The best Twitter conference is looking like http://parnassusgroup.com/twitter... @biz @veronica @guykawasaki and many celebrities and developers are involved.
Where are the editors, journalists, researchers and musicians who made the #140conf extraordinary? I have no doubt that this will be an interesting event but I'm struck by the difference.
- Alex Howard
Alex: they are at 140conf. I'll be at both. They both are awesome for different reasons. If I only had one to attend, though, http://www.thetwitterconference.com was more useful for both developers and trust agents.
- Robert Scoble
Whoops! As usual, you handle a misguided quibble with grace, Robert. My mistake. Wish I could be at either; I look forward to participating virtually.
- Alex Howard
"celebrities and developers".... Ah huh...?
- Darren Pollard
Darren and some celebrity developers too. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert! Orli, appreciate for the nod regarding our bent toward inclusivity. Our event is intended to be less theoretical. An academic "investigation" of the possibilities or social consequences 'aint us. More about pragmatic realities. People have apps to ship dammit. :)
- Steve Broback
I've never heard of a conference *about* Twitter.
- Eric Florenzano
Soon there will be twitshare events, like timeshare sales presentations. you get a free hotel room, but you have to follow a spam bot :/
- sean percival
are all the keynotes 140 characters or less?
- Steven Hodson
140 | The Twitter Conference 2009 | Mountain View CA | 26/27 May | Parnassus Group | $249 - "On May 26th and 27th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, we’re bringing together the top gurus in the Twitosphere to discuss all things Twitter, from understanding the business value of Twitter to exploring the what makes a great Twitter app."
- Atul Arora
Why conferences? Can't they confer on Twitter?
- Amit Morson
Atul: that is one. I am speaking at that one. It is run by Steve Broback who used to be my boss back in 1999.
- Robert Scoble
There's a social media conference called Social Matters running in Brisbane, Australia, at the start of October. No details online for it yet though (and it's not in the next 4 months).
- Greg Lexiphanic
Robert - that is the one I may attend since it so close to home :-)
- Atul Arora
is it possible that the conferences could be even remotely differentiated. seems absurd there'd be more than one
- Spotcher
Jeff Pulver's 140 Character Conference: http://www.140conf.com/ June 16-17, NYC. $895. (You can buy a package of the O'Reilly Conference and the Pulver one together).
- Robert Scoble
http://www.thetwitterconference.com May 26th and May 27th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA (very near friendfeed's offices, funny enough). $249. Alex Payne from Twitter is speaking at this one (my favorite so far).
- Robert Scoble
@amit morsin Good point. Would allow others to contribute and tune in when wanted.
- Andrew Kealik
Which ones are you speaking at Robert?
- Paul Holmes
I'm trying to convince Broback to make TC140 a friendfeed, or at least, a real time one.
- Robert Scoble
Paul: as of this moment, I'm only speaking at http://www.thetwitterconference.com (which Steve Broback and team, er, Parnassus Group, runs). I am also talking to Jeff Pulver about speaking at his Twitter Conference.
- Robert Scoble
Is there that much to talk about there is an entire conference, or conferences I should say. Are they how to instructional?
- Jeff
Jeff: surprisingly I think there is, especially if you get geeky and show off how to use the API. Remember, when I first heard about blogging (I used to help plan conferences for programmers in late 1990s) I didn't think it was important enough to have conferences about it, but now there's blogging conferences just for women, so I obviously was wrong. I'd love to go to a session to learn how the Washington State Department of Transportation built its Twitter app so you can see how long border crossings take
- Robert Scoble
Spotcher: it's capitalism. Everyone thinks there's a potential audience (and there is) and goes after it at the same time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: good point I was not thinking about the tech api/ app stuff I was just thinking about the user uses like this is what a hashtag does. On a side note this is the first time to use friendfeed.
- Jeff
Jeff: welcome. Now import your stuff in here (I'm following you now). Put your Tweets, YouTubes, blogs, flickrs, and tons of other stuff (if you do it) in here so we can stalk you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I will work on it. It seems to be a very useful tool. Thanks for the follow, I look forward t more chats
- Jeff
i guess it's just the tyranny of choice. too many deodorant choices, too many twitter conferences.
- Spotcher
London's *first* Twitter conference ... http://media140.com ... discussing the intersection of microblogging and journalism ... has sold out! Contact @dailytwitter and @iboy for more info.
- George Nimeh
way too many. i think it's ridiculous. i've tweeted them all about it, but they don't care. the issue is: what is twitter culture and can people navigate the alternately small town and world wide nature of it? that's cultural and i don't think any of these conferences can really teach people this in one or two days. it's something you learn by doing, and interaction takes times. like two months.
- mary
and it's not like blogs where there were many platforms, many ways to find posts about you, embedded links that were confusing to the great unwashed. this is twitter: a silo, with 140 char and urls you can click through to. it's not that hard. the big issue is learning the culture.. and that for people who don't naturally get it, will mean doing twitter, not watching a panel talk about it.
- mary
as for the angle they all said they were going after: api's and developers? the twitter api is the easiest on the planet. it took us one hour the first time we used it, to read through the documentation and get the thing started. and two hours to finish. really.. you need a conference to help you with that? i don't imagine any real developer would pay to go to a conference that then told you how to do three hours work, in 8 hours of conference.
- mary
I'd say the angle they're going after is whichever forms the straightest line to your $$$. Reminds me of the rush to train people to use eBay.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken .. next up .. the Video Professor flogging a "Teach you everything about Twitter or your money back"
- Steven Hodson
@Steven: LOL and +17 for Video Professor mention!
- AJ Kohn
you guys are right.. it's extremely cynical.. doing conferences on twitter. but i guess the organizers feel that have to jump on the next bandwagon.
- mary
Mary: that's why I wish one of the conferences focused on the larger real-time-web trend. That way you could cover Facebook, friendfeed, SkyGrid, and others and how this space is evolving. But they don't listen to me either.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Rackspace should host one :-)
- Jesse Stay
That said, with the current size of Twitter I still don't get why entire conferences are being built around it. It's not big enough yet to have that narrow a focus. I understand Facebook, but not Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: it's because brands are on Twitter in a big way (Zappos makes all new employees post to Twitter). Conferences know that when companies do that they will probably pay to attend conferences about that tool. Translation: hype sells conference seats. That said, there are too many to be profitable.
- Robert Scoble
I just have to interject that our was announced weeks before any of the others, and it's being held first. As far as we knew, we were the only one in the works. The others can't make that claim. As you can guess, I am also confused by why the world needs five of them... http://www.thetwitterconference.com.
- Steve Broback
That being said, we think anything that drives the platform forward is a great thing for the community, so let a thousand flowers bloom!
- Steve Broback
Our event is an (inclusive) gathering of the clan. It's for organizations that want to share how they are tapping into the real-time Web via Twitter. We think the "business of Twitter" is a reasonable focus. I guess a DOS conference in 1982 might have seemed over the top too --"gee, it's so simple!" But a revolution was under way, and the revolutionaries like to get together sometimes...
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- Steve Broback
I think I'm going to start a Twitter conference tour service! Didn't know there was so many. Reminds me of what happened with blog conferences back in the day. A plethora of them! Does give rise to a question though. Why not many Facebook conferences? Or am I merely overlooking those?
- Paul Chaney
A gasoline tax will never get passed in this country. At least not in my lifetime. I wrote an editorial in college advocating such and it was -- by far -- the least popular thing I've ever written. You should have seen the hate mail. America is really screwed because of this kind of populist attitude, by the way. But I'd rather have democracy with all of its failings than the alternatives.
- Robert Scoble
One main problem is that gas taxes are regressive in nature. This is probably the only reason Obama is against it. Many have the attitude that (despite limited supply) a kidney transplant/heath care is a "right." I have the bizarre notion that government should provide for mobility of its people. We understood this in the 50's and 60's but no more. Now we have to be packed in like an ant-farm. Anyone remember when you could park?
- Steve Broback
"carbon-free?" is that an office carved out from a giant cube of pure titanium? I read the blog post, which didn't exactly explain how Thinkspace goes carbon-NEUTRAL. So I clicked on the company link for Thinkspace, which led me to their corporate blog. And the last post on the blog is basically an ad for a book authored by the guy (Steve Broback) who wrote the original blog post! Seems a bit like logrolling to me. And I never did find out how the hell they go carbon neutral.
- Karim
Stupid me -- that should have been "neutral" not, "free" duh. Fixed now.
- Steve Broback
Great post on ThinkSpace! I'm go back to Disney w/ Peter, glad this initative is doing well. Wish there was something like it here in SF- there's workspaces and green offices, but a combo?
- anna sauce