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Want to know where Jason gets his inspiration http://www.youtube.com/watch... newest Grati-tube
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Heart almost stopped! I mean can you believe that man? That face, that body... I love Eric in this video ;)
- EmmaSive
absolutely awesome video, I am loving the humour in these!
- Matthew Humphrey
Talk about Facebook buying FriendFeed here (on FriendFeed, of course):
HealingBrush, Chris Martin, lolise and 164 other people liked this
I'm not sure what it means, but I hope the goodness of Friendfeed stays intact.
- Tom Landini
I guess Facebook just got real time search engine!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What do facebook get out of it?
- Ruchit Garg
Fact or fiction?
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
I haven't seen likes and comments stream real-time this fast before.
- ydfeed
It depends on who lays claim to our posted and aggregated material.
- jcunwired
it could work. if Friendfeed completely replaces Facebook
- Edgar Rodríguez
I think it's a brilliant move, although bringing this into the Facebook walled garden would ruin it.
- Derek Shanahan
how much for?
- Ruchit Garg
Is it true Robert?
- Kevin Whalen
BAD 'n SAD :((
- sid 【ツ】
Great match to take on the Twitter machine.
- Ryan Cummins
what is next..facebook killing twitter integration...SCORE....??
- Denis
++Edgar
- Ryan
Presumably a technology acquisition then, Facebook is buying the team and the tech.
- DGentry
Good for Facebook, BAD for us. NOOOOOOOOOOOO
- Nir Ben Yona
I don't like it
- Jason Hargrove
Bad news, if true.
- LogEx
Just because Facebook bought Friendfeed, doesn't necessarily mean they will do anything with the service. At least maybe not right away. People need to chill out.
- Alex Knight
hope it doesn't mess w/ twitter integration
- Ken Seto
makes a lot of sense - f.b. now has a power house of real-time all-stars. fixes many of the feature 'wish' lists for f.b. - actually a major positive sign for innovation. congrats to the F.F. team.
- michael sean wright
How can i shut down my ff account?
- Fotis Alexandrou
I need a few hours and possibly large amounts of chocolate
- Bwana ☠
If you are right, that "Facebook just got real time search engine", that is good - as FB really, really needed it for a long time.
- Bora Zivkovic
:(
- Sinem Co
yes, this is fast. Reminds me of a few hours ago when I was on Freenode
- Ian Tindale
There goes your data.
- Jason Hargrove
This will probably be bad. like all purchases, it will be an "afterthought" and never be fully allowed to develop and flourish.
- Ryan Jones
Man this is really SUCKS!! :((( we all know Facebook strategies on the web :(( Whey will drive FriendFeed to the helll and I'm pretty sure of this :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( BAD SUCKS SAD :(((
- FFTornado
Funny thing is, if you posted about this on Facebook, 99.9999% of it's users would go "huh, what's FriendFeed anyway?"
- Richard Matthias
It almost seemed inevitable since Facebook has been copying so much of Friendfeed in recent months. It's good for the founders of FF and may benefit those of us who use both on a regular basis. Maybe they'll just leave FF alone?
- Kenley Neufeld
someone tell me what they will do with it? Nothing maybe? Kill it, maybe?
- Francine Hardaway
Wonder how they'll integrate, separate services with more interaction or FF swallowed by Facebook.
- Steven Cains
Buy as is use it's IP and close it down or run as separate business? Either way, didn't see that coming.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
It was bound to go down. Like we used to say on the block shootin' dice "Big Bank Take Little Bank"
- professor daddyo
I do, however, wish tha tmore sites would implement this commenting engine.
- Ryan Jones
Fotis: haha, wait too long, and you'll never be able to close your FF account ;)
- Jason Hargrove
not believing it until another source confirms...
- Benton
Congrats to the friendfeed team. Worried about the future though.
- Andy Roth
Whats FriendFeed anyways?
- Marco Horta
so that Facebook can maybe copyright the "Like" button? lol
- Than R
How are we going to abbreviate it now? FBFF? FFFB? F^3B ?
- Harry Wolff
I receive the breaking news via BNO News at this moment: Facebook acquires FriedFeed...
- Torsten Eckert
haha you're right Richard
- Ken Seto
Wow
- Rodfather
I am stuck in Texas and have not confirmed myself.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
OMG.
- Nathan Chase
maybe they can implement threads?
- Jeremy Toeman
It looks like a defensive move. I think it's better fro FB to acquire FF than incorporating twitter functionalities in their status feature.
- Pablo Paniagua
double wow.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Friendbook? Facefeed?
- Jeff Harbert
If it's true, I suspect FriendFeed as we know it will be gone, but Facebook will be greatly improved.
- Costa Walcott
bah. i will go do something else. this news isn't helping
- Edgar Rodríguez
trying to look on the bright side - maybe we'll get those iPhone/Blackberry apps for better access to FriendFeed
- Stuart Miniman
But if it isn't true we would have heard by now.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
apprehensive about this
- Liz Polay-Wettengel
Official: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Brandon Titus
I want to hear the $$$ number
- moo yu
Congrats to ff team...but how does this work? I have 2 different accounts...and I like it that way...I don't want to share/spam my friends on facebook with what I have here...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@robert no we wouldnt have
- Jeremy Toeman
It's official: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Costa Walcott
Originally posted this to your other FF/FB post before you astarted this one: I don't see the point of Facebook acquiring FriendFeed. They are pretty much identical services (well, FF represents just the News Feed portion of Facebook) I don't see how they can incorporate FriendFeed into Facebook. If they really did buy it, then I see this as them going for programming talent more so...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
From FF blog http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Tom Landini
I'm hoping this improves Facebook (just like everyone else). Facebook has gotten horrible stale for me of late.
- Harry Wolff
This stream itself is the evidence of WHY Facebook bought FF.
- Steven Walling
What's looking shiny and new now? :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I've been needing a reason to get re-interested in Facebook, this could be it.
- JonInteractive
Friend management will need to be enhanced/overhauled. Otherwise, the noise will make the combined product unusable.
- Peter Ghosh
No! I am going to cry! I HATE FACEBOOK! I have a Facebook account, but FriendFeed is way better. Life is over! Apocalypse.
- Zachary TG
Seriously, how can i shut it down?
- Fotis Alexandrou
We'll have to wait for more details to see exactly what Facebook is planning to do with FF.
- 321
Bodes badly for FriendFeed. --rj
- Roger Jennings
I think this is more of a "send the friendfeed traffic to facebook" than any kind of technical leverage. My biggest concern here: in order to exchange dialogue with people on facebook I need to be friends with them vs. being able to do it on friendfeed without having to friend them up. I find this valuable as there may be a topic or 5 that I want to engage with user "X" on, but I don't...
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- Erik Boles
I am disappointed by this news... I don't like Facebook at all... And I'm afraid they will just kill FriendFeed with their awful cluttered interface...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
It depends on how they integrate it. Did they buy it for the search engine, or did they buy it as a potential for extending the reach of Facebook into real time conversations? It's all about the life stream now right? So probably Facebook's attempt to stake a claim there.
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
bad days are coming
- Ahmet Soyata
Fotis, why do you want to shut down our FF account?
- Alex Knight
This is bad news for Yahoo 360°. Oh wait, too late.
- Ian Tindale
Bad bad bad bad bad bad ::runs screaming down the hall::
- mary
Crap!
- Zachary TG
This is disgusting.
- Zachary TG
First of all, I love the name "Facefeed." ROFL Second, this is business boys. Happens all the time. Why do you think innovation keeps happening. FB will integrate or kill off FF, and something else will happen. It's a natural cycle.
- Francine Hardaway
For a second I thought it was a joke, but then I checked Friendfeed's Blog. http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009... Damn it.
- Alejandro
Nir Ben Yona +1
- Muge Cerman
Turmoil
- Ian Tindale
wondering if i should continue aggregating all my online activity in frienfeed now that facebook owns it!!
- Gtp19
I can't begin to process this right now. Too much work to focus on. Later when I read this 10,000 mile long thread and have a glass of Cab in hand.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Geeks and fb not a good mach
- thomas elton
from iPhone
We fear change
- Ian Tindale
Not feeling real good about this, hope fully Facebook will do right by the FF community, but I'm not holding my breath. Glad for the FF team though
- Kim Landwehr
Twitter dissed again.
- JonInteractive
if you look closely at FF the large majority of FF posts are twitter posts, so there was not that much original content on FF in the first place...
- Ingmar
So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter..
- Nick Halstead
Makes a lot of sense for Facebook. And we find this very healthy ^^
- twitscoop
People need to stop freaking out. The Facebook/Friendfeed buy out was just announced. Wait for details people.
- Alex Knight
It could be bad, it could be good. As long as Facebook doesn't try to port their functionality over, I'm fine with it being a financial acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
Crap, its official !
- Peter Dawson
This is really bad... a wonderful tool based on killer technology will go over into this mass market teeny poking culture. Bah!
- Markus Tressl
then again it is great for linking FB, TW, flickr and so on
- Ingmar
Here is the FF post on the acquisition: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Mrinal Desai
Great, why did I bother creating an account here? I could have held out.
- desinole
if this is true, for the love of god, please don't Facebook go and mess up FriendFeed as they have their own system, Facebook is a mess these days, Friendfeed is one of the 2.0 sites that actually has concentrated on doing a few things well, complete opposite to Facebook.
- Carl Grint
I suppose Friendfeed was considerably lacking in LOLcats.
- Ian Tindale
Cuz we all know that facebook doesn't respect user's privacy and you've got basically everything on ff, youtube, twitter, digg whatever you do
- Fotis Alexandrou
Paul Buckheit will now be a house husband:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Confirmed by FF http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- David Peacock
Smart for Facebook but I prefer Friendfeed the way it is.What, we'll be throwing rabbits next?
- Janet Fouts
FriendFeed listens to the community. Facebook doesn't. Not to mention they're ENTIRELY different communities.
- Adam Reyher
If they keep FriendFeed as a separate site, and still upgrade regularly, this is fine. If FriendFeed winds up in the dead pool, then it sucks.
- Steve Sill
If true, congrats to the FF Founders!
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
Maybe I should rediscover my Orkut account.
- Ian Tindale
I was just thinking how Friendfeed had stayed out of recent takeovers, mergers and hence cyber attacks. Will Friendfeed now be taken over by celebs and spammers too?
- Nils Geylen
Not sure why this news makes me nervous. Please tell me it's going to be ok Scoble...
- Lucas
FF has been FB's incubator for awhile.
- Peter Warnock
it's true damn!!!!
- Edgar Rodríguez
How can I spam on this thread please ? Any idea ?
- Toucouleur
Facebook has ZERO respect for users' wishes... Friendfeed is incompatible with that. Friendfeed will be going away. :( Their blog post says as much: "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally **for the time being**. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product"
- tollie williams
Quickest/Biggest thread ever
- Ian Tindale
Ideally, FB will leave FF to do the sweet innovating they are doing and just take the awesome features and put them into FB
- Ryan
This is the first time I've used Friendfeed in a year. Good move on their part.
- chantelle
How Much ? $$$ ;-)
- Jacopo Gio
I'm heading back to Jaiku where it's nice and quiet
- Ian Tindale
So, where do we migrate to now?
- Byron McCollum
FriendFeed functionality on Facebook would be nice. The reverse, not so much. They're trying to address two entirely separate purposes and as such, need to remain completely separate.
- Adam Reyher
back to the twitter
- emresezgin
I want numbers. how much did facebook pay?
- Zac Bowling
soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- johnny2009
Hum...let's see what happens.
- Chip Hanna
Stay here until FB does something dumb with FF
- Ryan
The rhetoric seems a bit too "Facebook will do what they want with us" and not "we will remain FF and continue forward". Seems as if FB went for the tech and we could lose FF as a seperate entity. Boo.
- Derek Shanahan
confirmed by facebook press release.
- Zac Bowling
Love 'em or hate 'em....Facebook made a phenomenal purchase.
- Kevin Pruett
I see a ton of Wall Spam. Facebook users just don't get it when you port your twitter updates over. There is too much for them to wrap their heads around. This will be a hard transition.
- Ryan Cummins
And I was REALLY getting fond of FriendFeed. From now on only downhill applicationwise?
- Bart
Not happy about this. I use Facebook, but don't like it. It reminds me of AOL from 10 years ago.
- David Sharpe
I agree that I don't want FB to mess up FF, but this will also give FF a higher profile and bring in many more users...which we may or may not like, judging by what happened on Twitter. I hope FF doesn't die off like Jaiku because I really think FF offers a more valuable and useful interface.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
One thing to consider is this: If we have "trusted" the FriendFeed people not to screw things up, hopefully we can trust them to make sure they're still in control in the terms of the acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
What's it going to be called? Failbook?
- Ian Tindale
Its going to be called Facebook.
- DGentry
I hope this is a joke.. Damn it, I dont like Facebook now there is nowhere to go... F***
- Jacque
I am trying to imagine how this will be a good thing for existing FF users. It feels so right and so wrong all at once!...Maybe at least my kids and wife will finally get what I've been ignoring them for over the past year.
- Thom Kennon
FeedFace
- Ian Tindale
Is that means we're going to see more extremist groups around, now that FB has acquired FF?
- Nir Ben Yona
so where do all the cool kids go now? we need another startup, stat!
- h1ro
I am afraid... what johnny2009 have said can really be the future... soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- Ahmed Mubbashir Khan
Damn,I've just"got friendfeed,and i love it.I definately don't like facebook.What does it mean for twitter?
- Paul Downing
Any investors want to predict the buyout price?
- Kevin Pruett
am gonna wait for google wave... coz in facebook, i cant access the complete stream for a month ago, the site goes down very often while browsing, and privacy issues galore!! congratulations for friendfeed but its jus me!!!
- Gtp19
Maybe we´re seeing here one of FriendFeeds biggest discusions ever. I´m sceptic about the future of FF as a standlone service...
- Torsten Eckert
What concerns me most is what happens to my friends here (and that I have to interact with my friends THERE). Will we have to be friends to interact in the same way we have the last couple of years?
- jcunwired
This is very good for FriendFeed as long as Facebook doesn't corrupt them. I would have preferred to see Google buy FF but I know with their focus on Wave I don't think it would have been a good fit. I like the Facebook platform, but they have done too many shady things in the past for me to trust them.
- Adam Teece
all of the conversation is happening on FriendFeed and Twitter - nothing on Facebook. Think we'd scare away Facebook if everyone starts having lots of conversations there - like on Scoble's fan page?
- Stuart Miniman
They can or don't have to fix FF's FB app now.
- ydfeed
Is Twitter going to buy Myspace?
- marcus bösch
Ha Stuart - great point *Facebookers take cover*
- Kimberle Kelly
That does it. I'm going back to usenet.
- Ian Tindale
What's next- Macy's buying Gimble's?
- Thom Kennon
Apple buys China
- Ian Tindale
what do you think Robert?
- courtney benson
All I can think of is now a lot of people can feel the pain the dedicated Pownce community felt, but at least you're not getting shut down, just yet.
- Mike Lewis
I'm not a big facebook user, but my gut feeling is that like twitter buying summize, it will mark the end of major innovations. I hope I'm wrong. But they should totally go with the facefeed mashup name.
- motownmutt
I dont see any potential for competition with twitter FB and Twitter serve different purposes as does FriendFeed
- iluvblackwomen
Sorry but renaming Facebook to 'Facefeed' is utterly stupid.
- Alex Knight
It'll be called ScobleFeed
- Ian Tindale
does making google reader more social has anything to do with this buyout??!
- Gtp19
yeah this was good for facebook. bad for anyone who liked friendfeed.
- Liz
FriendFeed is very good, a better way to use Twitter & etc. Knowing this, I still rarely use FF. Not going to start using Facebook more.
- Nicole
Actually, this could be death for Twitter when you think about it. The people I know who are in FB are not likely to add TWO more nets to their lifestream. FriendFeed makes more sense for them. Maybe Twitter just stays as the dumb pipe it's become for many of us here.
- Thom Kennon
Echoing what others have said - My guess: Facebook will get better, Friendfeed will get worse, Twitter will matter a lot less.
- Matthew Blaisdell
Good for FB UI and search, questionable for the FF community and its independent spirit ...
- Bo Stern
last comment 2 hours ago on FF by Paul Buchheit, FF CEO, was just " :)" http://friendfeed.com/paul #friendbook
- Jacopo Gio
The main reason why I came to FF was because when I tried to treat FB the same as FF, i was talking to a wall. At least people interact here. At FB, it's all about the cheesy games/apps.
- Matthew Horton
from iPhone
Just like most acquisitions, it could be good and it could be bad. I trust that FriendFeed will live on as FriendFeed, only sharing their tech with Facebook. Possibly more integration between the two sites. If you were FF/FB, what would you do?
- Nick Humphries
Twitter, Friendfeed and Facebook are three entirely different animals. Facebook eats Friendfeed and poops out little bits of content that once belonged to us. Twitter continues to thrive as the broadcast conversation-wannabe that it always was.
- jcunwired
Nick - think again. Its going to go away - read the tea leaves in this statement: "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" - Bret Taylor in this post https://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- jcunwired
Please no. I don't like FaceBook...
- Svartling
Facebook must want real time soc-net search badly...
- martin smith
The biggest thing here, at least within the Twitter context, is that this merger will combine 'verified' identity (in terms of Facebook user ID being slightly more 'real' than Twitter) with real time status updates.
- Dan Patterson
I'm looking forward to what this brings to Facebook. I have enjoyed both networks but wondered when FriendFeed/Facebook would face-off and/or be absorbed by the other. I think FriendFeed's tech will improve the Facebook experience.
- Jacob Sloan
FriendFeed + Twitter = disruptive. FriendFeed + Facebook = one more app for FB . Facebookers dont know the power of FriendFeed. I agree with : "" So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter.. - Nick Halstead ""
- Rocky
Most likely scenario is Facebook assimilates the FriendFeed guys, has them work on improving Facebook newsfeed/realtime/status, and lets FriendFeed die a slow unmaintained death.
- Richard Akerman
Well, my friends on FB doesn't give a damn about sharing links, news, pics, vids etc. So I'm not sure how I will use FB+FF now. I don't think FriendFeed will exist, just implemented in Facebook. The name FriendFeed will die. And: on FB you don't want the whole world to see everything you're doing, just your friends. And it will stay this way. So the question is: Who will build the new FriendFeed?
- Patrik Johansson
Do this mean, by the way, that we (the FriendFeed users) should start to connect with each other on FB? How will they like that? People who get's 2-3 maybe 4000 connections?
- Patrik Johansson
Robert, it means all the time you invested building friends lists and updates there will go to Facebook :-)
- Loic Le Meur
could someone start to develop a Frienfeed clon , please ? ASAP !
- Rocky
Seems bloody terrible from this users perspective. Good for Friendfeed the company though.
- Quasar
Given Facebook's past, this could be really bad. Given FriendFeed's past, this could be really good. No real way to speculate without talking to the FF crew.
- xero
+3273 Quasar! (one for each of my Likes, already on a death march)
- jcunwired
Robert, do you know if Facebook is going to put on limits here at FF??? Oh crikey... so much for our citizen journalism here.... Admittedly I am bummed. Uber bummed.
- Arleen Anderson
EndFeed.
- Alex Schleber
your blog is the most important thing you can own on the web. these sites can come and go. it's a great social point but true friends you've made here you talk outside of ff, right?
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
It's a good time to sell to Facebook, cause Google Wave is imminent and is going to destroy all of Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed. I think FriendFeed employees might even go back to Google eventually as soon as their contracts with Facebook are up.
- Charbax
Robert - wow. just wow I am stunned. Sorta sad actually. I love FF innovation and don't want to see that stop !!!!!
- Susan Beebe
(RE: Your tweet earlier) When you say the minor league team going to the majors, I don't always feel that this is a positive thing. As in this case, it's like Ferrari being acquired by Ford. I don't think I like this acquisition.
- Richard Merritt
the free ride couldn't last forever. I know it sucks that things will change, but they've got a lot more sense than Twitter has about these things..
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
You must all assimilate to the new FaceFeed
- Jonathan.Rivera
From what I'm gathering, this acquisition is more about FB acquiring the talented engineers of FF than it is about the FF software itself. A smart play by FB. Unfortunate for us that value FF. I personally feel that FB is just slowly becoming the new Myspace. Which I don't think I need to explain how lame that is.
- Richard Merritt
According to WSJ — FB paid $50 million — a mix of cash and stocks. http://bit.ly/SVTA5
- Richard Merritt
If you ignore all the crappy apps and just comment and post photos, your main feed on Facebook is fundamentally a pretty similar experience to FriendFeed - people post stuff, people comment on it. That is, at-least, the way my network tends to use Facebook. The main difference is that Facebook defaults to being very closed and private while FriendFeed defaults to being very open and...
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- Edward Coffey
edward - pretty much. it's FF for the layman. remember back in the day they used to have forums too?
- Terry O'Fee
friendfeed is very cliquey. you have your group of people who usually gather round for conversations. now imagine some of this friendfeed stuff in facebook. done right it will help them a lot.
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
I don't think I am liking this but FB does need to add the "edit" feature like on here.
- Marika Dye
FriendFeed is Facebooks Summize. It’s All About Search. http://bit.ly/11ZW6l
- paul mooney
Thinking Out Loud: Echo issues during a high profile tech show http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
FF acquisition is expected. But, as a user, I would be bumned, if FF would become a feature of FB. As, I tend to use Twitter as my social network and not FB.
- Vasu Srinivasan
It doesn't make much sense talking about 'Facefeed" and 'Friendbook'... Facebook simply bought a cool 12-people company called Friendfeed for its great search technology paying 15M plus some shares, which is really very cheap in this context, given the value of FF's technology (as it is perceived by us). They are also hiring the talented FF team, which makes the deal even more interesting for FB. Probably there are also some deeper hidden motives and implications that I am not able to get.
- Liviu Barbat
I would love it if Facebook integrated the FriendFeed features. I would love it if Facebook had FriendFeed's flexibility with Facebook's privacy control. It sucks that the world may lose FriendFeed, but it is great the Facebook will likely get better.
- Andrew
Andrew, Facebook will get better - over time. There won't be any Vulcan website meld of FB and FF overnight.
- Bill Sodeman
thank god someone understands that, andrew. it's like "i liked this band better before they went to a major label!" ;)
- Terry O'Fee
Bill - But we can dream, can't we? :) I mean, what I love about Facebook is that I'm interacting with my friends as my friends, not as usernames and avatars. But I hate their bookmarklet, the weird delays when I post anything, the comment system, and I hate the Photo gallery tech. I love the FriendFeed community, but would love bringing the FriendFeed technology over to Facebook even more. If only Facebook could buy Flickr next...
- Andrew
as long as fb start thinking in creative commons terms... one day ..
- Terry O'Fee
they are both great services I think will be a good thing
- Logan Lindquist
oh NO! I don't spend much time at FB (everybody there's too busy playing stupid games, at least in my little network), and besides it's more private unlike FF. And now they've gone and bought FF? And I just joined! I guess I won't be around here for long, since FF won't...
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't like it...
- Harry Mahardhika
No mention of Yahoo. Totally irrelevant these days. Sad.
- Scott Schnaars
This deal makes sense! Now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask!
- Garin Kilpatrick
One of my facebook accounts got closed up. Into this account I fed my friendfeed. And into friendfeed I fed for example my socialmedian shares, diggs, stumbles etc.
- Wilhelm Bauer
Time for the next generation app. *Taps foot impatiently for Google Wave*
- Karen Masullo
I don't think it's about getting Friendfeed it's self; but having the developers and the information about real-time search.
- Chris Martin
Behold! The mighty hippopoticorn shirt! http://www.flickr.com/photos... (Suck on that, wolf and keyboard cat shirts...)
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V + hippopoticorn shirt = Bad Ass!
- Fee501st
Oh. Wow. I thought the keyboard cat one was funny, this ones just amazing!
- Simon Wicks
Curse you! now my mighty wolf shirt is rendered obsolete!
- Ken Bauer
A meme is a meme is a meme.
- aldenoneil
The wolf shirt had it's time.
- Veronica
Now I need all three! Soon I'll have a complete #memedrobe
- Christopher Harley
The hatching of a crocodile - http://www.phenomenica.com/2009...
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- روح الله مهدوی
Jurassic Park much :)
- EricaRightNow
What a 140-char message looks like in RSS - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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One thing. Twitter's value isn't just in the messages, it is in the following/follower graphs. And all the metadata that sits outside the message.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But I like where this is going.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Very clever. So would the 140-char message itself BE the link? So the mp3 would be accessed by clicking the message rather than a seperate URL taking up some of the 140 chars?
- Mark
You've seen the Google Social Graph API though yeah? With XFN and FOAF it's easy to declare and determine relationships in a decentralized way. Right now it only works for public relationships though.
- Brett Slatkin
from email
Scoble, and the follower/following graph is the hard part - messaging + the format is nothing without a transport / platform that knows where to push those messages. And when like twitter you have users with 1+ million followers - that is a massive technical challenge that nobody has solved in a distributed fashion
- Nick Halstead
People with 1-million-plus followers are going to have a hefty Amazon EC2 bill. As they should. (Or they can use Twitter, if they can find a way to pay for everyone who uses it.)
- Dave Winer
that will go down well :)
- Mark
Scoble the follower graph would be OPML as it always has been.
- Dave Winer
Why is there a GIF screenshot of text on this page?
- Andy Bakun
I was thinking "What can I do that would really piss off Andy Bakun?" and this is what I came up with. Just curious -- did it work? :-)
- Dave Winer
Good way to show code
- Mark
Is anyone going to build a tool that I can export who I follow on Twitter as OPML?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Christian - Ironically enough, I did something similar the other day for a diff reason. Completely random, über-beta, but - http://twitteravatar.appspot.com/apps...
- Damon Cortesi
Why do you want an OPML for Twitter? Where do you want to import it?
- Dave Winer
I think OPML could be good for importing Twitter to Snackr (The latest test version can be synced with Google Reader using OPML) I like using it for the casual glance @ the ticker tape while I work. It's not as immediate (feed refresh is slow) but it would cut down the time suckage if I still wanted to keep a slightly less frenzied eye on twitter.
- BairdWilliamson
Really?! A spammer on FF?
- Paul Puri
what spammer? ;-)
- Chris Heath
Ooooooh.... Maaaagic!
- Paul Puri
The first thing I noticed was how the surrounding XML seemed larger than the message itself. :)
- Ray Cromwell
I wrote a quick and dirty OPML exporter for Twitter. I'll put a little polish on it in the morning and put it up as a web app.
- Dave Winer
I may/must have missed something vital, but there's one thing I don't get. Since the ensuing Twitter-length RSS-item, message + envelope, is well above 140 characters, and thus can not be displayed as-is as an SMS (which, among other things, once was one of Twitter's killer features), why continue with that artificial limit at all? It's not as if the Cloud, be it RssCloud.org's or other, will not support messages where the <description> part is more than that. So what's the justification here?
- ianf ⌘
Awesome TYVM Dave!
- BairdWilliamson
SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough, glad to see people thinking about metadata and enclosures. I wish all url shortening services would go away, terrible idea which unfortunately got popular despite all the downsides.
- Dave Evans
I barely use Twitter, but I always felt that the very audacity of building a SMS-length global instant messaging service was sheer genius. I understand the cellphone push never worked (or not for long) outside USA/ Canada and perhaps the UK. But the possibility of using SMS for input has a lot of merit whether Twitter streams are then delivered to cell phones, or not.
- ianf ⌘
@Dave Evans. what makes you say that ("SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough")? In contrast to that, here's what one "VC from NYC" has to say about it: "I believe that Twitter's native implementation of sms is an important part of its success. The 140 character limit was driven by the 160 character limit of sms and the initial design of the service put sms...
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- ianf ⌘
I wonder how many people and companies are changing their passwords and policies this morning because of #twittergate and http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... ? I know I am, I was doing a few of the stupid practices that caught Twitter.
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Does anyone have a good blog post for how to come up with strong password names and policies?
- Robert Scoble
taht's great, I am also willing to change my password.
- Madhav Tripathi
1Password on the Mac...
- Holger Eilhard
not for corp use but for personal use 1Password is perfect
- Mike Bracco
Holger: beat me to it :)
- Mike Bracco
Mike: Sometimes I'm faster. Rarely, but happens :-)
- Holger Eilhard
I will write a blog post about it.
- Madhav Tripathi
Robert on the network side of things there are programs that generate strong passwords. But you can develop a "feel" for it. I have to create them all the time. Just don't use "memory aids" they lead to social hacks
- Melanie Reed
You're okay if you don't use 3rd party apps to login to Twitter, right?
- Steven E. Streight
I like this one. http://www.pctools.com/guides...
- Logan Lindquist
Sorry, should have linked to the TechCrunch article about how the hacker broke into Twitter: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
Steven: this isn't about your Twitter account's security. It's about your security on the Web.
- Robert Scoble
Here's some password policies you might find interesting: http://www.nersc.gov/nusers... , http://www.comptechdoc.org/indepen... , http://www.sans.org/resourc...
- imabonehead
I have no need because my passwords have always been 12+ characters, include caps, random characters, and numbers. I'm sure most people that use FF are the same way. The engineers I work with bitch about my choice of passwords all the time.
- coldbrew
The sad reality is any password can be hacked. It's just a matter of time as in attrition. But you can make it harder for them with strong passwords
- Melanie Reed
Yeah, we've always tried to make sure our hosting customers understand how important it is create good passwords, but many still use bad passwords, hopefully all of this recent press will scare them into using better passwords. Most people don't care about their password until something bad happens to them. It's similar to people who ignore making backups and then find out the hard way.
- Scott Beale
I use Lastpass.com to generate and save passwords.
- mrshl
Just pick a couple good ones that you can use for different things. Practice typing them so you can remember the keystrokes easier. The more you use them the easier it will be to remember. Use keepass or FFox to keep track of them.
- Logan Lindquist
1Password hands down for ease of use and strong password creation on OSX and iPhone
- Jerry Schuman
I wrote this regarding Twitter, security & the cloud: Here's my thoughts http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009... #twittergate
- Jim Connolly
Melanie: it's the social hacks that will catch the most people. Not the strength of the passwords. Notice that he didn't need to guess the passwords, he just needed to use the ecosystem against itself.
- Robert Scoble
I agree 100% about 1Password, one of the best Mac apps out there: http://agilewebsolutions.com/product...
- Scott Beale
Roboform on Windows. Otherwise 1Password.
- Herb Hernandez
Very few. People and companies generally don't make policy changes until they're bitten themselves.
- Darren
Good point about social engineering, Scoble.
- coldbrew
I ended up writing this http://blog.siliconverse.com/2009...
- Ruchit Garg
Robert: yes. its the easiest hack to employ
- Melanie Reed
Or there's a business requirement . e.g. Customers inquire about policies based on what they've read in the news and impose requirements on their partners.
- Darren
If you need cross-platform then I'd look at http://www.keepassx.org
- Jerry Schuman
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- Mark
Unfortunately most companies don't change passwords until they have too, the IT department doesn't want to deal with the calls when someone can't remember there password.
- Kim Landwehr
my 14 character alphanumeric pass for my gmail account was hacked about 2mo ago. After fixing, Ive gone and changed all passes; & none of them are of the same ilk. my twitter account is the simplest; cause i care less if its hacked.
- clarke thomas
The best thing to happen to corporate security was the public insecurity of Microsoft software int the late part of the 90s and earlier in the decade.
- Darren
I use Roboform Password Manager to navigate and automatically login to websites using complex passwords: http://www.eenmanierom.nl/wachtwo... (Dutch post but Google Translate is nearby).
- Patrick Mackaaij
a lot, I hope.....
- Alex Griffiths
FTR, I use Keepass (hosted on sourceforge).
- coldbrew
I had to this week my XBL account was hacked.
- Dylan Richardson
I had to change everything and cancel 2 cards.
- Dylan Richardson
I use GRC to gen and never use anything less than 20 chars unless the site doesn't support that length. Sometimes I use the first 20 in a 64 bit key, sometimes I use the last 20, sometimes I pick the middle 20. Sometimes I use 21, 22, 23, 19 char length. I also lie on all reminder questions.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I use a hosted version of clipperz (http://clipperz.com/), totally random passwords, web accessible from anywhere and hosted on my own server.
- Justin Yost
same here, Justin. I use lastpass which generates random passwords, and has one master password, which is a very secure one.
- Tim Hoeck
A couple of months ago, my gmail was hacked. They then quickly went and changed my Itunes account over to another email and started buying iphone apps. In the about an hour and a half, that they had control over my email they spent almost $1000. Luckily they made the mistake of changing the name and language on my account. I don't use the email much anymore but g reader so I spotted it....
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- Rasmus Lauridsen
for years, private corporate systems have had security measures like password strength policies for a domain, password age policies, secure connection requirements, logon policies that deny multiple logons, locking out user accounts after multiple password failures, etc. etc. etc. this incident with Twitter is a huge wake-up call.
- Karim
What first caught my eye was this article was written by Nik Cubrilovic. I had wondered what had happened to him, and hoped everything was well with him.
- Lloyd Budd
Yeah, Nik was in the TechCrunch office when I was there the other day. I figured a big story was underway cause Arrington told me to stop wasting Nik's time and to go bug the interns. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Making an awesomely strong password wouldn't have prevented this attack. It was using the same awesomely strong password that made the attack possible. And who hasn't done that? There's just too many apps that require passwords out there.
- marziah
I typically use KeePass to generate as strong a password as I can. I try to keep passwords to a minimum of 20 characters and use letters, numbers and symbols...some sites allow this some do not. If there is a password character max I will use that max (within reason). The problem I have is with some of the accounts I want to be able to access from my Blackberry. Having a 50 character...
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- Sean Brady
I use RoboForm to create all my passwords. I have them backed up and honestly couldn't type one out if I tried, they all are 14-16 chars long
- George Handlin
+1 George. A good pw generator like RoboForm or 1password can save you a lot of grief later on.
- Bill Sodeman
interesting experiment, make accounts at free websites and have really awful passwords and see how long it takes to get hacked!
- Mark
I agree with Sean Brady, makes it tough entering on the blackberry. Especially how sometimes it will cap the first character and when it's masked, makes it even tougher. Wish there was something I could host on my own server that would work with all my machines (Win/Mac) and my phones. I don't like the idea of storing on some hosted service. Thinking of trying RoboForms hosted service since they are trusted and I've gained personal trust for the application.
- George Handlin
It makes me anxious not knowing my password is for a particular site... so I've always been wary of things like 1password or roboform. I also need something that I can pull up from any computer, which rules out 1password. I've heard good things about supergenpass
- Mark Philpot
Take a look at Clipperz then, if you can get to the internet you can get to Clipperz (http://www.clipperz.com/)
- Justin Yost
Justin - @jtyost2 - I just checked out www.clipperz.com for the password mgmt, looks promising, but wish there were better integration w/ Firefox somehow. It's pretty cumbersome to get started.
- Alex Schleber
Yeah that is a drawback.
- Justin Yost
thanks 4 reminder should do it now arrgh!! as we speak!!
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert due to all the virus issues we went to a more secured password format 3 months ago. We use a minimum of 8 characters numbers letter and mixed case password plus you can not use your name. We force our users to change their passwords every 3 months.
- Rob Cairns
I think for a security policy to be effective it has to be secret...
- Alexandros Georgiadis
KeePass (Win) and KeePassX (cross platform) is excellennt! Strong public encryption and publicly available source code. I would love to go with LastPass, they have a beautiful cross platform syncing solution, but since they are closed source (for now) I'm holding off switching to their product.
- Daniel Chow
I stopped using the same password years ago. To help me keep up with the various passwords, I have been using KeePass on Windows, Windows Mobile and OS X for several years; I'm waiting for iKeePass to become available.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
http://www.yubico.com/home... for hardware PW protection, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... FireFox addon LastPass is for software app, https://www.grc.com/passwor... for GRC's ultra High Security (put it on a usb flash and copy paste), http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008... geeks know everything!
- Rich Weaver
Yep the 'ecosystem' is undoubtedly insecure. I believe this type of hacking also has elements of social engineering to it. I dislike the "secret questions" as today when most people's personal information is transparent online what purpose do those questions serve, except to weaken security? Can we please opt out of dumb security questions... someone start a petition or something!
- ASKJDOG
Great Post, I learned more about improving my security in 15 minutes than I would have at a 2 day seminar. :)
- Robert Higgins
I hope the lasting legacy of twittergate is better security thanks to articles like this one.
- Stephen Mack
I use http://passwordmaker.org/ for most of my password, it means I only need to remember a single password and it generates a unique password for each site I use (by hashing my password with the url). For the remaining sites, I use http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ and dropbox to sync my password database across machines.
- Wilka Hudson
I see many people using/recommending password generator sites. I also recommend these, but one day I thought - what if the password generators are hacked? --> http://robotterror.com/site...
- Robert J Taylor
Password Maker (the first link) isn't just a password generator site - I use it as a FireFox plugin. It's also open source, so if you're really unsure about the safety of it you can have a look at the code yourself. I realise that's not a very good answer for an non-coders, but it does mean that if it was hacked *somebody* would notice and it would be all over blogs like Bruce Schneier http://www.schneier.com/blog/
- Wilka Hudson
Also, for you those of using Firefox - you should look at this: http://cubicledenizen.blogspot.com/2008...
- Wilka Hudson
I think unless we develop somethig better than passwords we will never fix the problem. Using different strong passwords is good but it's no better than locking a cycle up outside a store, they just ensure that only dedicated people hack your acount/steal your cycle, which in general are the worst people to hack your account.
- Darren Rollett
Some people on here have informed the world what their password policy is and what tool they use to generate passwords. If this had been a conversation down the pub then probably not a problem but if I want information on high value passwords FriendFeed would probably be the place to go due to the people who use the system.
- Darren Rollett
Nobody has mentioned https://mashedlife.com - it uses a bookmarklet to log you into your sites. That way you can use anything for the password. Cliperz looks like a similar system.
- Daniel Siva
just now reading the digg short url discussion, I was not aware this changed and will check in on it tomorrow (was on vacation for 2 weeks)
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Ummmm, you may want to check in on it a little sooner than that... :-)
- Craig Bailey
If I was running a major Web Company I would be checking emails and news a little more often.
- Sean Cantellay
if i was running a major web company i wouldn't really care what techcrunch writes
- Chris Heath
*mob-giggles*
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
the vacation excuse is lame.... seriously
- Graeme Thickins
It's lame to have been in China on a Tea Tour? Give him a break, and let him look into it today as he promised.
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
You know what's lame? Techcrunch writing a link-bait article based on one tweet from someone they could easily get in touch with for further explanation and or comment, but instead going ahead with a quick speculative article with no real information besides the tweet itself... THAT's what lame
- Chris Heath
Tar and feathers! :P
- Mike Lewis
@Chris Health - Agreed.
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
Hey Kevin, come to Friendfeed for sound advice on how to run your company. Yeah, that sounds like something he's going to do.
- Fleagle
Fever and the Future of Feed Readers - http://al3x.net/2009...
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It's too bad Alex doesn't have comments. I would love to ask him what he thinks of using Fever with FriendFeed's likes. I do my like feed at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... specifically to help with this issue.
- Robert Scoble
For some reason he likes you to blog your response to his blog posts instead of comments. I just wish he'd respond to the developer API list conversations going on right now about the changes he put in place Friday morning instead of going to chocolate factories and pondering about Feed readers and writing books.
- Jesse Stay
and yes I'm bitter. :-) I'm still recovering from that change.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that too. Of course, by not having comments it just means we'll talk about you anyway, just not on your blog.
- Robert Scoble
"Blending Subscriptions with Social Data" is part of the Friendfeed model, wonder if Fever includes such capabilities?
- Mike Chelen
'Personalized Curation' is the one and only way to preserve the richness and diversity, afforded by the Long Tail.
- Vasu Srinivasan
I go back and forth on "comments or no comments" on a blog. Forcing people to blog about you on their own site helps keep the conversation better in a lot of ways. People will say a lot of (bad) things in comments that they wouldn't say on a blog post on their own site.
- Ted Roden
Ted, yet, when they do blog something bad it is much more public. I wanted to respond to Alex's announcement previously in which he said he was writing a book. I couldn't via comments, so I wrote a blog post about it criticizing him taking that step so early in Twitter's lifetime. I got yelled at for doing it, but there was no better way unfortunately.
- Jesse Stay
You got yelled at for doing the only reasonable thing al3x wants: responding via your blog?
- Andy Bakun
Andy, basically, yes. The yelling was for criticizing his announcement of writing a book publicly, but yes, I was yelled at by him and his supporters.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I missed the post regarding "criticizing his announcement of writing a book publicly" ... link?
- Ted Roden
YouTube - The FriendFeed Whiteboard - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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High quality version available (on YouTube)
- Dan Hsiao
Smart!
- AJ Batac
cool stuff.
- Alan Le
Now refresh the page :)
- Andrew Smith
Whiteboard prototyping FTW!
- Hao Chen
Is it just me or is the most impressive thing about this video is their ability to write in straight lines without a rule?
- Mark Trapp
seeing stuff like that always gets me motivated to draw wire frames.
- Adam Helweh
They filmed themselves slowly erasing it, then ran it backwards. Makes them look extremely steady-handed.
- Dylan Parker
Dan, why do I get the feeling you wear that shirt a lot? ;)
- Christopher Chung
I would definitely need a rule for that!!
- Alex Sauceda
Really well done, guys
- Christopher Sacca
Very cool!! Great work!
- Karen Padham Taylor
Fantastic. I bet that took more than 5 minutes to make though. :)
- Mike Cassidy
Is that how you guys do all your UI mockups?
- Brian Johns
I'm going to have to talk to my UI guys. They're too slow.
- Ryan Kuder
Bubble... Because I love it :)
- Ross Miller
+ the music is really nice
- alexxandra
LOL, who doesn't have a whiteboard these days?
- Zachary TG
morning all!, back from China, trying to get through 400'ish emails. relaxing friday music: http://www.thesixtyone.com/erasedt...
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any interesting things during your trip in China?
- Lin Yong
from NoiseRiver
Chuck Shotton says Twitter is a prototype. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Really enjoying this site: http://www.colourlovers.com/
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Same. Have been using the Off Drugs (so far) palette (http://www.colourlovers.com/palette...) for a new project (http://www.storehouseapp.com)
- Robert Kern
Friendfeed is irresistibly useful now. Recent features add up to a really compelling product. Really hope Twitter never chokes 'em.
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Saw this immediately thanks to notifications.
- MG Siegler
Saw your comment immediately.
- Gabe Rivera
BTW, that was my first FF comment since August '08.
- Gabe Rivera
Like a virgin.
- MG Siegler
Welcome back then Gabe!
- Simon Wicks
I'm tellin' ya. FF's back. Just bookmarked their iphone friendly site.
- Mario Sundar
you don't say ;-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
The day FF will launch real-time, the earth will stand still.
- Jérôme Flipo
Jerome: wut? I myself will lurve saved searches AKA track AKA Gillmor's Grail
- Gabe Rivera
I meant every smart microblogger will have to move to Friendfeed. Time will only run on Friendfeed!
- Jérôme Flipo
Gillmor may spontaneously combust if track hits FF before it restarts on twitter
- Adrian
I'd love to hear a list why its "irresistibly useful" for you, Gabe. I'm still quasi-resisting, although I do find it useful.
- C. K. Sample III
I will repeat here: it would be great for users if Twitter and FF merged their capabilities. One completes the other.
- William Mougayar
William, what does Twitter do that Friendfeed doesn't?
- Jérôme Flipo
Hey Gabe - great to see you here
- Hutch Carpenter
what recent features excite you
- @baratunde
CK, baratunde: essentially, its capacity to extend Twitter in very useful ways. Creating small friend lists here (to track separately from your main feed) is easier here than with Twitter desktop apps, and the results come in in real time. I also turned on IM notifications for select friends. Remember Twitter had IM? They took the feature away.
- Gabe Rivera
There goes the neighborhood! :-)
- Robert Scoble
The last couple days on Twitter have brought me back to FF as well
- Costa Walcott
Gabe - any plans to add services like FriendFeed/Backtype/Reddit etc to Link Search option in Techmeme. Tried Link Search on top headline i.e. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL... and got zero results from Google Blog Search/Ask and IceRocket returned 5.
- Atul Arora
Atul: huh, putting a URL in FF search does come up with useful results, so I think I'll add FF to the link search list. If those other services have backlink search currently available, please list sample query urls here and I'll take a look. (BTW, to see what Atul's talking about, click "Preferences" on Techmeme, then click "Show Link Search".)
- Gabe Rivera
Backtype aggregates across Reddit, YCombinator and FriendFeed - See http://www.backtype.com/comment...
- Atul Arora
Gabe bit.ly also does link search and returns FriendFeed, Twitter and Backtype results for all bit.ly version of that URLs e.g. http://bit.ly/info/8XNa4. Since @TechmemeFH and @Techmeme are both using bit.ly the link search is simply adding the + after the URL i.e. http://bit.ly/8XNa4+ for the bit.ly based link search.
- Atul Arora
Gabe, here's a link to our connect feature which shows all the conversation around a link (digg, reddit, twitter, friendfeed, hacker news, and posts that link in): http://www.backtype.com/connect...
- Mike Montano
Mike - so what is bit.ly using to show comments from backtype. It shows zero comments. Is it filtering comments so that it only shows comments from the blog page?
- Atul Arora
Thanks Mike, Atul. I will take a close look at this later and probably add some more link search links.
- Gabe Rivera
Atul, yes they're using a method that only fetches comments from the page being queried, though full connect functionality would be a nice addition imo.
- Mike Montano
Hey look Gabe is back! :)
- Susan Beebe
I agree, except that it should be easier to add an external feed other than through the cumbersome creation of an "Imaginary Friend".
- Derek Mahar
My mustache is more lustrous and thick after switching to FriendFeed. I have a lot more energy. Even my wife has noticed certain improvements in my usefulness around the house. Thanks FriendFeed! [I BLUSH]
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm still going to say that I think links to friendfeed discussions on blog posts belong on Techmeme. ;)
- Thomas Hawk
Wait, is this sarcastic Twitter Gabe or normal Gabe? What persona have you decided to adopt on FF? :)
- Matt Cutts
No idea whether it's of use to TechMeme, Gabe, but FriendFeed's API will give you a list of all the entries that link to a specified URL. http://code.google.com/p... You can see it in action with http://ffcheck.com
- Ken Sheppardson
I agree I like Friendfeed simplicity.
- LaShea Miller
Friendfeed just gets better every day (and is incredibly responsive to user feedback!)
- Charlie Anzman
like the notifications air app ... been trying it out.
- Julian Lukács
FriendFeed FTW!
- (jeff)isageek
@mattcutts: hah, no I'm serious here. FF's current feature set now offers great value to me. I suspect FF still has a major challenge offering a compelling and differentiated product to the Oprah crowd, but that doesn't concern me (and FF may nail that eventually).
- Gabe Rivera
@thomashawk: noted. :-)
- Gabe Rivera
I have already noticed a massive increase in followers on friendfeed recently. Anecdotal evidence indicates friendfeed is growing (I find it has a higher utility as well)
- Jordan Willms
Agree, great improvements!
- Tim Moore
Overly Judgemental Internet Explorer 6 Splash Pages - http://laughingsquid.com/overly-...
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Hey, I posted this yesterday! [sulks]
- Michael R. Bernstein
How about "I'm not a good enough designer to support IE6 and I don't want your business because your IT department makes you use an old browser."?
- Andrew Smith
Honestly if your IT department still makes you use IE6 they will likely insist you buy the Microsoft / IBM / Oracle / etc. enterprise solution anyway, so a small web dev's unwillingness to develop for IE6 is a wash.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Andrew it's funny. laugh.
- mjc
Sorry, should have just passed on this. More designers need to read this http://boagworld.com/persona... and stop regurgitating what the cool kids say. </end rant> The Fear T-shirt thing is funny :)
- Andrew Smith
Join the cause: http://www.bringdownie6.com/bring-d...
- chrisofspades
Why is "Get Fucked" an insult? The proper response should be "Thanks! I'd love to."
- Sprague D
Funny!
- Robert Scoble
Application attitude.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
That is funny. I love the No Fear tshirt reference
- Keith - @tsudo
can also read: "if your workplace or you can't or won't pony up a few hundred to buy a new computer, you shouldn't be looking to hire me in the first place". Aw, have a laugh, man!
- dario
love it
- sean percival
I love these splash screens. That is just so funny!!!
- tomit
We are trying to describe what community managers do. Your thoughts?
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Being the champion in Rod Beckstrom's analogy of the decentralized organization
- Bjoern Negelmann
Therefore being "relentless in promoting a new idea" (the idea of the community) and "inherently hyperactive"
- Bjoern Negelmann
@brianoberkirch check out The Four Tenets of the Community Manager http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...
- Jeremiah Owyang
Discussing with community leaders
- Igor Poltavskiy
Community managers mediate between community members!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Well don't community managers manage communities?
- Wayne Schulz
My favorite part of the role is sifting through all the great feature requests and recommendations, getting free user feedback on how to make your product better.
- Adam Darowski
Suggest they be called something else. You don't MANAGE your community, you serve it.
- shelisrael1
I like Shel's answer! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Smartly ride herd on the cattle, the cowboys, the ponies and the coyotes--y(ou can tell I've been in Colorado too long from this answer, can't you?)
- susan mernit
Shel, we agree the term isn't a good one. In my case, HR needed to have the term manager in the books for the title. We all know the real rules of engagement.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Damage Control.
- Geoff Schultz
Ask HR. Are they Human Managers? (well in a sense they are). By parallel the title could be Manager, Community Relations
- Michael Markman
Found enough good stuff in links & commentary here & twitter to do a (gasp) blog post on this. You remember those, right?
- Brian Oberkirch
Most companies I've studied are horrible at bootstrapping community. They don't know how to get one going. But they are fairly good at managing things that are already built. So, a community manager is someone who keeps an already-existing community happy. Who listens to the community and takes care of problems. Who finds new content and other things for that community, IE, who feeds that community. Here on FF we're ALL community managers due to the distributed nature of how FF works.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert I couldn't agree more. Been on both ends. Was moderator for a huge board for a couple of rock stars and did exactly as you say. That community thrived because they wanted to be there. Nothing I did generated that. I only maintained it. I sure learned the difference when I tried to start communities for several other orgs!
- Melanie Reed
Way back in the day I "managed" several mailing lists (I still miss majordomo, btw), most of which were very focused. It's really more like herding cats than cattle. A largely thankless job that you do because you have a passion for the topic at hand. Community managers, if up to the task, can keep the channel clear of enough noise for the community leaders' signal to get through.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
They hang out in the community and rep the company and its products. Apologizes if the company screws up. Encourages people to choose the company's products over the others. Helps people find the right person in the company to work with. Retains their humanity, and generally takes the customer's side whenever possible. Quits if the company acts in an unprincipled way, so they act as a guarantor of the honesty of the company. A canary in the coalmine. Best if it's the CEO of the company.
- Dave Winer
We call the roll Community Gardener since they need to plant the right seeds, ensure water & sunlight and a healthy environment. That includes tending to weeds, ensuring that things that will pollute the healthy growth of the community do not take hold.
- Austin Hill
The Real Community Manager is Proselytes Maker
- Lora Lufark
good CM projects his passion for the subject into the primordial soup, infects people with ideas and said passion, and catalyzes community formation per se. That's the fun part. Then it's onwards to herding cats.
- Michael Bravo
New Site Feature 'Digg Dialogg' launches. Tons of more guests coming soon: http://blog.digg.com/?p=145
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