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Louis Gray
California's New Sport: Balancing the Cell Phone Below the Dashboard - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Louis ... Don't sweat it. Only a matter of time before cars drive themselves :) - Charlie Anzman
Hmmm. I plead the fifth. - Robert Scoble
Guilty - tomio geron
Jawbones marketing campaign is great. You know what would be a good marketing move? Auto sellers offering add-on Bluetooth speaker and headsets for free in california. Or making these free as incentives to buy other services(more expensive ofcourse) instead of having ipod shuffle raffles. - Akshay Dodeja
super-guilty. women have been driving for decades staring in the rear view mirror doing their eye-liner and they're no laws against that. - Morgan
OMG I'm not the only one? I am so guilty of this. - Adrienne Van Houten
Add me to the guilty list. Like your average 8th grader, I can text with my eyes closed (and out of police view). Super dangerous. - Jennifer Mitchell
A great comment on the post on what is approved and what's not: http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
what i like about the law is that totally legal for me to text while driving, yet i can't put the phone to my ear. - Admiral Anika
i'd just like to point out that, since the onset of this law, i've ridden at least three Los Angeles buses with drivers chattering happily into cell phones held to their ears. where was i when we finished resolving the whole drunk driving issue? because it must be resolved for this to matter so much. interesting that we managed to take care of that when our buses and trains still stop running an hour before the bars close. - idnan
Funny post! But I think CA should have gone one step further and outlawed using a cell phone altogether (talking, texting, browsing, email) while the car is in motion! As the post pointed out, people are now more distracted trying to use their phones without getting caught - Jeff P. Henderson
Robert Scoble
Diigo-social bookmarking - http://qik.com/video/104703
This is freaking awesome. Great way to bookmark things, collaboate on them, get them onto Twitter and, soon, FriendFeed. http://www.diigo.com - Robert Scoble
I moved from diijgo back to delicious because delicious was supported by FF and diigo was not. What is the number one reason why diigo is better than delicious? - Thomas Hawk
You can get them onto Friendfeed now - they just added the feature a few days ago. - David Worrell
I've been using Diigo for months now. I don't use all the features, but I still think it's much better than delicious or magnolia, & I've been trying to convert all my friends...rather unsuccessfully :( - Jennifer Van Grove from twhirl
I tried Diigo. And I was impressed, but their Firefox extension isn't as good the Del.icio.us add-on. And that matters. A lot. - mrshl
I am skeptical that most of the commenters here probably work for diigo. I already use evernote.com and I love it, so why would I switch? http://www.evernote.com What do you think of that Mr. Scoble? - the constant skeptic
@Thomas, get the best of both worlds and set up auto-post to Del.icio.us from Diigo. That's what I do since a lot of services don't use my diigo stream but will use del.icio.us. My favorite feature of Diigo is the annotation stuff (highlighting stuff on the page and making notes). And the FireFox sidebar is quite nice and handy. Surprised Diigo is new to you, Robert! - Fa La La La Lindsay
I use diigo to keep bookmarks both on ma.gnolia and del.icio.us, I like both services for different reasons, I hate double let alone triple posting but that have suited me pretty well so far - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I downloaded the toolbar and it promptly crashed FF3 4 times I had to disable it :( - Sally Church
It's cute - but I am not goign to trust them with that much info. delicious has my bookmarks but the important annotations and clippings live in OneNote, on my own drive, backed up alone with my other data. Why build all that knwoledge into a website app I may or may not be able to ever extract it from? - Soulhuntre from twhirl
but someone answer this one question. What is one significant reason why diigo is better than delicious. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas it's not directly better, but ma.gnolia is better than del.icio.us(microformats, community, design) del.icio.us is an old giant whitch has all of us locked because of it's popularity, haven't seen one new thing from them lately - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I used to use Magnolia but then the "bookmark this" marklet thingy stopped working and when I contacted them they blamed my browser (Firefox) there was no easy fix so I switched back to delicious. I'm all for new technology, but it has to be be better than the current iteration. So why again is diigo better than delicious? I need more than just it's the newest thing. - Thomas Hawk
yes the main reason I stayed with del.icio.us beside the exposure was the extension, but other than that ma.gnolia doesn't have issues and is pretty nice place to hang out, can disagre that the thank you mail is a neat feature. After all if you're happy with a service living in the past, fine I say thank God flickr isn't following the same path - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Thomas et al: the coolest part of this I've found is the annotation feature. It's like Word/Acrobat annotations where you can add sticky notes and highlights and such directly to pages you bookmark. I'm not too familiar with delicious (I use magnolia myself), and I'm not really into social bookmarking, so I can't really explain too much on that end. - Mark Trapp
Mento supports FriendFeed as well. (and Twitter, delicious, magnolia, Tumblr) And it supports custom screenshots with every bookmark (even works with Skitch) What makes Diigo better than Mento? (http://mento.info) - Bwana ☠
Bwana, so far, it's like Ma.gnolia with the ability to annotate a page on the page itself. It's a neat trick. - Mark Trapp
Ah I see, but will people have the patience to do this correctly? I could see some use in it - Bwana ☠
I work with clients who swear by similar features in Office and Acrobat. I could use this, especially since I can share my annotations with friends. Plus, it seems to have feature parity with Magnolia only zippier. I'm switching for the time being. - Mark Trapp
This is very cool for collaboration (as probably noted already by Robert). Question though, do you have to sign up for Diigo in order to view the annotations? - Bwana ☠
Playing with the "Diigoet " (essentially a toolbar) in Safari, and it looks like as long as you have that (or a Diigo toolbar), you can see all public annotations on a page. Interesting. - Mark Trapp
Ugh, ok. One can hope. - Bwana ☠
The toolbar also provides alexa type information regarding bookmarking: http://twurl.nl/l1maqe - Mark Trapp
so then the only reason to use diigo over delicious is so that you can view annotations? I'm not sure this is a compelling enough reason to switch. - Thomas Hawk
Find the ability to annotate and highlight useful. For me, it's worth switching. - Tom Landini
And while most of my tags are still one word, I do occasionally find the ability to use multi-word tags useful. Diigo lets me do that. - David Worrell
Wish this were in the form of a screencast video .. cell phone cameras aren't just ready to capture computer screens. - Amit Agarwal
Between Scoble and Gray, I now say 'morning' to my wife and spend the rest of the day playing with new (free) toys. Is something wrong with this picture? - Charlie Anzman
@Charlie: I don't know. sounds pretty good to me. What do you do at the end of the day? - edythe
@Charlie, why waste your morning like that? - Louis Gray
Dave Winer
Seven reasons FriendFeed Sucks - http://weblogs.goshaky.com/weblogs...
I agree about the recommendations. Every time I get the same ones. I'd like a button that says "Not Interested" and let me have some different ones. It's all the usual suspects all talking about each other. Bleh. - Dave Winer
Wow, thanks for the share, Dave. I'm deleting my account. This guy is right. Can't believe I've been so oblivious. - Aviv
My employer's browser is blocking your site? Hmnnnn? :) - Mathew A. Koeneker
the site in the link kills IE (and please don't tell me to use Firefox instead; I'm not on my "normal" machine) - Andrew Terry
For a service that's just getting started, FriendFeed's doing a great job. I know his points are mostly recommendations, but the blog post title is cynical link-bait. Given the thoughtful article content, he could have done better. - Edd Dumbill from twhirl
I like all of these suggestions except the "getsatisfaction" one...this is a small company, and there is no way they can be all over the place. In fact, company-customer interaction would most appropriately take place within friendfeed, perhaps in a room. I have never before heard of getsatisfaction.com - Zach Landes
great post from lars. agree in all and more comes in mind. - kosmar
Attention grabbing headline but good post, I like the rework of the black Friendfeed Widget with Fluid - Joe Dawson
"bad customer service" he must not be visiting the same FriendFeed I am; I think the "customer" (we aren't really customers are we?) service here rocks. - Benjamin Golub
Good suggestions. I'd take them more seriously without the sensationalist headline, though. - Tom Harrison
I like Lars' post, except he was way too harsh on the customer satisfaction bit. Bret and Paul are REALLY responsive and actively engaged in FF development and improving their product based on *customer* feedback, that's why they created the FriendFeed Feedback room. So Lars just doesn't get FF yet. However, the rest of his feature requests / improvements are really good. I especially like # 2 in his list. Not bad. - Susan Beebe
@Andrew the link works find in Safari and Firefox .. the reason it stalls in IE is because of a "doc" rewrite back to the page page. I did a google on the error given and this is a known bug in IE7 - Steven Hodson
@Tom I didn't like the headline myself - smacked of linkbait more than anything else - Steven Hodson
Yes the LINK BAIT was super lame and annoying... don't insult your readers.... gees. - Susan Beebe
#1, irrelevant if you are not using an RSS reader. RSS is dead. #2 I don't mind fragmentation. #3 recommended contacts could definitely be improved. #4 agreed. #5 Facebook is irrelevant, #6 small team better spent working on customer service here than at getsatisfaction. #7 nah, maybe down the road, better to build a plug in to handle comments on Blogger (at least in my biased opinion). - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas I would love to see a comments plugin for Blogger! - Joe Dawson
@Thomas Hawk - excuse me? how do you see RSS as being dead? That's a fairly big limg you're hanging yourself out on there - Steven Hodson
Steven, it's dead to me. I abandoned my RSS reader when I found FriendFeed a far better use of my time for finding interesting content on the internet. Social filters beat the random mess I previously used called RSS hands down. I don't need RSS feeds out of FF. - Thomas Hawk
Joe, so would Louis Gray and I. A plug in to allow FF to become the default commenting system for Blogger blogs would be slick. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, do you want FriendFeed comments on Blogger? I've got them running right now. See: http://tinyurl.com/58hqn5 - Louis Gray
I think what's most awful about this post is that he didn't even put ads on the page. What's the point of blog trolling if you're not going to make money from it? Needs to read my sure-fire strategy to get rich quick at blogging: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mark Trapp
Thomas, with FF as the default commenting system on Blogger, only folks with a FF account will be able to comment. - Dewald Pretorius
Interesting. - Alex Hammer
@Dewald. Good, maybe it will encourage more of them to sign up for FF ;) - Thomas Hawk
just installed Pat Hawk's Blogger comments FF plug in by the way. Seems to be working well so far. Wish it included a link back to the FF post directly, but other than that it's pretty damn awesome, thanks Louis! - Thomas Hawk
I can only think FF will improve... and far more quickly than Twitter. - Bill Sodeman
@Thomas Do you follow any blogs regularly? RSS in a sidebar is a much easier way to follow someone and make sure you havent missed any of their posts than trying to find their name in your friendfeed friends list - at least I think so. - Zach Landes
By the way...check out my number one friendfeed feature suggestion at my blog, I think everyone will agree it's a must have: http://snipurl.com/2jgrb - Zach Landes
Zach, I used to use Google Reader and Newsgator before that and Bloglines before that. I've used RSS for many years. The fact of the matter is that an RSS reader quickly clogs up with boring stuff. On FF the best of blog posts get promoted and even if your favorite blogger isn't on FF you can add their blog as an "imaginary friend" FF is far superior to any RSS reader I've ever used. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, why does it get clogged up? Perhaps you're using the wrong reader. Not fair to blame it on RSS, it's the software designers that did this to you, not RSS. - Dave Winer
Dave FF is a far better social filter a certain type of almost AI if you will that no RSS reader that I'm aware of incorporates. I've used many different RSS readers though. They are one dimensional. FF is two dimensional. You can read any RSS feed inside of FF. No need for any other outside reader. I still have an account on Google Reader, I just never go there anymore. - Thomas Hawk
@Dave. Hide is enormously helpful in getting through the clogs. The main reason my RSS reader gets clogged up is because even the best bloggers (myself included) mostly blog about uninteresting things. Despite their ability to serve me something super interesting one out of ten posts. FF gives you the "best" of the bloggers that you love to follow. - Thomas Hawk
Well I know a thing or two about RSS readers and I've talked with hundreds of users, and I recognize your concerns, you've been using RSS readers that think RSS is email and RSS is not email. FF is the first reader you've used that doesn't. However Thomas, there are other readers that don't think it's email, and work much better. I'm not trying to sell you something, or argue, just wanted to state an opposing viewpoint, since this is a thread I started. Peace. - Dave Winer
The article is wrong on multiple accounts. For instance, RSS feeds are available for nearly all pages. - Mike Reynolds
Dave, is there any RSS reader that filters and recommends via a social network as powerfully as FriendFeed? And if not, and if the natural filtering that FF provides is your thing, maybe FF is the best RSS reader of all? - Thomas Hawk
First of all, thank you Dave for linking it and sorry for the sensationalist title, I will not do it again. I would like to comment on some of the points mentioned here in the discussion: #1 no feeds for summaries: at the time of writing my article, it was not there yet, now we have the feature, but if you subscribe to the feed, you will see that it is not really useful as long as all comments are in one line and as long as the images for service icons are missing. - Lars Trieloff
Regarding #6, bad customer support: you can use FriendFeed rooms for customer support, but it is not the best tool for it. getsatisfaction offers a good tool (that allows you to track status of your suggestions, instead of scrolling out of mind), and there are already people asking questions and waiting for support. I've been also subscribed to the FriendFeed google group and have not been impressed either. Relying purely on social media for support, means the biggest attention grabber wins (today it's me) - Lars Trieloff
Regarding #7, having URL-based search is essential for everyone trying to build a blog plugin. If you do not want the FriendFeed guys to dilute their time spent with building plugins for each and every blog platform out there, ask them to provide an API to do it on your own. The hack I am using on my blog got my original post in my feed, but not this, more intense, debate. - Lars Trieloff
Eric Eldon
Why Facebook is now the number one social network in the world, and why this matters - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Really good breakdown on Facebook's value and how it differs from MySpace. Facebook is getting bigger. With huge growth, smart employees, and plenty of money, they need to stay on your radar. - Hutch Carpenter
thanks, guys. however, i think most reporters and bloggers disagree with me. uh oh! - Eric Eldon
Wow, that's a great article. - Ashwin Bharambe
eric i disagree with your assumption that most bloggers disagree. - MG Siegler
I like your take on the cultural differences of the sites. I think a lot of social media gets lumped together as one in the same thing. I like to think of sites and different cities or neighborhoods. Anyone know of any good cultural overviews of the top social sites? I'm always curious why a person may choose Bebo over myspace, or whatever. - Ginger Makela Riker
Do we have short memories???,we've seen this growth and promise with Yahoo! back in april 2000 , Checkout this article from the MOtley Fool Yahoo!: Built to Last http://www.fool.com/news... .. where is YAhoo now? "Starting with usage metrics, Yahoo!'s unique users increased to 145 million versus 120 million in December. Even more impressive, the company's database of... more... - Dh'ennis Dömingö
myspace and facebook are not the only services to look at when you leave the english sphere. The numbers for myspace (now with official IVW numbers) and facebook for germany are not as high as you would like to expect from the report above, in fact the german copy cat of facebook holds the absolute market number one position for pupils and students. it will be a long long long way for facebook to be able to crack that. - Nicole Simon
@Dennis Domingo I know it's obvious to you, but can you explain in more detail why you think Yahoo and Facebook are similar? - Eric Eldon
@Nicole Simon That's a good point about domestic competitors and I should have mentioned it somewhere in the article. I've previously written about the challenges of Facebook/MySpace and others in breaking into some of country-specific markets. Still, I've heard Facebook's traffic in Germany is doing well. - Eric Eldon
Pat Hawks
FriendFeed Comments in Blogger - http://feeds.pathawks.com/~r...
You can now import all your FriendFeed comments into your Blogger posts. You're welcome. - Pat Hawks
you're close but there are still a couple things throwing errors from what i can gather - first is those ampersands. - MG Siegler
I added this to my template, but don't see anything. Could it be because I'm running Disqus? - Louis Gray
it didn't throw XML errors for you Louis? - MG Siegler
I haven't seen any. I'm posting again. - Louis Gray
It works! See it here: http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
ooh very cool louis, not sure why i'm still getting XML errors, i'll keep plugging away at it later - MG Siegler
silly me, it was the greater than and less than signs, duh. anyways still not quite there with it working yet, but no more errors :) - MG Siegler
OK, I'm convinced ... trying it in an hour - Charlie Anzman
boom. got it. i'll post on the fix later on. check it out. http://www.parislemon.com/2008... - MG Siegler
Friday Tips #5: Bringing Comments Back to Your Blog http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
i am still seeing a conflict with linkbacks i'll work more on it later - MG Siegler
hmmm expanded the widgets and all and I didn't find any of these lines, I think I've just got some many tweaks to the base code - BCK
pretty sure a limitation here is that they have to be recent comments on friendfeed (so they're in your feed), is that that same with the wordpress plug-in? - MG Siegler
Didn't realize that this would work, even if you have Disqus. Will have to try it out. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Yeah - the RSS and JSON has a history limitation, which is why I'm trying to work on a server side solution. It's a bit of a pain, because it means stuff has to get imported to a database. I'd much rather be able to make queries to FF's db thru the api (by the muid?), because I really don't want to maintain another database that mirrors theirs. Seems sorta silly. Not to mention I'm not as good at creating good DBs as them. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Rizzn - For sure, the best solution would be if FriendFeed did this themselves... - Pat Hawks
Still, great job on this Pat. Looks great on my site. - MG Siegler
@MG Siegler - You're right, there is a history limitation. This will only find comments on your last 90 blog posts. - Pat Hawks
Steve Rubel
Kids Believe Technology Will Supplement (Not Replace) Books - http://www.inquisitr.com/1014...
"75% of kids age 5-17 agree with the statement, 'No matter what I can do online, I’ll always want to read books printed on paper'" - Steve Rubel
When Kindle costs $7 and never runs out of batteries, maybe that will change! ;-) - Jason Wehmhoener
The notion widely held, that there is something sacred about the look, feel and smell of printed paper, is going to go away -- it's an ephemeral convention. Also headed for the dustbin of history is the belief that the optimal window on text is a rectangle the size of a standard hardcopy or paperback book. People tend to confuse conditioning and learned habits with eternal laws. - Sean McBride
Sean: the paper book is a superior technology. That's the meaning of my earlier tongue-in-cheek comment. - Jason Wehmhoener
Not to mention, reading books printed on paper results in less eye strain than reading material on a computer screen. - Eula
Adults Believe Books are Technology - l0ckergn0me
Snarky People Use Title Caps - Jason Wehmhoener
Just so you know my bias: my mom's a librarian. I grew up reading books on paper. If you're not an obsessive page-turner of actual books, then you really don't know what you're missing. - Jason Wehmhoener
dave mcclure
Calculus in 20 Minutes Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Calculus in 20 Minutes Part 1
Play
I can grow calculus on my teeth, but that's about it. - l0ckergn0me
this has to be the funniest explanation that also was accurate I've seen in a long time - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
This video is no longer available? :( - AJ Batac
Scott Beale
what an aweome video / song! - Chris Jones from twhirl
Best video i've seen in an awful long time. so meta! - Chrimmus Tad
Such a great great band. I was trying to describe them to some people in Mexico yesterday ... not so easy. The irony gets killed by the language barrier. - Clay Newton
Dope! - Tim Moore
Evan Williams
Wow, @sacca sent over a chair masseuse for the Twitter team. When things go poorly, the perks around here get better. Thanks!
But doesn't that create the wrong incentives? ;) (edit: I'm just kidding, in case the ;) didn't make that clear -- I have a lot of sympathy for their situation. People don't understand how difficult it can be to operate these large scale services) - Paul Buchheit
It's like giving your kid $50 for bringing home all F's. I just don't get it. - Bwana ☠
Actually, I think my earlier comment misses the mark so I am deleting it. What I really want to say: 1) There used to be a culture here in the Valley where you didn't mock someone else's outage or even call attention to it. Because they happen to everyone. *Everyone.* 2) I admire all of these armchair fauxcoders who think they have it all figured out and that somehow the Twitter engineers just smoke blunts and play GTA 4 all day 3) Twitter is changing the way we all communicate and doing so with... - Christopher Sacca
... some tools that were never intended to be used this way or at this scale. Clearly what they have built is pretty fascinating to a large number of people because it is growing not like a weed, but like that plant in Little Shop of Horrors (though, I have yet to see Twitter eat anyone) 4) Even if I were to agree with you that somehow Twitter engineers were due some blame for "failing" (fucking absurd notion) these are the guys who are busting their asses trying to fix it all so that each of you... - Christopher Sacca
Bah. Deleting my comments since they seem silly without the contents of Sacca's. - Kevin Fox
Good Christ people, aim your vitriol at something worthy of it, like the Bush Administration for bringing torture and shame to our country. - Jason Shellen
... and the millions more like you that I expect to join in the next three months, can continue to use, exploit, grow, and improve what is quickly becoming the largest and most open device and network agnostic communications platform we have seen created in the last 10 years. - Christopher Sacca
Upset? - Bwana ☠
Sorry, to be clear that was more directed at all haters and not at the FF crew. - Jason Shellen
Where are these haters? - Bwana ☠
And to be clear, the Twitter engineers either smoke blunts *or* play GTA 4 all day. Never both. At least not on Fridays. - Christopher Sacca
I don't have the means to send something like that over there. I don't really even use Twitter but as a fellow start up person I send my moral support to the Twitter folks. We all need it sometimes. - Capn' One Eye - adrift
Bwana, you are the same one who wrote the $50 for all F's comment, sounds like hating to me. Also, there has been plenty of focus on the negative things that have been happening at Twitter over the past 3 or 4 days to realize that you are not the only one. - Jason Shellen
I'm not blaming anyone and agree that things are supposed to go wrong...but count me out on the pity party. I don't feel bad for the group that has $15M+ to fix a scaling problem and figure out a business model. 99 out of 100 startups should be so lucky. Send the pizza and masseuses to some startup that deserves some love but ain't getting it. - JonathanJoseph
Jason, well it's the truth. Doesn't mean I'm hating Twitter. I expressed I don't understand rewarding in this situation. And if you follow me, you know that I am on Twitter's side and am making efforts to help the situation. If something is bad, I say it's bad. If it's good, I say it's good. In this case, we have both. That's just me. Sorry if it's coming across as hating Twitter, because it's just the opposite. No one wants to hear the truth. - Bwana ☠
I still think that providing them with a keg wasn't a good idea. At least a massage is supposed to make you MORE productive. - Ontario Emperor
Some call it, a discussion :) - Bwana ☠
@jason But what makes Twitter "work"? What makes it so worthwhile to all of us? Because it is wide open and does not preordain any specific use case. Last time Biz mentioned a public number he noted that, when compared to Twitter's web traffic, 23x more comes through the Twitter API. That is f'ing bananas. - Christopher Sacca
@Jason I think you, and others, use it expressly because its open and innovative and the impressive stats are proof of that. Do I think users care about definitions of openness and network agnosticism? No. But, they clearly appreciate the breadth of clients and sites that connect to Twitter, and the relentlessly intriguing uses of Twitter that emerge every day. Do we all wish it would be up more? Sure. That said, I think it is pretty lame to go back and expand your prior comments without calling that out. - Christopher Sacca
Now that Twitter is down, again, does that mean I can show up at their offices expecting an empty massage chair? - JonathanJoseph
@Sacca re "There used to be a culture here in the Valley where you didn't mock someone else's outage or even call attention to it. Because they happen to everyone. *Everyone.*" While that may be admirable from a technical basis, it's not admirable from a business basis. Not the mocking part, but from a business perspective, things are supposed to run. Twitter knows this. Repeated... more... - Ontario Emperor
@OE, I don't think anyone's arguing that the outages don't need to be fixed. I think people are arguing with the "these outages need to be fixed. You have thirty seconds. Go." attitude that I've seen distressingly often this week. - Chris Anthony
Chris, my personal beef, which wasn't really addressed until this week, was that Twitter was slow in communicating. There was at least one instance in which one weekend comment elicited two comments from Twitter, one occurring several hours later, the other occurring several days later. This week they are doing MUCH better in communicating to their users more rapidly. (Not that I'd buy them a keg of beer in gratitude; I want them to be sharp!) - Ontario Emperor
Same with me Ontario. I was very encouraged to see the communication. I'm willing to put up with a LOT if you communicate with me. I'm still with Dreamhost. Nuff said. :) - Bwana ☠
break a leg. - DC Crowley from Alert Thingy
I think it's great that you did that. Ya'll are getting hammered, and there's work to do on your end, but keep truckin'. - Clay Newton
Jason, I don't think you can truthfully talk about these outages being "constant for months" unless you're willing to count every time you've received a "there is something technically wrong" message. Most people talking about this are talking about the last few weeks; the outages before that were isolated incidents. Either way, you're overreacting and dogpiling, and it doesn't become /anyone/ to do either. - Chris Anthony
Jason, I'll gladly consider you that way. I don't agree that Twitter is going down the tubes, but you're entitled to your opinion. I do, however, think that you would do well to consider whether your frustration and upset at their failings is coloring your commentary, and whether you want it to be. - Chris Anthony
"I admire all of these armchair fauxcoders who think they have it all figured out and that somehow the Twitter engineers just smoke blunts and play GTA 4 all day" -- LOL. No, clearly they also make time for free pizza and massages. [rimshot] I kid, I kid! Plus, faux is not the easiest language to debug. Though I am looking forward to faux.NET and Faux on Rails. - Karim
MG Siegler
[POST] Twitter may have more serious issues than its downtime http://venturebeat.com/2008...
Thanks for quoting me in this piece. - Mike Doeff
you bet mike, i totally agreed with your assessment - MG Siegler
Just to build on that analogy, I've been thinking about which parties get involved when someone receives obscene phone calls. Should the phone company get involved or is their only responsibility providing the dial tone and tools such as caller id and *69? Most people have a pretty bad perception of phone companies so if Twitter is going to model themselves after that type of company then they're going to tarnish their "people friendly" image and be perceived more like a utility. - Mike Doeff
another good point Mike - i think twitter really needs to figure that out, did you see biz's comments on get satisfaction, sounds like it's still very much a work in progress (how they'll tackle these issues) - hope they get it right - MG Siegler
Yes, I did see the response from Biz. Hopefully they're reading all of this feedback and will come up with a policy that works. - Mike Doeff
If Twitter wants to be the phone company and not take responsibility for their user's conduct then they shouldn't have taken their TOS language from Flickr who uses that TOS routinely to actually enforce cases of harassment. I have no problem with Twitter being the phone company and making their site a free for all in terms of speech. But they shouldn't have the language that they do in their TOS and should have changed it a long time ago with she first started complaining about the harassment. - Thomas Hawk
exactly, another key point thomas. i should have gotten that across better in my post, i set it up, but didn't hit that one. twitter can do what it wants, but don't have a TOS saying you're not allowing something, then allow it. - MG Siegler
My big problem with this is Twitter's apparent inability to effectively address ANY problem they face. In a week where their uptime is as bad as it's ever been, this boils over, when Jack or any number of other Twitter employees could have dealt with it and forgotten about it months ago. Did they really need another headache? Twitter needs to step up and knock something, ANYTHING out of the park, if only for their own sanity. - Ryan MF
And as long as the VC infusion from Spark still seems to be in the "Almost definitely true but still technically a rumor" phase, I'll float this out: What'd be worse for Twitter? Losing investment as a result of their missteps, or being forced to jettison longstanding members of management as a result of the fourfold (or more?) increase in accountability that comes with a fourfold increase in investment? - Ryan MF
Allen Stern
ok twitter survey - how many of you have actually deleted a feed from your feed reader based on poor content or a blogger you lost trust in?
I have - several in fact - Steven Hodson
Continuously. More often for poor content than lack of trust. - Michael Hocter
It'sbeen a long time - DC Crowley from Alert Thingy
I'm having writer'sblock at the moment. - DC Crowley from Alert Thingy
I'm in the habit of deleting feeds that starts to feel like aggregators. I would rather see original content in my feed reader even if it's not all that inspired. - Daniel Norton
I deleted that Scoble guy. He is too noisy! - Robert Scoble
Gizmodo! - Bwana ☠
Not from a single post, it would have to be several. - Vince DeGeorge
seconding the gizmodo - rob from twhirl
I actually haven't done that yet. I'm rather lackadaisical in deleting feeds that I don't read much. - Morton Fox
I have, won't say who :P - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I actually did this today. If i do not like the sorts of stories they cover or how, I toss'em. - Geoff Schultz
Actually deleted many feeds because it was info overload. Paradoxically, now it is constant twitter - Crystal Clear from Alert Thingy
I have, but I'm more likely to delete them for redundant content than anything - Chuck Lawson
I have. Unfollowed a very popular blogger/tweeter because 99% of his posts were promotion for another of his endeavors. His right to post. my right not to listen. - Michael Pardee
I have deleted feeds when theres too much noise, like Digg, Reddit, Engadget, Gizmodo or when the blog has lost my interest. - Erik Weese
Many times! - Rudy Amid
Most of my deletions have been because of slowdowns/cessation of content. I'm already doing a lot of manual noise avoidance in my reader; I have a "wide net" philosophy when it comes to RSS, and never really feel compelled to get it to zero. It's just one more starting point for me. - Ryan MF from Alert Thingy
Occasionaly, though mainly when someone is either a) too self serving or b) signal to noise is to weak. - Greg from Alert Thingy
Occasionaly, though mainly when someone is either a) too self serving or b) signal to noise is to weak. - Greg from Alert Thingy
I had .some of them had cool posts at first and then after a while ....also there are a group of blogs repeating others especially non-English blogs and obviously I'd delet them as soon as I find the original source! - Shandiz
I really need to filter the amount of content I get on my feeds. So if the content is not amazing, I unfortunately have to unsubscribe. But also if there is just a ridiculous amount of content that is irrelevant to me, like 600+ posts a day, like Gawker, then I have to unsubscribe as well. - Alana Taylor
The best example of this for me would be when I deleted Scripting News. Too much Wining. If Dave has someting to say that is important, I know it will be picked up on by other blogs I read and I can read it then. - Jeff
Funnily enough, I also deleted Scripting News for the same reason. There's a lot of content out there, so I seek out the best. - David Sim
So we all deleted Scripting News, but how long ago? That was my first delete from my first feed reader. May have been 2003? - Cyndy
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