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You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Forex Berza, Ahmet Alpat, ᏓᏰ #team Monique and 258 other people liked this
You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF!
- Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark: http://friendfeed.com/bret...
- Casey Muller
Lovely. Thanks guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful！
- K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro.
- Louis Gray
Cool!
- Josh Haley
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice addition!
- Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Franc, a rememberer
That's a cool feature
- Xitong Liu
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011.
- Gimminy
I still get them.
- AJ Batac
I get these every day.
- Me
i get it
- solncee
I still get it
- AJ Batac
*jealous* I no longer get anything but subscription emails.
- Bruce Lewis
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
superpultdu, Pinbaords, Марианна Коготь and 170 other people liked this
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :)
- joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea!
- Susan Beebe
Very cool =)
- FFing Enigma
Cool stuff.
- Mike Bracco
gr8
- حاج مهدی ©
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work.
- Fred Yankowski
more good stuff
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation
- directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader.
- Jesse Stay
great idea!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!!
- Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like.
- Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday.
- Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
better
- solncee
Friendfeed Is Going To Kill Google Reader, Not Twitter - http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
Jeroen De Miranda, hiroshimo, Dimitar Denev and 27 other people liked this
Interesting. Very interesting.
- Warner Crocker
Very True Loic you made it very clear how easy it is to follow the comments!!
- Paul
FF only works as a feed reader if you like "river of news". If you don't, then it isn't good enough.
- Ian Betteridge
from twhirl
I will not follow you on that one. A think both have very different missions. GReader really is a tools while FF is also a communication device
- Eric Sausse
from twhirl
it has already replaced it for, right now I'm going through some 4 days old posts in gReader, I tend to stop by there less and less
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
from twhirl
With out google reader or twitter, FF would not be what it is today. Remember it's a big circle jerk. I do not see FF killing google reader nor twitter any time soon.
- Mike Fruchter
when will we be able to like comments? :)
- Tim Hoeck
FF certainly doesn't have enough people talking about every single topic I subscribe to. I'm glad you guys aren't preachers at a church, the end of the world would have supposedly been last week.
- Shawn Farner
For me, Google Reader is an even more essential part than Twitter of my FriendFeed experience. So ... as said before... FriendFeed will _not_ kill Google Reader or Twitter, etc. What is happening, however, is that often, the items in Google Reader are arriving after I've already read them via FriendFeed.
- Louis Gray
These things always go on through June. Then we have the killing. Or something like that.
- Michael Markman
Eric Sausse, you have a good point, you cannot add just a feed in Friendfeed, they first need to be registered there and added their feed. But FF could add that very easily, adding feeds from people who are not in FF. Then it would put pressure on them to finally jump into the bandwagon
- Loic Le Meur
I agree with Louis & others - GR feeds FF for me.
- R. Ferguson
You can "just add" a feed in FF -- check out the imaginary friends feature
- Brian Sullivan
FF lets you publish your *filtered* google reader shared items, together with other stuff, to make an impression of you and your interests. That's how I see FF: almost a snapshot of a personality. For me GReader is a tool that you can use to filter items into your FF.
- IanBlackburnold
Brian Sullivan, thanks I was wondering the imaginary friend thing! now I know. Here we go, no need for Google Reader anymore...
- Loic Le Meur
yeah, I wont use FF for all of my feeds, I am subscribe to way too many and have already my routine with it. FF is more of a discovery + conversation experience for me
- Gilbert Corrales
from twhirl
Ian, right: I don't want people to form an impression of me based on my subscriptions to D:Listed, TMZ, The Superficial, and Perez Hilton, unless they are really really important, then I'll share the story. And now I've tipped my hand. But anyway: there's a community for feed discovery already: Tuluu. GReader + FF is about what's interesting from the feeds.
- Mark Trapp
I'm with the GReader feeding FF crowd on this one. I use GReader to get the news I want and FF to share it and create conversation. FF is a great discovery tool but I still read a ton of stuff in my feeds before it appears on FF. The UI is set up better for conversation rather than just information digesting IMO.
- Devlin Dunsmore
@devlin I agree... i'm finding it very hard to read pages and pages of link/comments on FF.
- Gaurav Sikka
I hope FriendFeed doesn't kill Google Reader. I find them both vital but I couldn't substitute one for the other.
- Kevin Fox
Again, this isn't going to happen. Services don't always have to exist just to kill other services. Especially ones that do different things
- MG Siegler
its funny season on t'internets
- Jamie
FriendFeed adds much value for me, but the only thing it's killing is time and maybe Scoble's marriage. I wish Loic would work on something more productive like getting Apple to make Seesmic videos work on the iPhone!:-)
- Robert Seidman
We like having a choice for everything we do, but on the other hand, we expect (and sometimes hope) one choice to kill another. No wonder the world can't live in peace all together ;)
- Turker Keskinpala
I never liked Google Reader's UI, but I feel right at home with FriendFeed.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
So true, but time flies too fast when im on friendfeed, i cant stop reading and sending messages! Great conversations though!
- Scott Purdie
going to have to disagree ... couldn't possibly get through all my feeds via FF - just too many for the FF interface
- timepilot
Google Reader is a feed reader, FriendFeed is a feed generator. Sorry, they serve completely different purposes (at least to me). No killing here.
- dgw
friendfeed doesn't allow me to categorize sources, nor can I tag or flag specific feed items in a way that makes it easy for me to refer back to later. for al the hype about friend feed being where the "conversation", it seems like a really poor utility for that. I see that on this blog post alone, the "conversation" is distributed across friendfeed through google shared reader posts, twitter references, disquss comments. The techcrunch "Twitter" post is even a better example. fractured conversation.
- bernie
agreed FF no replacement for reader
- ben rogers
from twhirl
When will folks realize FF is something NEW? IT isnt goign to kill much of the other stuff.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
would love keyboard shortcuts for FF too
- Loic Le Meur
FF is useful as a human filter on the old echo chamber of tech but could never replace a feed reader. gReader shared items into FF is part of the signal for me, but, not a replacement. Much like RSSMeme and it's FF filter. And then there's the twisty bit where I read FF via a feed readier in the first place ...
- Ashton
I'm still new to FF, but I like the search function that Google provides to even the oldest of the feeds. Not sure I would want the number of feeds I subscribe to coming through to FF. I like the combination of posts and conversation along with a few updates from other services like flickr or Digg. I think the 'conversation' would be seriously degraded with the addition of a number of RSS feeds. I would need to see how well FF handles growth before moving from Google Reader.
- Brenda Young
I think you were right. #humdaybumpday
- Ahmet Yükseltürk
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it.
- Mark Trapp
very nice. great work!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-)
- Jesse Stay
nice!
- Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats!
- Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Nice progress here with this release!
- Micah
I love it!
- friday night
Why is wget questionable?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
doublepluslike
- Vezquex
curl FTW.
- Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone
- abdellah
from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed!
- EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key.
- Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version?
- Jesper Lind
Google Docs’ “Upload Any File” Available Now - http://smarterware.org/4885...
Trinidad Figueroa, Matt G, Sam Harrelson and Adrian liked this
Baffled at how some things that were believed for the first few hundred years of Xnty are now considered heresy by so many.
Sam Harrelson liked this
Android Rising fast. Android #ebook sales for O'Reilly titles now nearly 1/4 size of iphone sales, http://radar.oreilly.com/2009...
AJ Kohn, Alex Gault, imabonehead and 9 other people liked this
How is there still no web interface to the market? Ridiculous!
- Larry Greenfield
What Larry said. I really enjoyed developing for iPhone this year, while the Android dev cycle was a bit frustrating for me and my clients. I'm still cheering Google on though! I expect the dev and pub experiences to improve, and I'm confident they'll do what needs doing. Remember, in the end, healthy competition is a good thing. (Accent on healthy.)
- Joe D'Andrea
Joe: I'm curious as to what aspects of Android development you found frustrating. Was it actual development or something in the deployment process? I'm no expert on Android but did find the Eclipse development process to be really easy, mostly just stumbling through the APIs using ctrl-space until I got something working.
- Joel Webber
from BuddyFeed
Joel: This go-round, it was the dev experience. Deployment was a cinch by comparison. Without airing API-bug/IDE-snag/Wrong-documentation nits (which I've raised with appropriate folks), and to put this in perspective, keep in mind I wrote "developing for iPhone _this_ year" vs. last year. Big difference! iPhone's not all wine and roses either, but this year there were some very pleasant dev strides vs. Android. I'm plenty happy when I read of Android success stories. It means there's hope for me yet! :)
- Joe D'Andrea
FriendFeed is a lot nicer now that the idiots have left. :-)
Sean Alexander, guruvan (Rob Nelson), Sean Kelly and 66 other people liked this
Scoble said it right :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Or maybe I finally got around to blocking all of them. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Note: I did not send this over to Twitter. It would encourage them.
- Robert Scoble
wrong. I'm still here!
- Jim #TeamMonique
:)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Why don't you invite some more over here Robert.
- Gimminy
Jimminy: nah. it's really nice here lately. Very quiet, can get a lot done.
- Robert Scoble
Snap Jim, I was gonna say that!
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Jim and Mellissa: you two aren't idiots. Proof? I haven't blocked you yet. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I must not be an idiot either. Perhaps there is hope for me yet.
- Brent - Yes I am
WWGD ?
- Desirade
... must ... resist... commenting.
- Louis Gray
Too bad for you scoble. I am still here ;)
- alfred westerveld
DO ANYBODY NO HOW TO TELL IF SCOBLE IS BLOCKING YOU?
- Gunnyman™
...tongue ... bleeding...
- Josh Haley
Ya what is he talking about, im still here too!
- sean percival
That does actually make up for the sense of benign neglect I seem to feel from the FF developers. Excellent observation, Robert.
- Mark Edwards
And the 2009 Gold Medal for Comment Baiting, Freestyle, goes to Robert Scoble from the American team. ;)
- John Craft
If we only could say this here.
- Slow
John: thank you, thank you very much! You crack me up.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here as well. Barely alive, but still here. (ok maybe a bit of an exaggeration)
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Home sweeeet home :)
- Johni Fisher
good to see
- Jerry Perez
It's good to know I'm not an idiot. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, so that was the master plan? 1. Declare friendfeed dead 2. Idiots leave. 3. Enjoy the good stuff without them around any more.
- April Russo
April, that's not a bad plan actually. Finally Robert's master plan is becoming clear ;)
- Glenn Slaven
April: bbbbwwwwaaaahhhhhhhaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaa. Said while rubbing hands together in evil fashion.
- Robert Scoble
Keith: I never left. I've been here almost every day since July. I have reduced the number of hours I spend here from about 10 to 10 minutes, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
a good ten minutes..............
- Alzheimer's Disease
I'm trying to work out if I should bite my tongue or just open mouth/insert foot...
- George Hall (Australia)
George: insert foot!
- Robert Scoble
George: wash it first!
- April Russo
I must say I'm very disappointed the entire world beat me to the "I'm still here" joke. <sigh>
- David Gaw
Wrong Robert! I'm still here! (but keeping tucked away in the background to fool you....)
- Technogran
Finally, Louis Gray GONE! :)
- sofarsoShawn
Yeah yeah, Shawn.
- Louis Gray
Louis is still here?
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Just JOkkkkkking, you know I <3 you LG =;o)
- sofarsoShawn
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111eleven
- Jim Norris
great to see you back here at friendfeed.. it's still rocking in it's own way.. welcome back and great new year
- Jaap Willem
I've found even if they're not idiots there are some times people that are just so negative or draining you have to block them, at least for a short period. I wish there was a way to do that which wasn't offensive.
- Jesse Stay
Hey Jessie - was hangin' with Damon today and your name came up. Damon ROCKS MY SOCKS.
- Mona Nomura
@jessethey should get indeed like a mute button for 30 days or something??
- Jaap Willem
from IM
Nice to see you still here, Robert. Hope the wife and kids are well.
- Martha
either that or they've blocked you - something you could have done to them... blocking is one of FF's superior features
- Chris Heath
That's great right !
- ★ Soner Gönül
Scoble isn't blocking me. Dave Winer is though. I'm honestly not sure how to feel about that. :)
- Otto
Is it a badge of honor to be blocked?
- DGentry
Mona, Damon rocks my socks as well - have you met Marina Martin yet? She's one of my favorite Seattle peeps.
- Jesse Stay
Jaap, a mute button would be nice, something less harsh sounding than "Block" - maybe a "you're grounded" button?
- Jesse Stay
thats right!
- Rafael
Jesse - I totally like the "you're grounded" button concept!
- Robyn Hawk
Interesting observation
- polou/indigo_bow
They are still around Dear
- lalitmawkin
Hey, I can’t subscribe to your RSS feed! - http://www.jangro.com/bloggin...
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You Would Have to Be Insane to Get a New iPhone Now - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
Susan Beebe, Mona Nomura, LANjackal and 17 other people liked this
I'm in the same boat. It will be interesting to see where we are six months from now.
- Derrick
im on a boat and...its going fast and...
- Alan (Giraffes)
So, given my wife's cell phone is AWOL, what should I do for at least the next 6 months? Tell her to go without?
- Louis Gray
Amen
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
Hold out for the Googlyphone. ETA is Jan/feb, no?
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
This is serious! I don't think you've ever used the word "pissing" in a post before.
- Jim #TeamMonique
I always buy my Smartphones at full price exactly for this reason, I don't like being locked to a duration term for technology that moves much faster than the term being offered for the subsidy.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Of course, my next post might be "two new iPhones! Yay!"
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
fyi slickdeals shows a cheap price if you go refurb on the 3gs
- Allen Stern
We live in interesting times. If you choose, I suspect you can pick up a refurbished or used iPhone for your wife to use for a while and delay the decision. As you note, WWDC will almost certainly usher in a new iPhone, and there are likely a crush of other interesting smartphones coming in 2010.
- DGentry
"Switching to Android would not magically port over the applications and iTunes I have purchased" So we're calling music purchased through the iTunes application "iTunes" now?
- Andy Bakun
Andy, nope. That's me writing fast and taking shortcuts. As for my wife's phone, it sounds like a first-gen iPhone will arrive here tomorrow from a friend, and I will just wait.
- Louis Gray
Oh, I know, just giving you a hard time. Although, I hope it doesn't catch on.
- Andy Bakun
Yes, just wait for the next six months. I have a 3G like you and it is jailbroken which helps. I am intrigued by the Android and the 4th Generation Iphone. I am going to wait patiently. It might turn out an Android and a iPod touch is in my future.
- Amani
Amani - I have an Android and a Touch. I quit carrying the Touch with me - it's a brick if there's no wifi which is most places I go.
- iTad
No Amani - it has wifi, but when I'm not in a wifi zone it's a brick.
- iTad
If portability of things like apps and data, from a closed platform like iPhone, are important, then staying with an iPhone, Apple, and AT&T for the next two years only makes that worse. I have not tested it, but it seems Android apps are tied to the google account, so a new phone also tied to the same account would continue to have access to the apps bought. And any sane person would,...
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- Andy Bakun
Side note: If the friend drops off the iPhone (first gen) tomorrow, that makes two iPhones and two iPod Touches I won't have paid for. Hmmm... #disclosethat
- Louis Gray
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- ★ Soner Gönül
bravo!
- Tony C (Unrated)
RT @dangillmor: Web developers relying on big company APIs need to read this http://www.totlol.com/t/story if true, very disturbing what it says ...
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yes, if true. Time for Google to answer the questions directly.
- Steve Gillmor
if true, that would be . . .evil
- Matt Terenzio
evil would be not answering the questions
- Steve Gillmor
You know, if you flip the Live Web around it becomes the Evil Web
- Matt Terenzio
Not answering the questions would also give us the answer to what Google means by 'open.'
- Cliff Gerrish
Textbook example of why open APIs do not equal open standards.
- Scott Mace
Live now: This Week (Year/Decade) In Tech 228 with Kevin Rose and Robert Scoble - our year and decade ender. http://live.twit.tv Dicusss here...
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Tease:
- Leo Laporte
@scobelizer the IRC is where it's at!
- Andrew Euell
EFnet ftw ;)
- Jay Neff
exploring the darkside of twitter on NPR http://www.npr.org/templat...
- Carl Golden
I've got to remember to use this service more often.
- Shane Tilton
from BuddyFeed
Blippy certainly is pushing the boundaries.
- Caleb Elston
I think he has something to, like you said Leo adding Netflix, Amazon, etc Affiliate links in for instant monetization
- Jay Neff
Can I get a scale that lies about my weight then twitters?
- Ghworg
It's all opt in, you decide what you want to share, it isn't as big of a deal as I first thought with concerns of privacy really
- Jay Neff
Really want a FitBit
- Caleb Elston
Wow. IRC is so crazy. I think the story of the decade is surely mobile and email. The iPhone's popularity is huge for this. Google too.
- Elliot Christenson
Hey Bill!
- Caleb Elston
Scoble are you going to talk about TSA restrictions on electronics on plane?
- Peter Trussell
Maybe
- Robert Scoble
Really excited by Square, could really shake up the payments space. PayPal for the real world.
- Caleb Elston
and PayPal sucks lol
- Jay Neff
here we go. iSlate lol
- Caleb Elston
boy if Apple doesn't deliver they are in trouble
- Kim Landwehr
Tablets haven't worked that well in the market, so it makes sense that they'd call it a slate instead of a tablet.
- Jeff Harbert
@Kim, yeah- I actually just sold the rest of my AAPL stock.
- Caleb Elston
All time high, taking profits. Will buy back in a month or so
- Caleb Elston
@Caleb, wish I had AAPL stock to buy and sale (:
- Kim Landwehr
@Kim not really much stock just about 25 shares
- Caleb Elston
The tea leaves for iSlate is the brand new iTunesLP creation tools. All HTML, CSS, Javascript
- Caleb Elston
So where do you guys discover the majority of your technews? (besides TWIT :)
- Caleb Elston
Caleb - Lifehacker, MakeUseOf, MaximumPC, Twitter.
- Jeff Harbert
@Caleb - Digg, The Register, Twitter...
- Andrew
@Jeff cool, so no aggregators really?
- Caleb Elston
@Andrew Do you do much filtering on Digg? Just the tech areas for instance?
- Caleb Elston
Yeah the Tech page is set as my starting point.
- Andrew
@Caleb, No, I don't like aggregators. Even for blogs, things like Google Reader and Bloglines annoy me.
- Jeff Harbert
@Caleb - One exception to that is Popurls. That one's handy.
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff Interesting. Is there something in particular about them you dislike?
- Caleb Elston
Yeah I barely look at Google Reader any more, it's just like a huge inbox you have to crawl through now.
- Andrew
@Caleb - Readers don't give me blog comments, for one. I also find that the look and feel of a website will help me remember where I first read something. Blog themes are also usually stripped out and made homogenous by readers. Don't care for that.
- Jeff Harbert
can someone post the links to the #twitdecade videos leo plays
- Andrew Euell
this guy is annoying
- Mark
news producer guy
- Mark
I've gotten nearly all my breaking news this year from Twitter.
- Jeff Harbert
I learned about Twitter on TWiT. TechTV and it's spawn are one important story of the decade.
- Jason R
Twitter definitely provides most of the news/links that I click on. I prefer the layout/design of Original Signal to Popurls, just a shame it seems to have been abandoned. Only annoyance is no way to turn off the popups when you hover on a link.
- Andrew
"we have some deep integrations coming with a bunch of different players and big announcements coming up" --Kevin Rose on TWiT
- Andrew Euell
anyone know if traffic on digg.com is still growing?
- Mark
I think the fire alarm is starting to beep more frequently...
- Andrew
Story of the decade is REALLY TWIT. I agree with Jason Robertshaw. I learned of Twitter on TWIT.
- Elliot Christenson
those glasses dont suit her
- Mark
I agree with her comment. (Now I just need a piece of inexpensive hardware to switch between USB webcams.)
- Jeff Harbert
I like my Zi8, but the EIS could be better.
- Jeff Harbert
haha! 640x480
- Andrew Euell
I had a cheap HP camera back in the day. Utter crap.
- Jeff Harbert
Heh, my mom had the Sony Mavica! :)
- Ken Wiesner
My last employer had a floppy-drive Mavica.
- Jeff Harbert
we had a mavica for a trip to vegas with the family. BACKUPS could be a story of the decade. Digital is now practical because of BACKUPS.
- Elliot Christenson
I know Carbonite is a sponsor but I gotta say their product for Mac really sucks. It doesn't backup video automatically! You have to manually select video files to backup. I switched to Backblaze. We should try to get them as a TWiT Sponsor!
- Ken Wiesner
Am I the only one that thinks location services like Foursquare are dumb?
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff hate to disagree, but I think location is actually a core element to be shared. Just like Photos, Video, Text...location is next.
- Caleb Elston
@Caleb - but it's so transitory. So I check in at a bar - I won't be there an hour later.
- Jeff Harbert
People recommend you for the "Crunk" badge. :)
- Ken Wiesner
@Jeff that's true, but tweets are similarly ephemeral, but we now have much better realtime alerting systems so you can actually know about that right away.
- Caleb Elston
@Caleb - And it also does me no good to know where anyone non-local to me is. Scoble is having dinner at the Ritz - I'm across the country, so what use is that to me?
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff, bingo - and if you're in a small town, who cares that you just popped down to the gas station in your pyjamas?
- Andrew
@Jeff that might be true for Robert, since you don't really know him, but if it were your son or brother it might be interesting, a conversation starter for the next time you speak.
- Caleb Elston
@Andrew - Exactly, which is why I think these services are dumb.
- Jeff Harbert
@Caleb - I'm actually acquainted with Robert. It still does me no good to know he's having dinner at the Ritz because he's nowhere near me.
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff Touche haha
- Caleb Elston
Love Amazon Prime.
- Jeff Harbert
I love how the book store guy is kicking everyone's ass in the cloud space. :)
- Ken Wiesner
Bezos is a force of nature in business.
- Jeff Harbert
NASA should limit its spending to human exploration related activities.
- Jeff Harbert
Leo is dropping comments about his wealth alot lately
- Mark
@Mark I think Leo is very pleased and confident about the success of TWiT.
- Jeff Harbert
best ad transition to date
- Andrew Euell
Pet peeve - that's navigation, not GPS.
- Jeff Harbert
Automatic parallel parking is a joke. If you can't drive, don't drive.
- Jeff Harbert
Fully automated cars would be cool though. Real life savers, since most people don't know how to drive safely.
- Jeff Harbert
Robert's is right Microsoft is just not cool anymore
- Kim Landwehr
I'd still like to have a full computer in my car.
- Jeff Harbert
Doesn't the decade begin in January 1st, 2011?
- Héctor
@Héctor - Leo mentioned that in yesterday's TWiG. He said he'd rather get a little email from correct listeners like you than wait a year and get 10x more from people who think it begins 1-1-10.
- Jeff Harbert
Correct. I remember arguing about it 10 years ago, but this time around I don't feel like nitpicking for that same exact reason. Sounds like a good plan.
- Héctor
I don't like the iPhone. I need a real keyboard.
- Jeff Harbert
Thinking of getting a Droid to replace my Blackberry in Sept when my current cell contract is up for renewal.
- Jeff Harbert
Yeah I'm going to drop my BlackBerry Storm - was such a disappointment.
- Andrew
Night all
- Caleb Elston
Electric vehicles will fit 95% of everyone's vehicle needs. Yes, you will need a second vehicle.
- Jeff Harbert
Later Caleb!
- Jeff Harbert
Please stop thinking that electric cars will 100% replace normal cars.
- Jeff Harbert
And btw, good old lead-acid batteries are just fine for electric cars. We don't need a battery breakthrough.
- Jeff Harbert
Thank goodness for holidays - this is the first time I've been able to watch TWiT live, as it's after midday Monday in NZ. Although luckily TWiG falls on Sunday here. :)
- Andrew
audible = DRM = FAIl
- Mark
hey you know how audible uses DRM, how does that work on a CD since a CD doesn't support digital copy protection does it?
- Mark
(you can burn audible to cd)
- Mark
If you think about it most people spend most of their time driving to and from work and around town, a perfect use for electric vehicles
- Kim Landwehr
"earthy crunchy" --Leo Laporte on Kevin Rose
- Andrew Euell
@Kim - Exactly. We don't need 350 mile range. 80 is more than enough for most people.
- Jeff Harbert
you DO WANT Rackspace as a sponsor, trust me
- Mark
(they are very generous)
- Mark
Esp when Rackspace goes down and takes half the internet with it. Three times now? Or is it only twice?
- Jeff Harbert
meh every host goes down
- Mark
99.99% uptime
- Mark
@Mark - kills the "cloud" argument though. How can a cloud go down?
- Jeff Harbert
well if someone unplugs the power for computers in the cloud i guess
- Mark
What kind of plasma?
- Jason R
If that's the case, Rackspace needs to restrict access to their power cords. ;)
- Jeff Harbert
gotta agree on the HD
- Kim Landwehr
there are a whole bunch of weather/technology metaphors yet to be exploited with this whole "cloud" thing
- Andrew Euell
HD really has made web video in particular much more enjoyable.
- Jeff Harbert
giant women have never been so attractive
- Andrew Euell
has a DVD screener leaked yet hehe
- Mark
Blogs aren't history, they've become enhancements & supplements to videos and tweets.
- Jeff Harbert
I like that comment by Leo - why pigeonhole it? It's all content.
- Jeff Harbert
"tough ass particle" --Leo Laporte on the Higgs Boson
- Andrew Euell
great - I could understand all of the previous video vignette's except the bio-tech one ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
....and an overpolluted planet with 15 billion people. Something to look forward to.
- Jeff Harbert
what about a cure for sleep, free of side effects of course
- Andrew Euell
@Andrew - or just make sleep more effective. I'd love to get by on 3-4 hours per night.
- Jeff Harbert
it's not Facebook per se, but rather the ability of any company to connect that many people on the internet: Orkut, Twitter, Google Groups, etc
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Fun show, guys.
- Jeff Harbert
Great show, long live TWiT!
- Andrew
digitel yamah keyboeerds and roland key boerds have realy advanced in sound and what u can do with them
- daveccorey
Why is the Tricaster such a POS???
- Ken Wiesner
I noticed on the TWiT youtube channel, Windows Weekly is watched 5-6 times more than the other shows
- Mark
Windows Weekly is 12500+ per show. TWiT the flagship is 2 or 3000
- Mark
The different shows all have different user/viewer profiles for live, re-run, download and now youtube. It's amazing to see the variances
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Whoever did the animated intro for the video, it looks amazing!
- Q-tip
Has Feedburner Dropped Friendfeed For Good? - http://www.damondnollan.com/2009...
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who cares the number was basically an artificial pumping.
- Allen Stern
It was, but that's the annoyance, Allen. I would prefer that if a change is made, it should be consistent. The graph, already suspect, now has an even bigger anomaly.
- Louis Gray
I of course prefer the higher number, but when it was first changed, that change was a surprise and annoying. For it to be reversed is, in theory, equally annoying.
- Louis Gray
The Feedburner number is back up
- Robert Sanchez Jr
yay robert - now louis will be happy it seems because the larger number is back
- Allen Stern
Hey now, Allen. See above. I prefer that if it is one way it should stay one way. And higher #'s are always better, if you can make reasons for them.
- Louis Gray
Sadness: Berkeley High School is considering eliminating science labs and the five science teachers who teach them because science labs were largely classes for white students. - http://origin.reddit.com/r...
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Sincular-Mertens, who has taught science at BHS for 24 years, said the possible cuts will impact her black students as well. She says there are twelve African-American males in her AP classes and that her four environmental science classes are 17.5 percent African American and 13.9 percent Latino.
- Bruce Lewis
Yuck. Yes, our education system is in trouble, and no doubt the East Bay's systems are very much in trouble, but it seems all too often, dollars are pointed away from the gifted and talented students, to aid the lower third.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I think you nailed the issue. This isn't so much about race, but about school priorities. They're measured on dropout percentages, etc., and not on each kid fulfilling his or her potential.
- Bruce Lewis
But even supposing you do make it a race thing, is it really helping a minority cause to have fewer minorities taking AP classes and science labs? We need more minorities at the top if there's going to be more equality. Helping the bottom third is also worthwhile, but accomplishes less.
- Bruce Lewis
More coverage : "The elimination of zero and seventh period labs under the recently formulated Berkeley High School Action Plan has drawn opposition from some members of the BHS community, prompting continued discussion and debate about the provision." -- Berkeley High Jacket http://www.bhsjacket.com/...
- Ken Sheppardson
The bitter fruit of Prop 13 anti tax fever Taxes do have a purpose and cutting taxes has real consequence
- WarLord
From the Jacket article above -- BHS Principal Jim Slemp, who put together the Action Plan with BHS lead teachers, agrees. “There are schools like Miramonte and Tamalpais, schools with great science programs that don’t have labs outside of regular class time,” Slemp said. “When you’re working towards equity it’s all about figuring out how to get that money to help kids who are...
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- Ken Sheppardson
Budget constraints should force us to be choosy about which countries we bomb, not which students we help.
- Bruce Lewis
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- Danielle Fong
The headline makes it seem like they're shutting down science labs. From the article it seems like they're eliminating before- and after-school lab periods, meaning that the labs will have to be done during the regular school day. That's better for the lower-achieving students because they're the ones who consistently miss the before- and after-school labs.
- Gabe
Gabe, I didn't see that in http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx... Are we reading the same article?
- Bruce Lewis
It's in the article from the Berkeley High paper I linked to, Bruce.
- Ken Sheppardson
yeesh, this seems to be the problem with trying to enforce "equality of outcome" instead of "equality of opportunity." Why penalize gifted students?
- Jeffrey Canton
Wow.
- Mona Nomura
I dunno, I did pretty good in HS, including AP physics courses - which, granted, was a long time ago - without any before or after-school extra studies. In fact, I think French AP was the only AP course my HS even offered that had mandatory after-school work. EDIT: OK, we had drop-in computer labs (this was in the days before mainstream internet, if that helps put things in context) that definitely helped me pass the Comp Sci AP test, but that was *completely* unstructured as far as I can recall.
- Andrew C (✓)
Update on CloudPipe work - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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CloudPipe is Dave Winer's approach to compete with PubSubHubbub, using Fat Pings. RSSCloud today does not offer this capability.
- Louis Gray
That's a great news. Soon, RSSCloud will be fully merged into PubSubHubbub and we'll forget about all this politics.
- Julien
It seems ironic that Dave is being bearhugged in reverse by PuSH. But it is definately progress toward comparing on merits rather than other personal criteria.
- Steve Gillmor
Thanks, Gary. Dave's article lists the #1 reason for CloudPipe's updates (especially "fat ping") as being competitive vs. PuSH, and aiding RSSCloud. Hence my comment.
- Louis Gray
Gary, maybe you should explain that to Dave.
- Ken Sheppardson
MG Siegler: have you heard that the iSlate or whatever it's called might be Steve Jobs' last big product at Apple?
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that's certainly a possibility given his age, health, and product cycles
- MG Siegler
Yeah, I heard that from someone who knows lots of execs at Apple. Also, that Steve has personally been involved in this project a long time. I hope he hits it out of the park again. Even if he doesn't I'm still buying one.
- Robert Scoble
that said, i bet apple has plenty of other big projects in the pipeline that are started but wont see the light of day until after he's no longer running the ship.
- MG Siegler
This person told me that Jobs was a lot closer to death than most reported, but is doing well now. I imagine having that kind of experience must change one.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, yeah. I wonder what they will do next year to make the Android chase again. It'll be interesting to see how Apple handles having to react to Google rather than forcing Google to react to it.
- Robert Scoble
It would be nice to have an iPhone with a much higher resolution screen and longer battery life.
- Robert Scoble
my guess: faster, faster, faster. and if they can improve battery life enough we may finally see limited background tasks
- MG Siegler
That would be cool. I'm liking my Droid better. Not because it's a great product (it's not, at least not when compared to iPhone) but because of Google Maps (far superior on Android when compared to iPHone) and Google Voice.
- Robert Scoble
yeah looks like some apps with goog voice are finally reappearing. bet we may see a google voice app soon. but still, google is pretty clearly committed to making its products run better on its own devices now, which is natural
- MG Siegler
Microsoft used to be crucified for those kind of moves...
- Cliff Gerrish
yeah the difference is google hasn't started making crap products...yet
- MG Siegler
but i have started giving them shit for that
- MG Siegler
Cliff: that's because Microsoft had (and still has) a near monopoly on desktop operating systems and used it to firm up that monopoly. Android doesn't have a monopoly (yet).
- Robert Scoble
Android won't have a monopoly, neither will anyone else. That's the last war. The question is whether Google will make products that only work with their own systems and still insist in calling them "open"
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: when Google says "open" it just means that the Google spider can get to them.
- Robert Scoble
Re: Update on CloudPipe work. (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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"Oh and by the way -- don't call my work "shit" here on my blog. If you have to use profanity -- do it in your space."
- Dave Winer
LANjackal to LANjackal's feed, All Things Google, TheNextWeb Forum, RWW: The Future of Tech, building43, Coming Up NOW
Google Tasks (gmail.com/tasks) does a really good job of showing how good the browser-based HTML* alternative to native app development for mobile platforms can be. I've been using it casually for my grocery shopping list for the past few weeks and have been very impressed
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... But it wasn't until yesterday that I realized that for all intents and purposes it was functioning exactly like a native app on my DROID, albeit rendered in Dolphin. I'd previously been skeptical of the HTML on a mobile browser hype, but I'm a believer now. At least as long as I have a 3G connection, but then again without that most apps are useless anyway
- LANjackal
I'm not saying platform-specific mobile app development is dead, but Tasks shows that simple apps are probably better coded up in HTML than for a particular mobile OS
- LANjackal
Web apps are good for a lot of things on mobile ... but sometimes I like the apps better. Just depends on the type.
- Kevin Mohr
oh awesome. I've been using Informant iphone app for todo + tasks: http://seeminglee.posterous.com/informa... - good to know there's a native app now :) #smlthankyou!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Gillmor Gang 12.22.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Steve Gillmor need to clean up is language ....
- Michael Holzinger
unlikely
- Steve Gillmor
Google's dominance draws interest of regulators (James Temple/San Francisco Chronicle) - http://www.techmeme.com/091224...
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wow RT @timoreilly Android Rising fast. #android #ebook sales for O'Reilly titles now nearly 1/4 size of iphone sales, http://radar.oreilly.com/2009...
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saw that... pretty crazy.
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
Yay, someone replied to me on FriendFeed! that never happens. #iamnoscoble
- Scott Jangro
from email
I keep this open in GMail just in case I miss something on Twitter. I still wish FF had taken off. The tools are so much better than that stupid twitter.
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
heh, me too. though I always forget that I can reply via IM like this. It is an amazing set of features.
- Scott Jangro
from IM
Space Shuttle Launch view from commercial flight! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Very Cool!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Even at that distance, you can get a sense of the speed. Cool.
- Derrick
Twitter items seem completely stopped now on FirendFeed. Bad or about to be good news?
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have they? are you sure?
- Zee.
You mean Tweets imported into FF are near completely stopped? I've noticed they're 30/hr to 1hr lethargic though at that speed re: Real Time, that is dead.
- sofarsoShawn
not sure of anything but that RSS is dead
- Steve Gillmor
OH hey, yeah you're right, no Twitter updates since yesterday.
- Scott Beale
lets not open that can of worms... :] About twitter, i see one 4 mins ago, but that's less than normal
- Zee.
not a can of worms, an important recognition of fact
- Steve Gillmor
it is important, re: especially my FF desktop notifier is severely behind on comments/likes to my tweets, so much so I had to turn it off, it was no longer relevant ~ FWD'ED to the Feedback room
- sofarsoShawn
Hey, you're right. No tweets since the Twitter outage last night. Bummer.
- Jolie O'Dell
I've been using Twitter intermittently while waiting for the resolution of this legal thing
- Steve Gillmor
cannot add twitter accounts, no tweets, no posting to twitter accounts.
- Patrick
Patrick: what do you mean can't add
- Steve Gillmor
Karoli: twitter announced opening firehose next quarter (spring) at LeWeb
- Steve Gillmor
Now you can read Wordpress and Tumblr content on your Twitter client. RSS really is dead. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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dislike: I hate this phrase in tech discussions; "blah is dead". It is almost never true; but seriously overused by every new generation.
- Don Strickland
Happy holidays from Picasa Web Albums and Eye-Fi - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
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when you buy 200 GB of Google paid storage for $50 you'll get a free 4GB SDHC Eye-Fi card (a $95 value)
I ordered this. Great deal. Is there a way to bulk upload my photos from Picasa to the Web Albums or do I have to sync one folder at a time??
- Todd
RSS for BitTorrent, and other developments - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Why are you so interested in helping improve bit torrent? I bet 95% of all bit torrent usage is copyright violation and the rest is "linux distros". hehe.
- Mark
We are working to bring FriendFeed back as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience.
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So, you are leaving Facebook and returning FriendFeed to it's former greatness?! ;)
- JA Castillo
Thanks Ben and pals! You guys rock!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Thanks for such a great service.
- Ashish
Thanks guys
- zeroinfluencer
Thanks!
- Ruchira S. Datta
What does this mean? Does it refer to the Twitter blockade?
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
Thanks guys. Thank you very much!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
steve friendfeed was not available this morning...the message refers to that. not seeing any appreciable break in the twitter blockade.
- Karoli
I actually got a complaint from someone who follows me on Twitter about link flooding coming from Friendfeed, so it's good the blockade is there, for now at least.
- Mr. Gunn
Ben, while you're at it, can you fix whatever broke Amazon wishlists? Thanks!
- Michael R. Bernstein
Plus the Desktop Notifier. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The blockade is in the other direction. If Twitter won't acknowlege it then Facebook is effectively killing the service.
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
Give full support and resources to Mr. Golub!! We all want a thing from that post, even without its context 8).
- Zu from AOD
What's up with FF links not showing up on Twitter? It's been that way for about a week. The FF link interface has always confused me. And now it doesn't work.
- A Mitchell
Seems to be working here but Twitter posta are delayed by 20 minutes to two hours due to legal issues
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
Thanks very much! It was back up as soon as I saw your tweet.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
thank you for all your work, :)
- chaz2b
I have had some problems with pages fully loading since it came back, Home feed and Best of Day in particular. Posts at the bottom of the page are cut off and like, comments, and expanding to read comments is impossible unless I open the individual posts in a new window. Very frustrating.
- April Russo
Links are still not coming through from FriendFeed to Twitter. I'm not making this up.
- A Mitchell
So I finally tried Wave... - http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2009...
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Integrating into Gmail -- never thought of that as a possibility before.
- Brian Sullivan
Think of it as "live email"
- Paul Buchheit
The only problem I see is that advertising may not be the best way to make money from it.
- Brian Sullivan
Hasan, I don't understand your question.
- Paul Buchheit
A wave-gmail integration sounds like quite the challenge. Perhaps the real-time text updates will happen and will be useful, but I can't see the conversation fragmentation of Wave being a good thing for Gmail.
- Mitch
While I admire the approach of releasing something that's pre-beta, it seems there is quite a risk that people will think, "oh, I tried Wave and didn't get it," and they will not come back to it for a long time.
- Laura Norvig
Laura - Google wants developers in there making cool stuff in the lead-up to the public release. If it were only developers trying out each others tools, things would be stagnant.
- Mitch
I live and work in Gwave - business partner could not access wave due to inferior connections in Manchester and working in docs again was such a backward step!
- Callie O Farrell
That's true, Mitchell, I forgot about all the gadgets people are developing. Also, Gina Trapani pointed out that the one interface that most of us see when we opt in to "try wave" is not the only interface available. I would love to see some samples of simpler/different interfaces.
- Laura Norvig
Hasan, no, it will augment email.
- Paul Buchheit
The fact that Google Wave was not part of Gmail's roadmap and in fact is positioned as "the future of e-mail" was a sign to me that Google is now large enough to suffer the kind of organizational dysfunction that has done in its predecessors. As you mentioned, e-mail will be with us for a long time. It would have been better to position it as "the future of collaboration" and indicate...
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- Dare Obasanjo
Speaking of gmail-wave integration: http://www.engadget.com/2009...
- Mitch
There was shortage of wave invites when it came out but now people are waiting to give wave invites. I didn't see any of my friends returning to wave after they used it once. I log into wave everyday just to see if there are any improvements.
- Ashish
Paul - Great insights! I too feel Wave is most suited as a team collaboration / productivity tool. The biggest hurdle is loss of context and convo structure. Once the wave team better organizes the UI, then it can go mainstream. Wave integration with gmail would be super cool and highly useful, plus it greatly would speed up user adoption.
- Susan Beebe
I just posted my comment above on your blog, facebook and here - LOL :)
- Susan Beebe
Mitch - cool share, thanks
- Susan Beebe
"The chronological flow of the conversation is lost." That's exactly the issue. Playback tries to address it but doesn't quite. I think there are other ways to do this, that will be tried both inside and outside Google. I'm thrilled that Google didn't force the Wave team to be part of Gmail from the start, because that would have added all kinds of unnecessary constraints. This way Wave can try lots of new stuff and Gmail can adopt what sticks.
- Daniel Dulitz
It's Sharepoint started from the web side instead of Office
- Nick Lothian
I had assumed that at some point Google would merge Wave and Gmail. It seems the natural progression. Also, I think the linearity problem will be addressed when they can figure a way to easily mark the new replies so that you can quickly see them - maybe in some from of selectable overlay or view of the wave
- Martha
Don't we think they should merge Gmail and Wave because we don't check our waves as often as our emails? What if we all had a cross-browser and mobile notification system for both Wave and email? Since I have installed the Chrome checker extensions for Wave and Gmail, the question of a merger doesn't make any sense. I can easily email and wave the same way I use Facebook, Friendfeed and...
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- Jérôme
PS: here's the Wave extension I use http://www.jeremyselier.com/entry...
- Jérôme
No, I think Google should merge Gmail and Wave because many times in the middle of an email conversation I wish I had wave functionality. Because the conversation has gotten hard to understand and I want to play it back. Because different subthreads have different people on them for no good reason. Because an idea has turned into a proposal and the words aren't quite right.
- Daniel Dulitz
Here's a specific type of merger I think could work. Wave "merges" with Gmail, GChat, and Docs, in that whenever you create an email/IM/doc you are creating a wave. Anyone can see that wave in its full realtime nonlinear glory from the product Wave. Any wave you have (whether started from Docs or email or...) can be seen in Wave. But Gmail, GChat, Docs, etc. provide only some functions...
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- Daniel Dulitz
@Daniel Dulitz sounds somewhat like how social networking aggregator such as friendfeed works. This way Google wave will aggregate all the activities of gmail,Gchat, docs and other "google activity" in one place.
- Ashish
I am not so sure about Gmail or Gchat and how you would integrate them-- as Wave seems to have similar and some cases superior functionality that supplants them but being able to collaborate on the production/editing of Google docs in real time perhaps using Google voice conferencing would be nearing a game changer.
- Brian Sullivan
That would be great, Daniel. But I think it would require *a lot* of work for some teams at Google and some good explanations to users. I'm sure we'll find specific usages for Wave. Personally, I would let the service grow by itself, without complicating other services. Imagine if I start a Wave and some of my friends participate in it through Docs, some other from Gmail: many troubles...
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- Jérôme
@Dare: I disagree that Wave is evidence of organizational dysfunction (not saying there *is* not such dysfunction, but Wave certainly doesn't prove it). Whether you love it or hate it, and whether or not you think it will be successful, I believe it's evidence of a company that wants to continue to take risks and innovate in the face of organizational momentum. Why wasn't Wave part of...
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- Joel Webber
It seems like the only big issue is the non-linearity of Wave. So, instead of merging other products to offer alternative (somehow), why not let the creator/owner of a Wave choose if blips should be linear?
- Jérôme
Well Paul, I also think Wave is very clever. Yet I see a few problems regarding the launch process: 1. They launched it exactly like Gmail, by reducing invitation supply & delaying invitation delivery. Yet, unlike an e-mail account and a web based e-mail client this is a collaborative tool that you can not use alone. That's the main reason most influencers and early adopters are...
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- Cem ARGUN
Regarding my proposed merger... I think part of the problem of Wave is that it has too much capability for many people, but real experts (may) like the full-on experience. So let's make everything a wave. Experts interact with those things in Wave or some other full-on experience. But people in the slow lane can interact with _the same wave_ using "views" they are more familiar with --...
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- Daniel Dulitz
Jérôme, in addition to "linearity" there is also the issue of edits versus replies. Also, what do you mean by allowing the creator to choose if blips should be linear? Transforms are sequential today; the whole question is how to extract "(conversational) linearity" from "mere sequence." Linearity is a UI issue. Why allow the creator to specify the reader's UI, instead of leaving it up...
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- Daniel Dulitz
My definition of linearity is rather basic, as is my English :) I meant "non-threaded" conversation, just like here. I think most of the confusion comes from realtime hierarchical conversations: we can't determine easily where the discussion is going at a given moment. As a doc, a Wave must support sub-threads, but as a conversation it may be helpful to oblige participants to respond to...
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- Jérôme
Keep in mind that's there's a difference between the Wave Protocol/Architecture, and the Wave client, just like there's a difference between SMTP/IMAP and Outlook (vs Gmail). If the UI is not streamlined for a particular use case, then perhaps other clients can be designed which leverage Wave infrastructure, but provide a more optimal experience for a given problem space.
- Ray Cromwell
Jérôme, in my view not even email obliges people to respond only to the most recent email in the thread. Maybe Wave should always show a compressed "timeline" view of every event. Perhaps a very zoomed-out icon of the whole wave in the upper-left corner of the wave, showing its blip structure, nesting, etc., with hotspots everywhere there's a change you haven't read yet. To the right of...
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- Daniel Dulitz
rssCloud Blog - Fake popularity stats for real-time feeds - http://blog.rsscloud.org/post...
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- Steve Gillmor
How Fox Newsy...
- Aron Michalski
hahaha!! :D
- Susan Beebe
:( What can I do to prove that our numbers are accurate?
- Julien
You don't need to do anything. The uptake of PSHB is obvious.
- Cliff Gerrish
And there's really nothing you could do that would satisfy Dave, Julien. Just keep doing what you've been doing.
- Ken Sheppardson
Julien, thanks for putting those numbers out there. Ignore the politics and keep feeding us stats.
- Matt M (inactive)
Thanks guys... you're right, I should move on.
- Julien
To be honest, I don't care a great deal about how anyone manages their feed updates, but I'm curious: just what the hell is Dave complaining about? Is he suggesting that Julien's numbers are just pulled out of his arse, and if so does he provide any justification for this assertion? It seems like a fairly significant accusation to be making without solid evidence.
- Joel Webber
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