There were some bugs in the "Twitter publishing" code that caused some entries to get published on Twitter when they should not, and others to not get published when they should. I've cleaned up the code to eliminate these problems, but it's possible some settings were lost. Please verify your settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
Cheers for this Paul. How cool is it that one of the founders of FF still gets his hands dirty in the code. Once a coder, always a coder :-)
- Keith Bennett
from Nambu
Thanks Keith :) By the way, if none of your posts are making it through to twitter, it may be that you changed your password. To verify, simply click "Save changes" at http://friendfeed.com/setting... and we will check that your Twitter credentials are still good (and sign-out then back in to fix).
- Paul Buchheit
Matthew, in general all the same settings that the old ui had are available on the new one (plus a few more), though they are now divided on to several different pages. You should be able to reach all of the the settings by clicking on the word "settings" below your name in the top-right part of the page (the dialog shows a few, and links to all the others).
- Paul Buchheit
You can filter by service by searching for service:twitter (or whatever service you like), and of course that can be combined with other search operators as well. See http://friendfeed.com/search... for more.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks Paul, sounds like you pulled an all nighter to fix these.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, unfortunately the code had gotten rather involved since it was trying to support both the old ui and the new (the old ui worked on a per-service basis instead of letting you decide individually on each entry), and the logic sometimes became inconsistent. I simplified it quite a bit, so there should be less room for bugs now :)
- Paul Buchheit
Nice try, Matthew, I congratulate you on being awake, and carpe-diem'ing Paul here, but have to disappoint you - if FF wanted us to have favicons, they'd already issued us our favicons. Do you see any favicons that made the transition from earlier version. No? You think Paul nuked them by mistake... be my guest, and I'll be looking forward to the next couple of years' worth of your pleading for favicons when you could be learning to live both here and thereater without them.
- ianf ⌘
I'm a bit confused about the "Post my FriendFeed entries on Twitter by default" and "FriendFeed (when there's no Cc box)" options. Are these exclusive? Does checking the first one mean all my FriendFeed posts will get posted to Twitter even if I uncheck the Cc box?
- Tony Ruscoe
Paul, thank you thank thank you for the "Check CC Twitter box by default" option!!! That's one step closer to only needing Friendfeed. I'm almost ready to dump Google Reader AND Twitter now!
- caj needs a haircut
Tony, the "cc twitter by default" option sets whether then checkbox is checked or unchecked by default in the share box and bookmarklet. The other option ("when there's no cc box") applies mostly to the API and other off-site interfaces, such as email (mail share@friendfeed.com) and IM. For any given post, only one setting applies.
- Paul Buchheit
I publish to Twitter by default but now link directly to the source. I figure that those finding outside of FF want to go to the source (while those reading on FF are already seeing the discussion).
- Mike Reynolds
Hi Paul, about 15 mins ago I "shared" an item from FF here to "my feed" and "cc Twitter". But still not showing up on Twitter. Just thought I'd let you know.
- Brian
Thanks Brian. It turns out there was a bug in the "Share" feature that sometimes caused us to sometimes not send the tweets (the new code errors on the side of not sending tweets). It's fixed now though. Please let me know if you spot any others.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, that did the trick! Thanks for looking into that. BTW, that was a quick fix! Just shared an item on FF and it pushed thru to Twitter instantly.
- Brian
Hello Paul, when I try to publish just my google talk status to twitter and have "Link to source site instead of FriendFeed conversation" selected, it doesn't send the tweet. I'm not sure if this is because twitter seems to be having difficulty right now or if it's the lack of a source link because it's a google talk status?
- ehaab
ehaab, publishing to Twitter was broken this morning, so no updates went out. It should work fine now however, including publishing updates from Google Talk. Sorry about that.
- Paul Buchheit
thanks! it was driving me batty trying to figure out why it wasn't taking.
- ehaab
I think it's still broken. I just posted via the Bookmarklet and CC'd twitter... no go. EDIT: my latest one just posted, must be intermittent.
- Daniel Sims
Hi Paul, Mine is still not working. I have also checked the setting page.
- zahedzadeh
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that.
- Stephen Mack
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both.
- Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it.
- Josh Haley
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here.
- Bruce Lewis
not enough, best of day should be like a stream that can be traced back
- ffcode
"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats!
- Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks.
- Bret Taylor
Here in West Hollywood, my best friend of 18 years and his boyfriend are getting married. So yes, I get to be a groomsman at a gay wedding - prop 8 or not. Should be awesome.
- Louis Gray
It was a fantastic ceremony. One of the best weddings I have ever seen. It was traditional Jewish themed, so I am wearing a yarmulke to match the vest and tie. Lots of great friends from my teenage years.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Louis, I own a yarmulke as well - my wife brought it for me when she visited Israel
- Jesse Stay
+ a million for the whole thread. Looks like you're picking up some admirers here, Louis! Nylissk, we gotta warn you, you're ging after a married man with many admirers. You want a piece of this guy, you're gonna have to get in line - like filing a lien on a house with five mortgages and a line of credit, with outstanding remodeling bills. ;-)
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Hey, who is this guy from the past. Has he come to warn us about the future?
- Eric
hey, i'm Martyyyy on Realpics. about it being a story, some dude asked her for nudes, and she said no. and he called her a pussy if i remember correctly. so she defended herself by saying she used to be a stripper, and then the rest of it is right in front of you.
- Martyyyy
It's pretty retired to lunch into a asspletive attack when you bearly read end rite OMFG ... poor thing has a future full of *facepalm* ahead of her!
- Richard Walker
One of the latest comments from her Profile "Hey RDS, hows that hooked on phonics coming along? Clearly not working, inquire about a refund."
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Duuuuuude how in the world did you find this Jimminy?!
- Mona Nomura
Mona, search was working pretty well at the time, can't remember what I was looking for though. Edit: I searched for "pussy comments:jimminy" trying to find a post from a week or two ago where I posted "P is for pussy, that's good enough for me." Didn't find it though. Embarrassed.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
It said size 6-12 months, so at 8 1/2 months, I figured it was time, even for this petite girl. And yes, maybe Matthew will end up wearing the blue one more than she will over time, but I think she looks great in blue!
- Louis Gray
Jay, happy to help. One of the best books is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Healthy... (Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child) Get a routine going, and don't sweat the small stuff.
- Louis Gray
How about a Linux onesie? Don't worry, you won't have to compile the cloth yourself. Seriously, though, rather stylish Apple onesie.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Possible, yes, Matthew and Sarah will wear Linux onesies. Web and tech donations are always accepted. :-) (Microsoft included!)
- Louis Gray
Sarah looks adorable in blue! :) She's is really cute and playful!!
- Susan Beebe
Louis, you'd let them wear Microsoft onesies? In Matthew and Sarah's teenage years, how else will they rebel against their Apple-loving dad?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Will we be seeing Sarah holding Braden when he wears his Apple onesie? Or will he be sporting only Droidwear?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
WoH, Braden has both. He's too small for all of it though. Yesterday he wore a 6 month size "Geek Beta" shirt from Microsoft. It was plenty roomy. :)
- Louis Gray
It's so funny to me that there was ever a time when I couldn't tell them apart. Now? Even if you hadn't said this was Sarah, I still would have known.
- peamageddon
from iPhone
Holy moly, she's crazy adorable, Louis! Blast from the past.
- Chieze Okoye
Is that the latest from Google Labs?? Babies delivered by email? Great no more morning sickness, and mood swings! I'm sure it's still in beta...
- Daan
Hello sweet boy! He's the second Braden I know - and the name Braden Gray is so money. Congrats to you and your baby mama.
- Corinne L
Welcome to the world, Braden! You're a cute little peanut. Daddy hates those plastic packages with all the twistie ties, but it's for your own good. (guess he forgot to order the frustration-free packaging option. Oh well.) You'll be outta that thing playing and striking a pose with your brother and sister in no time! Just enjoy the spa and chillax for a little while. baby kisses, Love TheMacMommy & her babies - #LD & #KD
- Melissa Davis
Amazing that Christine was able to post so soon after - but she is a remarkable lady, so not that surprising. Congratulations to you all and the pics are lovely :)))
- WoH: Minding her Steves
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:)
- Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right!
- Jasmin Smith
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too.
- Michael Fidler
from fftogo
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks!
- Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo.
- Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them?
- Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-)
- Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good.
- Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close!
- Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing.
- Michael Fidler
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-)
- Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks
- LouCypher
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that.
- Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :)
- hasin hayder
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes...
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- Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these!
- LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009...
- Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set.
- Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists.
- Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ...
- Linda Zeek-Bobinski
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package.
- The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store,
- Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice...
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- Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have...
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- Michael Fidler
Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz?
- erik weisz
Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,...
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- Michael Fidler
I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look...
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- erik weisz
but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet
- Iphigenie
Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a...
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- Michael Fidler
the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it?
- Iphigenie
I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done.
- canadianmaple09
@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes
- Michael Fidler
The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this.
- canadianmaple09
canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone.
- Chieze Okoye
When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped.
- canadianmaple09
I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith.
- Chieze Okoye
Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same...
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- canadianmaple09
Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own!
- Michael Fidler
BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around!
- Michael Fidler
I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both...
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- erik weisz
@Caroline, trackback is one of three types of linkbacks, methods for Web authors to request notification when somebody links to one of their documents. This enables authors to keep track of who is linking, and so referring, to their articles.
- Fatih Taşkıran
A smashing success! Thanks to everyone who has participated. This is very cool. If you haven't yet, go ahead and do so. Original post here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Krynsky
Added. Surely I'm not the only FF'er in Africa?
- Neill Adamson
@Neill, that's great. You just got us to the 6th continent. I highly doubt we can hit 7 as there surely can't be someone from Antarctica that FriendFeeds.
- Mark Krynsky
The Antarctica challenge: OK, here's the plan: we need to contact Eli Duke (http://twitter.com/elisfanclub) he's tweeting from McMurdo Station, Antarctica. We have until February (some background I just found: on his 1st stint in the Antarctic he was a dish washer. In 2006 he wrote a functioning RubyOn Rails site, got burned out and tried to give it away on Craig's List...unsuccessfully--it's back online now http://listyourlist.com/ . McMurdo Photo: http://is.gd/8Ltk)
- Micah
I reshared to the Translation room to help boost your international participation.
- Shannon Jiménez
nah, friendfeed isn't a niche play. it's got dozens of users! ;)
- Jeremy Toeman
Alrighty then, I just sent Eli a tweet (http://friendfeed.com/e... ) with a plea. I hope I'm not taken for a crazy. Hmm, I know that could be my first reaction.
- Micah
@Robert: caught up with an old buddy over a cigar, bottle of wine, and a few glasses of quality bourbon. and i have to be up at 6. so i'm having fun. ;) sorry we didn't get to catch up more at the 12seconds/uservoice party!
- Jeremy Toeman
WTF!!! Nobody from India... ??? Am I the only one..:)
- Devakishor
Well I was late to this party. Great idea Mark. I have all of New Zealand to myself!
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Turkey is on it must be. Anyhow, and Anyway, they'll be more Balloons One Day All Around Our World, BTW Thats a Great Daft Punk Track ain't it ;-D, Shall We Play it, and what Room shall we doeth Such? It Big enough for All. That is All. Time For Work Now, See You Laters, FriendFeed and Have A Nice But Try Not To Be too naughty Day. :))
- Jason
Why is Erhan Erdogan in the middle of the atlantic ocean on the map? Is he in the Bermuda Triangle or something? lol
- Alan Le
@Micah, great job on recruitment. Eli has added himself and we now have all 7 continents filled.
- Mark Krynsky
Erhan probably got moved accidentally. When I got to the page, and was moving the map, I accidently grabbed someone and moved them to the middle of the Atlantic. Thankfully, it was someone who used a special icon, so it was easy to search and put them back.
- Anika
Hmm, apparently I'm just up the road from Haggis.
- Rob H.
I just added myself. Curious - how do you get different placemarks? I like the Google-looking ones that aren't quite raindrops.
- Tamar Weinberg
Just an addendum to Spidra's explanation: To go back and edit, click the pushpin then click the "Edit" button (look waaay to the left on the page). Then you can click the icon to change, and you'll see Save button next to "Edit"
- Micah
Oh cool. Nice job reviving this guys. Hopefully we get another good round of users to add themselves.
- Mark Krynsky
Kind of frustrating to see how much time I spent on this map and then to find out someone had probably saved their changes over mine - hence mine was gone this entire time. Others should also check for this. In any event, thanks, Spidra, for the tip :) My other pet peeve is Google Maps scrolling incessantly out of nowhere. (Hi Jess.)
- Tamar Weinberg
Added myself yesterday. I notice, thought, that you have to flip to page 2 ... Can't we show all the FFers on one map, regardless of the page ?
- Ahsan Ali
Hysterical. See, that kind of thing wouldn't really work with Ice-T. Although his persona has changed a bit and his career has changed drastically over the years, his appearance is still almost as hard as it was 20 years ago.
- Curdy G
In all seriousness, though...does this transition that Cube has done lessen his credibility or his legacy?
- JA Castillo
He's been cuddly Ice Cube to me since I worked at Starbucks in college and he, his pregnant wife and his very sweet and friendly posse of one came in and I served them cappuccinos and madelines. He did however scowl just a tiny bit and let Posse make small talk for him - to maintain the street cred, you know. ;-)
- Maria Niles
@Momo - haha...yeah, well that would ruin anyone's cred!
- JA Castillo
Does he even rap anymore? I haven't heard anything from him in years, at least since he decided to turn full-time actor...
- Dennis Jernberg
Matt (who works for Google of course) follows Robert's comments that we should be using Buzz. Of course, this is something I've been pretty consistent about. Of course you should be using Buzz.
- Louis Gray
Maybe if he unblocks me on FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
Why would Matt have blocked you? And further, why would you make that a condition of using another service that he doesn't control?
- Louis Gray
Why would I consider his request if he has me blocked? I have no clue why he would block me, personally. It may be he isn't blocking me, but just has a private feed (I can't tell, but I can't seem to request a subscription - it gives me "Access Denied" every time I try) - I don't understand that, either, but his choice.
- Jesse Stay
I've been using Buzz for three years, every since Yahoo! introduced it.
- I like big Botts
"Buzz fits nicely between tweeting and blogging. Twitter is perfect when you want to share a link or a single crystalized idea. But Twitter isn’t as strong for group discussion or expressing medium- to long-form ideas. At the same time, blogging is great when you want a permalinked url that will stand the test of time, but it can be a real pain to write a blog post. I always feel like I...
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- Spidra Webster
Amen, Spidra, and I'd argue the FriendFeed team is even more accessible (especially considering one of them is the CTO of Facebook now).
- Jesse Stay
Sigh. *lalalalala* Buzz.... ok. I'm there. Again. If only there were an easy way to unblock the hundred or so early adopters I choose to block in my immature attempt to scoff at Buzz in the early days. Not sure why I perceived it as a threat and/or alternative to FF. Now I know better. Too bad they make it VERY difficult to manage your graph.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Spidra, all that is true about FriendFeed, which is why Buzz made sense to me right away - FriendFeed in a new place by a team that's investing in it. I am not getting political in site vs site turf wars. You know I engage here a lot still, probably more than Buzz, but I will go where it makes sense.
- Louis Gray
I understand the uncertainty of FriendFeed's future and lack of timely bug fixes is a problem for folks but it annoys the hell out of me when some people write up Buzz as if it were the first to do this. Unless they've made a heckuva lot of UI changes from when it launched, it really doesn't work as well as FriendFeed. It has some really annoying habits, too.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, you know I won't do that. There are a lot of people whose tones on sites give you whiplash. Not me.
- Louis Gray
In lieu of wading into the FF/Buzz debate again I'm going to now eat a small but potent bag a chips.
- Micah
Chieze, you see, all Top Kill needed to work was more Doritos.
- Micah
I would love to give Buzz a try but they still don't support my Google Apps account. I have yet to give it even a first look!
- Skyler Call
from fftogo
I'm there already, sort of, I like it to the extent it's like FriendFeed and don't like it to the extent it's not, yet. When they get there so will I.
- JSLeFanu
I get zero engagement on Buzz. Much more here on FF. And many more spammy followers. [I mean more spammy followers on Buzz. #ClarityFAIL]
- The original Kevin
Sorry, honest question! Without lists I'm not ready to try it again.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
I use Buzz as much as I use FriendFeed now but I tried to say how good FriendFeed still is and Robert and others just dismissed me, saying FriendFeed is dead. It's clearly not else I wouldn't be reading and writing here. But Buzz is great service just lacks the great features that FriendFeed has (which I'm sure it will gain). Also, the community needs to grow and the topics of posts need more variety. Need more FriendFeeders over there. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Brian, you could do what I did to get rid of everyone (well not on purpose) and delete your Google Contacts. If you do that you unfollow everyone on GReader and GBuzz. I did so while clearing up Google Contacts (not know what what would happen to Reader and Buzz). Thankfully I decided to re-follow only a handful of people and it makes Buzz a far better experience.
- Kol Tregaskes
Stephen, I wish it did, that and groups and better filters.
- Kol Tregaskes
A friend of mine asked me about Google Buzz the other day and I directed her to FriendFeed. I won't be going back until it gets better features. But I will be redirecting everyone here. It's so much better.
- Araceli
Mmmm... fry some of that up in a skillet and I'm THERE!
- iTad
ewwww!!! nasty !!!!! Damn the economy really has gone to hell in a handbasket hasn't it?! yikes!
- Susan Beebe
Being slightly alergic to Pork, there is so much wrong with that picture
- Jesse Stay
Susan, I would argue your statement would be true if I showed you a price tag and an empty rack. But the Spam was still there... and Mona, you're SO in denial. :-)
- Louis Gray
How much does that reconstituted junk cost?
- Susan Beebe
I can't help but think "Junk E-Mail In A Can" ;)
- Tyson Key
I've never eaten that one, but I do sometimes eat the lower sodium spam in sandwich with cucumber or tomato - and I so don't eat junk or fast food, but spam at least has taste, which is more than you can say for the meat in a McD etc.
- Ian May
Spam and scrambled egg musubi = yum! I think having that substituting regular spam would probably broke da mout to levels unknown before. Must find.
- Arlan K.
This has come up so many times. But Friendfeed has been resisting it for some reason.
- The Fat Oracle
I wouldn't vote for that change... Maybe an addition. I like to like.
- iTad
tad but how would you differentiate btw the 2? im suggesting share because many times i don't want to say i like something to share it with others - in fact i may very well hate it but to get you to see it i have to say like - it was "cutesy" when friendfeed launched but time for them to change it.
- Allen Stern
Matthew - are you saying you like like you that you like the like to which you have shown that you like?
- Allen Stern
Like the idea of having a share link too... one that you could use to share across all filtered list... like when you subscribe... thats would be a neat idea... you could even have it so you choose the list you want to share it with ;o) keep the like..as is, as its on each list seperate. :o) blimey...who am I to give opinions...lol.. been here a week.. but thought it was worth saying... tell me to shut if not lol. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
rob you may talk as much as you like - just look at scoble, he invades every thread and they haven't kicked him off yet!
- Allen Stern
In some ways when you press like you are sharing because you bubbling up the post, on the other hand when you have liked you can reshare the entry so indirectly you are also liking it but putting it a place i.e a room where others could share and hopefully enjoy/find of relevant interest in the future.
- Jason
Allen..scoble is like that everywhere tho... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think we need: Like, Share, Dislike, Run away from, Laugh, Smile, Cry, Get Angry, etc. And it shows up as "Chacha102 ran away from this." "Chacha102 got angry from this." "Chacha102 smiled from this." etc
- Tyler (Chacha)
"In the English language, the word like has a very flexible range of uses. It can be used as a noun, verb, adverb, adjective, preposition, particle, conjunction, hedge, interjection, and quotative"... it'll do :)
- Johnny
and add a "dislike" or something. Sometimes people post stuff I think is important, but I don't "like" the content (e.g. Mumbai attack, etc)
- Dave Hodson
Gotta be careful of overkill tho eh... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
i think adding share and some other options to click would be a nice addition
- (jeff)isageek
I already said it here: http://friendfeed.com/e... but basically, make an additional option of "Flag". All "Likes" would be "Flags", but not all "Flags" would be "Likes".”
- Micah
Any change in the options would change the UI I'm used to, but I guess they could put stuff under More.
- Rah-PM 2012
I've thought a fair bit about the terms of "like" vs "share". There are pros and cons of each. However, when there is some bad news of some sort its very hard to click "like" when you really just want to share it because it's important... as Dave Hodson said.
- Jesse Spaulding
I wish when I "shared" in Google Reader it "liked" the original article in FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
I prefer "bump" and "mark", personally... for stuff I wanna pull back to the top for whatever reason, and then totally separate bookmarking, either public or private.
- abacab
I like Like. When I Like something it's not always to share, it's so it shows up in my LIkes/ Comments page so I can read it later. Leave it alone!
- Nicola Quinn
I want more than just like. Just a few more, like 'i sympathize' or 'interesting' or 'user defined.' Like lists, i want to put FF entries into lists instead of users. Yeah you could reshare into private rooms but then you lose conversation and possibly more related links. I'd pay $20 a year for that and an app like Thunderbird with tons of filter abilities.
- sergiooo
I'm happy that its' called 'Like,' I'm "liking" the article not "sharing" the article, the original OP is sharing it. If you want to share it then there is a 'resahre' option for this. I don't agree with having dislike added, let's try and be positive with things instead of adding negatively to a great community here. You would only get people question why you dislike it and cause arguments, I'm not here for this.
- Kol Tregaskes
Besides if you dislike something, then 'hide' it.
- Kol Tregaskes
Here it is, my LOLcat with bacon in its mouth frolicking amongst rainbows whilst farting glitter (see here for inspiration http://friendfeed.com/isthiss...). #Echo
That's going to pop up randomly in someone's Google Image search for "cat" someday, and leave them completely dumbfounded. Which makes it awesome.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
And then, with luck, they will share it, and all this will begin again.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Kamilah, just the thought of that made me almost snarf my icecream!!!
- FFing Enigma
*bump* Gotta bring the cat back in honor of all the "OMGFFIZDED" posts =)
- FFing Enigma