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The Cross & the Prodigal: Luke 15 Through the Eyes of Middle Eastern Peasants - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Joe the Plumber is here, and he ain't happy | Confronting Hamas | Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/servlet...
Adrian, Samuel Bostock, Rob Haas and 4 other people liked this
"Samuel Wurzelbacher of Ohio, aka Joe the Plumber, arrived in Sderot at noon Sunday to show local and foreign reporters how to do it right. Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, aka... Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber, has arrived in Israel to cover the war in Gaza. Photo: AP "You should be ashamed of yourself," he told foreign reporters. "You should be patriotic, protect your family and children, not report like you have been doing for the past two weeks since this war has started," he said."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
*face palm*. We're sorry, world. Really, we are.
- Helen Sventitsky
Someone's taking his 15 minutes a bit too far.
- Bryce Roney
Someone REALLY needs attention doesn't he?
- Jesse Hattabaugh
and the US is pissed that we let Celine Dion loose on them ..
- Steven Hodson
S. J. Plumber didn't get the memo that the leap second on his 15th minute was *last* year...
- Jared Smith
So did anyone really read the article? Seems to me he's just like any Internet blogger, only difference is he didn't become well known because of what he wrote. I don't think he's all that bad. The only people who seem blind here are those not giving him a chance or prejudging him like I blieve you all are.
- Colide81 (James)
I read the article. Seems to be the perfect spokesman for the Palin crowd. Almost like a living caricature of the "average" ignorant uninterested American.
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, I'm part of the Palin crowd and I'm not any of those things. I guess I broke the mold darn it!
- Colide81 (James)
Why is this guy still talking? What 3 people are holding the rest of ushostage with this nutbaggery?
- Admiral Anika
Fools' names and fools' faces are always seen in public places.
- David Newman
Why is anyone actually reporting on this joker. I am really concerned there is another "Ugly American" loose in a foreign land and we will pay the consequences.
- Robert Miller
What a dirtbag.
- Will Higgins™
Can this guy just go back to being a nobody already?! It's embarrassing.
- Tsega Dinka
future running-mate for SarahP?
- Bill Seitz
This is amazing. Probably the reason why average Joes should stay out of the conflict. It's a very complex issue that cannot really be summarize by a plumber (or a developer).
- Jeremy Chone
Pharaoh's chariots found in Red Sea? - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news...
Mahesh CR, Christine Dattilo, Samuel Bostock and 4 other people liked this
"Wheel of fortune Is this a chariot wheel that chased Moses? "I am 99.9 percent sure I picked up a chariot wheel," Peter Elmer tells WorldNetDaily after two diving trips to the Gulf of Aqaba branch of the sea. "It was covered in coral." The 38-year-old forklift mechanic from Keynsham, England, traveled to the region with his brother, Mark, after being inspired by videos of explorers Ron Wyatt and Jonathan Gray, who have documented artifacts that in at least one case authorities have confirmed to be a chariot wheel dating to the time of the Exodus. "I believe I actually sat in an ancient chariot cab," Elmer said, referring to his time exploring a submerged item in what he describes as an underwater scrapyard. "Without question, it is most definitely the remains of the Egyptian army." But despite all of Elmer's excitement, others who have been to the same location are not so sure what is being viewed underwater are the remnants of the great chase and urge extreme caution regarding the unsubstantiated c"
- Internet Strategist
from Bookmarklet
Revealed: the environmental impact of Google searches - Times Online - http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
Steven Bryden, Samuel Bostock, ◄ani625Ξ and 2 other people liked this
"While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g." - what do people think, does 1 search generate enough heat in google data centers to boil 2 cups of water (assuming you are using methane to make the 7g of CO2, and the water is starting out at 25C, ~150kJ)
- bob
from Bookmarklet
"In terms of greenhouse gases, one Google search is equivalent to about 0.2 grams of CO2." http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
- Jim Norris
i thought it seemed rather high - so google's claim is an average of 1 kJ per query
- bob
The numbers in this article are pure conjecture. I could just as easily say that reading it has the same detriment to your brain as 23 micrograms of cocaine. It would be interesting to see him try and estimate the carbon footprint of other things like Yahoo searches or punch-the-monkey ads.
- Kevin Fox
It seems that there is a cognitive limit to the number of social relationships a person can maintain. Twitter created an interesting product in part by limiting updates to 140 chars. What if they also limited them to 140 friends? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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social MEDIA relationships have no limit :)
- Luigi Centenaro
Nice idea. Though when you hit the limit, you would end up having to chose who to kick from your list. Unless that kicking were automated. Which brings us back to the original problem that defining such relationships in the first place often adds more worry than an auto-triggered-by-your-everyday-actions kind of approach (which does have its own world of problems, admittedly...).
- Philipp Lenssen
Did they meet Scoble?
- Steve Rubel
Tag+Rate>set strike out limit/Filter/reduce/visible tags+but hopefully soon lists fold/collapse>file view../ Tag/Rinse repeat. This will come in handy also for Stephen Colbert when he joins his Thetruthiness room;-D, and I bet for you too Paul/FF Co, for the wood for the trees it may need a nice hot air balloon/or summat like a hand held mini helicopter which runs on its own propulsion! filter etc, Anyways a bit of Friendfood for the road, speaking of which its tummytime!:-P
- Jason
The number of relationships one can maintain is clearly limited but the number of information sources one can process is far greater. I suspect most of the Twitter/FF/other social media friends are much more like RSS feeds than relationships.
- timepilot
I seem to remember reading some research that theorised that the maximum size community/relationship we can maintain is limited at around 200 people. I'm trying to find where I read it now... *edit*: hah-nevermind, clicking on your link showed me exactly the research i was citing.
- David Adam
Social media apps need multiple friend "TYPES", i.e. family, real-life friends, colleagues, online friends / acquaintances, and business contacts. This way you could have multiple groups of friends. I can dream... oh, wait Facebook already has this - they have groups with permission controls - and yes I really use that set of features!! I love that!
- Susan Beebe
Dunbar's number is usually taken to be the maximal size of a cohesive group, not the maximal number of relationships one person can maintain. Some sources (including the Wikipedia article) confuse the two. It's an interesting question how the social sites would change with a friend limit. A room size limit on FriendFeed would also be an interesting experiment.
- Michael Nielsen
Limiting Twitter friend count to 140 would drive slackers to other micro-blogging platforms. ;-) No really, we have (an growing number of) tools to filter relevant content from much greater number of users.
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
Let us also not lose sight of the fact that, all other things being equal, the human organism is an engine of adaptation. I don't have a background in neurobiology or in developmental psychology, to say nothing of anthropology, but it's hardly dizzying leap to imagine that the emergence and subsequent evolution of the human mind was (and is) an exercise in testing and overreaching boundaries...[to be continued]
- Derrick Burns
[continued]...which is to say: humbug. The internet with its shiny social media toys is nothing more or less than a novel environment, with its attendant resource distributions, evolutionary pressures, and selection mechanisms. What I think we'll find is that those pressures and mechanisms will affect us not only intellectually, but, over time, physiologically as well. Have 140 friends, or 1400. Whether for the better there's no way to say, but we will adapt. It's what we're best at.
- Derrick Burns
150 relationships to maintain, sure: but isn't the old mantra of if you aren't building your network, you're doing it wrong also true? You may only really interact on a regular basis with 150 people, but if you only choose to subscribe to or friend 150 people, you'll never find out about new people or new ideas. Maybe subscriber 151 and higher are people trying out for slots 1 through 150: oh dear, did MySpace have it right with their top friends list?
- Mark Trapp
I wonder how much that limit may be changing, though. It seems like we interact with more and more people all the time.
- Christopher Granade
If you assume that the sole purpose of Twitter ought to be to the maintenance of social relationships then this might make sense. If on the other hand you look at Twitter as partially being about maintaining social relationships but also partially about getting fast breaking news early, meeting new friends, forming new social relationships, being informed about interesting subjects by fringe connections, broadcasting your own social media, etc. then the 140 limit becomes a significant barrier to use.
- Thomas Hawk
depends on the degree of reciprocity. I can be a follower to many (with the right tools), maintain a sense of their identities (sometimes aided by good UI), and have only rare interactions with them that, while ephemeral, can be rich, useful, and/or meaningful. I think the new forms of asymmetric friending/following and the tools for interfacing among these folks change the rules. What is a "social relationship" in 2008? What is the cognitive overhead to "maintain" it?
- tonx
LiveJournal did this for a while. People just got multiple journals and X-posted between them. An online friend isn't always the same thing as a real friend.
- Jonathan Tang
What is better needed is an actual way to filter the significance of a large pool of social relationships from strangers to closest friend. The answer here is relatively simple and straightforward. Allow users to use a 10 point rating system for every contact with 5 being a default. By incorporating this rating data into future systems of rank, relevancy and eventually search it would be more powerful than anything that exists in social media today.
- Thomas Hawk
There was an argument a while back that Free Twitter should be limited to say 150 followed, more should be paid for as that is increasingly the realm of pro-sumerdom. That would also allow us to discover the marginal value of online friendship.
- Broadstuff
I don't think we have much in common with the villages, tribes, and other organizations that Dunbar was studying. All of the groups he studied had a common interest in cohesion as a unit as a means for survival. I'm not convinced that many of us view our social network interactions as "necessary" (at least, I don't see it that way).
- Jason Wehmhoener
Dunbar's number is the reason I prefer to work for companies with fewer than 150 people.
- Ginger Makela Riker
If you can and want to keep up with 150 people then you will. Some of them will fade in and out of your social circle, effectively giving you many times that number if needed, but only around 150 at a time. (In your head that is.)
- xero
The Dunbar number was arrived at by studying primates picking fleas off each other, not tribal humans ;)
- Broadstuff
=Derrick, =timepilot. Also, note that even though we know about Dunbar's number, no one imposes an actual limit of 140 real-life friends.
- j1m
I'm not sure that the people I have on my FriendFeed are what I would term "friends" or even "associates." They are contacts whose opinions I value, but if I don't hear from them in a while, it's not like I go out of my way to get back in touch. Same with some twitter folks...??
- Justin Long
agree with susan beebe. need to be able to group and prioritize friends. tweetdeck is starting to get at this
- rob zand
The issue largely is that fringe contacts and even strangers produce valuable information even if infrequently. But by subscribing to large numbers in order to best get the chance of getting this information you also have to manage noise. Hide helps here. But fundamentally there are top contacts that are more important to you than strangers. By allowing users to rate these contacts as 10s and strangers as 1s you get the best of both under a new category of daily information based on personal relevancy.
- Thomas Hawk
As Seth Godin always says it's not how many but who that's important
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
We deliberately made the UI limiting within 30Boxes so that you would only try to keep up with 2-10 people (ostensibly those that matter most and impact your scheduling and decision making)...
- Narendra
Thomas, I agree with your thinking completely. But in theory I can stay under the Dunbar's number here on FriendFeed (I am currently, and I hope to keep it that way) and still get the best of all worlds and the most valuable info so long as a few of the people I am subscribing to uber aggregate like you and Scoble.
- Robert Seidman
Robert, even subscribing to the uber aggregaters though you miss a lot. Do a search for a term that you're interested in more broadly on FF and you'll find people you aren't subscribed to that are sharing interesting content that the uber aggregaters might miss. A system that allowed you to rate your higher priority contacts while still including the occasional quality content producer could produce the pinnacle of personal relevancy.
- Thomas Hawk
Why does everyone try to define social software by just "friends?" That really sucks. People online are NOT my "friends." They are people I want in my social network. I have more than 8,000 business cards. Are you going to tell me that I haven't met 8,000 people and that I don't need to find a way to keep 8,000 in my rolodex? I would NEVER use such a software. Facebook limits me to 5,000 which makes it far less useful for business purposes than if it didn't have those limits. That said, I'm sure...
- Robert Scoble
...that there is a market for such a limiting service. It might even be very popular. But then lots of stupid things are popular on the Internet.
- Robert Scoble
140 chars limit instead of duct tape on Scoble's mouth ;)
- A.T.
This assumes a lot. Like that Twitter can count.
- XDpaul
Paul this limit was invented by the famous 150 number in a time when society worked completly different. This is like saying "because a hundred years ago a person would read 10 books in their lifetime and could not grasp more, how about we limit it to the same number today?". People just need to learn what works for them, how _they_ are comfortable using these systems and then apply it.
- Nicole Simon
Thomas,Even at 140 people I had to utilize a lot of the hide always functionality to make things manageable, and that was with a lot of time to screw around with it. Using "search everyone" to follow topics of interests works very well for me as is, and they could retool the "Best Of" some to surface the best stuff across wider areas. There are perhaps a lot of ways to achieve being the pinnacle of personal relevancy but none of them are easy :-) Still, I'd love to see it achieved.
- Robert Seidman
Twitter's 140-character limit wasn't arbitrary, it worked well with SMS making it useful on the go. Is there some specific thing that having only 10 friends would help you with?
- ⓞnor
Here's the problem with "best of" today. Everyone's "best of" ought to be influenced by personal relationships. If my wife posts something with 3 comments and 3 likes this is more personally relevant to me than a thread about what music people are listening to with 30 comments and 30 likes. By weighting my higher value contacts you ensure that my wife's post is seen in my personal "best of" daily stream even if it pushes out the overall higher ranked thread on music.
- Thomas Hawk
perhaps a better system would be 10 friends and 100 people you know then unlimited follow relationships. You could even automate the promotion of people from follow to know. Then weight the best of pages with this info.
- John Cooper
from fftogo
Dunbar's 150 limit theory is a group theory, not and individual theory. A group is pretty united at that number, but if it passes the 150 limit "people start becoming strangers to each other". But an individual can handle way more interactions. I mean, it all depends on how you view "friendship". If you believe that intimacy is a must to consider people friends, than your # will be low.
- Jay Cruz
I think that would be an interesting experiment. And I'm sure it would have avoided some of the scale issues they hit.
- Dave Winer
Jason realized that his limit was 750 .. (but why email?)
- Vishwajith
aren't all relationships social?
- Jeremy Toeman
It is surprising that there's not more implementation of XFN across social web apps; as imperfect as it is, it certainly adds much-needed value to the "friend" paradigm.
- mabisa
Implementation of XFN or FOAF? "That's the wonderful thing about standards-- there's so many to choose from!" Of course, with so many services implementing APIs nowadays, it's not unreasonable that someone could use Google AppEngine or similar to create XFN from pre-existing services. Such tools may spur more services to start directly implementing XFN.
- Christopher Granade
that's a really cool idea...maybe I'll stop at 140 on identica and see what happens!
- Sarah Perez
If you want to pass from theory to practice, let me recommend you the book "Knowledge Management Strategies: A Handbook of Applied Technologies", which has a chapter called "Implementing Communities of Practice to Manage Knowledge and Drive Innovation"... I also have here a paper called "Distributed Consolidation: Identity, Reputation, and the Prospects for Online Social Interaction", written this year, but I didn't read it yet.
- Marcos Marado
Thomas, on filtering: why not be able to dynamically identify score by staring individual posts, like slashdot and plurk do - if I star a post, I give you a certain number of points; if I star a comment on a post, I give you a certain (but possibly lesser) number of points; and be able to give perhaps multiple stars to indicate significance; two kinds of negative stars: "don't show me this" or "block user" so the system can learn. Then people can aggregate points over time, too...
- Justin Long
I would like some kind of Top Friends or Best Friends layer in both FriendFeed and Twitter. It can be anon or fully socialized.
- Elliott Ng
I like the idea of limited friends. What if you start with a fixed number, lets say 25, and once certain criteria are fulfilled (activity, no. of posts, etc.) you are allowed more...
- Bastian
I've just finished reading Malcolm Gladwell's "The Tipping Point". Very interesting and inspiring.
- Niv
Common Grounds Online: Corey Widmer, Committing to Community: Church Hill in Richmond, VA - http://commongroundsonline.typ...
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"Perkins’ conviction was that the blighted inner city would be renewed most effectively not by churches lofting in money and mission trips from the suburbs, but by Christians relocating into urban communities to be good neighbors and share in the plight of the poor as their own. A group of us committed to pray and explore whether we might one day do this together. Six years later, we saw our dream materialize in a part of inner city Richmond, VA called Church Hill."
- Larry Huffman
from Bookmarklet
#331. Missionary family photos - Part 2 of 2 - http://stufffchristianslike.blogspot.com/2008...
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add posterous support please :)
Henry, Jay K, Refael Ackermann and 42 other people liked this
+1
- Quan Mengli
I want preposterous support!
- Andy Murdoch
I want posthumous support.
- Earle Martin
It would be really nice if posterous posts were imported with image thumbnails.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yes, please... add posterous support! We'd love to do anything it takes to help FriendFeed add Posterous as a supported feed. You name the API, we'll make it happen in 48 hours or less. -garry (cofounder, posterous)
- Garry Tan
++
- Bem
showin' support
- mark rampton
Yeah yeah that would be perfect, especially the image / thumbnail !
- Chris Darling
Yes - photo, video, .mp3 and also : )) .doc and .pdf support please for only Posterous : ))
- Erhan Erdogan
+1
- Mark Interrante
YES please do this
- Rahul Krishnakumar
do it
- Raphael, Raphael
Posterous is great. Please become an early adopter of what will change the world.
- Blaque Saber
Right on, Garry! I really enjoy using posterous for now. Keep up the great work. http://kenmat.posterous.com/
- Kenichi Matsumoto
+1
- Reder
I got a great responce to this post. Thanks :) Posterous rocks! http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Kenichi Matsumoto
+1
- Ross McKillop
Yes, I too would like to see posterous support on FriendFeed :)
- AlanLB
me tooo!
- browneyes
yay posterous!
- Stefan Winopal
Posterous is great, I add it as a blog but native support would be fantasticer
- Andy Roberts
Yup, I want :D
- Dave Pook
me wants http://andersabrahamsson.posterous.com (ITMT I have added it as Misc feed)
- Anders Abrahamsson
Yes, please.
- Zeph Green
+1 Posterous support, please
- Jon Price
I support this request
- Pierre-Philippe Martin
Posterous is awesome, please add support here :)
- Nick
++
- Chigie
Great - Yes, please do it!
- Sigalon
If twitter can be here, Posterous sure can.
- pankaj
methinks it would be really really nice :-)
- .mau.
+1
- Dieter Schwarz
I'd like to see Posterous added to the available services.
- Allison Kipta
Posterous should be added to Friendfeed - super easy to use. Native support would be perfect.
- dbush
+1 FriendFeed is my main social tool. I've subscribed to many Posterousb blogs, I need Posterous on FriendFeed!!!
- Eric Sausse
I want Posterous Support Please!
- Thomas Skavhellen
+1 yes please
- Christopher Black
Yes, add it please!
- Rubin Sfadj
Yeah, it would be so nice!
- Dino
Please add!
- Collin tAte
it would be great to have posterous added - especially with the multimedia aspect of most posterous entries!
- Amy Sample Ward
Pretty please! :)
- John Biesnecker
+1
- el_sime
thumbs up let's do this
- Ethan
+1 indeed!! Please
- Stephen
That would be AWESOME! Posterous + Friendfeed + Facebook all from my e-mail. PLEASE just do it.
- Jenna-Dee Detro
Ditto. Let's get posterous support.
- James
Please add posterous support :)
- Paul K
+1 - Let's go FF, get on board!
- Anthony Marco
+1 support would be great!
- Andrew Brennan
+1 :D
- Mathias Wiberg
Not yet done??? :)
- Myriam
support
- spharmonic
I second, third and fourth this - Posterous needs a proper feed!
- Dan Biddle
OHH yea, SwitchingGranny wants to see Posterous on FriendFeed
- Martha Garrett
+1
- Bob Stemen
Yes, please, posterous support would be nice.
- Hector Palacios
please add posterous support or provide the tools to blog on friendfeed :)
- karl dotter
YES
- Dan Haubert
I definitely need it - asap please :)
- Manuel
would you please!
- Yamil Gonzales
Any plans on adding Posterous?
- Majento
+++1
- Nazer
Please add posterous support to FriendFeed :)
- Michael Air
yes
- caponjanavar
+1 !
- Brett Kelly
+1!
- Emanuele
+1
- Adam Loghry
+1
- robert bale
+1 here too
- Matt Dell
+1! plz!
- Joselito Junior
Resurrection of a prehistoric FF post for a research. :) (Will be here: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
+1
- Matt Ruiz
+1 -- John Bigay
- John Bigay
Please add Posterous Support
- Philip May
++
- naraque
Yes please!
- Rebecca Jesson
I leave far more comments on Friendfeed than I ever do on blogs. Reason: it's centralized!
Kishore Balakrishnan, Bhavesh, Aviv and 74 other people liked this
I can't wait for Disqus to pull FriendFeed comments on a blog item back into the blog. Daniel Ha said they're working on it.
- Dewald Pretorius
Uppss : ) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Erhan Erdogan
Steve, you're right. After most people start using RSS the commenting features of the blogs are used less. Friendfeed centralizeses my friend's traffic and makes it easy to follow different posts and respond quick.
- Ansgar Wollnik
from twhirl
Hurray Steve Hurray! 522 comments u have now - Scoble has at least 2000 : ) Beat him in next two weeks ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
@Ansgar: True! Additionally it's just the kind of filter I needed. I don't have time to read thousands of blog posts in my RSS reader a day. Blog posts my friends commented on or liked are likely to be sufficient.
- Benedikt Koehler
I also feel the need to make a more well thought out and complete thought when commenting on blog posts, but maybe that's just because of the size of the text box in twhirl...
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
I would have to agree about having your comments be more well thought out on the blog. It just seems easier and more fun to comment on FriendFeed.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
your feedreader and webbrowser is centralized as well - but it is a faster process here, like a feedreader with built in commenting and easy access due to similar css for every 'entry'
- Nicole Simon
"webbrowser centralized" what? sorry, Nicole, but that doesn't make sense
- Marcel Weiß
Commenting on blogs is easy. Commenting in FriendFeed is VERY VERY easy. That's the difference.
- Ontario Emperor
@possible248 , Steve -- as a blog post is more of a thoughtful, time-consuming effort than an FF post, I tend to respond in kind when I comment on a blog. One tends to want to comment in proportion to the thoughtfulness behind the post. Hmm I said the same thing twice. So frikkin thoughtful I am.
- Marko Bon
Reason 2 - we can read and LIKE / COMMENT on your comments... meta, meta FTW!
- Susan Beebe
The only thing I find approaching the ease of commenting on a thread in friendfeed is leaving a comment on a disqus-enabled blog. That definitely makes me think!
- Phil G
Phil: Right on!!
- Susan Beebe
Since FF comes to me via Twhirl, it's more of a conversation environment...everything wrapped up in a single window. I hit blogs for deeper content. That said, I will comment a blog link in FF instead of the blog if that's where the conversation is at....if a comment is made and no one reads it...was it made?
- Marc Vermut
from twhirl
actually, with gReader (I think they haven't released the Firefox 3 version), you can leave comments from your Google Reader directly on Disqus, which is pretty cool.
- xavier vespa
and it's ajaxy easy
- anna sauce
I've pretty much quit commenting on blogs. It seems quaint. FF is where the conversation is now.
- Chrimmus Tad
sure! ...but ff is decentralized centralized - or was it centralized decentralized? ;)
- Dieter Schwarz
So true.
- Russellreno
Same here...without a doubt.
- Chris Rossini
Also no log-ins, typekey, or the hell of Captcha verifications! Makes commenting what it should be - fast and easy.
- Steve Isaacs
I've often thought that I'd rather leave a comment on a page that has the most comments, rather than the first page I find via Google. For example, I really liked the play "Top Girls," and I wanted to add to the conversation surrounding that play. A google-search will not point me to that place. My big-idea (that day ;) was "a search engine that points you toward the place where the most conversation is happening." Could something like this be developed, or does it exist already?
- Marko Bon
I hate being censored on someone's blog. in friendfeed if someone edits me out... chances are the conversation thread won't make sense. I wish I could substitute friendfeed for the comments on my blog... I know it is possible... but I haven't gotten it working yet
- Noah David Simon
User posts to room should also be included in their "me" feed and moved up when comments are added.
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Isn't that what happens by default?
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian: I don't think so. Room posts are kept in the room. Doug means that things you post to a room should also be included on friendfeed.com/yourusername so people can see what you're posting in rooms without visiting them all.
- Voyagerfan5761
@Brian, exactly what @Voyagerfan said. For example, I had to scroll in this room to know that you had commented on it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have known about any activity in this thread.
- Doug Brooks
I understand -it does appear in the standard feed by default - that is what I was thinking I guess. They do seem to appear in the Me comments section though -- that is what I am posting from
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian, ahh, they do show in me comments. I'd still like posts that I started to show in the main "me" feed like other material that originates with me.
- Doug Brooks
how about "best of" for "everyone" tab? id like to read not-in-my-network posts ranked for noise (via likes,dates,comments,etc)
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Oven-baked risotto recipe - BBC Good Food - http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes...
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Social Aggregation or Agitation?::3 Reasons FriendFeed Is Great -- and 3 Ways It Scares Me - http://www.pbs.org/mediash...
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I think it's the mother of all social sites. And it has the potential to be the next Google.
- Steve Rubel
Someone said FF is the new digital crack, and I find myself feeling that addiction. I do get a sense of what people are up to and a side of who they are. This is only a portion of my life, and yet I'm giving up more of that to this addiction. I'm getting out this morning and riding my bike, and sod FF for awhile.
- Henry Burger
I think it might have the potential to overtake at least one aspect of googl which is the faceless side. FF is personalized and interactive. They have ways to go befe has tho.
- Michael VanDervort
from twhirl
it has a lot of potential but it also has a lot of potential to create a lot of spammable content - see http://padajo.wordpress.com/2008...
- Paul Johnston
from twhirl
That is an excellent article that nicely sums up what friendfeed is. Interesting that sites like this are getting profiled on a pbs property.
- Rob Diana
USA National Gas Temperature Map - http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gast...
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That's nuts. Simply nuts. Look at the distribution!
- Bwana ☠
@Bwana - Are you suggesting that the pricing is determined by something other that just supply and demand? 'Cause that would be crazy. ;-)
- Keith Pelczarski
@Keith: It seems almost entirely dependent on tax rates. Compare to the National Gas Tax map (scroll to bottom): http://www.api.org/policy...
- Michelle Lee
Michelle - So what's up with Montana? High gas tax and low gas prices? Everywhere else it's almost matches
- Bwana ☠
Perfect execution for presenting this data. I wasn't expecting to see individual prices.
- Chris Ridenour
I'm glad I live in Texas, but how did Wyoming get so lucky?
- Bryan Clark
well good thing for me Miss & LA gas prices are on the low end. Sad thing is if you look at a map of carbon emissions per capita, the southern & midwestern metro areas seem to have the highest CO2/capita which correlates to where the gas price averages are the lowest. http://snurl.com/2bhvv [blog_wired_com]
- Cornelius Toole
@Michelle: nice
- j1m
@Michelle Lee Tax rates and mandates such as additives that cause shortages as refineries switch in and out of producing mandated variations for different political regions.
- RAPatton
If it's primarily taxes that drive price differences, then McCain & Hilary are right on the “tax holiday” issue and Obama is wrong in saying that dropping the tax would make almost no difference in prices.
- Amit Patel
I'm not sure this map design is a good example of what Edward Tufte would call "least effective difference"
- Jason Wehmhoener
Apple takes delivery of 188 mysterious ocean containers - http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008...
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"Searching records for shipments to Apple (AAPL), employees at the Scottsdale, Ariz., company reported on Friday that they’ve spotted a “major spike” since mid March in ocean containers marked by Apple with a mysterious new label: “electric computers”"
- Louis Gray
maybe the folks waiting in line at the apple store are on to something - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
- Doug Brooks
Maybe it's a lot of black shirts for Steve Jobs.
- Mike Reynolds
I guess anything can be considered knowledge-inducing these days...Thanks for the link, Louis.
- Ryne Nelson
Oh they are on something all right Doug, drugs.
- Geoff Schultz
Rumor mills are getting craftier and craftier. What next? "FedEx noted a 0.7% spike in gas usage in June, thus indicating a major shipment to Apple Stores nationwide."
- Mark Trapp
Re the folks in line at Apple knowing something: Apparently not enough, because if the report is accurate there will be about 7 million iPhones in the channel. There's no need to wait in line unless you want it two hours before everyone else.
- Kevin Fox
@Kevin - now what kind of a dimwit would wait in line for a phone? ;-)
- Keith Pelczarski
Twice? Whacha doin' this weekend? I hear Woz will be there!
- Kevin Fox
these containers are filled with DVI to VGA adapters.
- peter
the Apple rumour bandwagon is getting insane!
- Jamie
Those contain Jobs' ego...apparently manufactured in China. More on the way...
- Kamath (नमः)
from twhirl
@peterch gawd, you rude to AAPL fanboys LOL
- A.T.
You know, if Twitter replaced their "Something is wrong..." graphic with a page full of AdSense banners, they'd be gazillionaires!
Rob Williams, JP Moore, Mitchell Tsai and 64 other people liked this
I know i would never click a banner. Now if they redirected all that traffic :-)
- Mike Fruchter
Good idea!!!!!!!!
- Joe Dawson
I doubt Twitter would welcome ads for Jaiku and Pownce on their 'we're not working right now' page... :-)
- Kevin Fox
Title: Twitter's Secret Monetization Plan
- Eric Florenzano
maybe a 302 temp redirect to friendfeed, people need to communicate what do u know
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
from twhirl
Now if someone hacked the Something is Wrong page to redirect to FF, that would be something
- Kevin Bondelli
That page should just re-direct users to FriendFeed automatically....save me a click!
- Susan Beebe
"Looking for Something is Technically Wrong? Try www.xyzzy.com" "Something is Technically Wrong - now 50% off!!! (click here)" "Something is Technically Wrong - Now with FREE SHIPPING" "Discount on Something is Technically Wrong, no prescription required" "Widest Selection on Something is Technically Wrong" "Something is Technically Wrong - Safe, Proven, Guaranteed Quality" "50+ Flavors of Something is Technically Wrong to choose from - Factory Direct"
- Karim
some kind of homeostatic equilibrium. if they're down, they make gazillions and buy new servers. then they're up and continue to grow until the new downtime...
- Benedikt Koehler
Here is my Twitter 404 page http://tinyurl.com/4b63s4
- Kevin Bondelli
LOL Kevin, that is *genius.*
- Karim
Kevin that is to funny!
- Mike Fruchter
Kevin's page FTW.
- Dana Franks
from twhirl
I am waiting for a phone call from Twitter trying to hire me to do their 404s from now on. I think I'll be waiting for a while.
- Kevin Bondelli
And just like that a new business model was born
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Kevin As long as you're not waiting for a *tweet* with a job offer...
- Benedikt Koehler
@benedikt Touche. Maybe I should start a "Potential Twitter Employees" FF room.
- Kevin Bondelli
Now why didn't I think of that?
- Shawn Kirsch
Kevin, I like that idea. I'm sure that room would be bustling in a week or two.
- Ryne Nelson
Ryne, maybe we could use this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Benedikt Koehler
lol. Good one.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I desperately need keyboard navigation for FF
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Is there a way to search for public rooms? For instance, I was curious to see if someone had created a room to talk about social dancing / Lindy Hop / etc.
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Lol, I was just about to ask that same question although without the dance references.
- Slappy Line
Same question... but less on the Lindy Hop stuff... 8-)
- Charlie Nichols Browning
Definitely an important feature request
- Brandon Titus
Ah, I was just wondering the same thing. Would definitely be useful if we could search out already-created rooms.
- Lisa, sfo
I have seen this a few times so think this must be the most requested must have!
- Joe Dawson
trying a new friendfeed experiment - going to subscribe to everyone subscribed to me, and anyone "recommended" to me (until I get tired of clicking "subscribe" that is)
Samuel Bostock, Morton Fox, Thomas Hawk and 2 other people liked this
okay, up to 200 subscriptions, that's enough. for the curious, i went to the recommended tab, then always picked the person using the highest quantity of services in friendfeed. so the big question is "strangerfeed" more or less interesting than friendfeed?
- Jeremy Toeman
Good question. But, now I'll know if you unfriend me that I am boring. Must....Be....Exciting....{best kirk voice}
- Robert Peterson
@robert - damn tootin'. :) actually, i'm more concerned about 'noisy/distracting' than 'boring'...
- Jeremy Toeman
I'm subscribing to every friend of a friend. 252 so far aand still increasing. I'll stop at 500, I think.
- Marcus
Jeremy how many events an hour are you getting with 200 people?
- Zoe
from Alert Thingy
@zoe - dont know yet, will report in a day-ish.
- Jeremy Toeman
tried that last week. signal to noise was too hard to manage.
- Michael Gartenberg
i still think it's quality not quantity... at least for me...
- Michael Gartenberg
Welcome from the "strangerfeed"...well I'm strange anyway..
- Pete Gilbert
The nice thing about FF is that is lets you friend someone, but filter out a stream of theirs which is particularly noisy. So, for example, you can filter out a person's Twitters (if they post every five minutes) while keeping in their other content.
- Ian Betteridge
Birth cry of a supernova - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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Thats awesome
- Todd Cochrane
from twhirl
Woah. That is quite possibly one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.
- Zach Flauaus
And I heard the report on NPR driving home from work, too.
- Alexander Falk
Last Words heard on planet orbiting that star: "Those rumors that our Large Hadron Collider could destroy the Universe are totally baseless. All we do energize the superconducting coil like this... inject a stream of particles like this... and simply push this button."
- Karim
McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Designing for the Social Web: The Usage Lifecycle - Bokardo - http://bokardo.com/archive...
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cool:D
- Shandiz
Add one more phase at end (right) - evangelist: recruits friends to join too! =)
- Susan Beebe
FriendFeedLinks: A Memetracker For FriendFeed - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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And now also available via twitter , simply follow @friendfeedlinks
- Stijn Wijndaele
This is pretty cool, but I'd like to see the ability to factor in Likes to the equation
- Mark Krynsky
+1 Like for Mark's comment about incorporating 'Likes'.
- Hutch Carpenter
Lots of great feedback about Digsby: http://www.tweetscan.com/index... I will try it out now.
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I've been using it for a couple weeks it's AWESOME! - via FriendFeedMachine
- Leigh Jamgochian
Yup. Great IM client for Windows shocker!
- Chris Nixon
Digsby is a great tool. It just needs to incorporate friendfeed.
- Baard @ Pixum
They just today started a poll asking what networks they should add next. Last.fm is leading the pack and FriendFeed needs many more votes. Go to http://digsbies.org/site... and vote, if you care to.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from Alert Thingy
Digsby with ff would be great!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Lifestreaming 101 - Don’t Cross the Streams - http://internetducttape.com/2008...
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This was a good read! I'm still thinking about it.
- Corvida
Glad you guys liked it.
- engtech
I just hope enough people read it. I killed a few of my friendfeed streams for the exact reasons you cited - why duplicate. My dilemma is now centered around Twitter. I use one of those services to tweet my blog posts, but I also have my blog posts show up as a stream. Duplicate? Yes. But I have some friendfeed friends who aren't on twitter. What to do.
- Ross McKillop
I discovered i was duplicating so I corrected that.
- Russellreno
Comes back to why we need one social community!
- Phil Ashman
Excellent point. I will be cleaning mine up momentarily.
- Rob Diana
I now feel foolish that I commented on this post on the actual website. How stupid of me to not use FriendFeed instead... ...via AlertThingy
- elroy
It happens a lot here, some people shares everything in several services and all of them show up in their streams in FF. I understand why people promote their blog posts in Twitter, but sharing the same thing in StumbleUpon, gReader, delicious, etc?
- Alejandro
I've been thinking about a "managed lifestream" app. Like FF except instead of all things going public, they go into a queue where you approve which go into the stream. Defeats the purpose of lifestreaming for most people obviously, but seems like there's room for a middle-ground between blogging and lifestreaming
- Jeremy Raines
@Alejandro and Jason - I add blogs that link to me to del.icio.us to track coverage, and on rare occasions, I'll add my own posts to del.icio.us, as so far, that's the only way I can find out "who" bookmarked it. I can't search del.icio.us to find out, so it does look odd. Also, sharing via Google Reader does a few things: Adding to the link blog, and contributing to RSSMeme, ReadBurner, etc.
- Louis Gray
I dabbled in blogging mid last year, but all it was really was my attempt at a lifestream before I ever heard of services like Friendfeed. I did end up crossing the streams at times. It never felt comfortable since I didnt want to spam. At the same time though I kept thinking "I have differents sets of friends on twitter, stumbleupon, pownce, ect. How else can I make sure they all see...
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- Tony, Paradox of FF
FF could make this easier and 'collapse' multiple items into one i.e. if I share something from Google Reader and bookmark it on delicious, only one item should appear in FF. I wonder if FF is too focused on where we doing things rather than what we're doing?
- Andy Davies
what I'm saying is that, if you add the same links to 2 different services, there's no need to add both services to FF. Just one would be enough. Of course, if there are things that are unique for each one of them, it's understandable.
- Alejandro
Great article and nice reference to Ghostbusters. I'm guilty of crossing my streams. That's because I'm a mega-consumer of my own streams, so I keep them all completely connected (borrowing term from graph theory). But in terms of output, only a few things get crossed. Overall, I think redundancy is good, but I can also see that it can be annoying too.
- Mike Reynolds
Facebook knows who you are, and that's worth more than you think - http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2008...
Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ, nadim, Paulo Gomes and 35 other people liked this
I agree with the potential, but I wonder how social network sites that hog the data could also exploit that without getting into trust issues. It would be more effective to exploit that knowledge outside of the network itself, especially when the user is going to make financial transactions (e.g. buying something on the web).
- Alexander van Elsas
You made me rethink (momentarily) my assessment of ChaCha, an Indiana "human powered" search engine from the brain child that brought us voice mail Scott Jones. There are some smart people working on it and there is potential there, but this identity thing is important. I doubt stay at home moms making 5 cents a search will be better at finding things online than me.
- Clare Dibble
Facebook's biggest opportunity is . . . identity management? I don't think so.
- Erick Schonfeld
Identity ownership ...via AlertThingy
- Omar Ismail
"Ebay has had a relatively solid lock on the auction market due to network effects, but with billions of dollars in profits, a $42 billion market cap, and 10 years of not innovating, I'm willing to bet that won't last." -- So you're saying Facebook is the new ebaykiller?
- j1m
I'm thinking about advertising. For example, when you search, getting served ads for relevant products that your friends use/have raved about in the past. I would be much more likely to click an ad for a product if I knew it was based on a friend's recommendation.
- David Adam
Facebook's biggest opportunity is . . . making users mad, IMHO. It's made me mad more than once.
- Voyagerfan5761
Someone is going to kill ebay. Google (because of it's massive distribution) and Facebook (identity info and significant distribution) are the most likely candidates.
- Paul Buchheit
Erick, I'm not sure what you mean by "identity management", but knowing who people are is very valuable. It's how every organization that really cares about security works. Think of FBI background checks, except instead of manually finding and talking to your family and friends, it's done automatically.
- Paul Buchheit
Facebook will use micropayments, I'm pretty sure about that. Not only will that open up new opportunities for application developers, it will open up an enormous revenue stream for that. This isn't exactly "identity management", but it will work because Facebook's users are real people and it's a trusted environment because of that. People will trust their money into Facebook's handy. MySpace, for example, won't be able to do that.
- sebmos
I guess that eBay will be "killed" by Amazon and Craigslist (and other similar platforms). Craigslist for auctions, Amazon for e-commerce. But eBay has its own Craigslist-clone running, Kijiji. So who knows. I doubt that Facebook will kill eBay, though.
- sebmos
There are things that are valuable. There are things that are profitable. And the two are correlated. But there are (sadly) things that are valuable but won't bring profit, and thus will be underdeveloped, and there also are (sadly) things that are worthless but bring profit, and thus will lead to bogosity in the world.
- Amit Patel
Great article! Too bad about the ominous sounding title though. I think it's nothing but positive that the distinction between online and offline behavior is blurring so much. (Obviously you do too Paul, but I still rue the title!) But I agree with Alexander's comment that a more publicly accessible model will help a lot too. How to let it live outside the network, but remain protected from exploitation by cheaters?
- Edward Zwart
I have a large and valuable social network. If an application can unlock the value there (not just to me, but to my employer as well, for instance), then I think Facebook can justify its huge valuation.
- Piaw Na
Maybe I'm weird but I've never bought anything on Ebay. It seems to require me to put too much trust in random and unaccountable strangers. Now if Facebook were to make their Marketplace into the ultimate combination of Amazon's Used&New and Ebay but backed up with a decent attack resistant trust metric system then they'd be able to justify their valuation.
- Adewale Oshineye
Decided to react to Paul's post and thought of 5 ways for Facebook to start justifying their $15 bln valuation: http://tinyurl.com/3szhdh It's interesting to see what other ideas float around about that. The are infinite possibilities, but it's a balancing act in my opinion.
- Alexander van Elsas
The line about eBay not having innovated in the last 10 years was interesting to read. Perhaps you could elaborate on that a bit. I don't watch eBay closely and only mostly use it for "direct buy" stuff (I don't like the added info noise of having to track an auction, even though I understand that is exactly what's exciting to some about the service) so I don't know much about it.
- Philipp Lenssen
@Adewale trying to overcome existing general problem of uncertainty in trade? trade people were trying to do that for ages :)
- A.T.
re: phillipp; My thoughts exactly! - that ebay line struck me as the single most important/intriguing sentence of what was a very cool post. Paul, any interest in writing further about the ebay dilemma?? Just how vulnerable are they and why?? Consumerism (linear) is obviously a major issue in america right now - and yet very few bloggers seem willing/able to work the topic into the discourse of the day (re: dots have yet to be connected).
- Will DeLuca
Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All - New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
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"In the late 1950s and early ’60s, the most positive answer the pollsters offered was, “Although I am not innumerably satisfied, I am generally satisfied with life now.” (Can you imagine an American poll offering that option?) But in 1964, the most positive answer became simply, “Completely satisfied.”"
- Paul Buchheit
Interesting graph, but there are tons of reasons why that might not be a direct relationship.
- Samuel Bostock
Hong Kong (my hometown!) stands out on the graph as being surprisingly unhappy given how rich it is.
- Jess Lee
Beware the log scale on the graph. Jamaicans have 8X less "wealth" than Hong Kongers ($4000 vs $32000) but appear to be "happier". It looks like money doesn't translate to happiness very efficiently. Given the slope on the graph, Hong Kongers would need an average GDP of $128,000 to be as happy as Danes. Jess, I suspect the main reason is cultural: China also trails the pack.
- Sanjeev Singh
Maybe Hong Kong is sad that you left, Jess.
- Jim Norris
Also, the graph is using PPP-adjusted per-capita GDP, as opposed to e.g. adjusted median income, and Hong Kong has relatively high income inequality compared to Western countries due to a continuous influx of Chinese immigrants.
- Jim Norris
Feeling slightly stiff after battling too many zombies in Half Life 2 last night
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