins, but Meachem strips the ball from DB, and takes it to the house for a TD! under review though...
- .LAG liked that
Nice ... Tony Brown handed the Colts a FG with his jawin'
- LANjackal
from IM
Atlanta goes for a 4th-and-1 on the Philly 22yd line...turns into a 78yd Pick-6 the other way for the Iggles. wow!
- .LAG liked that
...wow, great TD pass by Miami's Chad Henne, Patriots now up 21-19
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Redskins TD. They have something going against the undefeated Saints. Up 27-17!
- .LAG liked that
Who knew? There are two "Zach Millers" in the NFL, and both of them play tight end. Raiders Zach Miller (No. 80), and Jags Zach Miller (No. 86)... just saw two Zach Miller highlights in the space of two minutes
- .LAG liked that
Miller... Lite or High Life? Great taste or less filling?
- .LAG liked that
Touchdown Raiders! ...they've just gone ahead of the Steelers, middle of the 4th Quarter! Wow!
- .LAG liked that
Tennessee has had two fourth down plays inside the Colts 15-yard line, and they've come away with ZERO points... when did NFL coaches start playing Madden with RL players?
- .LAG liked that
Tom Brady ...intercepted in the end zone. never see that...
- .LAG liked that
Touchdown Steelers, my fantasy guy, Mendendall...they retake the lead on the Raiders
- .LAG liked that
Michael Vick's first TD pass as an Eagle... in Atlanta! he is housing the Falcons! whoah!
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The Raiders score on a 75-yard bomb to Louis Murphy to re-take the lead on the Steelers. amazing!
- .LAG liked that
...I'm overdosing on football right now, this is crazy...
- .LAG liked that
I would say so. Exciting just to read your comments.
- Russellreno
Brees comes up with a huge pass on 3-and-11... Saints are in the red zone, trailing the Skins 30-20, about 9 minutes to go... the perfect season in jeopardy
- .LAG liked that
Hines Ward scores on a 10yd TD pass with about 1:52, Steelers back on top, 24-20. It will be the Raiders game to win...
- .LAG liked that
Redskins stout defense holds on the 8yd line. Saints kick FG to cut lead to 30-23, about 7 minutes left. I kinda want the Saints magic season to continue...
- .LAG liked that
Colts will end the Titan's winning streak, stay undefeated...
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Raiders are driving... can you believe it?
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Dolphins are driving. Former Stanford WR Camarillo makes big catch on 4th-and-6...Dolphins in FG range, down 21-19, under 3 minutes...
- .LAG liked that
Titans score to make it a 10-pt game, and then recover onside kick. not so fast my friends. under 2 minutes though
- .LAG liked that
Raiders catch a prayer on the 15-yard line. In position to score. Only 27 seconds left...
- .LAG liked that
Dolphins kick a late field goal take their first lead 1:00 left in the game.
- Eric Logan
dirty hit by Steelers will give the Raiders the ball inside the 10, under 20secs to go
- .LAG liked that
...what Eric said, Dolphins take a late lead...but give the ball back to that dude, Tom Brady, with about 67 seconds left...
- .LAG liked that
Dolphins interception. Hip Hip Hooray !!!
- Eric Logan
Crap. Patriots just can't seem to get road results this year.
- Mark H
...3rd and goal for the Skins. They'll kick a FG, go up 10. Saints outta TOs... the perfect season in Crescent CIty is about to end.....
- .LAG liked that
49ers went for a 4th-and-goal from since the 2yd line...and failed. What is it with NFL coaches and 4th down this year? Belichek has started a trend. SFO 0, Seattle 0
- .LAG liked that
Look for the Bronco's Moreno on a few magazine covers in the future. Kid's got a face
- LANjackal
from IM
...well, especially if he has more multi-TD games like he did today
- .LAG liked that
Booth is reviewing a potential Redskins fumble in their end of the field...
- .LAG liked that
Miami QB Chad Henne, and comedian Will Ferrell: separated at birth. .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
Jints recover Cowpokes fumble into the endzone... overturned by replay
- .LAG liked that
...ever since the 49ers went to this spread passing offense, they've become a quick-strike team overnight
- .LAG liked that
Niners new offense was recommenced by the QB and two WR, but you knew that.
- Russellreno
...here comes the Jints, and then Eli Manning is picked off in the endzone. ugh!
- .LAG liked that
...yeah, Niners have flashes of brilliance, but lack consistency...
- .LAG liked that
Oh come on GIants! Cowboys cash in on easy TD
- .LAG liked that
Yeah G-Men! Brandon Jacobs takes a short pass and rumbles 75-yards down the sidelines for a touchdown. Dallas is challenging that he stepped out around the 15yd-line...
- .LAG liked that
...ruling upheld. Giants TD. Up on the Cowboys 21-17, late 3rd
- .LAG liked that
...Cowboys miss a FG, Jints still lead by 4
- .LAG liked that
...49ers are driving, Alex Smith is having a career-high day in passing...
- .LAG liked that
Giants take a punt back, about 70yrds... stick a fork in the Cowboys, they're just about done here...
- .LAG liked that
...G-Men stop Cowboys on a 4rd-and-3, just need to run out clock
- .LAG liked that
...Niners defense has to save this game for SFO
- .LAG liked that
...Niners are in danger of losing another heart-breaker... Seahawks are in position for a gamewining FG, from the 15yrd line!
- .LAG liked that
SEAHAWKS WIN!!! another tough road loss for San Francisco
- .LAG liked that
The question this evening can Favre make magic yet again
- WarLord
I think Brett Favre shines in the biggest games, and tonight, against the defending conference champions, on the road, is a big game
- .LAG liked that
It wasn't a tough loss for the 9ers so much as a comedy of failure. With 52 seconds left in the game you take like 10 seconds off the clock? That's perhaps the worst time management in the history of the universe. UFB.
- Todd Hoff
Todd... this was like the Minnesota game early in the season, questionable late game clock management gave Niner opponents chances to win games in the closing seconds. Who said coaching doesn't matter?
- .LAG liked that
Yet we can't change coaches all the time either. Argh.
- Todd Hoff
Brett Favre... TD pass. His magical season continues...
- .LAG liked that
This is already shaping up to a fun game, Vikes 7, Cards 7
- .LAG liked that
...that's why they say Larry Fitzgerald is "half man, half amazing"...
- .LAG liked that
TOUCHDOWN AZ!!! BTW I'm so ecstatic about the Giants winning today. I saw the Cowboys go up by 10 and figured I might as well go to sleep. I'm happy now :)
- LANjackal
from IM
...great TD play from Warner to Boldin. Cardinals looking good on SNF
- .LAG liked that
...Kurt Warner is putting on a show tonight
- .LAG liked that
...ghastly broken leg injury for the Vikings, you could see right away...thankfully, NBC isn't playing it over and over again...
- .LAG liked that
...i don't know about that one, his leg was kind of flopping back, in the wrong direction...
- .LAG liked that
...not kind of flopping...flopping, broken....
- .LAG liked that
...overthought my fantasy QBs today: benched Brees vs a tough defense on paper, for Favre vs average defense, playing in prime time. Brett Favre has looked below-average tonight
- .LAG liked that
...whoah, get home, and the game is already at halftime...
- .LAG liked that
"GO PACKERS?" Really? LANjackal... I thought you were a fellow G-man fan? The Packers are not going to catch the Vikings for their division, so that means they're competing with the Jints, and lots of other teams, for a wildcard spot. Packer losses help New York, no?
- .LAG liked that
...quoth the Ravens: "Never more." Nice comeback by Baltimore
- .LAG liked that
...whoah, that's strange, Coach Harbaugh (from Stanford) is on the Baltimore sidelines, helphing Coach Harbaugh (from the Ravens) and he's just as fired up as the rest of the team, I know they're brothers, but sheesh...
- .LAG liked that
Packers are looking good this year. I'm thinking they'll win a wild card spot at 11-5
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from iPhone
Steelers vs Browns, NFL Channel just kicked Off
- Eric Logan
...working late, let's see if the office TV has NFL Network...
- .LAG liked that
Huh? What? What's happened to the Steelers? Why are they trailing the Browns 12-0?
- .LAG liked that
Because god loves the Dolphins? Browns 13, Steelers 3, Halftime
- Eric Logan
...one thing about the NFL Network broadcasts: they definitely bring the crowd noise up higher in the mix, makes the game seem more existing... Steelers driving for the late tie...
- .LAG liked that
...and with this surprising loss -- the fifth one in a row -- we can now close the 2009 book on the Steelers: the defending champion iz ded...Browns 13, Steelers 6. wow!
- .LAG liked that
Wow is right. Dolphins - Jags is huge this weekend at least to me :)
- Eric Logan
...this Steeler loss means the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Ravens are all still in the playoff race.
- .LAG liked that
Yo yo yo where everybody at? Watching Colts - Broncos, anyone else?
- LANjackal
Colts making it look easy at home. 14-0 with 5 to go in the 1st quarter
- LANjackal
...just turned on NFL RedZone TV to catch live looks at a Packer FG vs da Bears, a Steve Smith TD bomb against the Patriots, and -- blast from the past -- a Terrell Owens TD catch-and-run against the Chief...
- .LAG liked that
Does that come in HD or in SD only?
- LANjackal
from IM
Broncos just went for a 4th-and-1 against the Colts and got stuffed... what is it what NFL coaches and fourth down plays in the red zone?
- .LAG liked that
Dallas Clark scores a TD...but hurts himself... I need him in fantasy, my team is losing and are on the brink of being eliminated from the playoffs...
- .LAG liked that
Chad Ochocinco scored a TD... and just trotted back to his sideline. No spike. No celebration. Nothing. huh? what?
- .LAG liked that
The Broncos went for yet another 4th down inside their opponent's territory... and lost, again. it's an epidemic of poor game management
- .LAG liked that
Baltimore's Ray Rice has over 200 yards of total offense... at the start of the 3rd Q. nice!
- .LAG liked that
Falcons have just tied the Saints 23-23, with a lot of time left in the 4th Q
- .LAG liked that
Ricky Williams has fumbled three times today... Jaguars drving for the lead, Dolphins 14, Jags 10
- .LAG liked that
Peyton Manning threw his 3rd INT of the day... Broncos in red zone, down 21-7, late 3rd Q
- .LAG liked that
Vikings almost took Ochocinco's head off then.
- Mark H
Falcons hold Saints to a FG try in red zone: NO 26, Atlanta 23... about 5 minutes left
- .LAG liked that
Oh! Falcons throw INT in their territory... Saints will milk clock and try hit the killshot...
- .LAG liked that
Brandon Marshall of the Broncos has 19 catches vs Colts... over 12 minutes to go. The record is 20, held by Marshall and TO
- .LAG liked that
...not so fast my friend. Falcons hold Saints to a FG, Saints fake it, and don't get the first down. Falcons have 2 minutes to tie or win...
- .LAG liked that
O man, Broncos are back in it, Colts haven't scored since halftime. Scary.
- LANjackal
from IM
Brandon Marshal ties the NFL catch record with 20...by scoring a TD... Broncos lining up for 2
- .LAG liked that
Colts hold, but it's a 1-score game... Indy 21, Denver 16... over 9 minutes left...
- .LAG liked that
Indy needs to put this game away
- LANjackal
from IM
orton-marshall express rolling hope they'll march for another one, its fun to watch
- Yunus Tunak
Falcons down to a 4th-down play at the NO 45yard line
- .LAG liked that
If i'm reading my twitter updates correctly then the Patriots are now down to their final two uninjured people and one of them is Belichick.
- Mark H
Saints hold them, great tackle by LB Vilma.... Saints will stay undefeated...
- .LAG liked that
Jags get stuffed on 4th down... looks like the Dolphins will win...about 1 minute to go...
- .LAG liked that
Thanks to an anemic performance by Aaron Rodgers, my fantasy team has been eliminated from the playoffs.... I coulda used that $500. :(
- .LAG liked that
Oh Colts driving, *Manning* of all people picks up a false start in the red zone
- LANjackal
from IM
Colts have come right back and have driven down the field on the Broncos.... Denver must hold them to a FG
- .LAG liked that
Wow that Mike Hart is the truth. Delivering in crunch time for the Colts. Love it
- LANjackal
from IM
Dolphins win.... a whole lot of AFC teams are 7-6, looking for a wild card spot...
- .LAG liked that
Hart stopped. Broncos exhaust their timeouts
- LANjackal
from IM
TD Clark, Manning could have made that play blindfolded. He looked like he was walking across his living room
- LANjackal
from IM
...I think the Colts have enough to stay undefeated now...
- .LAG liked that
BTW did anyone else see the 2 Lions players who collided on a tackle that a Raven escaped from and ran down the field after? Hi-lar-i-ous
- LANjackal
from IM
That game was a joke. I hope I get to see SD - Dallas next
- LANjackal
from IM
Baltimore 48, Lions 3... that's pretty bad, but the Patriots beat the Titans 59-0 earlier this year...
- .LAG liked that
Vikings win 30-10, over Bengals, clinching a playoff berth
- .LAG liked that
Cowboys going for it on fourth down in the red zone... i guess this is the new NFL.... seen more 4th down tries than ever this season...
- .LAG liked that
Chris Johnson hits another home run.... 39-yard TD run... love watching that guy!
- .LAG liked that
LT's wife is pretty. Nice SD scarf
- LANjackal
from IM
...btw, the Colts break the NFL record for longest regular-season winning streak...
- .LAG liked that
...Panthers players were saying that Randy Moss wasn't competing at all... and Tom Brady was seen talking to Moss as the receiver stared away, as if to say "dont talk to me"... interesting...is "Bad" Randy making an appearance?
- .LAG liked that
...fans at the Chargers/Cowboys game can watch the game in 3D on the world's largest flat panel HDTV -- on the screen above the field, . but, I always thought that "real life" was in 3D!
- .LAG liked that
...DeMarcus Ware, the Cowboys all pro stud pass rusher is being immobilized and carted off the field after suffering som type of serious neck injury...he's giving the thumbs-up sign as cart moves off...
- .LAG liked that
LOL @ Rex Ryan's J-E-T-S vs. M-E-S-S postgame press conference
- LANjackal
from IM
Giants Justin Tuck, being interviewed by NBC's Andrea Kremer, moments before kickoff, starts the answer all of her questions with: "Man...." --poor Andrea.
- .LAG liked that
Ummm....Jints, wtf are you doing letting Michael Vick complete a long pass against you?
- .LAG liked that
Ummm... the Eagles scored way to easily on the Jints!
- .LAG liked that
I think he meant "mayne" #ImfromHouston ... it can be used in conversation with either sex ;)
- LANjackal
from IM
LAN... what kind of start was that? The Eagles just walked down the field like they were warming up against a half-speed defense!
- .LAG liked that
I have no idea ... I'm just trying to keep it together mentally on this end TBH :S
- LANjackal
from IM
Are you kidding me? Is that a fumble? OMG!
- .LAG liked that
*as Keyshawn Johnson* Oh my goodness!
- LANjackal
from IM
Wow, this is awful. I'm mortified
- LANjackal
from IM
Not the kind of start New York needs.... ew? Can we hit reset on the Madden game?
- .LAG liked that
Brandon Jacobs just cut off his rubber sleeves... he apparently couldnt "feel" the ball on that last fumble? Of course he couldn't feel it... he fumbled it as soon as it touched his hands...
- .LAG liked that
Wow... that was crazy set by the Iggles: Vick and McNabb together, wildcat action fro to Vick, and he passes it... crazy and ultra-creative too
- .LAG liked that
Yeah (on the completion) and LOLz! on the Jimmy Football 3-way condiment gun... an ad loaded with double-entendres.
- .LAG liked that
OMG the PS3 ad is even worse. Moral of the ad: Buy your family a PS3 or blonde white collar dude will steal your wife and kids from you. Wow.
- LANjackal
from IM
Yeah! Jints fight back... hold the Iggles here, get the ball back first in 2nd half
- .LAG liked that
LAN... those PS3 ads are, well, "multi-layered" for sure
- .LAG liked that
That IS a catch WTF is he challenging
- LANjackal
from IM
...OK, now the game might be over, and maybe the Giants season too...
- .LAG liked that
Go 9ers. If they win we win the pool. No, I'm not that hopeful...
- Todd Hoff
...the Niners went from a running, smashmouth team to a dink-and-dunk passing team overnight. it's a terrible waste of one Frank Gore, a premier NFL RB
- .LAG liked that
Turnovers are killing the Cardinals tonight.
- Eric Logan
5 turnovers and counting for the Cardinals, 0 for the 49ers. if the Niners can't win with that +/- differential they don't deserve to win
- .LAG liked that
...I hate to say it, but this game is starting to have all the earmarks of another 49er late game collapse...
- .LAG liked that
K I'm back from sushi, sorry to be late everyone ... *ahem* now where are we *glances at agenda*
- LANjackal
from IM
Nah! I think the Niners have this game under control now...
- .LAG liked that
...especially if the Cardinals keep putting the ball on the ground light this...
- .LAG liked that
...looks like San Francisco is just going to run the clock out now...
- .LAG liked that
Sweet! As long as the D creates 7 TOs we can win
- Todd Hoff
from iPhone
Colts vs. Jaguars NFL Network Tonight.
- Eric Logan
...is Peyton Manning going to play the entire game tonight? I don't think he will, because the Colts don't care about a perfect season. I think that's a mistake.
- .LAG liked that
I hope they do play for the perfect season. Dolphins fan here. I always want everyone to lose once, just not this week. :-)
- Eric Logan
I prolly won't be here for the whole game, gotta go party later, but I'm here now. Ready for somf fun, GO COLTS :)
- LANjackal
from IM
How bout dat boy Dallas Clark?
- LANjackal
from IM
What about him? I'm not able to watch the game right now...
- .LAG liked that
Nice TD catch from a short throw by manning
- LANjackal
from IM
Man, Jags ain't messin' around tonight at all. Up 10-7
- LANjackal
from IM
Jags have to win to stay in playoff race, no?
- .LAG liked that
...that's just great. MoJoDrew deserted me last week, when my i got bounced from the playoffs in my money FFL...it sounds like now he has the big game! ugh!
- .LAG liked that
And now it's the Jags who can't block anything. Addai just walked to a 1st down
- LANjackal
from IM
21-17. 5th lead change of the game
- LANjackal
from IM
Jesus Christ no one can block anything in this game. Jags return kickoff to the 40something yard line. Colts need to stop them this drive or they're gonna get worn into the ground
- LANjackal
from IM
...sounds like a crazy game I'm missing. I guess it's not going to be so easy for the Colts to stay undefeated...
- .LAG liked that
Jags saw the Colts run defense coming. Now they're switching to the air attack. It's working
- LANjackal
from IM
Dolphins where beating them 24 -3 and lost by 12. Gimme on 4th down can't hurt though.
- Eric Logan
...good points Eric. i t looks like the Saints offense is starting to make the right adjustments...
- .LAG liked that
Saints finally on the board. Lawdamercy.
- Michelle
...Saints look like a very ordinary team so far...Brees is a little stymied right now...
- .LAG liked that
They've been down by this much before, they could do it. Just wondering if this perfect season stuff is getting to them.
- Michelle
the Cowboys are housing the Saints... they're beating them up pretty badly... New Orleans is getting exposed tonight, their defense can't stop Dallas
- .LAG liked that
Tomorrow's headline: Cowboys Burn Saints at the Stake
- LANjackal
from IM
I think the Saints are in trouble this time 24 -3 comeback last time started much earlier.
- Eric Logan
Cowboys defense is playing out of their heads... they're completely locking up the Saints
- .LAG liked that
Saints have 15 minutes left to make something magic happen... I'm not feeling it...
- .LAG liked that
You know what, this show doesn't suck that much. eliza dushku is still terrible tho, she's killing it. but otherwise it's not bad at all.
- Richard Lawler
I have been suffering through her not quite acting for a hot minute, she did well this round.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
"A Quebec woman’s health benefits have been suspended after she posted photos of herself smiling on Facebook. Nathalie Blanchard has been on leave for the last year from her job at IBM in Bromont, Quebec. She has been receiving monthly sick leave benefits from Manulife due to depression."
- AJ Batac
from Bookmarklet
before I click: I bet there's more to it than that.
- Richard Lawler
after I click: she was smiling ON A SUNNY VACATION. yeah, minor detail not in the headline
- Richard Lawler
reading through it, that's pretty weak sauce. I don't really know the definitions, but couldn't someone who's clinically depressed still be able to smile on occasion? Like with friends on a birthday or on a vacation or something? To dictate this major policy based on a limited sample of pictures posted on a social network (and not say, a doctor's opinion or something) seems ridiculous.
- Chieze Okoye
If you're supposed to be getting well..for a year, and you're on vacation (and I'd bet a considerable amount that there's even more to the story like she lied about going on vacation) and there's no doctor's explanation of why...then no, it's not ridiculous. She was faking and they caught her at it, only the FACEBOOK PICTURES details were deemed important enough for the article.
- Richard Lawler
Again Richard, my point is that a few pictures on facebook (which together capture less than a second in the existence of this one person) is not sufficient evidence to say someone is cured from clinical depression. No insurance policy regarding depression should be based on that as it is not impossible in any sense of the word for someone to be clinically depressed and also smiling for a camera shot.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze - did you read the article? The insurance agency agrees with you. So, what's your problem with this?
- Richard Lawler
Except they suspended it based on this "evidence" at all, rather than checking with a doctor before taking such a drastic step.
- Chieze Okoye
And (also from the article): "Manulife says the photos are evidence that she is no longer depressed." So yes, I read the article and it seems to me that they're saying one thing and doing another. Making them hypocritical as well.
- Chieze Okoye
How do you know they didn't check with a doctor? It doesn't say they're evidence because she is smiling. You're assuming that aspect.
- Richard Lawler
Richard, and I didn't read the article yet. If there's more to it, than the more to it should be presented in the article. The reporting isn't well if Chieze still has these questions.
- Lynne d Johnson
Sorry Richard, but I found the original CBC article. And there, just as here, the VERY STRONG implication is that Manulife used the facebook photos as their sole point of reference to determine that she wasn't depressed. In fact, in the CBC article is a statement from Nathalie that she was doing those things specifically on her doctor's advice in order to try to do fun things like that to help the depression. http://www.cbc.ca/technol...
- Chieze Okoye
Smile does not equal no longer depressed. Just because you use 22 muscles to smile doesn't mean the negative horrible depressing thoughts and low energy is not still there. Insurance companies practicing medicine without a license again.
- CW™
I read the original article Chieze, unfortunately, caps or not, there isn't evidence of what Manulife used to determine she wasn't depressed. The key elements here are what her doctor told her to do, and what she told her employer and insurer.
- Richard Lawler
TBH, I find it odd that you're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to an insurance company driven to cut expenditures and improve profit over a woman that had been (apparently) diagnosed by a doctor as depressed going out and trying to have a good time on advice from her doctor.
- Chieze Okoye
From the article ""I don't think for judging a mental state that Facebook is a very good tool," he said, adding that he has requested another psychiatric evaluation for Blanchard. "It's not as if somebody had a broken back and there was a picture of them carrying …a load of bricks," Lavin said. "My client was diagnosed with a major depression. And there were pictures of her on Facebook, in a party or having a good time. It could be that she was just trying to escape.""
- Chieze Okoye
Richard, again, I still haven't read the piece yet, but will shortly. This isn't being well reported if we don't know what steps have been taken in the insurance company's determination. If all we have are the facebook photos -- then that alone is not substantial enough to make a judgment. No we can need read into the article and assume to know that there was no follow up in terms of a...
more...
- Lynne d Johnson
I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that the headline is sensationalist based on FACEBOOK PICTURES. I don't think I can judge the worthiness of her case beyond the facts that her policy was suspended and the company is willing to put in writing that it wouldn't cancel it solely on facebook photos. That would imply there's something else, right?
- Richard Lawler
There is no indication anywhere that Manulife used anything BUT the Facebook pictures. The fact that her lawyer is ordering the new psychiatric evaluation (rather than say Manulife after it found the pictures) speaks volumes.
- Chieze Okoye
Speaks volumes of what? Her lawyer is trying to build a case for his client? What else would he possibly do?
- Richard Lawler
That Manulife didn't think that maybe they should get a current doctor's opinion before they cancelled or suspended her coverage?
- Chieze Okoye
and how do you know that they haven't done that? You don't have a statement from their end at all beyond the written one that says they wouldn't suspend or cancel based only on Facebook photos. That's it.
- Richard Lawler
Lynne - until it actually goes to court, if it does, it's unlikely there's any way to know exactly what happened in the decision. The only reason the article exists, as evidenced by it appearing in the tech pages, is because it involves Facebook. That's the only detail we know for sure.
- Richard Lawler
I don't know for a fact (you're very right about that), but I presume based on the fact that all the quotes related to the issue with Ms. Blanchard say specifically that they didn't and Manulife hasn't said specifically that they did.
- Chieze Okoye
and I presume this case never goes to court, we'll have to wait and see.
- Richard Lawler
From the article, "Blanchard's case will be before Quebec Superior Court Dec. 8." Seems to me like it will.
- Chieze Okoye
Uh, no it isn't. The word superior doesn't appear anywhere in there I could find.
- Richard Lawler
Oh, whoops, you're right. Sorry, it was in an SFGate article (originally from AP) about the same issue that I was looking at concurrently http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
- Chieze Okoye
I googled, looks like it's in the AP version, but it's not in any of the Canadian papers.
- Richard Lawler
Hmmm, that's odd. The plot thickens. I guess it is just wait and see.
- Chieze Okoye
Richard, I do get your point. The article itself was meant to be sensationalist. It certainly was. There's gotta be more to this story. But it would be the burden of the woman to prove that she's not ok in such a case I suppose.
- Lynne d Johnson
"We have a picture of you smiling, bye" just seems a bit short, even for heartless insurance companies.
- Richard Lawler
This was in the Wall Street Journal today: "Manulife declined to comment on the case specifically but has said in a statement that "we would not deny or terminate a valid claim solely based on information published on Web sites such as Facebook.'' Ms. Blanchard's case is set to go before Quebec Superior Court Dec. 8."
- Lynne d Johnson
Just an update - http://www.cbc.ca/canada... She's lost her first try to reinstate benefits before the trial happens, which the paper says could be months or a year away. Apparently the documents manulife submitted indicate that they gave their report (indicating the facebook pictures and their investigation which it...
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- Richard Lawler
and ugly stupidity like this is why I am "WarLord" out here in the wild
- WarLord
Chronic depression/major depression/clinical depression (pick your terminology) is not really about "sadness", despite what most people want to believe. Day-to-day depression may be about sadness. Major chronic depression is about much much more. It's physical as much or more than mental, because it takes a toll on your entire physical body as well as your mind. And guess what? THAT can...
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- Mark "DerBingle" J
Cowboys Stadium 3D scoreboard experiment is full of nausea and @FAIL - turned off in less than seven minutes -- Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
...note to people at the stadium: if you're actually in the building, watching the game live, as it takes place on the field, you are watching in 3D ... duh! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
...actually, at the stadium, you get a "5D"-experience -- the smell of the place, and the touch of weather, the seats, etc. is included...
- .LAG liked that
See how it redirects to www.google.com/reader?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, my point is Louis's stats mean as much as mine do - there are way more factors that go into this, I agree
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, without demeaning you personally, this is false and ridiculous. FriendFeed is a domain, a specific one, and I chose the primary domain. Google Reader is a subdomain or directory, and you chose the one that, as you show, nobody uses. The Alexa data you showed for FriendFeed illustrated something that nobody is experiencing. This isn't gamesmanship. It's just wrong, again.
- Louis Gray
I have a hard time understanding the fights and points Jesse chooses to get into.....just baffling.
- Matthew DeVries
Jason - considering some use FriendFeed as a replacement for Google Reader it's not apples and oranges - they're competition.
- Jesse Stay
Really? Why on earth would anyone use FF over Reader? FF complements Reader but shouldn't supplant it. Is there really a constructive way to read rss feeds here?
- Jason Williams
Jason, many people do that - it always comes out when Scoble is threatening to leave Reader. It's also why your FriendFeed stats now show up with your Feedburner stats.
- Jesse Stay
looks like we gotta get louis to work more hours to get that chart moving in the right direction!
- Allen Stern
Amen Allen (that's the spirit)! I'd love to see more stability and more focus on core functionality, not the social features. More stats, more organizational tools, more sharing tools. Better UI. Less bugs. I would use it more if that were the case.
- Jesse Stay
Give me a better way to manage thousands of items a day and I'll read thousands of items a day. For now I've had to reduce my use due to how bulky and hard-to-manage it all is.
- Jesse Stay
for the record i rarely to never use google reader.
- Allen Stern
when friendfeed shows me full content RSS feeds instead of just title links, let me know. until then, I'll keep using Google Reader. that's the same notion that twitter is a replacement for it. I get it but it doesn't work for me.
- Bill Kinney
Jesse knows that I read more than 1,000 items per day and am connected to more than 1,000 people via shared item feeds. The graph above is not valid. Google Reader is a great complement to FriendFeed, and always has been. It's the vast majority of my feed. Reader is also, very flexibly, able to share to different sites, including Twitter and Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Yes, Bill. Jesse is just grumpy today. :) He knows better than to post data without any substance and try and get a faux argument going. He also is tempting me to post a SocialToo traffic chart and compare it to Twitter. :)
- Louis Gray
i think that louis and jesse need a "time out" - both of you to your respective corners for a juice box
- Allen Stern
No way, Allen! Not when there are great injustices in this world! :)
- Louis Gray
louis i just sat through 4 hrs of city council hearings at city hall - not once did google reader or friendfeed come up :)
- Allen Stern
Jesse, the difference is that Readers traffic isn't dependent on who else is also using it. As much as Google would like it to be, it's not a social tool. I can get my FF feed in Reader but not vice versa. Do you really get your "news" from FF? It's the same thing with Twitter. People try to make it a RSS replacement but it isn't no matter how much you want it to be. 140 characters might be ok for links and quick social commentary but in depth news, not so much.
- Jason Williams
Allen, but they did mention a series of tubes, at least in passing I'm sure :)
- Micah Wittman
*thinks of how to talk Jesse down from the ledge...* Jesse, Hi :) At best you are criticizing conventional wisdom web statistics in general and mixing it with a clearly flawed swipe at Reader. ### Now, carefully, come back from the precipice and live to fight another day.
- Micah Wittman
You guys are all proving my point - that this argument is just as crazy a claim as this one is here: http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - you can't trust stats
- Jesse Stay
I use Feedly, which is off the back of Google Reader
- Ian May
Jesse, nobody has proven your point. The only point that has been made is that you made a mistake and tried to draw a parallel, and you failed.
- Louis Gray
Of course you can trust stats, Jesse. You just have to understand how they were collected, what they mean, and not try to use them to support some completely unrelated hypothesis. I've seen two graphs of US and global FriendFeed visitor stats that support two different statements... that US usage is down and global usage is up, respectively. The graph you've created for reader.google.com is irrelevant and immaterial, for reasons given above.
- Ken Sheppardson
I could be wrong, but a certain someone who pronounced FF as dead cited that new features in GR were going to kill it. Just sayin'. Also just sayin' - I'm with Louis on this one. The combination of Google Reader and Friendfeed have changed the game for me, bigtime.
- jcunwired
I'm probably in the minority but I have replaced Google Reader with FriendFeed. Pretty much for discussions like this one. I'm not sure I find the same value in Reader, I tend to bookmark and re-visit the same sites anyway. FriendFeed brings something to the table that a bookmark just doesn't. Reader, not so much. At least not for me.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
We need a UFC match between Louis Gray and Jesse Stay. The 9-lettered names of mayhem!
- beersage
I'd like to append my last post with, I still scan GR, so the previous comments about using GR and FF together as a powerful combination--in practice, if not in heart--I'm in agreement with.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
See what happens when I stayed in GReader (and some Twitter) all day, I missed a good thread. I read/skim a little over 1,000 posts a day, I'm not sure if I read more than Louis (42,597 items in last 30 days) but it's my information center. Friendfeed use to be my place for discussions around the news, since engagement has dropped here (for me at least), I've moved back to Twitter for a fraction of that engagement (FB for friends/coworkers/family).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I never knew there was a reader.google.com
- Richard Lawler
Almost all of Google's (non-acquired) properties can do both whatever.google.com and google.com/whatever which is very smart actually.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
On the subject, I must thank Louis, Jesse and many others that act as filters on GReader BTW. When I don't have time to go through the bulk, these guys help bring the cream to the top. I try to do my part in filtering for others but I feel that it's a team effort to bring the signal to others as automated filters aren't smart enough (yet).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Funny, I cut back on my usage of both services and the graph goes down. You can blame Scoble now. I don't use Google Reader anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Don't talk about yourself in the third person.
- Mark
I blame Scoble for the drop in the Twitter chart as well then. <smirk>
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
My use has gone down significantly and I'm seriously looking for the perfect solution to replace it. Hoping Seesmic or Tweetie or Tweetdeck do that soon. See: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
I now know Louis's Kryptonite - criticize Google Reader ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, please don't leave Gmail, because I still need that. Thanks.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse - I agree with your April blog post 100%. I also want to mention that Google Alerts is also a helpful tool for monitoring blog posts. (And without a doubt, most of us use it.)
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse, kryptonite would weaken someone if it were their personal poison. I am not weakened by your inaccuracies and stubbornness. :)
- Louis Gray
Anyone know what Feedly's numbers are??
- Roberto Bonini
it is still my best organic conversational real time tool...
- Yann Ropars
Is this a trend?? The holiday season and all?? What about Feedburner stats?? If RSS usage (i.e for RSS clients) is in decline (unlikely) it would show up there.
- Roberto Bonini
manieles: feedly's content is generated dynamically in the browser so the metrics you are pointing to are just metrics of our blog (most users download feedly from the mozilla (and now chrome) sites. 2009 was a good year for feedly: we grew 1,527% from Dec 08 until Dec 09. http://twitter.com/edwk...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ah, I guess that makes my comment above moot. There goes that theory.
- Roberto Bonini
Sorry Edwin, just like reader.google.com the compete numbers don't show the story of true use.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No problem Mark (it happens a lot). Roberto: Feedly is still relatively a niche service compared to Friendfeed and Google Reader so your theory could be correct. I do not have visibility into the Google Reader usage information but I can say that the underlying infrastructure keeps on getting better and innovating at a very fast pace. They have the foundation for a distributed...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Sounds like what I said about FriendFeed :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Friendfeed is down but they are not dead. It all depends on if Facebook will decide to invest and move the service forward or not. If they do not, at some point Twitter and Facebook will have a super set of the friendfeed features and at that point their will be no turn around possible. Friendfeed sold out too early.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, Jesse is having an off day. Feedly is doing fantastically. Google Reader continues to have the #1 position in RSS and things are flourishing with their social features. FriendFeed has great technology and a fantastic community, but stalled momentum. Jesse should be in better form in about 5-7 days.
- Louis Gray
Would be interesting to see a metric that measures total number of posts having comments and likes versus total posts and compare that to the "glory days" of Friendfeed. How much different is the engagement now?
- Steve
Louis is basing his "FriendFeed is down" on faulty stats - that's the point of this thread. FriendFeed's just fine: http://staynalive.com/article... - I agree Reader and RSS are fine. So is FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Steve, you can always use FriendFeed's advanced search to find 100 comments and likes posts.
- Louis Gray
Jesse, discussing this with you is getting boring. That post was wrong and based on data even worse than the public information I used.
- Louis Gray
Nothing on the Internet is dead until the servers are unplugged and the information is not cached elsewhere. There could be 1 unique user on a site and it still could be very useful for that one person.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, that's correct. I covered that when I said I would still find value if I were the last FriendFeeder. What's frustrating about this nonsense of a thread is that Jesse made a mistake with his graph and continues to stand by it.
- Louis Gray
As did Louis (I'm not standing by this graph - I was making a point), and he continues to stand by his (about FriendFeed traffic being down)
- Jesse Stay
It is a waste of time. It also does not benefit me or the community to make high visibility of negativity around this site. That's why I posted what I did here previously, also knowing it tends to be written about and spun by other blogs.
- Louis Gray
I don't think Louis believes his graph is wrong - who's the stubborn one? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Congratulates Jesse and his graph for making my best of day on FF. I am not a fan of Google reader. the graph looks accurate to me and the feedback I see of GR.
- Mike Nencetti
Jesse: I am confused. It seems that the point you are trying to make is that graphs are wrong in general and that both friendfeed and RSS are fine. Is that correct?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jesse, I believe that Compete.com data is not perfect, but it is the best publicly available data that we have. I also believe that the trends it portrays about this specific site are 100% accurate. Your data showing Google Reader at zero is laughable and an embarrassment to your reputation.
- Louis Gray
Mike, this didn't make "best of day". It made "most obtuse of the day". :)
- Louis Gray
Jesse: which metric would you use to determine if friendfeed as a service is up or down?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
It is not showing it at 0 - it is showing it at very low.
- Jesse Stay
Google Reader's traffic is hidden within www.google.com's data. Dare I add iGoogle for RSS feeds into that picture as well. However, Friendfeed's traffic is not hidden (for US Traffic) in Compete's numbers.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse relied on Alexa data (which is the ugly stepsister of Compete.com), and he suggested that Bret Taylor's graph showing a higher percentage of international users suggested growth, when, more accurately, it portrayed that US visitors fell away at a dramatic rate.
- Louis Gray
Louis: May be you and Jesse are looking at this from different angle and are both right
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Nah. Edwin, I will always support good data. :) This is bad data.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I never denied yours was based on US data. My point was FriendFeed was not down, which you claimed it to be.
- Jesse Stay
May be Friendfeed has a lot more persian users which are less active but nevertheless users. But over all Friendfeed has a lot less momentum and engagement because the early adopters have moved to twitter
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jesse, I continue to claim that global traffic worldwide, including US and non-US traffic is down, period. And even if you were right, turning this into Orkut or Friendster is not a thing to be proud of.
- Louis Gray
Jess: the problem is that down is not as important as momemtum and innovation.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, again, you're showing the wrong state re: Quantcast - click the "all" link and you'll see something more reflective. They're down in the short-term (at least in the US), but not in the long-term.
- Jesse Stay
There' nothing wrong with Alexa from a world view. Just don't mix numbers between Compete, Quantcast and Alexa. Compete clearly shows the US usage has dropped.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis, I never turned this into a comparison of Orkut and Friendster - where is this coming from?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the short term is the start of the long term. You know better than this.
- Louis Gray
I am. Those are sites dominated by non-US visitors, contrasted with Facebook and Twitter.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I disagree the short-term is the start of the long term
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: One simpler question for you: do you think that there is a chance for friendfeed to regain momentum and flourish without an engineering team behind it?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, absolutely, but I think there will be an engineering team behind it eventually
- Jesse Stay
and there is an engineering team behind it currently, or it would not be able to handle the current traffic.
- Jesse Stay
Hmm. Do you have another example to point us to? Where will the engineering come from eventually?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Friendfeed is clearly transforming. It may gain momentum for a while until 'other services' catch up. However once a better wheel is made...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Edwin, absolutely not - there are numbers to prove it - whether it's still FriendFeed or transforms into Facebook, it will still be around, and serving way more than it is now.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook wanted the brainpower and that brainpower is not integrated into other facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
That brainpower is still keeping FriendFeed running at the same time
- Jesse Stay
That brainpower still believes in FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I would listen to Edwin, and Matthew Davies, and almost everyone else in this thread.
- Louis Gray
Facebook is in a hyper competitive space, those brains are working 150% on facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
You can clearly see that the FF team is porting features into FB, they are attempting to have a friend of a friend system similar to FF. IF THEY SUCCEED, FB has become Friendfeed.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse, Bret is VP of Products at Facebook and working on Connect and the dev community which reaches 100x+ more people than FriendFeed does.
- Louis Gray
Louis I didn't say FriendFeed wouldn't transform into Facebook. I did say it wasn't going away and it would continue growing.
- Jesse Stay
But it is not growing, and that entire argument is dead right there.
- Louis Gray
It is growing, your argument is dead.
- Jesse Stay
I think that you are right that it is going to stay (that is a low hanging fruit) and it might grow in some geographies (like it does in Iran because of the network effect) and because it was ahead of its time in terms of conversation, the erosion will take longer but there is no doubt that with no engineering, it is a dead end.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
AOL is not growing but it's hardly dead. Wait, I'm on Louis's side on this...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
AOL is apples and oranges - if Facebook stops growing you can start comparing it to AOL.
- Jesse Stay
Mark, that's fine. I don't think there are sides. There's what's correct, and whatever Jesse is doing.
- Louis Gray
Or whatever Louis is doing - he seems to think he's correct, which he's not (now this is getting repetitive)
- Jesse Stay
Too bad the friendfeed team did not believe in friendfeed the same way Jess believes in Friendfeed!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, the FriendFeed team saw what we all see and sold at the right time for a fantastic opportunity.
- Louis Gray
I will agree to disagree with Louis - that's about the only way I'm backing down on this. I believe passionately in FriendFeed, and I see no reason it's dying.
- Jesse Stay
Edwin look at how much the FriendFeed team uses FriendFeed - they still believe passionately in the service. They believe so as much as I do.
- Jesse Stay
(and I never said it was dying, nor did I say I don't believe in what was built here) Go find me saying that anywhere.
- Louis Gray
I don't get what you are saying Louis - what is your argument?
- Jesse Stay
Start from the top. (And read your DMs). The graph you show here has zero validity and it is in no way relevant to the graph you are discussing from last week, period.
- Louis Gray
All I know is that public statistics lie. Paul B knows the real answer for FF, as does Jeff Huber for GReader stats.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Okay, so your argument is that FriendFeed is declining - isn't that the same as dying?
- Jesse Stay
If you get the flu, do you always die, Jesse?
- Louis Gray
If you lose 20 pounds, is it guaranteed that you will eventually hit zero?
- Louis Gray
Louis, okay, whatever - I see no reason it's declining
- Jesse Stay
Then you are being naive and ignoring all the public data, plus anecdotal data from this site itself.
- Louis Gray
The FF sale is more than a flu, it's a handicap scenario. It makes it harder to see a perfect future.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis: I am not sure that facebook was/is a fantastic opportunity for the friendfeed team. Facebook connect is awesome but this space is still at its infancy and I am not sure that the centralized facebook/twitter model will be the model of the future. Friendfeed had the advantage of understanding search really well and being distributed at its core - great asset!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, not naive at all - I shared the public data publicly on my blog, showing backed evidence the site is still growing. Where's your rebuttal? Do I have to show this again?: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Using your links in your article, Jesse, Quantcast topped out in August and has fallen significantly since. And we already noted that the Alexa data, which is the outlier, shows a small upward trend.
- Louis Gray
Louis, your argument is it's falling short-term. My argument is that it's growing long-term. My data supports that. I'm definitely not naive and frankly I'm beginning to be offended you're calling me that.
- Jesse Stay
OK. Good discussion. I think that Louis and Jess should go get a beer and huge each other. Time to go write some code!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Yes, if you put the calendar back far enough, the trajectory is upward. Of course it is. And Edwin, I can't get Jesse to drink beer.
- Louis Gray
I agree that if you go over a 2 year calendar, traffic to FriendFeed has increased.
- Louis Gray
I guess I missed something... I've seen (1) Quantcast and Compete charts of US reach/visitors which says domestic use is down (2) an Alexa chart that says international use is up (3) a comment and accompanying chart from Bret saying "international growth has started to completely dominate since August (4) a pretty significant shift in the FFholic Most Active user list to international users, and (5) lots of anecdotal evidence from English-speaking users saying they've seen reduced (or stable) activity.
- Ken Sheppardson
...is somebody taking exception to any of those observations?
- Ken Sheppardson
But the entire thread originated with the Google Reader flat line, which was a mistake.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, I think everybody's just trying to ignore that at this point ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I just don't get why Jesse's trying to make this you-can't-believe-stats/charts argument. I think there's something in my list of 5 point that Jesse thinks is wrong.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jesse doesn't believe the Compete or Quantcast data showing a decline.
- Louis Gray
I don't think I ever agreed the above graph was correct - it was put there to show a point
- Jesse Stay
So you believe US usage is up, or not declining, Jesse?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I didn't mean you can't believe them - I mean they can often be deceptive
- Jesse Stay
Which is amusing, because the blue line here is identical to the same blue line I posted last week.
- Louis Gray
So Google Reader is going to be like GM?
- Jesse Stay
Ah... sorry... a light bulb just went off... showing a chart that shows US traffic is declining is deceptive in that some people who look at it might conclude that's overall activity, when in fact total, world-wide activity is steady or increasing.
- Ken Sheppardson
That's one of Jesse's theories, Ken. (Still doesn't explain the Google Reader non-sequitir)
- Louis Gray
If Google Reader is like a Unicycle, it's like the Honda's U3-X..... a very cool one!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm starting to piece this together... so showing reader.google.com traffic is declining when in fact total Reader traffic is up... ?
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd agree with that theory. The World growth is outpacing US internet growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I just took a look at the graph at http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... Turns out that although international reach is up as shown in your graph, Jesse, Alexa shows a 20% or so decrease in their pageview graph since the peak near August. More users spending less time...
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, that is short-term though, which was another point of mine. Long-term they still have an upward trend. It is still much too early to determine if they are declining yet. Maybe in 6 months you guys can all show me I'm wrong.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook bought FF in Aug, that throws a trendline in completely different direction. It's an inflection point.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, FF took a dip after that, but they recovered and went even higher than before the FF acquisition. I wouldn't call that an inflection point.
- Jesse Stay
Which chart shows traffic higher than before the acquisition (not counting the spike after due to curious people who never heard of FF before they read it)? Are you looking at Alexa's "Reach"?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yes, Mark... Alexa's chart of international reach shows that the % of worldwide internet users who are visiting FriendFeed is up. It's also the 47th most popular site in Turkey, 227th in Italy, and 412th in Pakistan. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mark, correct, which is more accurate because it compares visitors globally, not just US
- Jesse Stay
In fact Alexa says 20.7% users are from the US and 20.6% are from Turkey, and another 20% or so from Italy, Japan, and India combined.
- Ken Sheppardson
Right but the question would be what were those percentages between countries back in August? A shift in demographics needs to be adjusted by online population in those countries.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There's roughly 74M people in Turkey. For every 1% drop in US visits, about 4% would automatically gain for Turkey in the Pie Chart without a single new user in growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't believe they're breaking out the % of users in each country that are visiting FriendFeed, they're talking about what % of FriendFeed users are coming from each country.
- Ken Sheppardson
Strongly Disagree. Look at my coupon work site: RedPlum.com 92.2% are from the US. I highly doubt I have that much audience but I'd love for it to be true.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Disagree with what, Mark? That stat means for every 100 people who visit your site, 92 are from the US.
- Ken Sheppardson
Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. It's a pie of % of FF visitors are coming from which country. We are on same page.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yeah, sorry... I switched from "reach" to the user breakdown midstream there.
- Ken Sheppardson
So as I was saying, a 1% drop in US visits moves Turkey up 4% when you factor populations and no new additions.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
To tie that together with Compete's US view, the US audience dropped 20% in last 90 days so Turkey would naturally rise in the pie chart regardless of new user growth from that country.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Actually digging that information a bit more, only 21.1% of the Turkey population uses the internet so the spread would widen even further.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
What a ridiculous discussion! It has already been said: the stats are apples and oranges. Let's look at the comparative numbers for internet users who are brain-dead versus those who can type. It would appear graduation from grade school bans internet access.
- Douglas Hopkins
Why does it freezes when I load more than 5 tabs? Is it normal? WTF are those processes that take more than 300K in total?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
from Bookmarklet
and Firefox rolls out a plugin for this shit... Why everybody immediately thinks everything that google releases is cool? After 3 days of intense usage I can say that Chrome is in its infancy and has huge problems with multitab management (have you tried to drag a tab before another one?), page rendering (I hate rounded corners everywhere) and lacks options.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
My power supply almost exploded! Rjcc turned on the juice and we did some serious gaming! 11,836 points of total gamerscore is pretty good. Admit it. He opened up 1 vs 100, and laughed with joy and glee the whole time. I like making people happy.
- Richard Lawler
Matthew I'm going to send you a request.
- Admiral Anika
Ack one day I'll actually get my XB360 hooked up to the LAN. Wish there were more hours in the day. I even have 3 mos of the "Gold" as part of the HD promo.
- mikepk
Thank you all, I've added and requested you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
ITBlogger Glad to see you bought a 360...you won't be disappointed. I sent you an invite.
- Alex Scoble
Actually I added everyone else too...so if you see a request to add ITBlogger, that would be me. Hopefully one of you has a higher gamerscore than me...I need a new goal. :)
- Alex Scoble
Amani, there was certainly a user with that username, added. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, added, thank you. Yes Xbox is great, my brother and I have been playing co-op Call of Duty, shame we have to start from the beginning every time - how can the publisher/developer have omitted that feature.
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, cool! Just got your request, and will respond as soon as I get back to the dashboard. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The New York Times is reporting that the NCAA is conducting an investigation into Tennessee football's recruiting practices, including their use of recruiting hostesses to lure in high school prospects. Officials have already visited four prospects and will speak to two more this week.
- Steve
from Bookmarklet
Recruiting violations have become a trend at Tennessee under Lane Kiffin, with six minor violations previously confirmed since he arrived on campus. It looks like that total is about to rise.
- Steve
as long as he wins who cares if he runs a clean program? a: not tennessee
- Richard Lawler
Recruiting hostesses have been used at other universities, too. This is nothing new.
- Bill Sodeman
"According to Insight Media, the stereoscopic 3D market is poised to grow from a handful of 3D-capable displays and a few thousand gamers, to an expected worldwide market of over 40 million 3D-capable displays by 2014."
- Alan Cheslow
from Bookmarklet
Not a chance in hell with current technology. I'll be VERY surprised to see gamers buy special glasses to use while playing games.
- Internet's Tad
analyst reports are BS. that said, the next gen of consoles are going to feature 3d heavily, and a lot more people will have 3d capable consoles.
- Richard Lawler
Rjcc brought the pain yesterday... the good kind... the gaming kind. We are up to 11,836 points of gamerscore. Jealous? That is an improvement of 45 points over last time! He rallied 1 vs 100 acquiring 1 achievement, Halo 3: ODST picking up 3 achievements, and then it felt like he threw my controller and I was like, TAKE IT EASY SHEESH and we stopped. I always like to end with a little bit about Rjcc and the ongoing gamerscore challenge status. Follow every up and down over here. 4 other people are mixing it up, meaning fierce competition and some creative trash talk. Out of everyone, Rjcc is holding on to the number 2 spot. With 2 days to go, anything can still happen though... get on it!
- Richard Lawler
"ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who is not a human being at all, but is instead a news-breaking machine comprised of gears, axles, conveyor belts, and punch cards, reports that Troy Polamalu is expected to be out for a month. The good news for Steelers fans, of course, is that Polamalu should hopefully be back for the playoffs. A straw-stuffed scarecrow is expected to bear the load in the Pittsburgh secondary until then. While not nearly as fast as Polamalu, it does scare birds away."
- Steve
from Bookmarklet
Statistics for Gerhart cannot overcome the fact he plays for an 8-4 squad when there are still multiple unbeatens in the FBS. Stanford will not, and should not, get respect from the voters.
- Louis Gray
The heisman isn't for the best team, but instead the best player
- RAPatton
from iPhone
I understand. That's like saying the MVP in baseball should go to the best player even if their team didn't make the playoffs.
- Louis Gray
It looks like Mark Ingram, Colt McCoy, or even Tim Tebow again. Bay Area fans are delusional around Gerhart, and it's not going to happen.
- Louis Gray
Statistics for Tebow overcame the fact he played for a 9-4 squad...
- Ken Sheppardson
++++Ken. Also, I'm not from the bay area. He's the best player I've seen this season. What will kill him is lack of tv coverage, but he's got a shot
- RAPatton
from iPhone
By the way, as much as I might think he should win it, I don't think he will. I don't think they can give it to Ingram and not Gerhart, considering they match up directly on paper and Gerhart wins that pretty handily. But as far as the Heisman goes, I think wins are sort of considered individual statistics when it comes to QBs, plus we're talking about college football and you can't really apply any logic to who and why "they" pick anybody for anything.
- Ken Sheppardson
My money is on Tebow, simply because he's already won it, and his hype engine's red-lined these days.
- Ken Sheppardson
Also, re "That's like saying the MVP in baseball should go to the best player even if their team didn't make the playoffs." ... or like giving the Cy Young to guys whose teams didn't make the playoffs. Oh, wait...
- Ken Sheppardson
But tebow wasn't nearly as good this season, and did little against the good opponents florida faced.
- Richard Lawler
I'd go gerhart and ingram before tebow, but tebow before mccoy
- RAPatton
Gerhart rushes for 205, Cardinal rally to ruin Weis' potential Irish finale - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live GameCenter - http://www.cbssports.com/college...
Nope. Stats cannot overcome a B-level team that won't be in the top third of its conference.
- Louis Gray
OK, just being picky, but 3rd out of 10 is top third, isn't it? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
who, golden tate? I hate everything golden domed but dude has been a beast all season.
- Richard Lawler
Louis, Tebow won the Heisman in 2007 while Florida finished 3rd in the SEC east
- chrisofspades
whoa, I just saw the highlight of that gerhart run on stanford's last drive, #4 got TRUCKED.
- Richard Lawler
It looks like Mark Ingram, Colt McCoy, or even Tim Tebow again. Bay Area fans are delusional around Gerhart, and it's not going to happen.
- Louis Gray
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *rapid footsteps, then a thump, as I run away and trip over my feet in my haste to escape*
- Bette Cooper
*cue looming spider shadow behind Bette* "YOU CANNOT ESCAPE, HUMAN"
- Mo Kargas
NNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mo, you are evil, and you must be destroyed. If I have spider dreams tonight because of you, I will use all the powers at my disposal and hunt. you. down. :-p
- Bette Cooper
*smokes cigar* Well, you're welcome to try. *rides giant spider into the night*
- Mo Kargas
OH NO WAY! I'm never coming there! :(((
- Rochelle
*sighs* Foiled by giant spiders and cigar smoke... for now...
- Bette Cooper
Objects in mirror may be larger than they appear...
- Ken Morley
@Rochelle Ohh you must. That's nothing! Wait to you see the other delightful creatures, like Australians themselves
- Mo Kargas
damn i always thought florida was gangsta when it came to bugs, then i remembered you guys have them all. jeez
- Carlos Ayala
@Mo That's obviously some type of reflection of an optical illusion or something. LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Looks a garden spider like we have around here. Just be glad it wasn't a wolf spider: those things will make you pee where you stand...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Did you tell him that unless he is chipping in for gas he has to hoof it?
- Joe Pierce
First the kangaroo tried to drown a dog, then the camels took over town, and now a spider claims Johnny's car. I agree with Lawler - not going to Australia
- Polly Potter
Actually the spider didn't bother me, it's the prospect of right hand drive vehicles that's unnerving.
- Richard Lawler
I once briefly thought about moving to AU, but your spiders quickly changed my mind. I'll stay in NJ, USA where they are much smaller and most are completely harmless. (I think we have only 1 rarely found poisonous spider here...brown recluse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- April Russo (app103)
Hey cool - wonder if he is friends with the cockatoo I saw driving a car on Thanksgiving?
- Martha
I love to game, you love to game, Rjcc loves to game, we all love to game! 11,791 points FTW!!! That is a gain of 25 points over last time! He played 1 vs 100 gaining 1 achievement, Modern Warfare® 2, and oh... man was it ever sweet! Oh, guess what? Our gamerscore challenge is going strong... Check out the progress right now! 4 other people are throwing down in this challenge. If I do the math correctly, it means that 4 players X 5 days means a whole lot of trash talk! Currently, Rjcc is setting the pace, though, jumping into the lead and hoping to hold on through the end of the challenge. No time for defense though... with 2 days left, we'll take the fight to them!
- Richard Lawler
I thought the story got way too ridiculous and there were a few parts that were really frustrating. Co op is great, multiplayer is great, but the single player just doesn't match up.
- Richard Lawler
Awww.. I loved single player. And yes, the story got pretty ridiculous, but it was just stupid fun! :) Pretty obnoxiously set us up for MW3. Very little resolution - especially concerning the main bad guy. And I'm still not sure what the hell Shephard's motivations were.
- Internet's Tad
and it was pretty short, I knew it was short before I started, but I was still surprised when it ended. it wasn't bad, just not nearly as good as the rest of the package. ultimately the story not making any real sense doesn't kill it, you just have to ignore what's going on and go shoot some guys.
- Richard Lawler
Rjcc decided to play yesterday. Check out the 11,766 gamer score! He played Modern Warfare® 2, and I thought Rjcc injured himself in the process... but I was wrong... he lives to fight another day! Also, Rjcc went and accepted a gamerscore challenge, so I'm stocking up on coffee for the overtime I'll be working over the coming days. Check it out... the challenge is called 'Auto Challenge - #41675'.
- Richard Lawler
I've not seen Transformers 2, but anyone who wants to punch it in the face I fully endorse. We should all get a whack yes? Haggis, nice call I wouldn't have even thought of that. Shevonne, why Hollow Man? I don't remember it being totally horrible. Aden, that movie deserved a groin kick. I've never seen Rise or Jane Austen's Mafia...I don't think I will.
- Joe Pierce
I'm seeing lots of deserving punchable flicks here. You all pass the test. I can't decide if I want to watch Hollow Man again to see if I agree with it or not...hmm
- Joe Pierce
at least the Planet remake had an awesome performance by Tim Roth. How in the world have I never seen B.A.P.S.? And why do I now have the urge to watch it? It's like when you have a loose tooth and you can't help but push on it even though it hurts...
- Joe Pierce
Joe, it's going to feel like you lost a tooth after watching B.A.P.S
- Shevonne
I don't know. I was once forced to sit through the Bratz movie. Can't be much worse than that.
- Joe Pierce
iRobot - made me want to burn all my Asimov books (no small feat indeed)
- Adrian
Planet 51. I spent 22.25 plus popcorn to see this on Saturday. It sucked all kinds of donkey balls. Nothing but NOTHING worth anything in this movie. It flat out sucked. And I'm very kind to movies usually. I want my money back you shitty, predictable movie making jackasses!
- Morgan Haley
I didn't mind iRobot that much, it had Tudyk in it and I'm very good at compartmentalizing my feelings between movies and books. Morgan, I can't say that I'm surprised. I don't think they expected much out of it which is why they opened it opposite of New Moon. Johnson needs to quit doing kids movies.
- Joe Pierce
Disturbia. I saw it for free, but I want them to apologize for making it. Joe, you HAVE to see BAPS. And make sure you are logged in while watching it. We need to hear all about it. Also, please answer the flip side of Joe's question: http://tiny.cc/s1FWC
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Crash (2004) directed by Paul Haggis. It's retarded meditation on race relations for one dimensional people and an unapologetic rip off of much better films, yet since it was about racism in LA it became a media darling and won best picture, even though it wasn't even in the best HALF of movies in 2004.
- veo
Magnolia is a beautiful, beautiful film. It's one of the only movies I know that actually gets better every time you watch it. It's not for everyone though. Incidentally, Magnolia is one of the better films that Crash (above) totally ripped off. Heh
- veo
The third Matrix movie and Batman and Robin.
- Alex Scoble
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. Or Batman & Robin. They have no business existing. Ooh, or Crash, good one veo.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't know what you are all talking about, the Bad Boys franchise is fun. Armageddon only sucked mostly, and the Playboy Centerfold video that he directed probably did exactly what it was supposed to.(except it needed more explosions).
- Joe Pierce
Pineapple Express, You, Me & Dupree, Journey to the Center of the Earth
- Danny Minick
Anything with Hugh Grant (mainly 4 weddings and a funeral though)
- Amy
!?!?!?!?!?! how can you not like hugh grant romcoms?
- Richard Lawler
I'll make an exception for 9 Months, c'mon that was gold!
- Joe Pierce
i have a weakness for hugh grant movies....shit, that totally makes me a foofie doesn't it?
- Morgan Haley
if hugh grant is on my TV humorously and absentmindedly wooing some unsuspecting young lady I can tell you where I'll be for the next two hours...son
- Richard Lawler
I like Hugh Grant on film. I do not like him in real life....C'mon, girlfriend like he has and he goes for a prostitute like that?
- Joe Pierce
I ain't fuckin him, I'm just listening to his wonderful english accent.
- Richard Lawler
as I said. I like him in movies, but in the real world I don't think he shows proper judgement.
- Joe Pierce
Oddly enough, I don't remember liking or disliking Magnolia, which probably means I fell asleep in it.
- Adrian
MOON... Jesus that sucked. Not even cute at all.
- Adrian
Magnolia's awesome. And Adrian, you mean Moon that was out this summer with Sam Rockwell? Other than a couple of issues I had with the narrative, I thought it was really good. Certainly much better than the crap that usually passes for sci-fi these days.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy, yeah, that one. Thing is, I had such high hopes for it, but the narrative and the science were just swiss cheese and Sam Rockwell bugged the crap out of me (which disturbed me as I generally enjoy his characters quite a bit). We've come a long way since 2001: a Space Odyssey and no one has come even close... or really tried, in my opinion. 2010 would have been great if it wasn't...
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- Adrian
Richard/Joe/Morgan: Oh come on, he has zero ability to act - he's the same character in every film. English accents don't do much for me, I hear them a lot anyway. :)
- Amy
Sarah - that and Seven were the Emperor's New Clothes of movies.
- Matthew DeVries
I didn't see Seven. Fight Club pissed me the fuck off. And I am so glad you agree! I knew I liked you, Matthew DeVries. ;)
- Call me Bronco
OH MY GOD, I take it all back, every movie I said is forgiven so that I may punch directly in the face THE SIXTH SENSE. It's an hour and fourty five minutes that I thought was two hours and thirty minutes that felt like 3 and a half hours. That movie dragged so much morbid ass they needed to import ass from other countries just to make it.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
All M. Night Sham-man films, Napoleon Dynamite, and the Original Wickerman.
- Neal Krummell
Oh Neal, thank you for reminding me. The Village. I would not just punch that one in the face. It would definitely be a kick to the nads, too.
- Chieze Okoye
I knew eventually someone would bring up "Hulk" with Bana. Which I consider the better of the new I-Hulk movies. The new one was really bad and just a cliche comic-book film. Everything M. Night did after the first half of Signs is punchable.
- Joe Pierce
Uhhh. They're. Games. You can't commit war crimes against bits. Wouldn't these people's time be better spent dealing with *actual* war crimes?
- Andrew Terry
from iPod
War crimes are committed by people. People enter scenes of war having been enculturated with specific values. Despite the best efforts of legions of researchers to prove there is no connection between the content of people's "entertainment" and their actions in everday life, the fact remains that the connections are there, they're real, and in many instances they're terrifically...
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- Bahiyyih
Some of the best moments in games are those that make us uncomfortable with what we're doing.
- aldenoneil
care to mention some specific ones? cuz honestly the article is really vague.
- Richard Lawler
We should ban books on topics that contain crimes also. Maybe we should burn them.
- Cristo
Bahiyyih, your assertion isn't backed up by anything but your feelings on the matter. Meanwhile, all the reports and studies that show there is no significant correlation between violent video games and real-life violence are backed up by actual numbers and research. Hmm, which do I put more weight in?
- Chieze Okoye
We should ban The Catcher in the Rye, because apparently it makes people crazy. And while we're at it, Romeo and Juliet, because teenage love in Shakespearean novels causes teen pregnancy.
- Cristo
It is worth asking the question, though - there's a difference between depiction and glorification, and we identify with characters in games and books. Books, games, TV, film all come out of a culture with its myths and beliefs, and in turn reinforce them (or not). But I see a difference between depicting something immersively and making it fun and a goal and giving points for it. If it is illegal to display child pornography in games, why are other things ok, like torture? We're weirdly inconsistent
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As a gamer, I'd like to point out that I and pretty much every other gamer I know are capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality. They want to turn an entirely fictional event into a crime? I know many people who elicit the same response from books as I do from games (since they are using their imagination to place themselves "inside the novel"), should we apply the same...
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- alphaxion
Joelle - which game is torture rewarded in?
- Richard Lawler
There are two schools of thought: 1) Exploring things that are lawfully and morally wrong through fictional media can influence people to accept as normal and perform these acts in real life, and 2) Exploring things that are lawfully and morally wrong through fictional media can allow people to have curious experiences that release them from desiring to carry out those acts in real life.
- Cristo
Of course, we could all adopt the philosophy that we won't do anything that we wouldn't let our kids do. That would stop drinking, wars, crowded freeways, and overpopulation.
- Cristo
Cristo - I think there can be a third option, where we explore those morally wrong experiences in fiction, but don't have any desire to carry them out in the real world. I can kill a bystander in GTA, but I don't feel like doing so is a release of any kind. Has acting out violence in games offered anyone a way to vent? It never has for me. To release anger, I'd have to do more than push a button; it'd require punching a punching bag or something.
- aldenoneil
aldenoneil, I agree with that, although I think it's more like 2b. I was trying to slant it towards have some benefit, rather than having no societal impact at all.
- Cristo
well, wasn't there a study which found people watching violent porn in japan actually had a reducing effect on the likelihood of the person doing that to a real person? And, I think the only real reason why they're jumping on something like this is because it's easy, gives the impression of reducing crime while actually not addressing any of the core issues which tend to be far trickier to tackle.
- alphaxion
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I think "idiot" sums it up. Pick any aspect of his career or personality and I think the word applies.
- Jason Huebel
didn't the POTUS call him a jackass? and doesn't taylor swift kind of owe Kanye for all the recent success she has enjoyed?
- Morgan Haley
Kanye West did make people feel more sympathetic toward her, but she's already plenty famous. She didn't need his shenanigans. Although I'm not into her music, she's apparently on the quick track to being a superstar.
- Jason Huebel
She was getting an award, am I right?
- Onur Gündüz
LOL. Looks like Taylor Swift took home a boatload of awards from the AMA's too: Favorite Adult Contemporary Artist, Favorite Country Album (for Fearless), Favorite Female Pop/Rock Artist, and Favorite Country Female Artist.
- Jason Huebel
beyonce's video was better, that's inarguable.
- Richard Lawler
I have no argument one way or the other about who had the better video. However, my original statement about Kanye being an idiot is also inarguable.
- Jason Huebel
Being an "idiot" has worked well for him so far.
- Richard Lawler
Actually - I think B's was trash. But I don't like her in general. Good singer - good performer. Crap lyricist.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I didn't like the song at all but the video was pretty major, I think she's good at writing lyrics, but the actual content of them is shit.
- Richard Lawler
Yep, Rochelle and I went to see Sweeney Todd. Before that I saw There Will Be Blood with some friends. Going to the cinema is such a painful experience that I rarely ever go anymore. I do plan on going to see Avatar if I can get my friends to do all of the hard work of making it happen.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Julie & Julia. Wow, I could've sworn I've been to the movies more recently.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Yeah, I'd go to films in the theaters more often if people had manners anymore.
- Spidra Webster
I got this one. We took our kid to see Monsters vs. Aliens for her birthday. Before that it was Spiderman or Dreamcatcher. Both were a waste of money.
- Admiral Anika
Uncertainty, a week ago. It wasn't /bad/, but not great.... I mean, the second best thing I can say about is, is that it rarely seems like the dialogue was improvised. (The best thing I can say is that the cinematography is terrific.)
- Andrew C
Star Trek. And my roommates had to force me to go. The moviegoing audience is so awful anymore that I refuse to go unless a film really grabs me. I'm content to wait for things to hit my premium satellite channels instead. :-/
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Hannah Montana The Movie. AND I LIKED IT! LIKED IT, I SAY! ^_^
- Ron Bailey
We went to the Toy Story & Toy Story 2 3-D double feature. Before that, Ponyo. Next will probably be The Princess and the Frog. All our base are belong to Disney.
- Alix Whitmire
Inglourious Basterds, in October. Christoph Waltz better win an Oscar.
- John Craft
New Moon... My wife dragged me to go see it and even though it was really cheesy in a few places I don't feel like I wasted my money.
- Jason Williams
I saw (Untitled) -- this is the name of the movie referencing untitled works of visual art-- last Friday as well as A Serious Man. I enjoyed and highly recommend both flicks.
- Lani
from iPhone
If one actor out of a cast is acting poorly, it's most likely the fault of the actor. If an entire cast is acting poorly, it's most likely the fault of the director. See Star Wars Eps 1, 2 and 3 for a perfect example.
The entire cast, Glen. George Lucas couldn't direct if his life depended on it.
- Alex Scoble
We should try that alex.... anybody wan to volunteer?? ;)
- Roberto Bonini
counterexample: V. They're all bad actors.
- Richard Lawler
I've sort of suspected for a while now that most folks in film these days can't act. I mean you can give them lines to repeat in a particular situation, and if they're close to what they'd say themselves in that situation, you can have them say it a few times, film it, and later you'll be able to splice together a passable film. But give them lines like "Hold me, Ani. Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo...where there was nothing but our love..." and the system breaks down.
- Ken Sheppardson
Incorrect, Richard. The one woman totally could and did act on Firefly. Perfect example though. V must have a bad director.
- Alex Scoble
No, she was at best average sometimes on Firefly, generally bad. Also, there is no director (or force of nature) that can take credit for Morris Chestnut's inability to act.
- Richard Lawler
Oh and the other woman is pretty good on LOST too.
- Alex Scoble
I agree with Richard. She was a mediocre actor on Firefly. She could of done more with the character. Hence the reason her part in the movie was so small.
- CW™
She was bad on lost too. Juliet has one emotion she can express, that one where she looks sad and surprised all at once. She has no other face.
- Richard Lawler
You will never be able to work for the Lightman group, I'm afraid. ;)
- Alex Scoble
You know exactly which face i'm talking about
- Richard Lawler
Ok, this whole thread is firing on all cylinders, but Ken wins.
- Micah Wittman
That said, V does definitely have a terrible director, at least for these first few eps, but these actors are beyond any help. We'll see how it is when it comes back.
- Richard Lawler