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Dewald Pretorius posted a message
June 14 at 10:49 am - Link
I meant on FriendFeed, of course. - Dewald Pretorius
Hi, I created a Greasemonkey script to do this job, would you like to try it out and give me some feedbacks? http://thetinybit.com/Project/... - Yu-Jie Lin
"Any sub-entry of entry is written in language which you don't want to read, then the whole entry will be excluded." Any way you can exclude only the foreign language comment, and not the entire entry? - Dewald Pretorius
Can't download it.. - Shey
@Shey "Install directly" points at wrong place, fixed, please try again. - Yu-Jie Lin
@Dewald Pretorius That really is important to have, I will make it happen in next version. - Yu-Jie Lin
@Yu-Jie Still can't download even after refreshing - Shey
Is it just me? None of these links are working for me -- they don't even budge - Shey
I think it's just me -- for some reason I can't install any GM script - Shey
why filter. . . couldnt we write some code to translate? - Anthony
If you write code to on the fly translate Persian/Farsi and English back and forth, let me know. - Michael W. May via twhirl
@Mike W May....i mentioned that a while ago but it never took...I really think FF should just ask you when you sign up, and that language you chose should be the proprietary. - Anthony
Google Translate has an API. They can just hook into that. - Dewald Pretorius
Just made an update that supports in-place hidden and few other things. If you are interested in getting latest version of this script, please bookmark http://friendfeed.com/e/21463e... - Yu-Jie Lin
Yu-Jie, I'd be interested in FF translation GM script using Google Translate API...even if it is a bit slow. - Hao Chen
@Hao Chen, ok, give me few days to try. - Yu-Jie Lin
I would LOVE to see translation - it's a shame we don't look to that more. It's never the case that I don't "care" what someone says in a foreign language, I may just not understand. - Vince DeGeorge
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Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader
Friday at 9:36 am - Link
"Broken" seems like an incorrect characterization."Does not agree my world view" is perhaps a better way to describe the situation. - Brian Sullivan
No it's not. - Hutch Carpenter
Brian - agreed. - Hutch Carpenter
+1 Broken, but I guess I just share Alexander's world view. Not quite directly on point, but IMHO nothing has done more to fragment the conversation more quickly than FriendFeed's current work flow of adding a top level item every time someone diggs, shares, bookmarks, or posts a direct link to somebody elses content. Take this post, for example. I think the original article should be the anchor point for the conversation in FF. Not the fact that Louis shared it. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, but I would never have even seen the post had Louis not shared it. The web is fine, it's the people using it who are broken. :-) - Robert Seidman
That all depends on how FF "fixed" it, Robert. FF can certainly connect subsequent mentions of/links to the same URL back to the original item. The fact that Louis shared it is really no different than him commenting on it, and either action could raise the item in your stream. UI mockup here :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/k... - Ken Sheppardson
I think there is a desire to control conversation that is a hold over from MSM media ideas from the 20th century. It seems to pop up all over even occasionally in people like Scoble that claim to have fully embraced social media (to be fair to Robert though his dalliances in control need seem short lived) - Brian Sullivan
The fact is, I saw it because of Louis. The fact is, busted as you may think it is, Ken, more people saw the post because of a "busted system". My conclusion is that the busted system is therefore better. That is not to say FriendFeed can't (and won't) improve how it presents the information. - Robert Seidman
Agreed, Robert. I just think we have a long way to go. For me it's not a matter of controlling the conversation so much as bringing together people with a common interest. Sure, it's nice to have 50 little conversations between three or four folks, but the technology could be used to 150 people together in one well structured exchange of ideas. To me the latter seems much more significant than the former. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, these are definitely still very early days not just for friendfeed. That said I don't agree with your contention that more is better. If you get 150 people aligned around a goal and are actually looking to get "results" I agree with you. The results most bloggers seem to be looking for, however, is traffic. - Robert Seidman
Robert: I'm not looking for more traffic. I'm looking to have interesting conversations with interesting people. Personally, smaller conversations are usually more interesting. - Robert Scoble
Heh. Traffic. Yep. Like I said. Broken. ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Robert Scoble: you are definitely NOT "most bloggers" :-) I agree with you 100% and don't find anything broken about it. - Robert Seidman
I disagree with the premise that comments were once centralized. Conversations happen all over the place -and always have: newsgroups, blogs, forums, etc. twitter and others simply added one more place. - LPH
the main ff page is the watering hole, and the other comments elsewhere are like the copy machine chatter.. :)- nada thing wrong with both.. just need to keep ears close to the ground to hear which calvary is coming :)- - Peter Dawson
LPH: Twitter may add one more place, but FF adds another discussion every time someone makes note of something on another site. If both Louis and Robert, for example, bookmark this article, there are going to be at least two parallel conversations. The larger your following, the more people you'lll have in your conversation about somebody elses idea. I don't really see anything evil or wrong with that, I'm just somewhat disappointed in the paradigm. - Ken Sheppardson
For years one of the main areas of development on the web has been the search engine technology. Tracking down all the "conversations", so to speak. I know, I know, entropy's going to increase. That doesn't mean I have to like it. :-) - Ken Sheppardson
it's not broken, it just reforms and reorganises around human bahaviour - we have known this for many years and we see it again and again and again: human behaviour routes around problems and keeps going, not broken! - Ivan Pope via twhirl
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Andrew Baron posted a message
Friday at 6:11 am - Link
Why? Twitter updates reach two audiences: here and Twitter, and still can spark discussions in the same way any other service can. - Mark Trapp
I did it because Ive started to use my Twitter account for a single purpose and felt as though it was just adding noise to my Friendfeed acct. - Andrew Baron
The great thing about diversifying your services, I've found, is that it gives people who are following you finer grain control on what noise they want to hear. I may want to see everything you're doing and sharing except for your status updates: but if you combine everything into just using the Friendfeed share something link, I can't filter out the different types of items in your feed anymore. - Mark Trapp
I'm thinking about doing the same as I only use Twitter as a broadcast service now. - Colin Walker via fftogo
@Colin Same here. If I want a conversation, I post the message to FriendFeed - Shey
@Colin I think you nailed it. Twitter is more for broadcasting. FF is a lot more like a blog with comments. Most people dont include their tweets as blog posts. Anyway, once I turned off the Twitter noise, I started to think of FF much more like a link blog, which Im liking (but also not wanting to muddy up with my Tweets). - Andrew Baron
I want to do the same, but I'm wondering if ppl try and MSG me thru twitter after discovering in FF. Also, I'm now twitterfeeding my FF internal RSS. - Hao Chen
yes i have made that shift- using twitter to answer the question "What are you doing?" and discussing it over here on FF. - Nathan Eckenrode
I did the same a few months back and I don't regret it. The audience that I cater to on Twitter is different and I'm not about to go back and forth checking FF for Twitter replies. - Corvida via feedalizr
Twitter inside of friendfeed is pretty irritating. Not everything decontextualizes well. - Dave Coustan
boy I've been thinking about it for long long time, never had the guts @colin I'm twitterfeeding lots of my friendfeed on twitter just to keep my network over there in the loop, some people are just not happy with leaving twitter behind an dmoving on - Dobromir Hadzhiev
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Jennifer Leggio posted a message
Friday at 8:29 am - Link
The whole karma thing bugs me. Turns microblogging into a competitive sport. - Hutch Carpenter
The threading is really nice, but for some people the simplicity of twitter is much more appealing. - Rob Diana
Look at what's happening on identi.ca. The race for the most amount of followers. Same difference if you ask me. - Bwana McCall
I haven't found Plurk to be usable. The sideways scrolling, the constant "You have an update!" notifications: it gives me a headache. - Mark Trapp
i tried plurk -- a little too bubblegum for me to be honest. plus the karma points make me feel like i'm in some competition. - Cee Bee
I enjoy the threaded conversations while I'm there. Really really easy to have conversations. It took me a week to get used to the timeline, but when I did, I could see the value. It's a totally different animal from Twitter. (literally) - Bwana McCall
I haven't used Plurk THAT much, but it seems to be carving out its niche as a chatty, lightweight application. There's clearly a group of people who really like it. It won't appeal to everyone, but I think it will find its own audience, probably at the expense of Twitter or FriendFeed. Shrug. If nothing else, it shows that people are interested in conversations, just as they have been for the past 20+ years. I will probably be an occasional user at best, but it probably wasn't designed for me either. - Mark Dykeman
I try not to compare it to Twitter and judge it on its own merits. I just feel overwhelmed having to collapse every single thread just to see if I might be interested in the convo. And having to collapse every thread to see if anyone responded to time. I can't even fathom how a business might use it as some folks have suggested. - Jennifer Leggio
Regarding Jennifer's question, I sincerely believe people who say they like Plurk. Of course there are some who simply must be right as that is true with any situation, but the people I've observed and talked to on Plurk use it for meaningful purposes. You hate it and it seems like you hate to see people like it. :) It's not a black and white type thing though. The term "reality" doesn't have a factual meaning here because liking Plurk is purely opinionated. - Bwana McCall
I disagree that Plurk can be used for business purposes. In my opinion, it's a social, fun tool to be used between friends and family. - Bwana McCall
Regarding following threads, the technique I found to work was selective reading. To "catch up" on Plurk, you will drive yourself nuts if you try to read every thread. What I do is skim the conversations and find the 2 or 3 I'm interested in and I read those. With the new "mute" functionality, I have a rule that if a unwanted conversation shows up 3 or more times when I catch up, I mute the thread. This workflow allows me to catch up on hundreds of updates in minutes. - Bwana McCall
Even with that technique, many don't want to bother with all that. That's perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with disliking it. Plurk can be a huge timesink even with efficient techniques. That was a big reason why I cut back my usage. I would spend hours talking to people. No time for that :) - Bwana McCall
@Bwana "You hate it and it seems like you hate to see people like it." That was an incorrect, unfounded and unnecessary judgment. Just trying to understand it as all. I don't have that much free time to sit around and play with all of these tools so I ask questions to get other people's insights. I expressed an opinion but that does not mean I hate the other people like it. I don't understand why other people like it. Big difference. That comment kind of discredited your whole statement. - Jennifer Leggio
It was a joke Jennifer, hence the smiley. Text sucks for wit. - Bwana McCall
There are lots of things I dislike -- baseball, pork, country music. I may ask questions to better understand the appeal and in doing so I might express my own opinion, but that doesn't mean it bothers me if other people like it. I just may never agree and may always look at them with a raised eyebrow. ;-) - Jennifer Leggio
@Bwana - Yeah, hard to tell if comments with a smiley online are jokes or passive aggression. lol. In that case ignore my statement. But I still dislike Plurk, baseball, pork and country music. ;-) - Jennifer Leggio
Plurk took away the ability to delete an account about 2 weeks ago... I wonder why that is...? I'm guessing Account Retention due to an increased frequency of deletions... sad though that they would prevent you from deleting your account. They don't answer support inquiries either. Fail across the board. Oh, I should mention that I exploited the site to add thousands of friends at once and it broke the functionality of the site for many of the people on my friends list. They still haven't fixed those issues - Brandon
I'd like to know how in the world people would use Plurk in their business. A far stretch would be to gather feedback from their products (as businesses do on Twitter, etc). Other than that... I can't see it at all. - Bwana McCall
I find the headless graphic disturbing. - Angel Aviles-McClinton
@Bwana Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out. I've seen a lot of claims made but nothing in action. If I hear of anything concrete I will let you know. - Jennifer Leggio
@Brandon I'm actually interviewing the Plurk folks sometime in the next week so I'll ask them about the account deletion and support. - Jennifer Leggio
Angel - so did I at first. You can change that graphic, but it's not obvious - Bwana McCall
I think the Karma thing bugs me the most. The timeline, is kitschy and I think needlessly complexifies the UI, but ultimately is just a personal preference. I could see businesses using it the same way they use twitter, but with greater potential for starting a dialogue since it is trivial for anyone to track the full conversation. - felix
@Jennifer That sounds great, thanks. - Brandon
have a plurk but check it minimally - never really had what i was looking for, but neither did jaiku or pownce - think identi.ca will be the same way - am liking swurl so far though but friendfeed is the real keeper... - mike "glemak" dunn
@Mike Agree. I think that FF has the most sustainability of them all. I wish I could say that about Twitter as I do <3 it... but not looking so good. - Jennifer Leggio
@Jennifer agreed, i ♥ twitter too but things aren't looking that well anymore. FF ftw. - Brandon
@mediaphyter, Plurk is as good as the friends you follow... yet I can't condone one replacing the other. - Czar Derek Peterman
Jennifer I can tell you that the people using Plurk are there because we honestly love it. I was on there last night laughing my head off till I was crying at some of the stuff other people were plurking about. It was literally roll in the floor hilarious! I can understand why some people don't like Plurk, but I can also understand EXACTLY why those of us that spend time on Plurk, love it. - Mack Collier
@Mack But the hilarity of the content has nothing to do with the platform, it's the people right? Those people could be anywhere. I have similar experiences with Twitter and FriendFeed and even Pownce before I retired from there. Saying "but it's funny" doesn't defend the platform. It just says you happen to have a good network or find good conversations. That can be done anywhere. - Jennifer Leggio
I'm over at Plurk trying to give it another chance. It's making me feel like I have ADD. Plus there's no way I will remember all of the threads I've posted on. Maybe I need to carry around a Plurk notepad and write them down? :-/ - Jennifer Leggio
Yeah, but people also tout the virtues of MySpace. - Evo Terra via twhirl
Plurk does seem to be a love/hate app - Sarah Perez
Why do people feel that Plurk has to be useful for business? I wasn't into social media at the time but did this type of discussion happen when MySpace came out? Unless you have a band, not too many business uses for that either but it's still very popular. - Vaughn
@Vaughn I don't think anyone's saying it has to be useful for business - but a lot of people are claiming that it is. So I want to understand how (and am currently having that convo with Plurk itself via email). As for MySpace, as much as I've outgrown that myself, a lot of consumer-oriented companies DO still use it for branding and promotion. It's a lot of the B2B companies that it has scared off. - Jennifer Leggio
@Jennifer Leggio That makes sense. Sometimes I feel that Plurk is the square peg and people are trying to force it into the round hole. - Vaughn
Jennifer, stick around a bit longer, it grows on you. But notably: different types of conversation, more informal, less depth. In terms of the layout, I don't like it either, which is why I created Plurkair using the mobile version for the desktop: I prefer Plurk Twitter style, and in that way it's an able player in the space - Duncan Riley
Only mouse-clickers like Plurk. For the keyboard folk, it's like trying to write a 4000 word physics essay with a giant crayon, horrible interface! and Karma? "come back to our service more than Twitter, or we will punish you!". Plurk sucks ass. - Cait
Plurk just blows my mind. I click on something and then it's all ZAZOW and does something crazy I didn't expect. - brad sucks
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Canada best to escape climate change - Telegraph
Friday at 7:09 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"A new study of nations’ vulnerability to the impacts of global warming found Canada was the most secure, while the Comoros Islands, off the coast of Africa, are least equipped to deal with future dangers." - Shey via Bookmarklet
Is it just me or is the list more or less divided in terms of development? Doesn't it seem to suggest that all the developed countries will get by and the rest of the world will not? How is Japan in that list when the factors are popln density, land area and agriculture? - Parth Awasthi via twhirl
Wait..if temps were to drop dramatically, Canada would be the first to turn into a popsicle, no? - Hao Chen
@Parth i would seem that way and it also has to do with population density: "This is because of the low pressure on natural resources resulting from a low population density and large land area, combined with high agricultural capacity, a healthy economy, few development and health challenges and excellent public institutions." - Shey
@Hao Temps in Toronto are already so messed up, I don't think it could get worse. In Spring and Autumn temps can go up or down 15 degrees celcius in less than a day. - Shey
Steven Hodson will outlive us all. - Jason Kaneshiro
Shey, I think that the LakeShore corridor will be no more . Al that water melting to the will certainly fill up the lakes to..just not the sea levels !! @Hao, u got a point there.."the day after tomorrow" story :)- - Peter Dawson
@Jason ROFL - Shey
I guess I'm moving to Yellowknife, NT, though the south pacific looks like a better place - clarke
Shey: Exactly my point. The list ignores the first few factors, it concentrates heavily on - 'a healthy economy, few development and health challenges and excellent public institutions'. The counterpart to global warming is fiercer winters - not exactly great for agriculture. Low popln - won't people migrate in the event of an apocalypse?It ignores the dependence of the food cycle on plants and of plants on the sun. Most studies reveal the tropics as our best bet despite higher chances of imminent flooding. - Parth Awasthi
Some people are buying land along the projected Arctic shipping route. Others are investing in land assuming a 100-200+ ft water rise. - Mitchell Tsai
thats an interesting concept, new shipping lines across the Arctic, it will cut shipping cost from China to America :)- - Peter Dawson
Parth, those are all good points. Hopefully they factored that in somehow. That being said, the most developed countries are still gonna have an upper hand anyway. - Shey
Most notable about this is that the "western world" - North America, Western Europe and Australia are all LEAST likely to suffer climate change. Aren't the "collective we" most responsible according to the so-called experts? - Aaron Brazell
@Aaron We are, yes. But I'd say China and India are also to blame and they aren't in the green here. - Shey
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Shey posted a message
Thursday at 9:37 pm - Link
I'm gonna think outside the box and choose telegraphy! - Tad Donaghe
blogging - Bwana McCall
Blogging. Fits my personality better. - Hutch Carpenter
Blogging. I don't like the choice though. - Michael C. Harris
Blogging because I like adding screenshots to my posts :D - Corvida via twhirl
Please define-blogging and microblogging? Why must we choose. They are both talking but in different ways. - Mark Forman
I micro-blog and blog haha Plus, there's the "read more after jump" option for people who don't like lengthy posts... - Mona N
easy - "microblogging" - b/c I can always write in journals or email... but Twitter rocks my world. - Lucretia Pruitt
Writing. - Kirk Kittell
etching with silver nitrate. - Nathan Eckenrode
blogging - AJ Kohn
I would say blogging, because I count micro-blogging as just a subset of blogging. Meaning...I have really made no choice at all. I still get to do both :) - Rahsheen Porter
Does FF participation count as micro-blogging? I participate in FF a lot more than my blog now. More convenient, easier to start a conversation and keep it going. No self-imposed timetable or post quota to keep up with to make sure enough people are interested in being part of my "audience" (it's built in with FF). Easier to interact with people and get more interaction back. Easier to find the answers to my questions. FF does all I really wanted out of blogging anyway. - Lindsay Donaghe
microblogging - Bjorn Tipling
Blogging. But I do both. - Chris Baskind
blogging - Steven Hodson
Podcasts. - Cote'
Don't make me choose! OK, I choose blogging. - Summer
Only blogging+microblogging! - Igor Poltavskiy
depends on my mood and what I want to say. it obv takes a lot less cognitive ability to microblog, but many more mainstream people read my blog. - Philip Ryan Johnson
@Lindsay Yeah I definitely agree. FF takes away a lot of my time that I would spend doing other things, that's why I've significantly cut my usage over the past couple weeks. - Shey
definitely would stay with blogging. I can live without things like Twitter. - Rob Diana
Definitely blogging. - Colin Walker via fftogo
If had known micro-blogging / lifestreaming would reach this level, I probably wouldn't blog at all - Charlie Anzman
I can always find time to micro-blog... - Rachel Beer
Micro blogging == FF? If FF posts supported more length, formatting and inclusion of media then blogging would disappear for most people - Brian Sullivan
blogging - Sarah Perez
wait no - micro-blogging - Sarah Perez
OMG - don't make me choose! - Sarah Perez
Easy... blogging. - Louis Gray
I don't think we have to or need to choose. Both are great for different things. - Tris Hussey via twhirl
more and more I am falling towards the micro blogging side. I sometimes think I should just get rid of my traditional blog. - (jeff)isageek
Since you did not mention IM, blogging, even though I do little of it, there are times a long public rant is needed for the psyche - Michael W. May via twhirl
Micro blogging doesn't exist. - Andru Edwards
Mini-blogging. Creating content while wearing a mini-skirt. - Andy C
98% of my blog's readers do not know what twitter is and they don't care. When I used twitter tools to publish an daily digest of my tweets, they hated it. So: The answer is Blogging. - Rick Powell
I agree with Lindsay. Post directly to FF. - Russellreno
ooh.. tough one.. blogging! - Heidi Jeffers Thibodeau
microblogging. I could never keep my blog up to date - Andy Wilkin via feedalizr
I would microblog. Microblogging is easier, and it makes you look smarter to be able to say something insightful in only 140 characters. - possible248
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John McCrea published a photo on Flickr
TheSocialWebTV
Thursday at 2:31 pm - Link
I am looking for suggestions for guests to have on this weekly program that I am launching together with Joseph Smarr, David Recordon, and Chris Messina. - John McCrea
Robert Scoble, will you come on to our show to help people understand the pain associated with using lots of different social media tools in an era in which we (as vendors) have not yet delivered on the vision of data portability and interoperability? - John McCrea
I liked the show! All of you guys have great video presence, IMO. - J. Phil
Sounds Kick Ass! - Britney Mason
Thanks, J.Phil and Britney Mason! - John McCrea
John: would love to! - Robert Scoble
Robert: Sweet! How about July 17 (when we shoot Episode 2)? (11:00am, Mountain View) - John McCrea
Sounds good, send me details in email. scobleizer@gmail.com to get it on my calendar. - Robert Scoble
Watching right now, really enjoying it, John! Congratulations - Matt Harwood
Although it's hard to say, I think I was a 'connector' here.. that makes me feel good. I want to get better at connecting people. A talent Louis Gray has in spades. - J. Phil
Robert, great. Will do. - John McCrea
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Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader
Friday at 10:20 am - Link
I was thinking if i could have themes or skins for friendfeed to give it a personal look or something I might just point my domain name jeffisageek.net to it and have it be my home page since it has everything i do on it now anyways. - (jeff)isageek
Jeff - Agreed, I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Just wish we could style it a bit. Swurl is kind of what I'm thinking. Let me have a custom header and sidebar, put the content in the middle and I would just make it my primary page. - Kevin Shannon
yeah, make FF a skinable app /page.. then we can all have phun :)- - Peter Dawson
Good idea in this post for start-ups. Don't let the name squatters grab the prominent personalities out there, like Scobleizer. If you look at Twitter, folks like Scoble, Leo Laporte, Dave Winer, Steve Rubel, etc. really market that service. You WANT to make sure these guys find your service and can get the same name on yours that they use elsewhere. - Hutch Carpenter
jeff, kevin, what i want to do is pull several conversations onto one site ... - gregory lent
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Louis Gray posted an entry on louisgray.com
Friday at 11:05 am - Link
Meh, needs friendfeed, also Native OS X would be nice. good post though. - Bjorn Tipling
what is this twitter AIR app #1000 :) those things things mate more the bunnies! - (jeff)isageek
Now, now, Jeff. I mentioned in the article that I typically prefer native apps or Web apps to AIR apps, but this one is very interesting, at least to me. I dig it. - Louis Gray
im just trying to be funny...hehe good post btw. - (jeff)isageek
Wow, twhirlscope down -- gotta try this out - Shey
ah! and I was wondering why my twitter vanity search hit on that topic as I do not like the air apps. but grouping actually would be a reason to try it out. problem: as long as twitter decimates the request rates it is unreliable, but a first step in the right direction. will download it now ;) - Nicole Simon
Louis, I think you're right - there is still innovation happening around Twitter, fortunately. The fact is there is still a huge audience on Twitter and that audience still has the potential to be monetized. I'm even building something around Twitter at the moment. There is still that threat though, that developers could leave if Twitter keeps neglecting them - it's in the back of the mind - Jesse Stay
"feels" like Twhirl. Wish it had FF support...if it does it wasn't obvious from the website. I agree with others that I'd really like to see these Adobe air apps with some better skins - Rob Neville via twhirl
"Now, now, Jeff. I mentioned in the article that I typically prefer native apps or Web apps to AIR apps, but this one is very interesting, at least to me." - That's part of why I like the platform so much. Most people like native apps but AIR apps are pretty easy to build so there's bound to be a few that people really like. (Ryan - rstewart@adobe.com) - Ryan Stewart
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Akiva Moskovitz posted a message
Friday at 8:37 am - Link
I keep secretly wishing I hit some sort of usage limit so I have to walk away. Damn you Friendfeed and your scalability! - Mark Trapp
It's a lot harder for me to walk away from FriendFeed than Twitter. - Michelle Martinez
I refresh often too - Judy Jones
F5 = crack - Hutch Carpenter
Welcome to da club? - Yuvi
I find FF more interesting as well. - Globecode
I resent the implication that ever-refreshing FriendFeed is not constructive! - Marco
lol@Hutch Indeed - Shey
It's gotten so bad that I have to regulate myself. I use a plug-in for FireFox called Leechblock that you can use to limit your time during the work day.: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... - Dan Kaplan
huh? F5 just blips my Mac's little sound level at me. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas F5 = Command + R on a PC. Refresh. - Parth Awasthi
Yes, FF is the new internet addiction. F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5... - Tad Donaghe
The only way to solve this problem is for you people to post quicker ;) - Earl E Morningwood
Use LeechBlock, limit yourself to 5 minutes an hour, you won't be sorry. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... - Jason Wehmhoener
@Jason you essentially just told Amy Winehouse she should check herself into rehab - how likely do you think we are to match your show of discipline? lol ; ) - Marco
At some point we just need FF to auto-refresh every second and include a pause button so we can stop the action to read stuff that catches our eyes. That would be pretty freaky, huh? - Tad Donaghe
it has been eating into my reading and sleeping time - RAPatton
What? Reading Friendfeed isn't constructive or creative? - Tom Landini
like right now, for example - Sarah Perez
Sometimes I interrupt what I'm doing (re-reading the manual for Twilight Struggle) just to check for new FriendFeed action. Totally addicted. - Akiva Moskovitz
I do that too. But now we're going to see the Incredible Hulk. - Robert Scoble
F5=Crack. Crack is Whack. Flickr = Crack. FF is the new Flickr. - Russellreno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... It helps if you don't notice the walls of the maze aren't very high and there are these people looking down on you. - Karim
RusselReno, I had to double-check to make sure that you weren't Steve Gillmor - Todd McKinney
@Todd rofl - Michael W. May via twhirl
+1 rofl for Todd. And good one Russell. - Hutch Carpenter
and sometimes you just can't help a 'likey' even thought you didn't click ... right? :) - Charlie Anzman
a bigger screen real estate could mitigate this problem - Ramesh Ramloll via twhirl
Yeah it's addictive :) - JegerPhil - Phil via NoiseRiver
Wait that's not normal??? - Mona N
FrF cries for TTS ;) - silpol
time consumption is simply the manual behavior. Get an auto refresher and save a micro second. ;) then again, if you want to remain aware, you have to read everything! - thecolor
use twhirl and updates come automatically to your desktop... no need of refresh, layout is awesome (discussions, etc) - Gustavo Munoz via twhirl
If we could get paid for using FriendFeed, wouldn't we all have our own private islands? - possible248
More like one palm tree, a couple of rocks, and a sewage outflow. - Akiva Moskovitz
FriendFeed Addiction:) - Igor Poltavskiy
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Tad Donaghe posted a message
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what you want is something i've been crying for, for years & its data poritablity - sam via twhirl
Yeah, but I want automagic data portability. I want it to go on in the background. I don't even want to know it's there. I just want to click a button to sign up for a service and be done with it. Or better yet, have my IA sign up for the services it figures I'd be interested in, and then just show me the best content from said services. - Tad Donaghe
Tad: join our sect. I'll be your guru there! :) http://friendfeed.com/rooms/da... - directeur via NoiseRiver
Go go social graph. - Eric Florenzano
Again directeur - I support the movement, I'm just bored by it. Just make it work. ;) The internets is for dumping awesome into the truck of utility. - Tad Donaghe
Tad, I myself already using some of its techs in my products :) If you're a dev do so too, if not pass the message :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
One thing I was wondering along this same vein, are there ajax widgets or something that you could put on your blog/site and allow people to subscribe/follow/digg/stumble/whatever you in one click? Must I visit the actual site every time? - Rahsheen Porter
I'd LOVE That Rahsheen! That'd be an excellent intermediate step. I think too many sites are still too worried about attention focusing. They WANT you to visit their site to stroke their ego, ads, etc - Tad Donaghe
I don't see why something like this doesn't exist for all social sites. You are adding the person so that you can interact with them at a later time on that service, so they shouldn't care if you hit the site to add them as a "friend." The "+friend" buttons on Digg work exactly how I want, I would just rather them be on MY site and work for every social network. - Rahsheen Porter
I was just twitter-moaning the same thing when I saw this in FF, some of you want leaps and bounds, I'd be happy if I could just join a new network and have all my accounts/contacts automagically connected - Scott Bannon via twhirl
actually, it seemed like swurl did that automatically... - edythe
Ya, we do, check us out http://www.swurl.com/ We try to do as much magic as we can for you, computers are suppose to be smart aren't they? - Ryan Sit
i was just about to say, I dig that swurl and feedly just kind of did that. I haven't gotten on board with feedly yet but I like the concept. Find me. Don't make me find myself. - Jason Toney
it is my hope to built it... and then "they" will come :) - Larry via twhirl
I want a FireFox plugin that auto logs me in to all the websites I use. I think that would do a lot of good. It seems like this would be possible but no one has written one! - Stefan Hayden
I still think this is like asking GM to make your key fit in a Toyota, cause you only want to carry one key. Most of these services are competitors. No (successful) business makes it easier for you to move to a competitor. - Brian Norwood
Brian, one of the reasons I don't use more web services is exactly because I'm sick of signing up for them and manually re-adding all my friends. If sites want us to use them they can either better make it brain dead simple or offer a service so compelling that we're willing to do the hard stuff. For many competitors who don't offer something that much different, an auto-subscription thing that I'm talking about would allow them to attract many more users. - Tad Donaghe
Tad, I don't dispute the truth of your statement, or deny I suffer from sign-up fatigued as well. I'm just saying it doesn't fit any business model I've ever seen to help you easily move to a competitor. What we need is a third party service who keeps track of our info and our friends, then custom shoe horns that stuff into each new service that pops up. THAT would be handy. Open ID is too passive. What we need is a sign up SERVICE. - Brian Norwood
would love to be able to import all my flickr contacts, have them match up with FF accounts where possible and create imaginary friends for the rest which would be replaced by their actual accounts as they joined over time. - Thomas Hawk
Right Thomas - and you ought to be able to do that just by clicking a single button that says "Import my contacts." Or at the very least have a single button and a drop down - Import -> Flickr - Tad Donaghe
I really like swurl, haven't messed with feedly yet, but even with swurl I had to manually input all of my account names/URL's/etc. to bring everything together. It wasn't hard, but it wasn't automagic either. Brian mentioned OpenID as too passive, I disagree with that and think user data could be expanded to contain the social network connections you have, then when you join a new service with your OpenID that service could automagically grab everything for you in the background. I'm not pushing for OpenID as the answer, just saying that's one possibility that wouldn't be overwhelming to achieve. - Scott Bannon via twhirl
I was really impressed with how well swurl worked. - Jason Wehmhoener
concur on swurl doing that automatically via each service - doubt i'll live in it like tend to in ff but it is a cool environment - mike "glemak" dunn
I'm probably the only one who uses rather different sets of “friends” on each network. - Amit Patel
Isn't this what gnip is supposed to do? Also, about swurl -- I would say it's been working a LOT of magic, it added a TON of friends of mine on different services. Ryan - Could you consider some bulk-editing tools for the friends tab? Like "mute all people not on swurl", for example? - J. Phil
Agreed that swurl is fantastic behind the scenes once you enter in your account names/url's for each service... what I'd like to see though is a hubbed identity source so that when you join a new service you don't have to enter your FF username, your Twitter username, your FB feed url and etc. Just let me click "join" and find me--and my connections--everywhere. - Scott Bannon via twhirl
Also, if it gets too magical, you get a service like spokeo. It's kinda scary. - J. Phil
But the point of new social networks is to shed all your stupid non-friends! - ⓞnor
I still want people to be able to add me without leaving my website. Isn't that what AJAX is for, after all? - Rahsheen Porter
How about being able to sign up for disparate services/sites here on FF and automatically have all subscriptions updated in said service and automatically have said service's content spewed out here in FF? I want FF to be my primary hub for all things internets. - Tad Donaghe
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