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Hackintosh Tutorial: Install a Mac Leopard OS X Retail DVD on a PC | menooB - http://menoob.com/2008...
Jean F, Mike Davies, Darian Rawson and 10 other people liked this
While we can now use a retail Mac OS X DVD to turn our PC into a hackintosh, we still need a bootloader to get it to recognize and install OS X the first time. The good news is, after a successful installation, we can now install any updates from Apple without breaking our system or reinstall the operating system without having to add the same kexts (drivers) that we already have that makes our non-Mac standard hardware peripherals work.
- Leo Laporte
My main system is a generic PC running OSX86, and for what it is I LOVE it! The scene has come a lonnnnnng way since Tiger 10.4.6. I remember putting that on my old VAIO. That's when it was really tricky. Now, getting a new fully working OSX system at a fraction of the cost is a piece of cake!
- John Reynolds
Monitor makers, free $1m idea for you: integrate USB / multiple ins for in-display KVM switch. So simple. Take it, use it. Please.
Sylvain Nadeau, Christopher Barnes, Philip J Beyer and 3 other people liked this
Copy and Paste for iPhone - http://www.geekbrief.tv/copy-an...
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Barack Roll - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Mike Kogelman, isky, Rob H. and 29 other people liked this
yawn... I'm not sure what I hate more. Obama or that song
- Noah David Simon
I thought it was funny.
- Veronica
Veronica, it is!
- imabonehead
this is very close to being evil...very close
- Sidney
Amazing editing. Somebody had some time on their hands!
- Scott Orwig
from twhirl
almost painfully funny in a surprising way
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Obama makes me break out in hives. he loses two percentage points just for that video
- Noah David Simon
yes, because he made that video. himself. on his little editing laptop that he keeps on his tour bus.
- Veronica
that was surprisingly pretty good
- Morgan
what is it with the Blue States and Rick Astley. I hated it when it first played... I hate it even more now. you and Calacanis have a thing for bad music. I was listening to Guns and Roses when this crap was hype. let the bad music die... and then gaddamit... stop the Obama flip flopping. You would think he would of learned a thing or two from Kerry.
- Noah David Simon
cannot... breathe... laughing...
- Michael W. May
HAHA! I find it hilarious that you think I listen to Rick Astley. Like, on my iPod on the way to work and stuff. Maybe I should!
- Veronica
like nobody knows you started the whole rickroll business cuz you're never gonna let him go
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I think you dream at night for Rick. in all honesty though... I don't know why the hip crowd keeps on bringing that stupid song. I'm going to frigg'n kill someone if I hear that F#(%ing song one more time
- Noah David Simon
I think I get it now... 'yall have some kind of romance issues. you think Rick Astley and Obama are like some kind of father figure. but Rick and Barrack are scum! liars. low lifes. I'm going to kick Astleys ass.
- Noah David Simon
no one forced you to press play! if you spend any amount of time on the internet (and i'm sure you do) you knew what was coming :)
- Veronica
a debate with McCain is what I was hoping for.... but he's chicken!
- Noah David Simon
The Rick Roll Phenomenon is intended to piss you off. It is an internet prank because no one likes the song. As an avid troll you should really appreciate it.
- Geoff Schultz
now that would be an excellent way to get kids these days interested in politics! stage the debates in the guise of viral videos. they could name them things like "2 girls 1 McCain" or "Barack Roll" or even "LonelyMcCain71"
- Veronica
Most would only watch the reaction videos from "2 girls 1 McCain"
- Joe Pierce
2 girls 1 mccain omg haha
- Geoff Schultz
I hate the person who made the video.... ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
I hate that I hate this video and it is making me comment and I hate... hate... HATE.... HATE IT! augh.... Geoff who you calling troll?, you ass monkey
- Noah David Simon
Wow. You know, you *don't* have to watch it if you don't want to.
- John Frenette
from twhirl
Yes, but once you start watching it, you can't turn away no matter how bad it is.
- Morton Fox
Awesome!
- Mohamed J
Veronica... it is now the next morning (Sunday) ...and I still can't get that damn bad song out of my head. Rick Astley and Obama is waiting for you in Hell. aaaaaugggh! Never Going to Go Away!
- Noah David Simon
That's a lot of work. Good fun tho
- Josh Haley
Obama and Rick Astley are going to hell!
- Noah David Simon
hate is a strong word
- Ryan
Evidence is mounting that installing apps directly on the iPhone is the cause of the bricking. Use iTunes only, even for updates.
Stelian Iancu, John Spencer, Dan Sleezer and 17 other people liked this
Can I take this to mean, evidence of bricking iPhone directly linked to using iPhone as suggested by apple??
- James Fridley
Rubbish installed apps fine just stop putting 50 apps on the phone
- Nick Brennan
Evidence is mounting that Apple needs to fix it so that iPhoners can install apps directly on their phones w/o risking bricking.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Is that only with 3G Leo? I am using a jailbroken 1st gen with firmware 2.0 and I am installing many apps directly from the App Store on the phone. No problem as of now.
- Dominic Tremblay
This has been my experience as well Leo
- Neil Bakker
I'm useing ipod touch with 2.0 and I can't install or upgrade apps from iTunes.
- Tony Speer
I'm using the 3G and have install plenty through the App Store and SSH without any issues.
- Andrew Trinh
Oddly, my iPhone says there are 4 updates available and my iTunes says I'm up to date - even after syncing.
- Renee Pie
I haven't had any issues so far over the air using 3G. Might be specific to a firmware or model type?
- James Tenniswood
I've only installed apps via appstore on the iphone and have yet to use iTunes and haven't had a single bricking issue. I've probably installed 50+ apps and god knows how many updates
- Grant Gochnauer
Another reason not to buy an iPhone...I'll stick with Windows Mobile phones like my Q9H, it ain't perfect but it works.
- David Ward
So much for doing it all on the mobile. Hope everyone is enjoying their public beta release
- Jonathan Greene
seriously, that is so lame
- Ryan
Only use Apple stuff on Apple devices. Now, what Microsoft is trying for decades, Apple has archived. And the customers are even welcome it. LOL. Reminds me of Dilbert :).
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Lil Wayne sez: "Safe sex is great sex, but better wear latex, because you don't want just laid text, that 'I think I'm late' text." Werd
Marshall Bose, Sean Oliver, Marcel Weiß and 39 other people liked this
Clearly Lil Wayne is all that and a bag of chips.
- ComicList
Lil' Wayne has a problem with the lean. I can point you to some rappers that actually make sense.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Perhaps this is also some form of Old English????
- Kevin Shannon
It's probably just my translation.
- Leo Laporte
word
- Grant
If it gets more people to wear condoms, I'm all for it.
- xero
Lil Wayne also sez: "Gangstas and pimps, Love lobsters and shrimps, Kool-Aid and chicken, Flashy things and women. " - These are a few of his favourite things.
- Johnny Worthington
a better sermon than my pastor's
- Andrea Baker
I actually thought you meant to type "weird" cause in my head that made more sense.
- Ryan Cates
He drinks cough syrup all day, babbles incoherently on a mic, and people eat it up like he's the best rapper ever. It's amazing.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
women and chicken! excellent off rhyme!
- edythe
I've been listening to Lil' Wayne on mixtapes for 4 years now, and have loved all of his mixtape material leading up to his latest album, which I find to be too "mainstream." I think he's got a lot of lyrical talent, and has clearly aligned himself with decent production. I'm not saying he's better than 2pac/Biggie and is the best that ever lived, but I believe his current reign is more deserved than 50's. Oh, and I would have never expected Leo of all people to tweet his lyrics! Good on you Leo!!
- Granteezy
Not gonna lie, the man says some awesome stuff. I hadn't realized 50 was that important as a rapper...HAH. I avoid radio/videos though, so what do I know...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Favorite rapper. 2nd best to Jay-Z. He says things that are just...GENIUS! Love him.
- Corvida
So many nuggets of knowledge built into Tha Carter III, Leo. This is one of many, my friend.
- Liz
andrea: ! :)
- edythe
I'm still a BTH man myself, but then again I most listen to rock/alternative.
- xero
That's considered incoherent babbling? o_O hahahaha
- Bob
from Alert Thingy
Leo foshizzle!
- Jim Bednarz
That's a misquote. It's really: "Safe sex is great sex, better wear a latex / 'cause you don't want that late text, that "I think I'm late" text"
- Hashim Warren
One for true techies: "I got game like EA, but I wanna let you play."
- Sean Quinn
from twhirl
@brian norwood - Leo got the line wrong...Hashim corrected him. It makes plenty of sense and it's promoting safe sex. Not sure why that's worth ignoring?
- Angel Smith
Thais pretty fly, Leo.
- Mike Lewis
Yeah, I mean. Sometimes I do feel like kicking Wayne in the chest...watch him fall into a bottomless pit...but that's just me :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
It's just depressing how much money he'll make from this...
- Brooks Guthrie
from twhirl
ACtUALlY liL WAYNE SAYZ 'SAfE SEX iS GREAt SEX; bETteR WEAR A lAtEX kCAUSE YUh dONT WANt tHAt lATE tEXT tHAT i THiNK iM lATE tEXT !!' dUhh ACtUALlY liSTEN tO thE lYRiCS. ANd YES liL WAYNE iS thE bOMb LiKE tiCk tiCk(=
- Dawny
lmfaooo u don't know what your talkin about. i agree with dawny. that is what he says
- gef
damn if yall gonna make fun at least quote the lyrics correctly......
- tae chills
Going live on USTREAM in a few secs, come and join the fun http://offtherack.peoplestylewatch.com/2008... and ask away lets interact :) like we do!
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OH: three thing you don't talk about with family, religion, politics, and operating systems
Ruiyi Zhang, Charlie Anzman, Warner Crocker and 33 other people liked this
With the In-laws maybe.
- Percival
Good List!! all taboooo topics for sure!
- Susan Beebe
Add programing environments to the list. Several years ago, I witnessed a clear separation between Java and VB adherents. Luckily, no one was killed.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
We've had family food fights over these same touchy topics!
- Susan Beebe
I think you should add sex and cornbread to the list, too.
- Ha3rvey (obviously wrong)
With my grandmother, you'd have to add 'colored people', as well.
- Akiva Moskovitz
be sure to bring up psychedelic drugs and critique salvador dali art and huxley novels.
- shaggyshaw
Except in our family. I guess that was my training for blogging.
- Robert Scoble
How about text editors? :)
- Morton Fox
vi vs emacs anyone?
- Percival
funny thing reli and poli are about the *only* things my family talks about. thankfully, nobody but me gives a rip about op systems.
- Mark Schulz
nano rules all!
- Tony Speer
yeah, nano rules if you can't use emacs!
- Alexandre Testu
Hey I can use emacs just too lazy too :p
- Tony Speer
Rubbish. I fervently try to extract people from the living nightmare of religion, socialism and Windows. Especially family members.
- John Samuelson
cosign @ John
- Jamie
For sure! Couldn't agree more
- orionstarr
@ Jamie you taught me some new slang! Cheers...!
- John Samuelson
I submit that the family that can't talk about these, can't talk about much else either.
- Jim Sewell
Stick to the weather and field/give comments on the person who last got their hair cut and you'll be fine.
- Derick Valadao
Hah. My mother can ask me to fix her operating system, if I've been to church lately, and if I voted in one sentence. Luvya, mom!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Or you could just learn to have a calm discussion/debate.
- Tanath
In my family the good debates start over Facebook via MySpace.
- Robert Scoble
In my famuly it is all about Politics...one thing we never tlak about comfortably is money...I've got none and my parent's have got some so it ends there
- Andrew Fielding
from twhirl
Until recently my father-in-law was still using Windows 3.1 (no internet) and would DARE you to challenge him by suggesting an upgrade. True Story
- Mattb4rd
I would mos def add money to the taboo family convo list. (shivers)
- John LeMasney
Redundant. Operating systems are religions.
- Ryan Brenizer
I will believe the hype about digital television when I can buy a TV that automatically superimposes a giant weasel head over John Stossel.
Ross Armer liked this
Raise your hand if your iPhone 2.0 firmware is constantly stalling and/or freezing. Is this a known bug that I miss because I was at E3?
Rob Fuller, MiniMage TKDteacher of FF, Jennifer Van Grove and 6 other people liked this
erm, not me, tho mine reboots alot.. but I must have my apps!
- Socom
hand raised here. There are a lot of freezes and hiccups where it seemingly takes a little break.
- matt hollingsworth
2.0 is definitely flaky / unstable - apps crash more often, more spontaneous reboots, more freezeups etc. - Apple have supposedly got an update coming soon - can't be soon enough
- Patrick Jordan
Once mine starts stalling, it's only a few minutes away from an auto-reboot. 30min-1hr of constant use in multiple apps will bring about a reboot.
- ·[▪_▪]·
It's definitely more sluggish and less stable than 1.1.4. The price we pay for more choice and complexity on essentially the same hardware?
- Kevin C. Tofel
Yup. Mine too. Lots of little hiccups in my iPhone 3G. Especially, web pages quitting for no apparent reason, returning me to home screen.
- Len Edgerly
what bothers me more then anything, is the whole 1 hour backup that you have to cancel out of, holy ted whats up with that
- Socom
mine happens the worst when i'm trying to use the keyboard. doesn't matter if it's for a txt, notes, or email. takes about 30 seconds or more to type.
- Veronica
Keyboard was hella lagging earlier, i was words in front of it and having to sit back and wait for it to catch up. Restarted and all ok again now.
- Simon Wicks
No problems here. It's been working like a charm (so far)
- John Frenette
from twhirl
major reboots for me on app launches. I had a period today where 3rd party apps would open then close
- Matt Devost
Mine reboots if I play a video podcast without explicitly using the "video" tab. Before 2.0 it would just play the audio fine from anywhere.
- Dwayne
Yeah, that and my passwords show while I type. That's ungood.
- Alan
Mine is getting very bad signal...actually have an appt to get it looked at Friday.
- Jay Martin
*hand*
- l0ckergn0me
Yep its buggy when dealing with apps. Needs an update.
- Sean Davis
yep. when mine was jailbroken it worked like a champ, now it hangs in the breeze whenever it wants.
- grant fox
make sure you have the official release not the pre-release from the night before & try turning off push data
- mike "glemak" dunn
Raising hand for the iPod Touch 2.0 firmware. Some of the Apps have crashed too. Tho I noticed that several apps have updated within the past couple of days. Rumors suggest that a newer firmware is being readied.
- George Brickner
I find certain apps are causing problems (memory leaks, etc.) and that I have to reboot daily. If I don't use any apps other than Apple's, it runs pretty stable.
- Jim Bergman
It's crashing almost as much as it did when I jailbroke it. Almost.
- Bwana ☠
See James' take on why this happens here: http://bit.ly/1eHvyQ
- Sergio Cruz
Sergio, I've tried holding the home button for 6 seconds to "force quit" applications in order to attempt to free memory by that assumption. It hasn't made *that* much of a difference, but it does help some with memory intensive apps like Mail, Safari and iPod
- Bwana ☠
@Veronica I have had the same keyboard issues. App crashing not that bad.
- Andy Lewandowski
Day 6 for me with no lock ups, freezes or crashes. Had a couple free apps that won't run but only those 2.
- Al Degutis
from twhirl
I love my iPhone for everything that I can use it for, but someitmes I just want to chuck it out the window - and then I remember I waited in line for 8 hrs :/
- Jennifer Van Grove
from twhirl
I've noticed too, on my iPod it's painful typing anything at times.
- Josue Salazar
I've had apps crash to the homescreen, but only one reboot so far. What annoys me more than that is that iTunes wants to back up the phone every time I plug it in. Also, why is the contacts app so slow?
- Frederic
No: seems fine here.
- Chris Baskind
I find when my keyboard slows down if I hold down the home button (not just press it) until it resets to the home screen and then reenter my app or txt it is much more fluid. 2.0 needs some definate stability work.
- Sidney
Yup ... freezes every couple days. Sometimes it even reboots.
- Jeff Smigel
2.0 is certainly flakier than 1.1.4. Apps lock up and reboots the iPhone randomly.
- Marshall Bose
Priorities
Steve Rubel, Robyn Miller, Eric Geller and 14 other people liked this
Curious what's on pages two and three of your home screen...
- Randy Hall
Loopt.. Is that good?
- Muthu Ramadoss
Only three pages?
- Rob H.
why airme? Yeah, it's sort of ok (sort of), but first page?
- shaun mclane
You got a better flickr uploader with geotagging? Page 2 is SmugMug, radio and games. Page 3 is all the unused Apple apps.
- Leo Laporte
reshared to appstore room - http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- mike "glemak" dunn
How did you get screenshots on non-jailbroken phone?
- Ross Armer
screenshot on 2.0 iphone - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- mike "glemak" dunn
FYI - you can also save images to your camera roll now by holding your finger on the image until a window pops up asking if you'd like to save it. Nice touch. - http://www.listropolis.com/2008...
- shaun mclane
just hold the home button then click on the top right button
- paul bailey
from Alert Thingy
Verdict on OmniFocus mobile?
- cecily
I broke down and did it. White 16GB. There was a line of about 20 people at the Santa Rosa Apple store. Activation took no time at all, tho.
Matthew Bischoff, Jeff P. Henderson, Joshua Oehler and 11 other people liked this
Big surprise there! :-)
- Mark Sheppard
ahh...Leo...I thought you were going to wait till the bold came out.....but you let the money burn in your pocket.....*sigh*
- Matt
Congrats on your purchase. I haven't taken that plunge yet :)
- imabonehead
I would laugh, but I did the same thing this morning.
- Jonathon
Why white over black? Does it hide fingerprints better?
- Keith Dishman
I got the white 16g too. Love it. Saw Wall-E again today and the white 3G reminds me of Eve's smooth white awesomeness.
- Steve Isaacs
It's funny. I was JUST listening to the MacWeek podcast where you said you thought you were going to wait.
- Michael Groner
from twhirl
Boy, I wish you had not given your old one to Dane. You could given your old away. Like to me :)
- eyeonpower
from fftogo
So now that Leo has bought it, should we expect an announcement on the iphone 3.0...
- James Fridley
agree with @james_fridley on FF, the iPhone 3.0 will be announced tomorrow now
- Justin Yost
I knew you'd break down. I think I'm gonna get an iPod touch tomorrow myself.
- Jim Bednarz
Congrats Leo. Welcome to the club:)
- Grant
Wow, what a surprise. Why did you get white instead of black?
- Doug Sampley
Santa Rosa is my hometown...assuming you're talking California. Awww, you just made me feel kinda homesick :)
- Amber Horner
I figured black would be less likely to scream 'expensive gadget freak' to prospective muggers.
- Joost Schuur
You waited a whole extra day, separating you nicely from the freaks who camped out overnight. Good job!
- James Joyner
all the water in the world - http://feeds.infosthetics.com/~r...
asiriusgeek, Franklin Naval, Keith - @tsudo and 20 other people liked this
this is why I love FriendFeed - I could have locked myself in a room for a decade and done nothing but search the internet(s) and I doubt I would have ever come across that
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
There's something frightening about this. I would never have imagined that relative "magnitude" (or lack of).
- asiriusgeek
oops. no wait, that's all the diet coke in the world.
- Karim
From now on I'm shutting the water off when I brush my teeth!
- Al Stevens
Unbelievable. Thanks Scoble.
- Keith - @tsudo
Goatse.cx has returned, but it's not what you think... - http://goatse.cx/
Earle Martin, brian cors, Paul Buchheit and 10 other people liked this
I love it. The internet has a never-ending grudge against Bill O'Reilly and the man just keeps digging himself deeper. It's hard to believe a "journalist" so widely hated on the net can find an audience, but I guess that says a lot about who is and isn't active online.
- Nick Bowersox
Facebook 'dipping' craze irks pool owners - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
Tyson Key, Ken Booth, STM Tampa and 11 other people liked this
Yes; I've heard about this, people are crazy these days.
- Aaron Myers
from Alert Thingy
Crazy isn't the word I'd use. Disrespectful, careless, self-entitled, irresponsible... Yep, somehow I've become a cranky old bastard. GET AWF MUH LAWN.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Media hype. A made up story.
- Leo Laporte
Back in the 70's and 80's we had to settle for the odd apartment complex or motel and it was always with the sneakers tied-on tightly since we'd be chased out just as quickly as we entered. I've recorded some more thoughts on the subject here: http://snipurl.com/swimkid
- Christopher Harley
I agree with @Leo - this is a made up story. And why are they calling it a "Facebook" craze, when it's Google Maps that makes it possible?
- Rex Hammock
Why is it that only the British flip out over this stuff as full-fledged phenomenon that need to be stopped, probably with more cameras and monitoring of Facebook.
- Andrew Feinberg
yeah, it seems like every other story is fake these days or some kind of viral marking ploy
- Scott Beale
never needed facebook or google maps to do this. In my home town we would gather at a Mcdonalds to review a very good aerial photo that hung on a wall for empty swimming pools in 1975 for skateboarding. The media has nothing better to report on?
- Jerry Schuman
@Rex because Google Maps doesn't have a messaging component?
- Adam Turetzky
Is this a hoax like using Bluetooth to hook up with people on the tube: "toothing"?
- Cote'
And what a great use of technology. I love how people become alarmed when someone utilizes something new for a purpose it's inventor didn't think of and it then upsets people. Sorta like searching Google for phonebooks inadvertently shared online ("phonebook" filetype:xls) or looking for Mac computers with Personal File Sharing turned on by searching the first sentence of the default page that's displayed.
- Adam Turetzky
This sort of thing won't be a problem if not for the fact that if there is a "dipping" party and a drunken idiot drowns, the owner, who didn't want them there in the first place, would be sued. Life would be more fun without the lawyers.
- Robert Hafer
Disrespectful indeed. Wait until the owner has guard dogs.
- Justin Rains
John McCain: ‘I hate the bloggers’ - http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008...
João Almeida, Gaby K. Slezák, Chris and 15 other people liked this
OK, so I'm not trying to be political with this, but SERIOUSLY?! That was a stupid stupid thing to say.
- Veronica
Well, bloggers hate you too, old man!
- Dillon K. Hoops
Long thread on this over here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ken Sheppardson
These kids today with their blargs! Off my lawn, ya darn kids!
- Leon
Bjorn - so? in this day and age where anything a candidate says can be used against them or taken out of context, they need to watch what they say.
- Veronica
One short clip taken out of context. Good fuel for the haters in the world.
- William Beem
I don't hate McCain, actually. There are worse options out there than McCain. But saying you hate an extremely vocal community isn't good campaigning.
- Veronica
Why would he, even jokingly, say he "hates the bloggers" if he didn't in some way believe that to be true? It's like an offhand comment, like he thinks no one would even care enough to be bothered by it. So flippant.
- Veronica
@Veronica It's impossible to "watch what you say". Everything and anything can be taken out of context to be used against you.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
"I hate such and such" is not a statement that can be taken out of context, imho.
- Veronica
It's a short clip designed to highlight ONE comment. What was the context for the conversation? It doesn't matter to the people who are trying to find ways to hate on a man. My guess it's people who do stuff like that who were the topic of his conversation.
- William Beem
It was definitely a joke, but bloggers are very easily irritated, so maybe it wasn't the best move. I don't think it will hurt him too bad though.
- Harrison Hoffman
We're ornery like that.
- Veronica
@Veronica ??? What? It doesn't matter what he said. They took it out of the original context. Even then it was obvious he was making a joke.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
the head of the library association said this like 2 years ago and it did not go well for him.
- Stefan Hayden
ty shey - it was a joke people - I realize that given his previous regrettable statements about his tech illiteracy that this is the worst joke he could have made in the eyes of this community but for goodness sakes. Between rising energy costs, our economy, the war, Iran, N Korea - we have PLENTY of things that need serious debate right now - do we really need to take a joke and accuse McCain (as I saw on another thread) of jking this way bcause he is agnst the rights of indviuals to freely exprss thmslvs?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
[Posted this in the parallel conversation over on Scoble's link to the same story. Sigh. I hate FriendFeed] Just dug up this from his Liberty University commencement address back in 2006. Summary: He really does hate bloggers ;-) http://kshep.posterous.com/mccain-...
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, do you expect anything less from John McCain? Does he know what a blog or blogger is? I mean, he doesn't use a computer much (but then again neither does Richard Branson - so maybe we should not hold that against McCain).... hmm ... But then ... Richard Branson isn't running for US President.... it's OK if he doesn't use a computer - he prob doesn't need to ... but McCain ... he doesn't need a computer either .. but he does need to understand people who do - because a lot of people do.
- Marshall Sponder
It's a rotten thing to say, but he seemed to connect with those people when he said it. There's a large group of people who are actively shunning new media. Afraid of change, as usual.
- David Van Vickle
Has he started up an enemies list yet?
- Harry Myhre
He probably thinks bloggers are people from Holland who wear wodden shoes.
- Harry Myhre
McCain hates bloggers and Obama hates America. It's lose-lose.
- Jim the Tolerable
I had forgotten - Paul Newman was on Nixon's enemies list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Harry Myhre
Does John McCain even know what a blogger is or does?
- Soso Sazesh
i hate to defend the old man, but doesn't it seem like he was trying to get a laugh? albeit a cheap one.
- robert steburg
thats ok, I hate McCain so we're equal
- Danilo da Silva
from twhirl
I imagine the majority of the population saying "bloggers, is that some new kind of terrorist?" so I don't think it will hurt him much. That, and from my informal online research, most bloggers hated the GOP nominee before McCain's name filled in the blank.
- Robert Hafer
He was looking for a laugh since he was acknowledging that bloggers are usually good at holding people's feet to the fire... I mean seriously people?
- Matthew Beck
The feeling is mutual, old man.
- Anthony
Why are geeks often atheist? - http://m4th.com/Article...
Brian, Czar, Alejandro and 31 other people liked this
Cause geeks often look at the world logically and listen to George Carlin. :-)
- Robert Scoble
The gods don't scale.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
side effect of asking lots of tough questions, you start to get some answers that make sense.
- Nathan Eckenrode
As a fellow geek we better be sure we're right, because if we are wrong it's gonna be bad.
- Blackopsmanners
Blackopsmanners: my idea of hell is being forced to sit next to Jesse Helms for eternity. Of course HIS idea of hell is probably sitting next to me. So, who is in hell?
- Robert Scoble
Geeks are generally tech freaks and when you see item after item made by man changing the way your life is lived then it becomes pretty easy to accept that man invented god not the other way around.
- Jeff Jones
I think it has a lot to do with rarely humbling oneself enough to admit that they don't, "know it all" or "have all the answers". It's generally about humility, which geeks tend to have very little of.
- Trevor Carpenter
I cannot disagree more Trevor. Atheists are the ones saying "we don't have all the answers". Deity based religions certainly claim to do so.
- Jeff Jones
Trevor: Jeff is right. I used to be very religious. I found that most of the people who were religious were not humble at all and weren't able to look at the world without having any answers. Our minds are very strong pattern recognizers. It takes a lot of humility to turn off the pattern recognizer and just accept you don't have the answers. But, this is why I call myself an agnostic. I'm not certain there is not a God. Just like I'm not certain there is one, either.
- Robert Scoble
To Jeff and Robert. I certainly can understand what you are saying. However, I separate out the religious from the genuine Christian. The majority of the "religious", including many who clam Christianity, are far from humble. They are generally far from God too. I would not say that those who are legitamately close to God claim to to know it all. In fact, they would say that God knows it all, and we can't know it all. My statement about geeks not being humble is more poking fun than anything else.
- Trevor Carpenter
Trevor: I was in a church of people all of whom considered themselves as "genuine Christian." Part of the problem is that religious people assume they really know what makes someone a "real believer."
- Robert Scoble
I'm a card-carrying member of a deity based religion as Jeff calls it. Christian is what I am and I certainly don't claim to have all the answers. In fact, I have very few. That's why I need/desire the deity. Right? Sadly, there is an unfortunate number of folks on both (many?) sides of this argument who give their own group a bad rap. I'm just trying to not be one of them. The way I see it, God is the one who created the patterns we're recognizing so I'll accept that He has the answers I need.
- Lisa L. Seifert
Thank you, Lisa.
- Trevor Carpenter
Lisa: the thing is, anyone who professes to "believe" has already put something in their pattern recognizer that simply isn't there. Or, have you really seen God? But I'm going to beg out of this. I learned in the 1990s that these conversations never convince anyone and just piss people off. So, "Hide" is earned, have fun.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. Sure, I know what you're saying. No belief system is worth anything if it in fact doesn't claim to be the "right" way. Without taking this too far...I'm coming from a traditionally reformed, Bible believing worldview. All that to say, Lisa is right. Even those on my team have harmed your view of true Christianity.
- Trevor Carpenter
just think of a computer software program that has a certain set of rules....if then statements, etc....then think of DNA and explain...then who set the rules? randomly appeared?
- Pokai
You're welcome, Trevor. (For what?) Robert: I'm sad that you're hiding the conversation. Nobody's pissed off. (Yet??) And I'm certainly not reading that anyone is trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply seeing different opinions here. And I like that. As far as seeing God: not in the way I'm assuming you mean. But I see the God-Effect everywhere, not to be confused with the Scoble Effect. ;-) Ocean, Wind, my own body-muscles, bones, blood, organs, blah, blah, blah. Standard argument. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
I'm with Scoble on this one, hide earned!
- Granteezy
thanks lisa, I think we should whip Scoble into the posted 60 foot monster wave (by Mitchell Tsai) and see what happens to his belief system....then he can tell us what happened to George Carlin :)
- Pokai
Because few deities are open source.
- Craig Thomler
I am of the view that historically and currently that Established Religions are a cause of a lot of Evil in the world and that has always been a major switch off for me about any Church.
- David W
because they don't like the fact that there is something they cannot explain? or maybe because they don't like the fact that there is something that is (could be) controlling them?
- Timo Zimmermann
from twhirl
@ Robert, I think it's unfair to paint whole groups of people as one things or another: muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, et. al which is probably what bothers me most about these discussions. Not the facts of what's right or wrong, but rather the debate normally centers around painting a wide brush across an over-generalized groups of people. see "why are geeks often atheist?" I know a lot of smart people who believe a lot of different things ...
- David Adewumi
I think the questions of humility/uncertainty vs. "we know whats best" views of religion can correspond well to the tech world...there are entrepreneurs looking for what has been the missing, the algebraic X, the unknown that hasnt been built yet or thought of (think of major advances like RSS or SNs a la twitter or friend feed...and then there was the aol way of thinking where they thought they could comprehend entirely the social aspects of the web in a closed platform...geek doesnt always = athiest
- joshuabacker
One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do. There is very little tolerance of other points of view. Most Christian religions profess tolerance of others and I'm sure their are some groups that do practice this, but I find significant hypocrisy with most religious institutions between what they preach and how the really act.
- Jeff P. Henderson
ok kambiz, interesting, but what makes the same genetic material become a frog, dog or human?
- Pokai
@Pokai, Mutation.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Lisa, I was simply thankful for your comments. They were spot on.
- Trevor Carpenter
I really loved this part of the article:The absence of proof does not mean there is no proof at all; but it does give a strong reason to doubt if there is any. Geeks have conditioned themselves to think logically, just as the religious have been conditioned to replace logic with trust in what they are told. What can be extracted from this is that geeks are not atheists simply because...
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- Lisa L. Seifert
I agree david. I wonder why intelligence is their defense.
- Pokai
Continued from previous post: I liked that part for the reminder to keep thinking. I don't ever want to be conditioned to think one thing only whether I'm wearing my Christian hat, my geek hat, my caretaker hat, etc. I don't think we can generalize either way. I agree with David - and with Jeff regarding hypocrisy. It's one reason I hesitate to enter into discussion of beliefs. I know I'm being lumped right now by some of you; but I'd rather try to state my own point of view than sit back and be lumped.
- Lisa L. Seifert
I unhid this for a second just to see what direction it went in. I'm hiding again. Some things haven't changed in 10 years, I see. Sigh. See, I used to participate in every religious thread in Visual Basic Programmer's Journal's CompuServe forum (after moving them to that magazine's "OffRamp" which is where we moved stuff that went off topic). The conversations always degenerated just like this one has into calling the other side names. No one ever learns anything. So, Lisa, sorry. I'm getting older I guess
- Robert Scoble
than you kamrani and jeff for your clarification,
- Pokai
Bye, Robert... Does this mean you won't come to the parties I host at the Ritz once I move to HMB?? ;-) I'm sure I'll get the chance to discuss greater issues such as religion with you at some time when there will be no name-calling. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
i think scoble just faked hiding, but he is still reading...funny how scoble made the first comment on this post...
- Pokai
Oh, no. Do not doubt. Scoble is THE hider. :-) Eventually, he may look back, but he is the best of the hiders. I hide because he has inspired me to do so... Seriously. I always forget about it until he evangelizes it. Then I hide again.
- Lisa L. Seifert
@Jeff "One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do." Now replace 'religion' with (culture, style of government, monetary system, nation, state, language, et. al) and you will see this is not an effective argument. See current war in Iraq/Afghanistan for an example. Is that really about religion?
- David Adewumi
Up to this point, I can't find one person, on either side of the discussion calling anyone a name. Where are the name-callers? (excluding Lisa's, "Scoble is THE hider.")
- Trevor Carpenter
This is a misconception
- Alan Wilensky
from twhirl
wow, I step away for a night, and look what I miss!
- Andrew Badera
FWIW, I was born, christened, raised Roman Catholic. I was even an altar boy, but that was mostly due to the boredom I experienced, sitting in the pews. I don't claim to have all the answers -- I lean more towards labeling myself an agnost than atheist these days -- but I know, quite for certain, that organized religions don't have it any more right than I do.
- Andrew Badera
Nobel physics Stephen Hawking: No need the God model
- Igor Poltavskiy
Creators of religions (or any influential belief system) are interesting (perhaps as much for their pathologies as anything else). Followers of belief systems created by others are not interesting, at least in that aspect of their lives that is organized around a script that they didn't create. They are sleep walkers.
- Sean McBride
First, not all deity-based religions claim to be the right and only way. In fact, Judaism is based on the idea that it is right for Jews and probably not right for anyone else. It's partially because of this sense of exclusivity that probably fuels Antisemitism. Also, when a lot of people say 'religion', they usually mean just Christianity because it's all they know. It's unfair to other religions to be so blindly grouped.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was raised in a Christian household and definitely see HUGE problems with Religion and the "Church" at large. In fact, I am so bothered, I stopped going to church as a result and am routinely offended by the all non-sense/crap espoused by religious groups and church organizations. I believe God exists. I have no unbelief in this regard as I have personally experienced some wonderful spiritual events (2 miracles in fact - 1 documented by dental x-rays). I see tons of fallacies with religion - very sad.
- Susan Beebe
Akiva - ethnic nationalist ideologies -- particularly messianic ethnic nationalist ideologies -- are by definition exclusionary, polarizing and a trigger of violent conflict with ethnic outsiders. Universalist religions like Christianity, Islam and Buddhism are largely attempts to overcome the problems and limitations of ethnic nationalism.
- Sean McBride
On my good days I'm an agnostic, my bad days an atheist. On the whole all religions try to describe the same thing, make sense of our world and how we should conduct ourselves. I remember being at my Grandmother's funeral (Catholic) and thinking that the words (return to Christ etc) were so comforting ... and it was then that I thought they were wrong. Those words are designed to be comforting and that was by human design IMO. Seek god in your own way and live accordingly - see Stranger in a Strange Land.
- AJ Kohn
Where do you get those statistics that geeks are typically athiest? Faith takes courage and conviction. I am a Christian as are many of the riders I know.
- Dave Ploch
Sean, last I checked, 'universalism' isn't achieved by oppression, forced conversions, or the outright murdering of people of differing beliefs. Furthermore, Buddhism shouldn't be grouped with Islam and Christianity because Buddhism isn't a proselytizing religion. In fact, I would say that Buddhism and Judaism are more universalist than Christianity and Islam for this very reason. They say, 'You do your thing and we'll do ours.' Not, 'You do our thing or we're coming after you.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Faith mentality: don't question me, don't challenge me, believe and do what I say. Hacker mentality: question everything, challenge everything. Guess which mindset produces the more interesting creative work.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: Judaism (especially in its Zionist mode) is an ethnic nationalist ideology or cult organized around the interests of a particular ethnic group. Ethnic nationalism is the direct antithesis of universalism. Buddhism bears little meaningful resemblance to Judaism or religious Zionism. Christianity and Islam have committed many crimes over the ages, that is true. Aggressive fanaticism and intolerance seem to be central features of nearly all monotheistic/Abrahamic cults.
- Sean McBride
I don't want to seem ignorant or prejudiced, but is Judaism not highly non-universalist? Laws against marrying non-Jews etc.
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, the best way I can put it is how a Rabbi once put it to me: 'It's better to be a righteous non-Jew than to be a non-righteous Jew.' In other words, Judaism prefers people to follow a different religion that is better suited to them rather than be forced to become Jewish. To me, that's more universal. Live and let live.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sean, and there it is. I'm ringing the bell.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Alexander: Judaism is intensely ethnocentric at the core, but various currents in the Jewish tradition have tried to move in a more universalist direction -- Reform Judaism, Reconstructionist Judaism, secular Jewish movements (how about Einstein?), etc. Notice how much of the Old Testament revolves around wars between "Israel" and other ethnic/nationalist groups ("the nations") -- it's the dominant motif of much of the Bible.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: I see. I'm going to stick with atheism for the foreseeable future, but I think I'm relatively righteous... Thanks for the info.
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, oops, yep. I should've written 'a different religion, agnosticism, or atheism.' I did not in any way mean to imply that only religious people can be righteous. The two, sadly, are sometimes mutually exclusive which is something Judaism seeks to avoid.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- to which branch of Judaism are you referring? Some factions are incredibly intolerant; others are the soul of tolerance. Some of Israel's chief rabbis have made public statements that are extremely intolerant towards various ethnic and religious groups (including towards other Jewish religious factions). One finds the same problems in the Christian and Muslims worlds -- fundamentalist voices of intolerance often drown out more reasonable voices. See, for instance, John Hagee on Roman Catholicism.
- Sean McBride
Sean, how about not hijacking this post to yet again aggressively espouse your opinions on Judaism (and Israel)?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- has the discussion suddenly become too sensitive for you in some way? You sound like you'd like to censor it. Let me ask again: which branch of Judaism are you referring to here? Orthodox? Conservative? Reform? Reconstructionist? Seems like a perfectly reasonable question. Also, a great deal of Christian fundamentalism in America revolves around Israel, does it not? Bush reportedly started a disastrous war in Iraq largely because of his religious beliefs. Iran may be next.
- Sean McBride
Sean, it's very clear that you have a bone to pick and you can chase me around FriendFeed until your Keds fall apart but I am not going to feed your hunger. Thus, reasonable or not, I am not answering your questions. You seem only to be interested in answers that can fuel your soapbox, anyway. If this makes you feel superior or victorious, that's fine. That's a delusion I will lose no sleep over.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you haven't replied in a rational way to a single particular point I've raised here -- your responses have been emotional. And this is very typical behavior for religionists of all kinds -- they have difficulty handling a rational discussion about non-rational beliefs. Judaism is a very complex subject -- the tradition includes numerous competing and contradictory factions. Overgeneralizing about Judaism, Christianity and Islam is an intellectual error, in my opinion.
- Sean McBride
Actually, my responses have been very rational. I'm just addressing your motives and not your points. You just can't seem to understand the fact that you are not entitled to someone's answers just because you ask them questions.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you're addressing motives, and not the substantive points being addressed in this thread? That is not how reasonable people conduct rational discussions and debates. If you can't handle logical, factual and civil challenges to your beliefs, probably public discussion forums aren't a favorable medium for you. :) For others here, I will simply reiterate: there are several strains of Judaism, some extremely intolerant, some very tolerant. This is a fact known to any serious student of world religions.
- Sean McBride
Ah, more smug responses with implied insults. Gotta love the Internet.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- a simple question: is Judaism a monolithic tradition (as you have implied), or is it a diverse and self-contradictory tradition? Do the ultra-Orthodox agree with Reform Jews? Do the ultra-Orthodox even agree with one another? (They do not.) No wonder geeks and hackers for the most part try to steer clear of religious squabbling and wars! -- it tends to be a real energy-waster.
- Sean McBride
Akiva: I wasn't accusing you of implying anything, merely commenting on my own situation. So no need to apologise.
- Alexander Carlill
Jack: but neither does twitter, and geeks love that.
- Alexander Carlill
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