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this news is rocking my world: facebook status updates to become public - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... - but will they be googlable? I doubt it
Baard @ Pixum, Rob Diana, Alex Sauceda and 7 other people liked this
Oh my. brb - need to collect some snowballs from the Underworld... While I am there I am going to be thinking about the possibilities the Facebook just gave us now that all those pictures that "only my friends will see" are about to become available for the enjoyment of everybody on the internet. Muwahahaha!
- Andy Bold
I don't look for Fb to make programmatic access its (our) data freely available anytime soon. If it is, it will be very limited or access will be tiered. I don't think they're looking drive in more pageviews or intra-site traffic by doing this, I think it's being done *specifically* to offered to the Madison Avenue set and other high bidders. Hopefully, I'm proven wrong.
- Chris Duffy
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Chris, given the amount of data that they already share via Facebook Platform, I think that you are going to be proven wrong...
- Andy Bold
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Whoa this is big news, for the time being at least. Hopefully the best case scenario will pwn the worst care scenario. I think companies should stick to their core competencies. Though its to earl to predict how the public is going to react to this, I for one am a little bit skeptical for from analytics point of view sure this seems like a great move, but from a more personal point of...
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- Rishabh
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Whoa this is big news, for the time being at least. Hopefully the best case scenario will pwn the worst care scenario. I think companies should stick to their core competencies. Though its to early to predict how the public is going to react to this, I for one am a little bit skeptical for from analysis point of view sure this seems like a great move, but from a more personal point of...
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- Rishabh
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The main issue I see is there are so many users under 18 that are on Facebook. I do believe "children" (which includes non-adult teenagers) are entitled to special rights of privacy. There is strong precedent for this as FB started as a site for students. Making such a sea change in the culture of a community this large and diverse is full of pitfalls and opportunities as you mentioned...
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- Roxanne Darling
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Not sure why they won't be googlable...
- Bindu Reddy
Doesn't Facebook have an 18-and-over only policy in their terms and conditions? It doesn't help with the problem, but it does give them their get out clause...
- Andy Bold
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Comment on: The Day Facebook Changed Forever: Messages to Become Public By Default - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
The main issue I see is there are so many users under 18 that are on Facebook. I do believe "children" (which includes non-adult teenagers) are entitled to special rights of privacy. There is strong precedent for this as FB started as a site for students. Making such a sea change in the culture of a community this large and diverse is full of pitfalls and opportunities as you mentioned Marshall. Adults can deal with the consequences of their actions; it's a different story for kids. To be sure a lot of the irritation of FB has been its "closed-ness" but that has also been its main draw for so many users. I too will be watching to see how this implementation unfolds.
- Roxanne Darling
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Baechaccesshawaii.org meeting - http://brightkite.com/objects...
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Wow, Brightkite now includes a map in the feed!
- Daynah
The iPhone app has changed completely how I interact with Bkite. It's very cool now.
- Roxanne Darling
I've noticed that pessimism is often a sign of insecurity. I avoid pessimistic people as they will bring down others --I've gauged pessimists vs optimists over 5 year stretch and optimists are happier and have better careers and friends. What have you seen?
Matt Craven, Igor Poltavskiy, Louis Gray and 32 other people liked this
there's a middle ground I call realists, which are different from both. What I dislike most are what I call the "yes buts" and the status quo defenders.
- Joe Buhler
I have to agree. I generally prefer to both be and associate with enthusiastic, interested, and optimistic people. Get the best results and life is just more fun and successful.
- Neal Jansons
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Social dynamics in action. Obesity is a socially transmitted disease too, or at least that's what I've read.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Crabs in a barrel
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Joe,those types drive me batty. I sometimes want to shake them and ask why they wanted my advice in the first place. Vent if you need to vent, but admit that is what is being done.
- Heather Solos
Couldn't agree more. Pessimism (like everything else) starts at home, in the from of self-pity and suchlike. They are dangerous people. Beware! Those who seek only sympathy often can't see others happy.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
Pessimism is like anything else, good in moderation. Overly optimistic people suck as well, because they never think bad things can happen. I am generally pessimistic because I had a theoretical comp sci education which teaches the dangers of Big O notation.
- Rob Diana
Yes, but = think what you want, I'm justified in my feelings. Vijayendra, you're right that pessimism begins at home, but some don't even realize they're pessimistic, because it has been in-grained into them since childhood by family and/or surroundings. To them, pessimism is the only lifestyle they've known.
- Sharon McPherson
Pragmatic people live longer, and if they don't they're ok with that.
- Mattb4rd
Joe, I would comment about your dislike of status quo types, but I am too comfortable with things just the way they are. ;-)
- Eban Crawford
mortisha, don't confuse complainers with people who are pessimistic. Complainers just don't like anything. Pessimistic people prepare for the worst case scenario in a situation and just have a bad reputation :)
- Rob Diana
I bet nobody will read my comment.
- Slappy Line
I find that it's the optimists who are more likely to blame other people when things go pear-shaped, even if it's totally their fault. We all perceive reality differently. The further your perception of reality is from actual reality, the worse off you'll be.
- Victor Ganata
"Despite the fact that all the motivational speakers and self-help books say successful entrepreneurs are optimists, don't be worried if you're not. An article in the New York Daily News reports that unhappy people work harder, look deeper at situations, find more creative solutions, and do better work than happy people. Cheerful folks who participated in the tudy...overestimated their...
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- William Harryman
have seen the same. imho pessimists are focused on why something can't be done while optimists focus all their energies on finding a way to get it done. It makes sense that pessimists would be less happy - fact is the crappy unfair things happy all the time but if you spend all of your time focusing on that instead of believing there is a way around/through then the world is going to seem hopeless and cruel. I'd rather spend my brief existence excited about the pursuit of the extraordinary not always easy
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I try to be realistic or cautiously optimistic, rather than strictly pessimistic or optimistic. Blind optimism is dangerous too.
- Morton Fox
In my profession, it's all about hoping for the best, but being prepared for the worst.
- Victor Ganata
I agree that an optimistic team keeps the spirits high. Optimists can also be great leaders because of their ability to inspire others. But all of the above can be blind when it comes to looking around corners. It is good to hire a pessimist as an adviser, heath his words, and then add a ‘can do’ mentality to it!
- Lorenz Lammens
I think pessimists are more realistic. Total optimists irk me because sometimes they just ignore problems around them. I'm probably a little too pessimistic and critical of things myself, I admit, but I get along with other folks like that better than annoying perky happy people.
- Kamilah Gill
I'm an avowed optimist. Rather be clueless & happy!
- anna sauce
Optimism/Pessimism Test --> http://www.queendom.com/tests...
- Ali Haydar
I just scored a 29 on that Optimism/Pessimism Test -- interesting
- Susan Beebe
Realist is what I prefer. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. The extremes in either case are usually dangerous to either themselves or others and nobody wants to be around either. Though if I had to choose, I'd rather be around the extremely optimistic.
- xero
I agree pessismism is a sign often of insecurity - tear down others so they don't get too far ahead. sadly, too often true.
- Roxanne Darling
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Many of the Japanese business men dress the same, black suit, white shirt, maybe a skinny tie, black briefcase.
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- Mona Nomura
Still? Interesting. Check out Harajuku for a change of pace - extraordinary.
- Roxanne Darling
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Isn't this what most business men dress like around the world?
- Thomas Frütel
Loren Baker who writes one of the top search blogs had his Gmail account disabled - scary! http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-...
Ari Milner, Ontario Emperor, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah and 5 other people liked this
That's just frightening. I wonder if Google staffers are just clueless or if they have rhyme or reason for doing what they do when they ban users' accounts. I'm guessing the latter isn't applicable here.
- Tamar Weinberg
that is frightening. never heard of that happening ...even to me.
- Noah David Simon
@Tamar. Frightening, but don't forget that Gmail must act fast to block spamming accounts. We've to chose between 1000 free spammers or 1 blocked innocent. I choose #2
- Jérôme Flipo
Some risk can be mitigated 1) Use an offline mail client and 2) use Google for Domains or forwarding from your own domain, not @gmail.com. You'll still lose mail & connections, but not all of them.
- Wade Dorrell
Wow, Gmail is like the center of my work (I could say life)... I'm too using gmail+docs on a min basis, I can't even imagine a whole day without my emailbox....
- Orli Yakuel
What was the criteria for disabling his account? yikes!
- Susan Beebe
They block first and explain later. I can't fault them for it. They are just trying to protect themselves by protecting their users. It sucks and I hope they figure out a more informative way to handle it in the future, but then again they run the risk of giving the bad guys too much information.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
15 hours later, his access was restored.
- Ontario Emperor
Cloud computing and the inevitable lightning strike. I'm not buying into the concept.
- jcunwired
They did this to one of our (very nondescript) clients - increasingly common; soemthing trips a signal and google auto-locks you out; little you can do about but wait 12-24 hours.
- Roxanne Darling
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Anyone who is spammed a lot has had this happen. Clean the site and you're back up in less than 24 hrs.
- Phil Boiarski
Why I Hate Video - http://thomashawk.com/2008...
Darren Barefoot, Russellreno, Patphelan and 12 other people liked this
I agree with you completely. I've wasted countless hours trying to convert videos between formats. Enough already!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
There's alot more work when your done shooting, but I'd hate to see you give up on that idea. It sounds like a great idea for a show. besides, your must get amazing shots. oting, but I'd hate to see you give up on the idea. besides, your must get some amazing shots!
- Michael Fidler
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Twirl is doing some strange things and it won't let post the links I want to send you, I'll try it from the browser
- Michael Fidler
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Thomas - vidoe is a lot of work. However I imagine there are many interns and geekies out there who wuld love to wokr with you and do some of the heavy lifting. Video is much easier with a team - even a team of 2.
- Roxanne Darling
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Thomas - video is a lot of work however maybe you can find an intern or ass't to do the processing? Having a team really helps!
- Roxanne Darling
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ULead Video Studio 11 edits TOD natively. It will make DVDs, web versions, etc from there. Spend a few $$, save a million headaches.
- Ben Watson
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5DII video clips are recorded in .MOV format using an MPEG-4 video compression. (from Gizmodo). Also, VOB is a raw dvd file, play it in the VLC player, which should be every geek's fallback player.
- InsaneNinja
Curious; how is it that despite there being so many competing image formats, JPG came to be nearly ubiquitous - whereas with video we've yet to see any one format dominate? And where are the video library management programs that'll suck up video in any format, convert and export to any other, and let you organize and tag the things (a la Lightroom for photos)? It seems almost archaic that I'm using a folder structure rather than a database driven app to do this.
- Eric P
Ben, I'd consider buying software like ULead but I'm just not sure in the end that it won't just be a headache like the whole video process thing. Can you try their software for a month before you buy like Adobe does with Lightroom? I'd be happy to try it but don't want to spend a bunch of money on something that just doesn't work in the end.
- Thomas Hawk
InsaneNinja, part of the problem is that I don't want to play my files in the VLC player. I can't watch them on my TV this way. I want to be able to play my videos through Windows Media Center which is what I'm using right now for my home entertainment. It sucks that I can't easily do this.
- Thomas Hawk
"And where are the video library management programs that'll suck up video in any format, convert and export to any other, and let you organize and tag the things (a la Lightroom for photos)?" Eric, that's *exactly* what I'd like to see. I wouldn't mind everyone having their own format if there were a way that you could convert things to your format of choice. It shouldn't be as hard as it is for consumers.
- Thomas Hawk
Eric. JPG is an older standard that could create a low file size with little compression, necessary in the days of 56k modems. Such as how mp3s with their 2-speaker stereo sound and high compression were necessary back then as well. MP4(aka m4v/m4a) is currently taking over as a dominant video format, with its high compression with low degradation, and being popularized by itunes and blogcasts.
- InsaneNinja
Blip.tv is amazing. it uploads flv perfectly. I've decided that eveything goes to blip.tv. I'm not licking Mike Hudack's balls... it just seems to me that the best system for compatibility is that. plus cross publishing is *SO* important and it doesn't kill ur blog load because it starts with just an image. if there is a video standard it should be blip.tv. I would love to see blip.tv thread conversations... that happens and Seesmic is a goner. drawback is there is no blip.tv for friendfeed!
- Noah David Simon
You have my sympathy, Video is such a pain, I just edited a video of my 16month old son it was such a hassle, I used Adobe Premier seemed to work well enough. In the end I have the memory captured thats what counts
- Dean Blithe
video is a world in itself... some format problems are like a language I don't understand. I copy and splice in quicktime pro and it plays well enough... but on upload to seesmic it all gets lost. conversion from DVD is hard... but we know we can get a DVD to AVI easy enough.
- Noah David Simon
@Thomas, while i have a hard time believing this, many sites claim that some VOBs are compressed in a way that you can rename the extension to mpg. (DVDs are coded in MPEG2). I'm sure you have attempted this already.
- InsaneNinja
my main concern is why someone can't make an FLV converter to quicktime for the public domain. with all this web video it kills me that I can't edit it
- Noah David Simon
Same here. I bought a HDV tape camcorder and Final Cut Express. Then had to add a separate hard disk for clip cache. Post production takes way too long. Imovie 08 is terrible. Back to video clips from point and shoot camera pasted together in Quicktime.
- Alan Morris
it is amazing how many codec's and archives there are... sometimes u r taking video from one format and overlaying another... it actually has gotten better then when I first used a firewired mac in 1998
- Noah David Simon
one last comment i hope... http://www.mediacodec.org .. a WMP codec that claims to support FLV, FLAC, VOB among many others
- InsaneNinja
again... if working on a project... I can't recommend enough blip.tv. you could gather all the different clip and formats onto one blip.tv stream and call it a web broadcast
- Noah David Simon
Well the only thing I have that takes video is my small point and shoot Canon SD550. All I have to do is copy the files from the SD card and put them where ever I want to store them on my computer. They are already in .avi format so are easy to view and pretty easy to compress for uploading as well. Forget those big, expensive, clunky video only cameras!
- Becca
VLC can do quite a lot conversions between different formats. People just don't know it. Try ctrl-W
- Tapio Kulmala
Matthew, I tried editing the TOD files on my Mac using iMovie. It didn't work. iMovie didn't recognize the file format. I thought by buying a major brand name like JVC I'd be safe in getting video I could edit. Even the Mac can't do that though. That sucks for a consumer and JVC ought to have to put a warning label on their camera that it can't play on any device.
- Thomas Hawk
abacac, I checked out that link. It includes a lot of formats but unfortunately doesn't mention JVC's crappy .TOD format.
- Thomas Hawk
not free > http://www.convertmod.com/ claims to convert jvc TOD files
- InsaneNinja
.TOD is just a mpeg file. Rename the file and any software should be able to process it.
- Tapio Kulmala
Sorry Thomas, I was noticing some mention of other formats, too, and threw that out there. Dunno if you've read these comments yet re: changing file extensions and/or using Premiere/SDCopy: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets...
- abacab
I feel your frustration. It is part of the control freak hell we live in today. Proprietary formats for something you create is just not acceptable. Concluesion JVC Sucks big time.
- DC Crowley
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Proprietary formats on video camera = totally uncaceptable. Just like the one RAW format is not the same as the next one. We are being screwed. Also Jobs dropping firewire last week on one of the Mac books = a massive FAIL. We will lose all of or archiving capabilities with this crap. In another 4-5 years or DVD's won't work either and we'll need to transfer it all again so that the manufacturers can keep laughing all the way to the bank. Can we start some sort of action group on this. Enough is enough.
- DC Crowley
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your first mistake was asking Steve Gillmor for advice :-)
- Duncan Riley
haha! Duncan your a bitch :p
- DC Crowley
A great video conversion tool is VisualHub (thanks to Leo Laporte for the tip), but the developer closed up shop earlier this month. You can still download it at http://www.geekmeetsgirl.net/visualh..., and hopefully it will go Open Source.
- Nils Sandin
I just got back to Hotel in Tokyo from Osaka, 3 hour trip each way. Bullet train round drip cost about $500, to present for 1.5 hours.
I have fond memories from those parts. Did you eat tofu in Osaka by any chance?
- Roxanne Darling
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Trying to channel my anger into execution, into excellence. Not responding the stupid haters not entrepeneurs posts.
David Brooks had awesome description of Obama's cool-headedness. I loved it. http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
- Roxanne Darling
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Can You Guess Whose Home Office This Belongs To? - http://www.unplggd.com/unplggd...
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Hint: her last home office had bars.
- Steve Rubel
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Is the dog pre-loaded with rabies too?
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
she listens to rap?
- Bonita Garrabrant
hardly the most ergonomic, that stool must be painful.. :)
- Atul Karmarkar
Why it must be Miss Martha!
- Roxanne Darling
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In a single day Joe the Plumber has done more interviews than Sarah Palin has this entire campaign. (ABC, CBS, CNN and more) - http://www.reddit.com/r...
Anne Bouey, Isaac Hepworth, Charles Hudson and 22 other people liked this
great stat; i have not seen any; has he converted to Obama yet?
- Roxanne Darling
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Cripes, you're right! Amazing.
- Anthony Baker
hes smarter to
- tony vaio
Getting ready for my show tonight debating if I should do a live one.
which is easier?
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
As a woman & business owner, I do not feel that McCain or Palin speak to me or represent my best interests at all. I'm invisible to them.
Brandy Lea, Admiral Anika, imabonehead and 3 other people liked this
Same here! In business since 1996 and nothing makes my skin crawl for small business faster than the McCain / Palin ticket
- Susan Beebe
Make that three of us.
- Roxanne Darling
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Truly seeing that opportunities are presented to us every day, no matter how the economy is, if we... - http://creativesage.tumblr.com/post...
Baard @ Pixum liked this
A perfectly accurate observation in my experience.
- Roxanne Darling
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@rohitbhargava Yes, but you'll only be marketed to or at by @BarackObama. There's no conversation there.
I've read sev'l reviews that much more with @barackobama than Hillary et al; a candidate can only do so much - he has executed an amazing campaign standing back and looking at it mechanically speaking.
- Roxanne Darling
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@chris2x points to jet fuel used by airlines = 35% of global fuel consumption http://www.airlines.org/economi...
Jeanine W. and anna sauce liked this
Hmm. Wonder if anyone is working on an electric plane? Hawaii now selling electric mopeds. :-)
- Roxanne Darling
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reading all these depressing blog posts about the death of web 2.0 and i don't necessarily buy that either. think it's time to make money.
AJ Kohn and Susan Beebe liked this
I agree and I pay - what will it take to get the "must be free" peeps to drop that mantra?
- Roxanne Darling
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I agree: its the death of the copy cat but its time to make money for the companies based on a serious model...
- Frederick Saurat
I’m speaking at WordCamp Hawaii - http://billso.com/2008...
Arlan Koizumi liked this
Archiving your life and/or your business -top 10 overlooked blog feature!
- Roxanne Darling
With all due respect to Senator McCain, I think the election is over. Obama won it tonight.
Heather Vaartjes, Kenton, Pranav Bhasin and 32 other people liked this
Absolutely. Well said.
- Eric Geller
If you look at history, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2 'lost' the debates. There is still a month and a lot of stuff to come.
- Andrew Leyden
Not so sure about that. I don't think that either of these guys is really winning anything tonight.
- Mark
and this was a town-hall. i thought this was mccains bread and butter... my friends
- Jon Lee
As I said in another thread - Obama will probably win but you surely can't think this debate was some sort of turning point? This election turned weeks ago.
- Soulhuntre
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I'm not so sure I still think that race is going to be an issue for Obama unfortunately
- Craig Carignan
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I think if Obama loses, it will be declared a loss due to rampant racism in America. I think if Obama wins, it will be heralded as a triumph over racism in America. Neither will be true.
- ComicList
If the election were held tonight, you'd likely be correct. It's in November.
- Mattb4rd
@Charles - of course there will be efforts to tie it to racism... the charge of racism has been a great weapon for Obama in this, he isn't going to let go of it anytime soon.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Matt, thanks, but I haven't forgotten when the election is. As Soulhuntre said, the charge of racism has been an effective tool for Obama, and it will continue to be one for him after the election, win or lose.
- ComicList
Obama is a socialist. Big government...health insurance a "right"...
- Spencer
Agreed.
- Robert Scoble
Obama lacked presence, but both lacked substance
- Zach Berg
@Spencer - so then you were against GWs largest expansion in govt in our lifetimes right?
- Dave Hodson
For the racism discussion pls read Nicholas Kristof in NY Times on Racism without Racists http://is.gd/3BUy
- Roxanne Darling
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Doesn't matter. Congress and senate are who we should pay attention to more than anything.
- Patricia
interesting is that I have always been torn between partisan policies... Obama seems like a breath of fresh air. That is scary.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
They glossed over social security and medicare. Sure, we owe China $500 billion but we also owe over 40 trillion in social security & medicare (unfunded). Which one has you more worried?
- beersage
Momentum for the election is hugely moving towards Obama and doesn't look like it will let up soon. He's already got a sizeable 5+ point lead and is almost a 9:1 favorite to win. This close to the election those numbers are very stark.
- Alex Scoble
Just curious, Alex "Maverick," how much would you be willing to bet on Obama at 9:1 odds? (Note: this is not an offer, I'm curious to know how valid you think those numbers are.)
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
30% of votes will be cast before election day. http://www.boston.com/news...
- Leo Laporte
Get out your pom poms, Leo.
- David Risley
This debate was not a turning point in one area - neither candidate was stellar, but a huge turning point in the other - neither candidate was stellar. McCain needed this one badly.
- jcunwired
Every day I get more disappointed in the choices we have in politicians, and even more disappointed in the way most people "discuss" important matters at hand. It is not a us vs them winning mentality that is going to help the sad state of our country's problems.
- Jeremy Hall
Agreed!
- Aaron Holverson
I wouldn't bet a paycheck, but I'd bet $50 on it that he'll win. I just can't see a scenario that gets McCain back in the race, other than them releasing something really bad about Obama and that's not likely to happen at this point. And by really bad, I of course mean, Willie Horton bad...and since he has never been in a position to pardon people or control a state's/city's criminal justice system that's not likely to happen, so it would have to be something else of equal magnitude...
- Alex Scoble
Something that would show him not to be the man of the people that he's running as.
- Alex Scoble
ACORN and voter fraud issues being directly connected to Obama would do the trick I think
- Daltonsbriefs
Nope...if that issue hasn't come up yet, I doubt it will come up now. And it would be very hard to directly link Obama to voter fraud. Plus I don't think that issue resonates with voters much. Think bigger.
- Alex Scoble
I'm sorry but the idea of one party controlling Congress and the Presidency again scares me.
- ChiliMac
I concur chilimac but I think Obama shows some signs of being able to resist the worst excesses of Dems. Plus, if that's what happens, who should take the real blame for it?
- Rick Powell
Rick: Us.
- ChiliMac
I disagree. The Republicans should take the blame. The last 8 years plus McCain's campaign are the reasons why the GOP will lose this election.
- Rick Powell
People telling me to not discuss my fears of the economy have got me fired up! Jeremy told me that saying that the economy is in a death spiral is irresponsible. My brother told me the same thing the other night. But, the truth is the truth and I'm going to report it. Asian markets down 10%: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap...
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So, argue with me. Why are we NOT in a downward spiral that there is no end in sight to?
- Robert Scoble
“Guess the way to think about it is we took everything we saved the last few years and instead of putting it into things that grow and make other things (like technology, better food, etc), we put it into something we didn’t need more of: a bunch of tract homes in Antioch. And those don’t give anything back. It was all well intended and set up for about 10 years — lets give...
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- Mona Nomura
via my 'smartest' friend (Stanford econ grad with an MBA from Wharton) He lives in Manhattan and is employed by one of the biggest investment and securities firms. He's also appeared a few times on MSNBC.
- Mona Nomura
What about Cramer telling folks to get the hell out of the market? Coming from a man who pumped up the market for the past few years.
- Aviv
Robert I am more with Jeremy. Down 10%. Not good to be sure. BUt a good data persons says: 10%. Ok that is steep but it is NOT 50% - the energy of the conversation, the panic stuff, that would equate to 50% from a data point of view.
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
Robert, I think the issue is that people are already afraid, you throw out more reasons for them to be fearful, and they are afraid of that. Honestly, I'm worried about what's going on but, I try to provide solidarity to the people around me. As such a big pillar of the blogging community, I think that maybe they just want you to try and be solid. I respect you for your unflinching honesty.
- Jimminy Fuller
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Robert: I agree. The truth is the truth. We often don't understand the "principle of bread dough" when it comes to our own country's actions financially or otherwise. (Anyone who bakes, knows what this metaphor means) Or put another way, its like disturbing the water table: you can't dig in one area and not think someplace off site will not be affected. Re: home ownership. Everyone needs a home. The problem lies in elevating the cost of the high end so that the low end becomes increasingly....
- Melanie Reed
Crammer didn't tell people to get out of the market. He said you should have a cash reserve for 5 years to plan for the worst. He said definitaly not to pull out your 401k if you are more than 5 years from retirerment
- Robert Hafer
Aviv: Cramer was right, based on this week's performance in the markets so far.
- Robert Scoble
talking about fear - yours, others is not the same thing as saying we're in a death spiral. being positive about the future does not preclude talking about your fears. i see it like this. things are bad. they're gonna be bad for a while. not a lot of this is within our control, but some is. i am focused on identifying that which i can control and dealing with it. i am also working to keep from allowing my fear to gain too much control over my actions.
- MikeAmundsen
Robert: of course he was, but calling doomsday when it's, well, actually doomsday, is not really all that difficult. Some smart folks have been predicting this for many months (even years) now, but as you can imagine they weren't the most popular ones at dinner parties. People were too afraid to think about what's going to happen.
- Aviv
Mike: so far my only actions has been to put off some major home repairs that aren't totally necessary in order to have more cash on hand. Problem is, one little action like that repeated by everyone causes plumbers to get laid off. And the cycle continues. Roxanne: the stocks I track have lost about 30% of their value so far, or more. Nvidia, for instance, used to be at 40. Now it's about 8. That's not just "10%" and I don't see any resistance to it going down more.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Do people not realize that with outstanding debt, what we robbed from Social Security & Medicare, the US is in the tank for $53Trillion? This will be a wake up for many...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
unattainable for larger and larger groups of people who miss even that entry. The more luxuries we demand in our society the more we take our eyes off what we really need. Why should we begrudge making it possible for everyone to afford a home if it means we do without some things that frankly we don't really need?
- Melanie Reed
Robert: i hear ya. right now some of your actions might cause some pain for others. that sucks. i'm sure you only do this cuz you need to. not everyone will be in the same spot. some will be able to do things that help others in important ways - even it that it not monetary. and i think that's important ot keep in mind. the 'solution' is not tied only to money. i found some changes i can make to improve our family's lifestyle even while we adjust where/how we spend.i see others doing similar things, too.
- MikeAmundsen
I think it's more of a call for you to report on how people are trying to correct the economy instead of just saying that it's going under. Shed a little hope and optimism on the situation instead of more fear.
- xero
xero: the problem is that most everyone I talk to is still in the middle of fear. It's not known how deep or destructive this crisis will be. It's clear it's one hell of a storm coming though. I said it's like having a Cat 5 hurricane coming directly toward you and the best you can do is hope it doesn't swamp the levies near your house.
- Robert Scoble
My portfolio is down avg 37% and one of my stocks down 82% ... I sold some of my tech stocks two weeks ago; glad I did. Looking at BIDU and GOOG now, might get some tomorrow. They will go up again. Companies need the leads they get from search engines.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
To add, have you evaluated your investment strategies? (long term, short term, etc.) And are you sure the recent events will impact you in the long term? Bigger picture, you guys. Look at the bigger picture...
- Mona Nomura
@Mona: +1
- MikeAmundsen
Julio: I would dollar cost average back into the market. I'm still seeing a LOT of downward pressure on stocks. We haven't yet faced the true bottoms of our fears. Plus, if financial results come in at the end of the quarter and they are bad, GOOG could go down even more.
- Robert Scoble
Mona: the market probably won't come back up a lot for at least two quarters. First we need to really get to the bottom of the market (we ain't there yet). Then we need two quarters of better than expected results to really see a good move upward. Maybe even one, if we push this sucker down enough. But I'm hearing of lots of layoffs coming through. Those will be tougher for people to recover from.
- Robert Scoble
Aaron: good advice, but that requires a bit of self delusion. I'm not quite there yet. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I went 100% into cash Apr 2007 because I didn't want the risk of being in the market given an unpredictable housing bubble (Also left the market in Feb 2000 except for $20,000 which did terribly). Many friends in the Bay Area sold their houses 2-3 yrs ago & started renting. I've been watching the market to see if I want to cost-average in... S&P is down 36% (996, high 1556 in July 2007).
- Mitchell Tsai
Robert: And that's only four quarters. Are you planning to retire any time soon? I sure as hell hope not. And as a leader in the tech industry, people are looking at you to tell them: "Look, everything is crap right now, I'm not sugar coating anything. Things ARE going to get tough. But this what you can do and how you can do it. There *is* hope." You have such a large voice and a huge presence. Don't use it to instill fear, but use it to tell people be realistic but optimistic, and we will pull through.
- Mona Nomura
...unless you truly think we're not.
- Mona Nomura
Aaron: leaving Microsoft was the best thing I could have done for me and my family. Since then I've gotten to meet Queens and Presidential Candidates, not to mention the world's smartest geeks. All stuff I would never have gotten to do if I had stayed at Microsoft. And, if I get laid off, I can always go back!
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I figured. But it deserved a straight answer. :-)
- Robert Scoble
International markets are simply responding to what happens on Wall St. Forget the Nikkei, it's an outlier, the other markets reflect more like 5%, in line with the results from the US overnight (here). Right now, the US moves global markets, not the other way around.
- Warren
i wonder if someone will give me a loan so i can invest in the market right now...
- George Lee
from twhirl
Robert, I'm not going to argue with you on the facts. Right now, it's an emotional issue with you and everyone else. My one observation is that you seem much more pessimistic than most of the people I work with, and I work for Yahoo!
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I promised myself I would stay out of this but I have to at least say this: Robert - who is to say the "truth" you are "reporting" is the right "truth"? Surely you don't see yourself as a economy expert able to say what is and what isn't the "truth". Honestly I wish you'd stop talking about the economy and fear and get back to talking about those "world's smartest geeks" and companies...
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- Brandon LeBlanc
from twhirl
Brandon: that's an interesting point. But if my truth is not the right truth, put out an alternate view of what you view as truth. Don't tell me to shut up. And I refuse to be typecast into a little box of only doing PR for startups. If that's what you think I'm all about you are definitely wrong. By the way, if you want some good news you should read this: http://www.avc.com/a_vc... from Fred Wilson, VC.
- Robert Scoble
There is more to the economy than people's stock portfolio. Mine is down on average 18%. I don't like it but really, the hyberbole here is not in synchrony with the math. The markets are more driven by psychology than math. We can manage our psychology, if we want.
- Roxanne Darling
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Better yet - http://www.rgemonitor.com/
- Aviv
I love how we can have "conversations" thanks to FriedFeed. If this was a topic on a blog, I would read it, but not participate... not sure why...
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Robert, with your awesome contacts and press pass, I would like to see you post some stuff as to what we as common tech folk should do, and when. Something helpful with much information that the geek factor can use to in protecting ourselves. What to plan for? What companies are doing in tech? Does Cisco see a down turn, if not now when? What should we look for in the companies we work for as signs of coming cuts or something. Just keep a close eye on things for us.
- CW™
it is scary down in So Cal too, but somewhat depends where you are and who's talking
- MedicalQuack
from twhirl
As I understand it, Robert is saying (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that we are possibly in deeper trouble than we realize. Now I agree with everyone that we should have hope and look forward to a recovery but I believe Robert is kinda calling for a deep and frank examination of the fundamental issues underlining this in an attempt to ensure this doesn't happen again. Glazing over the eyeballs and only looking forward won't expose the weakness in the system, a system we all have responsibility for.
- Johnny Worthington
John: I certainly am looking for more pushback than I'm getting. That lack of serious pushback (and pushback does NOT mean telling me to "shut up", but providing evidence that I'm wrong) is really freaking me out even more. The fact that I have to go and find my own "anti" evidence is telling me that we aren't really having a good conversation yet about what's going on. That too tells me that there's more downside because if FF'ers aren't able to articulate where the economy is going I have little hope.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, my point wasn't you to go off an do PR for startups. My point was you have the power to influence folks here in such a way it can help ease fears. I don't think you're all about PR for startups. Why I like reading your stuff is because you point out really neat stuff YOU think is cool. You thought some of what Seagate is doing with storage was cool and you talked about that. BTW...
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- Brandon LeBlanc
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I think it's worse than most people can even understand. I thought the downside exposure was the housing bubble burst, until I learned about the credit default swap (CDS) market. It is a huge, never regulated ponzi scheme built on top of the mortgage market that dwarfs the mortgage problem by 10x. The CDS market has collapsed and frozen the commercial credit market. This American Life has an incredible podcast about this. Links and a summary - The Crash of 2008 Explained http://ta.gg/1h8
- Alex Nesbitt
Aaron: I don't think we're at bottom. I think it might solidify at 9,000 for a little while, until financial results start coming in. Then I wouldn't be shocked to find us at 8,000 or below. Once we hit that bottom then I think we can start talking about rebuilding the economy. But that's just my opinion and, you know what they say about opinions! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: if you're looking for folks to tell you it's not gonna get any worse i suspect you're out of luck. if you're looking for some predictions about wher the bottom is, i don't think it's pretty early for that. i, personally, think we'll see resistance@ 9000. i can't get my head around the int'l economies, tho. Pakistan and Iceland are teetering this morning and Europe is just starting to deal.
- MikeAmundsen
Robert, you have a great deal of influence - why spread fear when you can help ease people's fears instead?
- Brandon LeBlanc
from twhirl
Well, here's something to think about Robert: of all the banking crises around the world from 1970 through to today, the average amount injected by governments to bail out their banks has been something like 6% of GDP. Your bailout is, (perhaps not) coincidentally, 6% of your GDP. So either you've got it really bad, and 6% isn't enough, or the bailout will work once its effects flow through.
- Warren
it is scary down in So Cal too, but somewhat depends where you are and who's talking
- MedicalQuack
from twhirl
Brandon: simple: I'm not a propogandist. The day I become one is the day that I lose all that influence you ascribe to me. And, finally, we all have equal voices here on FriendFeed. If you see that I'm wrong, put out an alternate theory!
- Robert Scoble
Sorry about the duplicate post,
- MedicalQuack
from twhirl
You don't have to be at rock-bottom to cost-average in...just as you don't have to sell at the tops. Or mimic some institutions and slide in-out positions partially (e.g. 25-50-75% at a time). You don't make the maximum gains, but you can be happy about "hey. I pulled 25% out, and bought back in x% cheaper in one month". Gives some happy news in a down market. I started investing just after the 1987 crash (86 college grad), so I grew up on down-markets. They're opportunities!
- Mitchell Tsai
Scoobie, you were moaning that McCain was going to win 2 weeks ago - and you knew more about that than you do about the economy. Just do your job we subscribed to you for and shut up about all your amateur feelings.
- Morgan Warstler
Waht blows me away is all the money going towards R and D, millions, but someone has to be able to afford the end result product or service somewhere down the line
- MedicalQuack
from twhirl
We're not in an endless downward spiral because eventually it'll get to zero and stop. Okay, seriously, there are still real assets out there. What's happening is the leverage applied to those assets is going away. We should not get too far below 1:1 or else... I'll buy it up.
- Morton Fox
Aaron. Stop-losses are a classic exit technique. You can also use multiple stop-losses (e.g. 1/3 sell at -15%, -25%, and -35%). That set doesn't help you now that the market is down 36%, but consider a new set of stop losses at -36%, -40%, and -45%. If the market tanks & goes down 60%, you'll be patting yourself on the back. If the market goes up tomorrow after selling 1/3 at 36%, you can be sad about taking a little loss, and happy that the other 2/3 has recovered. Find happiness either way.
- Mitchell Tsai
If you are down 36%, you need a 56% gain to recover. But if you are down 50%, you need a 100% gain to recover. That 14% difference is crucial. Difficult lesson of stocks - "Sell your losers, Hold your winners". I didn't think the potential gain in 2007 (given China's boom and the sky-high stocks) was worth the possible losses from a crazy housing bubble. Yeah, I've only made a lousy 4% in 2007 and 2008. I think in 1991 I made -1%, and was happy I beat the -4% S&P.
- Mitchell Tsai
I actually have to agree with you Robert.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
.. and the tsunami has not hit europe. yet. i'm simply tryin' to take cover, and abandon all investments. then, we'll see.
- Marco Scano
I think fear is good, because we've been on such a high for the last few years. "Irrational exuberance" in the housing market is as much of a problem as it was in the tech stock. Getting back to the fundamental with a balance of fear and greed is not neccessary a bad thing.
- Eric Lau
My thoughts here: http://www.jeremytoeman.com/why-im-...
- Jeremy Toeman
They have a point because fear feeds on itself. We are seeing politicians play on our fears right now, trying to use fear to their advantage. But fear mostly comes from the unknown. We should discuss our fears. Understand them and then realize that the worst case scenarios aren't that bad.
- ChiliMac
FriendFeed should add a time stamp at the end of each message ... Robert, I did not buy GOOG ... saved a few dollars; Thanks!
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
I advertised for an administrative assistant to help with email this morning? What happened? So far 63 more pieces of email! :-)
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Hehehe
- Alex Scoble
You may need an administrative assistant to help with email from people applying to be your email administrative assistant. :)
- Morton Fox
Sounds like you need an assistant for that admin, Robert. Thought about getting one?
- WorldofHiglet
I think you'll soon need an Office Manager to handle all your assistants.... this is good stuff, single handed action to rescue the economy and stem the employment crisis in one swoop - way to lead by example!
- David HC Soul
will the email assistant need an assistant to check his/her email? where will the madness end? or will you hire a google reader assistant? a friendfeed assistant?? a twitter assitant?
- Jonathan Jesse
Catch22 for sure! Keep this up and you'll need an entire company to sort out all this stuff /manage biz for ya! :)
- Susan Beebe
Wouldn't you need a mini-me to handle your emails?
- Christine Cavalier
would you prefer a DM instead? ;-)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Scoble hates DM and never answers them...so no
- Susan Beebe
@ Susan, i know...just couldn't resist :)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Jeff LOL!! heheheheeeeee!
- Susan Beebe
if you end up with >1 good candidate, please lemme know, I think I may be hiring one as well...
- Jeremy Toeman
You need someone to help with your email
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Oh the irony. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
When you get candidates, have them create a FriendFeed account, and we can do a crowdsourced, public, interview.
- Louis Gray
OOOH Louis That's genius...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
they won't know what hit em! :)
- Zee.
As much as I like the idea generally, how would that help determine how well they can help with email?
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I am actually interviewing also; have several plans laid out for filtering, replies, bookings, and To Do; looking forward to hiring someone soon!
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
I'm completely overwhelmed and am missing deadlines, meetings, deliverables. I apologize in advance to anyone.
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You need to say 'no' more often mate. You're too nice and your time is valuable
- Chris Saad
from twhirl
take it easy JO.
- Kingsley Joseph
from twhirl
I know the feeling!
- Jesse Stay
I am in the same boat; swimming is a good skill right now.
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
I *LOVE* that feeling...it's a high of success and life on the edge. I totally THRIVE on that... YES...bring it!
- Susan Beebe
no wonder at the pace you twitter!
- Joe Buhler
Should You Tweet A Blog Post? - http://pr.typepad.com/pr_comm...
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John, I think the deeper answer is that if you are a good Twitter citizen and provide valuable updates (other people's links, key industry observations, etc.) than it's okay to throw out your blog link once in a while. If that's all you do, than probably not.
- Aaron Strout
Depends on the user (is that all they ever tweet? = No.) Depnds on the manner (is it a tease or do you know what the link is about?) Depends on the content (Is post useful or self-prmoting only? = No)
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
just went through 1200 unread items in gReader. oomph.
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You are my gReader Guru Drew
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
I do that all the time. It is called the "Mark all as read" button. If anything is worthwhile to know about from 3 days ago, it would have been discussed already. :)
- EricaJoy
Mark All As Read = FAIL
- Louis Gray
Mark All As Read == sanity :P
- EricaJoy
That's nothing. :-P
- Jesse Stay
Wow, that's gangsta. I'm looking for the button to just mark all as read.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
♪♫♪♫ On the road again. After pitstop to let RV cool down; she got bit overheated. Hmm. Always the metaphors for life. LOL.
Are you saying your RV is having hot flashes?? LOL!
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
How many of you run a Twitter desktop client? If so, how do you stay sane and still get work done? I don't because the draw is too big.
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I tried it but it made me crazy....
- Seagate
I tried Twril for FF and it drove me crazy.
- Roberto Bonini
I run Twirl but only turn it on when doing tasks that don
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
I run TweetDeck in the smaller of the two monitors on my desk. It's really not a distraction - I glance at it when I have time, ignore it when I'm busy.
- Mitch Wagner
I use Twhirl for both Twitter and FriendFeed. It's a lot like have a rubber chicken on top of your monitor all day.
- Keith Shepard
from twhirl
I twirl but only have it running when I'm not doing anything critical. Otherwise work would cease
- David Miller
Twhirl for Seesmic and Twitter. Deadly!
- Kate Foy
i like Digsby for desktop Twitter usage
- Nathan Chase
I use twhirl and it's not really a distraction. I have it set to ding only when I have a reply/DM.
- Mattie Kenny
My twhirl is set like Mattie's so I only look over when I get a chance or hear a ding.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
twhirl.my settings are the same as mattie's.
- Admiral Anika
I tried Twhirl, Alert Thingy and Snackr, hated them all as a big distraction (as RescueTime was quick to illustrate)! Turned them all off and use the web or iPhone at selected points in the day.
- Sally Church
Twhirl, but I only keep it open when I can afford to be distracted
- Matt Creamer
works for me...i run identica in twhirl (man, doesn't that sound elitist given this thread!) plus ff in prism on my tv (which is my second monitor) all day. used to run snackr, but there were some memory issues, so i stopped.
- Trent Olson
I used to. But foresaw this point some time ago. Besides, Adobe Air sucks my measly supply of RAM dry. The web interface works fine for me.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
I no longer do. Twitter 'read' time once in the morning and once in the evening/night.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Yah it's *hard* to multitask. I run twhirl and I can't take my eyes away from it at times.
- David Cook - 2010!!!
I turn it off if I'm busy - but it works exactly the same why as Firefox email, so you get the same "ambient interruptability" :)
- Broadstuff
from Alert Thingy
I had a discussion about this the other day. I've had to turn down the frequency of updates to keep myself from being interrupted by Pavlov's "ding" every 5 minutes.
- Jeremy Hall
I used to run Twhirl, but now use Fluid with a sidebar for FriendFeed and rely on that for Twitter.
- elroy
Twhirl - and I've given up on staying sane. (i stopped mostly using it for FF now though, that is way too crazy)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Twirl (and AlertThingy) - and I use this cool feature called "Exit" when it gets to be too much... just click the "X" at the top right. Pretty neat! :-)
- Ron Emrick
from Alert Thingy
tweetdeck ... actually use it to monitor chatter about work related topics. I run it on my secondary monitor
- Deepak Singh
I use twhirl. Disabled distracting pop-up notifications, now I rarely look at it at all. I keep up to date through FF instead.
- Philip John
Twhirl, on a virtual desktop of its own in OS X, so I can forget about it
- David Rosam
from twhirl
no twitter client - had to turn it off... noise = no work (loved TweetDeck client though!!)
- Susan Beebe
@coacheva Okay, Eva - you ready for this??!! Mari gets Oprah on Facebook & Twitter: http://www.bitstrips.com/user...
You did! Awesome Mari. Awesome!
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
@CandaceHolly: how can you POSSIBLY say Twitter hasn't hit the mainstream yet? Please do tell me that. I've seen it on 3 cable networks.
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I haven't seen Twitter *anywhere* save two news articles. Other than that..on the internet. Every single person I work with I try to convince to use Twitter. They never heard of it. My family? Same thing. Friends that aren't of the geeky persuasion? Same thing. Twitter hasn't quite picked up yet.
- Candace
and CSI !! :)
- Markingegno - Donato
I've been terribly critical of Twitter. But I think it's breaking through to the mainstream -- and maturing as a platform.
- Chris Baskind
come on scoble. mainstream means USERS not press. twitter is far from that... yet. I don't see mass media's use of it any different than myspace and facebook before it. Media attention does not mean success. Go anywhere outside of the Valley and nobody knows what Twitter is. That's not mainstream.
- Patricia
I watched what's his name on CNN trying to explain Twitter just this morning.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Patricia: you and Candace really need to turn on CNN and watch for an hour. They have been talking about Twitter all day long. Also, I've seen it now discussed in hundreds of newspapers, magazines, and on more than three cable networks now. How much more does it need to "go mainstream?"
- Robert Scoble
Mainstream among the tech crowd. Ask your friend who's a teacher or dentist or attorney what Twitter is and wait for the blank stare.
- Brett Nordquist
it needs multiple millions of domestic users. until then, it represents under ONE percent of US internet users. not mainstream.
- Jeremy Toeman
was it on the VMAs?
- Eric Rice
Eric: I don't know, I don't watch those. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I work in entertainment, media and tech. I say, "are you on twitter?" majority say no. i love twitter, great example of the future of device agnostic communications and also how social networks will be communications/utility platforms in the future (or can be) BUT if 95% of the people i encounter have no idea what it is, it is not mainstream. It is nothing to get on the media -...
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- Patricia
I heard twitter mentioned on Foxnews, I was so excited.
- Colide81 (James)
But ask most people what Windows Vista is and you'll also get a blank stare.. and thats definitly supposed to be mainstream by now! or ask facebook users what chat is and half of them would probably say they didnt know you could do that.. and its at the bottom of the page lol!
- Thethirdeye.org
by the way, its okay to like twitter and root for it and it *not* be mainstream... mainstream doesn't mean "better".
- Jeremy Toeman
Mainstream compared to e-mail? Facebook? MySpace? AIM? Text messaging in general? I don't think Twitter is anywhere near 1% of the U.S. population. Based on leaked numbers, I'd put them closer to 1/10 of a percent.
- Mark Jaquith
from twhirl
My father told me about twitter when I was at my family reunion this past summer. If HE knows about it, it's most definitely mainstream.
- Prolific Programmer
@CandaceHolly Rick Sanchez, CNN presenter is on Twitter and says so on his show every few minutes.
- Prolific Programmer
Sigh.
- Patricia
/me chuckles.
- Eric Rice
@JeremyToeman AGREED!
- Eddie Sherman
You are both right in a way, twitter has reached the main stream media, but has only started to penetrate main street america, none of my family or nontech friend use it.
- Kim Landwehr
None, not one, zero of my non 'tech' friends has heard of (or mentioned to me at any rate), let alone uses Twitter. Of my real-world friends in technology, only two use it and neither of those is active. Facebook is where it is at for better or (more likely), worse. The situation may well be different in the US but that is my experience in the UK and Aus.
- mattpovey
Speak to Tom Webster, analyst at Edison Research. Twitter penetration is very minuscule outside of tech circles.
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
Matt, I thin it's pretty much the same in the US also. Whenever I mention Twitter to non-connected friends I almost always get a blank stare. But if I say SMS, then they know what that is.
- R. Alexander Spoerer
I don't think it has hit mainsteam - i don't have to explain to people what Facebook is but I sure do need when talking about twitter
- Anthony Feint
I agree with Anthony Feint.
- Calvin Robinson
from twhirl
Doing IT Around The World - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Brilliant Roxanne! Amazing to see how Beach Walks has grown!
- tagami
Thank you Ted! I was so thriled to be included on this project; Just launched a few hours ago!
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
Alexa isn't as reliable as you may think: http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums...
I am not sure who thinks it is reliable; audience skew has been discussed a lot; though people do get attached to their pretend data sources!
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
You'd be surprised how many people consider Alexa to be reliable. Steve knows the truth though: http://tinyurl.com/5wf5og
- byteful traveller
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