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Noise River: Rob Diana posted a message
7 hours ago - Link
try again and tell me please? :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
@directeur, thank you. When I write about this, I will mention the excellent service. - Rob Diana
You are very welcome Rob :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
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Aaron Brazell posted a message
9 hours ago - Link
That would be a huge step. If they can do that and get xmpp running again, they may finally silence the doubters for a week. - Rob Diana
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Louis Gray Facts: Mark Trapp posted a message
yesterday at 12:48 pm - Link
No, Louis Gray decides what will be on techmeme. - Rob Diana
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YackTrack: Rob Diana posted a link
Sunday at 5:19 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Seriously, I do want comments! I really want to know what features people feel are missing - Rob Diana via Bookmarklet
There is an annoying issue with the RSS feeds. It seems like some items continuously "update" specifically Technorati links. I will look into a better solution to this. - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana submitted a story on Mixx
18 hours ago - Link
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A magnitude 6.0 earthquake rattled southern Peru on Tuesday, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. The epicenter of the quake was located 33 miles north-northwest of Arequipa, - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana commented on a blog post on Disqus
20 hours ago - Link
"And now a comment from one of the little people. I have gotten very little traffic from blog links, even the famed "Louis Gray Effect". I do get more subscribers from referrals like that, but pure traffic is really coming from StumbleUpon, Digg, and FriendFeed. The real question is what are you looking for? if you are you looking for traffic, submit stuff to Digg. If you are looking for recurring readers and more subscribers, then spread the link love." - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana commented on a blog post on Disqus
yesterday at 4:47 pm - Link
"Very cool! Thank you shyftr (Matt and Dave)!" - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana submitted a story on Mixx
yesterday at 4:29 pm - Link
Well founded rumor has it that microblogging service Twitter has acquired search engine Summize. Jason Calacanis appears to have made the first public statement about it, though it ... - Rob Diana
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Louis Gray Facts: Bwana McCall posted a message
yesterday at 11:19 am - Link
I thought Louis Gray created the internet. - Rob Diana
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friendfeed-api: directeur posted a message
yesterday at 10:56 am - via NoiseRiver - Link
Why? So we can display an entry page with our custom permalinks. So we also can use ajax methods to retrieve content per entry - directeur via NoiseRiver
Yes. Yes. YES! Please don't make us resort to html parsing for comments and json parsing for likes. - Yuvi
the ID comes back in the JSON feed, so I am not sure what you are asking. I think the comments come back too, but I would need to check my code when I get home. - Rob Diana
I would really enjoy this too. I wrote an email to the list the other day. The reason it would be useful for me is that I present the order of articles in a way that the normal APIs do not. Having an ability to query by ID (or list of IDs) would allow me to get the freshest list of content in real time. Until then, I have to cache large amounts of data locally. - Patrick Lightbody
directeur - what do you do currently? Do you cache the JSON results locally like I do? - Patrick Lightbody
Rob, yes you're right but this is true if the entry you're talking about is in the current "version" of the feed. How do you refer to an entry (and its content) that is 4 months old? - directeur via NoiseRiver
Patrick: I do some caching yes, but it doesn't go far... I mean, I try to process everything at once and reduce the "va-et-vient" - directeur via NoiseRiver
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Julian Baldwin posted a message
yesterday at 11:24 am - Link
jkontherun.com is always a good read - Colin Walker via fftogo
thanks Colin! - Julian Baldwin
Probably not the best, but I like reading GottaBeMobile.com - Justin Korn
I second the thanks to Colin. Disclosure: I write at jkOTR. ;) Julian, there's no lack of good blogs that follow mobile tech / trends. http://mobile.alltop.com aggregates quite a few of them to get you started. - Kevin C. Tofel
Mmmm..I love mobile sites...my rss is lacking..thanks all - Bwana McCall
Kevin: Thanks for sharing alltop, it's a bit hectic, but gets the job done. - Justin Korn
I like alltop, but I find the lack of RSS disturbing - Bwana McCall
Bwana: Is there even a way to aggregate all the RSS feeds alltop pulls into a single RSS feed? - Justin Korn
I would also recommend http://www.boygeniusreport.com.... most other mobile and gadget sites seem to reference it. - Rob Diana
Theboygeniusreport, gizmodo, engadget and any niche specific blogs for winmobile, palm, iphone etc. - Corvida
Better yet, check out this feed made by Marshall Kirkpatrick and posted on RWW http://feeds.feedburner.com/Rw... - Corvida
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(jeff)isageek posted an entry on (jeff)isageek.net
yesterday at 10:06 am - Link
Jeff, I think the picture and main heading might be a little big. They push the content rather far down the page. That and it felt like you were screaming at us :) Otherwise, it is nice and clean. - Rob Diana
thanks for the input. I am getting comments on friendfeed, the blog, and via twitter. i appreciate them all. - (jeff)isageek
Clean looking theme. - Mike Fruchter
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Ontario Emperor posted a message
yesterday at 9:47 am - Link
Have not seen it yet, but I would love to read it. - Roland Hesz
They have but they made a really bad impression with the publishers they met with so no one would agree to print the book, they were going to print it themselves but they pissed off the distributors and buyers for major book stores so no one would carry it, they were going to just throw it online as an e-book but every time they had the slightest glitch with their isp or blog host they were so offensive to the customer service reps that their access was shut off. - Marco
Yes, there are several versions, but the earliest seems to be http://www.amazon.com/How-Lose... - Rob Diana
More information on the Irving Dart Tressler 1937 parody referenced by Rob Diana: http://www.amazon.com/How-lose... - Ontario Emperor
This thread, among other items, inspired a blog post on Irving Dart Tressler: http://mrontemp.blogspot.com/2... - Ontario Emperor
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Social Media: Marco Castellani posted a message
yesterday at 5:26 am - Link
I'm sticking with Twitter for now, but keeping a close eye on identi.ca . I don't really care much for Jaiku- but that's probably only because I've spent very little time on it. - Bec
ping all - lot´s of talk on plurk and sometimes twitter - Dieter Schwarz
agree with Dieter "ping.fm" all of them; but the community still is with Twitter IMO - Charlie Hope via twhirl
I'm sticking with where the community is - mark
Twitter. They'll get it sorted out. - john conroy
twitter rules. - michele mondora via twhirl
twitter. People actually still use Jaiku? - Mike Cohen
Interesting that jaiku is not much used. It has comments and groups, as well as native feeds ingestion, still missing (or not needed?) on Twitter. It lacks other things, such as direct messages, anyway. - Marco Castellani
Sneak down quietly and do them all... with Ping.fm - Robert Sanzalone
Identi.ca isn't stable enough. it seems to be worse than Twitter, so what's the point I switch to it? - Jansen Lu
twitter has the people, so we stay... the others are most likely too late, unless twitter goes down hard for weeks or something else catastrophic - Nathan Chase
I am curious where Identica or Kwippy can go. Twitter has the users, so until it dies or there is a significant move to something else, that is where I am staying. - Rob Diana
Twitter. Ping.fm, mentioned above, is nice. But, it doesn't consolidate the responses to a single message. And, it's only good for broadcasting a message. You can't have a back and forth conversation using it. - Gerard Barberi
I go where you go. - Robert Scoble
For me... friendfeed - Sachendra
In my case, I have a slow absorption rate. Twitter's sufficient. And this. - Rick Wolff
Jaiku of course! - sampsa
Twitter, because it is where everyone is and immediate, FriendFeed for conversations and other stuff though I still need to get to following a bunch of people to get a real river of news going on, Identi.ca is interesting seeing what develops over there, and Jaiku what goes on over there? - Justin Yost
I like twitter . . . can't get the hang of identi.ca . . but PLURK is alot of fun and very easy to get started. And you get the satisfaction of an almost instantaneous response from "the crowd". - Telemill
There is a huge microblogging activity while Dad Twitter sleeps - Igor Poltavskiy
I tried getting back onto Jaiku but it's a ghost town, despite the early promise of the service. Too early on Identi.ca yet, but I'm impressed to see regular activity a week later in my timeline. - Duncan Riley
so the user base decided the game. - Jansen Lu
Since discovering FF, I've strayed from all - Mona N
Twitter - don't fight it. Plurk for back-up. - Nigel Eccles
all lead to FF - Noah David Simon
Plurk and Jaiku are horrible.. 1. FF 2. Twitter 3. bright kite :) - Mona N
What makes that Pownce isn't (more) successful? - Lyonel Kaufmann
IMO Pownce is more like Tumblr or Posterous.. and there's no 'public' tab/screen - Mona N
I prefer FriendFeed over everything, and at the moment there is no contest between Twitter and Identi.ca. I logged onto Twitter this morning to friend somebody back, and couldn't... the whole things was down (again). - Jonathan Beckett
Thanks Mona for your response! ;-) - Lyonel Kaufmann
Lyonel, my gut feeling is telling me that it's all about simplicity. - Alex Popescu via twhirl
Of course Lyonel :) - Mona N
Ping.fm.... - Joe Dawson
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Tamar Weinberg posted a message
yesterday at 6:57 am - Link
Your followers, me included, can hide whatever we want from your feed or anyone's feed. So don't worry about it. - Louis Gray
Agree with @Louis. Although, wish FF had a "turn off all (socnet site) from everyone" (ie. Twitter?) - Barbara K. Baker
yea what louis said - Allen Stern
Barbara, it does. Here's a how-to on hiding: http://www.louisgray.com/live/... - Louis Gray
Barbara I think the already exists -- check the details of the hide function - Brian Sullivan
IMO what you share and what people see are going to be different, due to the ability to hide types of entries. My opinion is "share it, let everyone else filter their own view"... the only exception would be for the blog type, since you can't filter one without filtering the rest. - J. Phil
thanx @Louis. Learn something new each day @FF. w00t! - Barbara K. Baker
I'm with everyone else: let your subscribers shape the noise. - Akiva Moskovitz
The only place where there is a flaw and being careful of what you include is in a issue is with RSS feeds/blogs where the user can only turn them all off or on - no individual switch currently exists - Brian Sullivan
Depends on what you want your FF conversations to revolve around. If you want to keep your SU/Digg convos siloed @SU and Digg, then it makes sense. - Katina Beckham French
Digg and Reddit feeds just create noise. However they are important to see what interesting stories are out there. Keep them. - MikeonTV
Because we can hide whichever feeds we want, it is not an issue. I say share everything and let your followers filter. - Rob Diana
I don't think you should. You should share everything that you can - and the onus is on us and Friendfeed to filter/cope. I'm against reducing things to the lowest common denominator in most cases! - Andrew Girdwood
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to remove my stumble at least. Maybe my delicious too. I hate to see stuff I like come here 3 times over. - Jim Kukral via twhirl
Share everything you can... we can mute what we don't want to see. - Sean Reiser
Just come and post a little more often on FF! - Igor The Troll
negative. Keep'em. - john conroy
i have reduced a few to reduce the noise, you may want to consider doing the same - jeff selig
I rarely pay attention to anyone's Digg, SU, etc submissions on FF but don't find it distracting when it's there. One thing I've noticed is that since people use some social media sites more for work interests and others more for personal interests, combining them all in FF creates a sort of mixed persona - Adam Sherk
Akiva - that's a great way of putting it. I might quote you. Done. http://flipside.scribkin.com/p... Brian - I just removed my identi.ca feed because it would be categorized under 'blog' and therefore not easily hide-able if people don't like my pointless blathering. - J. Phil
I think my own Digg/Reddit/SU votes are getting too noisy for *me*. But thank you all for your valuable feedback :) - Tamar Weinberg
hide is there for a reason, people here are hungry for noise so why stop - Dobromir Hadzhiev
J. Phil, I'm famous! Thanks! - Akiva Moskovitz
Digg, what's Digg? ;-) Where's my Sphinn feed? Maybe I need to get RSS-clever with that. - Brian Carter
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yesterday at 6:47 am - Link
I think people need to start looking at traffic and subscribers. Granted, my blog is still fairly small, but I get more traffic and subscribers because of FriendFeed. - Rob Diana
If bloggers write less powerful titles, it will force people to click the link to see what the article is about ;) - Nick O'Neill
I'm amused by the terminology of "hurt" here, like FriendFeed is poking blogs with a sharp stick. Yes, there may be a short-term impact on ad revenue. There's also more commentary and discussion about blog posts, which may increase ad revenue long-term. The existence of active discussions outside of your blog is a *good* thing. - Brent Newhall
@Rob - that's the point I wanted to make. You have to buy off on the massive number of page reloads by commenters to believe that FriendFeed comments undermine bloggers' revenue. - Hutch Carpenter
Hutch, I love it! The thing is, even if Allen's highly inflated (10x!) figure was right that means $10 million dollar+ revenue sites (large blogs) would be hit by 1%, but the medium sized blog (say $350,000K) would be hit by $3500 and the small blog (say $3,500 and less in revenue) would be hit by $35 dollars...or less. - Robert Seidman
@Nick - now there's a different take. Less powerful headlines = more reason to click. - Hutch Carpenter
@Brent - I really wanted to avoid the "killing" meme. Hurt is better. And I agree that discussions outside the blog are a good thing. If you were to be commercial about it, discussions = marketing for a blog. You don't just market on your own site. You market out to where people are. - Hutch Carpenter
Who cares if FF affects blogger's revenue? Any blogger that cares is not a blogger but just a startup MSM clone anyway - Brian Sullivan
Hmmm... well, if bloggers can't make money and quit blogging, what content would be shared in FF? Since so much stuff shared on here is from pro bloggers, I find that question pretty hilarious. I'm SURE TechCrunch doesn't care about revenue at ALL. - Cyndy
Like we keep saying to the music industry; "adapt or die!" - Chris Nixon
@Robert - You're right. The logic on ad revenue applies regardless of blog size. Conceptually, there's a relationship between blog subscribers and the number of comments the blog receives. So anything affecting that ratio should move up and down the blog size scale. - Hutch Carpenter
@Brian - that's a good philosophical debate there. Once you get paid for writing, have you left the philosophical origins of blogging? I tend to look at blogging as more a user-centered activity, not a corporate-driven activity. If you happen to get paid, good on ya mate. But at some point, these big time blogs (e.g. TechCrunch) look more like corporate media companies. - Hutch Carpenter
Ohhh @Chris Nixon, I like that! - Bwana McCall
Cyndy -- I never said bloggers can't make money -- but if they are dependent on page views and advertising they are in the same boat as MSM media that they have been criticizing and showing no sympathy for, saying that MSM must adapt to live. If you make your bed you must lie in it. Adapt or die would be my advice. - Brian Sullivan
There are give and takes to everything, but at the end of the day I think there is a lot more "give." If a dozen people read and comment on an article of mine on FF it's worth orders of magnitude more to me than the pennies I would have earned if they clicked through. - Steve Spalding
Once again, a great demonstration of the rule that any headline which ends in a question mark can be safely answered with the word "No" :) - Ian Betteridge via twhirl
It will get really sweet when FriendFeed connects to other commenting systems. There is already some of that with Disqus. If comments are pushed back to the source article, they add value to the content published at that URL. Perhaps the killer upgrade from Friendfeed would be to have a widget that does in-place comments on any blog post. Actually that has already been accomplished with a Yahoo Pipes trick. - µnauta
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Steven M. Cohen posted a message
yesterday at 6:16 am - Link
I want like, love and hate links. That would be good enough for me. Not sure what benefits a slider/rank would give. - Rob Diana
I kind of like this post of yours, Steven, but not a lot. I give it a 6. - Joshua M. Neff
It is kinda funny when I want to "like" something to keep track of it, and the content of the thing I "like" is sad or bad news or something. - Steve Lawson
Hmmm. Maybe there should be a delicious/FF app/plugin? - Steven M. Cohen
I think the comments give enough room to expand upon how much you like/dislike a post - Slippy Lane
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Corvida posted a message on Twitter
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MG Siegler posted an entry on ParisLemon
Sunday at 10:23 pm - Link
see what i did there? switched 'meme' and 'Feed' and poof: a whole new word! - MG Siegler
Bitchfeed. I can think of SOOO many reasons why it won't catch on! :-) - Slippy Lane
Am I the only person who wants to see this? Just for the "look how silly this sounds" potential. - Rob Diana
"See you next week when the topic of discussion will no doubt be how awesome FriendFeed was during the iPhone 3G launch. Followed the next day by how overhyped the iPhone 3G is on FriendFeed." HA! :) - Yolanda
MG, you simply must be involved in the next game of Half-Baked.com i put together... http://500hats.typepad.com/500... - dave mcclure
@dave - i'm in! - MG Siegler
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Rob Diana commented on a story on Mixx
yesterday at 4:36 am - Link
"@Maing Sort of. Right now it is considered part-time/guest posting. We will see what happens." - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana shared an item on Google Reader
yesterday at 3:26 am - Link
Really good business model for twitter. Yes, that is my name on Mashable! - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana submitted a story on Mixx
yesterday at 3:09 am - Link
There have been several discussions about whether FriendFeed will kill Twitter or Twitter will kill itself or even some new application will kill both of them. - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana submitted a story on Mixx
Sunday at 5:57 pm - Link
<br/>"I am a big fan of Tux Typing. I have been using it in the classroom here in Saigon for about three years now. It is a great open source program to get students interested in learning how to type" - Rob Diana
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directeur posted a message
Sunday at 4:30 pm - via NoiseRiver - Link
Thanks in advance for every answer :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
I keep my RSS feeds to about 150. But I put a lot of effort into what I select, I focus on subscribing to the blogs/feeds that are at the very middle of what I want to track. Basically trying to find the blogs that everyone else gets their information from and then links to on their posts (ie TechCrunch for web 2 startups). - Tony
Thanks Tony! :) And how much time in average does it take for you to refresh them all? - directeur via NoiseRiver
I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I am getting over the 250 mark. Maybe it's time to start pruning, especially since I am noticing a lot of duplication since I subscribe to a lot of memes such as FriendfeedLinks, RSSmeme and others. - Mark O'Neill
Thanks Mark :) I'm actually doing a little study to find out how much time your newsreaders take to fetch the news. I myself, I'm subscribed to 49 feeds :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
177 but I need to do some pruning which I hope that my lil project with Feedly, Toluu, and Google Reader will help take care of. - Mathew A. Koeneker
I have around 135 or 150 in google reader. refresh times within reader are mostly just a few seconds. I tend not to keep it open all day though. - Rob Diana
I don't keep Google Reader open all the time. But I've noticed that it tends to pick up new blog posts pretty fast. - Mark O'Neill
About 250 right now and dropping. I use Google Reader, so it varies how long it takes to refresh, mostly very fast for popular feeds. - Michael Hocter
I needed these stats! Thank you all! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
I've never count them, probably more than 100. I use the iGoogle page to manage all the feeds. I don't like RSS readers. - fbrunel
fbrunel: yes but Google reader won't refresh automatically when you login. You can't refresh at all I think. They fetch when they think it's time to - directeur via NoiseRiver
What do you mean when you say "refresh them all"? I have mine set to check for updates every 30 mins when the app is open. But with Newswire (app desktop RSS on Mac) it could check them all every 5 mins for updates. - Tony
Tony, I for example use NetNewsReader. By refresh them all I meant the time it takes for the newsreader to go on all feeds and fetch them. The question in a clearer way (sorry my English's poor) when It updates how much time this update takes? - directeur via NoiseRiver
Oh, it takes anywhere from 30 secs to 2 mins to check them all for updates in my case (150 feeds). - Tony
Yes! That's it :) Thank you! - directeur via NoiseRiver
921 feeds in Google Reader. Can't really tell how long it takes to refresh them all since I put them into folders. But my guess is perhaps 5-10 seconds for them all. Never get a delay of more than a few seconds though. - Mike Reynolds
Wow! 921? That's big! Thanks Mike for the info :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Near two weeks I have only 1 feed. : ) That's my FF! But I think I don't miss anything. ; ) - Erhan Erdogan
Erhan! :) How do you do? Haven't seen much of you lately - directeur via NoiseRiver
I'm holidayicing my life! ; ) I'm only creating some new documents for some venture capital companies ; ) Want to have some money? : )) - Erhan Erdogan
Oh yes I need money! I need money! How much? Actually any amount is nice :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Do you have a business plan? :D:D:D - Erhan Erdogan
and also "an exit strategy" heheh : )) - Erhan Erdogan
Oh! Have to write documents for money? Forget about it! ;-) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Oww. : ) You should be an American Ganster : ) We must meet soon. : ) - Erhan Erdogan
Some of you are crazy with the feeds. I subscribe to 30 or so, but I keep my list very tight. Any extra feeds will amount to extra time wasted reading through them. Updates or refreshes for my GoogleReader or NNR (as I use both) take no longer than a 20 seconds at most. - Colby Olson
Thanks Colby :) I actually read about 49 in my desktop reader too. And surprisingly it doesn't take that much (30 sec) to refresh 'em all - directeur via NoiseRiver
263 subscriptions on Google Reader here - Giovanni De Stefano
I used to be subscribed to 200+ feeds, but I cut it down to ~10 and life got so much simpler :) - Patrick Lightbody
Thank you all! :) Caleb, how much time does it take you to fetch and parse them on toluu? - directeur via NoiseRiver
225 feeds here. Sometimes look at them via Feedly, sometimes Google Reader, most of them are in Flock too. I can go through them in different ways, according to the time I have on my hands. I need to ditch some feeds though, as I see the content elsewhere (via Twitter). - Ruud van Wijngaarden
directeur: not long at all :) - Caleb Elston
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Rob Diana commented on a blog post on Disqus
Sunday at 4:09 pm - Link
"The revenue can come from other streams. So for APIs, third party applications tend to add a lot of value. A new one like TweetDeck can make an application look fantastic even if it is not from the source. There is also the potential for something bigger right now, as nobody really knows where the web is going, but something has started. Twitter and FriendFeed look like major players in the future because of the amount of acceptance they have, mostly because of the AIR applications and other tools using the APIs." - Rob Diana
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Rob Diana commented on a blog post on Disqus
Sunday at 4:05 pm - Link
"actually, there has been talk of getting a standard for comments together by the various sites. It is not entirely formalized yet, but hopefully it can get off the ground." - Rob Diana
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