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Jay Rosen: "If Bloggers Had No Ethics Blogging Would Have Failed, But it Didn't. So Let's Get a Clue." http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone...
Atul Arora and Garrett Fitzgerald liked this
It is interesting how technology supplants different occupations. Let's take movie critics. Prior to the internets I would actually read movie critics opinions of various movies. Now that we have sites like RT I ignore the critics and read the reviews of the "average Joe". Why? Because the "average Joe" internet user has tastes much more like mine than a snooty movie critic. Same can be...
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- Gabby
A Look At Failed Social Networks - http://www.bivingsreport.com/2008...
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Laura Norvig, Garrett Fitzgerald, Patricia F. Anderson and 7 other people liked this
Interesting stuff. Thanks @Zee.
- Pierre-Philippe Martin
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Addendum.....5 winners will be chosen. :-)
- Seagate
Cool, but I have to wait on this until I get home: Facebook is blocked at work.
- Garrett Fitzgerald
Garrett - No prob...you have a month. :-)
- Seagate
@jakks: your boss is worried about you stealing corporate data via Twitter? Damn, wait until he meets a USB Key with a gig of memory or so.
Tyson Key, Carolyn Chan, Clay Newton and 19 other people liked this
He tweeted this article which talked about this: http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs...
- Robert Scoble
Seems like people who know nothing about technology can never get too paranoid.
- Amit Morson
it should have been titled "Corporate Paranoia and Web2.0"
- Chris Rogers
For some industries, it's a real threat that they have to treat the same with all.
- Patricia
that's ok, I just had to explain why keeping an inventory of all portable equipment ON our extranet is a bad thing(tm) >.<
- alphaxion
Patricia: Which industries, how can Twitter post a threat that doesn't exist with email or blogs?
- Amit Morson
a guy in my firehall doesnt give out his email cuz he thinks he will get a virus in his computer
- johnpiercy
The only _new_ threat Twitter posts is how the information is distributed, but it's a greater threat only if you have a substantial number of followers.
- Amit Morson
I recently interviewed at a place that wouldn't allow it's employees to talk to the media, which the them included blogging, commenting on blogs, using twitter, facebook, etc.. (http://earlyreiser.net/content...)
- Bastard Operator From FF
The insurance industry is very, very cautious about any information leaking off a computer to the point that "locked" desktop tools like Kidaro exist. They can't afford to have any potential leaks, period. The same with finance, other markets. I'm not surprised to read these things. Twitter can probably seem as a threat because it allows information to be broadcast out.
- Patricia
@sean I don't ever give my personal details to my full time work beyond my home phone number. Unless I'm getting paid for the interruption, they get no help from me.
- alphaxion
i (@jakks) am a she... it's cool though☺ do you have any experience with socialcast?
- Jaica Kinsman
I agree with @Amit in that due to the fact that Twitter is a broadcast medium it could be easier for an employee to inadvertently pass information to the public. Especially if they have their Twitter posts echoed on FF.
- Kenton
ironically, FF is not blocked. am trying to make sense of the logic.
- Jaica Kinsman
@johnpiercy Understanding risk _even when_ a domain of complex systems are well understood is hard, not intuitive. For instance I didn't know til 2 minutes ago that a Farmer's risk of death (occupational hazard-wise) is higher than that of a Firefighter (at least according to this study: http://www.laurelvfd.org/Firefig... )
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
140 characters or less certainly puts a limit on the scope of exposure.
- Jon Price
@alphaxion that's why I didn't take the job...
- Bastard Operator From FF
@Jon it depends ... at an insurance company you could leak out something like "XXX has terminal cancer" where XXX is some major politician or public figure and have major issues
- Bastard Operator From FF
Reading that devcentral.f5 article, I come off somehow feeling like I just got trolled.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
You know, I've found that the F5 Bloggers really, really like spreading FUD.
- ax0n
@michah Interesting stats michah : http://www.laurelvfd.org/Firefig... )However I would argue that firefighters , dont die on the job the current trend is dieing from cancer "According to the International Association of Firefighters, more union firefighters died of cancer in 2007 than from heart attacks or fire-related injuries combined. Nationally, there were 38 union...
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- johnpiercy
from twhirl
sorry @robertscoble for messingup your thread
- johnpiercy
from twhirl
I actually blogged a response to "twitter security threat" the day it was posted. http://tinyurl.com/5dlwfv
- ax0n
@ax0n "Data Loss Prevention suites, Network Access Control, filtering web proxies and other technological solutions are only masking the problem while making it harder for your employees to work efficiently." Thank you for pointing me to your article. I couldn't agree with you more.
- Jaica Kinsman
I love any company which worries about the loss of company information through electronic means but never looks after the information that leaves every company at the end of each day, only to return the next morning - the employee.
- Ian D. Nock
I dealt with NAC during a windows 2008 course earlier this year. It's actually very interesting from a networking point of view in the way you can quarantine systems that aren't meeting your minimum requirements while on the same LAN. Of course, it's down to how strict you want to be but I would implement NAC on my network and limit it to requiring all network communications in IPSec.
- alphaxion
Also, my ethos regards security on any network I run is that your biggest threat comes from those already on your network. This is where auditing and logs in combination with laying down the law of the company rule supreme rather than overly restrictive security policies. Inform staff they will be held personally accountable for data leaks and list what you consider a data leak. The balance then becomes providing enough security so that those who shouldn't be there can't run amock yet keeping useability.
- alphaxion
@johnpiercy Well, I don't think @scobleizer minds rollicking streams/threads, he said on the election night he was visually scanning 3,600 RealTime FF Friends comfortably. Nevertheless your consideration toward others in the community is welcome and makes this a great place in which to participate. Anyway, thanks for fire-related injuries info - great point.
- Micah Wittman
Great, Robert, you got me thinking - here's a how-to on stealing corporate data... http://enrique-gutierrez.com/2008...
- Sociosophy Reviews
from twhirl
you've forgotten things like IM clients, RDP connections with drive mapping, corporate externally facing HTTP servers where you can dump a few files on for transfer on the sly, VNC with file transfer, IRC with DCC, VPN connections, FTP servers running on tcp port 80 or 445 (won't work if they use DPI and IDS).
- alphaxion
The point i made in my response to the article is that breach is a human problem, and any way a human can communicate or store data is a potential avenue of breach. Forget your RDP, DVD-Rs and secret encrypted tunnels. Think about printed documents, facts people remember in their head, and things of that nature. The same thing goes for "Twitter Terrorism" and the FUD about new communications technology being used by "the enemy". CB Radios or smoke signals might be the next terrorist threat!
- ax0n
In short: Train and discipline employees instead of taking the defense after a breach. Hunt down and stop terrorists rather than monitoring for the same things they were doing two years ago.
- ax0n
Yup, even something as simple as storing customer contacts on personal mobiles. Of course, the biggest security risk is your IT department. We control the gateways, the givers and takers of access. I knew one guy who got shafted by the company he worked for so in a fit of revenge he stole a copy of the CRM database and sold it onto their leading competitor. Treat employees as humans and afford them some trust.
- alphaxion
@ax0n Train and discipline employees......Couldn't agree more!
- Sheila Bailey
Live Mesh Beta - http://www.winsupersite.com/live...
Eric Geller, Garrett Fitzgerald, Kenton and 3 other people liked this
I much prefer DropBox to Live Mesh, especially since I have to sync with Linux. It seems much faster, less invasive, and more stable.
- James Carnley
Jackson, MS: Schools not allowing students to mention Obama - http://www.wlbt.com/Global...
Garrett Fitzgerald liked this
hey, maybe they're racist fucks
- Jeremy Zawodny
Microsoft makes you work from the moment you step on the bus! - http://www.newlaunches.com/archive...
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"If you thought BlackBerry was a curse because of accessibility then wait till you get a load of this. Executives of Microsoft just lost out on the most famous excuse for being late… "Stuck in the Traffic Jam" thanks to these office-equipped buses that ensure you start work on time. The pick up service includes a computer per person so that the clock work starts ticking the moment you log in. I wonder if the same bus leaves them back home…what do they do with the comps then…play Solitaire?"
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
The systems run XP = WTF?
- Yuvi
omg ... IM A PC BUS
- johnpiercy
does the whole bus stop when it gets a Blue screen
- johnpiercy
That is FRICKIN hillarious
- johnpiercy
Total Servitude.....for life!!
- Terence
and what a brave new world they've made.
- .LAG liked that
The blogosphere is alive, well and kicking - http://www.inquisitr.com/7758...
Garrett Fitzgerald, Jay Cruz, Barbara K. Baker and 22 other people liked this
I don't know... I remember when a post like this would've touched off a comment storm lasting the whole weekend. Now you don't even get a picture of a cat titled " I CAN HAZ BITCHMEME." Maybe blogging is dead.
- Sprague D
@Sprague at one point just after the first few posts about the death of blogging I was getting worked up to write something about it but then realized that it was just a load of crap meant to do nothing more that get links .. I went over to icanhascheezburger and played with the kitty cats instead .. much more fun
- Steven Hodson
It might be alive but I can't blog from China. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Why? Сensorship?
- Igor Poltavskiy
No, he's having too much fun.
- WorldofHiglet
Blogging will live as long as people want to share their thoughts and opinions with the world.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
@funkyboy +1
- Igor Poltavskiy
Why The iTouch Is Inevitable - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
Lorin Olsen, Garrett Fitzgerald and Andrew Terry liked this
Creationists unfit to teach science: Kroto - http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment...
bill giltner, Neil Bernhart, Garrett Fitzgerald and 6 other people liked this
GL -- "big bang fundamentalists" is an oxymoron. Big bang theories are based on the latest and best empirical data, and are subject to endless revision and outright discarding in light of the continuing stream of new data. Science uses more rigorous truth standards than religion for understanding the structures and processes of the physical world.
- Sean McBride
Imagining all kinds of things is great fun, but doing science requires a bit more discipline. Science requires moving one careful step at a time, and testing all your beliefs against reality. I'm a full-spectrum kind of guy -- I respect both left-brain and right-brain approaches to understanding the universe. But pure imagination, ungrounded in rigorous method, is not science.
- Sean McBride
I don't think that there is such a thing as right brain or left brain thinking. Your brain filters everything through the emotional processes at some level, which is why you get a feeling in your gut when doing a math problem for instance that tells you whether it is right or wrong. And most of the brain you have no direct control over anyhow.
- Alex Scoble
Alex -- all cognitive processes may be emotional at the root. I was using "left-brain" and "right-brain" mainly in a metaphorical way to refer to the polarities of hard science and engineering on the one hand and arts, literature, humanities, etc. on the other. Great scientists use the same intuitive, imaginative and emotional channels that drive great art and literature, I think....
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- Sean McBride
Gregory, don't you think the kinds of knowledge are different? Understanding "consciousness, individuality, mind, matter, reality" won't produce the periodic table and it won't reveal the ultimate nature of energy. Insight and deduction hit a wall that empiricism leaps over for material understanding.
- Todd Hoff
Alex, did you watch "Jill Bolte Taylor: My stroke of insight"(http://www.ted.com/index...)? My understanding is the brain creates a synthesis between the two sides. Specialized networks link and the same stimuli is analyzed by many brain regions for specific tasks and results are selected by competition. The synthesis/weighting can be influenced by training, situation, genetics, and brain damage. The brain is pretty programmable.
- Todd Hoff
Science differs from other types of knowledge because of reproducibility. Given the right books, some basic materials from Radio Shack, and enough time, you and I could also directly witness the cosmic background radiation that supports the idea that the Big Bang is the most plausible cause for the creation of the universe.
- Victor Ganata
In the case of many "mystical" states of consciousness, it is difficult to reproduce what was unable to be measured the first time around. What a great concept: reproducibility.
- Sean McBride
Victor -- if I may be purely intuitive for a moment: I sense something huge and vast surrounding the big bang and this particular universe. Sense = feel very deeply, with near certitude. But of course that is not science.
- Sean McBride
Contrary to popular belief, intuition is probably quite widely used by scientists. It's probably how most hypotheses are generated. The entire theory of General Relativity was almost entirely crafted through intuition. But intuition is useless if you can't turn it into an actual experiment that can be readily replicated by other people. Einstein would simply be another eccentric wacko if not for the thousands of other scientists who crafted experiments that found corroborating evidence for his theories.
- Victor Ganata
No, science is not fundamentalist, nor does it exclude any kind of experience or aspect of reality. It also puts a high priority on direct experience and observation. Science focuses on that area of reality that is subject to the scientific method, measurement, testing, reproducibility, etc. It turns out that science has been a highly productive and interesting human endeavor. If there...
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- Sean McBride
You see, guys, I've blocked Gregory, so all I see here is sane thought. It's much more relaxing that way.
- Alexander Carlill
Science doesn't pretend to have much to do with areas of reality and experience that aren't subject to scientific analysis and investigation. But what science does it tends to do very well.
- Sean McBride
Market snapshots: three hours ago and now.
Ken Stewart | ChangeForge, Brandon, YAAK and 12 other people liked this
Says it all: http://www.breitbart.tv/...
- Morgan Warstler
wow - that'll do it....
- Susan Beebe
What is your dream car? - http://geeks.pirillo.com/xn...
Garrett Fitzgerald, Roney Smith, Kol Tregaskes and Chuck Schultz liked this
Red MGA soft top with V8 conversion
- Johnny Worthington
I can't pick just one, but for purposes of discussion, the Porsche 959. http://tinyurl.com/4p4qdy
- Steve Lowe
1965 GTO white convertible, the car I learned to drive on.
- Denise
2009 BMW M3 Sedan
- Daniel Miessler
Aston Martin DB9
- AJ Batac
R34 or R35 GT-R
- Mo Kargas
78 Trans Am would be fun to have: http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classic...
- Yolanda
Veyron
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
One that has a gas tank filled for eternity.
- Mike Kogelman
Bugatti Veyron or Merc Black
- Stephen Pierzchala
1953 Lincoln Cosmopolitan http://tinyurl.com/3nesne
- Joey Gibson
The New Chevy Camaro
- Jaemi Kehoe
One that doesn't need gas.
- Brad Williamson
Either the Bugatti Veyron or an Aston Martin Vanquish
- Kol Tregaskes
'69 Convertible Shelby Mustang, really it's not too much to ask for damn it!
- Damien Franco
Porsche 911, any model or VW Karmann Ghia, early 70's models.
- Carmen
I've been lusting after the Bugatti Veyron since the Top Gear folks demoed its top speed. I'd be afraid to actually drive it on the street, but boy, wouldn't it be cool to have...
- Garrett Fitzgerald
I Love Seattle: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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[Washington Post]: McCain's Focus on Georgia Raises Question of Propriety - http://x.techwheat.com/1QN
Garrett Fitzgerald, Steven Perez, Sean McBride and Dave Winer liked this
"The extent of McCain's involvement in the military conflict in Georgia appears remarkable among presidential candidates, who traditionally have kept some distance from unfolding crises out of deference to whoever is occupying the White House. The episode also follows months of sustained GOP criticism of Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, who was accused of acting too presidential for, among other things, briefly adopting a campaign seal and taking a trip abroad that included a huge rally in Berlin."
- newsjunk.com
Milan is really close to walking. It is fun to watch humans bootstrap.
Garrett Fitzgerald, Jeff P. Henderson, Chris Nixon and 13 other people liked this
Totally agreed
- Internet's Tad
watch you! Ulisse first learned to climb then to walk. Now (18 months) he's doing both extremely well. :)
- Federico Bolsoman
How old is Milan?
- Mike Fruchter
11 months today.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, that's a great milestone Robert. My little girl is 3 months this week. We are still on the "tummy time" phase.
- Mike Fruchter
Congrats!
- Prolific Programmer
lovely. hope you are backupping this little miracle day by day by pictures and movies :)
- Elvira
@Mike. three months, time flies! Is she sleeping through the night yet? http://tinyurl.com/6ysasd
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Awww... I hope you catch his first steps on camera! :)
- Daynah
@Geoff, wow that's a memorable tweet. She is not sleeping through the night consistently yet. She is getting close, she can go about 6 hours without waking up, that's 3-4 nights a week currently.
- Mike Fruchter
precious moments buddy. ;)
- Rodney Rumford
Cool! Holly is just about crawling....doing that one arm, one leg balancing thing that makes me laugh so much.
- Chris Nixon
Once they walk everything's within reach and when they add climbing to walking, it's a bit like an alien invasion.
- Halley Suitt
identi.ca is one place my wife and son don't yet hang out. So it's one place I can escape and be myself. Heheh.
Brian Ries, Dave Martin, John Jarvis and 35 other people liked this
cute LOL
- Mona Nomura
at how many places a person can be there at a same time ? before it was twitter then friendfeed and now identi.ca :)
- Abhishek
Don't worry, they'll catch on.
- Louie
They'll be on there, too, before you know it. ;-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
two-timing bastid ;-)
- jcunwired
Abhishek: you gotta get Twhirl, then you can be in four places at once!
- Robert Scoble
If only you didn't crosspost to FF (which nullifies your assertion). ;)
- l0ckergn0me
l0ckergn0me I wish you would spell your name in some way that's easy to type. But, yeah, you're right. I forgot that my identi.ca messages are brought into FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Except that it posts to FriendFeed - so it's kind of like hanging out someplace with a 2-way mirror ;)
- Lucretia Pruitt
LOL - I was thinking the same thing. My wife knows everything I do because of Twitter. She's going to be clueless if I stop posting there.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Robert, when are you not yourself? heh
- Daynah
Try ping.fm. You can say the same thing at the same time at a lot of places.
- Rutger Blom
never heard of identi.ca, what is it anyway?? but, being on FF and Twitter at same time using one program is more than enough, I guess..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
from twhirl
Sebastiaan, identi.ca is another microblog. http://identi.ca
- Daynah
Yeah, just checked it out, kind of like twitter without the fail whale issues?
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
from twhirl
Yes.. and without the user database too. It seems to be working well, but personally, I only post on Twitter, Friendfeed, and random stuff at Plurk.
- Daynah
I hear ya!! One good thing about having a small userbase :) You can worry less about all of the eyeballs. Unless of course you add the identi.ca account to Frienfeed :))
- Danilo da Silva
LOL
- fbrunel
Talked my wife into not blogging three times so far ... Whew :) "Why does my husband sit in front of that thing for hours every day .... Does yours?"
- Charlie Anzman
:)
- mhmazidi
lol - right http://tinyurl.com/scoble-... ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
@robert - so you aren't being yourself at all other times?
- Jeremy Toeman
I'm debating linking it to FriendFeed actually
- Sarah Perez
Here we go. identi.ca is next.
- Andrew Baron
I can hang out on Jaiku. No one knows me there. :)
- Morton Fox
there goes the (identi.ca) neighborhood [Scobleizer will drive down property values] <g>
- ron k jeffries
Well there goes identi.ca . If Leo Laporte gets on it too, we're going down. *snickers*
- Candace
I like identi.ca because, as a developer, if anything does go wrong, I can at least have some part in fixing it. Twitter is closed doors, all the way.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
this is really funny
- John Tarter
Randy Pausch: 1960–2008 - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
LouCypher, Mike Fruchter, Flemming Funch and 51 other people liked this
I had a professor read the last lecture as part of his retirement; it's definitely a good read. It's so sad to see Pausch go.
- Mark Trapp
It's so Sad! He made our world richer with is intelligence and good humor. I wish all the best to their kids.
- Fernando
I am so happy I got to interview him. One of my favorites!
- Robert Scoble
I just looked back on my blog from meeting him: http://scobleizer.com/2006... -- interesting that he had a big impact on me even back then.
- Robert Scoble
Really very sad. I saw his last lecture and was very impressed. Always hoped, he would get through this...
- Matthias Schwenk
So sad - he gave one of the great speeches of all time and in such an unassuming, selfless way. I'm glad his kids will at least have that to treasure.
- JMaultasch
An inspiration to many. He will be missed
- Tim Finucane
One of the finest. Some people are great a reminding us how to live, mainly by example. He was one of them. His web page doesn't seem to be loading..does anyone see where we can leave thoughts for his family and friends?
- Loren Heiny
A real loss. I never met him (obviously) but I know of him through the eyes of those who did.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
The book was amazing.
- Steve Rubel
Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck. Randy was one of my favorite HCI teachers at CMU, and I'm so glad that his 'Last Lecture' got the world-wide attention that it did. I can't imagine being as brave as him in this place, and he fought off the cancer for about 6 months longer than the 4 months his doctors gave him. Even though I've known this was coming for months it's still really hard.
- Kevin Fox
I keep putting off the book, which is ironically exactly the opposite of what I should be doing: moving forward and living life instead of treading water and letting life happen. Peace to you, Randy.
- Kevin C. Tofel
I'm very sad but will always be inspired by the way he spent his last several months.
- Dimitrios Diamantaras
I was a huge fan of Randy's; his work will live on far longer than this in the lives of those he influenced.
- Aaron Krug
i love the "bedside conversion" line...
- Don Martelli
from twhirl
Inspirational. Will be watching his video many times throughout my life. Brave, wise man...
- Hao Chen
What better way to go than knowing that you made every day count and that you touched the lives of so many people around the world! Even though his departure is a huge loss, we are blessed with the inspiration he leaves us with!
- Gabriel Biguria
I'm going to order the book, finally.
- Roberto Bonini
He understood life and therefore death. He was attached to what was important in life, not to life itself. He was proof of the fact that scientists and engineers are the most spiritual of people. My thoughts are with his family - I hope they know how many are thinking of them today.
- Kamath (नमः)
Wow what a picture. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Nikpay, Sean Alexander, Frank Paynter and 87 other people liked this
if Hitler could only see "his people" now
- Ranjit Mathoda
I super-like this. It's quite amazing to see that large mass of people in front of Barack Obama.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Reuters is reporting 200k came to the speech.
- Rex Hammock
from twhirl
@Ranjit, sorry, but that was a rather stupid comment, +1 to what Michael said
- Gina Häußge
if @Ranjit's point is that it's great to see how far humankind has come in terms of racial/ethnic equality, then I agree. But regardless, kind of an insensitive way to put it.
- graham mudd
Amazing!
- Bill Sodeman
I don't care what anyone says. Both McCain and Bush have to be wicked envious.
- AJ Kohn
Have you seen the original size? Almost everyone has a camera! Whoa!
- AJ Batac
Hitler identified with the Germanic people, Stalin identified with the Russian people. to me all such definitions are kind of stupid, what with us being 5% removed from the chimpanzee. but such people have always tried to establish boundaries and a monolithic identity within such boundaries. a picture/event like this puts a lie to such separations. i wish people, like Hitler, could see how far the future is from the "truth" they saw
- Ranjit Mathoda
graham, i don't think people have come that far in terms of racial/ethnic equality if they are still defining separate races/ethnic groups. i do think we are happy being mostly nicer to people of "other" groups, but that's not quite the same. check out an online dating site and see how many people prefer to date people of a particular group.
- Ranjit Mathoda
Throughout the speech there are jabs at the Germans. I'm surprised they were still clapping when he mentioned "Never Again!".... in Darfur.
- Sam Pullara
Amazing. looking at it in larger view, and THEN in original view. The reduced views don't cut it at all.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan is right. Amazing photo and love all the digital cameras.
- Robert Scoble
great photo, and EVERYONE was taking a picture of Obama.
- Baard @ Pixum
I see a guy holding out a laptop lol
- ◄ani625Ξ
The laptop guy is amazing! Great picture. Funny to see most people looking at the screens of their camera's and not straight at the stage
- Peter van Teeseling
Laptop guy did it for me too
- Toby Graham
And then 100000 + people uploaded the same picture from their point of view to Flickr. It would be interesting to compare them all.
- DivemasterDoug
Obama campaigning in the 58th state. I think that he forgot that we live...over here.
- Kreg Steppe
from twhirl
Great photo
- Jamie
it would be really cool if those 100000 + people uploaded their photos into Photosynth :)
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
I would like to think that these politicians feel humble when they stand before a sea of humanity. I hope they remember that they are supposed to be working for our greater good. I can't imagine standing where he's standing.
- Yolanda
Absolutely! A Photosynth database of that event would be awesome!
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
@Shawn: If all of us Americans had speechwriters like Obama, we could make it look like we were as passionate about our global image as he does ;-)
- Kirk Kittell
@Rex Hammock: Yeppers, i was there and the officials said, that about 250.000 people were there. It was really a very awesome event, hey - 250.000 people came to the Berliner Siegessäule and Barack Obama isn't even yet the next president :-). Don't know what happens after the elections ;-)
- Ronald
Man, the brush-lipped Fuhrer is finally gone...this is a sign.
- Kamath (नमः)
It's just so sad. People really want to believe. But Politics is just a dirty game. There's probably no genuine saviour out there.
- john conroy
It was more like people were awaiting a 'rock star' ;-)
- Ronald
Barack Obama on FriendFeed? Don't believe it. I met the guy who set up the account and it actually is done by a Republican lobbiest. He said he set it up to keep track of Obama and also to keep Obama's staff from using the account. I wish there were a way to authenticate that people are who they see
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Liked 'cuz I think this is hilarious. That lobbyist gets the Good Job Badge of the Day.
- Craig Eddy
just like the folks who grabbed "robertscoble" on plurk. That seems like identity theft to me, it's one thing to have the same name but it's another to imply you are a another person.
- Doug Brooks
Yet another proof of the classic comic: "On the internet, no one knows you're a dog."
- Craig Eddy
It was Patrick Ruffini. http://friendfeed.com/patrick...
- Louis Gray
Was? Patrick ain't dead yet.
- Andrew Feinberg
Louis knows everyone. Yeah, it is Patrick.
- Robert Scoble
Heh, you can tell he's committed to integrity, too: "McCain Nearly Outraises Obama in May" So you mean, he didn't. Friendfeed gave back the Engadget account to Ryan Block when he requested it: who do you have to talk to at the Obama campaign for them to make the same request?
- Mark Trapp
brand squatting is a rampant problem. who should get to create the salesforce.com account on any service? i think this needs to be tied to domain ownership, possibly via OpenID
- Kingsley Joseph
from twhirl
Ahhh. That probably explains some of the items fed to the Obama-2008 room. http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Seidman
O so you mean the man running one of two active campaigns in the US doesnt actually use FF? Well I never...
- Anthony
Mark I am talking with someone from the Obama campaign on Thursday. I will ask.
- Robert Scoble
plurk all over again... lame
- Susan Beebe
Excellent, Robert. Now, I wonder who's squatting http://friendfeed.com/johnmcc... ...
- Mark Trapp
classic. let's see how many comment this gets :)
- Tim Hoeck
So is this like *real* politics where there's a real dude and a fake dude all with the same name?
- Susan Beebe
I thought I read somewhere that Ruffini had the McCain FriendFeed account. Why haven't Obama's people complained? Are they gunshy after the MySpace account incident? Or is it unimportant? Same question to McCain, if Ruffini controls that too.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
what a fucking loser
- Ryan
unless they use OfficialBarackObama. but i figure knowing this info couldn't they sue?
-
Pretty simple solution. Obama campaign creates a FFtogo account. Posts it on their site. The unofficial one gets ignored or blocked.
- Bill Bittner
from fftogo
By the way, John McCain is also Patrick Ruffini. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Louis Gray
This name squatting across socnets is silly. Fork over your DNA @scobleizer and only then shall you get that coveted @scobelizer moniker across socnets. Bow down to thy namesquatters.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I believe it. Their Internet strategy was beyond awesome.
- Charlie Anzman
Louis, what you don't know is that Patrick is merely a vessel in which McCain will enter when his body gives out. Sort of like Being John Malkovich, except Patrick is more interesting.
- Andrew Feinberg
This is hilarious. But on looking at the stuff in the channel it is clear that he is promoting Obama. Why is he doing that.... baiting the folks to believe that this is the real official channel?
- Vic Podcaster
Ruffini is a Republican, but he's very interested in the process, campaiging itself as well as social media. Not everyone is a Republican is evil, surprise surprise.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Sneaky. All is fair in love and politics.
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
Lay off Patrick. He's a smart guy who happens to be on one side of the line. Every time I read his stuff or talk to him I learn something new. I can't say that for a great many Dems, sadly.
- Andrew Feinberg
Dirty tricks in politics. I think Jefferson made them up.
- Francine Hardaway
Just like Premier Wen on Facebook
- Jia Liu
He is not a lobbyist he is an ecampaign strategist and blogger - identifying ourselves as Republicans (or worse Republican campaign operatives) on FriendFeed and Twitter is bad enough we don't need to be labeled as lobbyists as well. Next thing you know we are going to be "Republican lobbyist lawyers who own used car lots"
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco you forgot the words 'extreme' and 'fundamentalist' :)
- Erin @queenofspain
You guys don't see any problem with him purporting to be someone he's not?
- Mark Trapp
@erin get back in your fort! I was pretty certain combining "Republican" "Extreme" and "Fundamentalist" would have been seen as unnecessarily repetitive in FriendFeed ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Wow, everyone is ready to rip this guy even though he hasn't done anything malicious with the accounts. Has the Obama or McCain camps even asked him to give up the accounts?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
By signing up an account name that is so clearly intended to be someone else, and not disclosing that is really playing on people's trust. If it was used to seed malicious information, surely thats libelous.
- Dom Barnes
Yikes!
- Mike Reynolds
i'm sure if the obama campaign approached friendfeed, they could get conrtol of the account. this is a non-issue
- @baratunde
I Actaully befriend da obama handle , thinking it was a campaign person from Obama's camp...after all their Twitter handle seemed genuine and worked well. So what is FF's policy for such malicious users ?? Are they going to block account and freeze it or what ? and this is not just about having a prez handle and workin it. rather a community /social question.. we all know the rift on the Loren/Shel issue, but how do we & FF Mod's negate such trolls in this space ?
- Peter Dawson
As long as there is no (realistic, scalable) way to check people's identities that works for everybody (so no credit card) and is free (or companies won't implement it), all this talk is useless.
- sebmos
@Peter Dawson - Beside being an account that wasn't created by Obama's campaign, this account didn't do anything wrong. It's definitely not a "troll", as it didn't comment useless stuff, etc. I'm having a difficult time seeing the problem with THIS account.
- sebmos
The account does not claim to be Obama, and clearly is not slandering Obama. Further, even if it WAS on Obama's behalf it wouldn't "be" him anyway. As for the whole squatting hew and cry, think of the nightmare. How popular would someone have to be before they could demand the special status of "he who gets to use one name everywhere"? Does Scoble get special treatment but a smaller person is just screwed? First come, first served is fine. In cases of slander or fraud there are already laws.
- Soulhuntre
"He said he set it up to keep track of Obama and also to keep Obama's staff from using the account" - and you replied.....
- Rashunda Tramble
The FriendFeed office
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Amazing how much we have grown...
- Bret Taylor
from email
How can you guys sit facing each other like that? I'd go nuts. Or at least get some sort of Nerf weapon.
- Josh
I think Kevin has the best posture
- Casey Muller
Great, how many people are you at the moment?
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
I swear the guy in the foreground isn't wearing pants. Cool office rules.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Paul rarely wears clothes.
- Bret Taylor
The Secret ----> http://friendfeed.com/e... : )
- Erhan Erdogan
This also looks like a "Battleship" tournament... Kevin, in fact, appears to be making the "you sank my battleship!" gesture.
- Chris Reed
Great to see a company firing on all cylinders
- Mike Doeff
Josh: the key is extremely large screens so you can't actually see the person in front of you.
- Bret Taylor
Man, do people get sent to sit by the bathroom and public writeboard as punishment?
- Stepan Mazurov
I brought a t-shirt to change into after biking to work, but I didn't bother. I might have made a different choice if I'd known it would be blogged... :-)
- Kevin Fox
@Kevin: You match the rug and lamp so it's working. :)
- Tsega Dinka
Awesome window into FF Bret. Really like the transparency and willingness to speak openly with the community and those who are critical of FF. Enjoyed that Qik inteview by what's his name...
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wow you guys have really grown and your office looks more colorful than the "garden variety" Google office space!
- Bindu Reddy
Keep up the good work. You'll all have corner offices soon :)
- Andrew Smith
i hope one of those people is working on the "page 11" bug!
- Ňicķ
I'm with Josh - I'd probably go crazy, no matter how large the screen.
- Ontario Emperor
Wait, there's somebody on the other side of my monitor?
- Casey Muller
im all up in paul's code now! and that guy in the orange really sits up straight
- Allen Stern
I want to go and meet Bret, Paul, Dave, and the gang!!
- Susan Beebe
I see nobody will finish off that Old Time Candy. As your mothers likely told you, you can't have more until you finish what you already have!
- Louis Gray
Louis: we ate all of our favorites. Apparently no one wants to eat the wax lips. That was the best gift we have ever gotten, by the way. You rock, Louis.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, but shouldn't the interns _have_ to wear the wax lips as some form of initiation?
- Louis Gray
So that's where all my attention went! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I want FF schwag! :)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from twhirl
Looks Cool! Good working environment. BTW, the guy on the left with the white jacket in the back looks like Sayid from Lost :-)
- Guido Rossi
wow, looks much better than the IT cubicle hell that I work in!
- jerry
It looks so different from when I visited two months ago!
- Lyndsey McGrath
can i work there :)
- Jay Martinez
from twhirl
I like this place
- accesine
Weird! I don't see the picture on freidnfeed.com - but in Alert Thingy it works!!!
- w0nk0
"Paul's code?" I thought that was a kernel panic. (squints at picture)
- Karim
..and now, 10 minutes later, I see it. Flock ff3 bug maybe?
- w0nk0
hah! looks like you guys are gonna need more space soon :-)
- tracy apps
from twhirl
The code isn't a kernel panic. You can see the blue bar at the top showing it's a window. Looks like a cool place to work.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I wish my office looked more like that instead of a cubical farm
- Josh Smith
I forgot the closing </joke> tag on my "kernel panic" crack. Though, of course, if it is a kernel panic, I spotted it first. lol
- Karim
The last time my office looked like this was when I was in gradudate school.
- Khürt Williams
from twhirl
Did they buy that new fan to deal with his bare feet?
- Victor Ryden
从这个角度看，似乎有些拥挤了
- Liang ✈
Bret, it was really great to meet you today and do the panel together!
- David Sifry
from twhirl
looks like the find I was hoping for-mahalo!
- Crystal Clear
from Alert Thingy
look like comfy chairs
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
的确是有些挤，正前方那个穿橙色的是不是Kevin？
- xiaoxiao
It looks neat and comfortable :)
- Herman
I swear, contrary to appearances, I am not an obese hunchback.
- Jim Norris
More people since spring Scoble's interview :)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Congrats on the growth of the team
- David Vasileff
Wow! Cool.. You guys keep your desks pretty clean!!
- Jigar Mehta
Hi guys! *waves*
- Yolanda
I would love this work environment - I hate the isolated office or cube - that's what I get from being a high extrovert... lol
- Tony
wow..where are here?
- Jaycai
Very cool...
- Mitchell Tsai
Father Scoble is worshiped @ FF... OMG that's awesome! how funny!
- Susan Beebe
funny to see how people sit
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Very cool,you guys certainly blow our mind
- Steve Chou
the two guys closest to the washrooms , must be junior team members ..
- johnpiercy
Info on our Washington DC trip and party: http://scobleizer.com/2008... -- scheduled to interview Nancy Pelosi, speaker of house. Wow.
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What's the geek angle?
- Dennis Howlett
from twhirl
I dare you to bring up Kucinich's articles of impeachment and why she's ignoring them :)
- Doug Brooks
Robert, what are you going to talk about in your interview?
- Susan Beebe
Yeah, basically, open up with "Why are you ignoring Kucinich's articles of impeachment" followed up by "What happened to listening to your consitituents, or are PACs now considered the true "constituents".
- Daniel Spisak
from twhirl
Susan: I'm still doing research, but the themes are going to be what I laid out in my post. I'm interested in learning about what they are going to do that will affect the technology industries. Daniel: I probably won't ask about that, sorry. Does that have anything to do with technology?
- Robert Scoble
rambn: I just bought a new suit. I'll definitely have suit and tie on.
- Robert Scoble
have you guys reached out to any of the associations like http://www.siia.net/govt/
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Congrats Robert, looks fascinating. I look forward to what will undoubtedly be fascinating results, and I hope you get the opportunity to educate them on net neutrality - I'm still convinced that most of Washington hasn't got a clue. Safe travels.
- jcunwired
Marco: not sure. Andrew knows a lot of people in the Capitol and he has a whole agenda for us that's quite good. I'll try to get him to answer here.
- Robert Scoble
great - would be interested to see
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I wasn't the only one who helped with this, but it should be interesting.
- Andrew Feinberg
Andrew: I'd like to credit everyone. Can you get me a list?
- Robert Scoble
schedule slammed full?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Nancy Pelosi has the most secure job in the U.S. house of reps. SF would *never* elect a Republican -- ensuring whatever incumbent has that seat can obtain the Speaker of the House position simply with longevity if they start young enough. Arguably the second most powerful position in US politics and third in line to be President. Gavin Newsom will have the seat after she's done with it.
- Thomas Hawk
I love all questions to do with open government and getting more public information online in a raw format. And the more specific the better.
- Stefan Hayden
Marco: there's a few spots here and there, but unless it's Obama or President Bush or someone really interesting I think we'll keep it full at this time. Gotta have some decompression time in the schedule too or else we'll go nuts.
- Robert Scoble
Can't wait for the movie: "Mr. Scoble goes to Washington." Who will play you?
- shelisrael1
Scoble: Net Neutrality would be a poignant issue to get her exact current thoughts on - is this still a priority for her? She has a good record of standing up on the "free and open" side of this argument. http://www.technorati.com/videos... http://threeminds.organic.com/2007...
- Matt Bidinger
I think Mehlman would be quite interesting and informative for you guys
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
gregory: if you can't figure that answer out on your own, you shouldn't ask the question. I'm there to hear about tech and business issues and will stay focused. She gets asked rude questions all the time and I'm sure if I tried to ask one like that she'd have a pat answer down and the interview wouldn't get done what I need it to get done, which is stay focused on the things they are doing that would affect tech workers and businesses and customers.
- Robert Scoble
Dennis is right "what's the geek angle?" That's why I'm going.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: tried to comment on your blog but for some reason it doens`t like me (again). Anyway subjects for discussion in my mind should include DMCA, Net Neutrality, Patent Reform
- Brian Sullivan
from my tweet: dont forget to ask her about copyright reform, PRO/IP act, etc! http://is.gd/Aun
- Jeremy Toeman
Brian: my spam filter caught you. And people wonder why I love FriendFeed so much! No spam and no spam filters needed.
- Robert Scoble
You have to ask her what her response is to the people who ask what is impeachable if Bush isn't.
- Garrett Fitzgerald
Ask her what her Nanotechnology strategy is. How can the government possibly hope to keep up with ever accelerating technology? What's the plan to keep the US at the forefront of technological innovation and not pass the torch to China? How will congress help get more kids, especially girls, interested in science and engineering? Will an Obama/Pelosi government restore science as a priority for the US?
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Wow, indeed!
- Eric Hamilton
Tad: excellent questions. However, if she's just going to keep on rolling over for the Chief Executive, what's the point? Bitter? Me? Nah.
- Garrett Fitzgerald
its not the Chief Exec she is rolling over for - not a supporter but she is being very smart
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
6 Alternatives To Flickr Now Yahoo Is In Full Control - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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stop scaring me!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
If I do switch, it will probably be to Zoomr or Picasa Web Albums.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
I just paid my 1 year subscription...so I'm going to wait so see how things unfold (if anything)
- Justin Korn
Believe it or not Duncan there are some people out there who don't just use Yahoo because of Flickr. I know, it's hard to believe.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, what else do you use?
- McFrugal
Mike, what should I be looking at?
- Duncan Riley
I know Flickr is popular but I've always found Picasa Web Albums to get the job done simple and easily. And with my parents and sisters on it, its a no-brainer.
- Zach Landes
Big opportunity for Zooomr if they are ready for it. Just got the invite for Photrade but have yet to go check it out yet. Photrade has the commerce element to it too. Flickr has always been the social aspect for me though; Smugmug has been my serious/commerce photo resource.
- Jeremy Hall
@Mike Doeff: Yeah, I use del.icio.us AND Flickr. ;)
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
Jeremy, I wanted to be warmer about Zooomr but I'm not sure what's going on there. The front page is a complete mess, and it seems to have disappeared from the radar a bit, although their traffic seems to be holding.
- Duncan Riley
@Jeremy I really don't see how this is a big opportunity. I am sure the VAST majority of users have never heard of these founders, or the fact that they are leaving Flickr. When/If Flickr starts heading in the wrong direction, then there will be new opportunities for other services to grab market share.
- Zach Landes
@Duncan I agree. I was obviously curious when Thomas made an seemingly obvious return to Flickr with most of his photos, particularly those hosted on his blog. When the primary evangelist for the site is suddenly much more quiet about it, makes you wonder. Any reasons you care to share TH (or that I missed)?
- Jeremy Hall
@Zach Perhaps a bit as you say, I view it as an indicator of the potential for an opportunity. Just as with any program that becomes huge, someone eventually comes along that just does it better or in a way. Flickr does a lot of things great, but they have also moved slowly on what many have pointed out as opportunities to evolve in features that are a natural improvement to what is already there. The current outflow of leadership typically leads to stagnation or negative change.
- Jeremy Hall
You notice that SmugMug is offering 50% off your first year if you come from Flickr? Puts it smack dab within Flickr's price point and a wee cheaper. Yahoo watch it.
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
the list fails to make mention of fileden... which while the interface is horrible.... allows you to post images without censorship. A must have to avoid the eMOMs (MailOurMilitary), Tiper Gores, Volvo Soccer Moms, and other moralists ilk. Censorship with photo sharing is a huge issue. Please address it to make your story truly relevant
- Noah David Simon
Zooomr never got funding and will never be able to deal with huge growth unless it does get funding.
- Robert Scoble
Smugmug has the backbone and expertise to be much bigger in this market, but they have specialized in providing the features and flexibility to paying members that are more serious about managing their own "sandbox." I love Smugmug, but the social aspect has always been more difficult for me to get involved with over there vs flickr. I wonder how this could be improved.
- Jeremy Hall
why on earth would i leave flickr just because the founders quit? the site works, hasn't changed from the value proposition i as a user signed up to. i'm perfectly happy paying for my pro account until they actually reduce my feature set, but could care less who is 'in control'. who knows, maybe the new team will actually improve the site?
- Jeremy Toeman
Jumping the gun is an understatement here.
- Bwana ☠
I just renewed my Flickr Pro account. I'm too busy to worry about some future hypothetical calamity. I'll let y'all worry about it, figure out what to do, and then in a few years if disaster strikes, I can move then.
- Amit Patel
Flickr is a great site, and I'm sure that Stewart & Co. will be missed. RE: Zooomr, we're stronger than ever. Remember, Zooomr is free UNLIMITED photosharing. No limits. We've recently built-up a team in Japan and growing like crazy because Flickr cannot legally enter Japan at all. :) Article: http://jp.blognation.com/2007...
- Kristopher Tate
Do any alternatives have a way to migrate from Flickr? That would be a killer feature.
- Mark Trapp
Also, regarding our front page. It's shit, and we know it. The Japanese version is much better and we're going to update the english-front page soon. Japanese Zooomr Home: http://jp.zooomr.com/
- Kristopher Tate
Mark, you can migrate using an App called Migratr: http://www.callingshotgun.net/about...
- Kristopher Tate
Kristopher, very nifty, thanks. Maybe I'll look into moving off of flickr to something more 2.0er.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, sure -- If you're ever feeling like going Unlimited, give Zooomr a shot: http://www.zooomr.com/signup/
- Kristopher Tate
how many products are forever managed by their original founders? everybody needs to calm down
- @baratunde
Jeremy, Bwana - I totally agree that people are jumping the gun here. No disrespect to Stuart and Caterina who built a great service but who cares if they're leaving. This service had been under Yahoo management for a long time now. The founders gave up control of Flickr the day they sold it.
- Mike Doeff
All things considered, it is a good idea to just to check out other options. SmugMug looks cool. I've uploaded some of my stuff http://trishussey.smugmug.com/gallery... . Will I switch from Flickr? Not right away. Will I will ready to if needed? Sure.
- Tris Hussey
Deja Vu - Yahoo buys Flickr. Everybody panics, exports their pictures. We see how that turned out.
- Bwana ☠
I use both Flickr and Smugmug. I love Smugmug's features, but Flickr is still where the community is. I've integrated Smugmug into my site - http://leolaporte.smugmug.com - that's one of its nicest features. Great support, too.
- Leo Laporte
Seems to me that SmugMug is best if you are sharing with family and close friends and Flickr makes it easier to share across a wider community. Both sites can co-exist and be very successful. Why do we always need to declare one winner in every cateogory? And I'll say it again. Base your decision on your requirements for photo sharing, the features of the site, and the performance/reliability. Don't base it on the names of the people who are running the site.
- Mike Doeff
Good list. I think Ipernity should be on there too. It's a strong alternative.
- Chris Nixon
Duncan - Great post! I would also recommend (because I work there) photrade.com. We let users share protect and make money from their photos. (you actually wrote about our adnetwork back on Techcrunch).
- Krista Neher
I have to agree with Mike Doeff. Despite having “photo hosting” in common, Flickr is a very different product from SmugMug. My friends & family aren't even viewing my Flickr photos; I use Flickr for the wider community, and other approaches for friends & family.
- Amit Patel
check ipernity.com also.
- kosmar
@Scobleizer quality time with kids is the best party there is.
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Yup, partying with the kids is awesome, and I have you all to party with too!
- Robert Scoble
And many of us are just like kids. I have a knack for getting kids to laugh, my wife says it's because I still act like a 7 year old.
- Kevin Shannon
The Religious Right Is Going To Boycott Google In 3…2…1… - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Dimitar Vesselinov, Daniel Dulitz, Dewald Pretorius and 20 other people liked this
Awesome - anything that leaves luddites further behind is fine with me.
- Internet's Tad
i'm not part of the religious right and i think google doing this is stupid. there are plenty of ppl who don't support the queer lifestyle who aren't religious zealots. it's a flawed assumption to assume everyone who's "normal" supports queers. what's abnormal here is two men not realizing that the sperm in their bodies corresponds with eggs and not colorectal walls.
- Brooks Bayne
I don't understand the dust up. What religious zealots will search for anything related to the "gay" word - ie they'll never have to see the rainbow flag unless they choose to. Do we even know if this is permanent? Couldn't it just be a temporary design element, much like the redesigned Google logos for holidays?
- Jennifer Van Grove
from twhirl
It's all part of the Gay Agenda Wolfie baby. First marriage, then Google, and next they'll be recruiting in your neighborhood.
- Internet's Tad
Jennifer, just the fact that Google tolerates or in any way endorses, however slight, the evil Gay Lifestyle is enough to set off some folks regardless of whether it affects them or not.
- Internet's Tad
it's just secular progressives running amok in america...
- Brooks Bayne
Jennifer: the moment Bill O'Reilly gets wind of this, most republicants will come to Google just to try it out. It's my guess that Wolfsbayne has already tipped him off.
- jcunwired
or anyone who's not a republican that doesn't agree with the queer agenda. that's 70% of america according to most any recent poll.
- Brooks Bayne
Jennifer, Tad has hit it on the head, it doesn't matter if they never see this themselves, the moment it hits the right wing blogs, then eventually O'Reilly, instant zealot storm
- Duncan Riley
Hehe - I love it when people think there's an actual "queer agenda!" I think it's something like the "colored agenda" and the "women's agenda" before it.
- Internet's Tad
Ok, I'll bite. There really is a 'queer agenda'?
- jcunwired
The "queer agenda"? Seriously?! I am so glad to finally have a chance to use the block user feature that FF just released. Ahhh, that's better.
- Christopher Sacca
this is not a Republican vs Democrat debate. John McCain is not against gays and neither am I. Gay marriage is not supported by Obama! whip up the bullshit why don't you?
- Noah David Simon
Sacca, Sprague, the moment I saw the comments from Wolfsbayne I did the same thing to him. Bless FF for introducing a block feature, there's no place in my FF stream for hate speech.
- Duncan Riley
Blocked! I love block.
- Robert Scoble
Awww, next thing you know Wolfie will be dinging us for not tolerating his intolerance!
- Internet's Tad
I get that some might not like homosexuality but how does it effect YOU? Get your nose out of other people's business. This logic leads down to no relationships between folks who are sterile? And I assume this means sperm must ALWAYS be aimed for the egg? *sigh*
- AJ Kohn
Hey, my first block :)
- Michael C. Harris
Dang, I forgot about the block feature. I love you guys! tee hee
- jcunwired
Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. When a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.
- Internet's Tad
Hey, I don't see Wolfbayne's comments anymore... what happened? Oh, that's right - he was BLOCKED. I have not patience for intolerance or bigotry.
- Vince DeGeorge
*Poof* Blocking is good.
- John Frost
@Noah: You are right. This isn't about being anti-gay. It's about being pro-rainbows. Why so sensitive?
- Andrew
@AJ Exactly! And the only reason anyone who disapproves can gives is religion. Please. I need a much more compelling reason that that.
- Michelle Martinez
I'm not surprised Google did that. I imagine I'll be getting blocked in the coming days. Oh well.
- Bwana ☠
@Michelle: Yup. Not nearly a compelling enough reason. This religious bigotry has gone on forever though. Best shown in Swift's 1726 Gulliver's Travels where they go to war over how to crack and egg. Big Endians vs. Small Endians.
- AJ Kohn
I don't agree with his comments - but I'm also uncomfortable with why everyone is suddenly so self-righteous about blocking someone.
- Victor Ryden
Victor: this is exactly what block is made for: to get people out of your living room who just don't belong there. If you want him in YOUR living room you can keep him. Me? I choose not to let bigots and jerks into my living room and I'd rather not have them as readers, either.
- Robert Scoble
I haven't blocked anyone. If we shut ourselves off from any other viewpoints then our own view can get awful narrow. "What the thinker thinks, the prover proves." While what Wolfsbayne said was tasteless and kind of dumb, it could have been an awful lot worse. I want my memes to be constantly challenged. But yeah, I'll block someone who's extremely abusive or annoying - I've just been lucky enough not to run into any on FF.
- Internet's Tad
Tad: I see enough bigotry and idiocy in society. I don't need to see it on my screen.
- Robert Scoble
I didn't mean to insult you - our standards are just a bit different. Besides you sift through enough noise that your tolerance HAS to be a lot lower.
- Internet's Tad
Victor, personally I found his hate speech deeply offensive, and he crossed the line for me, as it did for others. It is only the third or 4th time I've used block if it's any help, and the other two times were against FFloggers (FF spammers). as Robert notes, that's what its there for.
- Duncan Riley
Seeing the same for lesbian (in aus)
- Tai
Robert - I don't have a problem with blocking someone. It was the bragging attitude of, I don't like it so I will not listen to it. In another post you mention Rush Limbaugh, obviously you haven't "blocked" him, you just realize where he's coming from and take it into account.
- Victor Ryden
Wolfie, you're absolutely right that it's not just religious people who are against the queer lifestyle. Bigots and morons oppose it too.
- Mitch Wagner
Let's re-focus the argument, part of the article said "Google is making overtly political statements in its key search area, a stand that for Google is actually unprecedented as far as I can recall." What if a search for Obama gave only positive results with a special banner. Would that be OK?
- Victor Ryden
Just as long as Google shows a pic of Bush's famous middle-finger pic from the videoframe when you look up anything relating to the GOP
- Glenn Batuyong
A supposedly neutral search engine showing obvious bias is wrong, and I'd feel the same if Google displayed little crucifixes all over the page when I searched on Jesus, or a red-white-and-blue banner when I search on "United States". But it's their search page so they can do what they want with it. Just as I can choose not to use it, which I should be able to do without being called "intolerant"
- Craig Eddy
Victor, the search results from Google don't look all that different from the search results by Microsoft. Unless you want to make the claim that Google and Microsoft are allied in an infernal scheme to forward the "gay agenda," I think you're going to have to drop the "only positive results" line.
- David Worrell
David: I think Victor's point was, IF Google were to decide to only show "positive" results for searches on "Obama", how much could one trust their results on any topic without knowing if there was a search engine bias for/against that topic?
- Craig Eddy
If Google was following a "Queer Agenda" then they would also have the rainbow stripes when you search for 'queer', but the stripes only show when you search for 'gay', 'lesbian', bisexual' and 'transgender'. Therefore it would be safe to say that the Gay Mafia has taken over Google not the Queer Agenda. :)
- Riayn
David - I was just trying to bring the discussion back to treating one search term different from another, it would seem to show at least favoritism, even if the search results are the same. Suppose an Obama search showed a Lapel Flag Pin and one for McCain did not. How about that?
- Victor Ryden
Craig: if that were the case, I'd be very interested in learning more about it. All that seems to be happening here, though, is that Google showing support for a subset of humanity that's been treated poorly for a very long time. And they're doing it in a way that shouldn't really bother anyone (other than people that make a habit of searching for "the gay"). In the absence of any real evidence of bias, I personally couldn't justify switching search engines based on something as trivial as this.
- David Worrell
Congratulations, Victor - you succeeded in coming up with an example even more trivial than this rainbow banner.
- David Worrell
David - I wanted to make a point about the discussion and I chose my example carefully, as "the Rainbow" and "Flag Lapels" are both touchstones to a lot of people. I agree with Terra310, that if you start to doubt Google's impartiality a LOT a problems arise.
- Victor Ryden
Society as a whole is doing a pretty damn good job of marginalising gay people like me. Google putting up some rainbow stripes honestly does not increase this feeling of marginalisation. Seeing the majority of the comments in this post certainly does. Do you all get so upset when Google has a different logo for Black History Month or Martin Luther King's Anniversary? Or is only homophobia cool these days?
- Riayn
Riayn - It's more an issue of trust when you do a search. If Google had done a special Logo on it's initial search page to recognize California's decision, that would be something else. I'm not saying people wouldn't argue about it, they would. However, a lot of us feel that the search is the like Caesar's wife, beyond reproach.
- Victor Ryden
@Riayn, the rainbow stripes don't bother me, nor do different logos for other holidays. I do wonder why Google consistently ignores Memorial Day.
- Larry Huffman
fuck 'em. no seriously, fuck these people who want to keep this country in a time warp. people give them too much credit.
- Cee Bee
The comparison between Obama vs. McCain is false. Reasonable people can disagree over which of them to vote for - or whether to vote for either of them. However, all decent people ought to support gay marriage.
- Mitch Wagner
Google did not filter search results - they just put a little rainbow flag next to them.
- Mitch Wagner
Also, I don't know what this "queer agenda" is, but I'm sure it involves taffeta.
- Mitch Wagner
Marriage is more complicated then UR right2use a public park. Marriage is designed4creating relationships 4human reproduction(which*IS*important).When U demand gay marriage UR asking 4the same benefits as people who need government assistance because they have no choice over their functions(in the same respect U can't help being gay) Children R expensive. Please take sympathy on straight people. I don't hate U! Obama doesn't support GAY MARRIAGE!
- Noah David Simon
Robert has blocked me so he cannot read this but please someone explain to him that his "living room" metaphor is lame! You do not go to a public park set up your couch and chairs inviting people for a discussion and once you disagree you ask your bodyguards to through them out of the park! "living room' metaphor works on a blog or a private room, not in a public forum! And for someone like Robert to brag about his blocking is beneath him! I hope he will look at his behavior introspectively!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
FriendFeed doesn't seem to work very well for timeline-based discussion. It orders it by latest comment/like so you don't get the latest 1st
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I noticed that as well, and there is not an option to change the view. =(
- John Tyra
perhaps plurk would be better for this?!
- acedanger
But it does work well for identifying hot topics. One option is to attach comments to an item and use the comments as a timeline.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Yah, we should fix this, especially for events like this.
- Bret Taylor
Plurk is frustrating if you are following more than a few dozen ppl.
- Rafe Needleman
Bret, when is FF getting Plurk support?
- Rafe Needleman
Bret, how would you "fix"?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Offer the ability to sort things by date published I think is the simplest way.
- Bret Taylor
Perhaps a room based setting that admins can set; "do not bump entries"
- Benjamin Golub
i actually like this feature because the interesting stuff bubbles to the top.
- Seth Gottlieb
from twhirl
God I love Web 2.0! Market research at its best!
- Stanton Champion
Simple is good.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I actually had success just following the main "Friends" feed because you catch all the new posts there, and it's close to a "newest first" at least. I still don't get Plurk.
- Jesse Stay
@susanreynolds I like my black DELL Tablet PC. It gets better as time goes by, too. Why? Stickers!
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My Dell D800 coming to 3 years life, should I get a Dell XPS or is the tablet that good. I got HP one and hated the tablet since
- Rif Kiamil
Trying to get the corporate world stickering... http://buildcontext.com/blog... getting some interesting looks in meetings!
- Ben Hedrington
Its a HP Compaq Tablet from 2004 and its was just always tooo slow, but I have not touched it since 2004. I still have to much dev in me to take off all my new toys like coldfusion 8 and Google AppEngine.. but saying that I travel way to much and need somthing small and light
- Rif Kiamil
i loooooove my fujitsu u810 tablet pc
- Nathan Eckenrode
@Thomas Amen! I would never own a Dell, other than their monitors. I love my HP, I wouldn't trade any of my HP stuff for the world.
- Aaron Myers
My HP tablet has a coating of stickers - it's an ever-changing skin :-)
- Simon Bisson
from Alert Thingy
But when the tablet gets hot, dont the stickers start to melt?
- Rif Kiamil
I have an HP Pavilion tx2000z with 4 GB RAM. However, I intend to replace Vista Home Premium with a Vista Business version. Any recommendations?
- Thomas Ho
@Rif Kiamil - HP design their laptops to be skinned - I find the 2710P a remarkably cool runner compared to most laptops I've used in the past.
- Simon Bisson
from Alert Thingy
@Simon what does it mean to be "skinned" ?
- Thomas Ho
What is your opinion on the infamous Bush and Bin Laden Friend Feed picture?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Twitter is down, so... I'm posting an original message to FriendFeed for the first time. I hope Scoble is happy. - http://chris.pirillo.com/live/
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Welcome to the conversation Chris!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's about time.
- Akiva Moskovitz
it is addictive chris - watch out ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Welcome to January 2008! How was 2007?
- Internet's Tad
Welcome to FriendFeed Chris. It might be social overload, but it sure as hell works correctly... so far.
- James Mowery
Hope the 'rents are doing better Chris.
- Sean Alexander
Wow, pirillo late to something tech. Fail :) haha j/k...via feedalizr
- Jim Kukral
Scoble's going to want a commision.. heh
- Mike Lewis
Happy to hear it. Friend Feed is 10x more stable than Twitter. At least this way you'll know we got your message ;)
- Jeremy Palmer
Great to have you here! Seesmic is stealing some of the Twitterdown thunder though....
- shanebe
welcome, chris!
- Jesse Stay
from fftogo
Twitter and FriendFeed have two very different conversation mechanisms. FriendFeed's isn't necessarily better, but it works.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
so where do you think Plork fits into all this Chris?
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Finally Mr. P joins the conversation!
- Robert Sanzalone
Plurk is not intuitive. I can't find my friends
- Francine Hardaway
from Alert Thingy
so where do you think Plurk fits into all this Chris?
- John Blanton
from twhirl
were happy
- Jeremiah Owyang
Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. Happy. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Happy are we?
- Aaron Myers
Hey look who FINALLY showed up to the FF party?!! about damn time! LOL :-) Srsly - welcome!!
- Susan Beebe
Scoble subscribed to everyone, but me. I'm not happy :)
- gmarketer
Scoble subscribed to me too. I'm happy now :)
- gmarketer
hey chris. just go with the friend feed flow buddy. twitter is on thin ice. you have broken your FF posting cherry. welcome aboard.
- Rodney Rumford
Welcome to the FriendFeed conversation, where real talk happens. Sounds cheesy, but it's true!
- Mike Reynolds
Welcome Chris!
- Mitchell Tsai
What a bedside welcome!
- Leif Hansen
from Alert Thingy
What took you so long?
- Fred Grott
Escaping the Scobleverse - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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you cant. as soon as your near the gates a scoble clone snipes you with a nerd nugget.
- Anthony
Need to run to work but I like this thought.. very similar to the RSS Reset plan Corvida, Caleb, Jeff and I are trying out this month.
- Phil G
J. Phil, definitely very similar, just a little less drastic! I'm not brave enough to handle the RSS Reset! @Anthony - nerd nugget. Gross! :)
- felix
Good thoughts on this on felix. I don't mind being in the scobleverse because he consistently brings good stuff. But I'm constantly looking out for the other universes that pop up. I don't subscribe to a lot of the other popular guys like Arrington, Bucheit, Taylor, etc. because their good stuff is bound to pop up one way or another.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I've actually unsubscribed from Arrington and Scoble, myself. Like Shey said, you don't have to follow the popular guys to catch the good stuff - it always pops up somewhere.
- Nathaniel Payne
Heh! I'm not saying it's bad to subscribe to those guys, they're big for a reason! But I'm trying to slow down my river of news a little bit so I can see some of the smaller waves. If you see what I mean! Anything big I'll get anyway via FoaF.
- felix
Just to define the Scobleverse, here's a good feed: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... -- this is the feed of everyone I'm reading who I've "liked" and/or "commented on." I am watching thousands of people, so touch quite a few people here. To get outside of the Scobleverse you'd really need to make sure you don't follow anyone I comment on.
- Robert Scoble
Trying to avoid Scoble is like trying to avoid air. He is everywhere! :)
- Mike Doeff
This is fascinating - and yes absolutely no offense intended for Scoble, et. al. I suggested this with tongue-in-cheek myself a little while back on FF (http://tinyurl.com/5uj5zn). I got spanked by some echo chamberlains - tho Scoble himself agreed.
- Noah Carter
I´d like to see the the definition of the new word: "to scobleize" in Wikipedia! xD
- Dieter Schwarz
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to leave the scobleverse, I'm just trying to make it easier to see some neighboring universes. :)
- felix
Felix: Find any intriguing non-Scoble universes yet?
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell - well... no, if you don't count the friendfeed universe. :) but I'm still optimistic!
- felix
I can't unsubscribe from anyone. I specifically deleted someone that I was following and it shows I'm still following them. Also, it's VERY HARD to unsubscribe someone if you are following thousands of people.
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Are you using their Facebook app? That could be interfering.
- Steve Rubel
Ahh, yes. I am using the Facebook app. Is that what is subscribing people automatically? I wondered about that, cause people were just showing up that I hadn't manually subscribed to.
- Robert Scoble
facebook + friendfeed = bad
- Tyler Gillies
Is there a way to unsubscribe from my friends' friends?
- Brandon Wood
Automatically? Without clicking? This must be a bug.
- Mohamed J
Cyvros/fyc: But how do I unhide if I change my mind?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Scoble the Facebook app auto adds contacts.
- Steve Rubel
Neil: scroll down to the bottom and click the link that refreshes to show hidden entries. You can then unhide from there.
- jcunwired
"unlike"
- Mitchell Tsai
@Cyvros: thanks that's exactly what I needed! Wish this feature was more visible, and after I'm done hiding, it jumps me back to the first page, argghhh!
- Brandon Wood
Joe Scarborough is a complete fucking putz asshole. He says Republicans love America but liberals don't. Fuck you.
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I avoid mainstream US network news and turn to CBC, Guardian, BBC...
- DaveDelaney.ME
I avoid tv news all together, and get my news here on friendfeed
- Kyle Weller
I avoid liberals because they hate America. ;D
- Ben Jackson
yikes. politics is so fucking harsh....
- Mary Anne Davis
That is harsh, and not true really. However many liberals I know love a version of America that is simply NOT America. They woudl make it a semy socialist nanny state ... and they don't know how to defend it. They DO love it. I just don't want them in charge of it :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
HOW I DON'T CARE!!!
- directeur
How do you really feel?
- Tim Bauer
If loving America (and patriotism) is putting your soldiers in the harm's way, then republicans do love America and they are very patriotic.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Its inherent to both philosophies - conservatives defend and protect what is, and liberals challenge and work to change it. Not to say that conservatives are incapable of innovation or that liberals never adhere to any sort of tradition - but as general world views - liberals are always going to appear as though they dislike what "is" because, by nature, they are more focssd on the things about what "is" that need to change. dsnt justify that kind of patriotic genralization - just contextualizes its causes
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
lol @Jason understand where you are coming from but you know that isn't the case
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
That line may worked in another time but today we don't stand for that crap from the media right who feel they have *authority.*
- Alex Williams
What do you want from a former Republican congressman? Trashing liberals is on his job description.
- Larry Kless
Apparently his cunning plan of pissing off liberals works great. This is Rush's whole reason for existence too.
- Phil G
What good does it do him to piss off liberals? Doesn't get him any more votes.
- Dave Winer
@Krishnan Subramanian I never understand that kind of comment. Isnt that the purpose of a military? They stand in harm's way so civilians don't get targeted?
- Christopher Dickens
Christopher, comments like that have always baffled me. When you sign up for the military, you know what you're getting yourself into. It's not like people sign up and then freak out and incredulously ask, 'What? You might I might have to FIGHT?' You don't go into the military to exercise your personal freedom and opinion. 'Well, I don't FEEL like fighting THIS war. I'll wait for the next one. Maybe that one will suit my personality better.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think the point is that most of us non-Americans have a hard time getting is why US soldiers end up on foreign soil so often often for reasons that don't seem to compute or are contradictory
- Deepak Singh
I enjoy screaming at the screen, throwing a rubber ball at certain faces and the ability to mute loudmouths. I get very few chances to express my basest, most obscenely in-your-face personality and I cut loose when I hold the remote. I find that totally cleanes me for a pleasant discussion on any subject with anyone. I don't have a mean word left in my mind.
- Phil Boiarski
Pathetic. The man obviously has nothing productive to say.
- Chris Nixon
David - Scarborough said that? Surprises me. He's a dork, and not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I never took him to be that outrageous and partisan.
- Anthony Citrano
Remember when Elvis shot his TV?
- Michelle Trent
fear & envy over love of country - a shameful comment from a fellow Floridian
- Scott Moskowitz
Can someone show me a clip of him saying that???
- Anthony Citrano
@Christopher Dickens Defending the country is different and falling into harms way to satisfy the childhood fantasies of a nutcase is different. It is a shame that some people still consider this war legitimate. Please no smartness!!
- Krishnan Subramanian
@Deepak, Amen.
- Krishnan Subramanian
leave ur email address so I can send u a google calendar email notifying y'all after election that u were wrong. go McCain!
- Noah David Simon
Dave - and by cunning I mean 'idiotic' or 'rabble-rousing'
- Phil G
I'm getting tired of rereading this epithet over and over as comments get added.
- Patrick Beard
from twhirl
Patrick -- then hide the entry. Problem solved.
- Phil G
Nice language
- Craig Eddy
@Krishnan Subramanian, I agree with you partially. We should be much more concerned with what the Chinese are doing. this 6-part series is a must read. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazin...
- Christopher Dickens
AMEN AMEN AMEN!! I like the extra spice of "putz", speaking as a jew...yeah, Scarborough is nothing more than a 3rd-rate Bill O'Reilly wannabe, plus he consistently demeans and patronizes Mika, a person who so far surpasses him in intelligence and depth of thinking that it's comical...and if I have to hear Joe bitch and whine and moan one more fucking time about how the "liberal elite...
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- anthony kortick
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