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Report: Apple pushed Intel to develop Light Peak cabling — RoughlyDrafted Magazine - http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009...
"Magazine"
- Ron George
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Firefox crashes every minute or so since I installed Snow Leopard. I think it is an issue with Flash. Does anyone know how to fix the problem? Browsing the internet is somewhat important for my job it turns out...
chaz2b, Mahendra (SkepticGeek), Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ and 4 other people liked this
up the memory alocation in the browser safari or firefox to to 500 mb
- A.Karriem A. Khan
Flash has major issues - I was seeing the same with Safari. Upgrading Flash seems to have fixed it, for now.
- Jesse Stay
problems went away for me after removing /library/application support/firefox and /library/preference/firefox. But need to reinstall plugins
- Wai Seto
I wish Flash wasn't so pervasive. I love streaming video, etc, but Flash is so crappy at least on OS X and Linux. It is the cause of nearly 100% of the problems I have with a browser.
- Travis B. Hartwell
I haven't had a problem, but you did upgrade Flash after snow leopard, right? http://www.macworld.com/article...
- David Vasileff
perhaps a little thing called Windows 7 might cure what ails you?
- Ron George
Forgive my ignorance, but if this post is "from Facebook", why doesn't it start "Bret..." Is there something other than status updates that posts here?
- Bruce Lewis
if you just updated the thing then forget it. I had such an issue with the upgrade. Once I did a clean wipe / install... BOOM completely awesome
- Braden Douglass
Empathy and Emotionally intelligent signage - http://rongeorge.com/design...
of course I have to share this, it's me. :)
- Ron George
Microsoft's secret 'screw Google' meetings in D.C. -- DailyFinance - http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009...
ovigia, Tony Manco, Simon and 9 other people liked this
I'm sure they were just talking about how best to serve users
- Adewale Oshineye
That's another reason why Google should keep a low profile.
- Jérôme Flipo
I am unaware of these meetings, but I have one question. Where is the lovveeeeeeee? That hurt Adewale, :(
- Ron George
Move Over Jonathan Ive, Hear comes Jon Doe - http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/2009...
Wonderful post, ;)
- Ron George
Finally A Great Multitouch Keyboard. - http://www.pointanddo.com/2009...
Its just pressure sensitive keys. Nothing really that special... still same form factor.
- Ron George
Hey Jonathan, how are you? Long time no see. I left Surface and went over to E&D, CSS.... what an amazing team.
Oh, specializing in NUI Interfaces of course. :)
- Ron George
Apple Testing Two Tablets, Preparing For Touch Evolution - http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-t...
... One of Apple's prototype devices is able to run all Mac applications, and allows for video and audio editing and graphic animation, Doherty says. Another, which looks like a larger iPod, lends itself to watching videos, playing games, and reading e-books.
- Ron George
mock-up for my IxD final project. still working on the "view: all artists" mode! albums and artists are taggable. artist and album visuals are standard, but images for songs can be customized with pictures of what the songs remind you of! when a song is playing, a timeline ring will appear around the song node (if i can figure out flash...)
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What is your final project?
- joey
it was really open ended. we are supposed to make some kind of music management system. he wanted us to avoid the typical list view format. so mine is a node based player. and when you make playlists you can drag the nodes around and make new links. it's supposed to be an exploratory browser that lets you tell stories about your own music. also, i was thinking that there could be a...
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- Alexis Hope
I love it!
- joey
thanks! :D this has been one of my favorite classes ever. i'm going to take the rest of the IxD classes in the design department for my TC concentration! one of them is another studio course, and the other one involves working on something for the microsoft design expo.
- Alexis Hope
That's really awesome. You are making me want to go graduate school right now.
- joey
Nice project. The one thing I like is that its ready to be NUI-fied. I would love to see some storyboards or the final animation to get the feel of it. If this were on a zooming canvas you could show associations on touch and some rich passive interactions on song play as well. I also love the requirements you were given.. which were to stay away from the typical list view, which I...
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- Ron George
About your flash problem... try using a progress bar shaped like a ring as an animation and OnPress begin the animation.
- Ron George
thanks for the feedback and the flash tip, ron! i also found some really interesting stuff on your blog earlier today. as for this project, we only had a week or so to flesh out this idea (summer quarter goes too fast), but i plan on working on storyboards and a more sophisticated animation after the quarter ends. i've never worked with photoshop or flash before, but continuing with this project will be a good way for me to develop those skills since i'm already feeling inspired :)
- Alexis Hope
Ballmer Confirms Windows 7 Starter Restrictions | Windows 7 News - http://windows7news.com/2009...
Windows 7 Starter Windows 7 Starter has been specifically designed by Microsoft for the low end market that includes most netbooks and other PC hardware that has to be sold for the cheapest price possible. The main reason for this edition is to provide manufacturers with a Windows 7 edition that they can put cost effectively on their low end products. Windows 7 Starter has caused lots...
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- Ron George
Digsby vs. Trillian Astra. I used to use Trillian, now I use Digsby. Aside from the questionable bundlings w/ Digsby, any compelling reasons to switch to or even try out Trillian? I'm pretty happy with Digsby and am not a power IM'er.
One potential benefit of Astra is the online access, which -- I'm assuming -- would keep my usergroupings intact. Any other pros or cons?
- Adam Lasnik
I had Astra when it was still in Alpha. I loved it. I could never take to Digsby, which in comparison, I hated.
- Jaemi Kehoe
from IM
any particular aspects of Digsby that really drove you nuts?
- Adam Lasnik
It just seemed so...loud....in comparison. Even though I technically use everything it incorporates, rather than finding it helpful I found it intrusive. Even on a 24" screen. On the Mini 9 there was no way I could even think about it. Astra was just kind of ramped up, prettier, slightly more feature rich Trillian. It did what I wanted and didn't get in my way.
- Jaemi Kehoe
from IM
Ah, so mostly UI. Interesting. Thanks! :)
- Adam Lasnik
Used to recommend Digsby until I read this: http://yro.slashdot.org/story...
- Tanath
I use digsby since it has a neat website chat widget that enables my websites users to chat me anonymously and without logging in, it also has a powerful notifier for inbox emails that enables me to trash, spam or archive each email without opening it (just a little snippet is needed to understand what's inside). @Tanath it was clearly stated in the last release: the one that you mention is just an option to support digsby that can be disabled when you want. Also
- righini riprova
Righini: Google Talk has that too. http://www.google.com/talk... And you can use filters to direct incoming email as well.
- Tanath
Lifehacker VS. Digsby - The public trial is now opened at AllRise community court. Join in to influence the verdict http://bit.ly/AllRise238
- AllRise
Interesting that no one mentioned Pidgin. I use pidgin and love it. OS with a very active dev community and lots of features.
- Ron George
@rongeorge I like pidgin, used it for a while :)
- righini riprova
from IM
Trillian Astra is completely skinnable and includes two extra skins, Cobalt and Cobalt Minimal. Cobalt provides a more classic Trillian look while Cobalt Minimal takes up very little space. Most people don't realize how flexible Trillian's SkinXML engine is. This means that you can change most of the UI just by changing the skin. There is also "theme" support which changes a particular...
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- andy magoon
I cannot wait to try OneNote 2010! I'm lukewarm (at best) on the rest o' the Office suite, but OneNote is amazing!
Владимир liked this
Any other OneNote fans out there? And yes, I primarily use Evernote now, but that's due to my dislike of OneNote's search options and OneNote's flakey support of network drives. OneNote 2010 looks like it should fix at least the latter, with storage in the cloud + full web access. I'm very impressed with the OneNote team, and expect this'll be an awesome release :)
- Adam Lasnik
Why?
- EricaJoy
Erica, you'll have to be a bit more specific. Why is OneNote amazing? Why do I think it's amazing? Why am I asking if there are other OneNote fans out there? Or...? :)
- Adam Lasnik
Why you cannot wait to try OneNote.
- EricaJoy
Ah! I already use OneNote 2007, and find it to be an elegantly simple and powerful note taking / outlining program, better by far than any other I've ever tried in my life. I used to use it on a tablet computer, and its handwriting recognition was also pretty darn good. And it even handily OCR'd images, so if you scanned in a business card and put in in a note, you could easily do a...
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- Adam Lasnik
Microsoft UXDesigner cat is watching you Adam! ;) haha. In all seriousness OneNote 2010 is amazing. They made some great strides in directions that several of us have been pushing towards throughout the company for years. Simplicity. There are now many things that you can streamline in it and hide from view. Let me know if you want me to throw your name in the hat to beta test it. We have already started conversations around 15/16 and I think its going to be even better. :)
- Ron George
The universe keeps reminding me I am using Twitter too much. How? My app keeps hitting the API limit. Sigh.
Daniel Rowley, Morton Fox, John (a.k.a. dendroica) and 8 other people liked this
Just come over to FriendFeed :)
- Eric Florenzano
Yeah. I keep getting reminded why I like FriendFeed so much.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I want the universe to tell me stuff, too. How do you do it?
- adam garrett
Adam: it is telling you things you just have to listen.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Time to come back to Friendfeed...
- Jeff P. Henderson
maybe just tweet between your accounts Robert & blog
- polou/indigo_bow
Dave Winer said to tell you to write a blog post and something about better whisky.
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Robert I listen to Michio Kaku. Is there a difference?
- adam garrett
That's most likely because the Twitter API is still having issues from the DDoS
- Jesse Stay
The universe is really telling you its time to write another blog post ;)
- Nicholas James
Jeff: heh, I think I will do a blog instead.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
arent you in Seattle now? Going to come by campus?
- Ron George
Hey, Jerry Brown said several decades ago that we live in an era of limits. But I don't think he was thinking about Twitter API calls and Facebook friend numbers.
- John E. Bredehoft
Wrong Twitter app. ;) P.S. Search and outbound tweets don't count last I checked.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The universe is telling you to send me free stuff. :)
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
from Android
So do what all grown ups do. Move to the next best thing :-). Forget twitter. It's obviously never going to be perfect. Might as well transbord to the next ship.
- Richard A.
#sxsw panel voting: “Interfaces beyond Mice and Keyboard” http://bit.ly/Qerxj and Adobe’s sessions (with @kylnch) - http://bit.ly/adbesxsw - http://trail.digitalbackcountry.com/post...
the first link isnt working | edit - it was just the dns, works now
- Ron George
My blog was just hacked into. You MUST upgrade your Wordpress to avoid being hacked. We fixed my version.
Shivanand Velmurugan, Mitchell Tsai, Christopher Golda and 55 other people liked this
Yeah, this is why I wouldn't touch Wordpress with a 10-foot pole for our stuff.
- Andru Edwards
what version were you using that got comprimised?
- Ron George
I assume he was using 2.8.3. They released 2.8.4 today to fix the vulnerability in 2.8.3
- Alan Hoskins
saw a report about this and just updated my blogs
- Rachel Clarke
also, love that Friendfeed now has the 'comment' button at the bottom even when viewing as part of stream,A change that happened in the last few days
- Rachel Clarke
I upgraded mine to 2.8.4 this morning, and then later saw a report about the 2.8.3 vulnerability.
- Joey Gibson
It's a pain in the butt, but I upgraded all of my sites this morning.
- Derek Coward
yikes
- Mike
Alan: it was worse than that. We were still on 2.7x.
- Robert Scoble
Someone might want to warn the Techcrunch blog(s), they appear to be on 2.7.1 still.
- Mo Kargas
No, don't tell Techcrunch, they are too busy reporting on stuff.
- Alex Scoble
Any who has a following should let any of their Wordpress friends know about this. As I understand this flaw doesn't give the hacker access to the blog, just changes the password to mess with the owner.
- Keith Rowland
"Yesterday a vulnerability was discovered: a specially crafted URL could be requested that would allow an attacker to bypass a security check to verify a user requested a password reset. As a result, the first account without a key in the database (usually the admin account) would have its password reset and a new password would be emailed to the account owner." - Wordpress.org
- Keith Rowland
Mo: oh, boy.
- Robert Scoble
I did today too and it was easier than usual, except my FTP client kept timing out. New hosting anyone?
- Aron Michalski
Yikes.
- DGentry
Thanks for the heads up, I upgraded
- Mark Essel
I tried calling Arrington, he didn't pick up the phone. Oh well. I did leave him a message.
- Robert Scoble
Does anybody use Thesis and if you do how do you like it? I'm considering purchasing a Thesis to update my old blog.
- Jeunelle Foster
I use Thesis on four blogs. It is well worth it. I ran K2 before that, which was good, but the things you can do with openhook on Thesis takes it to another class.
- david
Wow...
- Helen Sventitsky
Sounds like a pretty benign vulnerability. Sounds like the Wordpress maintainers are doing a good job, especially considering it's PHP.
- Bruce Lewis
Thanks David, you just helped me to decide. I am getting Thesis :)
- Jeunelle Foster
I just upgraded. Thanks a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Upgrade to what?
- Suzen Sam
folks Scoble was running WordPress 2.7 with Thesis theme like a ton of blogs out there! Thesis is cool.
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
time to upgrade WP 2.7x to the latest version
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I upgraded both my blogs tonite.
- Mark Krynsky
Done and done
- WorldofHiglet
I don't personally use Wordpress currently but for the "we wouldn't touch wordpress etc.." crew, what makes you think your choice of CMS/blog is any more secure? Even if you use static HTML, http servers can still sometimes be exploited. Being complacent about security because you chose some other software, is almost recklessly naive.
- dannystaple
Bummer. This happened to me in April. Someone hacked into one of my Wordpress accounts and dismantled my blog completely. I'm pretty tired of updating and maintaining my Wordpress sites. It's a constant task. Typepad has actually been the most headache free platform in my experience. Squarespace is sounding pretty good these days though. Maybe I'll go totally minimalist and just do the Posterous thing.
- Richard Merritt
It's a little easier with the the in admin update tool. Would be nice if it could do it automatically though
- James Tenniswood
The "vulnerability" found the other day was more of an annoyance, really. It didn't offer a way into the site, just a way to reset the password and mail the new password to the admin.
- Otto
Thanks for the heads up. Sorry it happened.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Richard: or you could switch to a managed wordpress.com blog and import all your posts easily. then you dont have to worry about upgrading. A upgraded Wordpress.com site is better than a squarespace site IMO.
- Logan Lindquist
From what I understand the admin password vuln isn't that big a deal because they would need access to your email as well and if they have that your already screwed.
- Logan Lindquist
Everyone managing a wordpress site sign up for the RELEASE NOTIFICATION here. http://wordpress.org/download/
- Logan Lindquist
This once more raises the question: is wordpress really worth all the hassles? It's far from the clean, intuitive system it once was, as anyone who has tried to show someone how to use it to build and maintain a reasonably full featured solution will find out.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I'm sorry to hear you were hacked. Yes, I upgraded to 2.8.4 when I read about the vulnerabilities.
- Shevonne
"my FTP client kept timing out." - Have you tried the automatic updater in the control panel?
- John Craft
Joelle: its not a hassle. yes its worth it. if you dont like managing the upgrades pay for a wordpress.com.
- Logan Lindquist
what do you mean hacked? 2.8.3 only meant someone could do something that reset your password and emailed it to you (happened to me) but they wouldnt know your password. (this all assuming you were on 2.8.3?)
- Paul Stamatiou
Paul: well, I was on 2.7x and someone reset my password AND posted some porn links into a blog post of mine.
- Robert Scoble
Done. Thanks for the heads up.
- Chris Nixon
MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching the Zombieland Trailer - http://www.megavideo.com/...
Yes, the mix of Matrix photography and comedy is awesome.
- Ron George
from Bookmarklet
A Google easter egg for people who know what recursion is: http://www.google.com/search... :)
siva s, Brandon Titus, bellegarde-webb and 113 other people liked this
It also works in German: http://www.google.de/search...
- Matt Cutts
Recursion :)
- alfred westerveld
Love it!
- Alexey Ivanov
from iPhone
Works in French as well: http://www.google.fr/search... !
- Denis (aka HawkEye)
I kept hitting it repeatedly hoping something new would happen. It didn't :)
- mike fabio
yeah would be cool if it changed to 'did you mean stack overflow' if you refreshed enough
- Private Sanjeev
Hah! Recursive searches in Google. That's cute!
- Peter Murray
Wow! Very funny! :)
- Peter
Does not work for Turkish: http://www.google.com/search...
- Ahmet Yükseltürk
Private Sanjeev - *laugh*
- Andrew C
love it.
- Ron George
Subtle yet amazing!
- Veetrag
Private Sanjeev ... yea now that would be cool easter egg :)
- Bhowmik Shah
lol
- Rick Cogley
Did you mean recursion? LOL! http://www.google.com/search...
- Jordi Rosell
A friendfeed easter egg for those who know what recursion is: http://friendfeed.com/mattcut...
- Tanath
Ha ha, Tanath!
- Rick Cogley
Awesome!
- Ladybug Heather
LOL @ Tanath!
- Ladybug Heather
This reminds me of the index in PRIMOS user manuals. The entry for "circular reference" is "see recursion". The entry for "recursion" is "see circular reference". (PRIMOS is the operating system used on Prime Computers in 70's and early 80's)
- Gary Burd
Gary, I haven't used PRIMOS since like 8th grade. I love that someone else remembers PRIMOS. I learned on a PRIMOS system before I went to college and discovered Unix.
- Matt Cutts
Good stuff. Note though that (at least for me), you don't get the easter egg from following the link. You have to post the query from the search page itself. Then, BINGO. Also, well played, Tanath :)
- Micah Wittman
this one post sent me down SO MANY rabbit trails on math heh
- Tyler Gillies
What's recursion?
- Christian (Simply X)
What's recursion?
- Christian (Simply X)
It's alive: Steve Jobs greenlights a 10-inch Apple tablet for Q1 2010 launch – Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com - http://www.geek.com/article...
Huge news.
- Ron George
from Bookmarklet
Lots of people liked this building43 how to Facebook video: http://www.building43.com/videos... . I would love to do more of these. Got any ideas?
aybars badur, Mark Essel, Laura Norvig and 9 other people liked this
Anyone want to come on building43 and teach other people how to do something for the 2010 web?
- Robert Scoble
I would love to
- Robert Burgin
Burgin: what would you like to teach us?
- Robert Scoble
I would be interested in hearing a business talk about how they implement Amazon's Business Services - http://www.amazonservices.com/ - especially their Webstore product http://www.amazonservices.com/content...
- Mike Bracco
Mike: that would be a good topic!
- Robert Scoble
I'd like to see more Open Source developers - Evan Prodromeau, David Recordon, Matt Mullenweg, guys at RedHat, MySQL, etc.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that would make me more popular with the Linux guys at Rackspace too! Good ideas.
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see a video of you making the most of our 'social networking' time. I dont have the time to keep up with all the services, but do want to share bookmarks, reader links, blogs, and status...but which ones to choose and why? If I see another "share this on ____ " bookmarklet I'll flip out. I'm starting to lean towards FF, FB, and Google Profile/Reader. I can share bundles and links on my public page... but hmmm.
- Ron George
and Robert, I'm always happy to teach anything - I could share Twitter development, Facebook development, FriendFeed development, or even writing for the SocialToo API. :-)
- Jesse Stay
How to talk to girls? Sure could use that.
- Matthew DeVries
Ron: yeah, I really need to do another one of those. I'll try to do that this weekend. Jesse: are you going to be in SF anytime soon? Matthew: my son needs that one! Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, possibly, with a client of mine, soon. Still not sure on details though. I will be at BlogWorld Expo almost for sure though if you'll be out there.
- Jesse Stay
Robert: Another topic would be using Google Apps to replace an IT Dept for a small company. I know many of us geeks take it for granted but many small businesses don't know the great tools that Google offers for free or just $50/user as part of Google Apps. I implemented Google apps at the startup I work for and use them as our mail server, shared calendars etc...
- Mike Bracco
Well, I work at MSFT I can take a video of a tour around campus? I think I met you once when you were at Ch9, but not sure. I work in the new buildings.. or what I like to call, Little Bellevue Mall.
- Ron George
I'd like to see you record Louis Gray's social workflow :-)
- Jesse Stay
Ron: I'd love to film you giving me a tour. I'll be in Seattle in August for Gnomedex.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: +1 on LG workflow :)
- Mike Bracco
WordPress is a pretty popular choice for websites these days, maybe some videos around that? "WordPress for Businesses"
- Bryce Roney
Scoble: Would love to also here from Guy and Alltop - he is always really interesting to listen to.
- Mike Bracco
Web analytics using google analytics
- Ruchit Garg
Using wordpress to build great websites
- Ruchit Garg
Video tour of microsoft's new entertainment hub, sparkling studio west campus
- Ruchit Garg
How to use windows azure services to build scalable global web services
- Ruchit Garg
Robert, sounds like a plan. Ill take you around the 4 new studio buildings with the insane open air cafeteria, mini mall... complete with wireless providers, soccer field, and live entertainment. Drop me a line, ron@rongeorge.com. I'll be here. Maybe get you an interview with Natal or some other 'incubation' products if you like/we can. I can send out feelers this week.
- Ron George
Ron, while he's out there you need to get him an interview with the Mobile and Zune teams. I'd like to get a feel at where you are going there. I know that's a big thorn in the side for Microsoft (I have friends that work there).
- Jesse Stay
Mobile is looking fantastic. I just was reading through the top secret stuff today. Love it. I'm in the Adv Design Team.. we all came from Surface, Mobile, etc. Actually doing some good things for the company as a whole.. and they are listening. Its great.
- Ron George
Ron did you ever do any work with Joel Dehlin while he was over the Surface team?
- Jesse Stay
Robert, let me know if you would be interested covering casual games business(win 7 internet games, MSN Games, messenger games) and PC games (GFWL) which I have worked on and some cool facebook, twitter apps on xbox.
- Ruchit Garg
We ought to take a small business, like your brother's bar, is it near you? and do a case study applying these tools to it.
- Stephen Pickering
Jesse, I don't know Joel. Ask him if he knows me. He would remember me for sure. Loud mouth Interaction Designer that is 6'6" tall and always telling jokes. :) The people I didnt really have much contact with were core engineering and visual engineering. I was more on the design/scrum/looking forward side.
- Ron George
Ron, sure thing - I'll ask him next time I see him. He's CIO for the LDS church now - I talk to him occasionally.
- Jesse Stay
@Mike - We have some more Guy Kawasaki coming very soon. I think you'll like it.
- Rob La Gesse
Is anyone still updating their Google Profiles? http://www.google.com/profile... - http://www.google.com/profile...
Is anyone still updating their Google Profile?
- Ron George
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Does anyone care about the new Yahoo homepage changes coming tomorrow? Twitter and Facebook have incompetent competition. Sigh. Bing indeed!
MiaD, Darren Heydon, Robert Sanchez Jr and 39 other people liked this
I do, it is like yahoo is my first love =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
Google should worry more about Bing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
who cares?
- Madhav Tripathi
What's this Yahoo you talk about?
- Chris Mayer
Yahoo still has a homepage?
- James Watters
Chris the news is all over Techmeme.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
ahh c'mooon these are low blows, tho funny =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
yahoo is late.
- Rachael Depp
I don't use Yahoo, only goolge
- Mostafa Lameei
Robert, just kidding! That's how much I use Yahoo
- Chris Mayer
yeah i love google :)
- Rachael Depp
Ozgur: someone cares. Yahoo still gets 300 million visits a month. But not me.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Compuserve has a new homepage too. It says "Out of Business" - Yahoo probably has that one in QA.
- drew olanoff
Yeah I was wondering , yahoo still has a page? (kidding) nice one @james.
- Omar
What's Yahoo? Oh! Isn't that that chocolate drink? Tasty stuff....
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
My home page is Seesmic Twitter Ap, and Google reader.
- James Watters
I use Yahoo Finance but thats about it
- Kiran Patchigolla
"When competitors fight,customers win" http://blogs.zoho.com/general... Go Figure!
- Ajay Nair
Robert, what's your iPhone ff app of choice? I've been using motherfeed. it's workable
- Omar
There is an iphone app for FF?!
- Rachael Depp
Omar: Safari
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Same pig, new lipstick. I have no loyalty - even tho I have 10 yrs worth of pre-gmail email saved there.
- Penelope Mudd
there are so many wildly smart people there. hope they are able to focus.
- michael sean wright
The soviet union had wildly smart people as well, but the wrong framework...
- James Watters
ahhh. thanks Robert. Hadn't actually tried it from there. shows you how much I come around. making an effort, I do enjoy the concept here - almost like a collaborative IRC on steroids. @Robert
- Omar
nicefishfilms: it took Microsoft six years to get Bing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You mean it will get a big M$ logo?
- Rutger Blom
from iPhone
Yahoo doesn't have that long.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Don't care. I use My Yahoo! and Yahoo! Sports sometimes, but never the home page. But my wife may notice.
- Louis Gray
I agree Robert. I think Yahoo's final days are ahead.
- Omar
Unless they innovate quite out of the box.
- Omar
My mom uses Yahoo, so there. Actually, I use Yahoo movies and Flickr. Don't count Yahoo out.
- Gus
Yahoo's charter was simple, to show you all of the web's best content; life has changed, thats now our friends job.
- James Watters
I miss live.yahoo.com.
- monkeystick
Yahoo is irrelevant to me. It gives me nothing I can't get elsewhere.
- Jim Connolly
Compuserve has new page.. yay.Wait looks like AltaVista changed something too. in other words- meh! But that is from a techie- general public still uses it and AT&T DSL subscribers use it.
- Alyx
They're still a traffic juggernaut thanks to the SBC|DSL deal. Millions and millions of SBC (Now AT&T) home DSL users have Yahoo set as their homepage and have no idea how to switch it and in most cases don't want to because their e-mail is run through there too.
- Adam Turetzky
I don't even use the yahoo weather feed on my iPhone. The hack putting the temp next to the battery is lovely though. @ Jim !! That's exactly the crux... imho
- Omar
RS: but I said I care =] i mean i am one of those 300 million i mean several of them =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
I stopped using Yahoo because the home page had too much crap on it. Google kept theirs simple.
- Chris Mayer
Yahoo messenger is still popular.
- Gus
Flickr became irrelevant once I started using webspace more. Am an oldschool member though.
- Omar
There is an important strategic difference between no longer growing and dead. Yahoo is no longer growing; they own the wrong market segments.
- James Watters
And I don't know why people would knock them. Yahoo!'s homepage and the my.yahoo.com page have so much more to offer than what Google gives you. The search results are only mildly different, at least in my limited testing.
- Adam Turetzky
I never said Yahoo is dead. I said I don't care.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Scoble: Why do you "not" care?
- Hoop
@Robert; yeah, just reacting to a few, they are toast comments and people talking about a few apps they still have left as if that matters.
- James Watters
Hoop: nothing is there that makes me care. My friends and news are elsewhere.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Hoop: why should I care?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@jamesurquhart had an interesting twitter discussion today asking how many comcast people use their provider as their homepage; Apparently comcast has stats saying many many do. I think I'm very out of touch with the average internet user, as are most of my friends out here.
- James Watters
Scoble: You probably shouldn't. For some reason when I read you saying you don't care I infer it as an implication that you don't think other people should. Truth be told I'm not sure how much time I'll spend there but if Yahoo's homepage turns out to be a better FriendFeed, I'd give it a week try-out
- Hoop
I guess one or two of us here will peek at Yahoo tomorrow to see what they're up to....
- Gus
Omar, how do you mean Flickr became irrelevant?
- Rutger Blom
from email
@Hoop, their new homepage will emulate FF?
- James Watters
Not really. I stopped using Yahoo! in 2001.
- Chantal
I just looked at their home page for the first time in years...ick!
- James Watters
@James, only in the sense that it seems to let me pull content from lots of other sites togeter. That's the main value I get from FriendFeed, pulling together multiple social networks including my friend lists. FriendFeed is fantastic but far from the ultimate experience
- Hoop
@Rutger - just from my perspective, and most people who have been online for a good period. It's still a solid offering, just not as innovative as it was in the early days vs comparative products. It stood on its own then...
- Omar
@Hoop, if they made it primarily about social feeds that would def be big news, esp in an innovative way. But I doubt they will go that far, their existing users would bark.
- James Watters
@Hoop - I still want to find a team to build c0nnected.net into an intelligent intake mechanism - what I'm calling the neural extentive internet, in my head.. I do not code however. wrote a short abstract on it, would be happy to email the concept if requested. Intelligent metrics, full customization, etc. . .
- Omar
@hoop - Abstract topic - Topic: true data singularity or the neural extentive humanistic content management system, [considerations leading eventually to "the neural extensis," a proposed eventual website.]
- Omar
Omar: please explain data singularity?
- James Watters
@James, agreed but if they found a way to bridge that it woudl be huge news. The FriendFeed experience with really simple UX and heavier weight on Yahoo's own content feeds woudl be huge. Alas that's not what I'm seeing on the new homepage and like Scoble, I don't care about anything I see so far.
- Hoop
I am another of those that hasn't looked at Yahoo's home page in years so I couldn't care less about there homepage changes.
- russellcoleman
@James - well I'm not a CS head, so the terminology isn't a declarative absolutism, just what I decided to call it.. this is an abstract developed in a vacuum, thus far. All your data, encapsulated and delivered to a single point. Much like we do google reader for RSS (those that do), however every source in your social media net and ALL your other browser based http traffic can be drawn in. . .
- Omar
YHOO and AAPL both issue earnings Tuesday .... any guesses ???
- Charlie Anzman
Just came to think of one more Yahoo service I like (besides Flickr): Pipes
- Rutger Blom
from email
Just posted the neural extensis concept (what I've typed formally thus far) as a blog entry:::
- Omar
oops, shit. forgot return maps to submit here! my bad:: http://omfglol.org/archive... - Neural Extensis.
- Omar
Omar: slightly OT but my dream site has a little of "my" data and a lot of data for other sources. I'm not as fascinated by the site as I am about the liberation of my data, what Doug Purdy calls the infobus. maybe it starts with a more federated/open FriendFeed. But eventually I do want an app to show me all the data in one place and organized and it will come down to the App with the best experience. Owning my data shouldn't be an advantage. If Yahoo gave me that, I'd care.
- Hoop
@Hoop - You've given me some interesting things to think about. The beauty of the idea I am proposing is you can pull other data you'd read regularly,, or for a short time into the offering. Completely customizable. Think of it as a fully customized scraper of sorts, for things that don't already have a feed, or an API, that you're interested in reading and or keeping track of. And yes, it'd be pulling in things like google calendar, etc of course! Please elabourate a bit on "owning data," ?
- Omar
I cant tell the difference to be honest. Is it really different or am I being punked?
- Ron George
Omar: I dont' want to monopolize the thread, here are some links from Dave Winer, Doug Purdy and others: DM me if you want to discuss further or we could create a public group to discuss: http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2009..., http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2009..., http://www.scripting.com/stories..., http://blog.jonudell.net/2007...,
- Hoop
Ron: I thought the changes are coming later today. http://www.techmeme.com has the news.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I had a different site a second ago now it's back to the old thing :-(
- Hoop
Scoble: go to http://www.yahoo.com/trynew (via Bubba Muraka)
- Hoop
Ya-who?
- mrbrown
Yahoo's web presence is done IMHO. The only people that care are your grandma who hasn't changed her default home page that Dell specified.
- Alex Knight
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I still like (and use) my MyYahoo page. Granted I spend more time in Google Reader than probably anywhere else, but I still use MyYahoo (and I'm not even a grandma or grandpa ;p )
- Michael Pardee
from iPhone
Is Yahoo still around? I thought they were bought by Mattel.
- Ernie Oporto
from iPhone
I stopped using Yahoo years ago. Yahoomail has a pretty incompetent spam blocker. The Yahoo page is much too busy. I went All Gmail/Google but of late, Gmail's been pretty flaky. Yahoo search is probably pretty good, but we're past the Good Enough stage, now. For something new to elbow in, it's got to be very significantly better or different (and engaging).
- Murli Nagasundaram
You just compared a content portal refresh to two social networks and a search—nay: decision—engine. Pretty sure you're way off base Robert.
- David Chartier
Also, I'm no fan of it myself, but according to the last stats I heard a couple months ago, Yahoo's home/start page had about 250 million monthly uniques. Pretty sure that's still slaughtering the competition.
- David Chartier
If Yahoo is failing, I'd like to fail too. http://www.nytimes.com/externa...
- Bwana ☠
I never use Yahoo
- Randy Allen Bishop
Robert - its 2009, are hompy's still important ?? Think of it !!
- Peter Dawson
Does Yahoo have a page. They have more traffic than any site in the world.
- Stephen Pickering
I don't use Yahoo that much anymore but to they will not become irrelevant until someone else provides the same services they do. Anyone who thinks FriendFeed and twitter do that for people like my mom and my grandma doesn't get it.
- Hoop
It does not matter to me at all.
- ashish
I don't see Bing or Yahoo as a threat to Google. Bing is a great product but it doesn't seem like anything that Google couldn't create with less effort.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Hoop: Thanks for the link! Tried to see new homepage earlier and wasn't prompted by Yahoo, as I expected. My first take is that the redesign is cleaner and more flexible. The bad thing -- and I mean *really* bad -- is that they have now dedicated even more room to display advertisements. That's a deal breaker for me; no way would I use the redesign. But I'll still hit My Yahoo daily.
- Larry Hawes
I stopped using Yahoo for my home page a long time ago. Rarely use it these days, so no I don't care.
- Kirk Bryan
yahoo! is still around? Oh yea, they own Flickr. :)
- Kreg Steppe
Well yeah, as a stockholder :)
- jcunwired
Yes cuz I have to use them everyday and my service provider partners w/em!
- polou/indigo_bow
I do because it bring status updates even more mainstream.
- Steve Rubel
I don't. Yahoo is a dinosaur just waiting to go extinct. Google is the future!
- Tomy Thomson
Except for Delicious, MyBlogLog, Yahoo Pipes, and occasionally Flickr, I don't have much of a use for anything else that is Yahoo.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm more interested in Gmail's new changes.
- Amir
LIFE COVER: IRAN ERUPTS! http://twitpic.com/80taz Tehran-based photojournalist is now missing
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Tyson Key, Kol Tregaskes, Alex and 18 other people liked this
I was afraid of this.
- Robert Scoble
So upsetting. How do you know he's missing?
- Myrna
"like"ing this seems inappropriate but I'm interested in what may happen now to certain folks we've been following. I'm reflecting this weekend (among other things) on the power of sources, symbols, and true names.
- Carlos M. Gomes
"liked" to keep track of this...
- Jason Huebel
"like" on FriendFeed means that this post is interesting, you want to track it. Like in life is not equal to Like in FriendFeed.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Myrna, see the comments here for reports from Life and his best friend that he's missing: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it was actually announced on CNN that he was missing with several journalists and bloggers.
- Myrna
:-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Like should be "interested" as well if they gave that option. As I am interested in this.
- Ron George
Would You Pay For A Twitter Pro Account??? - http://myphillynetwork.com/archive...
Jim Connolly, Martin Sliacky and Bill Romanos liked this
I don't think I would
- Alex Puchianu
Overall, I would not pay for Twitter Pro, Facebook Pro or any social network site "Pro". If I were to change my mind it would be based on the features and they would have to be significantly different from the "standard" accounts. We build the social part of the network that puts them on the net map!
- Nakeva Corothers
I'm not sure I would pay, but at this point I AM getting antsy for more/new features and 3rd party integration on Twitter.
- Joshua Judd
I wouldn't want to dilute the twitter service with a pro service because the duality of business would conquer. The internal twitter folks would be torn between providing services for users vs pro users with no clear path to measure success. Without focus it would discourage customers. I would rather see an "add-on" pack of software or similar to enrich the experience but would not fundamentally change the service. My 2c.
- Ron George
The Twitter experience has become so lame for me (@jimconnolly) I hardly use it. I would not even think of paying for it - even if they fixed the scaling issues and stopped that fail whale! There's so much spam/noise that the value has dropped off the chart for me.
- Jim Connolly
I'm curious what service would replace twitter? What other service can we use to replace it that has similar function?
- Sheryl
No.
- Daniel Schildt
unanimous no so far?
- Franz Sittampalam
I wouldn't.
- Mike Vierow
Nope.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
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