Robert Chute › Likes

Great post Jennifer! - Kyle Lacy

Great post. Dislike adds a whole new dimension to aggregation that I'm not sure is warranted. People get bitter if you say or do something negatively towards them. - Mark Trapp

That is a great post. I think you'll see positive results the more you interact :) Check out our first episode of YourStrands for an explanation (at the end) http://community.strands.com/2008... - drew olanoff

Having thoughts about Dislike for weeks now... i think that by not liking someone's content for very long or forever is pretty much the same as disliking. The Like option seems to reflect someone's taste just fine, i love the positive approach, it's actually refreshing. More filtering options would be great here but Hide + Unsbscribe are quite efficient too :-) I don't consider this... more... - Majento

Majento, I'm pretty much in the same place as well. I don't like writing negative reviews, so when I cover something, you can know I like it or see serious potential. Why waste people's time complaining about something I don't want them to use? So you can assume if I don't mention it, that's a thumbs down or I don't know about it. :-) - Louis Gray

I would like to try Strands sometime myself. Interesting perspective on dislike. I will try it out and offer my opinion. - Phillip Jeffrey

Phillip, you have been invited to your Gmail. - Louis Gray

Majento, Louis, for some reason hitting the "dislike" button just felt really wrong to me, and that's where the idea for the post came from - a new social decision that I had never confronted before. I do think it will be interesting to see if more sites start offering ways to filter content with attributes that have negative connotations. - Jennifer Van Grove

Jenn, that's pretty much the same as Digg's "Bury", there are already lots of Bookmarking/News sites that are based on -/+. I wouldn't say dislike/bury equals doing wrong, or being negative in any way. It's just a different atmosphere, far more competitive, and sometimes creates room for intrigue & vengeance as you mentioned. - Majento

The Ballhype and Showhype sites have long had a thumbs up and thumbs down features as well. And I believe NoiseRiver (a FriendFeed UI app) has a "Hate" feature vs. "Like". A bit strong for me. - Louis Gray

I completely agree with "it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it." That's the whole issue I was having. A thumbs down icon is just that - iconic. I know what it means and what to do with it, but adding the word "dislike" to describe the action does add a new layer of context that some users, like myself, will consider before disliking any content. Plus, as you point it, it's all public! (comment via Disqus by Jennifer Van Grove) - Jennifer Van Grove

Ooops, I just noticed that Drew beat me to it.... (comment via Disqus by jherskowitz) - Jennifer Van Grove

Because of the rec aspect of the site the thumbs up/down is necessary, but I think it needs to be tweaked. The thumbs concept can be perceived in many ways and it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it. Even just using words instead of an icon, as in "show me more stuff like this" & "I don't want to see things like this. Strands needs to help us use their rev technology to Its... more... - Jennifer Van Grove

Maybe I'm just full of positivity. :-) (comment via Disqus by Louis Gray) - Jennifer Van Grove

2 Comments: 1) Louis Gray is always full of positivity. 2) I love the new features of Strands but I have a hard time with the UI. I feel like it is a little "over-done" (comment via Disqus by kylelacy) - Jennifer Van Grove

Kyle give us a few weeks, we'll be rolling out some UI enhancements. Will definitely want to know what you think! (comment via Disqus by drewolanoff) - Jennifer Van Grove

Good discussion to have. I wonder if getting the most Dislikes may become some sort of badge of honour among a subset of trolls out there. Depends on query ability and how usage/culture of the community evolves. (comment via Disqus by micahwittman) - Jennifer Van Grove

Check out our explanation here: http://community.strands.com/2008... :) (comment via Disqus by drewolanoff) - Jennifer Van Grove

Our intention is that "dislike" is assigned to the *content* and not the context (or poster). So, if I post a song and say "I love this song" and you don't like it, feel free to "thumbs down". By doing so you aren't telling me that you don't like *me*, just that you don't like the song. Also, this will help inform our recommendation engine that you aren't a fan of that content and allow... more... - Jennifer Van Grove

Thumbs up/Thumbs down merely affects what types of content are recommended to you...so if you are using it in another way, you're not going to get the best out of Strands! (comment via Disqus by drewolanoff) - Jennifer Van Grove

Of course most people will use the dislike feature for that purpose, but I do think, in the case of social networks, that perception and interpretation are everything. So although the intentions could be harmless, the perception of the dislike itself could be something different entirely. (comment via Disqus by Jennifer Van Grove) - Jennifer Van Grove

When you thumbs up or thumbs down, you're simply helping us learn more about your tastes. It's saying that the content wasn't really relevant to you. It's definitely not a slight on someone!!! (comment via Disqus by drewolanoff) - Jennifer Van Grove

Do you believe that Dave Winer is taking credit for Loren calling an end to this? On his latest blog post Dave says, "Well it worked." Dave also says, "...people need to be a lot more careful with each others' reputations, if we ever want to get anywhere." This is coming from a guy who declared war (no kidding) on the President of the United States. http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Rob Safuto

poor Shel, UPS is hiring... - Tim Moore

Winer is insane. Time to focus on him a bit see what his story is. File officially opened. - loren feldman

@Rob And he got it wrong. I don't recall that Shel Puppet has any plans to retire if he has his way. - Donna Mugavero

You did the right thing, Loren. Good luck moving forward. - Oldengrey (Jay)

I was really looking forward to an @garyvee puppet. Is that in the works? - J T. Ramsay

is Loren being a mensch here? Or is this just another piece of schtick? There was nothing at all menschy in the tone of the “open letter.” Loren has very high order comedic chops, a great sense of strategy, a deep understanding of the level of the room, and how to translate a carnie's ballyhoo for the net by pressing hot buttons of social media. But menschy? Not a bit. A funny schoolyard bully is no less mean than a physically abusive bully. We all incurred a karmic debt in supporting Loren’s cruelty. - Michael Markman

I'm selling my karma at a discount on the subprime market - William, CPU Media

Not menschy. Self interest. - Oldengrey (Jay)

If more people would settle their differences by creating puppet parodies then the world would be a much better place. - Rob Safuto

Hoping you use the puppets in the next space race and maybe they can help Jimmy Carter broker peace in the middle east... - Mark Forman

Still waiting to hear what Ethan has to say on all this-he's been a bastion of calm and serenity during the storm... - Mark Forman

@michael Markman - you had me up until Karmic Debt. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Can I put my 'karmic debt' on an Amex card? If I'm going to rack some up then I would at least like to get a few rewards points. - Rob Safuto

who is this loren guy again, and why do I care if he gives shel a domain? ;) - Todd Jordan

Rob- you may not need it. I happen to think if there's a group dynamic among those who consider Loren a mensch, then it's more that we've earned karmic credit for using our brains. Good thing, too- I can't handle any more karmic debt after that whole incident at the convent with the wok and the trapeze. - Donna Mugavero