As mentioned earlier today, Twitter seems to have capped your ability to follow at 2,000 people, which just so happens to be exactly where I am. The goal, in theory, is to stop marketing-oriented spammers, but it could be another way to reduce stress on the system. So what should I do now, delete "less favored" people, or wait for Twitter to figure this out?
- Louis Gray
from email
Maybe it's the legacy talking, but I'm really not bothered by this. :P
- l0ckergn0me
I can see why they do it, but it does suck for the people who do it legitimately and are not using stupid mass follow scripts.
- David Risley
I'm not super-concerned either, but it does answer why all of a sudden, I started getting these errors last week. It could be part of their "Making Progress On Spam" initiative via the blog, but it hasn't been spelled out all that clearly.
- Louis Gray
let blame this one on Scobles... :)-
- Peter Dawson
Louis, I think cap is more of the architecture the system. Making it into a more robust platform. Now watermarks have been set, it becomes easier to build consistency of experience and application behavior. <Edit > wait for Twitter to figure it out.. Marketing spammers are targeting the 'stupid' one that have the auto follow !!
- Peter Dawson
gotta like it, if I'm the one you are trying to follow!
- Ben Hedrington
I don't think there should be limits like this, but I guess everything can't be infinite
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I honestly am indifferent about it; Twitter is going to hell and i tried my best to convert it; oh well, Hell has cookies
- Gordon Swaby
I"m only following 49... with 106 followers..
- Ian May
so what do you think, Louis, is benhedrington worth going to the mat for?
- Nathan Rein
I'm sure I can find someone to unfollow in exchange for Ben.
- Louis Gray
Twitter needs to build in groups functionality a la tweetdeck for following 2K+ to even be practical.
- Nicholas Molnar
Louis: You need to convince the new people to head over here :)
- Justin Korn
I'm just curious what the rationale is for following that many people.
- Paul Rodriguez
Well, maybe that's why Louis always seems to know what's going on before anybody else.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've noticed that most of the time I get followed by somebody with a big number, it tends to be marketing play. It triggers the email to you and then you go look and click on their bio link which takes you to the pitch. Very irritating. I always block em.
- Mark Schulz
@Paul Rodriguez, I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have even guessed there are 2000 interesting people in the world </cynicism>, but what fascinate me is that i'm following like 83 people and only about 14 of them tweet regularly. I can assume most of those 2000 do not tweet regularly. Add in the fact that I'm a WAHM to two toddlers, and do other stuff, there'd be a lot of stuff I'd miss.
- Admiral Anika
New profit center? Sorry, but now you'll have to join Twitter Pro ....
- Charlie Anzman
Very interesting. System limits is going to be a topic that we all work through in this early phase of the Social Web. It seems to me that it's reasonable to cap the number one follows to 1,000 or 2,000. On the flipside, one would clearly like to enable a very high number of followers. With respect to bi-directional connections, the real number should max at 1,000 to 2,000...
- John McCrea
This is awesome! Incidentally, Scoble (@Scobleizer) is still following over 30K.
- Vincent van Wylick
So where is the point following 30k people? You might as well hit the main timeline. The only thing that is bad about this limit is that it was not there from the beginning.
- Alexander Kohlhofer
so what's going to happen to those who follow over 2000?
- Wayne Sutton
you follow two. thousand. people.??? never mind twitter; there may be a law against that.
- jeneane sessum
I like the new limit. I cannot see how anyone would be able to legitimately follow (and pay attention to) more than 2,000 people. Frankly, even that limit seems higher than it needs to be. If it helps keep Twitter a little more stable, go for it.
- Dennis Metzcher
Couple thoughts: the limit impacts the ability to use the service as a direct message router -- for some people. It also reinforces the need for dectralized microblogging -- so if you want exceed the limits you can do so on your own infrastructure. Lastly, nothing prevents you from following everyone or a subset of people through RSS/feeds.
- Chris Messina
Are we sure that Twitter has set a 2,000 limit are or we cranking up the rumor mill? I've seen image before with respect to my own account - an account which just reached 1,000 followers today. According the Twitter rep who contacted me, I got - ahem - put in "Twitter Prison" for "Aggressive Following" My ratio of Followers to Following was kinda out of whack - at that time I had only ~800 people following me while I was following ~2,800 - They suspended my ability to follow more people. I removed 2K.
- Vincent Wright
I don't understand the motivation for following 2K people if you're not a spammer... someone explain?
- Jason Carreira
Jason: For a entrepreneur/VC/angel networker, it would be very easy to hit 2,000 contacts (assuming you used Twitter like a rolodex). From one networking meeting, I might pick up 0-100+ business cards (more at conferences), and during a heavy season I could be doing 7-10 meetings/week. As a angel, I might want to follow 5,000-10,000+ projects/people. Anyone might have a really good project 2-10+ years down the pipe... I've got cartons/boxes of 3-ring binders of business cards in plastic sheets.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell @Charlie - Rumors aside, do you think the cap is a gesture towards monetization? Going after the power networkers? Seems you would have good cause to pay for a Twitter Pro, or would it just not be worth it?
- joneilortiz
I use Twitter as both a professional development tool (following people who say useful and interesting things abt health / edtech / social media / libraries ...), a personal tool (friends and folk who are amusing), and a reference tool (following a lot of news streams and information resources). You can hit 2000 fast. A friend says that people are imagining new ways in which Twitter could be used, but Twitter seems bound and determined to force them back into some small box of how it "ought" to be.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I would happily follow more than 2000 people, heck I am almost there. And I don't need to see every message. With Tweetdeck it's manageable. I see some Friendfeed users here have thousands to tens of thousands of subscriptions, should we also say it's good to have a cap here? No, please no. I understand that perhaps it has to do with monetization or stressing the system less, these are alas viable reasons.
- Jacob
I've been really tempted to put one of these in a SD->CF adapter for use in my Digital Rebel XT. But then the cost goes way up and my wallet vetoes me.
- Kevin Kuphal
I have a Home card (just wanted basic Wi-Fi), but was disappointed that it won't upload videos to my computer. A file is a file, what gives? Also, it's quirky to have to go to an external web site to manage a local device.
- LogEx
I have a Canon 20D, and the lack of CF version keeps me away from it :-)
- Ashu Joshi
Why use lists when the people I subscribe to are the ones I want to see? Only reason i have lists is to see specific people that I like to follow and catch up with at the end of the day. Kind of like RSS.
- Uncle CW™
no one likes change ,, change is inevitable ..
- johnpiercy
It's going to make HIDE much more important.
- Andrew Leyden
FriendFeed as the same potencial than Diigo and the same problem: not easy to use...
- António Teixeira
How dare you tell me how to use FriendFeed! (Except that you're right, of course; time to address my lists usage.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think that we have to introduce segmentation in our reading :) it is fun and exciting :)
- abdellah
I would like the icons back saying what type of service the post is from...possibly in the bottom right corner of the avatars.
- Paul Arterburn
My parents will hate how active the page is - the next generation, who go at the pace of Wall-E, will eat it up
- Christopher Galtenberg
haha, yeah I need to up my game in the lists - haven't had to use - but now I will. But I love it!
- Tony
That's dangerous. Lists require lots of thought, work, organization. If there's one thing we know from running Grazr, people do not want to do that (well most non-organization obsessed people). I think essentially forcing the use of lists is a big mistake for broader adoption.
- mikepk
so what's the first thing to do that's going to slow this down?
- Todd Jordan
I don't mind the speed, but I think there are more elegant things they could do with the UI during live updates (ie: fading to/from colors) and of course letting the user control speed of updates and UI effects.
- Ryan Stanley
when he name list, it mean filtering :)
- abdellah
Hmm... a few rooms (feeds now?) I created seem to be missing or just not easy to find. Will check out the tour to see if I'm missing something
- Dave Ferrick
the one problem with the speed is that what you are scanning suddenly jumps off the page. perhaps a way to "pin" what you are reading temporarily...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
woah neddy.....wouldn't tabs for search terms in the main page be a good idea...
- Paul Fabretti
Yikes, is there a pause button somewhere?
- Sally Church
This mega-threaded replies really do float to the top.
- Andrew Leyden
needs a keyboard shortcut for pause. Or a contextual gesture (like hovering over some part of a story). Having to scroll to the top to pause is clunky
- mikepk
Weird when what you're reading wobbles because there are things going on above it - if the L&F remains, we can dub this the 'newquake' :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I worried that the new oh my god it refresh so fast kill the conversation in FF, I havn't to worry robert thread will be there as long or may be longer then ever
- abdellah
I can't WAIT until the twitter-only crowd starts bitching about all of the friendfeed meta convos that are "cluttering up" their twitter streams
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Thomas, thank you, thank you! I was getting dizzy just trying to read anything. I hate the fugly UI and the RT speed. Going back to Twitter, at least one can read in peace at own pace there.
- Sally Church
Lists are the only way to fly, it seems. :)
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
dave!! do you want to read your FF list in an rss reader?
- abdellah
It pays to be a newbie right now I guess. The speed is to slow. I actually appreciate it being slow right now, gives me a chance to better understand it
- Russ Jackson
Yeah, I have my list paused now. I think we will get used to it anyway. It is fun to watch so many different reactions in so little time.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Have to say -- the message threading is now very nice indeed. Love the automatic update of comments, too. As I typed this, a couple others came in and didn't disrupt. Sweetness. Now I need to learn about lists.
- Anthony Baker
This is really nice so far..liking the realtime comments -DMs are a great addition. Time for more exploration :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I said the same thing, but then everyone told me I gotta use Filters instead....
- Bwana ☠
Lists are king :) Also, just figured out that ROOMS ---> "FEED" - everything is a "feed" type now
- Susan Beebe
Your green aura frightens me, Mr.Grinch.
- Terence
As I'm one who thinks the quality of interaction went down when lists were added, being forced to make more lists doesn't seem a positive.
- Todd Hoff
I thought the whole point of FF was that you didn't have to "learn" a lot about the interface in order to enjoy the experience. Lists kinda ruined things for me, so if that's the only way to enjoy the new FF, I guess I won't be.
- Jennifer Dittrich
David: I am using Safari as my FF client. Jennifer: that's never been true. This is a lot easier to learn than the old interface.
- Robert Scoble
This will force me to better use lists...
- Seth Meranda
You are the Captain Ahab of social media, Robert. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
The problem is using lists more actually decreases conversation IMHO. I dunno.....
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
There's also the pause button at the top of the page to stop the auto update.
- John F Morton
Yep, agreed. Learn to use lists, use filters, ya gotta learn that sooner or later. I had to do it in Facebook some time ago.
- Tom Parish
Do you have a formulas that you use for your lists?
- Ed Entrepreneur
The filters are only marginally useful. I don't see any way to filter stuff out of a feed. The options for searching/filtering seem just too basic to be any real use.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert, if this is how you've been following Friendfeed ever since you've started, you've become my personal hero. Either you have superpowers or you were born in Krypton.
- Jordi Soler
from twhirl
you need the pause button accessible from anywhere on the page. I'm 70 plus comments down on this conversation and the screen keeps pushing it down and makes the screen "jittery" to keep your eye on what you are reading. Because the screen is moving fast, you probably need 'comment' 'like' and 'hide' links on each nested conversation on anything over 30 comments
- Lou Paglia
now robert may we ask you to share with us some tip about list?!!
- abdellah
Brian: what would you like to see in filters?
- Robert Scoble
if you think the new FF is too fast, stop trying to follow Scoble's threads ;)
- Ryan Stanley
I'm gonna start on the lists :) Way too fast.
- Roberto Bonini
Any way to pause on an individual user's page?
- Aaron Fowler
abdellah: you need to build lists around interests and personality types. So "noisy jerks" go in one list "quilters" go in another "posts lots of bacon" goes in another "tech geeks" goes in another. Jordi: my life has been real time for more than a year now. This takes it to a new level, though.
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see negative searching for one thing -- I want to see everything that doesn't have LOLcats in it for example.
- Brian Sullivan
we need a keyboard shortcut for pause. Would help read comments, etc
- shaun mclane
We asked for ways to better track our discussions - and now we have an improved version (due to convenient link).
- Mike Reynolds
@Brian Sullivan search for cats -lolcats should eliminate them from your results
- Ryan
robert, I was thinking like hope that some will not screw the schema of filtering, notice that when we filter using keyword some will may probably try to target some keyword in their feed title .
- abdellah
Robert - yep - this definitely is not for the faint hearted. Must be on crack to use this! LOL
- Susan Beebe
It's an interesting interface. I'll be looking to see if conversations can still occur with this type of flow.
- AJ Kohn
Im curious Robert how many subscriptions do you show under your Subscriptions box. I have 9 and than 90 more.
- Russ Jackson
'welcome to my world' ha ha. i think with all the love the RS gives friendfeed on a regular basis it only made sense to improve it
- AJK
Agreed. I'm going to have to learn to make new feeds to keep using this. Also, I may have to do something to get rid of this light grey background.
- Ted Roden
Would you agree that after clicking on the more link there needs to be better organization of that page or can that be organized through lists as well.
- Russ Jackson
I need to be able to post updates from a list if they're going to be encouraging me to use lists.
- Jesse Stay
The lists/filters system is too complicated
- DarknessFalls
The problem is that lets say a video is shared, and I'm watching the video - the page keeps going down, and I can't finish watching the video inside FriendFeed! That's not sharing, is it?
- Daniel Brusilovsky
My problem is the lists and the filters create more feeds which create more need for more organization.
- Russ Jackson
@Daniel Good point. Perhaps they could open Videos (and similar stuff) in a modal window, allowing the content to scroll ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I think if they auto-pause the UI while I'm mousing over it that might help. It wouldn't need to pause long, just a few seconds.
- Matt Griffith
I don't foresee myself being a pioneer on the new FFeed, so hoping to see some interesting articles now that the embargo time has passed
- AJK
Just clicked pause for a minute but the counter for queued items doesn't show!
- Damian Holmes
Another suggestion on the new real-time updates. Give me keyboard shortcuts to pause the feed. Using my mouse is too slow in a fast-moving feed.
- Jesse Stay
There's alot to complain about FriendFeed and it's UI. Still has alot of problems to address.
- Chris Rodgers
I think the number of comments went from zero to +100 in les then 45 minutes.
- Peter van Teeseling
Ryan -- the "-lolcats" search doesn't do that from what I can tell -- it returns an empty feed. I would also like to be able to search for posts having less than a certain number of likes/comments as well as more . I would like to be able to set up searches/feeds for complex expressions ("-lolcats and -loldogs" or "-lolcats and -loldogs" from a group of people with more than 10 likes and 0 comments for instance).
- Brian Sullivan
I Can only image a multi-column FF layout...
- Greg Lato
it will happen Greg... has to... would probably actually lessen the jitter effect
- Christopher Galtenberg
UI Tweaks, please: keyboard pause, pause button/key on every page with live updating, comment link at end of comments
- Aaron Fowler
I love how fast it is going. It's really real-time.
- Peter Kruit
Needs a "slow it down" toggle - maybe a slider for the speed?
- Jesse Stay
OMG! I see why you bought a separate monitor.
- LeighaB
or we have the option of ignoring ff just like twitter gets ignored when I tried to reciprocate even a portion of the followers
- Susan Reynolds
@Leigha: Yeah, I can definitely see the need for another monitor for this version of FF. I'm considering it myself.
- AJ Kohn
OK, Now I see how the lists work. Much easier to manage.
- LeighaB
FriendFeed should take that as a sign - you shouldn't *need* a second monitor to use their service.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse: I view this as a better way to access the data flow - which is what I believe FF is at the end of the day. Why not have a separate place to conduct my data queries while I do other things?
- AJ Kohn
@Brian The negative searches work, but you can't just search for "-lolcats". That's just a blank search. Try "cats -lolcats"
- Aaron Fowler
For Twitter, the only way I listen in is via search.twitter.com or pure luck. Or via FF for that matter. I view more Twitter content on FF than on Twitter itself.
- Mike Reynolds
Brian, yeah I badly want to filter out lolcats too; -cat friends:maverickny seems to work so far
- Sally Church
Yeah following 11.5k people is hard. I really need to use lists
- Nicholas James
Andrew Leyden is totally right. It's like IRC.
- Ian Betteridge
one of my favourite descriptions of twitter: "like IRC meets the whole world"
- Dean Whitbread
I'm sorry @scobleizer but your world must die ;)
- A.T.
I use lots of lists and filters - I'd love to TURN OFF the real-time updating, please.
- Bill Sodeman
I could use a tutorial on how to use lists but do not have the time anyway :o)
- David Gross
the new friendfeed filters are awesome. even better than friend lists.
- Mike Bruder
by the time i have made a list, this page would have vanished :)
- Tatty Gibson
I'm back home & trying to catch up with what's up with the new FriendFeed - I'm assuming it's now live?? Also, I'm not noticing things moving too fast... is that because I'm not following as many people as many of you???
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
ill admit friendfeed looks pretty damn compelling. certainly complex at first blush.
- doubledrat
Moving people from out of my home feed to a different list one at a time is extremely slow. If there's a way to move people out of a list and into a different list in bulk, I haven't found it yet.
- Chuck Baggett
Is there any way to select almost everyone on your home list and move them to a different list in one operation? (Similar to how you can checkmark hundreds of messages in Gmail and perform an operation such as tagging or archiving on all of them at one time.)
- Chuck Baggett
Just clicked pause for a minute but the counter for queued items doesn't show!
- Damian Holmes
Damian, I noticed that too. I wish it would slow how many items are queued.
- Nicholas James
It rather zips along a bit too quikcly doesn't it?
- Tadhg Kelly
Update: Its now displaying the queued items for me. @Tadhg I think you should implement folders ;)
- Nicholas James
It really needs a polling option to set the speed up updates. You can pause the updates, but I didn't see a setting to slow it down.
- Tom Mancino
I like this new FriendFeed "live" concept, but would like to be able to choose a collapsed list view with an activity indicator flashing when updates occur.
- Evan Leeson
Tom you can hover over the feed, it slows it down ;)
- Nicholas James
it's not that fast for me...I don't know why people are complaining about it! :)
- Ahmed
It's ok, I am new and do not know what I am doing yet.. I do not expect to read every post, just like on twitter where I cannot read every tweet..
- David Gross
I'm really having trouble with the "Google" color scheme. It's just not my thing. More minimalism please. The layout is far too busy for me.
- Meryn Stol
It is a busy layout... I think they should take out the "More" and just add an accordian effect so you can look at the additional sources if you choose
- andy brudtkuhl
Do any sites do a good job of tracking stories over time?
- Christian Anderson
Robert, homemade spaghetti dinner if you make it to Olympia, WA. You and your wife can be the guests of me and my wife. Just give me 72 hours warning if ya can or my wife will beat me in an un-fun kind of way. :D
- MarkCarras
What's not clear: were the videos in question ever on the phone, and second, surely if this was an issue, they would have done due diligence before the deal.
- Duncan Riley
from Bookmarklet
From the news report: "Verizon said the controversial video was never shown on it's vcast service, and was never intended to be made available."
- Ken Sheppardson
The video in question was posted A YEAR AGO! Didn't Verizon see this coming?
- Pat Hawks
Pat, my question exactly. Ken, I heard that bit, but then what were people protesting about? the context doesn't fit, how can you boycott something that wasn't there?
- Duncan Riley
Someone found out about the video, a huge public protest happened, it would become a media circus because someone used a keyword "racism". So Verizon went nuts and said "Ohh we need to make a statement and do something now! Who cares what?"
- Candace
Maybe people are just upset Verizon would do business with Feldman?
- Pat Hawks
Verizon is full of shit. Loren is not a racist... I'm not going to stand for this PC crap!
- Noah David Simon
ok, is it just me or did Channel 4 News spell "activist" wrong? acctivist? just sayin'
- Christine Lu
It doesn't matter when the videos were made - much like it doesn't matter when a scandal arises over someone else's past behavior - like Obama's pastor & McCain's association w/ Gov. Williams. The behavior may be in the past - but the "guilt by association" is always in the present. Verizon clearly decided not to get behind Loren in this. Sometimes, your past does come back to haunt you. Even if it's not 'fair'.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Lucretia, the thing that doesn't make sense is why Verizon didn't think about this BEFORE making the deal, sense the videos didn't just pop up.
- Pat Hawks
Too bad the social media doesn't have the power of the mainstream media yet. Verizon could get a load of us calling "bs" on the whole thing. Though I doubt that will make them panic as much as this story did. ...It's terrible but, I'm laughing. Because this...this is funny.
- Candace
I like the Rev Wright angle. That's double groovy with one and half twists.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I think video is racist. Verizon and 1938 is a different story but the video is racist.
- Akshay Dodeja
Verizon is just a bunch of dolts wearing suits. If they didn't see it before it's because they didn't look for it. In other words: they didn't do their job. When they awoke from their slumber they were being pushed around by a bunch of hysterical PC ankle-biters.
- William, CPU Media
Media Circus time-Loren gets to follow the elephants and clean up.
- Mark Forman
hahaha this is great. I feel like 'internet people' have a much healthier conception of racism. Taking tech nigga out of context could easily make Loren a racist. But it really started a conversation, which is what I think what Loren originally hoped to do.
- Daniel Morgan
"Hello LA Humanity? This is Dave Winer. Did you know..." Have to say, glad to see feldboy getting nailed. Yep I am.
- jeneane sessum
@daniel morgan . I'm sorry but your comment "internet people" I find degrading to those of us who use the internet. I am afraid I am going to have to begin a public boycott of Friend Feed since they are allowing you to be on Friend Feed spouting such degrading stereotypes of people on the internet. ...I guess the internet is serious business after all.
- Candace
It appears things flared up over the weekend. I would just guess that in the wake of the announcement, the public started browsing Loren's back catalog. The video is linked to and/or embedded on a number of sites over the past few days. The earliest references to the boycott by Najee Ali, Project Islamic Hope, that I can find are from yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/5k4bxq and http://tinyurl.com/6s86yh.
- Ken Sheppardson
While we're at it -- screw YOU for not having some frickin respect.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
There's a difference between the state quashing free speech and people using free speech to influence the financial dealings of a private actor. Just sayin', 'tain't censorship. Loren owes his success to controversy, but that's a double-edged sword.
- Madsimian
Thanks for sharing this, Duncan, since I wouldn't have seen it otherwise, inasmuch as I'm ignoring Los Angeles local TV news, VCAST, and Najee Ali. Not boycotting, ignoring.
- Ontario Emperor
@Prolific Programmer: That's true if you refer to both sides reports. However the Al Jazeera network break the rules. Here's a Facebook app to add: http://apps.facebook.com/qassamc...
- Nir Ben Yona
@Ben Yona Is your second comment sarcastic?
- TunisianGuy
@NirBenYona al-Jazeera is a lot better than most news outlets. They regularly have Israeli MKs alongside Hammas members. I can't say the same for BBC World or CNN International, which give the view that the Palestenians ought to be happy Israel's giving them the little sliver of land that is Gaza.
- Prolific Programmer
If you are running Livestation (http://www.livestation.com) you can watch Al Jazeera English service and enter their real time chat room, even talking to a few reporters. Lots of shouting over there
- Andrew Leyden
@Prolific Programmer: presumably the BBC World stance is to balance out their domestic coverage (separately funded) which runs entire features without deviating from a pro-Hamas line - obsessively covering "deaths" (omitting the nature thereof) while ignoring the ongoing attacks on Israel. Hence the protests today in London all calling on Israel to ignore the aggression, rather than calling for Hamas to stop the attacks or disband.
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Twitter is now capping whitelisted applications at 20,000 API calls per hour. Combined with an API which doesn't reflect well its uses by applications, this drastically reduces its usefulness and ties the hands of the applications which provide Twitter its value.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
There are still no monetization schemes for Twitter, at least that anyone has heard of. Twitter is not planning to add premium features for pay, nor do they seem to have any other plans to earn income. All their money comes from funding.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
While the microblogging service itself is quite useful, Twitter's true value comes from the third party applications which connect with it. If those services have their hands tied, Twitter loses much of its value unless it implements its own versions of those apps (or buys them as it did Summize). It doesn't seem likely that they'll do that.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
All of these combined makes me believe that Twitter is strangling itself to death. They aren't making money on their own and becoming self sufficient as a business. And they are limiting the services which provide them their own service's value.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Chris, exactly - I don't understand why any able-minded developer would write for the service, especially after this move.
- Jesse Stay
This definitely curtails plans we had for using the Twitter API in an app we are developing
- andy brudtkuhl
Is there a market for Twitter API credits? I have extra capacity.
- Greg Guitarbuster
We can live without them, but from the ease of use provided by the clients, to SocialToo's ease of managing who you follow (as well as annoying followers ;) through the stat tools letting you know if you're overusing Twitter or making the right connections, do we want to live without them? By providing us a richer, fuller experience that (stock) Twitter doesn't, they give value to the service.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I can honestly say if it weren't for TweetDeck and FriendFeed, and the way they improve the use of Twitter, I'd not be using the service today.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
What % of twitter services need more than 20K? Is twitter's API supposed to be free forever for everyone? Why can't twitter be a freemium API?
- Ben Bloom
I ask these questions mostly as someone who wants to learn more, but also because it seems like extracting $ from some of the high-volume users seems like finding those with a reasonable ability to pay...
- Ben Bloom
Ben: Any third party service used by the top Twitter users, or anyone who follows or is followed by them. With that 20,000 cap, all it takes is Scoble and one other major user (or perhaps just Scoble himself) to max out a service for an entire hour, with only one hit. Jesse shows some math on his blog post http://is.gd/gIsB which demonstrates how unreasonably low it is.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Chris- thanks for the link to Jesse's post. I see what you mean that API connections don't have to be particularly high volume to hit the rate cap. I think it will be tough to tell if there is a correlation between the kind of service that would exceed the rate limit and a service that would pay for extra API calls. If there is, then Twitter is leaving money on the table. If not, they are indeed just limiting usefulness while protecting resources.
- Ben Bloom
Dr. Phil is talking about Twitter right now and Twittering live on his Twitter page. Sheesh. Why am I watching Dr. Phil you ask, I'm not, but my wife's got it on in the background.
seriously, I don't watch Dr. Phil, I've never liked the Dude, but my wife seems to go for his show.
- Thomas Hawk
300 followers... and 0 following. Yeah he's a twitter expert.
- Owen Byrne
I wonder if he adds many followers for pimping his Twitterstream on national TV. My guess is that not very many people who watch his show are part of the Twitternation.
- Thomas Hawk
yeah Owen. I doubt Dr. Phil's keeping tabs on his Twitterstream. haha. Some poor intern on the show probably has the job of posting to it.
- Thomas Hawk
I assume that when Dr. Phil tweets "What were you thinking?" it ends up being a swoosh.
- Ontario Emperor
No conversations with his followers. He's just tweeting what's on his show.
- Morton Fox
and how does that make you feel Morton?
- Will Higgins™
Do you wanna know why, this makes you feel odd Thomas....?
- Lizajane
Will, that makes me feel like not following Dr. Phil.
- Morton Fox
I'm feeling like I need some tough love counseling right now. I wonder if Dr. Phil will respond if I tweet him @drphil about my problems.
- Thomas Hawk
hey, he did add 187 followers since since he talked about his Twitter account on his show. That's alot in a few hours. Not too shabby.
- Thomas Hawk
I wonder if we could get Dr. Phil on FriendFeed. Maybe he could be the new face of social media. We could start calling him DrPhilbolizer. Maybe he and Scoble could put a few joint geek dinners together or something to show he really cares about the community.
- Thomas Hawk
Am I the only one who sees a playing card-like icon here? It's got the number 26 on top, 78 on the bottom. Can't imagine using that instead of 'RT'.
- Hutch Carpenter
I thought I heard that because Twitter measures in bytes and not characters it doesn't save a space. I think it's silly, personally.
- Jennifer Leggio
I commented on the post - I think this is a dumb idea, personally. It brings no benefits and may actually be a step backward.
- Mack D. Male
okay apparently that WON'T catch on. If people are having this much difficulty getting the symbol in the first place then it's dead in the water... unless each mobile/web Twitter app provides it as a button
- Glenn Batuyong
from twhirl
Yeah, can't see it and I'm sure many of us don't have a choice in the browser we use sometimes.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Unicode support sucks in XP. It works fine in Vista (from what I gather) and Windows 7. Doesn't work on iPhone or SMS so that's two more setbacks. It ain't gonna happen, although I love the idea. The symbol really catches the eye and distinguishes the tweet as a retweet.
- Bwana ☠
Frenchness is directly proportional to ones level of frenchitude.
- Will Higgins™
style, charm, and a bit of attitude, if you are Parisian. If not, then well...the term 'provencial' comes to mind, with all it's myriad meanings... :)
- Bren -- feeling merry
Lots of rich food, wine, and kisses on the cheek.
- Rochelle
Based on the French people I know? American-phile. Is that a word? I have no POR because all the French people I know can be dropped into any large city in the US and be at home.
- Admiral Anika
Frenchness is a combination of large quantities of butter, heavy cream, cigarette smoke, fine wine and fine art.
- Christian (Simply X)
rahulrrao: @loic Anything that's got a "le", "la" or "les" before it? :-)
- Loic Le Meur
Chris_normal Chris_Hougardy: @loic Something Scobble would like to attain but do not succeed ?? :)
- Loic Le Meur
bruceprokopets: @loic An American really wishes their sex partner had your accent. Your Frenchness is solely based on how Americans perceive your accent lol
- Loic Le Meur
ledretch: @loic we never agree, but we always do it! =D
- Loic Le Meur
1938media: @loic A quickness to surrender, bad humor, mice in hotels, insane restaurant owners. Pepe La Pew. and you, King of the Frenchies in my book.
- Loic Le Meur
N618057730_7834_normal sam_piroton: @loic frenchness = 2-hour lunch?
- Loic Le Meur
nancycole: @loic you're asking "us" about Frenchness? must be time for bed. at least for me. and perhaps the French.
- Loic Le Meur
mattcampagna: @loic Frenchness = Class, good taste, craftsmanship, superiority, arrogance, and charm. To me, anyway. I'm only 1/4 French :)
- Loic Le Meur
plasticbagUK: @loic "The quality of being mostly at war with the English"
- Loic Le Meur
shefaly: @loic Obsessed with slow food, argumentative, smart but under-rated in that area, warmer than Germans/ British but generally aloof.
- Loic Le Meur
alexanderhorre: @loic americans are full of themselves; frenchies are stuck up with themselves.
- Loic Le Meur
willhiggins: @loic Frenchness is directly proportional to ones level of frenchitude.
- Loic Le Meur
People who really know how to love life! Simple, elegant, smart, witty, lovers, passionate people. Also great cuisine!, cheese, wine, cafe shops, french bread, pastries, croissants! Parisian street scenes, lavender fields!!
- Susan Beebe
Wine. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. Unions & strikes. Roadside cafes. Art. I've never been to France though.
- Arvind
@loic Revolutions ! :) People really showing what they mean and rallying to Paris for anything:) Just my perception, but Frenchness when it comes to economy; solid industries but dependant on state support and hard to change around because of very strong and hardline unions. And principles! The best free healthcare.
- Thomas Bøhm
French... bimonthly cycles of burning tyres in the streets :)
- Prolific Programmer
dare I say: surrender ;-) before you attack me though, remember my great greandfather is burried in Bullecourt, and the day I day I'll remember my grandmother telling me how she lost him, and having full read his diaries.
- Duncan Riley
my wife's suggestion was hairy women, but that's probably not helpful. Inappropriate protesting and immigration policies come to mind though. So does the koran come to speak of it...given the demographic shift.
- Duncan Riley
Duncan it is not only helpful it is totally wrong. I have never seen one in France in 36 years.
- Loic Le Meur
Wine, food, cigarettes, and a disdain for all things American.
- Cyndy
Why, love, of course. Is there any other more apt description?
- Steven Perez
other very french things: 1) a love of good quality things combined with an paradoxical tendency to cut corners. 2) loving to hear oneself talk, and 3) complaining raised to an art form (I'm afraid I have that third one, as a french-swiss)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
When I think of France I think of footballing brilliance - not so much now, but that glorious team that won the World Cup and European Championship - with great flair and great players like Thuram and Barthez and Blanc and Henry, and most of all Zidane ...
- Patrick Jordan
Still trying to figure out how Jerry Lewis fits in to all this.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
1. Start a list of something outrageous. Tell some friends who seem to get lots of conversations going about it. Just tweet them with their twitter address like this: @scobleizer in the post.
- Robert Scoble
2. Comment on yet another Robert Scoble List
- Tyler (Chacha)
2. Comment on other people's threads first. Say smart stuff. Be funny, cute, interesting, etc. Or, throw the "bacon bomb" into the comments. Don't know what the Bacon Bomb is? Ask Mona on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Thanks for all these lists. I love the humor mixed with good tips. It's fun!
- Mitchell Tsai
3. Follow people who seem to always get conversations going. This is very important on friendfeed because you'll get a sense of what works for them. And, you'll be the first to see the big conversations before anyone else. First post in friendfeed always is seen more.
- Robert Scoble
Hello folks, today its I'm-Scoble-And-I'm-Going-To-Do-All-The-Talking day :)
- Yuvi
@Scobleizer "lists" work for everything, blog posts, microblog posts, grocery shopping... They're effective for starting conversation and getting things done. If anything - that's the "gimme" in this list.
- Enrique Gutierrez
I was SO tempted to comment "first!" when I saw this pop up at 43 seconds. Urge controlled.
- Phil G
Ask a specific (appropriately geeky) question
- Prunella
5. Look at "Best of Day" on friendfeed and ignore it.
- Robert Scoble
be authentic... we can tell when you are fishing for attention...
- Brian Roy
Robert: Are you making lists so people can meet each other and get followed?
- Tyler (Chacha)
6. If you are talking about stuff on Techmeme you are too late. That news is always an hour late. Instead, use http://www.techfuga.com and get into the conversations that are happening now.
- Robert Scoble
Agree with #2. You could also tell people you don't like Bacon. Mona will soon talk to you ;)
- Nicholas James
7. Rif on something smart that one of the smart people say. Dave Winer, Tim O'Reilly, Steve Gillmor, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Make a list of Top Tweets of 2008 and Send a message to everyone on that list telling them they are there. ;-) http://twurl.nl/tbo2ll
- David Petherick
Chacha: I'm making lists because I'm playing with a new form that is enabled by both Twitter and friendfeed. I call it "interactive blogging."
- Robert Scoble
8. Post a picture of bacon. But you've gotta put something unusual into it. A picture of Mike Arrington, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
9. Teach people how to do something new.
- Robert Scoble
10. Complaining that no one is paying attention to you on twitter or friendfeed might work. Once or twice. But then we remember that's all you do and that you aren't bringing any value. So, long term this will hurt you. Plus, there's always someone who is begging who has a better beg.
- Robert Scoble
Announce a list and let other ppl write it for you
- Trung Ly
I think Jim Rome's advice to callers to his show (so they don't get 'run') applies: "Have a take, don't suck."
- Patrick Jordan
11. Click "Like" on 100 new things that caught your eye. We do see that and we do notice that you're adding important meta data to the system. Even if we don't notice you'll have 100 new friendfeed items to comment on now. Just visit the "me" tab and then click on "Likes" over on the right side and you'll see them all.
- Robert Scoble
12. Have sex with someone who always has lots of comments. Have Duncan Riley post pictures!
- Robert Scoble
13. Get laid off. But have a great story. Even better? Start a room on friendfeed for people to talk with you about your future.
- Robert Scoble
You forgot about re-tweeting this post :)
- Jim Reynolds
Prunella gets it! It is easier to comment on things if you ask a question that is interesting!
- Robert Scoble
Challenge a high profile Twitterer who is incapable of not responding to critique. You'll get at least a few Tweets back & forth, probably mostly negative but people will know who you are and either think you're an inspired rebel or an ass.
- Liz
Don't participate in other people's threads but constantly complain how no one notices you!
- Mona Nomura
What about also admitting ignorance? I find that helps.
- Todd Jordan
14. Get someone who gets lots of comments to "Like" your item. This takes getting to know a few people and what they like. It also might mean giving them a phone call, sending them email, chatting with them on Facebook, or generally stalking them. Social media is great for stalking. I know everything that Guy Kawasaki and Tim O'Reilly are thinking due to social media. Hint, we're all egotistical baaahhhssstttaaarrrddddssss and we all look at our replies in Twitter. Just include @scobleizer in your tweet!!!
- Robert Scoble
hahahhahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!! <---laugh at all of Robert's jokes wiht a bajillion exclamation points to get noticed. Bonus points for wine!
- Mona Nomura
Todd: you're onto something there. Chris Pirillo does this. He asks his followers tech questions. I do to. "How do you backup your stuff?" got lots of comments because I needed to know what's the best way to do it. I was ignorant on the topic and my followers taught me (and everyone else).
- Robert Scoble
15. Say something outrageous like "Palm Pre kills the iPhone." Oh, wait, that's not outrageous, it's just a fact that hasn't been widely understood yet. Heheh. Seriously, take on Apple and you are almost guaranteed a conversation. You just gotta be prepared for the backlash.
- Robert Scoble
Today's list is looking a lot like last night's list. Why 20?
- Liz
Do you see why Mona gets more comments on her items than anyone else I know? Bing! Well, that and she posts GREAT pictures and little funny items.
- Robert Scoble
Robert? Regarding number two: It's Bacon Explosion, not bacon bomb!
- Mona Nomura
16. Post great pictures and funny little items like Mona.
- Robert Scoble
17. Baby photos. Louis Gray. Enough said.
- Robert Scoble
18. Tell a retweetable story. Chris Brogan has this down. Study what he is doing and do it better.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - he stepped up his baby picture game and cartoonized his photos. He raised the bar!!
- Mona Nomura
19. Hang out with people who get lots of conversations going. Go to lots of events where friendfeeders and twitterers hang out. Here's a list: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
20. ignore the conversation starters and people with many followers and go do something more interesting instead. It's better to have something to Twitter and Friendfeed ABOUT rather than hang around here worrying about it. Go live your life, Social Media will be here when you get back with something to say.
- Tim
Liz: if you do a list it doesn't matter how many items you promise as long as you get to the number you are promising. Something about lists is conversational. This is why magazines put numbers on their covers so often "7 ways to please your lover." Etc. Etc. If I were really smart I'd do a list like "7 ways Windows 7 will increase your sex life." Hah, that might be my next list!
- Robert Scoble
Tim: having something interesting to say is NOT a prerequisite for getting people to comment on your items. I have many examples of proof.
- Robert Scoble
20. Talk about Daft Punk and why they are or aren't the downfall of the next generation.
- Robert Scoble
It isn't Daft Punk anyway, they're just temps with masks.
- Tim
Got any others? Seriously, if you aren't getting noticed here it's probably because you are posting things that aren't conversational. I'm watching tons of inbound from everyone on this list and looking for things to engage with. You can see the items that I like here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
I love talking about how Daft Punk, Radiohead, and Coldplay suck and are nothing but three piece suit rock made safe for wussys. :P
- MarkCarras
True Robert, but at least you've gotten away from the computer and had a good time. This year I am going to dah dah! go outside and away from Social Media...live first, Social Media later. I am going to become the first Social Media Hermit (transitioning from Social Media Terrorist, as I am now). 2009 is about living your life...and creating it....which will generate FAR more ideas than monging around on t'Internets.
- Tim
21. Practice - try talking to people in the real world.
- Brian Roy
Daft Punk is definitely an innovator through its music and its marketing, whether one likes them or not
- Bertrand Doux
I always hear 80's New Wave when someone shows me a song that shows how "Innovative" they are. Sorry. Homogenized, sterilized, and watered down for the for the masses.
- MarkCarras
I wouldn't consider the posts between the bullets as highjackers. It's all part of the conversation and makes it so much more interesting as an interactive list than just a list of 20 things thrown out for our consumption.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
what if it's a disgruntled employee with access to the account? that would be even cooler
- Nathan Chase
ZOMG - take it to the Really Gay Room. On second thought, we don't really want Bill O Riley - keep him here on the home thread.
- Sparky
41 minutes and counting. It's on TC now. You think somebody's home at Fox News?
- Jared Smith
I think it's a fake account. I saw one the other day for 20th Century Fox talking about how no one wants to see the Watchmen movie and how "great" some of their crappy movies have been. There's also a fake Michael Bay one floating around.
- James Ferguson
oh there's nothing funnier than the thought of papa bear o'reilly gettin it up the rear from some big hairy queeny guy...i love it :-)
- Cardeen Martinez
I am sure the country of France appreciates it. Maybe they can have an official declaration of forgiveness? Maybe Loic, as the web ambassador, can work on this for you.
- Pascal Sijen
I took screenshots of the person following everyone. Now to take SS of all the crap the person is saying. I'm making a hashtag for everything about this. #lorenwatch
- Tyler (Chacha)
Erica, abso-fricking-lutely. Much more than I'd trust it to a tiny mom & pop web shop to safeguard my credit card and other info. The browser plugin might only get the one-time card #, not the my real card number. Would I trust the plugin more if it came from a big/reputable company? Sure. But in the Omaha airport, the wifi wanted my credit card and didn't have have SSL turned on--and yes, it was the official provider. So I'd totally use this plugin to buy tons more stuff.
- Matt Cutts
Have you tried Virtual Account Number from Citibank (http://tr.im/2rdw)? I used that in the past and I loved the VAN generation aspect but I haven't used the autofill feature -- every time I needed a new credit card number, I generated it and manually entered it on the shopping web site.
- Michal Cierniak
I'd settle for Schwab giving me a physical credit card with an LCD screen and a keypad that I could use to generate a one-time # on the fly. As it is now that I only use Amazon or sites that accept PayPal or Google Checkout.
- DeWitt Clinton
Paypal itself has a virtual debit card in beta with will let you use paypal with sites that don't support it using a one-time number.
- Robin Barooah
I believe the CCs are moving away from the one time numbers - amex killed them and i hear citi is moving that way too - i really liked the program
- Allen Stern
Allen, that's surprising. Do you have any idea of why one-time CC numbers might be falling out of favor?
- Adam Lasnik
+1 on the Citibank solution, but needs to be available generically for the major CCs
- Joshua Allen
I'm pretty sure the PayPal plugin does this, but the last time I checked it was Windows-only (so I've never used it). The screenshot at https://www.paypal.com/us... shows a "generate secure card" button.
- Laurence Gonsalves
Citibank's system is a nice idea, but it's too much work to use. The whole point is to prevent a tremendous amount of hassle if my numbers get stolen, but the likelihood of that is low, and meanwhile I'm just amortizing that inconvenience across all my transactions. Do I really come out ahead? A browser plugin that made me log in just once ever and that could autofill -- that would be a win. I'm not sure what the point of paypal or G checkout is.
- Seth
PayPal's plugin does this, works at non-PayPal sites, etc. but requires that you fund PayPal from your bank checking account - not from another credit card. In other words, no rewards!
- Scott Loftesness
What's wrong with Technorati? Still a pretty solid way to see other blogs in your niche if you ask me. Google-Twitter actually seems plausible. Something about that service probably screams Adsense to someone at Google. Look what G is doing to Feedburner.
- beersage
Google already bought Jaiku. Seems to me Twitter is more like Upcoming, Delicious and Flickr. People powered Web 2.0 goodness.
- Sam Pullara
Beersage, what Google is doing to Feedburner is adsensing it, which might make sense to Google, but it certainly does not make revenue sense to publishers. At least in my experience.
- Julio Alonso
@Sam, and who bought Upcoming, Delicious and Flickr.... oh wait ;)
- Dion Almaer
Will they after that abuse Twitter liked they abused Jaiku?
- Rutger Blom
Any "inside" information from FriendFeed? Do they have connection with the old place, Google? I thought that Ev Williams's post on Blogger was interesting. http://evhead.com/2008...
- Martin Lindeskog
Dion has a point. Yahoo needs somthing to be proud about. Twitter seems to be the perfect company for Yahoo to buy. Closer integration between Twitter and Upcoming, Delicious and Flickr as well as the indirect MSFT connection.....
- Roberto Bonini
@Roberto, the only problem with that is, Yahoo has enough of its own problems, and it doesn't need to inherit the problems with twitter. Feature issue, monetization, competition, and expansion of service is only a few problems Twitter will face in 2009. Google is better placed to handle these challenges and will help twitter increase traffic.
- Bob Blunk
Seems to me that Google buying Twitter means just getting their user DB, api endpoint, and domain name, because in all likelihood, they'd immediately toss about the implementation, and rearchitect. It might be worth it, if Google could kill off microblog/IM walled gardens, and get us back to federated open solutions, twitter being another huge walled garden. My personal opinion is, if blog RSS feeds and SMTP aren't centralized, why do we put up with centralized IM and microblog networks?
- Ray Cromwell
True. Why buy trouble? But Yahoo does need some fresh blood, new thinking. it might work.
- Roberto Bonini
@Ray, you are Right! The lack of interoperability and cross platform compatibility is starting to wear on me. We need a better way to aggregate comments. Comments from one platform to another don't thread well, and in other cases, not at all. Why if I post a comment on Disqus is it not threaded to the correct conversation on FF? And why is every twitter the start of a new thread on FF?
- Bob Blunk
The article this links to actually has much more interesting predictions than the Google/Twitter thing.
- mike fabio
from twhirl
@Bob, the irony is, in the good 'ol days prior to web browsers, we had federated discussion networks: Mailing lists/SMTP, USENET/NNTP, and IRC. There was no need to have 37 different logins, no need to check 37 different sites. You ran ELM/PINE/etc, RN/TRN, or an irc client, and stuff just worked. Nowadays everything is so much more balkanized. We should return to the days of designing federated protocols and resist walling and standardizing on website properties before the protocols are settled.
- Ray Cromwell
@Ray I like where you're going with that idea. I have 60 passwords saved on diff. sites and would like to....reduce that. OpenID is a start but the tip of the iceberg.
- beersage
@beersage, I agree. OpenID, OAuth, PortableContacts/OpenSocial, get us part of the way there. There's still the issue of routing/store-and-forward, referrals, and dealing with non-Web clients. For example, on the iPhone, it means a native app has to launch a web browser UI to grant access, this could be more problematic for set-top box devices like an Apple TV.
- Ray Cromwell
His clarity of thought and laser focus are something else!
- vijay
Talk about a blast from the past. At my last company, someone took a next box and turned it into a fish bowl.
- Greg
One of the most interesting things about the NeXT OS at that time is how similar is to the current Mac OS X. Just a small example. When you attach a file on an email it appears located in the exact location you choose and not at the bottom (like in Windows).
- Martin Añazco
@Martin. Whoa!, I love simple details and touches like that!
- vijay
know a lot of friends who lost their shirts with Next... bad business model as ever...
- jfayel
Steve's first attempt at convincing a 2nd person that if a deskop computer was packaged inside a cube, that would make it awesome awesome. Do you think he'll have a 3rd try? (The iPod Shuffle doesn't quite count.)
- j1m
I can barely recognize him. Luckily, the "uniform" has remained consistent!
- Heidi Moon
He got the transition to database apps, connectivity, and the need for easy to write custom apps right, although it was the web that really changed the game here, not any particular hardware.
- Loren Heiny
@Martin - It's not an accident that if you look through the Darwin Open Source code, or at some of the header files on a Mac OS X box that you'll find several NeXT copyright headers, either.
- Tyson Key
@j1m: I'm waiting for the iPhone Nano, the 1 inch cube that will sit on a necklace. It will transmit audio over your collarbone. And it will light up to let others know you're talking on the phone.
- Amit Patel
+1 Bwana, plus it really needs a design overhaul to slicken it up...i just can't be on there too long as it is now.
- Zee.
Now that they added the ability to auto-submit from your GR shared feed, that pretty much takes care of 90% of the work for me. Now I can browse and clip at my leisure. And I am noticing more commentary happening on clippings as well.
- Phil G
LOL yeah, I guess I should have said gReader. Ah well.
- Phil G
Oh! I hadn't ever used that abbreviation before! duh. ;)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Social Median is really coming along. The new Facebook app will really help to spur adoption. My e-mail in box was flooded this morning with new connections. And just think, it's only been six months since we helped launch them. It's a great feature race. Find me here: http://www.socialmedian.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
Agreed Louis. I'm going to try to play with the FB app as well. My link on s|m is http://www.socialmedian.com/eng1ne .. anyone else out there want to share your socialmedian profile link?
- Phil G
wow louis -- you are really popular! serious, that flickr image of your in-box is crazy.
- Jason Goldberg
Everyone on this thread -- FYI -- I'm here and monitor this religiously. Feel free to ask me any question directly and to give us suggestions on how to make socialmedian work even better for you.
- Jason Goldberg
Thanks Phil, I'll give it another whirl...
- Bill Sanders
Hey Gregory -- we're testing lightbox vs. other messages for that initial suggestion to connect facebook and socialmedian.
- Jason Goldberg
When do we get an AIR app or Twhirl support so I can track it like I do FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
Phil -- thanks for the original post on this. and keep pushing us to make it better.
- Jason Goldberg
The endless Social Median pimping is one of my least favourite things on FriendFeed lately.
- Chuck LeDuc Díaz
Chuck, fwiw I posted this as an honest reaction. It is a coincidence (or perhaps other people tried s|m after seeing this post). In any case, that is what the hide function is for.
- Phil G
We're just glad that we're starting to make some sense now ;-)
- Jason Goldberg
73 days later their purchased, that's one for the text books!
- Michael Fidler
from twhirl
SocialMedian's user experience is awful. I can't see myself using it until that's fixed.
- Mark Trapp
SocialMedian's OK, after playing with it for some time, but I still prefer FriendFeed any day.
- Tyson Key
Mark, I posted this a while back. I will say that FriendFeed still captivates me for longer periods and more regularly than SM. SM is fun but the blush is not off the FF rose yet.
- Phil G
Phil: I just noticed that, Michael Fidler bumped a months old topic :-/ I know SM has been focusing on features, but UX really can't be ignored as it has been. FriendFeed is a good example of focusing on the UX instead of adding features that works. Lots of features missing that people want, but we all keep coming back because it's a joy to be in.
- Mark Trapp
"Nice post Dennis.I follow more people on FriendFeed than I do on Twitter. How is that possible? Lists. Don’t underestimate the power of those. I spend my workdays monitoring my own hand-crafted Enterprise 2.0 List (you, being a social media maven…uh…collaboration thinker, are on my List). I’ve got 45 individuals on the List right now. And I’ve turned off the friend-of-friend feature for that List. So that’s a relatively small number of people. Call that Part 1 of my Enterprise 2.0 List. Part 2 comes from tracking keywords. I set up a Room on FriendFeed that tracks tweets and Del.icio.us bookmarks related to Enterprise 2.0 (http://friendfeed.com/rooms...): enterprise 2.0, e2.0, social software, social computing. Now I’m tracking a much larger number of people, but only for topics I care about. My Enterprise 2.0 List thus is…all content by a select few, select content by all. Final touch for all this? Pop that List into its own real-time window. FriendFeed’s real-time is..."
- Hutch Carpenter
@Hutch Carpenter. Looks like I've got a lot more to learn!
- Rob Cooke
Rob - there's a tremendous use case for FriendFeed as a tool for tracking things you're interested in (on top of the social network aspects). The tools FriendFeed provides are great for managing the consumption of information from anywhere.
- Hutch Carpenter
Gregory - only if you were "aware" of it...
- Hutch Carpenter