kunwar - Comments

From NewsGrange: "Yesterday, people posted screenshots of their desktops – the day before – pictures of themselves – tomorrow, it’s going to be a picture of their feet. FriendFeed (or at least the part that I am subscribed to) is becoming a completely self-referential community that creates less and less value for me." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet

51 more comments

Agree? Disagree? Let them know in the comments. (And no, this is not my site or opinion) - Louis Gray

It's a little harsh, although I do accept that there has been a serious shift with FF. Where as it was once primarily a secondary discussion around posts, today it's a full blown social network in its own right. And I might add, it's a network I'm happy to be part of, and unlike facebook, it's one I'm happy to spend time in - Duncan Riley

It's impossible to create aggregator that shows exactly the content you want. FF can be fine-tuned with lists and hides to filter, but it can't be perfect, either. I think all the meme's etc bring the community together and makes them more likely to add more useful content, too :) - Jemm

Agree - Stefano

They should subscribe to fewer people. My tech list doesn't participate in most of the memes and I don't click like on many of them either. - Robert Scoble

So come on, who's going to start the "Photo of my feet" meme? - Bec Rowe @d0tski

I think tagging / categorizing would bring more value as I want to add both fun and tech content. Tags would help filtering data for my followers from my end. - Jemm

use the lists feature, which i find to be a great sorting tool on FF, and adjust your filtering strategy. personally, i don't mind the pictures of people, and their feet... it brings a little bit of humanity to what is an essentially unnatural activity...sitting in front of a computer, that is... - .LAG liked that

I would have to disagree. Maybe its just the people but I honestly didn't see many post about the list at all. And also, sure there are many useless memes, but I see may great photos, news stories, personal stories, funny things, etc throughout the day. I don't know what Friendfeed your referring to, but its not the one I'm a part of. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

if you're only getting your feet wet with Friendfeed and playing around in the home feed, then yeah, I agree it's convoluted (although, personally that works for me). However, with just a little tuning of the rooms and lists, you can avoid most of that stuff, if you really wanted to. For me, I'm only peripherally interested in the tech news, it's everything else that goes on here that really strikes my fancy. - Pete D

ببینید این ها هم از فرفر خسته شدن ! - Milad.p

Todays "Picture of me as a child meme" makes me think that he's right. Its really getting on my nerves. - Roberto Bonini

Agree with Duncan. Also, conversations seem to start around threads begun in rooms like "Apps" or "Goodies". Where the context is set. - Stu Andrews

The page is blank. :( - Kevykev

ff key: separate signal from growing noise - Igor Poltavskiy

I for one appreciate the non-tech posts, just as much as the tech posts. Friendfeed isn't just for discussing OAuth... - Matt Frog

I agree, this isn't Techfeed or Oneparticularsubjectfeed, this is Friendfeed which means that pretty much anything and everything can be shared. That is why you can connect so many different services to Friendfeed and why you have rooms based on different topics. Yes, there are some instances of noise. But, I must say that even as I've subscribed to more and more people I'm not really encountering any noise. And the only things I find myself hiding are post in languages other then English. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

on the topic, i think duncan said it well early in the thread & louis what sort of site have you linked to, its a void except for this mindless "hating" ff now that its diverse post - that's not like you... - mike "glemak" dunn

I see the point but it's simply a matter of subscribing to the people who interest you/who post articles/shares you are interested in. I don't get it. Doesn't this person know how to do this? Was FF created for tech news only? The name certainly doesn't suggest that. You can share what you like, if the reader doesn't like it then they can unsubscribe or create a friend list tailored to their needs. - Kol Tregaskes

After joining FF, my activity on all other sites has not slightly decreased, but I am happy with FF cos' now I don't have to login to all those sites just to see what others have posted. I log into them only if I want to post something. Otherwise I carry on discussion only on FF. In simple words, I love FriendFeed! - kunwar

Mike, I saw the site left a trackback on Robert's list. It does seem to be a bit of a hit and run. - Louis Gray

Bah, whinging because of FF's increasing variety and diversity - it's still social media, so there will be social aspects. FF's slowly diverging from it's original tech bias, deal. Use the tools provided, block, unsubscribe, or use lists to remove what you don't like or simply be more discerning in subscriptions. - Mo Kargas

Talk about linkbait... well, he got what he wanted. - Sprague D

I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community. If the early adopters would like a tech list to dabble in information create a room and hang out in it! I happen to like a bit of diversity on FF... it adds to the value for me. Isn't too much of a photo meme the same as me getting pissed off on the 30000 Google Chrome posts? Or the iPhone App posts that litter my home feed? You can get tired of stupid, funny postings. You can get tired of random noise and - Kyle Lacy

chatter. The last thing you need to do is get tired of FriendFeed. If you are tired of personality and a community of diversity, go quarantine yourself in Strandz. :-) This is what social media is all about. Have a good day everyone! - Kyle Lacy

Definitely Kyle, once again on the ball mate - Mo Kargas

Louis, and all, I did stop by and thank the author for sharing his/her opinion. I have no worries with listening to the opinion and am not offended. Robert is fairly accurate in his assessment, as is Mathew (and many others). I have come for conversation on all manner of topics. I am interested in more than simply tech, and I hope that my likes and comments reflect that. I have begun to really enjoy the oddball humor and many interesting recommendations that come from everyone I subscribe to. Keep it up. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

This happens to every social site - as the community grows, it tends to trend towards the kind of stuff that a large community can agree on, which tends to be funny pictures and dumb memes more than thoughtful commentary. Bolstering the rooms feature for more topical discussion would help greatly with this; in the meantime I'd suggest just culling your friends list. - Eric P

You can't tell people what to do or share. You can just filter the people you find interesting, and make good use of the rooms and lists features. - Alejandro

I like friendfeed as it has become. its a community of different people and different ideas. to qoute public enemy "bring the noise!" :) - (jeff)isageek

USEFUL CONTENT MEME! LOLzorz. - tehKenny

This is what turned me off FriendFeed for awhile, and after trying to come back the same thing. I'm not going to call out any names but I got tired of seeing FUNNY PICS and just silly things that isn't new, just midly interesting, and most of it I had seen before on sites like Reddit, Digg, etc. .. My goal of FriendFeed was to be able to connect to people of like-mindedness on things I am interested in. Perhaps it's the people I'm subscribed to but even searches for things I'm interested in don't turn... - Bartek Ciszkowski

(Continued comment) .. up very intriguing results. I've participated in one or two memes because I was bored but the FriendFeed problem is the same as any social-based network: You have your star players, they get all the attention, they post most of the links, and it becomes centered around them. It's too much effort to block/unsubscribe and filter it all out so now I'm stuck thinking how I can make FriendFeed useful for me. - Bartek Ciszkowski

I know how you feel.. I can post a link and it'll get ignored. Someone else with a higher profile will post the same thing and it'll generate a load of activity. This is a central problem I notice across the net - it's billed as the great equaliser but it isn't, people don't have a fair shout because of human nature and its tendancy to coaless around "prominent personalities" and cliquish behaviours. I doubt this is a "problem" that can be fixed by technology as it sits much deeper. - alphaxion

@alphaxion I've had that happen a few times. At first I was kinda miffed that I'd posted something topical and relevant and got no response, and then someone else had posted the same link a couple of hours later and got 30-40 comments. Still, I still post stuff I find interesting, and that I hope others will too. If we don't post links, because we think that it will always only be the high-profilers ones that get read, then it WILL always only be theirs that get read! - Ian May

Kyle, you said "I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community." The problem is when a bunch of people participate in every meme: those people stop functioning productively in the tech community. P.S. I'm glad my month-long curmudgeonry about MemeFeed has finally gotten mainstream! - Mark Trapp

There's something productive about the contributions of the tech community? News to me - a thousand people going "ZOMG Google Chrome!!!" and "Dude check out my iPhone!" strike me as being about as useful as lolcats but less interesting. - Eric P

There's a tech community on FriendFeed? Where? I see a lot of talk about Web 2.0 sites and using webapps, but very very little about tech. - Jason Carreira

@Mark What is a productive tech community? - Kyle Lacy

@ian I know, I have the same philosophy with everything - I post to my site even though no-one goes to it, I produce podcasts that no-one will see nor hear. I don't care about any lack of traffic, I do it cause I want to. If someone else picks up on it, ok. If I change one persons opinion, fantasic job done. @jason we are there, it's just we don't have many subscribers to hear it ;) - alphaxion

It was just Sunday night - everyone is more relaxed over the weekend. - Jesse Stay

+1 Jesse. Thank you - Kyle Lacy

Agreed to a certain point. (I still like having fun with you all.) I will do my best to be more informative instead of entertaining. I will go for being 80% informative and 20% entertaining/fun. I don't want to treat FriendFeed like a Face Book or MySpace application or see it become one. I originally came to FF to follow some of the greatest tech minds ever and learn from them. I’m not apologizing for following the meme’s, but I will cut back from some of them. - David Cook

Breakfast is still for WINNERS! - Thomas Hawk

I still find it to be pretty useful. I don't check it everyday mostly because it requires more time to dig through everything and involve myself in some discussions that interest me. Yes there is a lot of noise but that unless your FOF is completely unmanageable there you can often find some great stuff buried in all that noise. - Devlin Dunsmore from twhirl

The problem I'm seeing is that people spend more and more of their time on the silly memes - which I suspect leaves little or no time to read worthy articles that are shared (often by less-popular users), and certainly almost no time to comment on them, especially considering how quickly they get buried by the meme entries. FF will need to overcome this. - Aviv

The past 2-3 weeks have seen a huge upsurge in FF photo traffic, which is a direct result of the new photo feature being so easy to use now after the recent FF beta went into production (some of us were aware of how to use mail2ff app (which I think FF later acquired). So, I was expecting this increase; however, it certainly went viral when all these "meme" photos popped up. Early on, I suggested a MEME Room to contain all the madness so folks could manage their preferences to opt in/out. Cont'd....... - Susan Beebe

Cont'd....... Also, I think we're seeing a genuine interest in folks getting to know each other better. This generated the whole photos idea, which seems to have cemented new online friendships and opened the door to a plethora of new "memes" thereafter. I still think we need a "meme room" to filter in/out this new content type. In the end, this all may be just a short-lived trend. - Susan Beebe

as for the "silly meme" trend on ff, i don't mind them but haven't really participated much (i have very little time) - i have created a specialty list called "high volume" that gets most of these out of my primary feed/lists, it has cut down the noise but i still can go scan through them when time allows - works for me... - mike "glemak" dunn

Gang, is FriendFeed specifically geared towards tech, or was it simply the early adopters that found and spread the concept of "life streaming"? - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

If Newsgrange doesn't like what the people they follow are posting, they can simply change who they follow. To whine about this is a total waste of their time! Talk about ironic and not having a clue. - Dread Pirate PJ

I think FriendFeed is becoming more than just a place for tech. Depending on the people you subscribe to, you could have a nature feed, you could have a geeky feed, you could have a tech feed and so on. I think FriendFeed is able to grow along with the diverse users. FriendFeed has the power to become a strong and powerful resource for anyone. Period. Regardless of anything, literally. - wiredgnome

Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Blades of the Country - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

September 28, 2008 from Flickr - Comment - Like - Share

Kevin Johnson, Mladen Srdić, Yolanda and 9 other people liked this

Matthew: You're an amazing photographer! :) - Mona Nomura

6 more comments

Thanks Mona. Although I don't think I'm amazing (yet) I do think that I've improved greatly since I got my first DSLR. And to be honest, I have so much that I haven't shown b/c I've been lazy and haven't been posting as much as I should be. No ones fault but my own. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Anyone can figure out how to work a camera and post process. Not everyone has an eye. ;) I'll be looking forward to the rest of your pictures! - Mona Nomura

Mathew, epic work sir and Mona, so very true - Johnny

I'd like to say expect more to come. But, who knows with me. I have so much that I haven't shown yet. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

*waits* - Johnny

- waiting - - Mona Nomura

Truly amazing!!! I too love photography (don't have a decent camera though)! Please keep sharing your great work - kunwar

Adam Singer

@jowyang you might dig my tunes too if you like MA - nab my last album as a free mp3 download here: http://www.agsinger.com/...

September 28, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

hope this helps!! http://interfacelift.com/wallpap... - kunwar

Kol Tregaskes

[FIREFOX] See How Often You Visit Web Sites in Firefox 3 - http://friendfeed.com/e...

September 28, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

Live4Emma (L4S) liked this

Could be useful. - Kol Tregaskes

one of the simple but useful features which are always there but never noticed. (I love the word "exact" (like in 'exact no. of glasses of wine u have gulped down till today') - kunwar

Adam Singer

I feel like everyone in my feed is (friend of Robert Scoble)

September 27, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

Collin, Joel Bennett, Hutch Carpenter and 5 other people liked this

Now you are. - Robert Scoble

6 more comments

Ironically, this came up for me as "Adam Singer (friend of Robert Scoble) ". And that makes me chuckle =) - FFing Enigma

+1 for Robert lol - Eric - Too Hot

Tina++ - Rahsheen

I bet Robert taps the mouse button and mutters "I friend ye" - Capn' One Eye - adrift

You must not have Mona as a friend, or it would be an even split between the two :-). - invariant

I feel like everyone in the world is friend of Scoble. Oh no...I'm not!!! - kunwar

The cool thing about that is, I don't have to bother adding any more people, just add Scoble wherever I go, and *poof* I'm drinking from the firehose again. - Joel Bennett

Live4Emma (L4S)

Browser Speed Tests: The Compiled, Up-to-Date Results - http://lifehacker.com/5055406...

September 26, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Nukirk Digi-tal, earl wallace, David Cook and 8 other people liked this

This is the exact order I have the icons on my desktop. And yes, it's because it's alphabetical =/ - FFing Enigma

5 more comments

I moved back to FF as default. Missing extensions too much, and hating ads too much too. Chrome is second, and use it mostly for Gmail. - Juan Pablo González

Firefox 3 RC 3? - yjl

Mark, I find Opera takes the least memory on my system with regular use as well. Caveat: I don't use Safari often, only for testing, so I can't really say how it performs over the long haul. - FFing Enigma

Chrome-not available for mac. I move between Safair/Webkit and FF depending on what I'm doing. - Paul W. Swansen

for me chrome is simply lots faster then every other browser and i don´t need tests for it - it´s simply obvious! - Dieter Schwarz

I won't leave Firefox for any reason until a browser arrives which gives me the option to extend its functionality through addons and extensions. (Can afford the memory load). - kunwar

kunwar › Comments