I'm confused about what the pie chart is supposed to show. Is that some kind of breakdown of the sum of all the average speeds? Japan is just under a quarter of all the average speeds? That doesn't seem to make any sense.
- Andy Bakun
I expected to see USA has the highest speeds at the lowest costs. But it seems its Japan .
- TrafficBug
It really shouldn't be a pie chart, there is no "total" for each slice to be a percentage of.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Isn't that the fact that Japan and Korea has one of the highest speed? That is the fact! :( US has those bureaucratic channels that companies have to go through(regulations) yikes!
- polou/indigo_bow
The problem has less to do with government regulation and more to do with old telecom monopolies.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Anyone who thinks Japan and Korea are unregulated markets has been sharing a crack pipe with the Free Market Fairy.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Actually Michael R, u know Japan's market is regulated too, on the mobile phone side, oh its very complex, I have relatives living there they can let me in more about it.
- polou/indigo_bow
"It seems that CBS now remains the only big network not to receive the J.J. Abrams magic touch. Today we’ve learned that a new spy project co-written by Abrams has found a home at NBC, after a prolonged bidding war between NBC, ABC, and CBS. The currently unnamed spy drama concerns a husband and wife spy team—and before you even think it, I figure the show will differ from Mr. and Mrs. Smith (a property which ironically had a lot of trouble coming back to television recently) in some big way. It’s not like Abrams to be lazy with his project concepts, so I’d be surprised if he ended up simply rehashing someone’s previously trodden material."
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
from Bookmarklet
MySpace wouldn't be the same without bad taste. And who would buy the box wine? :)
- Cristo
I don't care for the 3D titles, either - they're distracting to me. And Fringe is not better than The X-Files (well, maybe better than the last couple of seasons, but very little is better than X-Files at its best). But it's still good.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'm watching Fringe, and some of it is enjoyable, but it's a little too tongue in cheek for my taste. X Files was darker, more serious, and more believable, if you can believe that.
- Cristo
So excited, he did such a great job on Alias, I can't wait to see what is next.
- Davis Freeberg
Alias had me going to the very end... but it left me with a big fat "That's IT??" My fear is LOST doing the same thing as it's got me going. So very going.
- Adrian
Alias was fantastic for 18 months, but after the superbowl episode it was uneven; jj hasn't had much to do with lost in a while, and I expect an ending like Battlestar's
- RAPatton
from iPhone
Alias was uneven, but I liked the characters, chemistry and crazy plot swings to the end.
- Adrian
I liked Alias when it was a spy show. The Rambaldi stuff, I coulda done without.
- Andrew C
Aww, man. See, I liked the Rimbaldi stuff, but it went up in a poof of BS, which it always was, but I think for a while they were doing it right with the Rimbaldi steampunk mysticism.
- Adrian
For me, the first two seasons of Alias were KICKASS. S3 and 4 I enjoyed. And then S5 was just WTF? Basically about the time they became one of those shows that doesn't ever really kill people off, I was done. Because that really bugs me. If a show doesn't have the guts to kill off major characters once in a while, I lose some respect for it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Hey, who's trashin' the box wine up there! *shakes fist*
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I loved the Ribaldi plot line, but will agree that it ended in a fizzle. I'm not worried about Lost, last season proved that they plan on answering all the questions. I'm looking forward to the final season of that one too.
- Davis Freeberg
Technically -- and I know, they pronounced usually it "rim-" on the show -- it's "Rambaldi" with an 'a'...
- Andrew C
Still haven't forgiven him for turning Alias into crap.
- cecily
from iPhone
++Lindsay. I thought, That's not JJ Abrams! That's Chris Pirillo! "Course, maybe Chris Pirillo writes spy shows in his spare time?
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Benjamin: The juices in Belize are amazing. They make fresh juices at road stands, and fill used 1 liter Sprite/Coke bottles. Water is amazing. Sharks and rays swam through our legs. So used to tourists, you can touch them. Budget place for water stuff (as is the Red Sea - around Egypt & Sinai Peninsula). Egypt was 10 Euro for an 8-hr boat ride (including lunch & snorkel gear). Forget how much Belize was...
- Mitchell Tsai
I had such a GREAT time in Belize a few years back! What a great trip. Have a most excellent time Benjamin! Be sure to check out "Dready's" on Ambergris Caye and stay away from the kids who feed chickens to 25' crocs! :D
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Love the of the Blue hole, my home country Belize
- jamar78
Joel: What are your suggestions for Benjamin?
- Mitchell Tsai
We are only going to be there for 1 day (part of a cruise)
- Benjamin Golub
I would definitely visit Altun-Ha, a Mayan Ruin.
- jamar78
Joel: How does Altun-Ha compare to Caracol? I went to Caracol a few years ago. Met a guy from Houston who grew up there and never knew it was a Maya ruin until it appeared on the news ~5-8 yrs ago - "Hey, that's my hometown."
- Mitchell Tsai
I grew up in Belize City, I prefer Altun-ha
- jamar78
Thanks Joel! I'll check out Altun-ha next time I'm in Belize also. Have you visited Tikal or any of the Mayan sites in Guatemala? I was thinking about visiting Tikal last visit, but did the closer Caracol instead. When I visited Caracol, it had only been excavated for 2-3 years, so it was new..
- Mitchell Tsai
Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to do so. Have you ever been to the Belize Zoo?
- jamar78
"This could be very addictive: Google (Google) is teaming up with board game maker Hasbro to launch a Google Maps (Google Maps) version of Monopoly (Monopoly). Monopoly City Streets, which launches Wednesday, allows users to compete in a live, worldwide version of the popular game, creating the biggest Monopoly tournament ever played. It’s an ambitious venture that we’ll confess to being fairly excited about: players will literally be able to buy any street in the world, and compete with every other player on the “board”. You start with 3 million Monopoly dollars, and can build not only hotels and houses but also football stadiums, castles and skyscrapers, reports the UK’s Guardian. Downing Street in the UK will cost $231,000, while Pennsylvania Avenue will cost $2 million."
- Brad Williamson
from Bookmarklet
It sounds like online Sim City to me. Or one of the tycoon games (lemonade tycoon, coffee tycoon, railroad tycoon or something of that sort that lets you start your own business and grow it as a game, soon you will have ads for buy monopoly gold and virtual currency just as they have now for WOW gold.
- TrafficBug
I've been trying to play for 2 hours, I can get to the game screen and it sit goes down. :(
- Jimminy Fuller
Sad to say Google didn't anticipate the popularity of this. I just enveloped myself with apple news with hopes it would be up, but no luck.
- Mac64
how on earth do they rate penn. avenue in the millions yet the street in which the UK government resides is only $231,000? Bit of an insult really :P
- alphaxion
oh, for you sim city lovers, check out www.citiesxl.com :)
- alphaxion
Mac64: Just to clarify, this is in no way a Google fail. This is a Hasbro game that is built upon Google Maps. Google may have helped with a bit of the development, but are in no way liable for the FAIL that is the launch of this game. Blame Hasbro ;)
- Kyle Wegner
Lets see how long it takes before asian clickworkers overtake the Monopoly City Streets market.... ;)
- Birger Hartung
I cannot seem to get it too work. It still shows the centOS thing.
- Zachary TG
I was able to get in long enough to spend my 3M. It was painfully slow, but I was able to snag streets in my neighborhood that I wanted. We'll see if it gets fun as they increase capacity, but this is a crappy situation right now because the best streets will go to the overly patient.
- Jason Wehmhoener
You see the Terms? It says it will only be open until January 2010 :( Then what?
- Kamilah Gill
"...players will literally be able to buy any street in the world..." - literally?
- Stephan Planken
there's a street in Manchester priced at 570million..
- alphaxion
"The Social Networ Manager for Corporate Blogs will be accountable for designing the company blog strategy for SHC and working with individual businesses to develop content to execute upon the strategy. This includes representing the Sears or Kmart brand by sharing information about the organization, its products, brands and key benefits for customers in a consumer- and web-friendly manner. This Manager will also serve as a voice of SHC in the broader blogosphere and help to address concerns or comments posted to the company blog. The Social Networ Manager will work with business units to identify content strategies to meet their business objectives and work to train individuals from each unit as contributors. The Manager will be responsible for developing the master strategy, organizing a content calendar, identifying key stakeholders in the blogosphere and building relationships with them, editing content for the blog and managing dialog, comments and interaction on the SHC blog. Below is an overview of the specific responsibilities that will fall under their area of responsibility."
- Amani
from Bookmarklet
"Over 80% of engagement with online content doesn’t take place on the publisher’s site. It’s scattered around the social hubs, like Twitter, FriendFeed, and digg. Keeping up with these activities manually can be extremely time- and resource-intensive. But PostRank tracks that activity on the most popular social sites and brings it all together, enabling stakeholders to see the full story around their content."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Including replies? because I really can't stand full signatures on email replies. If there's a lot of back and forth, the signature just adds clutter and gets in the way of the content. I like it on the first email in the exchange and then a perhaps a shortened version thereafter.
- pea
Pea, I think that depends on the user's Outlook settings. It is optional.
- Louis Gray
But in terms of getting the message across that this company is connected, yes, this setup certainly makes that very clear.
- pea
Oh if only Gmail allowed some HTMLy signatures! :(
- Travis Koger
GMail receives the sig just fine. Tested there and .Mac and Outlook.
- Louis Gray
So in other words, they don't "get" e-mail? :)
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
If I saw an email signature like this, I'd click on all of the links just to see how active they are. Some people have all these accounts but aren't active, so what's the point? But of course this doesn't apply to you Louis. I'm just saying in general.
- Violet Mae Lim
Violet, these are active. I promise. :)
- Louis Gray
Robert, why show favoritism to Google? There's little actual social happening there so far.
- LogEx
But why make them click twice? That would just annoy me. EDIT: Also, I could maybe understand if the company didn't have its own site, but it does, why send them away from their own home on the web and give Google all that traffic?
- pea
Logical: I'm just having some fun with Louis. I personally hate tons of icons on things. So complicated. How do I pick? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
At some point, will you discuss the Paladin Advisor's Group more fully?
- DGentry
Robert has a free pass to tease or criticize anything I do. It's 100% fair game. I think Google Profiles aren't known well for folks to click through to yet. That said, Robert, bring it on. Here's the company's profile: http://www.google.com/profile...
- Louis Gray
And DGentry, yes, we can talk about Paladin soon. Promise.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I'm curious about the rationale for putting the Twitter link above the company website in the Google Profile?
- LogEx
LE: None. That's been fixed. :) Probably not thinking too much about it.
- Louis Gray
Logical: Twitter is the new website.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, e-mail is dead. It is also required in order to create an account on how many Web sites!?! I think I was required to link my OpenID account to an e-mail address. So much for Identitiy 2.0....
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Louis - I like the links on the home page, but EVERY employee gets that? I can tell you that lots of storage people are going to be scared by all of the "interwebs" stuff. I <3 the Emulex guys and know they're trying to update their image, but I'd think that most of them have bigger issues that learning to explain what FriendFeed and SlideShare are when people look at them funny.
- Stuart Miniman
Stu, I think I should use the word "optional". It's optional to everyone and every e-mail. And it's fine if some conservative industries aren't ready yet. It's time to shake it up.
- Louis Gray
Is it using Wisestamp? Very nice. FYI - Wisestamp is free, works w/ Gmail, Posterous, even the links.
- Liza
Is this seriously your sig for emails? Bit busy don't you think? Wouldn't a push to their website that has the actual list be a better use of that space? Also with email clients that don't do HTML its going to be lost.
- Santa CW™
The nice thing about Wisestamp is you can delete the icons in gmail, if it is going to someone who you think has no idea what Slideshare is. Otherwise, wd be a pain.
- Liza
In my training of employees on how to do a Email Signature, (where the corp hasn't stated a standard) is to plan for plain text clients. Have your information there. Do one font only and stick to that. Nothing fancy in the font either. Get the information there so that the recipients can contact you or get more information about you. Company Logo's are only if you really need them. Key thing is to provide a sort of Business Card (information how to get a hold of you) at the bottom of emails.
- Santa CW™
I tend to fall into the plain text camp. my signature is as follows: " -- 505.652.2878 http://sarahvela.net @orchid8 everywhere"
- Call me Bronco
All the hyperlinks scream I'm spam & it will likely be treated as such by many mail programs.
- Rick Frank
Rick, very good feedback. It will be considered.
- Louis Gray
Too much. Too busy. I'd get rid of the office line, the link to lousgray.com, and definitely the emulex logo. Anyway that's just my opinion :)
- Eric Florenzano
They get it better than I do. I have to admit, I do not recognize all of those icons as they do!
- Randy Rambo
Office and mobile phone? You need Google voice. I was able to get a cool number, (areacode) 4 Julio F
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Just a simple link to a homepage should be enough, small description about what you do, and phone numbers if you're into that kind of thing.
- Peter Stuifzand
Too many links in an email signature can cause the email to be flagged as spam. you need to test it out before using it. never can be 100% certain...
- Mike Nencetti
Are those custom icons, or something pulled from the web?
- Spencer
How does that degrade? Are there alt tags? Does the text/alternative or text/plain part properly remove the HTML and still preserve the pertinent information? Accessibility is just as if not more important than having something flashy IMHO. (Disclaimer: I use a text MUA and you'll get me to accept HTML mail sometime shortly after the sun suffers hydrogen exhaustion...)
- matthew john ernisse
yes but what's it mean? More is not bettter.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Personally, it seems way too cluttered to me. I would rather just have a link to a page on the company's website that lists all of their various connections. I'm almost as jaded to those icons as I am to banner ads. If I want to know about the company I will be looking at their website first, then their blog, then whatever other services interest me, but I'll always go to their website first. If that's not impressive then it doesn't really matter what they're doing in other spaces.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
they get it, but is it necessary? agree with others here that it's cluttered and sorta cliche already.
- Bill Kinney
Looks good to me. Simple. IMO, I would (1) bump name size +2 pts (2) maybe italicize title or choose different font, so it will jump out at you, but not as much as name (3) remove "www." from website. (4) I haven't seen this in real-life to look at overall point sizes. Often people's business cards need ALL pts sizes +2 to +4. As my 72-yr old Dad always reminds me, older people can't...
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- Mitchell Tsai
Simple and To The Point!!! The Purple " B" Logo...What Brand is That???
- @CtrlFollow
I had same question - never seen it!
- Susan Beebe
@louis - how'd you create a company google profile?
- andy brudtkuhl
Andy, A Google profile is just assigned to a GMail account. So if you create a centralized GMail account, you can make a company profile. This one, for example, is emulexinc@gmail.com. More on the strategy here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
I think if they are all business related and it is for marketing- why not. There is another app nomee.com that does a card also. It is flash based so won't work on the iphone
- Kathleen Cercone
"Microsoft and Yahoo's newly forged search deal is about breaking Google's dominance, which is pretty overwhelming in the U.S. by any measure: queries, clicks or ad revenue. But as hard as it will be to dislodge Google in the U.S., it will be even harder overseas. Google has a 60% share of search queries in the U.S., but that number is 67% worldwide, according to ComScore. In many top and growing internet countries, including Germany, Canada, Brazil, Turkey and Italy, Google has more than 80% of the search market. Conversely, Microsoft has made few inroads abroad, and has 3% or less share in the U.K., Germany and Korea. Yahoo has one pocket of overseas influence: Japan, where its search share is 43%, close to Google's. advertisingage-small.jpg Ad Age Digital DigitalNext MediaWorks Google's dominance in Europe will likely be a strong part of its case when Microsoft and Yahoo seek the blessing of competition officials in Brussels for the deal. How are the search wars playing out abroad?...
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- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
Pretty neat, wake up in morning and jump right into bath..
- David Gross
from email
Make it a spherical room and you could pretend you sleep inside Cerebro.
- Andrew C
What about that Bengal Tiger that eats underwater, from those photos floating around? That would be a very majestic thing to experience. Brief, but majestic.
- Adrian
Yeah Emma? think we should do this then? I'm game! ;-p <333
- Live4Emma (L4S)
When I was ~10 years old I became fixated with drawing layouts of my dream house, which included a bedroom that was strikingly similar to this...except that it had an entire wall of stereo equipment.
- Andrei M. Marinescu
i like the sharks and the underwater tiger idea, Adrian -- sort of Michael Phelps as Bond Villain? "How do you like my guest bedroom, Mr. Bond..."
- Karim
"Eating fish once a week was enough to increase combined, verbal and visuospatial intelligence scores by an average of six per cent, while eating fish more than once a week increased them by just under 11 per cent."
- Bill Romanos
from Bookmarklet
One of the best sights on the sports field
- Deepak Singh
Is the Haka a one-sided affair or is the other team allowed to respond?
- Adam Kazwell
@Adam - the other team can respond. There is a great vid around somewhere of Western Samoa responding. Also look for one where England (I think?) turned their back on the Haka.
- Nick Lothian
@Adam & Nick, Tonga often responds with their own war dance, the Sipi Tau. This is a video of the two dances being performed back and forth: http://tinyurl.com/k6rlj England did respond to the Haka by turning their backs as their fans sang Swing Low', but doing so is considered highly disrespectful. Usually the opposing team just stands in a line, occasionally looking quite alarmed.
- Soup
I am still not convinced: it is a step in the right direction (I also use Rooms and Lists) but I don't think of FF as a productivity tool yet). I will continue to investigate though.
- Arthur Alston
It can only be a productivity tool if it helps you produce something -- so if it is helping you produce ideas for your blog I guess it qualifies for you. For the rest of us not so much maybe?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, hahaha :-) I suppose it really depends on who you ask. I have had trouble spending more time here and NOT producing something. Been there, and had to learn just a smidgen of moderation.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I use FF for work and it's awesome! I save my research and current items in a room... great tool for me personally.. YES it has lots of features folks aren't even really using yet
- Susan Beebe
FF is one of those things people just want to rationalize as being needed, important, productive ... no problem I can quit any time. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
This post hit on an important piece of FF for me: I use it less for FriendFeed - and more to help organize other pieces of my network. I use it to bring in all my various pieces - Google Reader, Facebook, Twitter, etc. - and then help organize how I place content on those sites. So, while my conversations are rarely held here on FriendFeed, it helps me organize my conversations elsewhere. Does that make sense?
- Curt Mercadante
Curt, it most certainly does. You underscore an important piece of my core belief that FriendFeed can very much be what you want it to be to YOU... there is no crime in not participating in "social hour", and I applaud you for using the tool how it makes sense for you.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I also created a room for collecting, organizing and notating recipes! I have about 40 different web sources all dumping in that room and I can try them out, make notes and search....love it
- Susan Beebe
Timely article, I just set up a FriendFeed room for a small group (12 participants) to exchange (links, ideas) and communicate (replacing e-mail and especially IM) for a 5 month project. Two initial worries concern 1/how to directly contact someone (w/out email, chat); and 2/finding buried posts and comments. For the former, I'll try Twitter DM and for the later I'll definitely try to work out an efficient tagging system. Any thoughts, ideas?
- Brad Kligerman
I hadn't thought of using rooms this way. Thanks!
- Janet Fouts
Brad, you hit on one of my biggest concerns in FriendFeed. I need a messaging platform, but I would have to guess the FriendFeed dev team doesn't want to become the replacement for most people's use of e-mail and Twitter. I would have to point them to Facebook's use of this type of service, and it really keeps customers inside the ecosystem. As for finding buried posts and comments - a tagging schema (agreed upon by all) is supremely important. The new advanced searches can be very useful. However, ...
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
[cont'd] ... I have found that long term archival of the content is not the primary focus of FriendFeed. For instance, if there is a lot of activity in a given feed eventually this activity will push the content out of reach. This is a minor downside for me, but I have had occasional frustration with not being able to find something I posted a good while back before.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Ken - I placed the tagging conventions in the groups "Description" for everyone to see. I suggested using the prefix '#' in front of the tag so as to distinguish it from post or comment content -thus, the tag 'link' be '#link' in a search query. Is this a good idea or does anyone see pbs with this? Also, the first link entered leads to FriendFeed advanced search operators. It's imperative that participants master search.
- Brad Kligerman
Hutch - Thanks for pointing out socialDM. I think it is a solution that could work with some of my early adopter friends and probably most users of FriendFeed. But, the group I will be proposing the FF communications scenario to are 12 students : 3rd year architecture school, who, according to my recent experience, do not venture any further than Facebook in the social media space. A- that's one reason I'm imposing this; but...
- Brad Kligerman
Brad, I would think that is viable and closely matches the twitter hash-tag mechanics. Don't see any problems so long as the process is agreed upon and adhered to.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Hutch - but... I think if the DM adds more layers to the process, or entails anything more complex than 'writing the message and clicking send' it will be too cumbersome for people not engaged in the social media space as a part of their workflow.
- Brad Kligerman
Wow - the light pollution here makes for a stunning view of the city by the bay. The mountains and the clouds make the city appear isolated. Like being enclosed by the frequent fog probably feels up close. Wonderful composition.
- Matt Penning
In Flickr, more properties about photo link has a result : exposure 1 . I think that means 1 second shutter speed. There includes more detailed info about photo: ISO 1600, f:2.8, etc
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
For the past 6 months or so I've been publishing to FF each month as they are available the compete numbers comparing FF vs. Twitter. By and large both sites have been growing at a very fast rate. January was no exception. January was one of FF's fastest growing months yet with a 26.6% month over month growth rate. Not to be outdone, Twitter tweeted in even more at a 34.7% month over month growth rate. Congrats to both. My money's still on FF in the long run though.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I suspect a lot of the press around the Hudson river jet landing may also have helped boost Twitter last month. You are also though seeing more and more celebrities jumping on the Twitter bandwagon.
- Thomas Hawk
FB & Twitter & FF, the only other social site I'm on is Flickr and it's starting to concern me. I wish someone would stabilize Flickr - the deleting streams issue is a grave concern.
- Matt Penning
Thomas - you're right about the celebs on Twitter. Plus the Hudson River Flop. But it's taken a couple years for Twitter to get to this point. FriendFeed is still plenty early.
- Hutch Carpenter
well it is interesting to note that FF has more uniques than Twitter a year ago. Given that it is a far superior platform it will be interesting to see if they can be where Twitter is one year from now.
- Thomas Hawk
"I remember when I initially read these emails (the thread is from last year), my first though was, "I'm glad that I don't have to work with these people." Perhaps this is unfair since they are just venting (and not all of the emails were in this category, some were reasonable), but there's something about their attitude that is just very unappealing. I can't quite put my finger on it though... Something about working at big companies seems to turn many people into whiny children. I think it's because they aren't really responsible for anything. Unfortunately, Google's transition into "yet another big company" is inevitable at this point. If you take the same fundamental structure as every other big company, and hire the same people as the other big companies, then you shouldn't be surprised when you end up looking like every other big company."
- Paul Buchheit
Paul - What are you doing to keep Friendfeed different? How would you have them change course to avoid becoming yet another big company?
- Bill
I don't think so Chris -- I don't recognize any of the names at least. You can email me if think I'm forgetting someone. That said, there were a few people that I didn't enjoy working with at Google :). Bill, that's a good question, but the answer is not simple. There are a few examples of companies that have done something different in this area (such as W.L. Gore), but ultimately I expect that it will require some serious innovation. But first we have to get to the point where it's an issue :)
- Paul Buchheit
Also, Chris, I didn't mean to imply that all of the people on the thread were in the "I wouldn't want to work with them" category. Some of them had totally reasonable stories/explanations. Also, I now see that I do know one of the people quoted on TC (I had only skimmed a bit), but his email was in the reasonable category.
- Paul Buchheit
After reading some of the TC comments, I agree that most of those people who were venting just weren't the Googley type. That being said, as Paul already said, when you hire people from other big companies you end up turning into one yourself.
- Gavin
Personally, I've never quite understood what "Googley" means. It seems to be used as a generic stand-in for "whatever it is that I want you to do right now". I was probably never very Googley by what I imagine the common definition is these days -- I generally preferred to be difficult :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hmm. My management says I excel at being difficult. This means I should be much more successful.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Maybe I never really liked the public image of Google as being all "scooters and smiles", so when people complain that it's not actually all scooters and smiles, I see that as a good thing :)
- Paul Buchheit
who can fit in that pint sized pool anyways :o) pic 4
- sofarsoShawn
There are many legit reasons to leave Google, but all I saw in this thread was a bunch of winers.
- Dror Shimshowitz
@Dror please explicate on the the legit reasons
- sofarsoShawn
Lots of Xooglers in these parts, and I'm not one, so I shan't discuss in a public forum :-/
- Dror Shimshowitz
If people aren't happy, they should consider leaving. I don't see anything wrong with that, regardless of their reasons. Often, the "reasons" that people give are just rationalizations anyway, and they may not even know the true reason for their own unhappiness anyway.
- Paul Buchheit
I loved the last bit from "Scott" - "I watched newer employees join, talk utter rubbish, speak in nonsensical management talk, piss off agencies/clients (I know because they used to call me laughing) and get promoted (. . .) Before I left it just was a place full of quiet moans, talented people being undermined and a structure that created hostility and politics." This pretty much sums up my experience. There was good, of course, but the good was largely superficial.
- Jeanette Bosman
How is this any different from any other large corporation (tech or otherwise) out there. I work for a largely failing (and large) tech company and it fails due to reasons discussed here - useless incentives that give no incentive to work hard, politics, power hungry senior leadership, selfish management etc etc etc.
- EcoAussie
from twhirl
How is this any different from any other large corporation (tech or otherwise) out there. I work for a largely failing (and large) tech company and it fails due to reasons discussed here - useless incentives that give no incentive to work hard, politics, power hungry senior leadership, selfish management etc etc etc. I guess the point is - why should Google be any diferent just because...
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- EcoAussie
from twhirl
@Dror Shimshowitz: leave Dave out of this =)
- Jim Norris
I actually recognize names and know some of the principals involved. I don't think Google's particularly bad --- I know much smaller companies that were worse run.
- Piaw Na
As a longtime Googler, I won't comment on the reasons to leave. As Dror says, there are legit reasons and people in this TC article are generally whining. But I will say that the intellectual horsepower of folks I work with is still super high overall.
- Maneesh
I'd go postal working at big brother, who wouldn't quit that cult
- sofarsoShawn